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Speaker 1 (00:01):
He's Benz Interview Lounge. That's right, it's the Mercedes Benz
Interview Lounge. Here we are, We're in the interview lounge.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Hello.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
So it asked me the other day, like, where is
that in the building. So it's the same room. We
just changed the logo behind me.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I knew why. We were like, oh, we walked so
far to get that.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Wait down the hallway of the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.
WHOA how about her breath? Hey, it was what six
years ago? Said I don't even know how many years
ago it was. Grace vander Wall was on our show.
She played a concert for us here in town, and
she was full of talent and just fun. She definitely
marches to the beat of her own drum, which we love.
(00:39):
We love people who lean into what they're all about.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
So now she's back. She has this new song we're
going to debut. We're gonna premiere for you in a
few moments. She's in a new film coming out that
has every big star known to man in Hollywood in
this film, and she wrote music for the film. I know, crazy,
We're not worthy anyway, it's been years. I just wanted
to bring her in. Let's up with Grace vander wall
where's Grace? Where does she bring her in? Bring me Grace?
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Come on.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
She's carrying her stuffed animal with her. She's saying hello
to the masses, even though there's four of us here. Hello. Hello.
You're practice seeing for the red carpet for the movie.
Welcome to the show. You look adorable.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Oh my god, thank you. I'm like, I was like,
I'm gonna look like such a diva. But guys, my
eyes are like so swollen right now I wake up
at noon.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Okay, so jealous. So you're wearing sunglasses to cover that up.
You're fine, You're safe with us, Okay, usually we usually
we request people to take them off.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Well, it depends on who you are.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Well, who was it? It was Acon or who wasn't?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
No, it was Tyle Cruise.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, you wouldn't take your sunglasses off.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
That's the point anyway. So, Grace, it was years ago.
I mean, it's you're an old story for you, But
I just want to bring everyone up to speed. Okay,
I think it's fair. Okay, it was never It was
the eleventh season of America's Got Talent? And you won that,
and you're I remember you came to our show and
you brought a ukulele and you sang. And now I've
heard that the ukulele ukulele you actually like bashed it
(02:10):
on the stage. You never want to play a ukulele. No,
oh my god, ukuleles are just not your thing anymore.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
That isn't absolutely not true.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I'm just making stuff up.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I know you are.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I know.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
One of the songs we play don't know my name
to listen to it, It's okay. How come you don't
want to hear the old songs.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Like putting water on like a witch? It's alphaba.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Okay, okay, it's off, it's off forture.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I'm so sorry, guys, there's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It's just you know, Okay, we move on. If you know,
if someone plays tapes as they call them, of my
old radio shows, I'm like, same.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah, exactly, yeah, No, I don't want to hear that.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I'm with you, okay, now I understand. I'm leaning into
your pain. Oh my god, I know so uh. But
you know, growing up trying to get things rolling in
this business, did you did you have a childhood? I mean,
did you what the childhood you had was all? You know?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah? Was it?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Was it normal compared to others that you know of now,
like what was it? What was your life?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Like?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Well, oh god, it was. I don't know. Honestly, I
like don't remember anything.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You really don't like.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Don't remember anything.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
But yeah, it would have been like very abnormal even
despite the work. Honestly, I feel like that just added
normalcy into my life. But you know, the weird thing
is that like development will stay development though like the
natural things that everyone you know goes through, I still
(03:49):
went through, just on a different scale. So like I
always say, when I was like on tour and stuff,
like Engineer and crew were like my cool seniors that
I looked up to, So like my brain still worked
in that way of like you know, but just in
a different setting, which ended up affecting who I am
now as an adult, which I appreciate in a really
(04:11):
great way, like artistic integrity wise, because you know, I
wasn't like really looking up to I had such a
look on the inside that yeah, I'm not really looking
up to whatever the kids.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Are listening to right now, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
So Sabrino Carpenter I guess she's like the pop star
right now. I was like looking up to producers and
engineers and kind of artists in the background. I was like,
you guys are cool, you're you know my year now
my like defined coolness.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Well they.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah yeah. And it affected me in
like a really cool way. I like who I am.
I think that like I value I value the things
that I would like to value, which definitely annoyed some
people in the past because they had like this really
set path for me, and like, I think they really
want me to be like, oh yeah, like I want
(05:02):
to you know, do all of this like major you know,
across the board, like here's my smart water and here's
my new pop song and I love everyone right, And
I was like and I was like, oh wait, no,
like I kind of want to like do this or
experimenter go that way.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
And they're like, well, well, And that's the thing, Grace.
We're learning more and more of these days, especially with
documentaries that are out about how kids who were in
the entertainment business, how they really had no choice with
their direction. Somewhat they were told to do this, told
to do that, maybe forced to play ukulele I don't know,
you know, I don't know, but it's it's not all fun.
(05:40):
It's not all funny games for a lot of these
people who are now grown up and trying to like
figure it out beyond those days.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, I would say I went through that confusion and
grievance long ago. Okay, Yeah, it's not really something that
I'm like going through now. And also it really really
wasn't that, you know, violent in any way. I think
that they really just rode the wave of what was
naturally happening, and like, like I said, like there were
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things behind the scenes that were also influencing this weird
brand that was naturally occurring that they were just like
let's ride that wave. So hey, no shade to them,
But I mean yeah, then on a personal scale, you're
definitely right where you're just like I, you know, I
have like I think that there's a really common denominator
(06:30):
of like this gifted child syndrome where you like you excel,
but you're excelled as a child, and that's always what
you're commended by, So that's what you always base.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Your worth off of.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It's like, oh, I am worthy because I am I
am an accelerated child. But then what happens is you're
so used to being excelled as a child that you
end up actually plateauing and everyone surpasses you in adulthood.
So then in adulthood you no longer have that thing
that you base your whole identity on.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Now you're just an.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Oh look at that using she used the brown word,
the dump button. Take it's okay, she used the brown word. Hey,
moving on though, Okay, let's let's forget about then. Let's
talk about now, because here you are twenty years old, right,
and uh gosh, new music. You're working on the album.
(07:25):
But we have a song we're gonna world premiere in
a few minutes, and we already heard it in the room.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
It's so good.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah, we we opened it up and listened early. Sorry, no,
I love it, and we love it.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I actually heard it playing.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
And also the film Megalopolis, which is coming out September
twenty seventh, for a couple Francis for a couple have
been working on this thing for forty years and it
has every every actor in there that wants to be
in a Frank Francis for a couple of films, And
you so you are in this. How pivotal is this
(07:57):
role that you played in this? What? What is the
role all?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
It's I feel like it's a small role in the movie, honestly,
and like I'm.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Actually getting so.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I mean everyone around me is like no, it's not, No,
it's not and I'm like okay, but yeah, I'm like
so worried because I mean, I'm obviously not gonna say
no to like the carpets and stuff, like I'm you know,
if I'm invite, I'm gonna go. But I'm just like, dang,
I think people think I'm like a main character this well,
which I am not.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
You have music in it too, though, So yeah, does
that happen? Do you say, hey, I want to contribute
to this or do they come to you and say, hey,
do you think you can give us something?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
No, Just like Francis is just such a set characters.
Mister mister for Cobola himself. He was talking about the
movie to me and I was just like okay, and
he's just telling.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Me all about this movie that he's making, and.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
He like goes in on my character, and like, I
think that he just decided that I'm the character.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I was even part of the process.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
All of a sudden, he just starts talking like, oh
and you know, and I was like, okay, so.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I mean he could make it work.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
I was like, there are.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Two songs, are you like assuming that I'm gonna write those?
He's like, oh, yeah, well of course, And I continued.
I was like, oh, okay, I guess I'm just signed
up for this.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
No, I'm just sort to do twos. That's a big
contribution for a big film.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Well, see, now you sound like my team.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
I mean, did you did you have to audition for
this or did you know?
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I was pretty much scouted out And then I basically
I don't know if this is what he had to
do for everyone. I know for other people who were
being considered for the role went the exact same way,
where it was more of just coming in for a discussion.
I didn't even know what we were talking about. My
management at that time was like, Francis Rocobla wants to
like talk with you, as I was just like, well, yes,
(09:56):
I was just like okay, all right. I was like
coming in like what, yeah, exactly the heck is going on?
Speaker 1 (10:04):
But Grace, obviously Grace to be fair, I mean, your
name obviously was out there that I think she I
think we have an artist here who would like to
consider being in a role in a film, and then
all of a sudden, fresh just for a couple of says,
I'd like, I'd like to have a discussion with you. Okay, god,
I mean hello.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Well, Also, I think that when you watch the movie,
like there are components to her character that I think
I was like, I can like personally relate to that
and exaggerate that on a large scale, like I was
like attached to the dimension of the character, which I
think because I think like there was like a dance component,
(10:44):
and I remember, you know, I got close to like
the team around the thing because I just like people,
and they were like considering like majority dancers before me,
Like that's how much they wanted it to be like
a dance roles.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I was watching you dance out here? Does she dance?
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Well?
Speaker 2 (11:05):
You guys are like, ell are we I'm sorry that
will get me hype no matter what.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Okay, Well, so I mean it is acting something you
want to continue to roll through? Is this something or
just case by case basis?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I think it's a case by case basis.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, I'm stealing that. I will be using that in
the future.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
No, you know, it's not always. Look, there are a
lot of people out there who are starving to act
in anything, be it stage or film or whatever, and
there are some people who go, you know what if
it's something that interests me, Yeah, okay, exactly, and it's
interested you.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, that's exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Interest to see this film. It's getting standing ovations around
the world, and yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Honestly, I'm excited for people to see it. I'm like,
I'm happy to even be somewhat.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
A part of it.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
There you go, I want to I love hearing that
because a lot of people they do these things like,
but you just said that, No, you just said. This
part that you play it has several components. A lot
of people in that film don't have one component. So
this is good. This is good. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Do
you think because you look back at the first song
that we played it made you cringe? Does it make
you cringe because you feel like you've come so far
from that and you don't even identify with that person anymore?
(12:15):
Or did you just hate the song?
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Well, okay, no, I don't hit the song. I don't
hit the.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Songs you hits like apossum, I must agree like a possum. No,
I think that just I think that people don't take
like the humanism aspect of it. And it's just my
talent show. Like it's just my talent show. So you know,
(12:43):
I think that if we pulled up most people's sixth
grade talent show, they'd probably be.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Like, oh god, no, d sixth grade talent.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I had no talent, but you won the entire talent
show with that. You want the word teleing show, Yeah, exactly.
I don't know. I don't think it's cringe. I'm like,
I'm my guys, just ignore me, don't read into it.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Okay, I'm melting like someone who just poured water on
a witch. I'm gonna I'm gonna borrow that quote. By
the way, all right, I want to play your song.
I want you to play It's called what, and it's
gonna happen whether you like that what It's called What's
left of Me? What is left of and so is
(13:27):
it what is left of me? Or what? What? Okay?
What's all right? And this is a world premiere, by.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
The way, world premiere.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
It's not even like out out. I think it's coming
out of like what one PM or something?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Right, look at that, So we're early. So but wait,
there's an album to follow, Yes, and you're already working
on music for that. It's done well, so who it's
wrapped up with a bow. Who gets to push the
button on that and say it's out? I mean there's
a date? No, no date?
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Well, there is a date, but it's not announced yet.
There's like a whole like strategic plan.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
They do this. They do this too. They're like, well,
we can't announce it, Well what should announce? I mean,
not you, but in particular all artists.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Because you basically what you're doing is you're just setting
up as much anticipation as possible.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So you want to wait until you've heard it.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
You're like, it's like a street like breakdancer, you know,
they start kind of going like this to everyone. They're
not just gonna start break dancing and like ruin all
their energy.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Now we gotta draw in a little bit of a.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Crowd, all right, I get it?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Oh god, Okay, So I can't cuss and you can
say that on the morning radio.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Penis you can.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Say that too, but you can say Penis, I love.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Is this like a conversation that's been discussed. We have
to say penis that often, but they needed to be discussed.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Here is an Elvis you're in meeting behind the scenes.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
We need to have the penis meeting. Hold on, this
is kind of funny. Grace is local to suffer Many,
Rockland County. Everyone. Everyone's so proud of it. But someone
said that their sister was your second grade teacher. Every
do you remember who your second grade teacher was? I
(15:16):
don't remember.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I remember mine.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Wait, I feel like I do, though, because I remember
loving my second grade teacher.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
See, this is good. That's all you have to say.
You don't have to give a name. You gave something
more powerful than that. So you are locally you're from
this area originally?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Eup.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, you've been everywhere, though.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I am loyal to New York though.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, do you live here? To you live in LA?
Where do you live?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Honey? I live in New York, all right.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I don't blame it.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And everyone is like, I'm like, no, okay, never the death.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Because it's so nice, peaceful here.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I know, it's just peaceful. I just love just sleeping
in the quiet.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, there is no such thing. Okay, it's time to
world premiere the new single, and we want to thank
you for coming in today and enjoy conquering everything you're
going to conquer. I can't wait to see the film.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Thank you. I hope everyone really likes the song. Wait
we're live? Right?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Okay? Hi everyone? Are you in your car?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
If you are, here's a song that you might like
driving to going through a tough time, hate men, Here
you go.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
It's a song for all of us.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
All right, it's a song for the people.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
All right. This is Grace vndor Wall and what's the fact.
Thank you for coming in today.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Thank you guys.