December 16, 2025 • 28 mins
Mike Gastineau joins the show to talk about his Hoosiers and their run to the Big 10 title. The Mariners have a new backup catcher, or do they...update on the poll.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
You use all the clue purpose by movie. Anybody, come on,
hit me, hit me with it. Come on, come on,
say it. Come on, there you go. You're doubting yourself
for a second. Weren't you just for a little bit?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
What we got cracking tonight against Colorado? Boys are one
seven to one their last nine games. That's not good.
And by the way, if you're looking to join the
Nashville Predators, all you have to be is a multi
time national championship college football winning head coach and a
multi gazillionaire. And that's Nick Saban, who is now a
member of the Predators ownership group.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
You what Jordan Majeva did today USC, he sat down
and signed a commitment.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
He announced he's re signing Yes, USC.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I don't think I've ever seen a current player, yes,
sit down and re sign with a school.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I think U see actually tweeted out yesterday they're signing
three new guys, three players to new contracts at the Trojans.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, it's so where we're living now, Pal, you better
get used to it.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Dicky DeVante Adams not practicing today with a hamstring injury.
Sean McVay says they'll wait until game time to make
a call on his availability for Thursday nights game. And
Jonah Coleman, who looked pretty spry in the La Bowl,
has accepted an invitation to the Senior Bowl. And one
more not UDB Soccer winning the National Championship last night,
first time ever in program history, three to two, the
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golden goal in overtime from Harrison Bert tost Their head
coach Jamie Clark would join us, by the way at
five pm, two nights, Mendoza.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Fay, So what next up?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Indiana?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Big play here third and six at the twenty four Mendoza.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Charley Day.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Twenty years few tones.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Day, the launch Becker's release against Jermaine Matthews.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
He gets outside and then.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
He is able to put him right on his back
hip and the ball is out in run.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'd like to say that was Gus Johnson from the
Indiana Ohios Day again, but I couldn't understand the freaking
word he said, I got no idea, And I think
that's exactly by the way with the gas man probably
sounded like two on that third down play with.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
He was there, man, He was there for the biggest
win in Indiana football history.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And his reward for making the trip is not the
Hoosiers winning the Big Ten.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
It's not the it's coming on this radio show to
say hello, you.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Know you hang around long enough, can all your dreams come?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I mean, can you imagine a Big Ten title and
getting to come on KJR and talk to your fellas
in your old time slot. Well, dude, first of all,
congratulations man number one, thrilled for you, Number two and
number three.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Honestly put this into words.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
How absurd is this thirty five thirty one loss to
Purdue with the end of the twenty twenty three season.
If I would have found you that night and said, Mike,
it's all right, You're gonna go twenty four and two,
you're gonna have a Heisman Trophy winner, and you're gonna
start the CFP in two years number one in America.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Your response is what.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I would have wanted to know. How much you'd have
to drink. You know, there's no way, there's just no
way you could see this coming. And I hate this
right out of the box, but I've got to correct
something you said. I heard you for said, we're gonna
have Mike come on and talk about the resurgence of INDIANAFA.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Right, it's the surgeons. Yes, you don't have.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
To use any qualifiers at all when you talk about
this story. You know, up until three weeks ago, Indiana
historically had lost more football games than any school in
the country. But they're the losingest team. All it took
us to get us to be the second losing team
was to win twenty four out of twenty six. That's
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how bad we've been over the years. You know, they've
they've been They've been decent for little pockets of time.
So I would have believed that, you know, maybe, I
mean just a few years ago they had back to
back in the Year's Day Bowl games. They were you know,
look like Tom Allen was getting them going and then
that didn't work. Uh, you know, had a young offensive
coordinator named talem To Boor that really really kind of
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set the world on fire with Mike Tennis. They had
a little some stuff going from but sustainia has always
been the issue. And then to think you'd come in
and win the big ten to think for kurtsive Menty
to come in and say, and he wasn't going to
say this obviously, but if he could go seven and five,
everybody would have been like, that's pretty good start, right,
And that's what he said. He was battling when he
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got there. They just win seven games and we'll be happy.
And you know, as you can see from his personality,
that wouldn't work. So no qualifiers necessary. It's the most
amazing thing I've ever seen. The only story that I
have any knowledge of that compares to as the ninety
five Maritors who were you know, dead in the water
on August first and then end up, you know, one
game away from playing for the World Series. Just a
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miracle run that no one saw coming. Yeah, that's what
this That's the only story in my life that this
equates to my thing.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Well, I would I would challenge you on the resurgence thing. Man,
you were nine to two in nineteen sixty seven under
John Pont and went to the Rose Bull.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Okay, so this is the resurgence. Well check this out.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I'm back home last week in the game, and I
went and visited my af Carolyn, who's ninety two and
in great health, and he was talking about as a
little girl, she remember going to see Beau McMillan's teams playing.
Now I know both of you guys know Beaul McMillan
is the only man in history to coach in Indiana
for more than like three seasons and leave with a
winning record.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Wow, Mike, one coach in.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
History left that school with a winning right. And I
was saying that he's gonna do it. But and that's
World War two we're talking, is when Paul McMillan did this.
So it's it's historic, it's epic, and it's it's the
neatest thing ever because there's no cynicism yet, there's none
of the fan corruption and the people complaining about everybody's
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just like it's like sixty thousand kids sitting around the
tree on Christmas morning, no one can believe how cool
it is. And you know, some of that stuff will
creep in if they keep having success, the cynicism and
the demands and the expectations. But right now it's just
a it's a story, just full of great feeling. And
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I don't you pay attention to the news. That feels
like we could use the stories with great feeling right
now in the sports business and of all things in
college football when there's so much crazy stuff going on,
and during this time, India climbs that was oper the heap.
It's incredible.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Well, and it really started last year Gas. I mean
some people might forget you guys are a top ten
football team at the end of the end of the
season last year, and then you brought this kid in
from Cal to play quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Who really?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I mean, he had okay numbers his first two years
at Cal, but who would have imagined.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
So what were your.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Expectations going into this season knowing you had a new
quarterback coming in and you know they only ranked at
twentieth to begin the year, and even though you finished
in the top ten last season.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, no, it's a great question, Dick, because we could
have done this interview a year ago. They're a bigger
deal now. But I mean, if they were great last
year and they had done stuff last year that you
never would have thought Indiana could do, and then they
get popped in the mouth pretty good by Alile State
and popped in the mouth pretty good bye. But at
the end of the year, everybody's hey, this is great.
Well on the way. My expectations of this year. I
looked at the schedule and I thought, you know what,
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it's gonna be tough to win at Oregon, It's gonna
be tough to win at Iowa, it's gonna be tough
to win at Penn State, and Illinois will be tough.
I was they had four tough games. You know they'll
go two and two in those. Maybe they end up
ten and two on the year, Maybe they sneak into
the playoffs, maybe they just go to a good bowl game.
That was my expectation. I'll be honest, I did not
see when I first started thinking this kind of year
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could happen. Is when they pulverized Illinois even like sixty
three to ten, Because Illinois came in pretty good at
Inanda just decimated him that night. Man never let them
think they were in the game for a second, and
after that they had to go to Iowa. They won
a tough game in Iowa. And after that, I'm like,
you know what, they can win at Oregon. I didn't
necessarily think they would, but when they went in Orion,
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I'm like, I'm not, this is not a game. I
think that they're definitely gonna lose either. And they just
kept rolling then and men, dooza, what a great example
of what we all know, and sometimes that's to get
stuck in our face. Coaching really matters. And this is
not to say that Willcox and his staff weren't good coaches,
but they get But those are Indiana. So man, he's
had the same coordinator offensive defensive for like several seasons now,
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going back to the DNE base, they were within forever.
They're all on the same page, and I think they
really took this this natural talent, run a lot of ability,
and just coached it to an incredible season. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Well, my guest to know, obviously, as our guest, he's
all just hopped up on Indiana.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Who's your hysteria?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Man?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Just living the dream? No, not at all, I did.
I mean, I told you just a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
If you would have told me two years ago that
one of our favorite college football teams would go thirteen
to oh twice over a three year period and have
a Heisman winner, I would have thought it was you,
dub not Indiana, and Indiana's pulled it off.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
But how does this Mike? Honestly?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Because look, man, I know you grew up a big
fan of Who's Your Basketball? They haven't won a championship
what almost forty years now. I think eighty seven was
the last one, so it's been a long time. A
lot of people don't remember that team in eighty seven.
How does this compare on campus around Bloomington you think
to the basketball success if it ever happens again.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I'm kind of taking it adlotally because I've been back
a few times. I'm not Himlet's spend a lot of
time on campus. I talk to a lot of friends
and fans from back to I think this is bigger,
just because again, the arena is bigger. You know, you're
talking about sixty thousand people. It's not a huge football stiga,
but you're not about sixty thousand people as opposed to
seventeen thousand of the basketball game, And you're right, you know,
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it's been very disappointing for Indiana that your basketball hasn't
really done much for a lot of years now. And
again some of that, you know, the success was probably
taken for granted for a long time, and you know,
you saw what happened. You know, forget these circumstances. Why
but a guy like Bob Knight cut such a wide
pass as you walk through a situation when he left,
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it was impossible to you know, how do you replace that?
How do you find somebody who's that's taken him a
long time and they're still looking to I think this
is bigger just because you know, football is bigger than basketball.
It's a bigger deal. But I saw him win three
national championships, and I gotta tell you, the state's electric
when that's going on. But this is just more sinse.
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It's such a surprise, and it's a little recency bias
t you know, it's it's easy to say this is
bigger because it's like it's like you're a little kid
and you come down and and under the Christmas tree
is a playboy.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Bunny and alive.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Way, really, I'm getting this for Christmas? You know, it's
not surprising. You knock me over with a feathers is
kind of how.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I feel about Well, I guess that just begs the question, then,
would you rather have a national championship or a Playboy Bunny?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You can't have both, Mike got to pick one.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I'm sixty five National Championship. I got more use for that,
to be honest. And it's but just the idea that
you know, I'm gonna go to the Rose excuse me,
the Rose Bull a couple of weeks and see them play.
And I remember saying on my show years ago when
when the ben ten had in Penn State and then
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added Nebraska, I'm like, we Indiana's never going to the
Rose Bowl. We're never going to be better than Las State, Michigan,
Nebraska all in the same scene. And that's just never happening.
And then you know, there's not even the automatic connection anymore. So,
just the serendipity of the year Indiana has this year
that the number one seed gets fed into the Rose Bowl,
and you know place we haven't been since nineteen sixty eight.
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LBJ was president last time Rose Bull and the last
undeting season we had was World War Two was still
going on. So it's it's been a while since they've
been this good.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
The gas man joining us, Mike, let's talk about the why.
I mean, it's it seems a little more than coincidental
that this is happening during the NIL air and you
got a really rich donor in Mark Cuban. So how
much of it is that? How much of it is
just coaching? What is the why behind this?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I don't know a lot of them behind the scenes stuff,
but it appears to me, I would appear to everybody obviously, Yeah, Cuban,
They've got a lot of other rich alums. I think
what they did was and I would assume Cuban was
a part of this. They hit the ground running with NIL.
They anticipated it, you know, they saw what was coming
and got their ducks in a row and got things
ready to go. But I think as much of that
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it's you know, whether it was luck, whether he was
the first choice or whenever. I think getting Signetti to
come in, and the tact he decided to take where
he said, I'm just I'm not going to be satisfied
with just going to a bowl game. And you look
at him, you know, the whole google me I win
thing is one hundred percent true. He's had one year
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where he almost didn't have a winning record. He was
six and five one year at elve. Other than that
his his season. You look at his career ten wins,
eleven wins, twelve, nine wins, tens, again and again and again,
the guy just wins. I think they found and there
are more teams looking for guys like this, these guys
that want to go out and make these bazillion dollar highers,
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for guys that are kind of retreats as opposed to
finding a hungry coach who's been at the next level.
Batn has won everywhere he's gone. Yeah, no guarantees, obviously,
but I think a lot of it just comes back
to the y, comes back to coaching, and you know,
he was the I don't know ifk it was the first,
but to bring twelve of his players from James Madison,
you know, you have an ingrained culture. Now your guys
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in the locker room believe in you, and they can
get other guys to believe in you. So there was
a little bit of that too.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Well, Gus, before you go, we talked about the absurdity
of all of this number one team in the country,
Heisman Trophy winner, the whole thing. But I don't think
the story needs to stop there. I mean, you could
very well win the whole damn thing and claim the
national championship. And this is the this is the crazy
part that if this was the old days, you'd have
to win two more games to win the national Championship.
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If it was the old old days, you'd be twelve
and oho and have to win one more game before
you f out if the voter is voting number one.
So now you've got to go through Alabama or Oklahoma,
Oregon or Texas Tech and the Peach Bawl get by
maybe Ohio State again. What's your what's your gut feel
on how far this run goes?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Man it again is you know, I don't believe I'm
saying this, but I think they can do it now.
It's thinking they can do it and doing it. They
They've got, Like any team at this point in time,
you've got a rough road. You know you're gonna face
three really good teams. If the seating holds, they'd have
to play Oklahoma win that they got to go beat
Oregon for the second time this season. I think Oregan's
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and then if if the seating holds in, you're right,
Ohio State, you gotta beat them for a second time.
It's it's a it's it's a daunting task, but right
there in the fights hung it says we're never daunted,
So never donted. Man. I think they can do it.
I really, I really do. And one are the time
I want to go and join New Year's Day at
the Rose Bowl. You guys know what that's like. If
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I'd have been since the Tuiasa Soco games, I was
a throat was when was when Washington Purdue, and I'm
looking forward to getting back there again and getting to
see something I never thought i'd see.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Well, I gotta tell you, Dick agrees with this. I
know Andrews does too. Man, we got two favorite college
football teams, the Huskies and whoever the hell's playing Oregon. Man,
So if you play those guys again, take care, go
get the man, Go knock those bastards back to Eugene, Oregon.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Palce.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So hey, listen, enjoy this. This is one of the
really cool things about this too, is that now you
get to have the entire month of December almost to
soak this up and really have some fun and enjoy this.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
That's what I love about this.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, it is again kind of a new feeling for me.
I'll point out though, as you will though, Indiana's aren't
eating against Oregon this century.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
That's right, baby, that's right, love, and we're.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Two for two ducks fans. So yeah, okay, we'll seem
in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Go get him, man, Hey, have fun with this, enjoy
and we'll talk soon, buddy.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
All right, great to talk to both of you, extra
having me on.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
All right, the gas man, I mean he mentioned sixty
five years old. The guy's been waiting those whole life
for this.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You know what this is like, By the way, this
is like you and me waiting until we're sixty five
to go to the World Series.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
That's what this is. The sixth wetting close tonight.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
We are thirteen years away from being in the exact
position that Mike is in with Indiana. We're gonna break
Seahawks rams. We're gonna talk about it next, all right.
Color number ten right now, two eight six, ninety five,
ninety five, eight hundred and eighty two nine or nine
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five zero wins a pair of seats for the December
twenty ninth game against the Vancouver Canucks.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Cracking tonight back on the ice.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Against the Colorado Avalanche, six thirty pre game seven o'clock
face off right here on ninety three three KJRFM. Big
thanks to Mike Castao for jumping on the air with
us and saying hello, proving that yes, he still has
time for the little people in his old time slot
of three to seven here on KJR.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Well, we're his little twerps that he used to just
have to put up with.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Hey, man, trust me, I got stories, all right. I
was beaten down by that man. It's a miracle I'm
still here in this business. But no, Mike is heading
to the Rose Bowl in a couple weeks within the end,
and thrilled for him. Man, that's great, you know, waiting
that long to see something like that happen for your team.
I mean, I'm telling you, it's exactly where we might
be in thirteen years from now, when you and I
are sixty five and the Mariners haven't made the World Series,
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and you set off the air, you think this current iteration,
this current version of Mariner baseball would eventually make the
World Series. But we all thought that ninety five I said,
I hope, I said, I would hope that this current
iteration would make it at least once.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Well, I mean, how about this.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
If I would have told you after Game six against
the Indians in ninety five and after Game five against
the Yankees in two thousand and one, they're not making
the World Series, you're gonna be waiting when you're fifty
two years old, you would have thought both times, there's
no way that's going to happen, right right with that
ninety five team that had that great core, that two
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thousand and one team that won one hundred and sixteen
games and won ninety three games in back to back years.
I mean, it's ludicrous how long this fan base has
been waiting for this, and.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Hey, today maybe the missing piece.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Uh Andrew Kisner has been signed, yeah baby, to a
one year contract. His nickname is World Series. By the way,
all right, Andrew Kisner is locked in? Is this the
end of the Mitch Garver era? Is it over?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Say goodbye? Probably?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
So are we sure? Are you gonna use Mitch Garver?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Well, they just gave this guy a one year contract.
They can cut him tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
What that one million dollars doesn't necessarily even mean he's
the best.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, I mean, remember they traded for Blake Hunt last year. Now,
Blake Khant was not a major league catcher. He was
an oriole You do remember that they made the trade
for Blake Khant. He was not the same player as Kisner.
I get that because Kisner is a major leaguer. But
I don't think this. I'm not saying that they're gonna
bring Garver back, Dick at all. I'm just saying I
don't think that the acquisition of Andrew kisne or should
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keep them from doing anything they want to do at catcher.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
If they feel like there's a better option that pops
up down the road, then they should go do it.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
I just don't know why you'd want to bring back
a guy who his goal was to walk. His goal
wasn't actually to get a base hit. His goal was
to get himself on base.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Because getting on base matters, that's.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Right, Never and moneyball, Yeah, yes, what because he gets
on base? Because he gets on base. There you go,
don't make me point at you, Dick.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
The guy had.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah, now he had one big He had one big
hit in a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Against Detroit. I was there.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Well, let me ask you a question. Honestly, I know
we were going to talk Seahawks here, but this is
how we roll. Let me ask you a question. Yes,
if Mitch Garver last season was making a million dollars,
do you think people could have stomached him a little more?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
He was making twelve million bucks last year, and if
he's making three months, let me tell you that was
the problem, right, because what the hell do we honestly
expect from a backup catcher?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Nothing? Well, have you seen Kisner's numbers?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Can he give you a zero point zero war? Have
you seen I can give you a zero point zero war?
It is better than Mitch Garter. Ever, each of the
last two seasons.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
We're talking about negative point one versus zero point zero.
I mean, what Mitch Garver does for the pitching staff,
for example, is that worth having him on the roster
for e milliam bucks? I think, and I get the
sense that the majority of the Mitch Garver angst is
because of the fact he was making twelve million dollars
last year and he was brought in to be like
the D eight, right, right? It was just not his fault, No,
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that's a that's a roster flaw from Jerry to Poto
and Justin Hollander obviously. So how about we stop asking
guys to do things they can't do.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
How's that for an idea? Right?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
How about we actually go out this offseason and we
haven't even talked about Polanco taken off. That happened when
I was gone last week. Twenty million bucks a year.
You and I both know there was no shot the
Mariners were doing that, or should there none any chance
they were doing that, But now you need a second basement.
I mean, look, you've got you've got holes, and you've
got some players in house, like Williamson Cole Young for example,
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that could fill some of these holes. But I don't
want to have all young guys fill in these holes.
I'd like to go out and sign some proven options
over the offseason. But you've got a hole in second,
you got a hole at third. I think you have
a hole in right that needs to be addressed, by
the way, and now you have a hole at DH
that needs to be addressed. So are we going to
fill all of those holes with the young guys from
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the minor league system? I really hope now that they're
going to fill two of them with them. Yeah, but
that's not for Williamson and young No, you can't fight.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
I don't want to fill any more than those two
with young guys.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
The grades they they they cannot just sit back and
say we're going to rely on unproven options, not at
this time in their history, not Andrews with this pitching.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
So yeah, I just don't think that they think they
have a hole at right field. To be completely honest,
I agree with you. I think that could be addressed.
I could even throw in shortstop, sure in that situation.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Jp Crawford as a guy, we talk about a guy
who's literal job like trying to walk. How about a
guy that just for whatever reason, is not good defensively
at the most important position on the field. Defensively in shortstop,
cannot hit, cannot run.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
He brings you no value besides just what he's done.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
In the last time. How much can Williamson help him
though defensively be.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
A little bit to him, A little bit, I'd say,
But like, that's asking a six hundred oh ps guy
to come and save a guy who barely can play
shortstop anymore and already is not great off it.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
It's just too many what if situations.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I just think, if you're gonna go with Ben Williams
in a third base, you better damn well go find
me a couple of bats.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yes for that one. Absolutely, that is.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Going to be on paper right now, and it could
change in May or June. I'll get it it easy out.
That is an easy out right now for your you're
playing with eight guys in your lineup, if Ben Williamson
is your starting third basement. Hey, would you like an
update on the poll. I'm not surprised at all, by
the way, by these results. Well, we threw it out
there today. If I guaranteed you a Seahawk appearance in
(24:05):
the NFC Championship Game, but.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
They lose, do you take it?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Thousand votes, seventy four percent say no, I want a
Super Bowl. Twenty six percent said yes. That'd be a
great turnaround from where this franchise was a couple of
years ago when they fired Pete Carroll. Go dogs on Twitter,
Hell and O. Especially if we get the number one seed,
that would be winning one home game and then losing
a home game the next week. Sea Dog Bob. If
(24:32):
I said you Dub would make the playoff next year,
but lose in the first round, do you take it
the roller Let's cross the bridge you built first. The
bridge hasn't been crossed in a decade. G Brot on Twitter.
Absolutely not since the end of Super Bowl forty nine.
All I can think about is getting back in winning.
So I'm not surprised by this, and I would also
(24:53):
vote no. I would not a dog that answered the question,
I would not take that.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
What does it have to what does it have to
do with the Huskies making the Well, the first round
of the playoffs is not like the NFC championship game.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
The National semi final is like the NFC championship game.
The first round of the playoffs would be like a
wild card again getting in exactly, so.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
It's not even close to the same.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
If the Seahawks were one of the rank and file
teams that were fighting to get into the playoffs, I
would totally accept it. Usually I'm the type of guy that, yeah,
you take double Bogie out of play, just let me
out a good playoff rates.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
That's not what the Seahawks team is. True.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
They are, in my opinion, a top two team in
the NFL, So why would I accept the loss in
the NFC Championship.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Let me if I'm with you, what do you be
for Vegas? Vegas? Vegas?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Think me that at worst, they're the third best team
in the NFL. At worst, I mean, you go to
all the sports books and I'm looking at what is
his draft Kings. I got the Rams number one, Hawks
number two, Denver number three, followed by Buffalo Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I mean yeah, I mean the worst you can find
is the Hawks at number three.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
So Dick, let me ask you this the biggest thing
for me, Zicher If you I think the Seahawks are
one of the two best teams, But how likely do
you think the Seahawks? Like, what's the chance that Seahawks
could get bounced in the first or second round?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
What happened you? I will answer this that question when
you answer this question. Yeah, who wins Thursday?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Like they could lose.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
See that's the point, the point of ask you this
on That's why I'm asking now, Yes, because it's chicken
crap to wait until Friday.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I mean, if we lose.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Friday, then right of course, that's why I'm not asking Friday.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I'm asking right freaking now. Well, I guess that tells you.
I guess that tells you. I think's gonna win on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Then, but you can't be shocked if they lose, right,
I mean fifty point two. I guarantee you an NFC
championship appearance right now, and that game.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Could be at home. You never know who could be
at home. I mean, guys, looks I got I got
news for you.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
At some point in time, the Seahawks are going to
play a conference title game at home and lose. That
will eventually happen. They probably should have lost in twenty fourteen.
They were down nineteen to six. For God's it's gonna happen.
So I get it for people that say yes, I
would take it, because I think they're looking at the
context of where this team was when Mike McDonald took over,
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and what a run by John. What a statement by
John Schneider that would be it'd be even bigger to
make a Super Bowl. I get it, But don't you
think that would be one of John Schneider's greatest accomplishments
as the general manager of the Seahawks To say goodbye
to Gino Smith at the exact right time, to say
goodbye to Pete Carroll at the exact right time to
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hire a thirty five year old coach, go get Sam
Darnold and free agency, have the draft that they've had,
and then.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Two years later playing the NFC championship game. Eh, unbelievable, crazy, unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
And I look at this NFC, I mean, when when
have we ever had five, six and seven seeds that
were as good as the Seahawks, Packers and Niners.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Probably twenty thirteen and fourteen.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
And that's when I take the NFC Tampionship Gang.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
But there's a world where you lose on Thursday and
then go play at Lambeau in the division right right,
and I would not feel great about that game.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I'll tell you what it is. I think I know
what it is about Anders. He's just a big sissy.
He's just I really am. The Niners in twenty thirteen
were the five seed at twelve and four, the Saints
for the sixth seed at eleven and five in two
thousand and thirte that's pretty.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Good safety, but he kind of gave us a decent game.
Pretty good.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
All right, we're gonna break text Amonials coming up next,
and then Jamie Clark from the National Championship UW men's
soccer team.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
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Speaker 2 (28:32):
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Speaker 3 (00:11):
Man.
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Pitch freaking blackoutside, Dude, four o'clock. I cannot see a
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Choose chill baby.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
You use all the clue purpose by movie. Anybody, come on,
hit me, hit me with it. Come on, come on,
say it. Come on, there you go. You're doubting yourself
for a second. Weren't you just for a little bit?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
What we got cracking tonight against Colorado? Boys are one
seven to one their last nine games. That's not good.
And by the way, if you're looking to join the
Nashville Predators, all you have to be is a multi
time national championship college football winning head coach and a
multi gazillionaire. And that's Nick Saban, who is now a
member of the Predators ownership group.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
How about that?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
You what Jordan Majeva did today USC, he sat down
and signed a commitment.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
He announced he's re signing Yes, USC.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
I don't think I've ever seen a current player, yes,
sit down and re sign with a school.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I think U see actually tweeted out yesterday they're signing
three new guys, three players to new contracts at the Trojans.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, it's so where we're living now, Pal, you better
get used to it.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Dicky DeVante Adams not practicing today with a hamstring injury.
Sean McVay says they'll wait until game time to make
a call on his availability for Thursday nights game. And
Jonah Coleman, who looked pretty spry in the La Bowl,
has accepted an invitation to the Senior Bowl. And one
more not UDB Soccer winning the National Championship last night,
first time ever in program history, three to two, the
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golden goal in overtime from Harrison Bert tost Their head
coach Jamie Clark would join us, by the way at
five pm, two nights, Mendoza.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Fay, So what next up?
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Indiana?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Big play here third and six at the twenty four Mendoza.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Charley Day.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Twenty years few tones.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Day, the launch Becker's release against Jermaine Matthews.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
He gets outside and then.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
He is able to put him right on his back
hip and the ball is out in run.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I'd like to say that was Gus Johnson from the
Indiana Ohios Day again, but I couldn't understand the freaking
word he said, I got no idea, And I think
that's exactly by the way with the gas man probably
sounded like two on that third down play with.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
He was there, man, He was there for the biggest
win in Indiana football history.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And his reward for making the trip is not the
Hoosiers winning the Big Ten.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
It's not the it's coming on this radio show to
say hello, you.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Know you hang around long enough, can all your dreams come?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I mean, can you imagine a Big Ten title and
getting to come on KJR and talk to your fellas
in your old time slot. Well, dude, first of all,
congratulations man number one, thrilled for you, Number two and
number three.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Honestly put this into words.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
How absurd is this thirty five thirty one loss to
Purdue with the end of the twenty twenty three season.
If I would have found you that night and said, Mike,
it's all right, You're gonna go twenty four and two,
you're gonna have a Heisman Trophy winner, and you're gonna
start the CFP in two years number one in America.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Your response is what.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I would have wanted to know. How much you'd have
to drink. You know, there's no way, there's just no
way you could see this coming. And I hate this
right out of the box, but I've got to correct
something you said. I heard you for said, we're gonna
have Mike come on and talk about the resurgence of INDIANAFA.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Right, it's the surgeons. Yes, you don't have.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
To use any qualifiers at all when you talk about
this story. You know, up until three weeks ago, Indiana
historically had lost more football games than any school in
the country. But they're the losingest team. All it took
us to get us to be the second losing team
was to win twenty four out of twenty six. That's
(04:31):
how bad we've been over the years. You know, they've
they've been They've been decent for little pockets of time.
So I would have believed that, you know, maybe, I
mean just a few years ago they had back to
back in the Year's Day Bowl games. They were you know,
look like Tom Allen was getting them going and then
that didn't work. Uh, you know, had a young offensive
coordinator named talem To Boor that really really kind of
(04:53):
set the world on fire with Mike Tennis. They had
a little some stuff going from but sustainia has always
been the issue. And then to think you'd come in
and win the big ten to think for kurtsive Menty
to come in and say, and he wasn't going to
say this obviously, but if he could go seven and five,
everybody would have been like, that's pretty good start, right,
And that's what he said. He was battling when he
(05:13):
got there. They just win seven games and we'll be happy.
And you know, as you can see from his personality,
that wouldn't work. So no qualifiers necessary. It's the most
amazing thing I've ever seen. The only story that I
have any knowledge of that compares to as the ninety
five Maritors who were you know, dead in the water
on August first and then end up, you know, one
game away from playing for the World Series. Just a
(05:35):
miracle run that no one saw coming. Yeah, that's what
this That's the only story in my life that this
equates to my thing.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Well, I would I would challenge you on the resurgence thing. Man,
you were nine to two in nineteen sixty seven under
John Pont and went to the Rose Bull.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Okay, so this is the resurgence. Well check this out.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
I'm back home last week in the game, and I
went and visited my af Carolyn, who's ninety two and
in great health, and he was talking about as a
little girl, she remember going to see Beau McMillan's teams playing.
Now I know both of you guys know Beaul McMillan
is the only man in history to coach in Indiana
for more than like three seasons and leave with a
winning record.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Wow, Mike, one coach in.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
History left that school with a winning right. And I
was saying that he's gonna do it. But and that's
World War two we're talking, is when Paul McMillan did this.
So it's it's historic, it's epic, and it's it's the
neatest thing ever because there's no cynicism yet, there's none
of the fan corruption and the people complaining about everybody's
(06:38):
just like it's like sixty thousand kids sitting around the
tree on Christmas morning, no one can believe how cool
it is. And you know, some of that stuff will
creep in if they keep having success, the cynicism and
the demands and the expectations. But right now it's just
a it's a story, just full of great feeling. And
(06:59):
I don't you pay attention to the news. That feels
like we could use the stories with great feeling right
now in the sports business and of all things in
college football when there's so much crazy stuff going on,
and during this time, India climbs that was oper the heap.
It's incredible.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Well, and it really started last year Gas. I mean
some people might forget you guys are a top ten
football team at the end of the end of the
season last year, and then you brought this kid in
from Cal to play quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Who really?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I mean, he had okay numbers his first two years
at Cal, but who would have imagined.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
So what were your.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Expectations going into this season knowing you had a new
quarterback coming in and you know they only ranked at
twentieth to begin the year, and even though you finished
in the top ten last season.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, no, it's a great question, Dick, because we could
have done this interview a year ago. They're a bigger
deal now. But I mean, if they were great last
year and they had done stuff last year that you
never would have thought Indiana could do, and then they
get popped in the mouth pretty good by Alile State
and popped in the mouth pretty good bye. But at
the end of the year, everybody's hey, this is great.
Well on the way. My expectations of this year. I
looked at the schedule and I thought, you know what,
(08:05):
it's gonna be tough to win at Oregon, It's gonna
be tough to win at Iowa, it's gonna be tough
to win at Penn State, and Illinois will be tough.
I was they had four tough games. You know they'll
go two and two in those. Maybe they end up
ten and two on the year, Maybe they sneak into
the playoffs, maybe they just go to a good bowl game.
That was my expectation. I'll be honest, I did not
see when I first started thinking this kind of year
(08:28):
could happen. Is when they pulverized Illinois even like sixty
three to ten, Because Illinois came in pretty good at
Inanda just decimated him that night. Man never let them
think they were in the game for a second, and
after that they had to go to Iowa. They won
a tough game in Iowa. And after that, I'm like,
you know what, they can win at Oregon. I didn't
necessarily think they would, but when they went in Orion,
(08:51):
I'm like, I'm not, this is not a game. I
think that they're definitely gonna lose either. And they just
kept rolling then and men, dooza, what a great example
of what we all know, and sometimes that's to get
stuck in our face. Coaching really matters. And this is
not to say that Willcox and his staff weren't good coaches,
but they get But those are Indiana. So man, he's
had the same coordinator offensive defensive for like several seasons now,
(09:14):
going back to the DNE base, they were within forever.
They're all on the same page, and I think they
really took this this natural talent, run a lot of ability,
and just coached it to an incredible season. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Well, my guest to know, obviously, as our guest, he's
all just hopped up on Indiana.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Who's your hysteria?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Man?
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Just living the dream? No, not at all, I did.
I mean, I told you just a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
If you would have told me two years ago that
one of our favorite college football teams would go thirteen
to oh twice over a three year period and have
a Heisman winner, I would have thought it was you,
dub not Indiana, and Indiana's pulled it off.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
But how does this Mike? Honestly?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Because look, man, I know you grew up a big
fan of Who's Your Basketball? They haven't won a championship
what almost forty years now. I think eighty seven was
the last one, so it's been a long time. A
lot of people don't remember that team in eighty seven.
How does this compare on campus around Bloomington you think
to the basketball success if it ever happens again.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
I'm kind of taking it adlotally because I've been back
a few times. I'm not Himlet's spend a lot of
time on campus. I talk to a lot of friends
and fans from back to I think this is bigger,
just because again, the arena is bigger. You know, you're
talking about sixty thousand people. It's not a huge football stiga,
but you're not about sixty thousand people as opposed to
seventeen thousand of the basketball game, And you're right, you know,
(10:37):
it's been very disappointing for Indiana that your basketball hasn't
really done much for a lot of years now. And
again some of that, you know, the success was probably
taken for granted for a long time, and you know,
you saw what happened. You know, forget these circumstances. Why
but a guy like Bob Knight cut such a wide
pass as you walk through a situation when he left,
(11:00):
it was impossible to you know, how do you replace that?
How do you find somebody who's that's taken him a
long time and they're still looking to I think this
is bigger just because you know, football is bigger than basketball.
It's a bigger deal. But I saw him win three
national championships, and I gotta tell you, the state's electric
when that's going on. But this is just more sinse.
(11:22):
It's such a surprise, and it's a little recency bias
t you know, it's it's easy to say this is
bigger because it's like it's like you're a little kid
and you come down and and under the Christmas tree
is a playboy.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Bunny and alive.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Way, really, I'm getting this for Christmas? You know, it's
not surprising. You knock me over with a feathers is
kind of how.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I feel about Well, I guess that just begs the question, then,
would you rather have a national championship or a Playboy Bunny?
Speaker 1 (11:49):
You can't have both, Mike got to pick one.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
I'm sixty five National Championship. I got more use for that,
to be honest. And it's but just the idea that
you know, I'm gonna go to the Rose excuse me,
the Rose Bull a couple of weeks and see them play.
And I remember saying on my show years ago when
when the ben ten had in Penn State and then
(12:13):
added Nebraska, I'm like, we Indiana's never going to the
Rose Bowl. We're never going to be better than Las State, Michigan,
Nebraska all in the same scene. And that's just never happening.
And then you know, there's not even the automatic connection anymore. So,
just the serendipity of the year Indiana has this year
that the number one seed gets fed into the Rose Bowl,
and you know place we haven't been since nineteen sixty eight.
(12:34):
LBJ was president last time Rose Bull and the last
undeting season we had was World War Two was still
going on. So it's it's been a while since they've
been this good.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
The gas man joining us, Mike, let's talk about the why.
I mean, it's it seems a little more than coincidental
that this is happening during the NIL air and you
got a really rich donor in Mark Cuban. So how
much of it is that? How much of it is
just coaching? What is the why behind this?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I don't know a lot of them behind the scenes stuff,
but it appears to me, I would appear to everybody obviously, Yeah, Cuban,
They've got a lot of other rich alums. I think
what they did was and I would assume Cuban was
a part of this. They hit the ground running with NIL.
They anticipated it, you know, they saw what was coming
and got their ducks in a row and got things
ready to go. But I think as much of that
(13:24):
it's you know, whether it was luck, whether he was
the first choice or whenever. I think getting Signetti to
come in, and the tact he decided to take where
he said, I'm just I'm not going to be satisfied
with just going to a bowl game. And you look
at him, you know, the whole google me I win
thing is one hundred percent true. He's had one year
(13:44):
where he almost didn't have a winning record. He was
six and five one year at elve. Other than that
his his season. You look at his career ten wins,
eleven wins, twelve, nine wins, tens, again and again and again,
the guy just wins. I think they found and there
are more teams looking for guys like this, these guys
that want to go out and make these bazillion dollar highers,
(14:05):
for guys that are kind of retreats as opposed to
finding a hungry coach who's been at the next level.
Batn has won everywhere he's gone. Yeah, no guarantees, obviously,
but I think a lot of it just comes back
to the y, comes back to coaching, and you know,
he was the I don't know ifk it was the first,
but to bring twelve of his players from James Madison,
you know, you have an ingrained culture. Now your guys
(14:28):
in the locker room believe in you, and they can
get other guys to believe in you. So there was
a little bit of that too.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Well, Gus, before you go, we talked about the absurdity
of all of this number one team in the country,
Heisman Trophy winner, the whole thing. But I don't think
the story needs to stop there. I mean, you could
very well win the whole damn thing and claim the
national championship. And this is the this is the crazy
part that if this was the old days, you'd have
to win two more games to win the national Championship.
(14:55):
If it was the old old days, you'd be twelve
and oho and have to win one more game before
you f out if the voter is voting number one.
So now you've got to go through Alabama or Oklahoma,
Oregon or Texas Tech and the Peach Bawl get by
maybe Ohio State again. What's your what's your gut feel
on how far this run goes?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Man it again is you know, I don't believe I'm
saying this, but I think they can do it now.
It's thinking they can do it and doing it. They
They've got, Like any team at this point in time,
you've got a rough road. You know you're gonna face
three really good teams. If the seating holds, they'd have
to play Oklahoma win that they got to go beat
Oregon for the second time this season. I think Oregan's
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and then if if the seating holds in, you're right,
Ohio State, you gotta beat them for a second time.
It's it's a it's it's a daunting task, but right
there in the fights hung it says we're never daunted,
So never donted. Man. I think they can do it.
I really, I really do. And one are the time
I want to go and join New Year's Day at
the Rose Bowl. You guys know what that's like. If
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I'd have been since the Tuiasa Soco games, I was
a throat was when was when Washington Purdue, and I'm
looking forward to getting back there again and getting to
see something I never thought i'd see.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Well, I gotta tell you, Dick agrees with this. I
know Andrews does too. Man, we got two favorite college
football teams, the Huskies and whoever the hell's playing Oregon. Man,
So if you play those guys again, take care, go
get the man, Go knock those bastards back to Eugene, Oregon.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Palce.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
So hey, listen, enjoy this. This is one of the
really cool things about this too, is that now you
get to have the entire month of December almost to
soak this up and really have some fun and enjoy this.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
That's what I love about this.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
Yeah, it is again kind of a new feeling for me.
I'll point out though, as you will though, Indiana's aren't
eating against Oregon this century.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
That's right, baby, that's right, love, and we're.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Two for two ducks fans. So yeah, okay, we'll seem
in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Go get him, man, Hey, have fun with this, enjoy
and we'll talk soon, buddy.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
All right, great to talk to both of you, extra
having me on.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
All right, the gas man, I mean he mentioned sixty
five years old. The guy's been waiting those whole life
for this.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
You know what this is like, By the way, this
is like you and me waiting until we're sixty five
to go to the World Series.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
That's what this is. The sixth wetting close tonight.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
We are thirteen years away from being in the exact
position that Mike is in with Indiana. We're gonna break
Seahawks rams. We're gonna talk about it next, all right.
Color number ten right now, two eight six, ninety five,
ninety five, eight hundred and eighty two nine or nine
(17:33):
five zero wins a pair of seats for the December
twenty ninth game against the Vancouver Canucks.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Cracking tonight back on the ice.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Against the Colorado Avalanche, six thirty pre game seven o'clock
face off right here on ninety three three KJRFM. Big
thanks to Mike Castao for jumping on the air with
us and saying hello, proving that yes, he still has
time for the little people in his old time slot
of three to seven here on KJR.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Well, we're his little twerps that he used to just
have to put up with.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Hey, man, trust me, I got stories, all right. I
was beaten down by that man. It's a miracle I'm
still here in this business. But no, Mike is heading
to the Rose Bowl in a couple weeks within the end,
and thrilled for him. Man, that's great, you know, waiting
that long to see something like that happen for your team.
I mean, I'm telling you, it's exactly where we might
be in thirteen years from now, when you and I
are sixty five and the Mariners haven't made the World Series,
(18:26):
and you set off the air, you think this current iteration,
this current version of Mariner baseball would eventually make the
World Series. But we all thought that ninety five I said,
I hope, I said, I would hope that this current
iteration would make it at least once.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Well, I mean, how about this.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
If I would have told you after Game six against
the Indians in ninety five and after Game five against
the Yankees in two thousand and one, they're not making
the World Series, you're gonna be waiting when you're fifty
two years old, you would have thought both times, there's
no way that's going to happen, right right with that
ninety five team that had that great core, that two
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thousand and one team that won one hundred and sixteen
games and won ninety three games in back to back years.
I mean, it's ludicrous how long this fan base has
been waiting for this, and.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Hey, today maybe the missing piece.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Uh Andrew Kisner has been signed, yeah baby, to a
one year contract. His nickname is World Series. By the way,
all right, Andrew Kisner is locked in? Is this the
end of the Mitch Garver era? Is it over?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Say goodbye? Probably?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
So are we sure? Are you gonna use Mitch Garver?
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Well, they just gave this guy a one year contract.
They can cut him tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
What that one million dollars doesn't necessarily even mean he's
the best.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah, I mean, remember they traded for Blake Hunt last year. Now,
Blake Khant was not a major league catcher. He was
an oriole You do remember that they made the trade
for Blake Khant. He was not the same player as Kisner.
I get that because Kisner is a major leaguer. But
I don't think this. I'm not saying that they're gonna
bring Garver back, Dick at all. I'm just saying I
don't think that the acquisition of Andrew kisne or should
(20:01):
keep them from doing anything they want to do at catcher.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
If they feel like there's a better option that pops
up down the road, then they should go do it.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
I just don't know why you'd want to bring back
a guy who his goal was to walk. His goal
wasn't actually to get a base hit. His goal was
to get himself on base.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Because getting on base matters, that's.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Right, Never and moneyball, Yeah, yes, what because he gets
on base? Because he gets on base. There you go,
don't make me point at you, Dick.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
The guy had.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
Yeah, now he had one big He had one big
hit in a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Against Detroit. I was there.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Well, let me ask you a question. Honestly, I know
we were going to talk Seahawks here, but this is
how we roll. Let me ask you a question. Yes,
if Mitch Garver last season was making a million dollars,
do you think people could have stomached him a little more?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (20:49):
He was making twelve million bucks last year, and if
he's making three months, let me tell you that was
the problem, right, because what the hell do we honestly
expect from a backup catcher?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Nothing? Well, have you seen Kisner's numbers?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Can he give you a zero point zero war? Have
you seen I can give you a zero point zero war?
It is better than Mitch Garter. Ever, each of the
last two seasons.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
We're talking about negative point one versus zero point zero.
I mean, what Mitch Garver does for the pitching staff,
for example, is that worth having him on the roster
for e milliam bucks? I think, and I get the
sense that the majority of the Mitch Garver angst is
because of the fact he was making twelve million dollars
last year and he was brought in to be like
the D eight, right, right? It was just not his fault, No,
(21:34):
that's a that's a roster flaw from Jerry to Poto
and Justin Hollander obviously. So how about we stop asking
guys to do things they can't do.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
How's that for an idea? Right?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
How about we actually go out this offseason and we
haven't even talked about Polanco taken off. That happened when
I was gone last week. Twenty million bucks a year.
You and I both know there was no shot the
Mariners were doing that, or should there none any chance
they were doing that, But now you need a second basement.
I mean, look, you've got you've got holes, and you've
got some players in house, like Williamson Cole Young for example,
(22:09):
that could fill some of these holes. But I don't
want to have all young guys fill in these holes.
I'd like to go out and sign some proven options
over the offseason. But you've got a hole in second,
you got a hole at third. I think you have
a hole in right that needs to be addressed, by
the way, and now you have a hole at DH
that needs to be addressed. So are we going to
fill all of those holes with the young guys from
(22:29):
the minor league system? I really hope now that they're
going to fill two of them with them. Yeah, but
that's not for Williamson and young No, you can't fight.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
I don't want to fill any more than those two
with young guys.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
The grades they they they cannot just sit back and
say we're going to rely on unproven options, not at
this time in their history, not Andrews with this pitching.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
So yeah, I just don't think that they think they
have a hole at right field. To be completely honest,
I agree with you. I think that could be addressed.
I could even throw in shortstop, sure in that situation.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Jp Crawford as a guy, we talk about a guy
who's literal job like trying to walk. How about a
guy that just for whatever reason, is not good defensively
at the most important position on the field. Defensively in shortstop,
cannot hit, cannot run.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
He brings you no value besides just what he's done.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
In the last time. How much can Williamson help him
though defensively be.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
A little bit to him, A little bit, I'd say,
But like, that's asking a six hundred oh ps guy
to come and save a guy who barely can play
shortstop anymore and already is not great off it.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
It's just too many what if situations.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
I just think, if you're gonna go with Ben Williams
in a third base, you better damn well go find
me a couple of bats.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yes for that one. Absolutely, that is.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Going to be on paper right now, and it could
change in May or June. I'll get it it easy out.
That is an easy out right now for your you're
playing with eight guys in your lineup, if Ben Williamson
is your starting third basement. Hey, would you like an
update on the poll. I'm not surprised at all, by
the way, by these results. Well, we threw it out
there today. If I guaranteed you a Seahawk appearance in
(24:05):
the NFC Championship Game, but.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
They lose, do you take it?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Thousand votes, seventy four percent say no, I want a
Super Bowl. Twenty six percent said yes. That'd be a
great turnaround from where this franchise was a couple of
years ago when they fired Pete Carroll. Go dogs on Twitter,
Hell and O. Especially if we get the number one seed,
that would be winning one home game and then losing
a home game the next week. Sea Dog Bob. If
(24:32):
I said you Dub would make the playoff next year,
but lose in the first round, do you take it
the roller Let's cross the bridge you built first. The
bridge hasn't been crossed in a decade. G Brot on Twitter.
Absolutely not since the end of Super Bowl forty nine.
All I can think about is getting back in winning.
So I'm not surprised by this, and I would also
(24:53):
vote no. I would not a dog that answered the question,
I would not take that.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
What does it have to what does it have to
do with the Huskies making the Well, the first round
of the playoffs is not like the NFC championship game.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
The National semi final is like the NFC championship game.
The first round of the playoffs would be like a
wild card again getting in exactly, so.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
It's not even close to the same.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
If the Seahawks were one of the rank and file
teams that were fighting to get into the playoffs, I
would totally accept it. Usually I'm the type of guy that, yeah,
you take double Bogie out of play, just let me
out a good playoff rates.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
That's not what the Seahawks team is. True.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
They are, in my opinion, a top two team in
the NFL, So why would I accept the loss in
the NFC Championship.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Let me if I'm with you, what do you be
for Vegas? Vegas? Vegas?
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Think me that at worst, they're the third best team
in the NFL. At worst, I mean, you go to
all the sports books and I'm looking at what is
his draft Kings. I got the Rams number one, Hawks
number two, Denver number three, followed by Buffalo Philadelphia.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
I mean yeah, I mean the worst you can find
is the Hawks at number three.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
So Dick, let me ask you this the biggest thing
for me, Zicher If you I think the Seahawks are
one of the two best teams, But how likely do
you think the Seahawks? Like, what's the chance that Seahawks
could get bounced in the first or second round?
Speaker 1 (26:07):
What happened you? I will answer this that question when
you answer this question. Yeah, who wins Thursday?
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Like they could lose.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
See that's the point, the point of ask you this
on That's why I'm asking now, Yes, because it's chicken
crap to wait until Friday.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
I mean, if we lose.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Friday, then right of course, that's why I'm not asking Friday.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I'm asking right freaking now. Well, I guess that tells you.
I guess that tells you. I think's gonna win on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Then, but you can't be shocked if they lose, right,
I mean fifty point two. I guarantee you an NFC
championship appearance right now, and that game.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Could be at home. You never know who could be
at home. I mean, guys, looks I got I got
news for you.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
At some point in time, the Seahawks are going to
play a conference title game at home and lose. That
will eventually happen. They probably should have lost in twenty fourteen.
They were down nineteen to six. For God's it's gonna happen.
So I get it for people that say yes, I
would take it, because I think they're looking at the
context of where this team was when Mike McDonald took over,
(27:11):
and what a run by John. What a statement by
John Schneider that would be it'd be even bigger to
make a Super Bowl. I get it, But don't you
think that would be one of John Schneider's greatest accomplishments
as the general manager of the Seahawks To say goodbye
to Gino Smith at the exact right time, to say
goodbye to Pete Carroll at the exact right time to
(27:32):
hire a thirty five year old coach, go get Sam
Darnold and free agency, have the draft that they've had,
and then.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Two years later playing the NFC championship game. Eh, unbelievable, crazy, unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
And I look at this NFC, I mean, when when
have we ever had five, six and seven seeds that
were as good as the Seahawks, Packers and Niners.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
Probably twenty thirteen and fourteen.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
And that's when I take the NFC Tampionship Gang.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
But there's a world where you lose on Thursday and
then go play at Lambeau in the division right right,
and I would not feel great about that game.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
I'll tell you what it is. I think I know
what it is about Anders. He's just a big sissy.
He's just I really am. The Niners in twenty thirteen
were the five seed at twelve and four, the Saints
for the sixth seed at eleven and five in two
thousand and thirte that's pretty.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Good safety, but he kind of gave us a decent game.
Pretty good.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
All right, we're gonna break text Amonials coming up next,
and then Jamie Clark from the National Championship UW men's
soccer team.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
How about act at five John Wilner.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
We're gonna push him to five twenty on ninety three
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