December 18, 2025 • 36 mins
Mike Florio joins the show to talk about the Seahawks-Rams game on Thursday night, Tua getting benched, Pete Carroll's future, Joe Burrow's future, and more. We hear from Seahawks coach Mike MacDonald as he updates us about Charles Cross and more going in to Thursday night against the Rams. Fun with Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We do have a little bit of a special gift
that if you want to call it, a little bit
of an early Christmas present for somebody. It's also day
three a hanika by the way, So whatever floats your batus,
fine by me.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What did you get?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Nothing? But I'm suing the company for religious discrimination? Did
you know that?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
By the way, No, because there's a Christmas tree in
the office and no manora, and it pisses me off.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Why do you bring an in?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
It's not my job?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well, who brought the Christmas tree?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Not me?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Company should take care of me. I feel rattled because
there's no monora in the studio. I think you definitely
have a entitlement.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I think.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I think it's fair.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
You absolutely have a point if it was actually the
company that brought the tree in, if it was just
some employee that.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Let me ask you a question, do you think one
of our employees brought a Christmas tree?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
It is a very much a Jessamine McIntyre, a Michael
Benton thing to do.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
There's no question about checking it. He's going to check it.
Did your Christmas tree? Did you bring the tree? Yes,
we're listening.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Let's confirm or deny my fine, I'm amending my lawsuit.
I'm suing Jessamin mcintie. Here's what I'm doing. I want
my freaka Minora for God's sake, I'm kidding. Well, here's
the deal. So at five forty five tonight, Anthony bay
Rudy from venue Kings dot Com is gonna jump on
the air. There's actually a lot to talk about with him,
because we've got this World Cup drama with the ticket prices.
(01:25):
We're gonna get to that how to get World Cup
tickets Seahawks tickets against the Rams tomorrow. He's gonna give
away a pair of tickets for tomorrow night's game at
five forty five, maybe the biggest Seahawk game in the
regular season in what a decade, at least a decade,
if not maybe eleven years.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So Anthony will join us on the year of five
to forty five.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
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tomorrow night, here's what you gotta do. Text us your
first and last name in your email right now to
four nine, four to five to one with the current
get in price at venue.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Kings dot com. Now here's the deal. Here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
By the time Anthony comes on the air five forty
five and we give away these seats.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
The get him price could change.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It could be what's the could it could be.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
What it is right now, or it could change, it
could drop, it could increase. You can take your chances
right now and just text in what the current geting
price is, which I will tell you. Go to venue
kings dot com and look it up for yourself, because
that's the whole point, by the way of this contest
is getting people to go over to the website, because
those guys like their clicks, if you know what I'm
(02:29):
talking about at venue kings dot com. So you can
text in right now, or you can wait until five
forty five.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
But here's the kicker.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
If you wait, you're gonna be waiting with everybody else
that waited as well.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Meaning if there's.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
A tie, the first one that got in is gonna
win the tickets for the Rams game tomorrow night. So
I would just text it in right now and hope
the number stays the same to be honest with you
at five forty five tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Or you can wait.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You can wait until later and check the website at
five point thirty or five forty three or five forty five,
right when Anthony comes on the air, and you can
risk everybody else that waited two to get that text
into us. So really, what I would do ifire you,
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send us your first and last name, your email, and
that number right now to four nine, four to five
to one, and then pray to God the number doesn't change.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I'll tell you what we'll do. Here's what we'll do.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
We'll we'll give you a little bit of a Honika
gift on top of the Christmas gift. Okay, I'll give
you a plus or minus five bucks on that. How's
that sound as the first person? Yes, the first person
that has the right answer. So I'm gonna check it
when Anthony comes on the air. He's gonna tell us
at that exact second, or I'll just look it up
for him and I'll tell him what it is at
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five forty five. And if you're within five bucks and
you were the first one to come in with that answer,
you're gonna win a paraceeeds from Mark.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I see this, Yes, right, I think you definitely know
there now, I think you're definitely going to give you
a break You're gonna give you a break room then
at Actually it behooves you to go testing right now.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Just get the thing in.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I'll give you a couple bucks either way to help
you out whatever you know, Hanukkah gift. Despite the fact
there's no Manora and there's a Christmas tree in here
and I'm suing Jessman, I'm still in a pretty good movie.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
You could really finangle the system.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Don't get by the lowest one and take the second
lowest one. Well, I'll tell you I will tell you
this that ticket prices are actually coming down, and they've
come down about thirty five percent since last night.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
By the way, yeah they won.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
People just waiting and waiting and waiting.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You know, when you're selling tickets on the resale market
and you get to the day before the game and
you realize you weren't going to get what you were
looking for, you just kind of drop it and just
say whatever. Like if you waited until tomorrow at four
o'clock to sell tickets, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
What the market looks like an hour before the game.
It's gonna tank.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But nobody wants to wait because they have no idea
if they'll be able to get seats. So look, tomorrow night,
it's gonna be fun. Mike Florio will join us in
a matter of seconds here on the radio show. But
just get the venue Kings dot Com. Texting your first
and last name and the current get in price for
the game tomorrow. Include your email on the text please
for the love of God, and we'll give away a
para seats. Coming up with Anthony at five forty five
(05:11):
tonight for again, let's face it, Dick, the biggest home game,
the biggest regular season game these guys are played in
at least a decade. Man.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Now we looked up yesterday. I think's twenty fourteen.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
It was this late in the year that a three
loss team is going up against another three loss team
at Lumenfield.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It's it's, you know, once in a decade situation.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Right, no question all r. Let's get to it. Mike
Florio joining us right now.
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Speaker 3 (06:10):
Tonight.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Here he is from the NFL and NBC Pro Football
Talk dot Com PFT live, the heavyweight champion people of
the NFL Press Corps. My friend Michael Florio, Mike, how
are you pal doing great?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Guys, there are you? We're doing good.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I told somebody the other day that this Thursday night
game tomorrow with the Rams and Seahawks, if you're like
ten years old, is their version of the eighty five
Bears Dolphins game back in the day on on on
Monday Night football. This is about as big as they
get in the regular season on Thursday night. Give me
your thoughts on what you think is going to go
down tomorrow at lumenfield Man, I.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Wouldn't compare it to Bears Dolphins for eighty five. Closer
to Seahawks forty nine er as well as that twenty
nineteen was that the season ending winner gets the one seed,
loser is the seed. It's far closer to that. And
speaking of the forty nine ers, I thought donally at
the schedule in the standings today, if the Seahawks win
this game, the forty nine Ers can steal the division.
(07:11):
They can steal the division. They can be the one
seed because they've got the Colts, the Bears, and the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
They went out.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
If the Seahawks win, forty nine Ers went out, they're
the one seed and the division champions. So don't sleep
on the forty nine Ers. Already came up there to
Seattle and one back in Week one. You got to
go there to end the season. And that's two huge
games for Sam Donalds in crunch time, not one like
last year Week eighteen Vikings at Lions. That's two Tomorrow
night and Week eighteen. Those of those boxes need to
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be checked. Or you can have a forty nine ers
with the one seed two home games after the bye
week they win them both and they played the Super
Bowl in their own damn stadium.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
So the first time these two teams played, he had
a sixty yard field goal miss that would have given
the Seahawks the win despite Sam Donald throwing it four
times to the Rams. Does that game have any bearing
it all in your mind over what we're going to
see tomorrow night.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Well, it's got bearing from the standpoint of the x's
and oh's and the game planning and what's on film
and that game within the game that is very nuanced
and subtle, and the looks that you show and the
film study and all that stuff that is far too
complicated for anyone to understand unless they're working in it.
But the reality is the Seahawks can't afford to get swepts.
(08:25):
They need this one badly because if they lose this,
when they fall a game behind in the standings, but
they're going to have to make up two games in
two weeks. And the Rams finished with the Falcons and
the Cardinals, so the Ram has become de facto division
champs if not one seed. If they win this game,
and if they stumble, it opens the door for the
Seahawks for forty nine ers.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Let's talk about Tua bench for Quinn viewers. A couple
of touchdowns in the fourth quarter, but looked awful through
three quarters on Monday night, and the Dolphins and Mike
McDaniel apparently have seen enough. What's your take on the
current situation involving to a tongue of biloa.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Well, we saw this one coming earlier in the year.
Mike Y Daniels said after a game, everything's on the
table when it comes to the quarterback position. By the
next day, he said to a won't be benched. He said,
everything's on the table again on Tuesday, the day after
the loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, in which Tua had
a few of those plays that and if you look
(09:23):
at him in isolation, he'll have these moments where the
play that's called isn't there. They take away the first
read and then he just freezes. There's a guy coming
at him. He doesn't throw the ball away, he just
completely seizes up, like a computer that gives you that
blue screen or the old Xbox three sixty red circle
of death, like it's just over and you can't have
(09:46):
that for all the good things he does. When you
see that happen, it's like what is going on here,
and the Dolphins have decided they seen enough. The problem
is they owned fifty four millions for the guaranteed next year.
If they cut him, they're gonna have to do with
million in cap charges now. If they cut him with
a post June one designation, they can spread it over
two years. If they trade him, they're taking like sixty
(10:07):
million plucks next year in dead money. If they trade
him before June one, and they're gonna have to pay
him a sizeable amount of his salary next year. No
one's going to want to take on the fifty four million.
So they've got to decide what to do. And the
options are try to trade him unlikely, cut him far
more likely, or you could say, hey, we got to
pay him, we may as well keep him. But I
don't think having him around is going to be useful
(10:28):
and helpful to moving on because there's that cluster of
Dolphins fans, and I think it's getting smaller all the time.
But they think that Tua is a solution and Mike
McDaniel and the rest of the team of the problem,
and that's just crazy at this point. But look at
what the Broncos did a couple of years ago they
pulled the bad daid off with Russell Wilson to took
eighty five million cap charges over two years. They're still
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taking thirty two million this year. And where are they
on the brink of the number one seed?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Well, speaking of New Alarm quarterbacks, what did you make
of what you saw from Philip Rivers on Sunday?
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Well, it was a great story, and it is a
great story, and this is a very dated reference. But
the one percent of the audience that gets it, this
is for you. In uniform, Philip Rivers looked like he
was getting ready to play in the rematch of Taft
bakers Field. Either you get that one? Are either with me.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
On that I'm trying. Well, I'm not ninety, I'm only
fifty two.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
By the way, remind me.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Well, you're old enough that you should know what I'm
talking about. So you can think about that one once
we're done. But look, hey, I think for the Seahawks,
here's what's impressive. It was the ultimate trap game. Put
yourself in the shoes of the Seahawks. They're facing a
team that had lost four out of five, I think,
and they're coming in with a forty four year old
quarterback that hasn't played in five years. That is the
(11:43):
ultimate opportunity for a letdown, and they still found a
way to win the game. That was impressive. You're gonna
have when you have a special season, You're gonna have
games that come along and they just catch your flat footed,
and the Colts almost did. But the Seahawks still pulled
it off, knowing that that huge games coming up on
Thursday and all the ingredients for an upset in hindsight,
in foresight, it was like, all the Seahawks are going
to kill him because they've been killing everybody lately. But
(12:06):
the fact that they found a way to win that
game when the Colts did everything in their power to
steal it, that's impressive. And that's what an elite team does.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
They don't lose those.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Games that pop around from time to time where it's
just not your day and you can't hold it together.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Mike, I feel like every week we're asking you for
the latest on Pete Carroll and his job in Vegas,
and Dick and I were talking yesterday. I can't remember
the last time somebody actually asked Pete at a press
conference if he's worried about losing his job, and that
was the question he got Monday. Should he be worried
about losing his job after one year?
Speaker 6 (12:40):
I think he should be. And he made the comment
that he acknowledges it's a rebuild. Do you really want
to be there? If it's a rebuild. One of the
theories making the rounds is they'll work out some sort
of settlement where he gets part of what he's still
owed and they move on. The question is are they
willing to admit that the reboot from last year was
a mistake? And look, here's the reaction. And Tom Brady
(13:02):
kind of a nice sweet spot for himself where if
things go well, he can do a victory laugh. If
things go poorly, he can say, hey, I work for Fox.
But when Mark Davis sold him a piece of the
team at a sweetheart rate, David said, and he said
this back in January after they hired Pete Carroll and
John spy Tex by text the GM Mark David said
that Brady is the guy on the football side to
stabilize the organization. He's a guy I haven't had since
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John Grudin got forced out. Well, Brady hasn't stabilized it.
Other than to make it very stable and very bad.
And he doesn't get a whole lot of grief for this.
Being a drive by part time owner or influence on
football operations doesn't work. He didn't usually go all in
or all out, and a lot of this is on him.
And look, he tried to get Ben Jonson and even
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the great Tom Brady couldn't pull it off. He didn't
want Sam Darnold, he couldn't get Matthew Staffords. They settled
for Geno Smith, and look at where they are. And
I think one of the reasons they went for Gino
Smith they thought the team was better than it is.
And I think that's one of the most important for
any football organization, being very self aware about how good
or not good you are. They expected to be better
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than this, Pete expected to be better than this. So
it's a shock for everyone. I fig at this point
it's not sustainable. Seventy five yards game against the Eagles,
that's the lowest the franchise is mustard since nineteen sixty one.
It is not sustainable. And if they don't do something,
here's something to watch. If they don't do something, you're
going to see the very few good players on that
team try to get out like Max Crosby and Brought Bowers,
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and that's basically it. That's the list of the great
players on that team.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Right now, what would you do, Mike, if you were
Brett Veach in Kansas City, would you just try to
just tweak it and play a drink yes, and play
to win in twenty twenty six, or would just say,
you know what, I'm going to use twenty twenty six
as a time to tear it down, let Patrick Mahomes
get healthy, and then try to win a championship in
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twenty twenty seven when I've retooled everything.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
I think there's no such thing as a a full
rebuild in the NFL because if you try to do
that and you have a sufficiently bad season, that's when
ownership feels pressure to make changes. Now. I don't think
the Chiefs should ever consider involuntarily separating from Brett Veach
or Andy Reid, But this is one of those change
of tire on a moving car, and they've got the
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most important position covered. Look at all the teams out
there that are somewhat competitive and they just don't have
a quarterback. Think how bad the Chiefs would be if
they didn't have Patrick Mahomes. I think they need to
just do what they can to improve. They got to
hit on the draft picks. Those are young chief players
to become the nucleus if your team going forward, if
they become the contributors to the future, that's going to
dig you out of this. They need to make good
(15:39):
decisions about who to keep, who to get rid of.
They got to spend wisely in free agency. All the while,
Patrick Mahomes is rehaving this injury, and look, he's already
attacking it. That's not a surprise. I who we expect
him to do everything in his power to be back
as quickly as possible. I just wonder whether or not
I mentioned Reid. You know, it's easy to stay on
the job deep into your sixties when it's moves sailing
(16:01):
straight to the super Bowl every year, and they've been
to three straight and five out of six. Right, Well,
now that you have to, like I mean, and only
Andy Reid knows the answer to this question, but you're
far more likely to decide it's time when you're looking
at and if you're taking an honest assessment of where
your roster is and how much work needs to be
done because by the time we get to where we
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need to be, is it going to be time? And
does it make sense to handle a toon to someone else? Now,
that's for him to decide. That's only for him to decide.
And he's been coaching as a head coach since nineteen
ninety nine. It would be very, very difficult for him
to walk away from it. But this is I think
the first occasion since Patrick Mahomes arrived that it makes
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sense for him to take a step back and ask himself,
is it time or are we going to dig in
for what could be three four years before we're back
to what we were?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Well, Mike, before you go Mike Florial with us ProFootball
talk dot com, courtesy is simply Seattle. So this time
a year from now, when we have you on the
air and we're at asking you about Joe Burrow, are
we talking about Joe Burrow the Bengal or Joe Burrow
the something else?
Speaker 6 (17:06):
In a year from now, Well, Joe Son, you I'll
be dead by then.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Wow, Jeez, holiday.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Mor big, that's another old reference. If you get that
reference on top of the other one, then you can
be my friend and neither of you can be my
friend because you don't know what I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I think you just now, I think you bring up
references that you know we're not going to get, so
that we won't be friends.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
By the way, that's I'm starting to understand this game.
Won't even if you got there.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Listen, even if we got the reference, we wouldn't be friends.
It's funny because Joe Burrow had those comments last week
that we're very stunning, because you rarely get that kind
of candor. You get cliches guys, the internalized things. They
don't talk openly. He was so down last week and
he said he's not having fun and he wants to
have fun again. And it doesn't take a genius to
(17:51):
start connecting dots back to the organization, which is notoriously cheap.
They didn't take the snow off the seats for crying
out loud this week and in violational league policy because
hey costs money to bring people in to take the
snow off the seats. And what he said today, when
I look at that, he is leaving the door open
a crack, and I think it's going to be a
delicate thing for him to do because you don't want
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everyone in Ohio to hate you. He's from Ohio. When
I wrote Playmakers four years ago, one of the things
I reported in there, and this is one hundred percent true,
and Bengals fans get triggered when I say it, But
I was told by someone in a position to know
if Joe Burrow was from Athens, Georgia and not Athens, Ohio,
he would have refused to play for the Bengals when
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they had the opportunity to draft him first overall in
twenty twenty. So we got to factor all that in,
and there was this flurry of reports last week, Oh,
he wants to stay, He's got to play the game.
And I think what he's trying to do in a
roundabout way, I think he kind of makes the Bengals
decide they're better off selling high that if he's on
(18:52):
this downward trajectory and he's not happy, you're never going
to get more for him than you're going to get
right now. So that's the way to do it. You
make them think, and how don't we all been in
one of those relationships where we really want out. But
it would be a lot easier if you can convince
the other person to be the one to end it,
(19:13):
like you know. I mean, I've probably had that trick
put on me a couple of times, but I know
I used it at least once, and it can be
very effective if you play it the right way. And
that may be what he's trying to do.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Mike Florio, great stuff, appreciate it. We'll see about next week.
Hopefully it work something I'll do Tuesday. I'll be okay,
done Tuesday. We'll talk to you Tuesday.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
You pay, you pay triple to rate holiday week holiday.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Give you a little holiday bonus, all right.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I'll give you a little extra matz of ball soup
with your Menora next week. Man, all right, great stuff, man,
enjoy the weekend seeing all right?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Guy, Yeah, guy, davidly Row.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yes, I do remember the reference we get as a
matter of fact, check no, hang on, check out this.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
You're like this rama. You know who that is. By
the way, that's you, Mike Florio with us.
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Speaker 1 (20:39):
All right, here we go, big big, big big. Did
I say big Wednesday? Right here on ninety three three
kJ r F M. I said big, big, big, big big.
Because I'm using that time. While I'm saying big, big,
big big, I have to figure out what day it is.
That's why I'm doing figure out what day, giving myself
a chance. I mean, it feels like a Tuesday could
be a Thursday, What day Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I actually I do that all the times. Very am
I the only one that does that?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Why don't they play that commercial anymore?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
My camel's great, it's great.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I don't know I about the monkey with one Robotic
arm State Farm commercial? Remember that that played over and
over and over and over and over again. Is it
possible to get like Stockholm syndrome over radio commercials?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Like you for Kids fall in Love with your Captor.
I have heard the Cars for Kids commercials so many
times now that I actually might enjoy.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I'm kind of with you.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I mean, it's just like a it's a dose of comfort, right, Yeah,
it's just familiarity.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
You know, everything's okay when you know.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I mean, let me ask you a question. If you
got lost.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Somewhere and you finally found your way home and the
first thing you heard was the Cars for Kids commercial,
you'd be.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Like, I'm home.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I've made it.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I mean, it's it's played so often. I've gone from
hating it to loving. Mike McDonald seahawk head coach, what's
going on with Charles Cross Tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Night against the l A Rams.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Here's the coach talking about the short week, and stay
tuned because he addresses the Charles Cross situation very quickly here.
Speaker 9 (22:17):
Coming out of the last game, I think, and you
don't only have much time to do it. You know,
you're kind of turning the page pretty quickly. But the guy,
the guys know what we need to do and you
know how to do it. And I think, I think
that's the same feeling we have every week, honestly, just
trying to try and nail the process and doing what
we're doing and feel as prepared as we can.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
Going into the game.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Mike House, Charles done.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
He's actually I don't know, I don't have all the
updates for you, but he's he's not he's going to
be out to you know, tomorrow, So.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
I don't have a time frame for you. We're working
through it.
Speaker 10 (22:56):
For similar when you watch the last game you guys
played again, the Ramps, h there's the time between now
and then anything stand out to you, and reflecting on
that first game.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
We disappointed.
Speaker 9 (23:09):
My answer, I mean, I kind of just I think
I think we just take it very black and white,
like it's just you know, these are the plays that
we ran, this is how we played, and this is
what they did, and this is what they've done since,
and this is what we've done since.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
And then you try to kind of up.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
You kind of these are the guys that are available,
and we got a different you know, host of guys
that are available on both sides, and so you know,
you try to you try to make the best decision
you can on how you anticipate things going and things
that you want to you know, protect or attack or
you know that sort of thing. It's kind of you know,
you're it's a it's a four game sample since you played,
(23:51):
which is a little bit you know, it's.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
You know, when you play teams the second time.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
There's a different spectrum of like how long those games
are in between sometimes, like you know, we play the Niners,
the whole season's worth. You know, it's hard to go
off that tape, but there's a lot off that tape,
you know, within four games that is probably.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Probably relevant.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
Josh Josh with Josh starts, Oh yeah's gonna start.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
Let's be a neger qussion of what Josh has provided.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
For you with he.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
Was got most of his opportunities in in in preseason,
and he did a great job filling in for Charles
when he was going through uh his training camp stuff.
So it's just like everything else, you know, we've had,
We've had guys that have had to had that had
that have had opportunities throughout the season, and this is
this is no different. He's got a great opportunity, he's
prepared go out there and play your tail off.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
You know, let's go roll the same answer the same question.
Speaker 10 (24:50):
Has he primarily been practicing at left tackle or also
at right tackle.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
All over the Yeah, and he's like he's swing tackle
right now. So Alwa's practice at both.
Speaker 9 (24:58):
These short weeks always present major challenges, but it is
do you kind of relish the opportunity to go up
against somebody like Sean mcavay in this type of situation.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
And then it has been so good over the years
about switching.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
Things up, So I'm gonna get this question from now
until we uh, hopefully for a long time. It's just look,
it's the same there's I mean, Shawn's especially especially good
at what he does. He's one of the best to
do it, and if not the best.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
And but there's a lot every court.
Speaker 9 (25:31):
I mean, look that there's a lot of talented play
cards and a lot of talented schemes and a lot
of great players. And you see that every week, and
so every week has its own host of challenges that
you're trying to trying to work through as a football team,
you know.
Speaker 7 (25:43):
So in that.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
Regard, it's it's it's the same thing now, Like you know,
they have a certain way of operating and how things
that they play and how they build stuff and ways
that they attacked us in the past, and that's that's
the lens that you have to.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Oh, you got cut him off right there? Why not?
Speaker 6 (26:01):
What the heck?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I mean, we got what we needed. Let's just get
the heck out.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Wow, Charles cross out tomorrow night, not gonna play. Josh
Jones will start in his place. If you look at
the geeks at PFF, they say he's a much better
pass blocker than he is a run blocker.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
But I mean, guys, let's face it, this is a
blow right.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I mean, come on, We're talking about not having your
starting left tackle, for God's sakes, versus a guy in
Josh Jones who was taking fifty six snaps the entire
season at that position, so against that defensive front. There's
no way to sugarcoat this and no way to paint
this as a positive. They're gonna have to figure it out.
This is why Clint Kubiak gets paid the amount of
(26:41):
money he gets paid. It's why Sam Darnold's making thirty
five million bucks a year. It's why Kenny Walker and
Zach Charboney are here to go out and run the
football and maybe go away from that side potentially. But yeah,
I mean this is and the words are rich more
not good that Charles crosses out in this game tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
And no, I mean I we had grays Abel out
last game. He got injured in the Rams game, so
he started the Rams thin. So you have had a
stud offensive lineman out for a good chunk of a
game against Los Angeles, but it just it continues to
push me towards winner gets to twenty points. Man, I
mean the last game was twenty one to nineteen. I
really don't understand why the over under and this is
(27:22):
forty five forty five and a half. I mean, unless
you get under, let's you get a defensive touchdown like
what is without DeVante Adams For the Rams without Charles Cross,
neither team should be able to run the ball very
well against the other team's defense, Like why should we
expect the team's gonna get to twenty seven well?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And also, to me real quick, I know if to
break here just reinforces my thoughts on what the Rams
are going to do defensively. I don't think it's going
to be a surprise to Clint Kubiak and Sam Donald
when they just come right at him and get in
his face like they did in Game one, and go
right at Josh Jones and go right at Sam Donald
and force him into fumbling the ball, throwing picks and
making mistakes. So I was on a mark today on
(28:01):
his show, and I just said, look, man, you know
a lot of people go on the air and they'll
try to break this down. I mean, there's only one
guy that can really do that, and that's Hugh Millen
by the way. But you know, depending on the you know,
twelve personnel the Rams play or the Seahawks play against
the nickel package of the Seahawks defense. No, no, no,
you got a guy in Sam Darnold who threw four
interceptions in the first game and they were sixty one
(28:22):
yards away from winning the game on a field goal
by Jason Myers. So first, let's take care of the ball,
all right, don't do that. Okay, if you're Sam, dude,
you're making thirty five million.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Enough is enough.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Everyone's waiting for you to fart your pants off in
a big game like tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Prove them wrong. Don't turn the ball over, and the
Hawks should win this game. Tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
We're going to break a little fun with audio slash
hated you hear that maybe coming up on ninety three
to three KJRFM.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
It's now time for something in Dick's Fun with Audio.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
All right, here we go on a busy, busy, busy See,
I'm doing it busy Wednesday, he day, busy day. Right
here on ninety three three kg RFM. Petros Paparack that's
gonna join us, coming up at four o'clock this afternoon.
First time we've had him on since the Sharon More
thing came down as a matter of fact last week.
So his thoughts on all of that and more coming up,
(29:30):
Pete Carroll's future in Vegas. Petros joining us courtesy of
Sweet James in about twelve minutes from now. All right,
here we go a little fun with audio slash. Hey
did you hear that? Hey, Dick, did you happen to
hear that?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
What's that day?
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Here's that?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Dick? On first take today.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Following the next big NBA Cup victory, Chris mad Dog
Russo had this to say to Nick fans, including Steven A. Smith,
that we're celebrating the win as a meaningful, significant piece
of hardware.
Speaker 11 (29:58):
Somewhere Watt Fraser and let Red and Red Holtzman are saying, really,
we're gonna celebrate this stupid thing, this inauthentic creation to
jazz up the regular season, which means absolutely nothing in
a big picture, and we're gonna celebrate this hats and
batters a challenge. This is like the World Baseball Classic,
(30:18):
which I've always killed by the way I did with
Otani and Trout.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
So I'm consistent.
Speaker 11 (30:22):
This is stupid, This is this is not authentic, and
you're gonna sit there and tell me that this is
something significant. I fabricated event when Wimbyama play twenty minutes,
I mean, are we gonna do this now?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I mean, you must keep kidding me.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
All right, So, first of all, I don't think it's
comparable at all to the World Baseball Classic. The World
Baseball Classic is an international tournament that is basically the
Olympics of baseball, and the players love it. Okay, this
is not the NBA Cup. It's two totally different things.
But having said that.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I agree with them.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I don't see any real significance of the NBA Cup.
But I'm also fifty two years old and this is
brand new to me. Right, Like some ten year old
kid or six year old kid, Dick, all they do
is grow up with the NBA Cup. Maybe one day
they'll think it's awesome, and if it gets people to
engage in the NBA, and it gets players to give
a damn about games in December, then.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I don't know whatever it's getting people a to talk
about games in December, right, it is getting superstars to
play games in decision.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Which is ridiculous that you have to do. That is true, That.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Is true, ridiculous. They played their stars the whole game.
What stupid comment by mad Dog about Wemby. Does he
not realize he's two games off an injury. He played
twenty one minutes against Oklahoma City on Saturday, he played
twenty five minutes against the next That's as much as
he was going to play.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
And his grandmother died by the way.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Yes, I mean, what ridiculous comment by mad Dog to
bring up minutes.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I think.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I think, well, first of all, I think if it
was a significant tournament like the NBA Playoffs, is there
a better chance than not that Wemby is sucking it
up and playing thirty five to forty minutes if this
is Game seven of the Western Conference Final.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yes, But my point is if this wasn't the NBA Cup,
he probably wouldn't have played as many minutes as he did.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
I think that's Chris's point though, that because it's not significant,
it's why people aren't really going out there and giving
an A plus effort to be on the floor. It
doesn't mean that much to these guys. I think Wemby's
minutes kind of shows that a little bit. If this
was I look, if he's hurt and he can't go,
then whatever, Game seven, Conference Finals, NBA Finals, he's playing,
(32:36):
he's sucking it up and he's getting out there. But
for the NBA Cup, with how many more months of basketball?
Six months of basketball left to go, he's not going
to risk injury. Well, no way, I mean, nor should he.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
By the way, the Knicks rotation, yeah, looks to me
like an NBA Finals minutes rotation. Well, we only played
eight players, Og, Karl Anthony, Towns, Jalen Brunson, mckill, Bridges.
They all played thirty plus zho oj Og played forty.
Jalen bruns have played forty one minutes. It means more
to the next than it does the Spurs.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I mean, it means so much to the Knicks that
they're not even hanging a banner. They said, we don't
need a banner. We're not doing it.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I do think the.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Boss did it, the Lakers did it.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Look I mean, I think I think we can disagree
on this, that there are reasons to do it. There's
also reasons to agree with Russo that it's nothing significant whatsoever.
There's a gimmick to get NBA players who are paid
millions of dollars a year to actually do their jobs
in the month of December. And that's a sad state
(33:36):
of affairs, but it's reality.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I agree we shouldn't put a banner up for the
NBA Cup, but I think the people that are really
have a problem with it are.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Just complaining for complaining's sake.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Let's let's get one more before the break. Hey Dick,
did you happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Let's go to his partner, go back to number one there.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Anders also on First Take today, steven A, we gave
Russo air time. It's like the presidential race got to
give both sides airtime. Steven A talking about what the
Raiders need to do to become relevant again.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
They say, what happens.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
In Vegas stays in vasas.
Speaker 12 (34:12):
But the Raiders are so awful right now, the stinch
has circulated throughout the country, every football city, every football
city recognizes how awful they have been. Put Tom Brady
in charge. Mark Davis just hand over the whole. I
don't care about him being just a part owner. Handover
football operations to Tom Brady. Okay, not that you can,
(34:34):
because he's not going to leave the job. That he's
got a Fox paying him over thirty seven million dollars
to run the damn Raiders.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
He ain't stupid at all, but.
Speaker 12 (34:43):
Ask him anyway, figure out something, because you need all
the help you can get.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
The Raiders are awful. Geno Smith said.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Geno Smith, excuse me, has the thirty second best QBR
in the NFL, and there's thirty three players that have qualified.
You know who's thirty third behind? Geno Smith said, cam
Ward is thirty three. So I think that a big
reason why the Raiders are where they're at is because
of the way Geno Smith has played. Now, I haven't
watched every Raider game, don't know about the offensive line,
(35:14):
don't know about everything else around him. I mean, he's
got Bowers, he's got Jenny and Max Crosby, and that
really is kind of.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
It in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
But Pete Carroll trusted Geno Smith to get him through
year one as the Vegas Raiders head coach, and I
don't know he's has he let him down?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I don't know. I don't I don't watch.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Enough Raider football to know who's to blame for the
offense being miserable in Vegas. I just know the numbers
Dick show that Gino Smith has been terrible, and a couple.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Of games that I've seen them, their offensive line gets
blown off the ball every single play. Ashton gent gets
the handoff and usually he's wrapped up behind the line
of scrimming.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Where's he gonna go exactly?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
But yeah, Geno's been Gino's been horrible.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
But that's what's gonna happen when you use your first
high first round draft pick YEP on a height end
in a running back in back to back years.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Guess what your trenches are gonna suck?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Did you see the amount of times that Sam Donald
has been sacked compared to Gino Smith.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Sam Donald has been sacked eighteen times.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Anybody want to guess how many times Gino Smith has
been taken down forty nine times?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Forty nine times?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
All Right, we're gonna break Petros joins Next on ninety
three three kJ A RFM,
We do have a little bit of a special gift
that if you want to call it, a little bit
of an early Christmas present for somebody. It's also day
three a hanika by the way, So whatever floats your batus,
fine by me.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
What did you get?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Nothing? But I'm suing the company for religious discrimination? Did
you know that?
Speaker 1 (00:14):
By the way, No, because there's a Christmas tree in
the office and no manora, and it pisses me off.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Why do you bring an in?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
It's not my job?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well, who brought the Christmas tree?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Not me?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Company should take care of me. I feel rattled because
there's no monora in the studio. I think you definitely
have a entitlement.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I think.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I think it's fair.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
You absolutely have a point if it was actually the
company that brought the tree in, if it was just
some employee that.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Let me ask you a question, do you think one
of our employees brought a Christmas tree?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
It is a very much a Jessamine McIntyre, a Michael
Benton thing to do.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
There's no question about checking it. He's going to check it.
Did your Christmas tree? Did you bring the tree? Yes,
we're listening.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Let's confirm or deny my fine, I'm amending my lawsuit.
I'm suing Jessamin mcintie. Here's what I'm doing. I want
my freaka Minora for God's sake, I'm kidding. Well, here's
the deal. So at five forty five tonight, Anthony bay
Rudy from venue Kings dot Com is gonna jump on
the air. There's actually a lot to talk about with him,
because we've got this World Cup drama with the ticket prices.
(01:25):
We're gonna get to that how to get World Cup
tickets Seahawks tickets against the Rams tomorrow. He's gonna give
away a pair of tickets for tomorrow night's game at
five forty five, maybe the biggest Seahawk game in the
regular season in what a decade, at least a decade,
if not maybe eleven years.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So Anthony will join us on the year of five
to forty five.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
If you want to win a pair of seats for
tomorrow night, here's what you gotta do. Text us your
first and last name in your email right now to
four nine, four to five to one with the current
get in price at venue.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Kings dot com. Now here's the deal. Here's the deal.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
By the time Anthony comes on the air five forty
five and we give away these seats.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
The get him price could change.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
It could be what's the could it could be.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
What it is right now, or it could change, it
could drop, it could increase. You can take your chances
right now and just text in what the current geting
price is, which I will tell you. Go to venue
kings dot com and look it up for yourself, because
that's the whole point, by the way of this contest
is getting people to go over to the website, because
those guys like their clicks, if you know what I'm
(02:29):
talking about at venue kings dot com. So you can
text in right now, or you can wait until five
forty five.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
But here's the kicker.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
If you wait, you're gonna be waiting with everybody else
that waited as well.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Meaning if there's.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
A tie, the first one that got in is gonna
win the tickets for the Rams game tomorrow night. So
I would just text it in right now and hope
the number stays the same to be honest with you
at five forty five tonight.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Or you can wait.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
You can wait until later and check the website at
five point thirty or five forty three or five forty five,
right when Anthony comes on the air, and you can
risk everybody else that waited two to get that text
into us. So really, what I would do ifire you,
I would go to the website right now venu Kings
dot com. Check the current getting price for the Ramshawks tomorrow,
(03:17):
send us your first and last name, your email, and
that number right now to four nine, four to five
to one, and then pray to God the number doesn't change.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I'll tell you what we'll do. Here's what we'll do.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
We'll we'll give you a little bit of a Honika
gift on top of the Christmas gift. Okay, I'll give
you a plus or minus five bucks on that. How's
that sound as the first person? Yes, the first person
that has the right answer. So I'm gonna check it
when Anthony comes on the air. He's gonna tell us
at that exact second, or I'll just look it up
for him and I'll tell him what it is at
(03:46):
five forty five. And if you're within five bucks and
you were the first one to come in with that answer,
you're gonna win a paraceeeds from Mark.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I see this, Yes, right, I think you definitely know
there now, I think you're definitely going to give you
a break You're gonna give you a break room then
at Actually it behooves you to go testing right now.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Just get the thing in.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I'll give you a couple bucks either way to help
you out whatever you know, Hanukkah gift. Despite the fact
there's no Manora and there's a Christmas tree in here
and I'm suing Jessman, I'm still in a pretty good movie.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
You could really finangle the system.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Don't get by the lowest one and take the second
lowest one. Well, I'll tell you I will tell you
this that ticket prices are actually coming down, and they've
come down about thirty five percent since last night.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
By the way, yeah they won.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I think that.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
People just waiting and waiting and waiting.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
You know, when you're selling tickets on the resale market
and you get to the day before the game and
you realize you weren't going to get what you were
looking for, you just kind of drop it and just
say whatever. Like if you waited until tomorrow at four
o'clock to sell tickets, you know.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
What the market looks like an hour before the game.
It's gonna tank.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But nobody wants to wait because they have no idea
if they'll be able to get seats. So look, tomorrow night,
it's gonna be fun. Mike Florio will join us in
a matter of seconds here on the radio show. But
just get the venue Kings dot Com. Texting your first
and last name and the current get in price for
the game tomorrow. Include your email on the text please
for the love of God, and we'll give away a
para seats. Coming up with Anthony at five forty five
(05:11):
tonight for again, let's face it, Dick, the biggest home game,
the biggest regular season game these guys are played in
at least a decade. Man.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Now we looked up yesterday. I think's twenty fourteen.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
It was this late in the year that a three
loss team is going up against another three loss team
at Lumenfield.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
It's it's, you know, once in a decade situation.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Right, no question all r. Let's get to it. Mike
Florio joining us right now.
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Speaker 3 (06:10):
Tonight.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
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the NFL Press Corps. My friend Michael Florio, Mike, how
are you pal doing great?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Guys, there are you? We're doing good.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I told somebody the other day that this Thursday night
game tomorrow with the Rams and Seahawks, if you're like
ten years old, is their version of the eighty five
Bears Dolphins game back in the day on on on
Monday Night football. This is about as big as they
get in the regular season on Thursday night. Give me
your thoughts on what you think is going to go
down tomorrow at lumenfield Man, I.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Wouldn't compare it to Bears Dolphins for eighty five. Closer
to Seahawks forty nine er as well as that twenty
nineteen was that the season ending winner gets the one seed,
loser is the seed. It's far closer to that. And
speaking of the forty nine ers, I thought donally at
the schedule in the standings today, if the Seahawks win
this game, the forty nine Ers can steal the division.
(07:11):
They can steal the division. They can be the one
seed because they've got the Colts, the Bears, and the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
They went out.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
If the Seahawks win, forty nine Ers went out, they're
the one seed and the division champions. So don't sleep
on the forty nine Ers. Already came up there to
Seattle and one back in Week one. You got to
go there to end the season. And that's two huge
games for Sam Donalds in crunch time, not one like
last year Week eighteen Vikings at Lions. That's two Tomorrow
night and Week eighteen. Those of those boxes need to
(07:39):
be checked. Or you can have a forty nine ers
with the one seed two home games after the bye
week they win them both and they played the Super
Bowl in their own damn stadium.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
So the first time these two teams played, he had
a sixty yard field goal miss that would have given
the Seahawks the win despite Sam Donald throwing it four
times to the Rams. Does that game have any bearing
it all in your mind over what we're going to
see tomorrow night.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Well, it's got bearing from the standpoint of the x's
and oh's and the game planning and what's on film
and that game within the game that is very nuanced
and subtle, and the looks that you show and the
film study and all that stuff that is far too
complicated for anyone to understand unless they're working in it.
But the reality is the Seahawks can't afford to get swepts.
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They need this one badly because if they lose this,
when they fall a game behind in the standings, but
they're going to have to make up two games in
two weeks. And the Rams finished with the Falcons and
the Cardinals, so the Ram has become de facto division
champs if not one seed. If they win this game,
and if they stumble, it opens the door for the
Seahawks for forty nine ers.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Let's talk about Tua bench for Quinn viewers. A couple
of touchdowns in the fourth quarter, but looked awful through
three quarters on Monday night, and the Dolphins and Mike
McDaniel apparently have seen enough. What's your take on the
current situation involving to a tongue of biloa.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Well, we saw this one coming earlier in the year.
Mike Y Daniels said after a game, everything's on the
table when it comes to the quarterback position. By the
next day, he said to a won't be benched. He said,
everything's on the table again on Tuesday, the day after
the loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, in which Tua had
a few of those plays that and if you look
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at him in isolation, he'll have these moments where the
play that's called isn't there. They take away the first
read and then he just freezes. There's a guy coming
at him. He doesn't throw the ball away, he just
completely seizes up, like a computer that gives you that
blue screen or the old Xbox three sixty red circle
of death, like it's just over and you can't have
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that for all the good things he does. When you
see that happen, it's like what is going on here,
and the Dolphins have decided they seen enough. The problem
is they owned fifty four millions for the guaranteed next year.
If they cut him, they're gonna have to do with
million in cap charges now. If they cut him with
a post June one designation, they can spread it over
two years. If they trade him, they're taking like sixty
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million plucks next year in dead money. If they trade
him before June one, and they're gonna have to pay
him a sizeable amount of his salary next year. No
one's going to want to take on the fifty four million.
So they've got to decide what to do. And the
options are try to trade him unlikely, cut him far
more likely, or you could say, hey, we got to
pay him, we may as well keep him. But I
don't think having him around is going to be useful
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and helpful to moving on because there's that cluster of
Dolphins fans, and I think it's getting smaller all the time.
But they think that Tua is a solution and Mike
McDaniel and the rest of the team of the problem,
and that's just crazy at this point. But look at
what the Broncos did a couple of years ago they
pulled the bad daid off with Russell Wilson to took
eighty five million cap charges over two years. They're still
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taking thirty two million this year. And where are they
on the brink of the number one seed?
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Well, speaking of New Alarm quarterbacks, what did you make
of what you saw from Philip Rivers on Sunday?
Speaker 6 (10:59):
Well, it was a great story, and it is a
great story, and this is a very dated reference. But
the one percent of the audience that gets it, this
is for you. In uniform, Philip Rivers looked like he
was getting ready to play in the rematch of Taft
bakers Field. Either you get that one? Are either with me.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
On that I'm trying. Well, I'm not ninety, I'm only
fifty two.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
By the way, remind me.
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Well, you're old enough that you should know what I'm
talking about. So you can think about that one once
we're done. But look, hey, I think for the Seahawks,
here's what's impressive. It was the ultimate trap game. Put
yourself in the shoes of the Seahawks. They're facing a
team that had lost four out of five, I think,
and they're coming in with a forty four year old
quarterback that hasn't played in five years. That is the
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ultimate opportunity for a letdown, and they still found a
way to win the game. That was impressive. You're gonna
have when you have a special season, You're gonna have
games that come along and they just catch your flat footed,
and the Colts almost did. But the Seahawks still pulled
it off, knowing that that huge games coming up on
Thursday and all the ingredients for an upset in hindsight,
in foresight, it was like, all the Seahawks are going
to kill him because they've been killing everybody lately. But
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the fact that they found a way to win that
game when the Colts did everything in their power to
steal it, that's impressive. And that's what an elite team does.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
They don't lose those.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Games that pop around from time to time where it's
just not your day and you can't hold it together.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Mike, I feel like every week we're asking you for
the latest on Pete Carroll and his job in Vegas,
and Dick and I were talking yesterday. I can't remember
the last time somebody actually asked Pete at a press
conference if he's worried about losing his job, and that
was the question he got Monday. Should he be worried
about losing his job after one year?
Speaker 6 (12:40):
I think he should be. And he made the comment
that he acknowledges it's a rebuild. Do you really want
to be there? If it's a rebuild. One of the
theories making the rounds is they'll work out some sort
of settlement where he gets part of what he's still
owed and they move on. The question is are they
willing to admit that the reboot from last year was
a mistake? And look, here's the reaction. And Tom Brady
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kind of a nice sweet spot for himself where if
things go well, he can do a victory laugh. If
things go poorly, he can say, hey, I work for Fox.
But when Mark Davis sold him a piece of the
team at a sweetheart rate, David said, and he said
this back in January after they hired Pete Carroll and
John spy Tex by text the GM Mark David said
that Brady is the guy on the football side to
stabilize the organization. He's a guy I haven't had since
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John Grudin got forced out. Well, Brady hasn't stabilized it.
Other than to make it very stable and very bad.
And he doesn't get a whole lot of grief for this.
Being a drive by part time owner or influence on
football operations doesn't work. He didn't usually go all in
or all out, and a lot of this is on him.
And look, he tried to get Ben Jonson and even
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the great Tom Brady couldn't pull it off. He didn't
want Sam Darnold, he couldn't get Matthew Staffords. They settled
for Geno Smith, and look at where they are. And
I think one of the reasons they went for Gino
Smith they thought the team was better than it is.
And I think that's one of the most important for
any football organization, being very self aware about how good
or not good you are. They expected to be better
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than this, Pete expected to be better than this. So
it's a shock for everyone. I fig at this point
it's not sustainable. Seventy five yards game against the Eagles,
that's the lowest the franchise is mustard since nineteen sixty one.
It is not sustainable. And if they don't do something,
here's something to watch. If they don't do something, you're
going to see the very few good players on that
team try to get out like Max Crosby and Brought Bowers,
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and that's basically it. That's the list of the great
players on that team.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Right now, what would you do, Mike, if you were
Brett Veach in Kansas City, would you just try to
just tweak it and play a drink yes, and play
to win in twenty twenty six, or would just say,
you know what, I'm going to use twenty twenty six
as a time to tear it down, let Patrick Mahomes
get healthy, and then try to win a championship in
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twenty twenty seven when I've retooled everything.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
I think there's no such thing as a a full
rebuild in the NFL because if you try to do
that and you have a sufficiently bad season, that's when
ownership feels pressure to make changes. Now. I don't think
the Chiefs should ever consider involuntarily separating from Brett Veach
or Andy Reid, But this is one of those change
of tire on a moving car, and they've got the
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most important position covered. Look at all the teams out
there that are somewhat competitive and they just don't have
a quarterback. Think how bad the Chiefs would be if
they didn't have Patrick Mahomes. I think they need to
just do what they can to improve. They got to
hit on the draft picks. Those are young chief players
to become the nucleus if your team going forward, if
they become the contributors to the future, that's going to
dig you out of this. They need to make good
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decisions about who to keep, who to get rid of.
They got to spend wisely in free agency. All the while,
Patrick Mahomes is rehaving this injury, and look, he's already
attacking it. That's not a surprise. I who we expect
him to do everything in his power to be back
as quickly as possible. I just wonder whether or not
I mentioned Reid. You know, it's easy to stay on
the job deep into your sixties when it's moves sailing
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straight to the super Bowl every year, and they've been
to three straight and five out of six. Right, Well,
now that you have to, like I mean, and only
Andy Reid knows the answer to this question, but you're
far more likely to decide it's time when you're looking
at and if you're taking an honest assessment of where
your roster is and how much work needs to be
done because by the time we get to where we
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need to be, is it going to be time? And
does it make sense to handle a toon to someone else? Now,
that's for him to decide. That's only for him to decide.
And he's been coaching as a head coach since nineteen
ninety nine. It would be very, very difficult for him
to walk away from it. But this is I think
the first occasion since Patrick Mahomes arrived that it makes
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sense for him to take a step back and ask himself,
is it time or are we going to dig in
for what could be three four years before we're back
to what we were?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Well, Mike, before you go Mike Florial with us ProFootball
talk dot com, courtesy is simply Seattle. So this time
a year from now, when we have you on the
air and we're at asking you about Joe Burrow, are
we talking about Joe Burrow the Bengal or Joe Burrow
the something else?
Speaker 6 (17:06):
In a year from now, Well, Joe Son, you I'll
be dead by then.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Wow, Jeez, holiday.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Mor big, that's another old reference. If you get that
reference on top of the other one, then you can
be my friend and neither of you can be my
friend because you don't know what I'm talking.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I think you just now, I think you bring up
references that you know we're not going to get, so
that we won't be friends.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
By the way, that's I'm starting to understand this game.
Won't even if you got there.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
Listen, even if we got the reference, we wouldn't be friends.
It's funny because Joe Burrow had those comments last week
that we're very stunning, because you rarely get that kind
of candor. You get cliches guys, the internalized things. They
don't talk openly. He was so down last week and
he said he's not having fun and he wants to
have fun again. And it doesn't take a genius to
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start connecting dots back to the organization, which is notoriously cheap.
They didn't take the snow off the seats for crying
out loud this week and in violational league policy because
hey costs money to bring people in to take the
snow off the seats. And what he said today, when
I look at that, he is leaving the door open
a crack, and I think it's going to be a
delicate thing for him to do because you don't want
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everyone in Ohio to hate you. He's from Ohio. When
I wrote Playmakers four years ago, one of the things
I reported in there, and this is one hundred percent true,
and Bengals fans get triggered when I say it, But
I was told by someone in a position to know
if Joe Burrow was from Athens, Georgia and not Athens, Ohio,
he would have refused to play for the Bengals when
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they had the opportunity to draft him first overall in
twenty twenty. So we got to factor all that in,
and there was this flurry of reports last week, Oh,
he wants to stay, He's got to play the game.
And I think what he's trying to do in a
roundabout way, I think he kind of makes the Bengals
decide they're better off selling high that if he's on
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this downward trajectory and he's not happy, you're never going
to get more for him than you're going to get
right now. So that's the way to do it. You
make them think, and how don't we all been in
one of those relationships where we really want out. But
it would be a lot easier if you can convince
the other person to be the one to end it,
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like you know. I mean, I've probably had that trick
put on me a couple of times, but I know
I used it at least once, and it can be
very effective if you play it the right way. And
that may be what he's trying to do.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Mike Florio, great stuff, appreciate it. We'll see about next week.
Hopefully it work something I'll do Tuesday. I'll be okay,
done Tuesday. We'll talk to you Tuesday.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
You pay, you pay triple to rate holiday week holiday.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Give you a little holiday bonus, all right.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I'll give you a little extra matz of ball soup
with your Menora next week. Man, all right, great stuff, man,
enjoy the weekend seeing all right?
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Guy, Yeah, guy, davidly Row.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Yes, I do remember the reference we get as a
matter of fact, check no, hang on, check out this.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
You're like this rama. You know who that is. By
the way, that's you, Mike Florio with us.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
We're gonna break Mike McDonald Charles Cross bad news on
the Seahawk left tackle for tomorrow night Here from the
head coach. Next on ninety three three KJR FM from.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
The R and R Foundation, specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back
to SOFTI and Dick on Your Home for the Huskies,
Kraken and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety three point
three kJ r FM.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
All right, here we go, big big, big big. Did
I say big Wednesday? Right here on ninety three three
kJ r F M. I said big, big, big, big big.
Because I'm using that time. While I'm saying big, big,
big big, I have to figure out what day it is.
That's why I'm doing figure out what day, giving myself
a chance. I mean, it feels like a Tuesday could
be a Thursday, What day Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (21:02):
I actually I do that all the times. Very am
I the only one that does that?
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Why don't they play that commercial anymore?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
My camel's great, it's great.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I don't know I about the monkey with one Robotic
arm State Farm commercial? Remember that that played over and
over and over and over and over again. Is it
possible to get like Stockholm syndrome over radio commercials?
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Right?
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Like you for Kids fall in Love with your Captor.
I have heard the Cars for Kids commercials so many
times now that I actually might enjoy.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
I'm kind of with you.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I mean, it's just like a it's a dose of comfort, right, Yeah,
it's just familiarity.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
You know, everything's okay when you know.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
I mean, let me ask you a question. If you
got lost.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Somewhere and you finally found your way home and the
first thing you heard was the Cars for Kids commercial,
you'd be.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Like, I'm home.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I've made it.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I mean, it's it's played so often. I've gone from
hating it to loving. Mike McDonald seahawk head coach, what's
going on with Charles Cross Tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Night against the l A Rams.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Here's the coach talking about the short week, and stay
tuned because he addresses the Charles Cross situation very quickly here.
Speaker 9 (22:17):
Coming out of the last game, I think, and you
don't only have much time to do it. You know,
you're kind of turning the page pretty quickly. But the guy,
the guys know what we need to do and you
know how to do it. And I think, I think
that's the same feeling we have every week, honestly, just
trying to try and nail the process and doing what
we're doing and feel as prepared as we can.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
Going into the game.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Mike House, Charles done.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
He's actually I don't know, I don't have all the
updates for you, but he's he's not he's going to
be out to you know, tomorrow, So.
Speaker 7 (22:51):
I don't have a time frame for you. We're working
through it.
Speaker 10 (22:56):
For similar when you watch the last game you guys
played again, the Ramps, h there's the time between now
and then anything stand out to you, and reflecting on
that first game.
Speaker 7 (23:08):
We disappointed.
Speaker 9 (23:09):
My answer, I mean, I kind of just I think
I think we just take it very black and white,
like it's just you know, these are the plays that
we ran, this is how we played, and this is
what they did, and this is what they've done since,
and this is what we've done since.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
And then you try to kind of up.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
You kind of these are the guys that are available,
and we got a different you know, host of guys
that are available on both sides, and so you know,
you try to you try to make the best decision
you can on how you anticipate things going and things
that you want to you know, protect or attack or
you know that sort of thing. It's kind of you know,
you're it's a it's a four game sample since you played,
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which is a little bit you know, it's.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
You know, when you play teams the second time.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
There's a different spectrum of like how long those games
are in between sometimes, like you know, we play the Niners,
the whole season's worth. You know, it's hard to go
off that tape, but there's a lot off that tape,
you know, within four games that is probably.
Speaker 7 (24:11):
Probably relevant.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
Josh Josh with Josh starts, Oh yeah's gonna start.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
Let's be a neger qussion of what Josh has provided.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
For you with he.
Speaker 9 (24:24):
Was got most of his opportunities in in in preseason,
and he did a great job filling in for Charles
when he was going through uh his training camp stuff.
So it's just like everything else, you know, we've had,
We've had guys that have had to had that had
that have had opportunities throughout the season, and this is
this is no different. He's got a great opportunity, he's
prepared go out there and play your tail off.
Speaker 7 (24:46):
You know, let's go roll the same answer the same question.
Speaker 10 (24:50):
Has he primarily been practicing at left tackle or also
at right tackle.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
All over the Yeah, and he's like he's swing tackle
right now. So Alwa's practice at both.
Speaker 9 (24:58):
These short weeks always present major challenges, but it is
do you kind of relish the opportunity to go up
against somebody like Sean mcavay in this type of situation.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
And then it has been so good over the years
about switching.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
Things up, So I'm gonna get this question from now
until we uh, hopefully for a long time. It's just look,
it's the same there's I mean, Shawn's especially especially good
at what he does. He's one of the best to
do it, and if not the best.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
And but there's a lot every court.
Speaker 9 (25:31):
I mean, look that there's a lot of talented play
cards and a lot of talented schemes and a lot
of great players. And you see that every week, and
so every week has its own host of challenges that
you're trying to trying to work through as a football team,
you know.
Speaker 7 (25:43):
So in that.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
Regard, it's it's it's the same thing now, Like you know,
they have a certain way of operating and how things
that they play and how they build stuff and ways
that they attacked us in the past, and that's that's
the lens that you have to.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Oh, you got cut him off right there? Why not?
Speaker 6 (26:01):
What the heck?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I mean, we got what we needed. Let's just get
the heck out.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Wow, Charles cross out tomorrow night, not gonna play. Josh
Jones will start in his place. If you look at
the geeks at PFF, they say he's a much better
pass blocker than he is a run blocker.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
But I mean, guys, let's face it, this is a
blow right.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I mean, come on, We're talking about not having your
starting left tackle, for God's sakes, versus a guy in
Josh Jones who was taking fifty six snaps the entire
season at that position, so against that defensive front. There's
no way to sugarcoat this and no way to paint
this as a positive. They're gonna have to figure it out.
This is why Clint Kubiak gets paid the amount of
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money he gets paid. It's why Sam Darnold's making thirty
five million bucks a year. It's why Kenny Walker and
Zach Charboney are here to go out and run the
football and maybe go away from that side potentially. But yeah,
I mean this is and the words are rich more
not good that Charles crosses out in this game tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
And no, I mean I we had grays Abel out
last game. He got injured in the Rams game, so
he started the Rams thin. So you have had a
stud offensive lineman out for a good chunk of a
game against Los Angeles, but it just it continues to
push me towards winner gets to twenty points. Man, I
mean the last game was twenty one to nineteen. I
really don't understand why the over under and this is
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forty five forty five and a half. I mean, unless
you get under, let's you get a defensive touchdown like
what is without DeVante Adams For the Rams without Charles Cross,
neither team should be able to run the ball very
well against the other team's defense, Like why should we
expect the team's gonna get to twenty seven well?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And also, to me real quick, I know if to
break here just reinforces my thoughts on what the Rams
are going to do defensively. I don't think it's going
to be a surprise to Clint Kubiak and Sam Donald
when they just come right at him and get in
his face like they did in Game one, and go
right at Josh Jones and go right at Sam Donald
and force him into fumbling the ball, throwing picks and
making mistakes. So I was on a mark today on
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his show, and I just said, look, man, you know
a lot of people go on the air and they'll
try to break this down. I mean, there's only one
guy that can really do that, and that's Hugh Millen
by the way. But you know, depending on the you know,
twelve personnel the Rams play or the Seahawks play against
the nickel package of the Seahawks defense. No, no, no,
you got a guy in Sam Darnold who threw four
interceptions in the first game and they were sixty one
(28:22):
yards away from winning the game on a field goal
by Jason Myers. So first, let's take care of the ball,
all right, don't do that. Okay, if you're Sam, dude,
you're making thirty five million.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Enough is enough.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Everyone's waiting for you to fart your pants off in
a big game like tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Prove them wrong. Don't turn the ball over, and the
Hawks should win this game. Tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
We're going to break a little fun with audio slash
hated you hear that maybe coming up on ninety three
to three KJRFM.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
It's now time for something in Dick's Fun with Audio.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
Jimmy g pawn Star, Jimmy mister Garoppolo.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
Now let's have some fun with audio.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
All right, here we go on a busy, busy, busy See,
I'm doing it busy Wednesday, he day, busy day. Right
here on ninety three three kg RFM. Petros Paparack that's
gonna join us, coming up at four o'clock this afternoon.
First time we've had him on since the Sharon More
thing came down as a matter of fact last week.
So his thoughts on all of that and more coming up,
(29:30):
Pete Carroll's future in Vegas. Petros joining us courtesy of
Sweet James in about twelve minutes from now. All right,
here we go a little fun with audio slash. Hey
did you hear that? Hey, Dick, did you happen to
hear that?
Speaker 2 (29:42):
What's that day?
Speaker 4 (29:43):
Here's that?
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Dick? On first take today.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Following the next big NBA Cup victory, Chris mad Dog
Russo had this to say to Nick fans, including Steven A. Smith,
that we're celebrating the win as a meaningful, significant piece
of hardware.
Speaker 11 (29:58):
Somewhere Watt Fraser and let Red and Red Holtzman are saying, really,
we're gonna celebrate this stupid thing, this inauthentic creation to
jazz up the regular season, which means absolutely nothing in
a big picture, and we're gonna celebrate this hats and
batters a challenge. This is like the World Baseball Classic,
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which I've always killed by the way I did with
Otani and Trout.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
So I'm consistent.
Speaker 11 (30:22):
This is stupid, This is this is not authentic, and
you're gonna sit there and tell me that this is
something significant. I fabricated event when Wimbyama play twenty minutes,
I mean, are we gonna do this now?
Speaker 3 (30:35):
I mean, you must keep kidding me.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
All right, So, first of all, I don't think it's
comparable at all to the World Baseball Classic. The World
Baseball Classic is an international tournament that is basically the
Olympics of baseball, and the players love it. Okay, this
is not the NBA Cup. It's two totally different things.
But having said that.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I agree with them.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
I don't see any real significance of the NBA Cup.
But I'm also fifty two years old and this is
brand new to me. Right, Like some ten year old
kid or six year old kid, Dick, all they do
is grow up with the NBA Cup. Maybe one day
they'll think it's awesome, and if it gets people to
engage in the NBA, and it gets players to give
a damn about games in December, then.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I don't know whatever it's getting people a to talk
about games in December, right, it is getting superstars to
play games in decision.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Which is ridiculous that you have to do. That is true, That.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
Is true, ridiculous. They played their stars the whole game.
What stupid comment by mad Dog about Wemby. Does he
not realize he's two games off an injury. He played
twenty one minutes against Oklahoma City on Saturday, he played
twenty five minutes against the next That's as much as
he was going to play.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
And his grandmother died by the way.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Yes, I mean, what ridiculous comment by mad Dog to
bring up minutes.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
I think.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I think, well, first of all, I think if it
was a significant tournament like the NBA Playoffs, is there
a better chance than not that Wemby is sucking it
up and playing thirty five to forty minutes if this
is Game seven of the Western Conference Final.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yes, But my point is if this wasn't the NBA Cup,
he probably wouldn't have played as many minutes as he did.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
I think that's Chris's point though, that because it's not significant,
it's why people aren't really going out there and giving
an A plus effort to be on the floor. It
doesn't mean that much to these guys. I think Wemby's
minutes kind of shows that a little bit. If this
was I look, if he's hurt and he can't go,
then whatever, Game seven, Conference Finals, NBA Finals, he's playing,
(32:36):
he's sucking it up and he's getting out there. But
for the NBA Cup, with how many more months of basketball?
Six months of basketball left to go, he's not going
to risk injury. Well, no way, I mean, nor should he.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
By the way, the Knicks rotation, yeah, looks to me
like an NBA Finals minutes rotation. Well, we only played
eight players, Og, Karl Anthony, Towns, Jalen Brunson, mckill, Bridges.
They all played thirty plus zho oj Og played forty.
Jalen bruns have played forty one minutes. It means more
to the next than it does the Spurs.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
I mean, it means so much to the Knicks that
they're not even hanging a banner. They said, we don't
need a banner. We're not doing it.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
I do think the.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Boss did it, the Lakers did it.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Look I mean, I think I think we can disagree
on this, that there are reasons to do it. There's
also reasons to agree with Russo that it's nothing significant whatsoever.
There's a gimmick to get NBA players who are paid
millions of dollars a year to actually do their jobs
in the month of December. And that's a sad state
(33:36):
of affairs, but it's reality.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
I agree we shouldn't put a banner up for the
NBA Cup, but I think the people that are really
have a problem with it are.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Just complaining for complaining's sake.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Let's let's get one more before the break. Hey Dick,
did you happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Let's go to his partner, go back to number one there.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Anders also on First Take today, steven A, we gave
Russo air time. It's like the presidential race got to
give both sides airtime. Steven A talking about what the
Raiders need to do to become relevant again.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
They say, what happens.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
In Vegas stays in vasas.
Speaker 12 (34:12):
But the Raiders are so awful right now, the stinch
has circulated throughout the country, every football city, every football
city recognizes how awful they have been. Put Tom Brady
in charge. Mark Davis just hand over the whole. I
don't care about him being just a part owner. Handover
football operations to Tom Brady. Okay, not that you can,
(34:34):
because he's not going to leave the job. That he's
got a Fox paying him over thirty seven million dollars
to run the damn Raiders.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
He ain't stupid at all, but.
Speaker 12 (34:43):
Ask him anyway, figure out something, because you need all
the help you can get.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
The Raiders are awful. Geno Smith said.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Geno Smith, excuse me, has the thirty second best QBR
in the NFL, and there's thirty three players that have qualified.
You know who's thirty third behind? Geno Smith said, cam
Ward is thirty three. So I think that a big
reason why the Raiders are where they're at is because
of the way Geno Smith has played. Now, I haven't
watched every Raider game, don't know about the offensive line,
(35:14):
don't know about everything else around him. I mean, he's
got Bowers, he's got Jenny and Max Crosby, and that
really is kind of.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
It in Vegas.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
But Pete Carroll trusted Geno Smith to get him through
year one as the Vegas Raiders head coach, and I
don't know he's has he let him down?
Speaker 3 (35:33):
I don't know. I don't I don't watch.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Enough Raider football to know who's to blame for the
offense being miserable in Vegas. I just know the numbers
Dick show that Gino Smith has been terrible, and a couple.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Of games that I've seen them, their offensive line gets
blown off the ball every single play. Ashton gent gets
the handoff and usually he's wrapped up behind the line
of scrimming.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Where's he gonna go exactly?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
But yeah, Geno's been Gino's been horrible.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
But that's what's gonna happen when you use your first
high first round draft pick YEP on a height end
in a running back in back to back years.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Guess what your trenches are gonna suck?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Did you see the amount of times that Sam Donald
has been sacked compared to Gino Smith.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Sam Donald has been sacked eighteen times.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Anybody want to guess how many times Gino Smith has
been taken down forty nine times?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Forty nine times?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
All Right, we're gonna break Petros joins Next on ninety
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