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January 8, 2026 36 mins

In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain continue to discuss the news about Demond Williams transferring from UW and the latest developments, chat with Danny Kanell about the situation and UW’s next quarterback, plus talk more about the transfer.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Lane Lambert will join us as well, coming up pregame
right before face Off tonight run six' ten ish or
so on the radio. SHOW i have not been a
part of The Lane lambert interview for the last couple of,
weeks but let me ask you a. Question how many
times did you talk To Lane lambert WHEN i was on.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Vacation by the, way it was. Twice, okay if it was,
ONCE i was like.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Whatever but if it was twice and they're eight oh
one their last, nine if they lose tonight To, MINNESOTA
i may just skip the next interview and you can
just HAVE i enjoy talking To, lane and THEN i would,
Well i'm not SAYING i don't enjoy talking to.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Him i'm talking about from a superstition.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Perspective if if if they lose, tonight with me back
on the interview WHERE i have not been there for
a couple of, WEEKS.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
I would just, say you, guys have you guys take?
It jackson are cool with? That you guys take you.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Know we'll see If lane agrees he's, like, well you know,
What i'm not even sure IF i care what he.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
THINKS i need them to. WIN i, mean if they're
If i'm going back on the air and they're gonna
lose hockey, games, man THEN i may just have to
take a break from this and let you guys take it.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Over how fun was it three years ago when we were,
talking we were talking hockey at the beer hall In.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
May, yes that was a lot of. Fun i'd like
to see that.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
AGAIN i would like to see hockey In may And.
June that'd be really, fun by the. Way but cracking, aight.
Toh in one tonight they take On. Minnesota we got
the college football semi Finals, Miami Ole miss And glendale, Tonight,
Oregon indiana, tomorrow And. Atlanta danny canell is going to
join us in about fifteen minutes from now on the radio.
Show we're going his thoughts obviously on the game tonight

(01:29):
and the game. Tomorrow the big, story obviously locally is
the demon. Thing and it's not just, Locally, dick it's
across the. Country this is the biggest story in college
football by. Far everybody's talking about, this and for lack
of a better, term everybody's crapping on the guy across the.
COUNTRY i, mean anybody who's anybody in sports media is
just shooting this, down, saying what the hell's going on In?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Seattle what are we? Doing why are we allowing this to?

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Happen you, Know Pat forty did a story on this
the other day where he, said hey's. Surprise the two
biggest controversies in college football right now Involved Lane, kiffin,
right who's removing his coaches From Ole missus staff before
their game, tonight then bringing him back TO. Lsu he's
going After Demon williams to come To Baton Rouge.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Uh demon's been dropped By Doug hendrickson After doug SAID
i had nothing to do with, this AND i want nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
To do with it moving. Forward, Uh i'm getting rid
of the.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Guy he dropped him Today as a, client he went
out and hired a lawyer Named Darren. Heidner you had
this in the, update who represented a defensive, Ack Xavier
lucas when he took off From wisconsin To. Miami so,
look there's two things THAT i know for, certain for,
certain because a lot of college football is so uncertain
right the two THINGS i know for, Certain Demon williams

(02:40):
will never play down for dub ever. Again and this
is gonna take years to figure. Out in the, meantime
Talking dumont's playing. Somewhere demon's gonna play somewhere In.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
SEPTEMBER i mean the legalese of The demand, situation in
the legalese in, general what's going.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
On One, johan what the hell we think of talking
about The demon story, deck the restitution that will come
TO U, dub whatever that, is whatever that. Means because
The Xavier lucas thing has been dragging on for years.
Now it's not even close to being. DONE i think
the conversations behind the, scenes the legal proceedings behind the
scenes BETWEEN U dub And demand and whatever school he

(03:17):
ends up going, to.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
So a three headed kind of monster.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
There that's gonna take, years and, FRANKLY i really outside
of changing the way the game is, structured which is
a big, DEAL i get.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
THAT i really don't. Care when that's all said and,
done the guy's.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
GONE U dub's gonna get a bag of, money five,
million six, million whatever it. Is it's not gonna IMPACT
U dub one. Iota it's the principle that we're talking about.
Now the money That washington will get in restitution From,
Demon Williams camp or FROM lsu or whoever ends up
bringing the guy on is not gonna make a dent
in udub's bottom, line all, Right so that really means

(03:54):
nothing to. Me ALL i know is this Demon williams
has completely ruined his name In. Seattle he's Surpassed Terrence
jones as the biggest clown In washington sports history And Jayden. DeLaura,
okay remember the Whole Terrence jones. Thing, yes BUT i
just think that this is going to drag on for,
years And DeMont williams days In seattle are.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Done so we just got to figure out.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
AGAIN i, guess as, fans how much of this you
want to pay attention, to because really all that matters
For washington right, now Actually dick is finding a.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
QUARTERBACK i was thinking about that. TODAY i was, like,
HEY i have already turned the page on De Mon.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
WILLIAMS i want to focus on who will be taking
snaps under center In.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
September that's WHAT i want to focus.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
On that's WHAT i want To i'm, hoping And i'm
thinking that will probably come. Soon like don't you, THINK
i mean the way quarterbacks dry up in the transfer,
portal don't you think it will happen a?

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Week? Yeah, YEAH i mean we've not.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Sooner WOULD i would guess that the that The huskies
will have a quarterback before The seahawks play another football, game,
Right that's WHAT i think.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
The husky's before next. Weekend, yeah that's totally. POSSIBLE i
wouldn't doubt that at.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
All.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
ABSOLUTE i, mean, look you, know you got a couple
of guys that are desirable In Sam levitt obviously is
one of. Them Deuced night is. ANOTHER i Know tennessee Wants.
Levitt we'll see what happens With Lsu dick And Demon.
Williams if he ends up going somewhere, else they're gonna
Want Sam. LEVITT i think you're. RIGHT i think we're
gonna have a quarterback In seattle very very. Soon but to,

(05:21):
me you know that that really is just kind of
Where i'm coming from that as a college football, Fan
i'm interested to see what this means for the.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
SPORT i think you are.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Too but as A husky, fan the only thing that
matters now is getting a quarterback for next season and
making sure they give themselves the best chance to win some.
Games BECAUSE i think they got a pretty good offensive.
LINE i think they got a pretty good running. Game
they With Ryan. WALTERS i think they're gonna have a
pretty good defense next, year although they're gonna have to
replace some guys for, Sure but, yeah get me a
quarterback and let demon go out there and.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Just take as many shots as he. Can Because i'm.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
PETTY i, Mean i'll admit. That you know That i'm,
petty AND i love the fact that people are ripping this.
Guy everyone across the country is ripping this, guy From
Andrew brandt To Clay travis to anybody who's anybody who
covers college.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Football is just killing this.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Guy and outside Of Baton, Rouge louisiana and, maybe as you,
Said Washington state And, Eugene, oregon Although Dan lanning was
asked today at a press conference about contracts, tracks and he's, like,
well what that was the point of a contract if
we're not gonna hotter? Him so you, know you've dug
yourself a hole as A husky. Quarterback when the Freaking

(06:28):
oregon coach has the back of the program that you're.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Leaving there's no, question and you can.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Tell the only people that don't think this is a
completely crazy situation and demand is in the wrong right
Are cougar fans And arizona. Fans those are the Ones
i'm hearing from On twitter that, think, oh, yeah what's,
This how's this? DIFFERENT i, read how's this different than
demand Leaving arizona.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
To go To.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
WASHINGTON i really got that tweet. Today.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
YEAH i, mean, LOOK i, yeah AND i get. It you,
know fans are, emotional. OBVIOUSLY i mean they're gonna say.
Things i'm gonna say, Things you're gonna say. Things all
of us are gonna fly off the handle a little.
BIT i went through a little bit of that the
other night on social media WHERE i finally had to
lock my phone in the bathroom and walk. Away that's
good because it was a bad idea for me to
be on social. Media BUT i just think it's cool for.

(07:13):
ME i don't know if you guys agree with this or,
not BUT i said this today on social media ON
x That, god it just kind of feels like all
of a, sudden everybody in the country is rooting for,
you Dub, yes to somehow win this quote unquote case
whatever you want to call. It they're pulling For, washington
AND i don't, KNOW i just Maybe i'm being totally

(07:33):
naive in a, gigantic Fatass.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Homer BUT i.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Believe that it feels today like maybe just Maybe washington's
gonna come out ahead in this thing With.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
DEMANT I i.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Think That washington will be more than fine at quarterback
and will come up with an answer That i'm not gonna.
Say i'm not gonna say right now that it's, oh
it's we're gonna get a quarterback that's better Than Demon.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Williams.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
RIGHT i just think we're gonna get a capable quarterback
that is going to win games For washington and with that,
defense like you just, mentioned with that running, Game washington
is going to be just fine Next.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, YEAH i, mean, LOOK i, MEAN i don't. KNOW
i think a lot of us. THOUGHT i don't want
to be the hypocrite that just forgets everything that we
said About Demon williams up Until monday, night which, was,
hey we kind of think that With Demon williams in
year three that this might be a playoff, Team like
we said, That, yes you said. THAT i don't know
IF i believe that, now BECAUSE i want to see

(08:27):
what they, do yeah at, quarterback, Right we'll see who
comes in and how the guy performs and all. That
BUT i was fired up For Demon williams to come,
back AND i was excited for him to return and
thought that maybe he would take a step in year
three and maybe we'd see a guy that would start
beating some of the tougher teams on the.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Schedule so we'll.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
SEE i, mean IF i could go back To monday
morning and have all this change and Have demon be
happy and be A, HUSKY i probably do. That to
be honest with, you nobody wanted to go through this
With Demon. Williams BUT i JUST i love the fact
that good or, bad like it or, Not washington football

(09:04):
right now is at the center.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Of the college football universe. Today it. Is so what
does that mean in the?

Speaker 3 (09:10):
End what does that mean for Pr what does that
mean for street cred? Marketing all that that's how we
come out of? It AND i think there's a lot we've.
All you've gone through terrible things in life and you've
come out better for. Him i've gone through bad things in.
Life i've come out better for. It washington's going through
a bad time right, now but they may come out
better for it in the.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
End, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
MAYBE i mean it feels like it's just it's just.
Wacky how nobody has this guy's. Back, nobody nobody has
this dude's. Back, dick All, Right we're gonna Break Danny.
Knell who's back does he? Have we'll find out what
does he think about this? Story who does he? Like
tonight tomorrow when the college football playoffs coming up on
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Speaker 1 (10:01):
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Speaker 1 (10:07):
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Speaker 1 (10:12):
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Speaker 2 (10:19):
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Speaker 1 (10:21):
Week it takes a lot to bump The seahawk talk
off the, Air dick on this radio, show And Demon
williams certainly has done that in the last couple of.
Days and we cannot think of a better guy to
get on the. Air courtesy a bet. Online our Friend
Danny kanell is with us on the radio, show And,
DANNY i tell, you, man we were planning having you
on talking About, Indiana, Oregon ole miss In, miami and then,

(10:44):
Boom Demon williams just drops this bomb on college football
that he's in the portal four days after signing an
nil revenue shared deal with, you, Dub what do you
make of this story, man developing here In.

Speaker 7 (10:57):
SEATTLE i hate it so much because this is just
a reflection of a system that feels completely.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
BROKEN i hate it For. WASHINGTON i hate it For washington.

Speaker 7 (11:10):
FANS i wouldn't have had any problem whatsoever If Demon
williams just hit the portal like four thousand other players,
have like two hundred quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Have but the way it's, unfolded it doesn't feel.

Speaker 7 (11:23):
Very, professional like we're describing all these kids as professional.
Athletes it doesn't seem like professional decision was. Made it
seems like a very immature. Decision AND i hate it
BECAUSE i think this really really Puts washington in a
tough spot because how are you supposed to manage a
roster if the guys you think you have under, contract

(11:45):
aren't going to be held to that contract that they
signed on the dotted.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
Line it's.

Speaker 7 (11:49):
Ridiculous so now it Puts washington behind the eight ball
because let's, say let's say Demm williams had from the
get gos That i'm hitting the.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
Portal you, know they at least could have had a
plan in.

Speaker 7 (12:00):
Place as opposed to scrambling around and trying to you,
know get visits and try to find the successor to
The Mom.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Williams it really Puts washington in a tough.

Speaker 7 (12:10):
Spot SO i hate, it AND i think most college
football fans and most college administrators hate it as. Well
but until we get some, structure there's absolutely nothing else
we can do about.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
This like it's just it's ridiculous to.

Speaker 7 (12:24):
Me everything feels like a, Sham like if you can't
enforce these, contracts why do we even have? Them like
it seems totally, pointless and it's just it's a it's a, crazy,
crazy messed up college football world right.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Now, well because this is a unique situation and such
a high profile situation with a high profile, player do
you think this could be the spark for legislation to
finally happen to instigate A, cba a player's, union actually
rules of the road in college.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
FOOTBALL i hope.

Speaker 7 (12:52):
So because as you, like AND i Think dick can
make a good point because a year ago we saw
this happen and it kind of flew under the radar
because it wasn't a quarterback who was making four million.
Bucks it was a you, know defensive player For wisconsin
that had signed on the dotted, line went To. Miami
and guess who's been a great player For miami this,
Season Xavier. Lucas you, know nothing ever came of. That you,

(13:16):
KNOW i don't think he was held. Liable there wasn't
ANY i don't think any money was. Spent it just
kind of went. Away it died slowly and, softly and
no one really paid attention to. It i've had an
argument with my buddies On cover, Three Bud elliott And Tom,
pornelli who do a great job on The cover three
podcast with.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
Me they have the line of thinking that.

Speaker 7 (13:35):
The, coaches BECAUSE i guarantee you the coaches are fed,
up And i've heard more and more coaches say we
need A, cba we need we need more. Structure they're
of the mindset that the schools are making so much
money and they're able to have the system in place
where a lot of this money is coming from boosters
and you're having fans and nil collectives put the bill

(13:56):
for your employees essentially is what they.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
Are so it's really not they're not going to be
willing to.

Speaker 7 (14:03):
Budge so then it looks, like all, right do we
have to Have congress or some you, know do we
have to have the politicians step in to get some
structure or anti trust exemption for college?

Speaker 5 (14:13):
FOOTBALL i don't really want.

Speaker 7 (14:15):
That but everyone's looking, around and everyone acknowledges the problems
that are out, there and yet no one's coming up with, solutions,
right so.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
We keep hearing these horror.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
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Props AND i, mean, LOOK i JUST i keep coming
up with these, questions and THEN i keep catching myself, Going, God,

(14:45):
dave you just sound, Naive, like where the Hell's Greg
saki right in this whole?

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Thing the commissioner of THE.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Sec why is he allowing one of his member institutions
to do something like. This they just don't want to
be told what to do. Do they don't want, to you,
know police each. OTHER i, mean you talk about the
oversight and the, Governance danny AND i totally agree with,
That but where the hell are the conference commissioners agreeing
with each.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Other we're going to respect each other's, contracts.

Speaker 7 (15:15):
That's the and SO i think they would all love
to see, that and that would be their advice to each.
Other but unfortunately they're not the agents or the attorneys
that are representing these players that are, also by the,
way making a boat lawed off a ten or twenty
percent commission in some, cases which is astronomical compared TO
nfl players that they, SAY i, mean COULD i guarantee

(15:37):
the conversations happening behind closed? Doors or can we enforce
these contracts like we thought we? Could and quickly they're
finding out they. Can't so and THEN i, mean if
You're greg thank in this, case you're pulling a great
player from The big ten into THE.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
Sec so how upset are? You you?

Speaker 7 (15:53):
Know but it will come back to bite them because
there are players going all over, there moving in between,
conferences AND i, think you, know it'd be one thing
if they were, moving the player was moving in, conference
you'd be able to enforce. It but it almost hurts
them because everyone's out for their own. Interest THE sec
is out for their own. Interest Big ten is out for,
then and no one's looking out for the collective good

(16:15):
of the. Sport and that's why it's all getting screwed.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Up, well the names out, there you, know it seems
like there's a short list of names if you just
look at the transfer portal that could actually be good
enough to quarterback a team Like.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Washington but should that list be?

Speaker 3 (16:27):
SMALL i, mean shouldn't every quarterback in the country that
doesn't have a signed deal for next year be on
List jedfish's list or the ones that do.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Have a signed. Deal, Man, yes that's a.

Speaker 5 (16:38):
Great, point and that's one hundred percent.

Speaker 7 (16:40):
Accurate, like why not look at some of THESE sec
quarterbacks that have already signed and possibly kicked the tires on?
THEM i, would especially after what we've. LEARNED i think
there's a couple of things that are good of. This
one is that now at least people Know washington's willing
to pay for a Million, bucks like you've got that
kind of set for your. Quarterback so there's a good
market that's out, There so, YEAH i think they should

(17:01):
be shopping. Around, unfortunately a lot of those other deals
that have already been, made those players are happy and.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
Settled they kind of already made that.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
Decision AND i think it is rare that we saw
the case With demon where he was made up his
mind and then. SWITCHED i think most of these other
quarterbacks are probably happy with their landing, spots happy with
the money they're, making and are looking at things and,
saying why WOULD i want to go anywhere? Else i'm good,
Now and they probably don't want to look LIKE i
think this Makes Demon williams look, bad like from a pr,

(17:32):
perspective from a teammate, perspective like, you like you bailed
on your. Team you bailed on your coaches when you
gave them your, word and that is. Different that's why,
again If DMan just entered The portal On january tewod
when it, OPENED i would never say that everyone enters
the portal LIKE i get. It but to do, THIS
i think it's a very bad. LOOK i think it's

(17:53):
a bad look for, him for his, representation and.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
Yet no one will.

Speaker 7 (17:57):
Remember no one's going to criticize, him you, know if
he goes and tears it, up, like no one's gonna
have any issue with.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
That so it's just it's it's kind of the, landscape.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Right, well There's i've never Heard danny and Again danny
canell with us courtesy have bet online dot.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Ag i've never Heard danny.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
A head coach slobber over a quarterback more Than jedfish
Did Demon. Williams And i'm not talking about this. Year
i'm talking about last year when he was backing up On.
Rogers jedfish would take the podium and he would talk
about the next face of the program Is. Demond he's
going to go To New york blah blah. Blah and
he's not even. Playing he's backing up Will, rogers and
he is slobbering Over DeMont williams to get him to,

(18:35):
stay to get him to understand how big a piece
of the pie he was going to. Be and Then
Demon williams just stabs him right in the freaking.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
Neck.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Man SO i agree that. YOU i mean it makes
him look.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
TERRIBLE i, mean you played obviously as a pro is
this going to matter in THE Nfl If Demon williams can,
Play is this gonna matter one lick when it comes
to his.

Speaker 7 (18:55):
Evaluation, unfortunately, No and that's why thing where we've all
lost our minds and no one everyone's out for.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Themselves there is no team.

Speaker 7 (19:08):
Aspect there is No i'm gonna make a sacrifice for
the team over.

Speaker 5 (19:12):
MYSELF i, mean look at.

Speaker 7 (19:14):
It look at the narrative when players starting sitting out,
bulls you, know because they had to prepare for THE nfl,
draft and it was like meaningless.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
GAMES i hated. THAT i thought those were selfish.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
Moves but in the context of, well you have to
make a business decision and you gotta do you got
to look out for your, future there is some truth in,
that but no. One everyone in the national media was, like,
yeah we get, it instead of brushing these, players which
they should. Have and IF i was AN nfl, TEAM
i would look into it and be, LIKE i don't

(19:45):
know what if that guy has a contract, year we
are you, know miss out on the playoffs is gonna
shut it down for the last four games, Probably but,
like but the talent is there and the teams AND
i blame THE nfl, too because they. Haven't they haven't,
blinked so probably this is another situation where they won't
blink an. Eye if De Mom williams goes out there
and lights it up next year and puts up big,

(20:06):
numbers they will not even hesitate on. THIS i would
IF i was a general. MANAGER i think this is,
like w what is this player all?

Speaker 5 (20:14):
About?

Speaker 7 (20:14):
Like what is he about making the most money and
securing the? Bag because that's sure what it feels. Like
or is he about like you were just, saying Like
jetfish gave him his, opportunity bolted him, up like helped
him elevate his game to where he, was and then
you stabbed in the back. Again this is all about
because he did agree to come back and change his.
Mind that's the only reason we're talking about it the

(20:36):
way we. Are BUT i do think it is worth
criticism and questioning somebody's character that they would make a
decision like.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
This Bobar buella is a guy that was supposed to
be Visiting washington this. Week there are three other guys
that along with that are ranked right along With. Williams
if you look at, two four to seven in The
Portal Lagway, Rayola Deuce, night and then There's Sam levit
up at the.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Top he's listened as the number one.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
Guy is there a guy in.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
That list or maybe somebody else that you think would
that you really like when you watch them play, Boy
they're all.

Speaker 7 (21:08):
INTERESTING i would Say Deuce npe for, me probably is
the most intriguing BECAUSE i think there could be a
ton of upside and we don't know really what he's all,
about and he played pretty good in the little time
we saw. Them where the other, QUARTERBACK Dj lagway's got some.
Baggage that's more of a reclamation, project, Right he's got a.

(21:29):
LIMIT i think his confidence has been, rattled and maybe
that's a reason whereas he goes from far as floid
as he can to go out To washington get a
new new, landscape you, know kind of start. Over Bo
prible is somebody THAT i do think fits, offensively is pretty,
mobile is pretty.

Speaker 5 (21:43):
Athletic he didn't throw it great.

Speaker 7 (21:45):
At miszoo like he still needs to take a next,
step and he was hurt a little.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Bit.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
Uh Sam, LEVITT i do think is probably the most
interesting case. Study but if you want to go look
at somebody else who also had a couple questionable things
that he, Did like he didn't show up to his
team awards dinner at the end of the year In Arizona.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
State like what.

Speaker 7 (22:04):
Type AND i think a lot of its teammates were
upset they didn't show. Up granted that's like today's, player
BUT i want somebody who's a little bit more about the.
Team SO i guess of all these, GUYS i kind
of like deuced night BECAUSE i don't feel like there's
any baggage yet all these, Players Dylan ryle is somebody
WHO i think is more hype than.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Substance you, know his play was not.

Speaker 7 (22:24):
Spectacular he's not real, Mobile like he's not a running,
quarterback so he's not going to give you that. Element
he's more traditional as a pocket, passer you. Know, so
AND i think he's somebody who went he went to
four different high schools and he's already. Transferring like all
these quarterbacks have baggage, nowadays it's just a matter of
which ones you can kind of deal with and maximize
for one.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Year well just to, me and Maybe i'm just being
an old fifty two year old petty boob Here, danny
but they all all right there with. You, yeah you
all start at the. Top they're all, quitters every single.
One they all quit their. Team, now now you gotta
find out why they, quit, right did did?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
They some of them? Right did they more good, reason bad, reason? Whatever?
Right exactly?

Speaker 5 (23:02):
Right and some of them LIKE i can pretty.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
Much you, KNOW i don't want to report, anything BUT
i do Think John, summral the New Kent hugs coach At,
florida had a meeting WITH Dj lagway and was, like
we're going in a different. Direction you can come back
if you. Want but you, know when you hear, that
as a, quarterback it's essentially getting. Cut that's probably what
happened At missouri With Bo privula, Too Like Matt zohler's
is the next, Quarterback like they kind of liked what

(23:25):
they saw of, him so and or they asked all
these quarterbacks to take massive pay, cuts and those all
these guys are, like not.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
Me i'm not going to take a pay.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
Cut somebody else is willing to pay me more THAN
i was, Making so why WOULDN'T i? Go, so you,
know it's really harder to evaluate you, know these, Players.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Danny, CANAL i know we got to run here in a,
Minute dick's got one more for you as, Well Danny
curtesy a bet online dot. Ag when it comes to college,
football what's the point of THE ncaa?

Speaker 7 (23:52):
Anymore, well that's ultimately when we, like if it gets
loud enough and the right people get. Upset maybe it's
the conference, commissioners maybe it's the head coachers, coaches maybe
it's the university. Presidents BUT i do think when we
actually get the structure that we need in, place it's
when football breaks away from THE ncaa and they have

(24:14):
their own entity that is separate from college basketball and
college baseball and all the non revenue, sports and they
fund themselves and they pay the, players and they have
a collectively bargained, asset and then the nci guess what
they can. Do they can go back to do what
they were supposed to do all, along which, is you,
know set up championships and force eligibility. Rules they are
in so over their head and that sport has moved

(24:36):
them so far by a lot.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Of it's their own.

Speaker 7 (24:38):
Doing like they did not evolve with the landscape and
with the, money so they found themselves in this. Position
BUT i do feel like and it's PROBABLY i would
say within five years we.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Will get that. Separation the question is.

Speaker 7 (24:51):
How many teams go with that new, league how many
teams do break? Away LIKE i feel really good about,
forty but is it as big as sixty is at
seventy and you see that. Breakaway that's the only question
to me is how many teams get to break away
in that new college football that we're gonna, SEE i
think within five.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
Years wrapping things up With Danny, canell there's four teams
left this year and they all play in the next
twenty four. Hours So miami And old miss getting set
in about a couple hours to. Play give us your
thoughts on that, one and Then oregon And indiana. Tomorrow
all of us here In seattle rooting for The.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Hoosiers, yeah, yeah of course you are right In.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
Oregon that's a big rivalry game right. THERE i do Like.
MIAMI i Think miami. IS i liked him coming into this.
PLAYOFF i had him all the way to the championship.
Game So i'm gonna stick with that. Pick ALTHOUGH i
thought they were gonna go Through. Georgia Ole missus quarterback
makes me. Nervous he's really. Elusive But miami's offensive and defensive,

(25:49):
line and specifically their defensive line with the two edge,
rushers which are really.

Speaker 5 (25:53):
Nasty they're. FAST i think they can track Down Todad.

Speaker 7 (25:56):
CHAMBLISS i Think miami controls the time of, possession you,
know wins the, game the physicality and the line of,
scrimmage AND i do Think miami wins and covers and
then on the other. One SO i Picked oregon coming
into this twelve team playoff to win it.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
ALL i thought they were coming together at the right.

Speaker 7 (26:13):
Time BUT i was just In miami AND i just
watched their offense and their defense was. Awesome BUT i
keep waiting for their offense to take the next, step
and they have not had a great performance all season.
Long and now they're supposed to do it Against. Indiana,
YEAH i don't trust them to do that. NOW i
do Like oregon with the three and a half points
BECAUSE i think it's gonna be a defensive.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
GAME i like the under in that.

Speaker 7 (26:35):
GAME i think it'll be more similar to what we
saw in The Big ten championship game When Indiana Ohio
state were lower scoring than it would be as far
As indiana lighting Up, Alabama i'm gonna say mostly defensive,
affair a lower scoring. Game SO i like the under
AND i do like The ducks with the.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Points hi, man he'pe you're wrong on, that big.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Boy yeah, yeah, yeah oh know you?

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Do oh, yeah you're.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
Right just want the? Points?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (27:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Good you don't get you know, What you don't give
a damn who wins and. Loses you want to just
catch that? TICKET i, got all, Right, danny great, stuff,
man love having you. On enjoy the game tonight and,
tomorrow and we'll talk. Soon Baseman saftie appreciate, it. Guys
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(27:23):
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Speaker 1 (27:46):
Fm all, right we are back here on A thursday
afternoon from the five twenty bar And Grail Mike holmgrean's
gonna join us coming up at four o'clock. Today big
thanks To Danny canal for jumping on the air with
us his two cents on the. Demand williams situation Likes
miami and Likes, indiana which is just fine by.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Me by the, way.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
The heck of a defensive battle in The Champions, well
you know, WHAT i don't EVEN i tell you. What
If indiana Beats oregon, TOMORROW i don't even care what
kind of game it.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
IS i don't care who wins the. Game i'll be
rooting For, indiana.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Just LIKE i was rooting For Ohio state a year,
ago because we owed it to them after the way
they Demolished oregon and The Rose. Bull but the only
thing that matters to me now is just getting those
sons of bitches out of the bracket and knocking them off.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Man so don't you agree with WHAT i said yesterday
that they're not as good a team as last?

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Year, yes BUT i also think the field's. Weaker so
that's what concerns.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
Me Is indiana really weaker Than Ohio state last.

Speaker 5 (28:39):
Year they.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Are, YEAH i just there's something About, indiana and maybe
it's because They're. INDIANA i just keep waiting for them
to Be indiana and they're Not.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
INDIANA i just Said indiana like.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Ten, times like they're they're offensive and defensive. Lines if
you if you took the eye off of their helmet
and put like An alabama number their helmet because you,
know red and, white whatever you, think, well that makes total.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Sense looks Like.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Alabama looks Like alabama are just crushing people on the
offensive and defensive. Line SO i gotta get over. THAT i,
mean look what they did To oregon down there was really.
Impressive what they did To alabama was really. IMPRESSIVE i
was on A fowler today on his, show and, he's,
man they, quit they quit Against. Dandyana he's just flipping,
on Like, Ryan indiana might be that. Good so maybe

(29:26):
we should wait until we see what happens in the
next couple of weeks before we start talking About alabama
quitting on those, guys which they may certainly have. DONE
i got no, idea, right But i'm fired up for.
Tonight i'm fired up for, tomorrow next. Weekend The. SEAHAWKS i,
mean the rumor is The hawks will play On, saturday
but that's nothing.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
Official Mike holmgren will join us here in a.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
SECOND i gotta tell, you, man What danny was saying
there About Demon. WILLIAMS i, mean he's questioning his character
after what he, did AND i don't think it's going
to really matter in the end to a college football.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Team somebody will want the.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Guy somebody will take the, guy and if he's good
enough to play in THE, nfl somebody will draft the.
Guy but it is absolutely. Unbelievable AND i was Telling
andrews this off the. Ear there's a small part of,
me and WHEN i mean, SMALL i mean like small
part of me that kind of a little bit feels
bad for the kid because he is surrounded by Dipstick,

(30:17):
city this, guy his mom and, dad this Moron landers
guy that went On twitter today That pete family is
like the Worldwide west of college back college. Football and
he puts a tweet out to basically convince the world
that he had nothing to do with The Demon williams.
Situation and he does it by including a screenshot of

(30:39):
a text exchange With demon's.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
DAD i was, like, well clearly you know the, dad
and clearly you know the.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Family and there's also a text line at the top
of the screen shot Where demon's father is, saying, yeah,
man you did nothing, wrong. Bro so he did, something
obviously did, something and he's using this as evidence that
he had nothing to do with.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
IT i, mean how dumb are these? People and this
kid is influenced by. Them no one wants to touch
Them On williams with a twenty foot pole right. Now
AND i kind of, like except for, we But Lane
kiffin And Dan williams deserve each, other don't.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
THEY i, mean that is the perfect.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
Marriage, YEAH i, MEAN i, LOOK i think he might
go somewhere and actually play pretty.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
Well right of, course we don't have a doubt that
he's not a GOOD i think.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
He's a good.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
PLAYER i think he'll go somewhere and he'll play pretty.
Well and IF lsu can't take, him then somebody else.
WILL i, mean you, know, Uh wilner was kind of
just for giggles kicking around the idea of him going To.
OREGON i don't think that's gonna happen BECAUSE i think
The Big ten would ever allow an interconference to transfer like.
That you, Know Tony pettiti and The Big ten are
already pissed off of THE. SEC i don't think this
would be happening if a guy was looking to transfer

(31:43):
from One Big ten school to. Another AND i also
don't Think dick would be happening if a guy was
looking to transfer from ONE sec school to. Another the
reason why this is, happening the reason Why Greg sanki
is not shutting this, down the reason why THE sec
commissioners and presidents are not shutting this, down it's because
it's in THE.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Sec what happens when it happens to AN sec team
and they go to A Big ten, team then great.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Sink you'll raise a, stink of.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
COURSE i mean he should really raise a stink about,
this to be perfectly honest with, you because it is
going to happen to one of his.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
TEAMS i think it's going to happen BECAUSE i think
THE sec is going to start losing and they're not
going to be. DOMINANT i, mean you're already seeing it right,
now right in college. FOOTBALL i, mean, look maybe All
miss shocks the world and they Beat miami. TONIGHT i
think the days of THE sec dominating college football they
kind of feel like they're starting to come to an, end, Right,
YES i, mean if this is a money, game is

(32:31):
there money in The south like there is in the
northeast and the west coast and the.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
Southwest of, course there's not money like. That and there's.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
Individual owners at individual. Schools there's not the massive corner.
Dollars is their money In? Louisiana is there money In?
Alabama is there money In? Mississippi, no of course.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Not they don't have the tech companies that we have
on this side of the country and all.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
That there's no the oil in The. Southwest they just
don't have.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
That.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Man SO i think THE sec is going to take
a step. Back AND i think the minute that starts to,
happen my that is AND i might be, wrong you
can tell me your, thoughts BUT i think the minute
THE sec, realizes oh, man this is not you, know
nineteen ninety eight, anymore they're going to agree to go
to a super league when that.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
HAPPENED i think you're, Right AND i think that's WHY
i think the commissioners should get together right now and
release a universal.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
Statement saying this is not going to be, tolerated.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Because every single one of these. Commissioners, right If demand
is allowed to do, this every single one of these
commissioners is going to have to deal with the Demand
williams here in the next five or ten.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Years, yeah, WELL i just it was funny having that
conversation With Danny caneal about THE NC. DOUBLEA i just
don't know what they do, anymore especially in, football, RIGHT
i mean in, basketball you know what they. Do they
run the most lucrative postseason tournament the country has to,
offer and that's THE Ncaa basketball, Tournament, Right BUT i
mean the portal doesn't mean, anything contracts don't mean.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
Anything they don't run the. Playoff the hell do they even?

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Do like when was the last time you even heard
from THE NC doublea in regard to? Football who's the
president of the NCUBLE?

Speaker 2 (34:02):
A off the top?

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Year how do you know?

Speaker 4 (34:03):
ANYMORE i have no idea How Mark emmert, Anymore.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Charlie baker Or Charlie barker or what. Man you're, RIGHT
i honestly don't even know who it. IS i would
not bet any money that that's. CORRECT i have no.
Idea he used to be a household name in. Sport
we would absolutely Know Miles brand back in the.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Day, yeah we would.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Absolutely know who THE ncuba president. Was and, anytime anytime he,
spoke it was. News right when he'd take the. Podium,
Hey Mark emmert's got an. Announcement blah blah blah blah.
Blah it was a big deal.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
With Mark emmert went from you dubbed the nc Double.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Charlie baker is the president of the N c DOUBLE
a is a former two term governor Of. Massachusetts and
he is the president of the N c DOUBLE. A
AND i don't even know what he looks like or
what his voice sounds.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
LIKE i have NO i pressed you remembered the Name.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
God, unbelievable, Dude it's.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Wacky.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Man they just say they are just totally irrelevant. Now
they do, Nothing they have no, authority they have no
impact over. Anything this is truly the inmates running the
asylum in college.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Football but the ratings are, great, right talked about that, day.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Fantastic both bull season ratings are up like thirteen percent
from a year. Ago it's the highest rate of bull
season in a. Decade, so so why is, that? Right,
like why are ratings so good right? Now for college?
Football you get people seem so pissed a couple of reasons.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Drama drama encourages. Ratings uh, right bad?

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Talk good bad talk encourages ratings even more than good
talk encourages. Ratings and the quality of the product is
awesome because you don't have as many players leaving early
in THE. Nfl, yeah they're just better football teams right
now in college than there were ten years.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Ago somebody needs to look, up Because i'm too lazy
to do. It is attendance up to in college? Football,
like because it's one thing that a lot.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Of stadiums it can't get anymore because they're always sold.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Well But i'm just, saying, like in, general are are
more people going to? Games is attendance? Up our donations?
Up or is you know all? That or people donating?
More because ratings is one, Thing like any schmuck consider
at home will watch a college football game in their
living room if they got five bucks on the.

Speaker 2 (35:59):
Game but is every anything else? Down or less.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
People going to games or less people donating to? UNIVERSITIES
i got no. Idea all, Right Mike, hongrin by the,
way gonna join. US i haven't seen him in a
couple of. Weeks he looks pretty. Good he's got a
brand new plaid shirt, on brand new. Haircut looks. Great
we'll talk To Mike. Hongren seahawks are a week, away
week and a half away from their first playoff. Game
we got to Get mike's take on this To Mont
williams story. Too coming up next from the five Twenty

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