December 29, 2025 • 17 mins
In 2025 we had so many amazing people stop by Elvis Duran and the Morning Show. Here's one of our favorites!
Still Bobbi: A Master Class in Resilience and Reinvention is out now!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The on air moments that had the whole studio talking.
This is the year's best from Elvis Durant in the
Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Live from the Mercedes Benz.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Interview Lounge, Bobby Brown is here. I know we shouldn't
judge by looks, but you look fabulous. You look like
you are happy.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You look like I'm not tired.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You do this, I'm now reversed. I'm reversing ends on you.
Bobby Brown has a way of walking into a room
and she can look at you and tell you what
you're missing in your life. It used to be like
you need more water, you drink too much, But now
you look at people from a spiritual point of view
as well.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Well.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
I just honestly, I just love people, and I care
about people, and so I just think it's you know,
there's always things we could do to make ourselves feel better,
not just look better, but be better and feel better.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh, I can take it. Go ahead. You're looking at
me right now.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
What am I?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
What?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Am I official? What am I deficient?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I think you look really good. You could use a
little moisturizer, little hippy stick. I did a little hippie stick.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
But I was out late last night. I'm in awful
physical shape today.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, we don't look it.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It was a Sunday funny. Well, thank you, we got
lots to talk about. Let's talk about your book still, Bobby.
By the way, it's unlike all of our other New
York Times bestsellers. This is about you being your authentic self,
weathering the storm in business, reinventing yourself in life, having
a best friend who's in the cockpit with you. Steve,
(01:31):
you're your husband. Where do you want to start?
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Well, the reason I wrote this book is not you know,
I've written so many beauty books and I'm known for
you know, natural makeup and confidence and being comfortable in
your skin.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
But I realized I had more to teach.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You know.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
I really, as you guys know, I can't help myself.
I really do believe that I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well, I don't.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I don't want to rest, but no, I just really
believe that it's possible to reinvent yourself at any time.
And it's also being resilient of all this stuff that
gets thrown at us in life, you know, like it's
up to you. My dad taught me something really important.
If you remember nothing else, you can't always control the situation,
but you can control your attitude without doubt.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And it's like so true.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You know, we were really becoming good friends back when
you were leaving Bobby Brown, Yes, and you you actually
admitted out loud sometimes I'm a little lost, but I
think I have an idea, right, and then Jones Road
comes into play.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
At sixty two years old.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Sixty two years old, So I mean I don't see age.
I mean, luckily, I don't see as well as I
used to do.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So when I look in the mirror, I'm like, you know,
throw some miracle bomb. I'm okay.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
But I also, you know, you guys know, I also
take care of myself. And if you feel good, you
have energy, and so you know well.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And still, Bobby, you actually do get very candid about
Este Lauder and about party ways.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Well, you know, you'll read the book. And I either
quit or got fired.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You know which way you look at it.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
At it, but it was one of those business things
where it was a little of both.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Well, it was a little of both, but I you know,
to me, I got fired because they canceled my my
work contract and wanted me to be the face of
the brand without being involved, and that's just not something
that would work.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
For me, no creative input at all.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Right, and honestly, for other people that have either been
dumped or fired, it's the best thing once you get over,
because then you have like an empty notebook to write
your new story.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I do have a question about them keeping your name though,
if you could, how does that work? How can you
not say, well, that's my name. I'm taking it because
you saw it.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So when we sold the company, I knew that.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
You know it's I mean, Donna, Karen, Calvin Klein, they did,
you know the same thing.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
They they don't own their names. Yeah, so you know
they don't. They own Bobby Brown for cosmetics.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
It's weird right now.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It is weird.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
It's like when they crap can met from this place,
they're still going to call it the oldestoration no wayver.
So Okay, I love the advice you just gave in
this is what you're great at doing as a friend.
And I think what this book can serve as for
many people who read it is it's Bobby being your
friend when you're kicked out the door, when you're kicked
out of the nest, when you're crap can from a
(04:21):
company whatever. It is. Time to rejoice.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
It's a new opening, right, But it's like you're not rejoicing,
You're embarrassed, you're upset.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Are you really bad?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I was?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yes, didn't we.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Didn't look at you like you were some kind of loser.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
No, well, but I felt like it.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
You know, you can't help how you feel, so you know,
and I would have emotions that would go all over
the place, and you know, anger, sadness, and then positive
things started popping in and I you know, I worked
with a friend of mine who's a life coach, and honestly,
life coaches are the greatest thing because they just talked
about what you're going through now and how to get
over things and how to move forward and it will.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
It works. We hear about this concept of life coach. Yeah,
he writes down that name and numb four me his
name for Joe and you would love him. But he's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
But it does. It helps you go forward.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
What's up, Gandhi.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
I want to know from this life coach what some
of the biggest reframes or some of the pieces of
advice that he gave you about reframing when you feel
like you've completely lost control.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Well, first of all, a lot of the things that
he had me do were very tactile, like, for example,
you know, he's like, how you doing, and I'd be
talking about it and I say, you know, my house
is driving me crazy. Because it was the first time
I was really home in twenty something years. My couch
was like beat up, the stuffing.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Was coming out. I had piles in a room.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
He said, all right, let's walk around the house and
take a picture of everything that bothers you.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I did.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
He said, send me the pictures. The next week he
came with printouts and a sharpie. He said, circle, what's
bothering you?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I did.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
The week after he came back with solutions like take
these pillows to root forty six here and you know,
do this, And all of a sudden I felt better.
I didn't feel I felt more in control, and I
felt a little peaceful. And then he said, let's look
at this couch that really the couch was a mess.
And he said, what happened on you?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Why is this couch pissing you off?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Because it was.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
It was like it was a down couch. I'll never
buy a down couch because you always have to fluff it.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
My kids destroyed it. But he said, tell me about
what you did with that couch. And I'm like, we
watched movies.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Their friends came over and he says, don't shouldn't you
love that couch because all the good memories?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
And I said, look, I got rid of the couch,
but I loved it.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
What about for people? What if people are driving me
you crazy? Like, what did he say about that?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Well, you know, get new people, right, I mean, you know,
it depends who it is. If it's you know, one
of my family members, how do you deal with it? Yeah,
But you know, then you realize there are certain people
that you don't need in your life.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
By the way, Bobby Brown is here. Her book is
still Bobby, and I want you to read it. It's
very motivating and to hear you also just kind of
lay it out there. You talk about your family, You're
talking about some very personal things. One of the things
you talked about talk about is Steven your how he
is truly your best friend and having that other person
in the cockpit when you're flying your plane is so crucial,
(07:09):
and you really really point that out and talk about
how much he means to you in this book.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
I mean, I'm lucky. It's been thirty seven years. That's
a long time, thirty seven years. So we started all
the businesses together, and you know, he's with me every
step of the way, and I'm with him, So you
know that's good stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Jones Road by the way, five years Yeah, five years.
Remember that was five years ago and you walked in
and said, I got some it's called Jones Road. I went, oh, great,
what the hell is Jones Road? What does that even mean?
And where's Jones Road?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I mean, we launched Jones Road the day my twenty
five year non compete was up, and here's you know.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
It's funny though, when you first launched it, we had
a conversation and you go, yeah, I don't think I'm
ever going to do brick and mortar again.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, well you did say that.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
No, but department store, Oh, we're in one department store.
We're in one department store in the UK and that's Liberty.
The rest we have freestanding stores. We have eleven right now. Wow,
And we just signed Nashville.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Hopefully it'll be.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Open the end of the air that weekend. Cashier at
the Nashville story in Nashville by the gulch.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Where in Nashville, I don't even know what twelve South
area And we are looking for people that want to
be makeup artists, people that are a makeup artists a manager.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
So send your resumes to.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Elvis on the weekend, cashier. I'm in charge. Now, Hey, okay,
let's get back to the book still, Bobby, let's talk
about what you think of your book. I heard that
you actually shed a tear when you're reading your book.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I did when you know, I had to do the voiceover,
which I will never listen to because like most people,
I cannot stand listening to my voice.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
And I cried one time, and it was when I
talked about my mother in law. What happened, you know what?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Just that she's not here anymore. And I realized how
much I missed her. And you know, someone asked me,
I think it was Nate, why and I said, because
she was, you know, one of these few people in
my life that just never judged me and just loved
me for me. And I would go over there and
she'd say, how are you doing? And I'd complain about
something and she'd say, come over here, sit down let's
have a piece of chocolate. Life is about is sweet?
(09:14):
Have a piece of chocolate? So EV used to always
give me chocolate.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
You learn a lot about yourself when you write a book.
And I went through a lot of self help with myself. Yeah,
reading about me, it's very cathartic. Examining you yourself is
so important and it's a.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Gift, by the way, for your future children, her grandchildren.
Because everyone's got a story every I mean, how did
you get this job?
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Like everyone's geting a story?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
How did you get this job?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But how did you get this job?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Like?
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Seriously, I called up the radio station and I pretended
I was from a college radio station, and no, I
was from a college radio station, and I wanted I
made a story how they were stealing CBS from the
CD library at college. It was totally fake, but I
got somebody on the phone in this building and they
gave me advice. And giving me advice, They're like, huh,
(10:03):
you want to come in for an interview tomorrow. That's
how that happened.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And that's kutzba.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
It's called lying. It's what it's called. It's called using,
it's called hustling. The permissible lie, we call it right.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I mean, you're you know you weren't going to get
a phone call. No one was calling you to come in.
I had to make it right, right.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
I made the call and made up a crazy story, right,
and everyone's got that story. And by the way, when
I left my company, my phone didn't ring off the hook.
I thought everyone's going to call me and say, oh,
come do this for me, come to me.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Really, did you find out who your friends were?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I definitely found who my friends were.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
But I thought there was going to be companies that
were going to come to me and say could you
fix ours? You know, and and it didn't happen, so
literally I had to go out and start things myself.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
See, Bobby, I liked you much more when you're unemployed.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I thought.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
I thought because you took time to like you took
time with conversations. You took you didn't have a schedule
in your head where you had to like run here,
run there, and then you started getting busier and busier
and busier. Well, you're unemployed because you were building this
new Bobby Brown.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Well an old Bobby Brown. No, I'm building Jones Road,
which was a very different thing.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Isn't the person. Yes, I mean that's I know it's
okay to use your name when talking about you, right,
there's no lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
No, And I.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Know, I know it gets confusing. So you know, all
I know is I'm so like passionate about Jones Road.
It's been the most fun I've ever had.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Why Why is most fun?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
It's a lifetime of experience, both entrepreneurial and beauty and
beauty distilled into something new.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So it's you know, it's it's.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Beautiful formulas, really fun packaging.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And you know, I'm I'm just through your show. It's
my show.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
And you know, the only guys I have to you know,
argue with and fight or my husband and my and
my son. But you know, so I'm I'm I have
a lot of experience working with men. You can take them, Yeah,
I could take them.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
The trick has just let them think they win. That
is the trick.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
And so I'm leaving some of the holiday gifts here
because if I don't mention you know our holiday and
that everything is on sale now through December first, So
there's some nice our first ever sight wide sale.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
And I never promote the stuff, but people love bargains.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Oh absolutely, and you should promote it holiday, you should
promote it. But being authentic, yeah, talk about that is
just an important thing for anyone anywhere in this world.
Being yourself right and not being like controlled by strings
that a puppet.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Well, I think all of us.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
You know, at some point in our life we try
to be something we think we should be. You know,
I try to be a corporate person, you know, with
the briefcase. I tried to do all these different things
and I realized I can't. It was just uncomfortable for me.
So you know, I started doing things like wearing jeans
to events and not like uncomfortable clothes.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
This is who I am. And that's one of the
first things.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I think of when I think of you too, is oh,
Bobby will have cute sneakers on. I always think about you.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
No, today I have these Gucci clogss.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Okay, hello, You've.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Always been the less is more person? Or did that
take time?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Well, I'm trying to be less is more.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I have a big giant LL bean bag that says
give and so I'm always trying to clean out my
closet and I just throw all the stuff I don't
want in this give bag, and then I give it
away and then I think, oh, I'm so nice. And
then the you know, the doorbell rings and quins comes
and there's two sweaters that I, you know, looked so
good online. I'm like, oh, now I got more stuff
to put in my closet.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
But what about the less is more concept with makeup
and like with you know, beauty and.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
All that puff, Well, less is more, but the right
amount is the right amount less? Like to me, makeup
isn't about not putting hardly there. It's about doing what
you need to do. What can I do so I
look less tired, I look prettier, I look not washed out.
And you know, there's times where you don't have good
beauty days and then you just kind of Then I
at least I know what to do. I could throw
on some miracle bomb and some you know under eye pencil.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Is that your lesson party trick?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, for sure, going to a party look good? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
And by the way, when it comes to parties, I
want to be invited, but I don't really want to
go the.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Same way I know, having want Yeah, yeah, happiness, I've
got homo.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I'm a homeo Homo okay. Final questions for Bobby Gandhi.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Co Okay, Bobby, have you ever jumped out of an airplane?
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Absolutely not and have no desire to, and my kids
have and that pisses me off.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Okay, because I think that there's something like that totally
goes with this conversation on what we're talking about. And
I know you're not a control freak, but there's something
really beautiful and freeing in the moment that you jump
out of a plane knowing right now there's nothing I
can do.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I just have to go with this.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
The wind is going to take me where it takes me,
and it might go terribly, probably won't, but I think
it's such a freeing feeling and I just wish everyone
would do it.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
But what I did do is hop on stage with
flow Rida when he called my name, and that was
like jumping out of a plane, because it's like I
have one second to decide if I'm going to do this,
and I did it, So there you go. I did it,
and to trust the universe. And then when Salt and
Peppa called me up, I jumped up. I jumped on
that stage too.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I was sure. Excellent question Danielle.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So you've done in my book almost everything. Is there
still something that you want to tackle that you haven't
done yet?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yes, but I don't know what it is. And that's
what's so exciting about.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You need to discover that. But your mind is Danielle.
Do you think her mind is open enough to tackle anything?
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yes, anything you put your mind to, it'll be good.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I love when things aren't don't work out because I
know there's a solution. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
My question. Final question is and back to the book,
the book still.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Is, when are we going out for dinner?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I'm ready. You're buying. By the way, this book is selling.
In the book still, Bobby, people come up to you
and say, you know what. I read your book. I
have to say you really really, you really changed something
in me. How does that make you feel? Talk about
this everything.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
There was a woman in the UK that came up
to me. She was this beautiful woman. She said, I
just lost whatever political seat she had. I'd been there
for thirteen years. I couldn't get out of bed. I
read your book and now I'm so excited about what
the future holds and I don't even know what it
is like Things like that make me happy.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
That's jumping out of a plane right there. I'm excited
about the future, even though I really have no freakant
clue what it's going to be.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
I don't think that's jumping out. Jumping out of a
plane is scary and stupid. Getting on my motor side.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You're telling my mom when I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Getting on a motorcycle, I bungee jumped, and my mom
I came home and before I had kids, my Mom's like,
you know what you just did. You ruined your inside.
You're never going to be able to have children. Jump
what That's what you would say, same.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Thing, Bobby Brown. Of course, still Bobby is out right now.
I really want you to grab a copy for you
and read it and highlight your favorite parts and then
give that as a gift. A highlighted book is a
great gift because people know what you got turned on
by and the Bobby Round book. I love you, Yes,
dinner absolutely still Bobby by it today. Bobby Brown, we
(17:05):
love you.
The on air moments that had the whole studio talking.
This is the year's best from Elvis Durant in the
Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Live from the Mercedes Benz.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Interview Lounge, Bobby Brown is here. I know we shouldn't
judge by looks, but you look fabulous. You look like
you are happy.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You look like I'm not tired.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
You do this, I'm now reversed. I'm reversing ends on you.
Bobby Brown has a way of walking into a room
and she can look at you and tell you what
you're missing in your life. It used to be like
you need more water, you drink too much, But now
you look at people from a spiritual point of view
as well.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Well.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
I just honestly, I just love people, and I care
about people, and so I just think it's you know,
there's always things we could do to make ourselves feel better,
not just look better, but be better and feel better.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Oh, I can take it. Go ahead. You're looking at
me right now.
Speaker 6 (00:58):
What am I?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
What?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Am I official? What am I deficient?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I think you look really good. You could use a
little moisturizer, little hippy stick. I did a little hippie stick.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
But I was out late last night. I'm in awful
physical shape today.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, we don't look it.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It was a Sunday funny. Well, thank you, we got
lots to talk about. Let's talk about your book still, Bobby.
By the way, it's unlike all of our other New
York Times bestsellers. This is about you being your authentic self,
weathering the storm in business, reinventing yourself in life, having
a best friend who's in the cockpit with you. Steve,
(01:31):
you're your husband. Where do you want to start?
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Well, the reason I wrote this book is not you know,
I've written so many beauty books and I'm known for
you know, natural makeup and confidence and being comfortable in
your skin.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
But I realized I had more to teach.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
You know.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
I really, as you guys know, I can't help myself.
I really do believe that I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well, I don't.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I don't want to rest, but no, I just really
believe that it's possible to reinvent yourself at any time.
And it's also being resilient of all this stuff that
gets thrown at us in life, you know, like it's
up to you. My dad taught me something really important.
If you remember nothing else, you can't always control the situation,
but you can control your attitude without doubt.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
And it's like so true.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
You know, we were really becoming good friends back when
you were leaving Bobby Brown, Yes, and you you actually
admitted out loud sometimes I'm a little lost, but I
think I have an idea, right, and then Jones Road
comes into play.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
At sixty two years old.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Sixty two years old, So I mean I don't see age.
I mean, luckily, I don't see as well as I
used to do.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So when I look in the mirror, I'm like, you know,
throw some miracle bomb. I'm okay.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
But I also, you know, you guys know, I also
take care of myself. And if you feel good, you
have energy, and so you know well.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And still, Bobby, you actually do get very candid about
Este Lauder and about party ways.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Well, you know, you'll read the book. And I either
quit or got fired.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
You know which way you look at it.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
At it, but it was one of those business things
where it was a little of both.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Well, it was a little of both, but I you know,
to me, I got fired because they canceled my my
work contract and wanted me to be the face of
the brand without being involved, and that's just not something
that would work.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
For me, no creative input at all.
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Right, and honestly, for other people that have either been
dumped or fired, it's the best thing once you get over,
because then you have like an empty notebook to write
your new story.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I do have a question about them keeping your name though,
if you could, how does that work? How can you
not say, well, that's my name. I'm taking it because
you saw it.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So when we sold the company, I knew that.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
You know it's I mean, Donna, Karen, Calvin Klein, they did,
you know the same thing.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
They they don't own their names. Yeah, so you know
they don't. They own Bobby Brown for cosmetics.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
It's weird right now.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
It is weird.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
It's like when they crap can met from this place,
they're still going to call it the oldestoration no wayver.
So Okay, I love the advice you just gave in
this is what you're great at doing as a friend.
And I think what this book can serve as for
many people who read it is it's Bobby being your
friend when you're kicked out the door, when you're kicked
out of the nest, when you're crap can from a
(04:21):
company whatever. It is. Time to rejoice.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
It's a new opening, right, But it's like you're not rejoicing,
You're embarrassed, you're upset.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Are you really bad?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
I was?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yes, didn't we.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Didn't look at you like you were some kind of loser.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
No, well, but I felt like it.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
You know, you can't help how you feel, so you know,
and I would have emotions that would go all over
the place, and you know, anger, sadness, and then positive
things started popping in and I you know, I worked
with a friend of mine who's a life coach, and honestly,
life coaches are the greatest thing because they just talked
about what you're going through now and how to get
over things and how to move forward and it will.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
It works. We hear about this concept of life coach. Yeah,
he writes down that name and numb four me his
name for Joe and you would love him. But he's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
But it does. It helps you go forward.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
What's up, Gandhi.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
I want to know from this life coach what some
of the biggest reframes or some of the pieces of
advice that he gave you about reframing when you feel
like you've completely lost control.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Well, first of all, a lot of the things that
he had me do were very tactile, like, for example,
you know, he's like, how you doing, and I'd be
talking about it and I say, you know, my house
is driving me crazy. Because it was the first time
I was really home in twenty something years. My couch
was like beat up, the stuffing.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Was coming out. I had piles in a room.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
He said, all right, let's walk around the house and
take a picture of everything that bothers you.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
I did.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
He said, send me the pictures. The next week he
came with printouts and a sharpie. He said, circle, what's
bothering you?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
I did.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
The week after he came back with solutions like take
these pillows to root forty six here and you know,
do this, And all of a sudden I felt better.
I didn't feel I felt more in control, and I
felt a little peaceful. And then he said, let's look
at this couch that really the couch was a mess.
And he said, what happened on you?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Why is this couch pissing you off?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Because it was.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
It was like it was a down couch. I'll never
buy a down couch because you always have to fluff it.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
My kids destroyed it. But he said, tell me about
what you did with that couch. And I'm like, we
watched movies.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Their friends came over and he says, don't shouldn't you
love that couch because all the good memories?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
And I said, look, I got rid of the couch,
but I loved it.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
What about for people? What if people are driving me
you crazy? Like, what did he say about that?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Well, you know, get new people, right, I mean, you know,
it depends who it is. If it's you know, one
of my family members, how do you deal with it? Yeah,
But you know, then you realize there are certain people
that you don't need in your life.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
By the way, Bobby Brown is here. Her book is
still Bobby, and I want you to read it. It's
very motivating and to hear you also just kind of
lay it out there. You talk about your family, You're
talking about some very personal things. One of the things
you talked about talk about is Steven your how he
is truly your best friend and having that other person
in the cockpit when you're flying your plane is so crucial,
(07:09):
and you really really point that out and talk about
how much he means to you in this book.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
I mean, I'm lucky. It's been thirty seven years. That's
a long time, thirty seven years. So we started all
the businesses together, and you know, he's with me every
step of the way, and I'm with him, So you
know that's good stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Jones Road by the way, five years Yeah, five years.
Remember that was five years ago and you walked in
and said, I got some it's called Jones Road. I went, oh, great,
what the hell is Jones Road? What does that even mean?
And where's Jones Road?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I mean, we launched Jones Road the day my twenty
five year non compete was up, and here's you know.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
It's funny though, when you first launched it, we had
a conversation and you go, yeah, I don't think I'm
ever going to do brick and mortar again.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Yeah, well you did say that.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
No, but department store, Oh, we're in one department store.
We're in one department store in the UK and that's Liberty.
The rest we have freestanding stores. We have eleven right now. Wow,
And we just signed Nashville.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Hopefully it'll be.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Open the end of the air that weekend. Cashier at
the Nashville story in Nashville by the gulch.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Where in Nashville, I don't even know what twelve South
area And we are looking for people that want to
be makeup artists, people that are a makeup artists a manager.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
So send your resumes to.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Elvis on the weekend, cashier. I'm in charge. Now, Hey, okay,
let's get back to the book still, Bobby, let's talk
about what you think of your book. I heard that
you actually shed a tear when you're reading your book.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I did when you know, I had to do the voiceover,
which I will never listen to because like most people,
I cannot stand listening to my voice.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
And I cried one time, and it was when I
talked about my mother in law. What happened, you know what?
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Just that she's not here anymore. And I realized how
much I missed her. And you know, someone asked me,
I think it was Nate, why and I said, because
she was, you know, one of these few people in
my life that just never judged me and just loved
me for me. And I would go over there and
she'd say, how are you doing? And I'd complain about
something and she'd say, come over here, sit down let's
have a piece of chocolate. Life is about is sweet?
(09:14):
Have a piece of chocolate? So EV used to always
give me chocolate.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
You learn a lot about yourself when you write a book.
And I went through a lot of self help with myself. Yeah,
reading about me, it's very cathartic. Examining you yourself is
so important and it's a.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
Gift, by the way, for your future children, her grandchildren.
Because everyone's got a story every I mean, how did
you get this job?
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Right?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Like everyone's geting a story?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
How did you get this job?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
But how did you get this job?
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Like?
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Seriously, I called up the radio station and I pretended
I was from a college radio station, and no, I
was from a college radio station, and I wanted I
made a story how they were stealing CBS from the
CD library at college. It was totally fake, but I
got somebody on the phone in this building and they
gave me advice. And giving me advice, They're like, huh,
(10:03):
you want to come in for an interview tomorrow. That's
how that happened.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
And that's kutzba.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
It's called lying. It's what it's called. It's called using,
it's called hustling. The permissible lie, we call it right.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I mean, you're you know you weren't going to get
a phone call. No one was calling you to come in.
I had to make it right, right.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
I made the call and made up a crazy story, right,
and everyone's got that story. And by the way, when
I left my company, my phone didn't ring off the hook.
I thought everyone's going to call me and say, oh,
come do this for me, come to me.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Really, did you find out who your friends were?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I definitely found who my friends were.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
But I thought there was going to be companies that
were going to come to me and say could you
fix ours? You know, and and it didn't happen, so
literally I had to go out and start things myself.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
See, Bobby, I liked you much more when you're unemployed.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
I thought.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
I thought because you took time to like you took
time with conversations. You took you didn't have a schedule
in your head where you had to like run here,
run there, and then you started getting busier and busier
and busier. Well, you're unemployed because you were building this
new Bobby Brown.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Well an old Bobby Brown. No, I'm building Jones Road,
which was a very different thing.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Isn't the person. Yes, I mean that's I know it's
okay to use your name when talking about you, right,
there's no lawsuits.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
No, And I.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Know, I know it gets confusing. So you know, all
I know is I'm so like passionate about Jones Road.
It's been the most fun I've ever had.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Why Why is most fun?
Speaker 5 (11:23):
It's a lifetime of experience, both entrepreneurial and beauty and
beauty distilled into something new.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So it's you know, it's it's.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Beautiful formulas, really fun packaging.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And you know, I'm I'm just through your show. It's
my show.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
And you know, the only guys I have to you know,
argue with and fight or my husband and my and
my son. But you know, so I'm I'm I have
a lot of experience working with men. You can take them, Yeah,
I could take them.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
The trick has just let them think they win. That
is the trick.
Speaker 5 (11:59):
And so I'm leaving some of the holiday gifts here
because if I don't mention you know our holiday and
that everything is on sale now through December first, So
there's some nice our first ever sight wide sale.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
And I never promote the stuff, but people love bargains.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Oh absolutely, and you should promote it holiday, you should
promote it. But being authentic, yeah, talk about that is
just an important thing for anyone anywhere in this world.
Being yourself right and not being like controlled by strings
that a puppet.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Well, I think all of us.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
You know, at some point in our life we try
to be something we think we should be. You know,
I try to be a corporate person, you know, with
the briefcase. I tried to do all these different things
and I realized I can't. It was just uncomfortable for me.
So you know, I started doing things like wearing jeans
to events and not like uncomfortable clothes.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
This is who I am. And that's one of the
first things.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I think of when I think of you too, is oh,
Bobby will have cute sneakers on. I always think about you.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
No, today I have these Gucci clogss.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Okay, hello, You've.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Always been the less is more person? Or did that
take time?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Well, I'm trying to be less is more.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
I have a big giant LL bean bag that says
give and so I'm always trying to clean out my
closet and I just throw all the stuff I don't
want in this give bag, and then I give it
away and then I think, oh, I'm so nice. And
then the you know, the doorbell rings and quins comes
and there's two sweaters that I, you know, looked so
good online. I'm like, oh, now I got more stuff
to put in my closet.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
But what about the less is more concept with makeup
and like with you know, beauty and.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
All that puff, Well, less is more, but the right
amount is the right amount less? Like to me, makeup
isn't about not putting hardly there. It's about doing what
you need to do. What can I do so I
look less tired, I look prettier, I look not washed out.
And you know, there's times where you don't have good
beauty days and then you just kind of Then I
at least I know what to do. I could throw
on some miracle bomb and some you know under eye pencil.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Is that your lesson party trick?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Yeah, for sure, going to a party look good? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
And by the way, when it comes to parties, I
want to be invited, but I don't really want to
go the.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Same way I know, having want Yeah, yeah, happiness, I've
got homo.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
I'm a homeo Homo okay. Final questions for Bobby Gandhi.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Co Okay, Bobby, have you ever jumped out of an airplane?
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Absolutely not and have no desire to, and my kids
have and that pisses me off.
Speaker 7 (14:31):
Okay, because I think that there's something like that totally
goes with this conversation on what we're talking about. And
I know you're not a control freak, but there's something
really beautiful and freeing in the moment that you jump
out of a plane knowing right now there's nothing I
can do.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I just have to go with this.
Speaker 7 (14:47):
The wind is going to take me where it takes me,
and it might go terribly, probably won't, but I think
it's such a freeing feeling and I just wish everyone
would do it.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
But what I did do is hop on stage with
flow Rida when he called my name, and that was
like jumping out of a plane, because it's like I
have one second to decide if I'm going to do this,
and I did it, So there you go. I did it,
and to trust the universe. And then when Salt and
Peppa called me up, I jumped up. I jumped on
that stage too.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I was sure. Excellent question Danielle.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
So you've done in my book almost everything. Is there
still something that you want to tackle that you haven't
done yet?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yes, but I don't know what it is. And that's
what's so exciting about.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You need to discover that. But your mind is Danielle.
Do you think her mind is open enough to tackle anything?
Speaker 6 (15:33):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yes, anything you put your mind to, it'll be good.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I love when things aren't don't work out because I
know there's a solution. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
My question. Final question is and back to the book,
the book still.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Is, when are we going out for dinner?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
I'm ready. You're buying. By the way, this book is selling.
In the book still, Bobby, people come up to you
and say, you know what. I read your book. I
have to say you really really, you really changed something
in me. How does that make you feel? Talk about
this everything.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
There was a woman in the UK that came up
to me. She was this beautiful woman. She said, I
just lost whatever political seat she had. I'd been there
for thirteen years. I couldn't get out of bed. I
read your book and now I'm so excited about what
the future holds and I don't even know what it
is like Things like that make me happy.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
That's jumping out of a plane right there. I'm excited
about the future, even though I really have no freakant
clue what it's going to be.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
I don't think that's jumping out. Jumping out of a
plane is scary and stupid. Getting on my motor side.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
You're telling my mom when I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Getting on a motorcycle, I bungee jumped, and my mom
I came home and before I had kids, my Mom's like,
you know what you just did. You ruined your inside.
You're never going to be able to have children. Jump
what That's what you would say, same.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Thing, Bobby Brown. Of course, still Bobby is out right now.
I really want you to grab a copy for you
and read it and highlight your favorite parts and then
give that as a gift. A highlighted book is a
great gift because people know what you got turned on
by and the Bobby Round book. I love you, Yes,
dinner absolutely still Bobby by it today. Bobby Brown, we
(17:05):
love you.
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