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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Elvis Duran in the Morning Show.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
So last night eight o'clock from her upcoming album Daughter
from Hell, the first single Gracie Abrams and hit the Wall.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
And we got the Bell.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's so funny how when you hear a song for
the first time, we don't really understand a song till
like a third herd we call it. But we kind
of got it the first run we were listening to it.
We're talking about relationship ends and you go off the wall,
you hit that wall, you hit that wall. Is this
where the song is coming from?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
The song isn't as much about a relationship as it
is sort of about a certain degree of fatigue and
white knuckling in general, which I think we're all sort
of doing to get through these times. And I think
this song was a relief to write because it it
was for me about naming a lot of feelings that
(01:05):
I had not wanted to look at very closely. And
so in that sense, there's some relationship business going down
in there, for sure, but more big picture, I would say,
just about kind of getting to.
Speaker 5 (01:19):
The end of your rope a bit.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well, so in your album Daughter from Hell, this is
the time capsule of you when the songs were written. Yeah,
but when you go back to the Secret of Us
at that time, and your difference in how you're approaching
life and how life is approaching you has shifted. So
now you have one foot in in the old world
and the other foot in your world, and here you
are in between, trying to be centered between the two.
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Is that where this album is going.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, this album is really like it's kind of just
it feels like this in between place where we don't
actually know what the next ten years might look like,
but we've been lucky enough to live more and have
a bit broader of an imagination. And I think I
in the past, when writing Secret of Us or writing
(02:04):
Good Riddance, there was kind of more like a diaristic approach, which,
like I love in songwriting so much. This album feels
a bit more existential to me because I think that's
where my head is a little. It's like a bit
less reactive in the moment and sort of I feel
lucky to be in a place in my life where
the reflecting is happening in real time rather than being
so impulsive.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I suppose I saw an interview with you where you
said that new York kind of feels like your support place, like.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
It's good for your writing.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
Yeah, totally personal for.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Safe Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
York.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
My family is I have family from New York and
uh and I went to college here and you know,
so many of my closest friends live here. And I
think also the city being what it is, it just
is such a generative place to be. I I love
how quickly things move, and I think in a moment
like this and there's album excitement for me personally, it's
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a great city to be in because I think it
really forced you to keep the ball rolling.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
You do not retreat.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
If you have to keep pushing that boulder up the hill.
You don't have time to be scared. You got to
keep moving. That's why we love to net or if
we feel safe here, because we're so unsafe.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Really, as you are writing, do you ever realize while
you're working through it, like, oh crap, it was me.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
I was the villain here. Yeah, of course.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Well, I think this album, unlike others, I was trying
to be careful to write only from a place really
of having been on both sides of the conversation, like
both the protagonist and the antagonist in each song, and
I think sometimes I have to see my own behavior
reflected back to me and other people in order to
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be able to recognize it, which I think is a
real privilege of being alive and growing up and kind
of the people that you choose to surround yourself with
or the people you brush up against do serve as
these mirrors if you're lucky. And so all of the
conflict in this album I know intimately, not just from
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the perspective I'm writing from necessarily, but also having been
on the other side. So I think I think that's
not to say it's not so fun to write songs
where you're sort of pointing fingers are like a bit bitter.
But I want to be a decent person, and I
think that it can be hard in ways that I
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was not always careful with to have a song written
about you. I think it can be painful the impact
of that on the other side, and I wanted to
understand what I was dishing out.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Have people reached out to you about that, like, Hey,
you wrote this, and this is how I feel about it.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I've spoken to people that I've written about before in
the past, and you know, with like apologies because I
think the way that you know, we're all doing our
best all the time. And I think when I put
out my first album and I was like, yeah, I
was a bit careless, and I think it's just it's
okay to learn from mistakes.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
And behavior that you don't want to repeat.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
And this album, it's I feel it's the most you know,
for lack of a better word, mature.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
But that's just because I'm the oldest I've been thus.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Far, and so I think I'm trying to infuse my
songs with the perspective.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Do you still write wherever you are? Because I know
you said that you like to capture the moment, and
you can just the writing process is like that, because
we'll have people that come in here all the time
and just tell us that this is how they write music.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
I write all the.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Time, and I think I live such a parapatetic life
that being in one place isn't just it's just not
the reality of life anymore, which is bizarre and confusing
sometimes and also incredibly lucky because I get to feel
so many songs, you know, get a bit of like
the DNA of wherever we are.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Gracie Abrams is here, daughter from Hell's the album. It
comes out in July. But the single that we are
playing a second called hit the Wall. You'll hear that
in a moment as you listen to these tracks on
Daughter from Hell. All this coming out in July. Now
you're onto new conflicts or you're onto new happy, joy
joy things. So are you already writing new songs in
your head? Are you preparing for where the next album
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is going to take you?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah? I think I want to, like really cherish this
chapter of getting this album out into the world. And
I loved making it so much. The process meant so
much to me and to my collaborators. Like this album,
the starts for this album, there are a few songs
on it that we made and recorded the day that
we wrote and recorded That's so true. And another song
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called I Told You Things, which were both on the
deluxe editions of Secret of Us The Last Round.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
And so there's all these connections. I think, like of
all of.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
The songs that I've ever made as sort of this
spider web, because they really all do come from one another.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Take me back to something you said something we'll never understand.
You talked about the moment you turned in the album Yeah,
what private thought did you have when you like physically
handed it to them or you emailed it to whatever.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Yeah, I wish it. I wish it were physical liberating.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
If you could have gone to the bathroom and looked
yourself in the mirror, what would you have said? Is
there a thought or a feeling you get when you
turn that album over?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
We had a gronies.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
It was like it was just a It was a
real joy.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
And there's I think over the past two years when
this album started coming together, we looked at turning this
album in as kind of a culmination of lots to
celebrate with within for each other.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
So it's it's it's like, it's bizarre.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
I hear artists compare that feeling to like childbirth, and
I can't speak to that.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
And I also, I don't find it painful like I
find it. I find it, but maybe that's maybe they're.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Not talking about the painful part.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
I did have a negronies. Yeah, Daughter from Hell, name
of the album. What did you do to your parents?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
A whole lot?
Speaker 5 (07:52):
It took years off their lives.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Probably are you still doing things to your parents?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
We've earned the relationships that we have now. Very luckily,
so I love them.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Well, I'm sure they they were daughters and sis from Hell.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
As well, so they're just happy.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Everybody knows now because that's what you named the album exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I've aired out all the dirty laundry.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Well, look, you know, congratulations by the way, very much
on everything. As you know, the avalanche is about to start.
You've got the album, You've got the fans of the
stand singing back at you. I remember that from your
jingle Ball experience with us.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
It was such a joy to be included.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I think you could have forgotten the words and they
would have held you up.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
That happens frequently.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So, like I said, the album Daughter from Hell comes
ou July seventeenth, but Hit the Wall came out last night.
We're going to play it right now in the video
out yesterday as well