November 26, 2025 • 20 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It was nine years ago Callum Scott first met us
in this room to talk about his hit, of course,
dancing on my own?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, was it ranted as long.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
As it's been nine years? Oh, we'll do the maths, okay, January,
what are we gonna do for the ten year on
the vase? I don't know what are we gonna do.
We gotta come up with something. And then of course,
uh then you are the reason came out later. That's
Gandhi's favorite. I love that song so much, and that
was the song you're supposed to sing at my wedding,
which you didn't do. I'm so sorry about that. Okay,
(00:36):
I'll make him too when you read you your vouse Okay,
Well that's kidding so out of nowhere. I was flipping
around Instagram not that long ago, and I see you
doing this duet with Whitney Houston when I danced with somebody,
and I'm like, how did he get permission to do that?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
No, I know, very casually just performing with Houston. I
was on top with a cheering you know, him up
and coming out. Are you dropping names? Yeah? I also
sang for the King of the Country. But I saw that, Yeah,
it's coronation, which is crazy. But I was tying with
the cheering and I was singing in these stadiums and
it was really crazy. And I was singing dance on
my own and I did a little chorus of I
want to Dance to Somebody because the lyrics are like
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almost the same song. You know, I'm dancing on my own.
I want to dance to somebody, And it just it
just went wild. And so a video of that made
its way to the Houston Estate and Pat Houston, Whitney's
sister in law, had reached out personally and said, we
love this. Would you like the original vocal to work?
Could do it with Wow? And it's the first time
the state have ever done it. They've never released head
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vocal for a duet.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So it's it's pretty Yeah, I mean, it's the honor
of my career.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, you know, but there's some serious stuff. I mean,
it's very Dodge Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Is so you didn't want to tinker with it at all, you.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Know, I didn't want to tinker at all. I was like,
how can I do this without doing too much.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It can be too tinkering.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, I exactly, I didn't want to tinker too hard.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Well, you know what I will say.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The Houston estate and the Houston family have been so lovely.
They gave us all the creative control. You know. Of
course I did what com Scott would do, and I
made a pop song sound extremely sad. So what I
did with dance on my own to continue to do, yeah,
superpower now making it depressed. Yeah, but I just I
put a string section around it and we and we
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didn't slow it down. We didn't change our vocal. There's
actually some of the things on her vocal, like from
when she was in the recording studio recording the actual song,
and you can hear the beat from the from the
bleed and her headphones.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Oh that's that's that's crazy. It's like you get yeah,
I guess so. By the way, this song we're talking
about is on your your latest album, and look at that,
you know, you know, speaking of France, I saw you
perform in Paris. Remember that we came to that show
as a truck.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Of era or whatever. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah that was
a while ago, too.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Good God, how old are we?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And I know. I'm I'm like literally coloring in my gravest.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Wait till you get this age, then you get in touch.
He still smells amazing. Daniel sniffed Gandhi. She did it again.
She's sniffing our guests.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I know it makes you feel any better. I've been
covering the gray in my beard since I was nineteen.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But stop. Well, you know both Gandhi and Danielle have
a lot of facial hair. Yes, I do not know.
I do not. Now, let me tell you something else
we should be celebrating tomorrow. Is that Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade.
And I want to tell you something. You may not
know this, but growing up in America as we did,
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it's on in every single household in America. Very rarely
would someone forget to turn on turn on NBC and
watch this parade.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
We may not be watching it, but we're cooking and
it's always on in the background.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So it's I literally invited to everyone's table basically, yeah,
but in the background watching.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It is.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
He's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
As a kid, I mean, as old as I am,
I remembers it's been around for hundreds of thousands of years.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I think the next year, the hundred year or something
something like that.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
This is where it's the rockets too, yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Or is it the rocket?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
You should be a rocket. That's what I've seen you
in heels. Listen rock a pair of heels.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I will say that it is extremely difficult to walk
in them, and I prays anybody who can't.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, we did it once.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
We had the guys wear heels in the studio the
whole morning.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I don't know how you guys do it.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It was a little too natural with them. I was
sorry anyway. So you are on your own float performing?
Are you performing? When I dance with somebody?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I'm performing on a dance to somebody. I'm on the
linked float chocolate? So I better get free chocolate balls
for life, I'm telling you now.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, I better get him who hasn't had chocolate balls.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
He says, Christmas more like chocolate balls.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Tells us it's a good old fashioned Christmas miracles chocolate bar.
Are you nervous?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yes, I'm pouring myself.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I would like to know how it works though. Do
you pre record the track and then you sing to
the track or you singing live on the floor because
they stop at that one, you know, the grandstand.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I think he's going to divulge it. I'm singing live. Yeah,
I will be singing live. I'm telling you, are you Yeah, I'll.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Be singing live. Yeah for sure?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Good be it.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, of course I will.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I will do my best for America. Okay, okay, well,
don't get nervous. It's because you know we're gonna be
shooting love right at you.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Thank you so much. I honestly feel like it's such
an honor, you know, Like I said, I got to
sing for the King for the coronation, and I feel
like this is the equivalent, you know, singing for all
of the Americans who are there Thanksgiving celebrating with their families,
and I get to be a little part of that
is a honor.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It is a big It is mean. I've never been
invited to be it's a silly little parade. Well that
would be kind of It's nice to know someone we
got some skin in the game.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, I try.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I'll try and get you on my floor if you want, Oh.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Oh my god, do it dressed up like a chocolate ball,
showed to be the left one of the right one. Okay,
if you're just turning his on Callum Scott is here.
We're celebrating of course this album Evanoir and of course
he's going to be on a float in the parade.
Let's talk about Thanksgiving. Now, you grew up hearing about
this thing we do over here. But when didn't you
first learn about American Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I remember when I was right in my I think
it was my second album. Is the only time I've
ever been in America for Thanksgiving? And it was when
everybody that I was within the airbnb had gone home
and some one of my friends from Tampa felt sorry
for me, so she sent me a pumpkin pie and
alone and that I was. I said, Thanksgiving, isn't that
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great for me in my personal opinion?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
But the pumpkin pie was salty from your tears.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But yeah, it's it's a huge tradition. I mean, we
do this every Sunday in the UK, you don't. We
just call it Sunday Roast. No, it's not the same thing. No,
we have history backing this up. Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You know, all the Europeans came over and spread disease
and stole land.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Sorry for that.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Then we got it back with that tea party.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Don't get mad. I'm not gonna get him up too soon.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
That's too soon, too soon. Thanksgivings, I mean, you guys
really go in on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
So you wouldn't be celebrating Thanksgiving over there. But we
did celebrate Halloween in London one that was a failure.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I was so boring you do anything, and I was like,
what's going on?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
No, I know, I know, but we do have them.
We have this thing called bomfi and I which is
I guess it is your Fourth of July in the
sense that I.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Guess you wouldn't be celebrating Fourth of July or there.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I know, we need to just bring out all your
traditions to us.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
You have now don't celebrate enough, right, But you're celebrating
the fact that we totally crap canned.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You in war. This is true.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Took away your colonies.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Are we still bitter about this little? A little? Now?
What what hollidays do you have there that we really
should be thinking about stealing? The boxing day? You don't
do boxing, know, don't rather wrestle? You don't do boxing day? No,
what's it's not a fight thing? What is it? No?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
No, no, No, it's like a return day you right,
isn't it like something about your returning every turn like
everything the sails.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And also you have all the leftovers. Yeah, you do,
Like you bang everything that you had in the roast
in a sandwich and you have that and you watch
movies all day, and I guess you guys do that, right,
I'm boxing.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
We call it just going back and standing on a
line and return some crap.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Ok, give me another. There's gotta be some guy, Fox
Night guy.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
What does he do?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
What isn't isn't isn't? I think that celebrates k E s.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, we're celebrating the guy who tried to blow up
the houses of Parliament something like that. Manager to I
don't know if celebrating him so much as celebrating that
didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm very familiar.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Tuesday Pancake Day.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Pancake Day is fun, talk about it. I can get pancakes,
make people.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I mean, I don't know what shrove is, but I
know what pancake Day is. Pancake Day. You just you
just make pancakes around Easter time, right, Yeah, and you've
got and my pancake is uh is lemon juice and
then some sugar. But you roll up and you eat
with a knife and fall. If you eat your pancake
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with with your hands, you're barbarian?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Can Okay? Can you tell I'm married to a bridge
and I know all that? You know all of them?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Do you know more?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
What else is that? What is he missing from homeland?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
You guys do even Newsday right, especially in New York
with the whole the ball.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Get that ball no chocolate on it though? Okay, callum,
let's talk about Evant this album now, I've I've been
digging into this album. This is this is you know,
you're tapping into some emotional stuff with this album and
the term Evan why we were totally freaked out looking
at life moving backwards? How do you Gardhi? What was
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your take on it?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
It was pretty much what you just said, looking at memories,
but from a different angle. So looking back and thinking
about how you're going to appreciate these things because now
you know that they're gonna happen so you can appreciate
them more.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Is that it?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, it's me. I'm basically came from a little bit
of a doom scroll. I mean, I guess I was
probably sat on the toilet at the time, and I'm
just looking through.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I'm so sorry, and then this says dumb there, No,
don't make me push the dump.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Don't press the dumb button. I'm scrolling through and I
see this word avanoar and it says the desire to
see your memories in advance. And I was like, WHOA.
So I like looked into it more. And there's this
book by a guy called John Koenig, and he's creating
new terms, and his take on it is we moved
through life like a rower moves, so we move forward,
but we can only see where we've been right, we
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can't see where we're going. And his theory is, wouldn't
it be crazy to be able to turn around your
boty and see your memories coming towards you, Like you'd
know what your wedding day would look like, you'd know
the day your kids were born.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
But you want to see.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So I thought it was really thought provoking. I was like,
oh my god, imagine And then I thought, actually, the
ten years I've had in this business, I never saw
any of it coming. And that's what makes it magical
for me. So I think the magic of life is
not knowing much around the corner. It makes it. It
makes you ambitious, it makes you dream big, it makes
you nervous, and I think it's all the human traits
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of just us and what we anticipate. So I think
for me, it was more like it's more of a
reminder to live in the present and to take stock
of what you have and to be grateful for it
and to enjoy it because we can't control the future,
and you know, we can't control our past.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So I think it's a wonderful concept.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
It's a very thought provoking one.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
It sounds like an episode of what's that show that
we watch all the time?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Not Mirror Mirror. Yeah, it's very.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Black, really totally, Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It is I meaning the end of a movie. You
never want to do that, You just want to watch
the movie rise exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I do that really what I'll read it like the
last ten pages of a book.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Oh, I hate that people do that. People read the
end of the book first, Why would you do that.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
To piss you off? Let me add let me add
another level to it. Let's say I am Let's say
I'm gonna go on a date with someone. Okay, I
would love to move my head forward and look backward
to the what that date looked like, even though it
hasn't happened yet. Can you understand what I'm saying you could?
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Can you help create what these great moments in your
future life will be by pretending to be ahead of
it and looking back and creating what the result will be?
No one understands what the hell.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Think I think?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I'm going to psychosis? We should eat some really heavy
pot gummies and come back to Okay, So all in
this album, I know you have some great ballads on here. Yeah,
you're making a sad I'm making you sad and making
you smack? Is there such thing as a happy ballad?
You could do that?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I get touching ballad?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Okay, so there is a song on that. With every
album I try and put like my on it. Well,
I do put my honesty in there. And my first
album it was definitely about the struggles I had with
my sexual identity and everything. The second album was more
about my mental health and this album, I feel like
I have kind of made peace with a lot of things.
So when I was making this album, I was like, right,
what do I want to what honesty can I share
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that's deeper than the rest of the songs. And the
only other thing I want to do that I haven't
done is to be a dad. So I wrote a
song called Mad, which is my love letter to my
future baby.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Oh see see what you're doing. So there you can
look at your baby being born. There you go, it's
been born yet that you know of.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I mean, I might have hundreds, but I really want
to be a dad. And I wrote this little song
and and and it's and it's it's a happy ballad.
It's a happy ballad.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You know. It's interesting because I had dinner. I had
a dinner with Callum years ago when first met, and
we talked a lot about your mom. Remember that.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, she's so amazing. She was on tour with me. Yeah,
I just finished my European tour and she was there
as a head of wardrobe.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I kind of job. Did she choose this fabular today?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
She did? She steemed it. But yeah, she's she's She
was incredible. And it was so nice for the boys
as well, because as a band, you know, everybody's you know,
leaving behind their kids and their parents and their and
their partners. So to have like a mum roll on
the tour was just really beautiful and everybody felt really
and she's she's so fun and she's she's always got
a drink in her hand.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
She like. Okay, we go back to the song mad
in thoughts of being a dad one day. Where does
mad come from?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Well, I guess on a deep level, my my dad
wasn't around so much when I was late, so I
kind of it's you know, I've grown up with all
sorts of you know, not feeling good enough and all
this kind of stuff. I don't want to deep it
too much in the morning, but yeah, I've had that
and I kind of really want to right that wrong.
And I want to be able to have my own
baby and show them what it is to be loved
and to kind of be the dad that I never had.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, yeah, I want you to be my dad. Okay.
So the album, of course, Evan one, You've got to
pick us up. It has a lot of a lot
of interesting storylines in this thing. Does be so proud
of this.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I'm so proud of it. I'm so happy with how
the album turned out because we, like I said, the
songs came easier and I did worry about that first,
I'm like, good things take time, and they good things
are usually difficult to come by. But I think it's
just because I've I've entered a stage of my life
where I'm like ten years in now and never ever
from when I stood on that stage and audition for
Britain's Got Talent. Never dreamt that ten years later I'd
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be three albums in Third World Tour, having jeeted with
Whitney Houston, sang to the King, supported it, sharing, like
all of these things are just so crazy to me.
And I think whilst I was writing the album, I
kind of finally accepted that I am good enough and
that I do deserve to be here.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I am, but we've been telling you this a long
but tell yourself you yeah, youn't matter?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, And I finally kind of made peace with that,
And now I think the music sounds as confident as
as I feel.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, Gandhi, what.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
You've done a lot of really cool stuff because you
just listed all of it like bucket list things that
you probably didn't even think. We're on a bucket list.
But do you have another thing that you think this?
If this thing happens, I will feel so good.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Oh, I mean, apart from coming here again. Obviously this
is the top of my list, I am. I mean,
obviously I would love to do it with Adell's always
be my thing, Okay, I just don't know if the
world could take it, just throwing it out there, just
going out there manifest Yeah, I mean it would be.
It would be amazing. And having sword with a cheering
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and and and Todd in stadiums. I think to have
my own stadium show would be just the dream. Wow,
I mean that would be It would be so cool.
I used to think, like I used to stand in arenas,
you know, when we're supporting other artists, and I used
to think, there's no way I'd ever have my own
show yet. And then I just stood in Lithuania and
performed to nine thousand people. I was just sobbing, just
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at the idea of like I remember being I saw that,
I saw the video you posted, yeah, and it's like now,
you know, then I think to myself, well, the sky
is the limit. I think when you believe in yourself,
you really kind of achieved them as things.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Okay, Callum Scott Evan, well ready, yeah, you're walking off
the stage just performing at your own Stadium headlining tour.
You just left a crowd of thirty forty thousand people
who are all singing along to your songs, knew every lyric.
You're walking off that stage. You don't make me cry,
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had a great food, what a feeling? Huh?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I mean it would be the owner of my life.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
See you just went there.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, it's I mean like I'm speechless even just at
the thought of its friends stadium.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Can we go back to edge turn one second? Did
he ever give you a penis statue? Apparently we got one.
We got one, and his gift to people, I mean I.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Didn't Oh wow, I would have liked that.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Have you seen the ones he's given people in the
one that gives all John Yeah, there was a knock
at the door one day and this guy walked in
with this massive box. It is from London. What is
this not even a note? You just open it up.
It's a big old black penis. It's it's a statue. It'
hidden We're gonna put in the garden, but it's hidden
in a in a put it in because people, if
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you know what I'm saying, No, you know, people show
it to work on the house. I think there's a
big penis to sit in there. I'm like, we got it.
We can't sleave that up for the kids. Yeah, okay,
So tomorrow big day for Callum Scott and all of us,
the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade. You're gonna be just having a
great time there. And talk about your affair with New
York City. What is it about the city that you
just you like or hate because it's a love hate thing.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
This.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I mean, it's this. It's the city of dreams, I think,
isn't it. It's you just walk in you just think
there's so much opportunity. There's just there's a there's a
feeling of dreams in the air that are being made
or created or just even be manifested. I remember coming
here for the first time. I've just written it in
your book. Actually, I remember coming here for the first time,
and I was so nervous, so nervous, and yeah, I
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came in here and you made me feel so welcome
and so supported. And I've felt that support from you
and the team and from the station ever since. And
it just means it makes me think that every single
time I come in, I just I have that magic
in my bones and it's because of you guys. You
know it really is.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
You're the one that brings the magic. Oh no, we
just sit here and soak it up. May I read
what you said? Please? He says in the book, Wow
Elvis in team. I remember walking in here in twenty seventeen.
I was excited, nervous. I knew how many people were
tuned in, and you guys made me feel so comfortable
and at home. Ever since then, I felt that unwavering support.
And I am so grateful for you guys. I never
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take these opportunities for granted. Lots of love always and
that this is your signature, Callum Scott. I guess it's
what that says. It is like mine. I love that.
Thank you. Will cherish this forever. Just play the song,
shall we?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yes? Please?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
You'll hear this on the float tomorrow if you're at
the Thanksgiving parade, or just watch it on NBC. I'm
gonna dance with somebody. Go ahead, set the song up
before we play it. Oh my god, what the radio
guy say?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think I've introduced it yet.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I don't do it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I haven't done it. New York and America is my
pleasure to announce this song with the incredible voice of
Whitney Houston and myself Callum Scott, with I want to
Dance with Somebody.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
There you go.
Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It was nine years ago Callum Scott first met us
in this room to talk about his hit, of course,
dancing on my own?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, was it ranted as long.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
As it's been nine years? Oh, we'll do the maths, okay, January,
what are we gonna do for the ten year on
the vase? I don't know what are we gonna do.
We gotta come up with something. And then of course,
uh then you are the reason came out later. That's
Gandhi's favorite. I love that song so much, and that
was the song you're supposed to sing at my wedding,
which you didn't do. I'm so sorry about that. Okay,
(00:36):
I'll make him too when you read you your vouse Okay,
Well that's kidding so out of nowhere. I was flipping
around Instagram not that long ago, and I see you
doing this duet with Whitney Houston when I danced with somebody,
and I'm like, how did he get permission to do that?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
No, I know, very casually just performing with Houston. I
was on top with a cheering you know, him up
and coming out. Are you dropping names? Yeah? I also
sang for the King of the Country. But I saw that, Yeah,
it's coronation, which is crazy. But I was tying with
the cheering and I was singing in these stadiums and
it was really crazy. And I was singing dance on
my own and I did a little chorus of I
want to Dance to Somebody because the lyrics are like
(01:18):
almost the same song. You know, I'm dancing on my own.
I want to dance to somebody, And it just it
just went wild. And so a video of that made
its way to the Houston Estate and Pat Houston, Whitney's
sister in law, had reached out personally and said, we
love this. Would you like the original vocal to work?
Could do it with Wow? And it's the first time
the state have ever done it. They've never released head
(01:39):
vocal for a duet.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
So it's it's pretty Yeah, I mean, it's the honor
of my career.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, you know, but there's some serious stuff. I mean,
it's very Dodge Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Is so you didn't want to tinker with it at all, you.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Know, I didn't want to tinker at all. I was like,
how can I do this without doing too much.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It can be too tinkering.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, I exactly, I didn't want to tinker too hard.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Well, you know what I will say.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
The Houston estate and the Houston family have been so lovely.
They gave us all the creative control. You know. Of
course I did what com Scott would do, and I
made a pop song sound extremely sad. So what I
did with dance on my own to continue to do, yeah,
superpower now making it depressed. Yeah, but I just I
put a string section around it and we and we
(02:25):
didn't slow it down. We didn't change our vocal. There's
actually some of the things on her vocal, like from
when she was in the recording studio recording the actual song,
and you can hear the beat from the from the
bleed and her headphones.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Oh that's that's that's crazy. It's like you get yeah,
I guess so. By the way, this song we're talking
about is on your your latest album, and look at that,
you know, you know, speaking of France, I saw you
perform in Paris. Remember that we came to that show
as a truck.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Of era or whatever. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah that was
a while ago, too.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Good God, how old are we?
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And I know. I'm I'm like literally coloring in my gravest.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Wait till you get this age, then you get in touch.
He still smells amazing. Daniel sniffed Gandhi. She did it again.
She's sniffing our guests.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I know it makes you feel any better. I've been
covering the gray in my beard since I was nineteen.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But stop. Well, you know both Gandhi and Danielle have
a lot of facial hair. Yes, I do not know.
I do not. Now, let me tell you something else
we should be celebrating tomorrow. Is that Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade.
And I want to tell you something. You may not
know this, but growing up in America as we did,
(03:40):
it's on in every single household in America. Very rarely
would someone forget to turn on turn on NBC and
watch this parade.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
We may not be watching it, but we're cooking and
it's always on in the background.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
So it's I literally invited to everyone's table basically, yeah,
but in the background watching.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
It is.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
He's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
As a kid, I mean, as old as I am,
I remembers it's been around for hundreds of thousands of years.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I think the next year, the hundred year or something
something like that.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
This is where it's the rockets too, yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Or is it the rocket?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
You should be a rocket. That's what I've seen you
in heels. Listen rock a pair of heels.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I will say that it is extremely difficult to walk
in them, and I prays anybody who can't.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, we did it once.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
We had the guys wear heels in the studio the
whole morning.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I don't know how you guys do it.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It was a little too natural with them. I was
sorry anyway. So you are on your own float performing?
Are you performing? When I dance with somebody?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
I'm performing on a dance to somebody. I'm on the
linked float chocolate? So I better get free chocolate balls
for life, I'm telling you now.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, I better get him who hasn't had chocolate balls.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
He says, Christmas more like chocolate balls.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Tells us it's a good old fashioned Christmas miracles chocolate bar.
Are you nervous?
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yes, I'm pouring myself.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
I would like to know how it works though. Do
you pre record the track and then you sing to
the track or you singing live on the floor because
they stop at that one, you know, the grandstand.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I think he's going to divulge it. I'm singing live. Yeah,
I will be singing live. I'm telling you, are you Yeah, I'll.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Be singing live. Yeah for sure?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Good be it.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, of course I will.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I will do my best for America. Okay, okay, well,
don't get nervous. It's because you know we're gonna be
shooting love right at you.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Thank you so much. I honestly feel like it's such
an honor, you know, Like I said, I got to
sing for the King for the coronation, and I feel
like this is the equivalent, you know, singing for all
of the Americans who are there Thanksgiving celebrating with their families,
and I get to be a little part of that
is a honor.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
It is a big It is mean. I've never been
invited to be it's a silly little parade. Well that
would be kind of It's nice to know someone we
got some skin in the game.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Yeah, yeah, I try.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I'll try and get you on my floor if you want, Oh.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Oh my god, do it dressed up like a chocolate ball,
showed to be the left one of the right one. Okay,
if you're just turning his on Callum Scott is here.
We're celebrating of course this album Evanoir and of course
he's going to be on a float in the parade.
Let's talk about Thanksgiving. Now, you grew up hearing about
this thing we do over here. But when didn't you
first learn about American Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I remember when I was right in my I think
it was my second album. Is the only time I've
ever been in America for Thanksgiving? And it was when
everybody that I was within the airbnb had gone home
and some one of my friends from Tampa felt sorry
for me, so she sent me a pumpkin pie and
alone and that I was. I said, Thanksgiving, isn't that
(06:40):
great for me in my personal opinion?
Speaker 2 (06:44):
But the pumpkin pie was salty from your tears.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But yeah, it's it's a huge tradition. I mean, we
do this every Sunday in the UK, you don't. We
just call it Sunday Roast. No, it's not the same thing. No,
we have history backing this up. Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You know, all the Europeans came over and spread disease
and stole land.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Sorry for that.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Then we got it back with that tea party.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Don't get mad. I'm not gonna get him up too soon.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
That's too soon, too soon. Thanksgivings, I mean, you guys
really go in on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
So you wouldn't be celebrating Thanksgiving over there. But we
did celebrate Halloween in London one that was a failure.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
I was so boring you do anything, and I was like,
what's going on?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
No, I know, I know, but we do have them.
We have this thing called bomfi and I which is
I guess it is your Fourth of July in the
sense that I.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Guess you wouldn't be celebrating Fourth of July or there.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
I know, we need to just bring out all your
traditions to us.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
You have now don't celebrate enough, right, But you're celebrating
the fact that we totally crap canned.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You in war. This is true.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Took away your colonies.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Are we still bitter about this little? A little? Now?
What what hollidays do you have there that we really
should be thinking about stealing? The boxing day? You don't
do boxing, know, don't rather wrestle? You don't do boxing day? No,
what's it's not a fight thing? What is it? No?
Speaker 4 (08:17):
No, no, No, it's like a return day you right,
isn't it like something about your returning every turn like
everything the sails.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
And also you have all the leftovers. Yeah, you do,
Like you bang everything that you had in the roast
in a sandwich and you have that and you watch
movies all day, and I guess you guys do that, right,
I'm boxing.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
We call it just going back and standing on a
line and return some crap.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Ok, give me another. There's gotta be some guy, Fox
Night guy.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
What does he do?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
What isn't isn't isn't? I think that celebrates k E s.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, we're celebrating the guy who tried to blow up
the houses of Parliament something like that. Manager to I
don't know if celebrating him so much as celebrating that
didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm very familiar.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Tuesday Pancake Day.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Pancake Day is fun, talk about it. I can get pancakes,
make people.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
I mean, I don't know what shrove is, but I
know what pancake Day is. Pancake Day. You just you
just make pancakes around Easter time, right, Yeah, and you've
got and my pancake is uh is lemon juice and
then some sugar. But you roll up and you eat
with a knife and fall. If you eat your pancake
(09:32):
with with your hands, you're barbarian?
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Can Okay? Can you tell I'm married to a bridge
and I know all that? You know all of them?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Do you know more?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
What else is that? What is he missing from homeland?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
You guys do even Newsday right, especially in New York
with the whole the ball.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Get that ball no chocolate on it though? Okay, callum,
let's talk about Evant this album now, I've I've been
digging into this album. This is this is you know,
you're tapping into some emotional stuff with this album and
the term Evan why we were totally freaked out looking
at life moving backwards? How do you Gardhi? What was
(10:10):
your take on it?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
It was pretty much what you just said, looking at memories,
but from a different angle. So looking back and thinking
about how you're going to appreciate these things because now
you know that they're gonna happen so you can appreciate
them more.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Is that it?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah, it's me. I'm basically came from a little bit
of a doom scroll. I mean, I guess I was
probably sat on the toilet at the time, and I'm
just looking through.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I'm so sorry, and then this says dumb there, No,
don't make me push the dump.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Don't press the dumb button. I'm scrolling through and I
see this word avanoar and it says the desire to
see your memories in advance. And I was like, WHOA.
So I like looked into it more. And there's this
book by a guy called John Koenig, and he's creating
new terms, and his take on it is we moved
through life like a rower moves, so we move forward,
but we can only see where we've been right, we
(10:55):
can't see where we're going. And his theory is, wouldn't
it be crazy to be able to turn around your
boty and see your memories coming towards you, Like you'd
know what your wedding day would look like, you'd know
the day your kids were born.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
But you want to see.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
So I thought it was really thought provoking. I was like,
oh my god, imagine And then I thought, actually, the
ten years I've had in this business, I never saw
any of it coming. And that's what makes it magical
for me. So I think the magic of life is
not knowing much around the corner. It makes it. It
makes you ambitious, it makes you dream big, it makes
you nervous, and I think it's all the human traits
(11:28):
of just us and what we anticipate. So I think
for me, it was more like it's more of a
reminder to live in the present and to take stock
of what you have and to be grateful for it
and to enjoy it because we can't control the future,
and you know, we can't control our past.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So I think it's a wonderful concept.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
It's a very thought provoking one.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
It sounds like an episode of what's that show that
we watch all the time?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Not Mirror Mirror. Yeah, it's very.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Black, really totally, Yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It is I meaning the end of a movie. You
never want to do that, You just want to watch
the movie rise exactly.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I do that really what I'll read it like the
last ten pages of a book.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Oh, I hate that people do that. People read the
end of the book first, Why would you do that.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
To piss you off? Let me add let me add
another level to it. Let's say I am Let's say
I'm gonna go on a date with someone. Okay, I
would love to move my head forward and look backward
to the what that date looked like, even though it
hasn't happened yet. Can you understand what I'm saying you could?
(12:37):
Can you help create what these great moments in your
future life will be by pretending to be ahead of
it and looking back and creating what the result will be?
No one understands what the hell.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Think I think?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
I'm going to psychosis? We should eat some really heavy
pot gummies and come back to Okay, So all in
this album, I know you have some great ballads on here. Yeah,
you're making a sad I'm making you sad and making
you smack? Is there such thing as a happy ballad?
You could do that?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I get touching ballad?
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Okay, so there is a song on that. With every
album I try and put like my on it. Well,
I do put my honesty in there. And my first
album it was definitely about the struggles I had with
my sexual identity and everything. The second album was more
about my mental health and this album, I feel like
I have kind of made peace with a lot of things.
So when I was making this album, I was like, right,
what do I want to what honesty can I share
(13:32):
that's deeper than the rest of the songs. And the
only other thing I want to do that I haven't
done is to be a dad. So I wrote a
song called Mad, which is my love letter to my
future baby.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Oh see see what you're doing. So there you can
look at your baby being born. There you go, it's
been born yet that you know of.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
I mean, I might have hundreds, but I really want
to be a dad. And I wrote this little song
and and and it's and it's it's a happy ballad.
It's a happy ballad.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You know. It's interesting because I had dinner. I had
a dinner with Callum years ago when first met, and
we talked a lot about your mom. Remember that.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Yeah, she's so amazing. She was on tour with me. Yeah,
I just finished my European tour and she was there
as a head of wardrobe.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I kind of job. Did she choose this fabular today?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
She did? She steemed it. But yeah, she's she's She
was incredible. And it was so nice for the boys
as well, because as a band, you know, everybody's you know,
leaving behind their kids and their parents and their and
their partners. So to have like a mum roll on
the tour was just really beautiful and everybody felt really
and she's she's so fun and she's she's always got
a drink in her hand.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
She like. Okay, we go back to the song mad
in thoughts of being a dad one day. Where does
mad come from?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Well, I guess on a deep level, my my dad
wasn't around so much when I was late, so I
kind of it's you know, I've grown up with all
sorts of you know, not feeling good enough and all
this kind of stuff. I don't want to deep it
too much in the morning, but yeah, I've had that
and I kind of really want to right that wrong.
And I want to be able to have my own
baby and show them what it is to be loved
and to kind of be the dad that I never had.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, yeah, I want you to be my dad. Okay.
So the album, of course, Evan one, You've got to
pick us up. It has a lot of a lot
of interesting storylines in this thing. Does be so proud
of this.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
I'm so proud of it. I'm so happy with how
the album turned out because we, like I said, the
songs came easier and I did worry about that first,
I'm like, good things take time, and they good things
are usually difficult to come by. But I think it's
just because I've I've entered a stage of my life
where I'm like ten years in now and never ever
from when I stood on that stage and audition for
Britain's Got Talent. Never dreamt that ten years later I'd
(15:42):
be three albums in Third World Tour, having jeeted with
Whitney Houston, sang to the King, supported it, sharing, like
all of these things are just so crazy to me.
And I think whilst I was writing the album, I
kind of finally accepted that I am good enough and
that I do deserve to be here.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I am, but we've been telling you this a long
but tell yourself you yeah, youn't matter?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, And I finally kind of made peace with that,
And now I think the music sounds as confident as
as I feel.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yeah, Gandhi, what.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
You've done a lot of really cool stuff because you
just listed all of it like bucket list things that
you probably didn't even think. We're on a bucket list.
But do you have another thing that you think this?
If this thing happens, I will feel so good.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Oh, I mean, apart from coming here again. Obviously this
is the top of my list, I am. I mean,
obviously I would love to do it with Adell's always
be my thing, Okay, I just don't know if the
world could take it, just throwing it out there, just
going out there manifest Yeah, I mean it would be.
It would be amazing. And having sword with a cheering
(16:42):
and and and Todd in stadiums. I think to have
my own stadium show would be just the dream. Wow,
I mean that would be It would be so cool.
I used to think, like I used to stand in arenas,
you know, when we're supporting other artists, and I used
to think, there's no way I'd ever have my own
show yet. And then I just stood in Lithuania and
performed to nine thousand people. I was just sobbing, just
(17:05):
at the idea of like I remember being I saw that,
I saw the video you posted, yeah, and it's like now,
you know, then I think to myself, well, the sky
is the limit. I think when you believe in yourself,
you really kind of achieved them as things.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Okay, Callum Scott Evan, well ready, yeah, you're walking off
the stage just performing at your own Stadium headlining tour.
You just left a crowd of thirty forty thousand people
who are all singing along to your songs, knew every lyric.
You're walking off that stage. You don't make me cry,
(17:36):
had a great food, what a feeling? Huh?
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I mean it would be the owner of my life.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
See you just went there.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah, it's I mean like I'm speechless even just at
the thought of its friends stadium.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Can we go back to edge turn one second? Did
he ever give you a penis statue? Apparently we got one.
We got one, and his gift to people, I mean I.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Didn't Oh wow, I would have liked that.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Have you seen the ones he's given people in the
one that gives all John Yeah, there was a knock
at the door one day and this guy walked in
with this massive box. It is from London. What is
this not even a note? You just open it up.
It's a big old black penis. It's it's a statue. It'
hidden We're gonna put in the garden, but it's hidden
in a in a put it in because people, if
(18:20):
you know what I'm saying, No, you know, people show
it to work on the house. I think there's a
big penis to sit in there. I'm like, we got it.
We can't sleave that up for the kids. Yeah, okay,
So tomorrow big day for Callum Scott and all of us,
the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade. You're gonna be just having a
great time there. And talk about your affair with New
York City. What is it about the city that you
just you like or hate because it's a love hate thing.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
This.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I mean, it's this. It's the city of dreams, I think,
isn't it. It's you just walk in you just think
there's so much opportunity. There's just there's a there's a
feeling of dreams in the air that are being made
or created or just even be manifested. I remember coming
here for the first time. I've just written it in
your book. Actually, I remember coming here for the first time,
and I was so nervous, so nervous, and yeah, I
(19:01):
came in here and you made me feel so welcome
and so supported. And I've felt that support from you
and the team and from the station ever since. And
it just means it makes me think that every single
time I come in, I just I have that magic
in my bones and it's because of you guys. You
know it really is.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
You're the one that brings the magic. Oh no, we
just sit here and soak it up. May I read
what you said? Please? He says in the book, Wow
Elvis in team. I remember walking in here in twenty seventeen.
I was excited, nervous. I knew how many people were
tuned in, and you guys made me feel so comfortable
and at home. Ever since then, I felt that unwavering support.
And I am so grateful for you guys. I never
(19:39):
take these opportunities for granted. Lots of love always and
that this is your signature, Callum Scott. I guess it's
what that says. It is like mine. I love that.
Thank you. Will cherish this forever. Just play the song,
shall we?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yes? Please?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
You'll hear this on the float tomorrow if you're at
the Thanksgiving parade, or just watch it on NBC. I'm
gonna dance with somebody. Go ahead, set the song up
before we play it. Oh my god, what the radio
guy say?
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think I've introduced it yet.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I don't do it.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I haven't done it. New York and America is my
pleasure to announce this song with the incredible voice of
Whitney Houston and myself Callum Scott, with I want to
Dance with Somebody.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
There you go.
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