December 22, 2025 • 37 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Hugh Millen visit with Huskies legendary QB Michael Penix Jr, talking about his time at UW, latest injury, and much more, then visit with Carolina Sideline Reporter Sharon Thorsland, previewing Seahawks vs Panthers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's get to a guy that many people would argue
is the goat of all time of Washington quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Pennix, out of the shotgun, takes the snap, he looks,
he throws.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It's cut by Quint More. Touchdown Washington. The Huskies take
the nine point lead.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Heennix takes a snap, looking to throw. He's gonna fire, and.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's cut by Roman Judy. Unbelievable. A fastball.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Nnix takes a shotgun step, he drops back to pass
in the pocket.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
He's gonna launch it down.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
The field for Jalen Polk, who catches at the twenty
yard line. Snap Pennix to throw, goes for the end
zone off the left sideline.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Grow about to side, touchdown Washington forward stowed up out
of the scoreboard.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
A Heisman moment for Michael Pennix. It's never ever gonna
get old.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Is it humilling here in those highlights Magic ever from
two thousand three?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, yeah, Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
The architect of all that is joining us now on
the radio show. It's been a minute, it's been a minute,
but he's back on the air with us. One of
the all time greats, if not the greatest. Second place
in the Heisman Trophy in twenty twenty three, twenty five
and three at DUB three and zero against the Oregon
Ducks and maybe the greatest of all time. Our old
(01:19):
friend Michael Pennix joining us right now on the radio program, Mike, how.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Are you man?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
It's softy and here. What's going on?
Speaker 5 (01:26):
How you doing? I'm doing great. Excited to be on
the show with you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Oh god, it's great to have you back on the show.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
When you hear those highlights, by the way, what goes
through your mind thinking about all those great moments in
that twenty twenty three season. Was there one highlight, one
favorite moment for you honestly during that year that stands out?
Speaker 7 (01:48):
I definitely say the favorite moment was obviously being Oregon.
You know, that's always that's always one of the best moments.
And then obviously with the fans storm of the field
is awesome. But you know, just hearing stuff, it just
brings back a lot of memories and uh, and it's
it's super excited to to be able to be a
part of that. And I'm just blessed to be a
part of.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Mike has Hugh and and I really enjoyed our conversation
at that u w QB event for the spring game,
uh last spring, but uh, you know it, while you're
we're playing those highlights, I'm reminded during that time there
was a lot of Husky fans that had questions about
your injury status.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Uh you know you're over you know, in.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
That that booth and and uh just kind of some
of the way you had to maybe conceal some uh
some injuries.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
My senior year.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
At Washington, I had a sc external clovicular separation that
I had to play with for about seven games. I mean,
we all kind of have to do that at the position, right,
But but but now we can come clean, right, It's
it's well passed the limitation, right, Like, like just tell
us all so we can just like exhale. What what
(03:00):
if anything was happening with you health wise? What were
you battling during the end of that twenty twenty three season.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
I wasn't really battling anything health wise, you know, I
just feel like it was just a tough stress of
the season. But I know at the same time, you
know everybody, everybody's going through it. You know, you get
the you know, the sickness that go around, you know,
late in the season, but that that all comes with it.
So it's it's no excuses to you know what what
went down.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
But at the end of the day, it.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
Was just you know, obviously being it was excited to
be able to pull off all those wins and doing
what we did. Obviously I couldn't do it out you know,
the rest of the guys. So it's it's something it's
something that's really nothing, you know, It's it's just it
wasn't really good football being played at that time, but
we did enough to win.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Right and you know, we we have such amazing memories
of that Texas game and and what you were able
to accomplish through the air and what have you. Now
that you've had a couple of years to kind of
have a reflection about it, do you do you revel
more in the Texas game? Where or how much does
the Michigan game just stick in your craw Like, like,
(04:07):
where are you with that? You mentioned Oregon, but what
about those last couple of games in the CFP, you know,
just battling right there with a chance to win that title.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
Yeah, I mean first and foremost, you know, it was
it was just great to be able to be in
that position.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
You know. I feel like at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Around camp time and I said that, you know it
to a win national championship. I feel like that, you know,
not not too many people believe that, you know, across
the world. So it's for us to even be in
a position to you know, have a chance at doing
that and obviously going undefeated in the regular season and
you know, winning our first playoff game, you.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Know, it was Yeah, Mike Pennick says with us and Mike,
before we move on to some stuff around the NFL,
let me just go back to those to those days
that you do Ian. You mentioned the Oregon win, Man,
when you look back on it seven and oh against
Oregon Wazoo in Oregon State three and oh against the
Orgon Docs. I don't know how many Oregon teammates you
have right now with you on the Falcons down there,
(05:05):
But honestly, how proud are you of that that, no
matter what you do in your life and your career,
you can honestly go to bed every night saying you
never lost to Oregon.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Man, that makes me, it's super excited, because it's crazy
because the first thing I heard whenever I stop up
on campus was like, we do not lose to Oregon,
We do not lose to Wazoo.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Like these are the two teams that we hate.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
We want to go out there and you know, beat
them every single time we played. So for us to
be able to do that and for me to be
able to say that for the rest of my life,
like those two years, I haven't lost to them teams,
you know, it's definitely awesome.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Michael Pennick's with us and Mike, let's let's transition to
your days now as a Falcon and so many of
us are our heart Just you know, what was extended
to you when we heard about the injury. Obviously you
have already been a model for perseverance that having come
back from two acls and shoulder injuries to have that
(06:00):
or where you were second in the Heisman, But what
was this latest injury like for you just kind of
mentally just take us through the process of being an
NFL quarterback and sustaining that injury, particularly in light of
the injuries you've had in your past.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Yeah, So it was this crazy because you know, obviously
with my past and you know, it's kind of happening again.
You know, it's it's crazy, but at the same time
kind of look at it, and you know, I just
try to take it into positive light and you know,
just trying to figure out what is it that you know,
I feel like God is, you know, trying to show
me something, and you know, I just got to con
see to trust to him and trusting his plan, and
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you know, whatever happens to me, you know, I know that.
You know, I've been through through this before. I've been
in these times before, and I always came back stronger,
so I definitely looked forward to coming back stronger from it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Well, I gotta tell you, man, nobody wants to see
any of this stuff happen to you because all of
us are pulling for your hardcore, right. I mean, it's
one thing to root for a guy in school, but
everybody is pulling for you hardcore in the NFL as well.
And I don't know what we did as dog fans,
Mike to deserve you being healthy for the two years
that you were here at Washington. I mean, it's it's
just unbelievable how those are the two years of your
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career that you were able to stay healthy. But like,
what's the reaction been like, talk talk to us about
Kirk Cousins. For example, right, you show up and you
compete for the job, and obviously he just signed a
brand new contract and there's all that conversation. What's what's
Kirk been like as a teammate and a friend and
a mentor to you behind the scenes, especially now that
(07:31):
you're dealing with another knee injury.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Yeah, for sure, he's been awesome, you know, since day one.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
You know, he's always be able to answer any questions
I had, and he was He's also open, open guy
as well. You know, he's a guy that you know,
he's like he asked me like sometime, hey, did you
see anything there? You know, in certain plays, And obviously
I'll do the same same with him, you know, because
I feel like we built a good connection and you know,
it's it's all love in a quarterback room. And I'm
(07:57):
just super blessed to be a part of us. Has
to be able to be behind him last year and
just you know, just kind of learned and you know,
just see how he carries hisself, see how he leads
a team, and it was awesome to see and it's
awesome to be a part of. But he's been great
and ever since my injury, he did reach out and
you know, just checked in on me, and you know,
he also sent me some stuff as well, so he's
(08:18):
been great.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I'm curious as a guy who's either played or observed
the position quarterback for a long time now fifty plus years,
it strikes me how difficult it is, as evidenced by
how few people can do it really, really well. You
did it at the highest level in college, You've had
(08:40):
a number of opportunities where you've played, you know, near
that level in the pros. What is the biggest change
from college football to playing professional football at that position.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
I'll say the biggest thing, you know is, you know,
at the end of the day, you know, it's still football.
You know, I feel like, you know, you hear everybody
say like everything is moving faster and stuff like that,
and yeah, it does feel like that when you first
get in. But you know, as you get those reps
and you continue to build those reps and build that confidence,
you know, you get to it and you know, I
feel like I'm comfortable and I got used to it.
(09:17):
But it's definitely a different process, And obviously, I feel
like the biggest thing is the off season. You know,
it's like not even in season when we're throwing and stuff,
but the off season it's like you're on your own.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
You know.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
In college, you got that schedule, it's like, Okay, you're
still you got runs this day at this time.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Like now it's like you have to do that yourself.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
You have to go find somewhere to train and somebody
to train with, and you got to do it all yourself.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
So I feel like that's the biggest difference.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, was there kind of an AHA moment for you
in the NFL? I mean, my my AHA moment for you?
What you dub by the way I tell you exactly
the game it was. It was when you hammered Michigan,
stayed at home in your first year at you dub
and here comes this kid from Indiana, nobody knows a
lot about them, and then you show up heer and
just slice up the Spartans at Husky Stadium. We're all going, man,
(10:04):
we might have something pretty good freaking legiti here.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
On our hands.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So that was kind of my AHA moment for you
with you Dubb. Was there one of those moments for
you so far in the NFL, or you really said
to yourself and you felt like, you know what, no problem,
I can do this.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I got this.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
Yeah, I would say it was just one moment, but
I definitely feel like, you know, there's different moments that
build up to you know, that confidence, Like like I say,
you know, just those reps and you know, each and
every day just seeing myself like get better. It's like, Okay,
I did I made a mistake this day and the
next day I'm I'm correcting it and I'm making the
completion where I need to go, and you know, so
I feel like there's more of a build up.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
It never had. It was never like oh I got
it like right away. It was like each and every
day I felt like I was getting better and better.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Well, unfortunately you got a little bit more time than
you would otherwise have. You know, as you're getting through
this injury, which gives you some time to watch the
college football playoff? Are you a fan in that regard?
And specifically, I know we're gonna ask you about Indiana
or your Hoosiers and being the number one seed, but
I want to ask you about Kaylen de Boor and
(11:12):
you know, just how you feel about him at Alabama?
What was your reaction. I'm not sure if you've ever
been asked that on the record. You know, when when
you left Kaylen left and uh and now he's uh,
you know, he's the head of Role Tide and and
do you find yourself you root for him? Like just
kind of what what about that? And and how you
feel about Alabama in this tournament?
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Yeah, for sure. I'm I'm definitely a big coach to
boors fan. You know, I feel like wherever he goes,
whatever team he's leading, I'm a big fan of him.
You know, the person and the man that he is.
You know, I feel like he gave me opportunity. You know,
whenever I came to you. You know, we only spent
one year together and at Indiana and it was an
(11:56):
awesome year, but you know, he we didn't really have
a strong connection like that. But for him to be
able to give me opportunity and believing in me and
you know, believing in my abilities even after I came
off of multiple season and injuries, it was just it's
just somebody that I can't forever, you know, have love
for and you know, appreciate for for that, So I'll
definitely yeah coach a divorce fan.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, I'd say you guys are pretty beneficial to each other.
There's no doubt the impact that you had on him
and vice versa was obvious. But it's interesting, like hearing
you talk like that, Michael Pennock's with us that when
you had the one year together at Indiana that you
weren't really that tight, and then all of a sudden
he's calling you to see if you'll transfer to Washington
to play for him as his head as his head coach.
(12:39):
So what was it about that that made sense? And
I got to ask you. I've always wanted to ask
you this, and now we got a chance to ask you.
If it wasn't for Washington, who was your number two
choice behind you dub if you were to transfer out
of Indiana.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (12:54):
So, uh, I said my number two choice. I didn't
really have a number two choice. You know, it's crazy
because I only visited, but I only visited two teams.
So I actually visited u CF and on my visit
to u CF coach the board. Uh no, not on
my visit, but like after my visit from u CF,
I was able to you know, get up to you Dub.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
So I actually left from UCF and went up to
U Dub.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
And you know, once I once I got up to
you Dub, I watched all the you know tape on
the guys that that that was already there, you know,
all the receivers and stuff, and you know, I was like, oh, yeah,
these these are some really talented guys.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
And officin line was great, so I was like it
made sense.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
And then obviously knowing the offense and you know, just
I felt very confident Coach the Boy and his play calling.
And obviously I didn't know Coach Grub at that time,
but that's when I met Coach Grub, and Coach the
Boy was like I trust him, Like he's gonna call
the plays and you know, I'm gonna love it, and
you know, I trusted in those guys.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
In these days, it seems like there's more Heisman Trophy
winners all Americans at the quarterback position who transferred U
than who didn't. I mean, Mendoza wins the Heisman. He
was a transfer bo Nicks, all right, right, So in
that situation, uh, does the does the head coach do
they tell you like, hey, you come here you're the
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starter automatically or do they say, hey, we think you'll
be the starter, Like, like, what's the communication with respect
to that.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
No, So when I talked to Coach the Boy, it
was obviously Deli Morris. He was the starting.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Quarterback there the previous year, and you know you had
Sam as well. He were in obviously you know, he
was a very very good quarterback coming out of high school.
So whenever I got there, like before I even signed
a committee, you know, Coach the Boy told me, he's like,
you're gonna have to compete for the job.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
You know, it's nothing was gonna be given. So each
and every day it was a competition.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
We you know, they kept track of each and every throw,
kept track of our completion percentages, our turnovers and stuff
like that, and you know they made that decision at
the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Well, Michael Penick's well us and Mike when they got
to run to dinner out there and Atlanta. Man, it's
great to hear your voice and hope we can catch
you up more often. Man, But I got to ask
you before you go, have you had a chance to
watch Demand Williams play at all? And if so, what
do you make of his game, Have you had a
chance to speak with demand at all, and and kind
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of be a mentor to him, because there's a club,
right there's a next Husky club that you and Hugh
right here are obviously a part of, and Demon is
next in line in that club. So what's your take
on number two at Washington and have you had a
chance to get to know him at all?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Yeah, man, I'm very high on him.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
I feel like he's a very good quarterback and the
things that he can do, you know, not you know,
obviously in the pocket, but you know, you see the
things that he could do outside of the pocket as well.
But I do feel like he has a very good
arm and you know, he has some weapons around on
this year, those guys are making a lot of plays.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
So it's definitely awesome to see you.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
I'm definitely a big fan of him, and I reached
out to him a couple of times after the games
and stuff, you know, just now, you know, just congratulate him.
But we haven't had, you know, too much of a relationship,
but I definitely root for him. And you know, whoever,
whoever's back to quarterback or any position with the Huskies.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
And one more as we let you go. Mike's been
great to visit with you. Who are you rooting for
in the Rose Bowl? Alabama or Indiana?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Wow, I'm just I'm just rooting for football. I don't
got no choice.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
How about this? How about this? Let me rephrase it.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
If Indiana wins and they play Oregon in the semi final,
who do you pull for in that game?
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Anybody but Oregon?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I love it? I love it? All right, Mike, you're
the man. Thanks for doing this, buddy, Enjoy the rest
of your night. Good luck with the rehab. Can't wait
to see you back on the field, and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Man, all right, thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
You got it, Michael Pennox with us anybody but Oregon?
I love it.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
The guy was here for two years, and it took
him two years to realize how much you're supposed to
hate the Oregon Ducks. It didn't take him two years.
I took him about a month and a half. By
the way, when he first showed up. You're right, all
right here, let's do this. We'll get a break. Sharon
Thorsland's the sideline reporter for the Carolina Panthers. Next up
for the Seahawks, they're fighting for the NFC South Championship
by the way down there.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
And Charlotte, we'll talk to her.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Rich Gannon, the two thousand and two NFL MVP, he's
gonna join us at five. We got to talk about
the big news involving DK metcalf man as well, coming
up on a busy Monday with Softie and Hugh and
Jackson right here on ninety three three KJARFM from the
R and R.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back to Softie and Dick
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Speaker 1 (17:40):
All right, let's to get to you on a busy Monday
right here on ninety three three KJARFM.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
You milling in for Nick Fine today, who's got the
day off? Yes, it's true, this man has no Dick.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Get to the DK metcalf conversation in a moment. Michigan,
in case you haven't noticed, still does not have a
football coach, so we'll get to that coming up as well.
Seahawks and Carolina though on Sunday, And really there's only
one person we turned to here when it comes to
analysis of the Carolina Panthers because she's the only one
that always says yes. She says yes when everybody else
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says no. Our longtime friend WBT, sideline reporter for the
Carolina Panthers, R O Pal talking about the upstart Carolina
Panthers sharing Thorsland with us on the radio program Sharon,
Happy Holidays.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
How are you the same?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
To you?
Speaker 8 (18:24):
I'm great things. How about you?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
We're good? This feels like our annual conversation. I don't
know what it is.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
The Seahawks and Panthers seem to play every frigging year,
for God's sakes, and here we are again talking about
another another contest between these two teams in a game that,
I'll be honest with you a couple of months ago
looked like maybe a bit of a cakewalk for the Hawks.
But eight and seven now fighting for the NFC South Championship.
How surprised are you that we're talking about Carolina being
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in this position right now?
Speaker 8 (18:53):
Yeah, I must admit I think pretty much everybody around
here is pretty surprised. I mean, I did think that
the Panthers would have this season in the year two
hunder Daves Canalis, but certainly not to this extent to
be fighting for the playoffs. I mean currently the Panthers
are number one in the NFC South right now, but
still got another big game coming up against the Bucks
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after the Seahawks that will actually determine pretty much to
who's going to end up in a playoff for So yeah,
I'm pretty surprised that they ended up at this point,
and I'm very pleasantly surprised, very happy, and yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
You bet, I would imagine. So what areas of the
football team have improved that have led this surge?
Speaker 8 (19:32):
Well, I mean the play of Bryce Young, I think
has been huge. Uh, he's still looking for some consistency,
but he has been He's improved drastically since last year
with his ability to read defenses to create some plays.
He's being more patient, He's got a great rapport, great
chemistry with our rookie receiver Teterro McMillan. Jalen Cocher also
has come on strong, our second year receiver, so that's
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been tremendous. And the play of the offensive line has
also been huge, turning it around for me a year
ago when they were absolute dead last worse than the league.
Have really come on and played much much better this year.
I had a lot of key additions in the draft
of Derek Brown coming back healthy was huge. Of course,
also brought in some free agents that have really helped
our cause. So I think those two things really to
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play Bryce Young and then the defense turning things around
is the key.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Sharon.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I haven't taken a look yet, and I figured I
would just rely on your expertise. Why Google when I
can go to Sharon Thorsland directly? How big of a game,
honestly is this for Carolina? Because you beat Tampa Bay
last week, you got them next week in kind of
a unique situation, you play him twice in three weeks.
If you lose the game Sunday and you beat the Buccaneers,
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you're going to begin NFC South champions no matter what.
So how big a game is this truly for them?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
On Sunday?
Speaker 8 (20:47):
You know it's big because there is another way for
them to get into the playoffs, and that is if
they can beat Seattle. And if the Bucks lose to
Miami on Saturday, which is probably our Sunday, it is
probably not gonna have because I can't imagine the Bucks
losing four games in a row and Miami. It's sort
of the train wreck the Estates, so probably won't happen,
but no, and this team is treating this as yet
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another championship opportunities. They call it another playoff game. They've
sort of been in playoff mode for several weeks now,
trying to stay alive and stay in the hunt. So
they're not going to be cashing in and on this
game by any means, nor do they deserve to be
able to do that.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
At this point.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
They're still still trying to become a good football team,
still trying to get to consistency. However, I think most
of the fans out there would be happy if they
did lose to the Teahawks, because that's been the Panther's
trend now for months. Win one, lose one, win one,
lose one, win one, lose one. So after the Bucks
win yesterday, they need to lose the Seahawks and then
get back on track with beating the Bucks in the
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game that really counts them. As you said, for the
NFC South.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Well, we're here's to hoping. We're hoping here that it
continues that way and that you'll lose one because you
just won one. Last weekend, right, but when we see
the Bucks, I know, I think it shocked a lot
of people. I mean, some of the most incredible wins
of the NFL this year, shocking maybe early on, you
know at Green Bay and then beating the Rams like
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those are two of the handful of best wins in league.
And yet you turn around and then lose the Saints
in the middle of all that. So when the Panthers
have been poor and and you're shaking your head, what
is it about them that you see that's leading to
those losses?
Speaker 8 (22:26):
A big thing penalty, it's self inflicted woes mainly when
if they play like they're capable of playing and play
good football, they clearly can beat anyone. When they do
the silly things and you know, the lack of focus
and the dumb mistakes and the penalties or you know,
the dropped passes, things like that, that's been when they lose,
and it's it's definitely it seems like it's more of
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a mental thing. They've got plenty of talent on this
football team. They just don't have the consistency right now
that Dave Canalis is looking for. And then when they
don't have the focus and have the silly mistakes and
the things that just shoot themselves in the But that's
been why they've been losing. It has not been, i think,
for anything any other reason now. And coach Cannel will
be the first one to tell you some of those
mistakes were hit like when they didn't run the football
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when they've got a hot Rico' daddle and they've got
out to San Francisco after whipping up on the Falcons
in Atlanta, they go out to San Francisco against a
very good passing defense and decide they're just going to
try to pass ball all day instead of run. When
you've got to Hubbard and Rico Daddle. So he's made
some mistakes on the way too that he will certainly,
you know, take his medicine for. So it's things like
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that that have caused them to lose.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Like that game.
Speaker 8 (23:33):
They should have won that game, and they had three
picks in the first half yea at San Francisco. So
you know, it's pretty much the self inflicted wounds. I
think that have been their biggest achilles hill when they've
been in their losses this season.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Well, I'm looking at if I'm not mistaken, the last
time the Seahawks lost to Carolina. I think Sam Darnold
was the quarterback in twenty twenty two, three years ago,
so you as you look back on your time was
so when you covered him in Carolina and.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
You see what he's become.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
How surprised we just talked to you about how surprised
you are about the Panthers competing for a division. I mean, Sharon,
Sam Donald has more wins than anybody in the last
two years as a starting quarterback, and he's the first
QB in the history of the NFL to win twelve
games or more two years in a row with two
different teams. How surprised are you that that's the guy
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that we're talking about that you saw up close and
personal three years ago.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
Yeah, I mean I would be lying if I said
I wasn't surprised. Yeah, I mean, it was a bad
situation here, and needless to say, with when Matt Ruhle
was here, and we also had Taker Mayfield and Sam
Donald at one point, so you know, it was just
a bad situation all the way round. Of both of
those guys have gone off to have tremendous success. I
did not see that coming with Sam Donald I admit that,
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but I am so happy for him, but loved covering him.
He was a great guy here, wonderful to work with,
the guys, loved him on the tea. He was a
class act all the way around, and he was just
in a bad situation here, as was you know, Baker,
and just fedivery on the team at that point. So
I love it for Sam that he's been able to
go and have the kind of success he has, and
I think he's been in a great spot out there
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with you guys in Seattle. So I'm happy for him.
I just wanted to not maybe have that same success
against Panthers this weekend.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Sharon Thorson with us, the sideline reporter for the Panthers.
I want to drill down on Dave's question because I
have said here locally that November twenty seventh, twenty twenty
two was kind of I don't say that a seminal
moment on that day, but that's the point where Sam
Darnold's career went in a different direction because he had
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sat for those eleven games the first time in his career.
He sat those eleven games, and then he started with
the last six games he went four and two, and
then he went to San Francisco, course went on to
Minnesota and we know the rest of it. But was
there something that you picked up as a reporter there
that Sam was able to acquire while being on that bench,
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Because the first time he went back in as a starter,
he's been lights out And Dave said the winning this
quarterback in the last two years. Hell, since that date
that I said, in twenty twenty two, over four seasons,
four different teams, he also has the highest win percentage
of any quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
So what about that.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Twenty twenty two year do you remember that might have
been really pivotal for Sam Darnold?
Speaker 8 (26:28):
You know, I think it was, you know, the classic
chip on the shoulder kind of thing. I think he
was really really frustrated to be sitting like that and
had something to prove, and when he got the chance
to go back out there, that's exactly what he did.
I think a lot of guys can benefit from sitting
on the bench. Price Young certainly did last year. But
I think in Sam's instance, he had never had a
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true shot, like a good shot with a good team
around him, and I think that sitting on the bench
was just such a motivator for him. He would just
really wanted to go out there and prove the doubters
wrong and show that he belonged as a starter in
this league. And he just had this like this determination
about him when he came back out there. And then
you start winning and start building that confidence again, and
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you know, guys certainly rallied around him. So that's the
biggest thing that I saw from him. And then, like
he said, he's just taken off ever since then, and
the confidence is certainly there again, and he knows that
he's an excellent quarterback in this league. But I do
think that it started with when he was on the bench.
I think that that frustration and that that extra motivation,
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that chip on the shoulder really came out in him
in those last couple of games of the season.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Well, it's going to be fun on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It might be a scenario where whichever team can avoid
the letdown this weekend is going to win, right Carolina
coming off the high of the Tampa Bay win, the
Seahawks coming off the high of the stupid comeback against
the Rams on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
And I thot, Yeah, that was incredible.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, so whatever team can avoid the letdown. But big game,
no doubt with these two teams. And never thought back
in some it'd be as big as it is. But
it's gigantic. So great stuff, Sharon, enjoy the rest of
the holidays and have fun.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Sunday we'll talk down the road.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
Great, thanks so much, Thank you, guys.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
You bet.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Sharon Doorsland, the voice sideline voice of the Carolina Panthers.
All right, we're gonna break man, oh Man, DK Metcalf,
Holy hell, we'll come back and shout about it. Been
suspended two games by the NFL Hugh for taking a
swing at a fan during the Lion Steeler game on Sunday.
Did the NFL get it right? Does it matter what
fans say to players at all? Or is the onus
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always going to be one hundred percent on the player
to not respond. We'll come back and chat about it
next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
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Speaker 1 (28:55):
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Speaker 5 (29:02):
This man has no Dick.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Right here on ninety three three kJ A RFM. Question
is what do you hear more between now and seven o'clock?
That drop right there? Or the PayPal commercial between now
and seven pm?
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I mean, it's just insane.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
If you have not learned by now the best way
to send money during the holiday season is with PayPal,
then you will never ever ever learn. Guys, I think
we all need to sing go your own way together.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Oh, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Well is that Will Ferrell by the way, Yeah, that's
Will Pharaoh. Well, Hugh Millin's with us until seven o'clock.
If you miss Michael Pennix by the way, great to
catch up with him. We'll give that to you. Come
up six pm. Actually we're going till six thirty because
we got cracking ducks coming up. Pregame six thirty, face
off at seven. We're all of a sudden, the boys
have the worst record, tied for the worst record in
the NHL. After such a strong start, they have totally
(29:50):
fallen apart. We'll hear the game coming up? Is is
mikey be doing radio tonight? Right Mike Betton again continues
to realize his childhood dream by calling radio in the NHL.
He'll be obviously on the call tonight at seven o'clock
from the Pond, Hugh. Lots of stuff to talk about.
(30:10):
Last time we had you on Friday. It was great
timing because it was that unbelievable classic comeback against the
Rams on Thursday night. Now we have another incident involving
DK Metcalf and this has been now resulted in him
getting suspended for a couple of games. He can appeal it.
We'll see what happens. But the story is that during
(30:31):
the Lions Steeler game yesterday DK Metcalf was said something
to him by this fan wearing this you know, blue
wig or whatever the hell it is, pomp palm on
his head. DK walks over, the guy leans towards DK,
says something, and DK takes a swipe at him. DK
has claimed people that represent him have claimed that he
(30:53):
used a racial slur dropped a c next Tuesday on
him regarding his mother. The fan come out and said
none of that's true at all, by the way, so
I guess it's a question of who you believe. But
the NFL has said, whether we believe you or not, whatever,
you're suspended for a couple of games. So I guess
before we talk about all the different tentacles, if you will, Hugh,
(31:15):
that come along with this story, what was your reaction
to seeing that incident involving DK yesterday and the suspension today.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Very appalled to see it. Inexcusable, zero defense of that.
I think two games seemed right. You kind of just
look and say, oh, they got two games left and
they're likely to make the playoffs, so it seemed like
two regular season games seems about right. I mean, look,
fans are part.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Of the structure of sports.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
And they buy the tickets, they fund the salaries, they
create the game day atmosphere. Athletes agree implicitly and explicitly
to operate with any controlled environment and a controlled violence
only between players, and you break that that covenant, you
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break the trust and sports can't operate.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
And so it is.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
It is no excuse, It is no defense about what
a fan may have said. Fans say stupid things, they
say mean things, they say evil things, they say racist things,
they say a lot of reprehensible things. That is a
problem with the security at the stadium. That is baked
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into sports. That's just part of the deal.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Athletes are paid to absorb this provocation without reacting physically.
David and I just think that it is not the
athlete's place to police the fans and so and you know,
you just think about there's twenty two hundred and forty
players in the NFL, the vast majority of which are
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here to play by the rules right, and there is
an economic impact to the actions of like what DK
said that brings everybody else down. It paints everybody in
the league with a brush they don't want to be
painted in. Most players don't want to be paid, even
former players.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
We you know, my pension which I haven't elected to
receive yet, but my pension is tied to the financial
success league. So even you know, no, I'm just not
even a mist in the ocean from the NFL. But
every current and former player is somehow tied to the
actions of current players in matters such as this.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
So I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
I I if, in fact there was a racist epithet,
that's discussing it's important. I can't you know, I can't
imagine in twenty twenty five that a fan would want
to come up to a black professional athlete and just
use the the shield of being in the stands and
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figure that he can act like that to another human being,
another black human being. But as as disgusting and reprobate
as that is, you still can't do what DK did.
So I don't have any equivocation on this.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I'm very FIRMA, yeah, no, I get I think it's
I it's a fair take.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I mean again, I've known you for a long time now,
where a friendship is going on twenty five plus years,
and if there's one thing that I've learned from you,
it's that you know two truths can exist at the
same time, and reasonable minds can disagree. Right, And I
agree with a lot of what you're saying, and I
totally see your side and your perspective, and I would
probably here to be honest with you, generally agree with
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that right and side towards what you are saying that
outside of somebody actually being on the receiving end of
some sort of violence meeting, a fan jumps out of
the stands and starts attacking a player, points a weapon
of a player, whatever, things like that that are so
obviously off the charts insane that you don't even really
(35:08):
think about it. There really is no there's no place
for any player to put their hands on a fan.
I mean, I think about actually, the one time in
my life where I have felt completely uncomfortable and queasy
as a sports fan was when I watched the Mallets
at the Palace back in the day with the Pistons
and those fights. Remember that that spilled over into the
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crowd at that basketball game.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
It was disgusting watching that.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
And so that's the last thing anybody obviously wants to see.
I do I do wonder though, and I just think
there's a conversation and maybe we circle back to it
when it's all said and done, you and you go
back to your original commentary and the top of the pyramid,
the base of the mountain, whatever, and you have the
take you have, and that's the take you have, and
that's totally fine. Is there any room for fans to
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receive anything like what DK Metcalf did, depending on what
flies out of a fan's mouth. Like Ross Tucker, for example,
went on The Dan Patrick Show today and basically said,
fans can say whatever they want. They can say whatever
they want, and there's no place at all for what
DK Metcalf.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Did, And I think I would probably agree with that.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
But like you know, to tell Marte, who plays for
the Diamondbacks, was the victim of a fan last year.
You guys may have heard of this that was screaming
at him about his dead mother and he had to
just deal with that and walk off the field in tear.
Security ended up handling it when it was all said
and done, but he had no choice but to just
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sit there and deal with it. So is there is
there any room at all? Is there any conversation to
be had whatsoever? That depending on what came out of
the mouth of the fan, there is a situation where
maybe what DK Metcalf did is justified. And again I
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would probably generally say no, I'm just throwing it out
there for the sake of the argument and sake of
the conversation with me.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Hugh, Okay, well, I understand, hang on.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
A second time out because we gotta get a break here.
I don't even know if I believe what DK's saying.
I mean, if I'm DK Metcalf and I wanted to
wiggle my way out of.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
This, that's exactly what I would say.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I would just say, Hey, the guy was doing this,
he was doing that, he was saying this, he was
saying that, and the NFL would go back and ask
for witnesses or if people sitting right next to this
guy in the front row of Ford Field, they'd ask him,
did you hear this?
Speaker 6 (37:25):
No?
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Anybody else hear that?
Speaker 6 (37:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Well, I'm sorry Dk. The other part of the problem
with DK metcalf and you know this as well as anybody.
His reputation kind of precedes him a little bit.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
He's known as a bit of as a bit of
a hothead, a bit of a hothead. He's been emotional
about stuff, and I wonder if some of that played
a role in the NFL's quick decision to suspend him.
So we'll come back and talk chat about this a
little bit. I think you We're going to have this
conversation and I'm going to just pretty much agree with you,
but I do want to hear your perspective on that
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as an ex athlete. Next on ninety three three KJARFM
Let's get to a guy that many people would argue
is the goat of all time of Washington quarterbacks.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Pennix, out of the shotgun, takes the snap, he looks,
he throws.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It's cut by Quint More. Touchdown Washington. The Huskies take
the nine point lead.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Heennix takes a snap, looking to throw. He's gonna fire, and.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's cut by Roman Judy. Unbelievable. A fastball.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Nnix takes a shotgun step, he drops back to pass
in the pocket.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
He's gonna launch it down.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
The field for Jalen Polk, who catches at the twenty
yard line. Snap Pennix to throw, goes for the end
zone off the left sideline.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Grow about to side, touchdown Washington forward stowed up out
of the scoreboard.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
A Heisman moment for Michael Pennix. It's never ever gonna
get old.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Is it humilling here in those highlights Magic ever from
two thousand three?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, yeah, Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
The architect of all that is joining us now on
the radio show. It's been a minute, it's been a minute,
but he's back on the air with us. One of
the all time greats, if not the greatest. Second place
in the Heisman Trophy in twenty twenty three, twenty five
and three at DUB three and zero against the Oregon
Ducks and maybe the greatest of all time. Our old
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friend Michael Pennix joining us right now on the radio program, Mike, how.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
Are you man?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
It's softy and here. What's going on?
Speaker 5 (01:26):
How you doing? I'm doing great. Excited to be on
the show with you guys.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Oh god, it's great to have you back on the show.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
When you hear those highlights, by the way, what goes
through your mind thinking about all those great moments in
that twenty twenty three season. Was there one highlight, one
favorite moment for you honestly during that year that stands out?
Speaker 7 (01:48):
I definitely say the favorite moment was obviously being Oregon.
You know, that's always that's always one of the best moments.
And then obviously with the fans storm of the field
is awesome. But you know, just hearing stuff, it just
brings back a lot of memories and uh, and it's
it's super excited to to be able to be a
part of that. And I'm just blessed to be a
part of.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Mike has Hugh and and I really enjoyed our conversation
at that u w QB event for the spring game,
uh last spring, but uh, you know it, while you're
we're playing those highlights, I'm reminded during that time there
was a lot of Husky fans that had questions about
your injury status.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
Uh you know you're over you know, in.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
That that booth and and uh just kind of some
of the way you had to maybe conceal some uh
some injuries.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
My senior year.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
At Washington, I had a sc external clovicular separation that
I had to play with for about seven games. I mean,
we all kind of have to do that at the position, right,
But but but now we can come clean, right, It's
it's well passed the limitation, right, Like, like just tell
us all so we can just like exhale. What what
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if anything was happening with you health wise? What were
you battling during the end of that twenty twenty three season.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
I wasn't really battling anything health wise, you know, I
just feel like it was just a tough stress of
the season. But I know at the same time, you
know everybody, everybody's going through it. You know, you get
the you know, the sickness that go around, you know,
late in the season, but that that all comes with it.
So it's it's no excuses to you know what what
went down.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
But at the end of the day, it.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
Was just you know, obviously being it was excited to
be able to pull off all those wins and doing
what we did. Obviously I couldn't do it out you know,
the rest of the guys. So it's it's something it's
something that's really nothing, you know, It's it's just it
wasn't really good football being played at that time, but
we did enough to win.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Right and you know, we we have such amazing memories
of that Texas game and and what you were able
to accomplish through the air and what have you. Now
that you've had a couple of years to kind of
have a reflection about it, do you do you revel
more in the Texas game? Where or how much does
the Michigan game just stick in your craw Like, like,
(04:07):
where are you with that? You mentioned Oregon, but what
about those last couple of games in the CFP, you know,
just battling right there with a chance to win that title.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
Yeah, I mean first and foremost, you know, it was
it was just great to be able to be in
that position.
Speaker 5 (04:20):
You know. I feel like at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 7 (04:24):
Around camp time and I said that, you know it
to a win national championship. I feel like that, you know,
not not too many people believe that, you know, across
the world. So it's for us to even be in
a position to you know, have a chance at doing
that and obviously going undefeated in the regular season and
you know, winning our first playoff game, you.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Know, it was Yeah, Mike Pennick says with us and Mike,
before we move on to some stuff around the NFL,
let me just go back to those to those days
that you do Ian. You mentioned the Oregon win, Man,
when you look back on it seven and oh against
Oregon Wazoo in Oregon State three and oh against the
Orgon Docs. I don't know how many Oregon teammates you
have right now with you on the Falcons down there,
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But honestly, how proud are you of that that, no
matter what you do in your life and your career,
you can honestly go to bed every night saying you
never lost to Oregon.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Man, that makes me, it's super excited, because it's crazy
because the first thing I heard whenever I stop up
on campus was like, we do not lose to Oregon,
We do not lose to Wazoo.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Like these are the two teams that we hate.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
We want to go out there and you know, beat
them every single time we played. So for us to
be able to do that and for me to be
able to say that for the rest of my life,
like those two years, I haven't lost to them teams,
you know, it's definitely awesome.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
Michael Pennick's with us and Mike, let's let's transition to
your days now as a Falcon and so many of
us are our heart Just you know, what was extended
to you when we heard about the injury. Obviously you
have already been a model for perseverance that having come
back from two acls and shoulder injuries to have that
(06:00):
or where you were second in the Heisman, But what
was this latest injury like for you just kind of
mentally just take us through the process of being an
NFL quarterback and sustaining that injury, particularly in light of
the injuries you've had in your past.
Speaker 7 (06:17):
Yeah, So it was this crazy because you know, obviously
with my past and you know, it's kind of happening again.
You know, it's it's crazy, but at the same time
kind of look at it, and you know, I just
try to take it into positive light and you know,
just trying to figure out what is it that you know,
I feel like God is, you know, trying to show
me something, and you know, I just got to con
see to trust to him and trusting his plan, and
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you know, whatever happens to me, you know, I know that.
You know, I've been through through this before. I've been
in these times before, and I always came back stronger,
so I definitely looked forward to coming back stronger from it.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Well, I gotta tell you, man, nobody wants to see
any of this stuff happen to you because all of
us are pulling for your hardcore, right. I mean, it's
one thing to root for a guy in school, but
everybody is pulling for you hardcore in the NFL as well.
And I don't know what we did as dog fans,
Mike to deserve you being healthy for the two years
that you were here at Washington. I mean, it's it's
just unbelievable how those are the two years of your
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career that you were able to stay healthy. But like,
what's the reaction been like, talk talk to us about
Kirk Cousins. For example, right, you show up and you
compete for the job, and obviously he just signed a
brand new contract and there's all that conversation. What's what's
Kirk been like as a teammate and a friend and
a mentor to you behind the scenes, especially now that
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you're dealing with another knee injury.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Yeah, for sure, he's been awesome, you know, since day one.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
You know, he's always be able to answer any questions
I had, and he was He's also open, open guy
as well. You know, he's a guy that you know,
he's like he asked me like sometime, hey, did you
see anything there? You know, in certain plays, And obviously
I'll do the same same with him, you know, because
I feel like we built a good connection and you know,
it's it's all love in a quarterback room. And I'm
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just super blessed to be a part of us. Has
to be able to be behind him last year and
just you know, just kind of learned and you know,
just see how he carries hisself, see how he leads
a team, and it was awesome to see and it's
awesome to be a part of. But he's been great
and ever since my injury, he did reach out and
you know, just checked in on me, and you know,
he also sent me some stuff as well, so he's
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been great.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I'm curious as a guy who's either played or observed
the position quarterback for a long time now fifty plus years,
it strikes me how difficult it is, as evidenced by
how few people can do it really, really well. You
did it at the highest level in college, You've had
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a number of opportunities where you've played, you know, near
that level in the pros. What is the biggest change
from college football to playing professional football at that position.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
I'll say the biggest thing, you know is, you know,
at the end of the day, you know, it's still football.
You know, I feel like, you know, you hear everybody
say like everything is moving faster and stuff like that,
and yeah, it does feel like that when you first
get in. But you know, as you get those reps
and you continue to build those reps and build that confidence,
you know, you get to it and you know, I
feel like I'm comfortable and I got used to it.
(09:17):
But it's definitely a different process, And obviously, I feel
like the biggest thing is the off season. You know,
it's like not even in season when we're throwing and stuff,
but the off season it's like you're on your own.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
You know.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
In college, you got that schedule, it's like, Okay, you're
still you got runs this day at this time.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Like now it's like you have to do that yourself.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
You have to go find somewhere to train and somebody
to train with, and you got to do it all yourself.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
So I feel like that's the biggest difference.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Yeah, was there kind of an AHA moment for you
in the NFL? I mean, my my AHA moment for you?
What you dub by the way I tell you exactly
the game it was. It was when you hammered Michigan,
stayed at home in your first year at you dub
and here comes this kid from Indiana, nobody knows a
lot about them, and then you show up heer and
just slice up the Spartans at Husky Stadium. We're all going, man,
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we might have something pretty good freaking legiti here.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
On our hands.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So that was kind of my AHA moment for you
with you Dubb. Was there one of those moments for
you so far in the NFL, or you really said
to yourself and you felt like, you know what, no problem,
I can do this.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I got this.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
Yeah, I would say it was just one moment, but
I definitely feel like, you know, there's different moments that
build up to you know, that confidence, Like like I say,
you know, just those reps and you know, each and
every day just seeing myself like get better. It's like, Okay,
I did I made a mistake this day and the
next day I'm I'm correcting it and I'm making the
completion where I need to go, and you know, so
I feel like there's more of a build up.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
It never had. It was never like oh I got
it like right away. It was like each and every
day I felt like I was getting better and better.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Well, unfortunately you got a little bit more time than
you would otherwise have. You know, as you're getting through
this injury, which gives you some time to watch the
college football playoff? Are you a fan in that regard?
And specifically, I know we're gonna ask you about Indiana
or your Hoosiers and being the number one seed, but
I want to ask you about Kaylen de Boor and
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you know, just how you feel about him at Alabama?
What was your reaction. I'm not sure if you've ever
been asked that on the record. You know, when when
you left Kaylen left and uh and now he's uh,
you know, he's the head of Role Tide and and
do you find yourself you root for him? Like just
kind of what what about that? And and how you
feel about Alabama in this tournament?
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Yeah, for sure. I'm I'm definitely a big coach to
boors fan. You know, I feel like wherever he goes,
whatever team he's leading, I'm a big fan of him.
You know, the person and the man that he is.
You know, I feel like he gave me opportunity. You know,
whenever I came to you. You know, we only spent
one year together and at Indiana and it was an
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awesome year, but you know, he we didn't really have
a strong connection like that. But for him to be
able to give me opportunity and believing in me and
you know, believing in my abilities even after I came
off of multiple season and injuries, it was just it's
just somebody that I can't forever, you know, have love
for and you know, appreciate for for that, So I'll
definitely yeah coach a divorce fan.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, I'd say you guys are pretty beneficial to each other.
There's no doubt the impact that you had on him
and vice versa was obvious. But it's interesting, like hearing
you talk like that, Michael Pennock's with us that when
you had the one year together at Indiana that you
weren't really that tight, and then all of a sudden
he's calling you to see if you'll transfer to Washington
to play for him as his head as his head coach.
(12:39):
So what was it about that that made sense? And
I got to ask you. I've always wanted to ask
you this, and now we got a chance to ask you.
If it wasn't for Washington, who was your number two
choice behind you dub if you were to transfer out
of Indiana.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (12:54):
So, uh, I said my number two choice. I didn't
really have a number two choice. You know, it's crazy
because I only visited, but I only visited two teams.
So I actually visited u CF and on my visit
to u CF coach the board. Uh no, not on
my visit, but like after my visit from u CF,
I was able to you know, get up to you Dub.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
So I actually left from UCF and went up to
U Dub.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
And you know, once I once I got up to
you Dub, I watched all the you know tape on
the guys that that that was already there, you know,
all the receivers and stuff, and you know, I was like, oh, yeah,
these these are some really talented guys.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
And officin line was great, so I was like it
made sense.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
And then obviously knowing the offense and you know, just
I felt very confident Coach the Boy and his play calling.
And obviously I didn't know Coach Grub at that time,
but that's when I met Coach Grub, and Coach the
Boy was like I trust him, Like he's gonna call
the plays and you know, I'm gonna love it, and
you know, I trusted in those guys.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
In these days, it seems like there's more Heisman Trophy
winners all Americans at the quarterback position who transferred U
than who didn't. I mean, Mendoza wins the Heisman. He
was a transfer bo Nicks, all right, right, So in
that situation, uh, does the does the head coach do
they tell you like, hey, you come here you're the
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starter automatically or do they say, hey, we think you'll
be the starter, Like, like, what's the communication with respect
to that.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
No, So when I talked to Coach the Boy, it
was obviously Deli Morris. He was the starting.
Speaker 7 (14:28):
Quarterback there the previous year, and you know you had
Sam as well. He were in obviously you know, he
was a very very good quarterback coming out of high school.
So whenever I got there, like before I even signed
a committee, you know, Coach the Boy told me, he's like,
you're gonna have to compete for the job.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
You know, it's nothing was gonna be given. So each
and every day it was a competition.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
We you know, they kept track of each and every throw,
kept track of our completion percentages, our turnovers and stuff
like that, and you know they made that decision at
the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Well, Michael Penick's well us and Mike when they got
to run to dinner out there and Atlanta. Man, it's
great to hear your voice and hope we can catch
you up more often. Man, But I got to ask
you before you go, have you had a chance to
watch Demand Williams play at all? And if so, what
do you make of his game, Have you had a
chance to speak with demand at all, and and kind
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of be a mentor to him, because there's a club,
right there's a next Husky club that you and Hugh
right here are obviously a part of, and Demon is
next in line in that club. So what's your take
on number two at Washington and have you had a
chance to get to know him at all?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Yeah, man, I'm very high on him.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
I feel like he's a very good quarterback and the
things that he can do, you know, not you know,
obviously in the pocket, but you know, you see the
things that he could do outside of the pocket as well.
But I do feel like he has a very good
arm and you know, he has some weapons around on
this year, those guys are making a lot of plays.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
So it's definitely awesome to see you.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
I'm definitely a big fan of him, and I reached
out to him a couple of times after the games
and stuff, you know, just now, you know, just congratulate him.
But we haven't had, you know, too much of a relationship,
but I definitely root for him. And you know, whoever,
whoever's back to quarterback or any position with the Huskies.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
And one more as we let you go. Mike's been
great to visit with you. Who are you rooting for
in the Rose Bowl? Alabama or Indiana?
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Wow, I'm just I'm just rooting for football. I don't
got no choice.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
How about this? How about this? Let me rephrase it.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
If Indiana wins and they play Oregon in the semi final,
who do you pull for in that game?
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Anybody but Oregon?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I love it? I love it? All right, Mike, you're
the man. Thanks for doing this, buddy, Enjoy the rest
of your night. Good luck with the rehab. Can't wait
to see you back on the field, and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Man, all right, thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
You got it, Michael Pennox with us anybody but Oregon?
I love it.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
The guy was here for two years, and it took
him two years to realize how much you're supposed to
hate the Oregon Ducks. It didn't take him two years.
I took him about a month and a half. By
the way, when he first showed up. You're right, all
right here, let's do this. We'll get a break. Sharon
Thorsland's the sideline reporter for the Carolina Panthers. Next up
for the Seahawks, they're fighting for the NFC South Championship
by the way down there.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
And Charlotte, we'll talk to her.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Rich Gannon, the two thousand and two NFL MVP, he's
gonna join us at five. We got to talk about
the big news involving DK metcalf man as well, coming
up on a busy Monday with Softie and Hugh and
Jackson right here on ninety three three KJARFM from the
R and R.
Speaker 6 (17:27):
Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back to Softie and Dick
on your home for the Huskies, Kraken and the twelfth
Man Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ r FM.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
All right, let's to get to you on a busy Monday
right here on ninety three three KJARFM.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
You milling in for Nick Fine today, who's got the
day off? Yes, it's true, this man has no Dick.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Get to the DK metcalf conversation in a moment. Michigan,
in case you haven't noticed, still does not have a
football coach, so we'll get to that coming up as well.
Seahawks and Carolina though on Sunday, And really there's only
one person we turned to here when it comes to
analysis of the Carolina Panthers because she's the only one
that always says yes. She says yes when everybody else
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says no. Our longtime friend WBT, sideline reporter for the
Carolina Panthers, R O Pal talking about the upstart Carolina
Panthers sharing Thorsland with us on the radio program Sharon,
Happy Holidays.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
How are you the same?
Speaker 1 (18:24):
To you?
Speaker 8 (18:24):
I'm great things. How about you?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
We're good? This feels like our annual conversation. I don't
know what it is.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
The Seahawks and Panthers seem to play every frigging year,
for God's sakes, and here we are again talking about
another another contest between these two teams in a game that,
I'll be honest with you a couple of months ago
looked like maybe a bit of a cakewalk for the Hawks.
But eight and seven now fighting for the NFC South Championship.
How surprised are you that we're talking about Carolina being
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in this position right now?
Speaker 8 (18:53):
Yeah, I must admit I think pretty much everybody around
here is pretty surprised. I mean, I did think that
the Panthers would have this season in the year two
hunder Daves Canalis, but certainly not to this extent to
be fighting for the playoffs. I mean currently the Panthers
are number one in the NFC South right now, but
still got another big game coming up against the Bucks
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after the Seahawks that will actually determine pretty much to
who's going to end up in a playoff for So yeah,
I'm pretty surprised that they ended up at this point,
and I'm very pleasantly surprised, very happy, and yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
You bet, I would imagine. So what areas of the
football team have improved that have led this surge?
Speaker 8 (19:32):
Well, I mean the play of Bryce Young, I think
has been huge. Uh, he's still looking for some consistency,
but he has been He's improved drastically since last year
with his ability to read defenses to create some plays.
He's being more patient, He's got a great rapport, great
chemistry with our rookie receiver Teterro McMillan. Jalen Cocher also
has come on strong, our second year receiver, so that's
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been tremendous. And the play of the offensive line has
also been huge, turning it around for me a year
ago when they were absolute dead last worse than the league.
Have really come on and played much much better this year.
I had a lot of key additions in the draft
of Derek Brown coming back healthy was huge. Of course,
also brought in some free agents that have really helped
our cause. So I think those two things really to
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play Bryce Young and then the defense turning things around
is the key.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Sharon.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
I haven't taken a look yet, and I figured I
would just rely on your expertise. Why Google when I
can go to Sharon Thorsland directly? How big of a game,
honestly is this for Carolina? Because you beat Tampa Bay
last week, you got them next week in kind of
a unique situation, you play him twice in three weeks.
If you lose the game Sunday and you beat the Buccaneers,
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you're going to begin NFC South champions no matter what.
So how big a game is this truly for them?
Speaker 3 (20:45):
On Sunday?
Speaker 8 (20:47):
You know it's big because there is another way for
them to get into the playoffs, and that is if
they can beat Seattle. And if the Bucks lose to
Miami on Saturday, which is probably our Sunday, it is
probably not gonna have because I can't imagine the Bucks
losing four games in a row and Miami. It's sort
of the train wreck the Estates, so probably won't happen,
but no, and this team is treating this as yet
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another championship opportunities. They call it another playoff game. They've
sort of been in playoff mode for several weeks now,
trying to stay alive and stay in the hunt. So
they're not going to be cashing in and on this
game by any means, nor do they deserve to be
able to do that.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
At this point.
Speaker 8 (21:23):
They're still still trying to become a good football team,
still trying to get to consistency. However, I think most
of the fans out there would be happy if they
did lose to the Teahawks, because that's been the Panther's
trend now for months. Win one, lose one, win one,
lose one, win one, lose one. So after the Bucks
win yesterday, they need to lose the Seahawks and then
get back on track with beating the Bucks in the
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game that really counts them. As you said, for the
NFC South.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Well, we're here's to hoping. We're hoping here that it
continues that way and that you'll lose one because you
just won one. Last weekend, right, but when we see
the Bucks, I know, I think it shocked a lot
of people. I mean, some of the most incredible wins
of the NFL this year, shocking maybe early on, you
know at Green Bay and then beating the Rams like
(22:08):
those are two of the handful of best wins in league.
And yet you turn around and then lose the Saints
in the middle of all that. So when the Panthers
have been poor and and you're shaking your head, what
is it about them that you see that's leading to
those losses?
Speaker 8 (22:26):
A big thing penalty, it's self inflicted woes mainly when
if they play like they're capable of playing and play
good football, they clearly can beat anyone. When they do
the silly things and you know, the lack of focus
and the dumb mistakes and the penalties or you know,
the dropped passes, things like that, that's been when they lose,
and it's it's definitely it seems like it's more of
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a mental thing. They've got plenty of talent on this
football team. They just don't have the consistency right now
that Dave Canalis is looking for. And then when they
don't have the focus and have the silly mistakes and
the things that just shoot themselves in the But that's
been why they've been losing. It has not been, i think,
for anything any other reason now. And coach Cannel will
be the first one to tell you some of those
mistakes were hit like when they didn't run the football
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when they've got a hot Rico' daddle and they've got
out to San Francisco after whipping up on the Falcons
in Atlanta, they go out to San Francisco against a
very good passing defense and decide they're just going to
try to pass ball all day instead of run. When
you've got to Hubbard and Rico Daddle. So he's made
some mistakes on the way too that he will certainly,
you know, take his medicine for. So it's things like
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that that have caused them to lose.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Like that game.
Speaker 8 (23:33):
They should have won that game, and they had three
picks in the first half yea at San Francisco. So
you know, it's pretty much the self inflicted wounds. I
think that have been their biggest achilles hill when they've
been in their losses this season.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Well, I'm looking at if I'm not mistaken, the last
time the Seahawks lost to Carolina. I think Sam Darnold
was the quarterback in twenty twenty two, three years ago,
so you as you look back on your time was
so when you covered him in Carolina and.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
You see what he's become.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
How surprised we just talked to you about how surprised
you are about the Panthers competing for a division. I mean, Sharon,
Sam Donald has more wins than anybody in the last
two years as a starting quarterback, and he's the first
QB in the history of the NFL to win twelve
games or more two years in a row with two
different teams. How surprised are you that that's the guy
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that we're talking about that you saw up close and
personal three years ago.
Speaker 8 (24:30):
Yeah, I mean I would be lying if I said
I wasn't surprised. Yeah, I mean, it was a bad
situation here, and needless to say, with when Matt Ruhle
was here, and we also had Taker Mayfield and Sam
Donald at one point, so you know, it was just
a bad situation all the way round. Of both of
those guys have gone off to have tremendous success. I
did not see that coming with Sam Donald I admit that,
(24:53):
but I am so happy for him, but loved covering him.
He was a great guy here, wonderful to work with,
the guys, loved him on the tea. He was a
class act all the way around, and he was just
in a bad situation here, as was you know, Baker,
and just fedivery on the team at that point. So
I love it for Sam that he's been able to
go and have the kind of success he has, and
I think he's been in a great spot out there
(25:14):
with you guys in Seattle. So I'm happy for him.
I just wanted to not maybe have that same success
against Panthers this weekend.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Sharon Thorson with us, the sideline reporter for the Panthers.
I want to drill down on Dave's question because I
have said here locally that November twenty seventh, twenty twenty
two was kind of I don't say that a seminal
moment on that day, but that's the point where Sam
Darnold's career went in a different direction because he had
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sat for those eleven games the first time in his career.
He sat those eleven games, and then he started with
the last six games he went four and two, and
then he went to San Francisco, course went on to
Minnesota and we know the rest of it. But was
there something that you picked up as a reporter there
that Sam was able to acquire while being on that bench,
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Because the first time he went back in as a starter,
he's been lights out And Dave said the winning this
quarterback in the last two years. Hell, since that date
that I said, in twenty twenty two, over four seasons,
four different teams, he also has the highest win percentage
of any quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
So what about that.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Twenty twenty two year do you remember that might have
been really pivotal for Sam Darnold?
Speaker 8 (26:28):
You know, I think it was, you know, the classic
chip on the shoulder kind of thing. I think he
was really really frustrated to be sitting like that and
had something to prove, and when he got the chance
to go back out there, that's exactly what he did.
I think a lot of guys can benefit from sitting
on the bench. Price Young certainly did last year. But
I think in Sam's instance, he had never had a
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true shot, like a good shot with a good team
around him, and I think that sitting on the bench
was just such a motivator for him. He would just
really wanted to go out there and prove the doubters
wrong and show that he belonged as a starter in
this league. And he just had this like this determination
about him when he came back out there. And then
you start winning and start building that confidence again, and
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you know, guys certainly rallied around him. So that's the
biggest thing that I saw from him. And then, like
he said, he's just taken off ever since then, and
the confidence is certainly there again, and he knows that
he's an excellent quarterback in this league. But I do
think that it started with when he was on the bench.
I think that that frustration and that that extra motivation,
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that chip on the shoulder really came out in him
in those last couple of games of the season.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Well, it's going to be fun on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It might be a scenario where whichever team can avoid
the letdown this weekend is going to win, right Carolina
coming off the high of the Tampa Bay win, the
Seahawks coming off the high of the stupid comeback against
the Rams on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
And I thot, Yeah, that was incredible.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, so whatever team can avoid the letdown. But big game,
no doubt with these two teams. And never thought back
in some it'd be as big as it is. But
it's gigantic. So great stuff, Sharon, enjoy the rest of
the holidays and have fun.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Sunday we'll talk down the road.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
Great, thanks so much, Thank you, guys.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
You bet.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Sharon Doorsland, the voice sideline voice of the Carolina Panthers.
All right, we're gonna break man, oh Man, DK Metcalf,
Holy hell, we'll come back and shout about it. Been
suspended two games by the NFL Hugh for taking a
swing at a fan during the Lion Steeler game on Sunday.
Did the NFL get it right? Does it matter what
fans say to players at all? Or is the onus
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always going to be one hundred percent on the player
to not respond. We'll come back and chat about it
next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 6 (28:42):
From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now
back to Softi and Dick on your Home for the Huskies.
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Speaker 1 (28:55):
All Right, busy Monday, baby, Safty, Dick Jackson. Dick's out
hemail in for Dick, Today's true.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
This man has no Dick.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Right here on ninety three three kJ A RFM. Question
is what do you hear more between now and seven o'clock?
That drop right there? Or the PayPal commercial between now
and seven pm?
Speaker 3 (29:13):
I mean, it's just insane.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
If you have not learned by now the best way
to send money during the holiday season is with PayPal,
then you will never ever ever learn. Guys, I think
we all need to sing go your own way together.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Oh, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Well is that Will Ferrell by the way, Yeah, that's
Will Pharaoh. Well, Hugh Millin's with us until seven o'clock.
If you miss Michael Pennix by the way, great to
catch up with him. We'll give that to you. Come
up six pm. Actually we're going till six thirty because
we got cracking ducks coming up. Pregame six thirty, face
off at seven. We're all of a sudden, the boys
have the worst record, tied for the worst record in
the NHL. After such a strong start, they have totally
(29:50):
fallen apart. We'll hear the game coming up? Is is
mikey be doing radio tonight? Right Mike Betton again continues
to realize his childhood dream by calling radio in the NHL.
He'll be obviously on the call tonight at seven o'clock
from the Pond, Hugh. Lots of stuff to talk about.
(30:10):
Last time we had you on Friday. It was great
timing because it was that unbelievable classic comeback against the
Rams on Thursday night. Now we have another incident involving
DK Metcalf and this has been now resulted in him
getting suspended for a couple of games. He can appeal it.
We'll see what happens. But the story is that during
(30:31):
the Lions Steeler game yesterday DK Metcalf was said something
to him by this fan wearing this you know, blue
wig or whatever the hell it is, pomp palm on
his head. DK walks over, the guy leans towards DK,
says something, and DK takes a swipe at him. DK
has claimed people that represent him have claimed that he
(30:53):
used a racial slur dropped a c next Tuesday on
him regarding his mother. The fan come out and said
none of that's true at all, by the way, so
I guess it's a question of who you believe. But
the NFL has said, whether we believe you or not, whatever,
you're suspended for a couple of games. So I guess
before we talk about all the different tentacles, if you will, Hugh,
(31:15):
that come along with this story, what was your reaction
to seeing that incident involving DK yesterday and the suspension today.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Very appalled to see it. Inexcusable, zero defense of that.
I think two games seemed right. You kind of just
look and say, oh, they got two games left and
they're likely to make the playoffs, so it seemed like
two regular season games seems about right. I mean, look,
fans are part.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Of the structure of sports.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
And they buy the tickets, they fund the salaries, they
create the game day atmosphere. Athletes agree implicitly and explicitly
to operate with any controlled environment and a controlled violence
only between players, and you break that that covenant, you
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break the trust and sports can't operate.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
And so it is.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
It is no excuse, It is no defense about what
a fan may have said. Fans say stupid things, they
say mean things, they say evil things, they say racist things,
they say a lot of reprehensible things. That is a
problem with the security at the stadium. That is baked
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into sports. That's just part of the deal.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Athletes are paid to absorb this provocation without reacting physically.
David and I just think that it is not the
athlete's place to police the fans and so and you know,
you just think about there's twenty two hundred and forty
players in the NFL, the vast majority of which are
(33:00):
here to play by the rules right, and there is
an economic impact to the actions of like what DK
said that brings everybody else down. It paints everybody in
the league with a brush they don't want to be
painted in. Most players don't want to be paid, even
former players.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
You know.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
We you know, my pension which I haven't elected to
receive yet, but my pension is tied to the financial
success league. So even you know, no, I'm just not
even a mist in the ocean from the NFL. But
every current and former player is somehow tied to the
actions of current players in matters such as this.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
So I'm sorry.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
I I if, in fact there was a racist epithet,
that's discussing it's important. I can't you know, I can't
imagine in twenty twenty five that a fan would want
to come up to a black professional athlete and just
use the the shield of being in the stands and
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figure that he can act like that to another human being,
another black human being. But as as disgusting and reprobate
as that is, you still can't do what DK did.
So I don't have any equivocation on this.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I'm very FIRMA, yeah, no, I get I think it's
I it's a fair take.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I mean again, I've known you for a long time now,
where a friendship is going on twenty five plus years,
and if there's one thing that I've learned from you,
it's that you know two truths can exist at the
same time, and reasonable minds can disagree. Right, And I
agree with a lot of what you're saying, and I
totally see your side and your perspective, and I would
probably here to be honest with you, generally agree with
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that right and side towards what you are saying that
outside of somebody actually being on the receiving end of
some sort of violence meeting, a fan jumps out of
the stands and starts attacking a player, points a weapon
of a player, whatever, things like that that are so
obviously off the charts insane that you don't even really
(35:08):
think about it. There really is no there's no place
for any player to put their hands on a fan.
I mean, I think about actually, the one time in
my life where I have felt completely uncomfortable and queasy
as a sports fan was when I watched the Mallets
at the Palace back in the day with the Pistons
and those fights. Remember that that spilled over into the
(35:30):
crowd at that basketball game.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
It was disgusting watching that.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
And so that's the last thing anybody obviously wants to see.
I do I do wonder though, and I just think
there's a conversation and maybe we circle back to it
when it's all said and done, you and you go
back to your original commentary and the top of the pyramid,
the base of the mountain, whatever, and you have the
take you have, and that's the take you have, and
that's totally fine. Is there any room for fans to
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receive anything like what DK Metcalf did, depending on what
flies out of a fan's mouth. Like Ross Tucker, for example,
went on The Dan Patrick Show today and basically said,
fans can say whatever they want. They can say whatever
they want, and there's no place at all for what
DK Metcalf.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Did, And I think I would probably agree with that.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
But like you know, to tell Marte, who plays for
the Diamondbacks, was the victim of a fan last year.
You guys may have heard of this that was screaming
at him about his dead mother and he had to
just deal with that and walk off the field in tear.
Security ended up handling it when it was all said
and done, but he had no choice but to just
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sit there and deal with it. So is there is
there any room at all? Is there any conversation to
be had whatsoever? That depending on what came out of
the mouth of the fan, there is a situation where
maybe what DK Metcalf did is justified. And again I
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would probably generally say no, I'm just throwing it out
there for the sake of the argument and sake of
the conversation with me.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
Hugh, Okay, well, I understand, hang on.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
A second time out because we gotta get a break here.
I don't even know if I believe what DK's saying.
I mean, if I'm DK Metcalf and I wanted to
wiggle my way out of.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
This, that's exactly what I would say.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
I would just say, Hey, the guy was doing this,
he was doing that, he was saying this, he was
saying that, and the NFL would go back and ask
for witnesses or if people sitting right next to this
guy in the front row of Ford Field, they'd ask him,
did you hear this?
Speaker 6 (37:25):
No?
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Anybody else hear that?
Speaker 6 (37:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Well, I'm sorry Dk. The other part of the problem
with DK metcalf and you know this as well as anybody.
His reputation kind of precedes him a little bit.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Right.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
He's known as a bit of as a bit of
a hothead, a bit of a hothead. He's been emotional
about stuff, and I wonder if some of that played
a role in the NFL's quick decision to suspend him.
So we'll come back and talk chat about this a
little bit. I think you We're going to have this
conversation and I'm going to just pretty much agree with you,
but I do want to hear your perspective on that
(37:54):
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