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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Back with another Sunday sampler. Coming up on Get Real
with Caroline Hobby. Caroline sat down with the ladies of
Runaway June and they talk about careers and being a mom,
and Caroline and Jen's young daughters also joined the podcast.
If you've seen the videos, kind of hilarious. This week
on the Bobby Cast, I sat down with Eric Church's
longtime manager, John pets Really interesting, gave us a behind
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the scenes look at what an artist manager does. How
he all play a role in Eric Church's career. You know,
he also manages Brad Eldridge, Brothers, Osbourne, Ashley McBride, so
it was interesting to hear how he juggles it all.
So we'll get to you know, Sore Losers and Mike,
Dee and Amy, but first let's start with this clip.
It's of this week's Bobby Cast with John Pete's how
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do you start with something you know is great and
something you know everybody else is eventually going to know
is great. It's gonna be a process to get there
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
How do you sit with.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Ashley and go I want to work with you and
I don't really want you to be anybody different, but
there's some steps we got to take in order to
if we want this goal, this goal or that goal,
and where do those conversations how do they happen?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I think you I always start with with what what
is your idea of success?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Like we talked about earlier. I think it's really.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Important to hear the elements of that I don't have
a choice is really a little strong. But you want
to feel like this person is called to do this,
and if it's going to be Saturday night, they're going
to be planning there at their friend's house, the coffee
shop or the arena, like it wouldn't really that much.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
No plan beaters is what I call them.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
And that that's number one, you know, And then you
can kind of like go, right, let's go drill further
into that.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And go what what do you? What can you do?
You really want a brand new car?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Early?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Are you? What do you? How do you view your
peer group?
Speaker 5 (01:54):
You know?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Which is always an interesting kind of thing because you
can't pin your stuff on other people's success.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
You really have to be tilling your own acre.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It's a trapping and yeah, and it's so hard because
it's in your face, you know, So trying to frame
up those kind of characteristics in a person, because the
talent is one thing, and then there's these characteristics that
seem like they're another thing, and a little bit of stubbornness,
you know, a little bit of like I mean, I
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sometimes I start with what is your greatest of all time?
And people have all kinds of different answers of that,
and they'll say, you know, someone say Johnny Cash or
Pink Floyd or whatever they say, and you put them
up on the board and you say, what do they
have in common? And what they have in common is
they're like nothing else. And I always say, that's what
I want to do. If you want to ask me
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what my calling is, I want a bunch of those.
And there's all kinds of derivatives. They're going to make
great money and great, great things.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I want to believe.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I want to work on the stuff that people will
never forget. And those things should be hard to find
and they should be hard to build, and you've got
to be ready for that. But immediately when you set
that tone, you're not looking for what's similar. You're looking
for what are your points of differentiation? Between you and
this see of what the country music community is, and
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that often comes with this is going to be really
hard and long because it's different.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, people don't like.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
People are told they don't like different things, because people
do like different things.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
It's just if it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Doesn't feel comfortable, we're like, ooh, should I trust it?
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Right?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
My moment with Ashley where I've like fell in love
with Ashley happened. It was kind of an uncomfortable situation
in a space. Somebody from a record label, a different
record label was like, hey, you know, and actually, and
I don't play music like I'm not. I don't pick music.
I'm not a program director. Sometimes people pin that on me.
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Just not my job. They told me to be go
be compelling for five hours. They put like three songs
up an hour. I might plan, I might not, but
I don't even pick them. But I could pick them
if I want to just play a song, I can,
but not my deal. And I remember somebody came up
to me and they were like, yeah, you guys don't
playing Ashley. And she said if you guys, you especially
or something like that to me, and I was like,
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good cats up, little food for yourself life Oh, it's
pretty bad.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It's pretty beautiful manful for.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
A little more than said he caut you're kicking it
with full Thing with Amy Brown.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
Hey, it's Amy Brown from Four Things with Amy Brown.
And here's what we talked about this week on my podcast.
Speaking of you getting another dog. He told a story
on The Bobby Bone Show of like taking a trip
to Mexico with your husband and coming back with a dog. Yes,
and I thought of you, and I saw this art
of the fights that couples always have on vacation and
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you know, taking a trip with your partner. I mean,
obviously you knew a month in you were gonna, yeah,
be with your guy forever. Which I feel like that's
another episode in itself, like I need to probably know.
I feel like you are a unicorn in that area.
I think there's probably a lot of people that made
a decision to move in with someone after a month
and it was like.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Did not go well?
Speaker 8 (05:23):
I'm sure what?
Speaker 7 (05:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (05:24):
I feel like I got lucky.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
So back to y'all's vacation and you're bringing the dog home.
Was that a fight between y'all or was it like
he's like, Okay, here's Josie, and this is just how
it is. I mean, obviously he knew who he was marrying,
so he knows. I'm like, I'm going to have animals.
But there definitely were a few tense moments on vacation,
and specifically when we were in Mexico and we were
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supposed to be out enjoying the day, and this little
straet dog had been following us the whole vacation and
I fell in love with her, and I was like,
we have to bring her home with us, Like I
can't leave her here. I will stay in Mexico before
I leave without this dog. And so in order to
get her home, we had to get her a Rabi's vaccine,
and so I ended up finding a vet clinic down
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there and getting her in and getting her rabies vaccinated.
And the only time they could do it was when
we were supposed to be out on the boat, so
we had to cancel our fun day. And I do
have a video of him or sitting in the clinic.
I'm like happy as can be holding her, she's getting vaccinated,
and he's in his like little vacation Fedora, just like
rubbing his temples, just like how the heck, have I
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ended up here on vacation? Well, this is one of
the number one things that couples fight about when on
vacation is because one of them is like really trying
to relax and maybe even going out and getting some adventure,
doing something sight seeing, like taking in culture all the things,
and another one their partner maybe just wants to still work.
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I'm telling you, like, I had no intention of bringing
her home, but when she.
Speaker 8 (06:58):
Looked into my eyes, I was like, we have to.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
And the craziest thing is He's like, Okay, if we
bring her home, we don't need three dogs, Like we'll
give her to your mom because my mom really wanted
a dog. And I'm like, okay, fine, that's totally fine.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
We can do that.
Speaker 7 (07:10):
In my head, I'm like yeah, right. So we get
her home, my mom comes down to Nashville to pick
her up, and the second she comes into the kitchen,
I start like crying. And I'm not a big crier,
like it takes a lot for me to cry. I'm like,
I don't think I can like let her go, like
I love her so much, and Cody was like, Okay,
we'll keep her. Like the second I started crying, those
are real tears. They weren't faked tears. And so all
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that to say that now he is obsessed with this dog.
She loves him more than me. I'm pretty sure at
some points he loves her more than he loves me,
like they are just like two little buddies. Now, So
it all ended up working out. Other things that couples
fight about on vacation. Is there the person that just
wants to plan everything out and then the other person
wants to be spontaneous. Yes, I feel like I tend
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to be more of the planner typically unless there's a dog.
Unless there's a dog, and then it's spontaneity wins. So yeah, absolutely,
I can see that for sure. Another fight, one typically
wants to make time for romance and the other well
isn't having it, so they just want to sleep, if
you know what I mean. And then the last thing,
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and this is all from the Huffington posts, by the way,
the fight is about too much spending versus being frugal
on the trip. I mean experiences. That's the number one
gift right now. I saw a whole write up on
that just that that's what people want. And so if
you're going to invest money into something and you're on vacation.
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I feel like that's the time to spend. Yeah, but
that's gonna be hard to be with someone that's frugal,
or to maybe even be with someone if you are
an animal lover too. Just tying that into it. Of
like in my marriage, which I feel like my ex
husband was always joking, but with Josie, anytimes she would
get so, he'd be like, well, she's a five hun
ar rollar dog, Like that's the limit. If it came
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down to it. I really feel like he would do something.
But I remember as the partner always being so nervous,
Like I'd go to the bed and I'd be like,
whatever it is, can you just keep it under five
hundred this visit and then if you need me to
come back, let me know, because I would have done anything.
Speaker 8 (09:09):
He loved dogs, right, but.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
He's also like, it's a dog, right, It's yeah, yep,
So everyone it's different. I feel like that is like
such an important thing prior to marriage or even in
your marriage, like just talking about because it's such a
huge aspect of it. It's almost like the kid conversation.
It is like the kid conversation or any value like
major Value system. So there's no price tag on our pets.
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We would do anything for them, both of us. No,
that is it's an important reminder of things to talk
about that you don't think of that could pop up
and just so that you know and you're on the
same page, or like, are you a cat person or not?
Because I love cats. You probably got the cat towards
the end of our marriage. And the cat's not why
it didn't it break out, But it's because my daughter
really wanted to get a cat, and I'm like, oh,
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I've always wanted a cat, so we finally got one.
But it probably would have been really difficult if he
had to say it's not happening, and we just never
we never even.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
Talked about that.
Speaker 7 (10:03):
Yeah, we talked about what kind of pets. Like my
sister had a bearded dragon and it died recently and
she was so sad and she wants to get another one.
And I'm her sister. I'm like, I never really knew
this about you, that you like this. She's like, well,
I don't even know. We just kind of got it
for the kids, but she really bonded with it. So
there are things that are going to come up and
you may evolve and decide you like something right. But
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if my partner came home and wanted a bearded dragon
or a snake, I would say this is that's a
deal breaker.
Speaker 8 (10:30):
It's a deal breaker.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Like I'm dating right now, and now this is reminding
me that maybe I need to have a rundown of
animals that are and a yeah, I mean just like no, no,
go yeah exactly, chickens maybe goats. So do you have
any farm animals like that?
Speaker 8 (10:47):
I don't.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
I have a horse, a twenty four year old horse.
He's retired now. He just hangs And do you ride
or I do?
Speaker 8 (10:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
I grew up on horses. My grandparents had a farm.
I grew up in Indiana, so I spent a lot
of time around horses and cows and chickens. And they
had deers at one point, so around all those animals.
Speaker 8 (11:05):
Or I just moved.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
There are a lot of deer in my neighborhood. And
they're very used to people. You can tell because they
do not They're not skittish, Like if I'm on a walk,
they will be right there just in someone's front yard.
I'm not scared at all. And I would like to
lure them to mine. I keep seeing them in my
neighbor's yard, and I don't know what's the rule on that.
Can I just put some I mean techeed Now, we're
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not supposed to feed wildlife? Are already there?
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (11:30):
Well then, I mean I have fed raccoons before. I mean,
I'm the crazy person, So I support you.
Speaker 9 (11:47):
We're gonna do it live.
Speaker 10 (11:49):
We are the one, two, three Sore Losers.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
What up, everybody? I am lunchbox. I know the most
about sports. I'll give you the sports facts, my sports opinions,
because I'm pretty much a sports genius.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Y'all.
Speaker 10 (12:03):
It's Sison. I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.
I live on the north side of Nashville with Bayser,
my wife. We do have a farm. It's beautiful, a
lot of acreage, no animals, a lot of crops. Hopefully
soon corn pumpkins, rye. I believe maybe a little fescue
to be determined.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Over to you, coach, and here's a clip from this
week's episode of The Sore Losers. I assume that if
we have a high payroll that we should be good,
because you should be. But we obviously aren't spending it
in the right places or doing the right thing. And
I don't know how you get but it is so
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bad to watch. And my kids get so excited, and
then we give up one goal and they're right, oh,
it's okay, we can score two goals. Then we give
up a second goal and they're like, Dad, we're gonna
lose again. Yeah, so's dad, We're gonna lose again. No
ice cream after the kids, and they are just so mad.
Dad just lost his No, I didn't bet on the game, right,
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they are so bad they can't be bet.
Speaker 9 (13:07):
It's tough to go to a game and not bet
on it.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
No, it is. It's really easy. You just buy tickets,
you go to the game, and you watch the game.
Speaker 10 (13:12):
I know the temptation is there, is what I'm saying.
And for me, I dude, I hit about twenty percent
of the games I go to. I miss every Titans game.
I don't no matter who I bet for the over, under,
miss miss miss. What are other teams here? The Preds
never win any of that crap. Believe the Preds game
we bet over and it went two. At the soot
Loses Convention, Yes, they didn't score the entire game. There's
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something about me going to games I cannot win one.
And I told, I warned justin about it. It ain't
real thing.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
The hardest part is not to get just wasted because
you're drowning your sorrows watching this team just get slacked
up and down the field, get their ass kicked every
single game. It is annoying. It's terrible, it is brutal.
I've never had this experience.
Speaker 10 (13:59):
Okay, I have real questions. Does the place sell out? No, dude,
let me tell you the Wednesday night game. Plenty of
great seats still available, plenty.
Speaker 9 (14:11):
I need to go to my first.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
It might have been half full.
Speaker 9 (14:14):
Ray, I always remember your first.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
I might maybe half full. It was a ghost town.
And let me tell you, people were heading for the
exits early.
Speaker 9 (14:25):
What is that crime? Is it old young Vandy bros?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Nah? But I think Vandy football had a team outing
because I saw about when we walked in, I saw
about nine guys in Vandy football shirts in about a
four minute period. So obviously it's a Vandy football It
was a Vandy football bonding experience or something tripped with
the coach and the players because there was a lot
of them there, and I'm just telling you that they
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had to leave early because they were like, this is terrible.
Ray A lot of women from sex you know what
Mandy football said. They said, Man, this reminds us it
was our football games. Everybody's leaving early. Not it is
just depressing.
Speaker 10 (15:04):
Yeah, well, Van, he's got construction. Titans Stadium's got construction.
It's tough for sports right now in Nashville. The Titans
games are gonna be unwatchable.
Speaker 9 (15:12):
I was telling we were.
Speaker 10 (15:13):
At a family pool party and I looked at the
schedule because I was considering betting that they never win,
whether a road game or a home game, home game,
that they never win a home game.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
That's a bad bet. Home game always they seem to
win one home game.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
But they did.
Speaker 10 (15:28):
They won one last year. See, but this year, I
think they maybe beat the Commanders. Other than that, dude,
they got tough games. I predict Titans go like three
and fifteen. Okay, fourteen. But so with that said, it's
just it's gonna be tough. It's a tough right now
in Nashville. SC not doing well. Fred's ended up doing
surprisingly well. We're expected to not even make the playoffs.
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Made it got kicked out, and then the Titans. It's
gonna be dreadful, although my cousin thinks they're gonna be amazing.
Speaker 4 (15:57):
What about the Sounds, I'm joke. Yeah, no one cares.
No one cares about minor leagues. Here's the thing, Ray
the Banana.
Speaker 9 (16:04):
Though.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
On the season, Nashville has only scored twenty six goals,
the second fewest in all of MLS.
Speaker 9 (16:13):
The worst strikers.
Speaker 10 (16:14):
If you have a kid in your backyard, we need
a striker. USA needs it, the Sounds need it. Probably
your high school team needs it. There's got to be
a four year old striker right now that we need
to get ready for the next Olympic.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
I mean, anybody in high school that can score a goal?
Speaker 8 (16:30):
Can you go?
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Can you send an email to NSC dot com and say, hey,
I volunteer to play for you guys. I mean the
Philadelphia team. They had some fourteen year old play for him.
Speaker 9 (16:39):
The other night.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
It's amazteen years old and he's playing in the MLS
and we can't score a goal. The dude is already
when he turns eighteen, going to Manchester City. Yeah, it's
in his contract once he signed, once he turns eighteen,
he becomes a man city player. I'm like, how good
does he have to freaking be to be that way?
Why can't we find any of the Nashville.
Speaker 10 (17:01):
Yeah, the soccer thing, there is a future in it.
We had a softball team up here the other day women.
Speaker 9 (17:07):
Sadly it did. Yeah, you weren't here. It was me
and Scuba.
Speaker 10 (17:11):
They're twelve years old and they put so much energy
into it. It teaches them team aspects, team chemistry, communication.
But other than that, dude, after high school college, there's
no future in softball.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I mean, there is a women's league, right.
Speaker 9 (17:25):
It's just a dead end. Sadly, because we were asking, what.
Speaker 10 (17:28):
Are you all gonna do? Oh, I don't know, we
just play softball. You probably need a career path at
least the thought. Not one of them knew what they
wanted to do.
Speaker 9 (17:37):
That's our future.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Man.
Speaker 9 (17:39):
They were good kids though.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Yeah. And then another weird thing that happened at the game.
Is my son, my six year old. Now he's six.
It was his birthday. He was like, Dad heard Dad
ad Webster. Webster said he's gonna be here tonight. Kid
from his class, he's like, Webster said, he's gonna be here.
You need to text his mom see if he's here.
Speaker 10 (17:56):
Son is a stadium of forty thousand people over to
my dead body.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
And I'm like, alright, alright, So I tell my wife, Hey,
he says Webster's gonna be here. He wants to text
his mom, and she's like, should I really do it?
I was like, no, just say you did it?
Speaker 9 (18:06):
You want me to text.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Two minutes later, he goes, mom, have you texted Webster's
mom yet? Have you texted Webster's mom yet?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (18:13):
The mom actually said golf.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
And so my wife's like, all right, I guess I'm
gonna text Webster's mom.
Speaker 9 (18:18):
Honey, I'm gonna fake text you.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
And so she texted him and she replied to me like, yes,
we're here. We're in section whatever, row whatever, if you
want to meet up in the concourse at halftime. And
I was like great, and my son's like, no, we
gotta go right now. We gotta go right this before
the game is start. We gotta go see Webster right now.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
Son, Webster tragically died.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Webster's passed.
Speaker 9 (18:41):
The gate.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
It's all right, look.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
Dadd he's alive at school.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
So we go down to see Webster, and I mean,
kids are the weirdest thing ever, because he goes up
and he's like, Webster, what's up? And then they just
stand apart and don't even talk, like they both look
different directions and they stand there and I'm like, all right,
let's go back up. He's like, no, Dad, I'll want
to talk. I want to hang with Webster for a
little bit. I'm not even talking. You're not even talking
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to Webster. And Webster's mom talks to me. She's like,
isn't it weird how kids are.
Speaker 9 (19:11):
Yeah, we like to talk a lot, though, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
She's like, she she says, they want to be around
each other, but not too close to each other. They're
excited to see each other, but they don't talk to
each other. She goes, it really reminds me of middle
school with boys and girls. It's like, oh, I see
him from across the room. It's cool, we're in the
same room, but we're not gonna actually communicate. I'm excited
that Webster's at the game, but I'm not gonna like
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say anything to him. I'm just gonna stand in his
vicinity and that way he knows I'm here. He's here,
but I'm excited to see him.
Speaker 9 (19:41):
You really talk with your chest Webster's mom, I mean eyes.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
It was really weird because Webster's mom talked to me
and dad did not talk to me.
Speaker 9 (19:49):
Yeah, he considers you a threat.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
He turned around, looked at me. He's like, all right,
colling to sat back down, look at the field.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
I'm with comfortable silence.
Speaker 11 (19:55):
Now.
Speaker 9 (19:55):
If I don't have anything common with somebody, I just
stand there.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Well, how does he know? He's never talked to me?
So we might have a lot in common. We might
be BFFs. Yeah, you're both guys, and we're both at
Nashville SC. We're both miserable because the team is terrible.
We both have kids, we both have boys.
Speaker 10 (20:10):
Webster's dad, how's your marriage? There you go, there's your
talking point. Well, actually it's pretty bad.
Speaker 9 (20:16):
We're gonna get a divorced.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Oh oh hey, hey, Webster's dad, I don't know you.
Let's play a little game. I get to know. You
want to go politics or religion first, it's called grab bag.
If you want to go politics or religion, you go birst.
How often are you guys having sex? Webster's dad, Hey,
Webster's dad. You know what I mean. What's your wife's
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favorite position?
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Dude?
Speaker 10 (20:40):
Remember Amy from The Big Show Four Things with Amy Brown?
You were at an sc game and she did the
same thing as your kid in Webster. Yes, she texted
and said, hey, meet up with me on the concourse.
And you said, I rarely meet up with you in.
Speaker 9 (20:52):
The break room. Why would at work? Why would I
meet up with you in the concourse?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Why would I want to come up there and see you.
It's just a thing like it's like you feel like
you have to come say hi because you're at the
same stadium. When we work in the same studio every
single morning, and when you leave that studio, you say
maybe seven words to me.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
Amy is Webster, Webster is Amy.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Hey, it's Mike d.
Speaker 12 (21:12):
This week a movie Mike's Movie Podcast, my wife Kelsey
and I broke down the list of the top ten
young Hollywood stars, the ones that are most in demand
right now. I decided to rank them. I'll share you
now just a little bit of the list. Here's the
top three, but you have to hear this entire list
because we break down every single actor. They're best and
worst movies. But right now here's just a little bit
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of movie Mike's movie podcast. Well at number three, you're
not gonna like this one, but I feel like this
is a perfect slot for him. It is Austin Butler.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
Oh, I knew it.
Speaker 12 (21:44):
For the Hollywood Reporter new it described as the Golden Boy.
He is thirty two years old. And the reason I
put him above Glenn Powell is because of Elvis Oh.
I think that role, even though you had their lover hate,
it put him on an entirely different level. And I
think the people in the top three have that one
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defining role.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
But here's the thing, and I feel like I have
found myself being an Austin Butler hater lately, and I
don't mean to be, but it's like his projects after that,
like Masters of Air. We gave up watching that, and
I thought I was gonna be so excited World War
two planes, Austin Butler, great cast. What's that other guy's
name Callum Turner, fun dating Dualipa doula people I thought
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it was gonna be great, didn't like that bike riders
like he Just I feel like it's that curse of
like you get a great role and then your type
cast is that forever.
Speaker 12 (22:37):
I will say, I think those two examples you had
after that are for an entirely different audience, and we
are just not in that audience because I think I
could see grandma's loving him.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
What grandma's are going to see bike riders?
Speaker 12 (22:52):
I think Masters of the Air was probably more for
an older audience.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
What grandmas have Apple TV? Well, my grandparents running have nets.
Speaker 12 (22:59):
I see more grandma's being into Masters of the Air,
and then I see like an older guy being into
bike riders.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
You're calling me and grandma for like ko my World
War two books.
Speaker 13 (23:09):
Well, the time period, the time period, I've taken yourself
into a different audience, So I could see him kind
of appealing to that more than say, like a Janet Ortega, who's.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
That's honestly insulting to his career though, Like I don't,
you're not building a case for him. At number three,
you just said grandma's with like his performance, Hey, older
dudes in a byte gang.
Speaker 12 (23:29):
You know how successful the TV show ncis is that
has a much older audience.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
I forget that that show is still around blue bloods.
Speaker 12 (23:37):
I feel like sometimes, like even talking about movies, talking
about TV shows, we focus on the things that we
like and also coincide with the things that are popular
on you know, on social media, people talk about the
most right those aren't always the most watched. Me going
to see Long Legs. Not everybody's going to see that.
They're going to see Despicable Me before. So it's those
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things that we reach a much wider audience, like the
NCIS is the Blue Bloods.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
Stop thinking about Ince?
Speaker 12 (24:05):
Okay, And people hate when I bring up that reference
because some people love it.
Speaker 9 (24:08):
I know some people love it.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
Watched the first few seasons of Blue Bloods when I
lived at home because my mom watched it.
Speaker 6 (24:13):
Pretty good show.
Speaker 12 (24:15):
So I think if you were trying to reach the
biggest audience in Middle America, I feel like Austin Butler
is going to take roles that speak to that more.
He's going to land more in if he takes the
right roles in the level of like a Tom Hanks.
I'm not comparing him to Tom Hanks, but as far
as doing roles that everybody because I think he can
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walk that line of doing the big blockbuster but also
having that indie Darling look where he could go do
an A twenty four movie. I think he'd be pretty versatile,
which I think all these actors can do and have
already done. But at number two, I have Zendeiya, Yes,
who is described by the Hollywood Reporter as the Unicorn.
She is twenty seven years old.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
She's perfect, and she is absolutely perfect. She is she
is just perfection.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
She has had such a long career already at twenty seven,
from the Disney Channel to Spider Man euphoria Challengers like
I I'm Zinda's biggest fan.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
I love her.
Speaker 12 (25:14):
But yes, at number two is Zendiya at number one?
Can you guess it? Tom Holland, No, I feel like
he's the class before. Okay, can I have a hint?
He's twenty eight years old. Hollywood Reporter describes him as
the sheer thing, so it's a het.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Has he been in anything we watched recently?
Speaker 8 (25:31):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (25:32):
I feel like this was one of my daily New
York Times games.
Speaker 12 (25:35):
I think you can get this, Oh timmy tim Timothy Shaloman,
there you go, thank you. I think both him and
Zendia at one and two. I think any major role
is theirs to turn down. I feel like, if you
have a big movie coming out, you need a big
star if it's male, you want Timothy Alime. If it's female,
you want Zendia, And then if they say no, it
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goes on to everybody else. I feel like they can
do anything they want, work with any director, play any character.
Timothy Shallow may going to be Bob Dylan is probably
awesome for him, only he could do that right now.
Zendaa could play anybody she wants him.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Dating Kylie Jenner's really just still throwing me off together.
Such an odd pairing. They are such a weird pairing
to me. She's kids and he's like a theater kid. Yeah, like, yeah,
it's a weird pairing to me. I also love his sister, Pauline.
She's in the Sex Lives of College Girls on HBO.
I think she's a great actress. So clearly the talent
runs in the family.
Speaker 12 (26:30):
But he is also somebody that I feel I like
both on and off screen. Even though him and the
biggest fan of the Dune franchise loved him in Wonka,
loved Twonka, loved him in Like the A twenty four
movies like Lady Bird, so he's also done it all.
He was great in Little Women.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
He was so funny on snl.
Speaker 12 (26:48):
Yeah, he's also great at comedy.
Speaker 6 (26:50):
Him and Pete Davidson. I sing there like little rap song.
Speaker 12 (26:53):
It was Pete Davidson, right, Yeah, Okay, so that was
their list that I decided to rank.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Carol n she's a queen and talking song.
Speaker 9 (27:26):
She's getting really not afraid to feel episod, so just
let it flow.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
No one can do we quiet car Line. It's sounding Caroline.
Speaker 14 (27:38):
Hey, y'all, it's Caroline Hobby from Get Real with Caroline Hobby.
And here is a clip from this week's episode. First off,
I'm here with my personal favorite girl trio group of
all times, run Away June.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
So many memories with you guys.
Speaker 14 (27:55):
And before we get into all that, though, we also
have two special guests. We have Lily who's Jin's dot
and Sunny Daughter, and I guess it's loud. It's loud
in the ears got a little.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
So we're going to attempt to do this with our children.
Speaker 14 (28:15):
It's gonna be great, and we're going to talk about
a children children's album that y'all are just a part
of Growing Up Country Volume two, So it's kind of fitting.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
It's kind of perfect me in do.
Speaker 14 (28:26):
We have some history in some life.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
You guys, especially you, Jen.
Speaker 14 (28:31):
I mean we grew up together, pretty Mike, we did.
We have lived so many lives together.
Speaker 11 (28:38):
You were an original member of Runaway June, so we
have to be your favorite group. You're part of it.
Speaker 9 (28:43):
I don't have any choice in.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
That Runaway June.
Speaker 14 (28:46):
Y'all are amazing though, because it's the band that has
kept evolving, you know, and all three of you guys
are so talented in your own right, and how y'all
came together to make this band and all of your
destined to be great in music and whatever you do,
Like now you're hosting the opry.
Speaker 8 (29:05):
All you guys have somebody time.
Speaker 14 (29:06):
Stevie, you played like seventeen instruments. Jin, you could be
a manager. You know how to work the industry better
than anyone. But y'all coming together has been Hey, Hey, okay, Sonny,
you got about one more chance before you gotta hit the.
Speaker 8 (29:20):
Road with dad.
Speaker 14 (29:23):
Y'all coming together is like a moment in time.
Speaker 8 (29:25):
How did this happen? Let's talk? First off, let's talk.
Speaker 14 (29:27):
About y'all's lives before you came together. And Jin, I'm
gonna start with you just because we've lived a million lives.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
Tell me about you.
Speaker 14 (29:33):
Tell me about your upbringing, tell me about how you
found music and how you knew this was going to
be your destiny forever.
Speaker 11 (29:38):
Well, when you said tell me about your lives before this,
I automatically thought pre baby, and I was like, Oh,
that was when I could just take my time in
the morning and I didn't have, you know, someone tiking
at me. But pre runaway June. I moved to Nashville
when I was twenty three.
Speaker 14 (29:54):
You were one of the first you like, you lived
in a house with like seven girls, three of them
were not supposed to be living there, and.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Found like four dogs.
Speaker 11 (30:01):
I rented a house that was supposed to be three girls,
and the lady had rented every crevice like the sun room,
the backyard, there was a tent, the attic.
Speaker 8 (30:09):
There was dogs.
Speaker 14 (30:13):
No the girl and the ran electricity out to the tent,
so she she had no.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
Rent because she rented, you know, everyone else was staying.
Speaker 14 (30:22):
It was raining and snowing and stuff.
Speaker 11 (30:24):
And it was supposed to be my one chihuahua and
they were like ended up being I don't know, three
or four dogs there. So anyway, it was a fun.
Speaker 14 (30:31):
What did the girl and that didn't do when the
weather hit, like when it was snowing and raining.
Speaker 11 (30:35):
That's what I wanted.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
I don't remember. That was wild man.
Speaker 14 (30:41):
Those were the days when like we were so young,
doing everything we could just to like get in the
business and like make your way and you know, be
a part of this wild thing that now we've all
been a part of for like twenty years.
Speaker 11 (30:54):
It feels like, yeah, And that's what's so great about
Nashville is it's such a small community, you know, and
so I feel like when you kind of get in,
you start meeting everybody. And you and I met and
we started writing, and I'm doing music together. We used
to play ten roof every Monday night, but not together separately,
like she would play, I would play. And then I
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remember she was can I tell a story? Sure?
Speaker 8 (31:18):
I don't know what you're going to tell.
Speaker 11 (31:19):
She was dating I won't say the name, but she
was dating when a singer and he showed up and
she had written the song.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
About dating him.
Speaker 14 (31:25):
I was wanting to be dating, wanting to be dating,
and it found out he was He was a young
hot singer.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
Oh, I mean he was dating a lot of he
was seeing a lot of people. He was not trying
to be exclusive. I thought we were trying to be exclusive.
Speaker 11 (31:36):
But and she wrote the song called I'm So over You,
and she would get up there and she would sing
it like right to.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
So great I got you.
Speaker 11 (31:47):
But anyway, so we started writing music and then we
joined a band together.
Speaker 14 (31:52):
And I remember sitting in the car with you because
we were both a little nervous to do it by ourselves. Yeah,
like I was nervous to be a solo artist. You
were to be a solo artist, although you did have
a record deal with like was it Madonna's label or.
Speaker 8 (32:06):
Manager MERV Griffin.
Speaker 11 (32:07):
MERV Griffin started a will of fortunes managing Ma Donna's manager.
Speaker 8 (32:12):
Jim came in hot.
Speaker 14 (32:13):
She's John Wayne's granddaughter, and she had MERV Griffin had
a label for you. Madonna was Madonna's manager, was your manager,
And you came in like.
Speaker 8 (32:21):
I had no idea what I was doing. You were
like looking out, I'm here. I couldn't sing or do
anything yet. But she had confidence, and you know, I
think that's a key. That's everything, that's every day everything
you believed.
Speaker 14 (32:31):
And but then we I remember we just sat in
the car and we just started dreaming of ideas, like
how can we make this work?
Speaker 8 (32:37):
What can we do?
Speaker 14 (32:38):
And then we came up reality TV had just started,
and then we came up with it, we should.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
Be we should create a reality show.
Speaker 14 (32:44):
We should make a reality show and do it. And
then we came up with this idea called the Girls
and we found Taylor Linn, Loretta's granddaughter on was like
MySpace back in the day. I mean, we just tried
to piece this thing together because we were like, how
can we make something that's pagfull and get in the business.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
And how do we stand out reality else?
Speaker 11 (33:05):
So but we did it. We did a reality show,
and so talk about dreaming stuff up. I feel like
when you dream things, you can actually do it. You know,
if you think nothing's ever gonna happen, nothing will ever happen.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
Right, really? Yeah?
Speaker 11 (33:20):
And so that's how we and then we became a
trio and we with Taylor and we did.
Speaker 8 (33:26):
A whole radio tour. I'm still on radio tour twenty
years later?
Speaker 14 (33:29):
How are you still on a radio tour twenty years later?
Speaker 8 (33:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 11 (33:32):
I have no idea, she keeps, She's like, I don't
know what, Like how is it still happening?
Speaker 8 (33:38):
Like it never ends? How are you not?
Speaker 14 (33:40):
You? Honestly you win the award for the longest radio
tour because to tell everyone what is radio tour because
people might not realize what radio tear?
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Girls.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
Yeah, bring it down, girls, tell us what that is.
You're you're the expert. So radio tour is you.
Speaker 11 (33:51):
When you are a new artist, you go to basically
every single radio station and have to play for them
and play music for them, and you try to win
over station by station by station, and there's one hundred
and sixty ish stations on the panel. So it's a
lot of travel, a lot of time, and uh yeah,
every new song you kind of basically do radio tour
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all over again.
Speaker 14 (34:15):
So it frustrating to first off, y'all are also talented
and obviously, Jen, you've been doing this for twenty years. Natalie,
you've been doing this for so long too, because we
met because Jen and I were your regional which.
Speaker 7 (34:27):
We did break that down, which I just found out
and that's.
Speaker 8 (34:30):
Like blowing my mind.
Speaker 14 (34:31):
So Jan and I, after we got off the amazing
race and our kind of career stalled out as artists,
we'd been doing it for maybe like almost seven ten
years or something, and then we got the opportunity to
do the Amazing Race, which was so fun.
Speaker 8 (34:45):
We can talk about that.
Speaker 14 (34:45):
Later, but we became regionals for an independent record label,
which means you go around promoting an artist, and the
artist that we promoted was Natalie.
Speaker 7 (34:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (34:56):
So talk about having the dream team because our I
remember when the label shut down and I still had
all of these radio visits that I had to go to.
I would walk into the station and they'd be like,
where's Caroline and Jim, And I'm.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
Like, that's a lot, guys, I do you care about me?
Speaker 8 (35:12):
They're here for me?
Speaker 15 (35:14):
But it was yeah, and it was so funny because
that was my first radio tour was with you guys.
But it wasn't a traditional radio tour. I didn't go
station to station. I would play shows and then all
of the pds would, the program directors would come to
me and we would meet everybody. We went to a
few stations together, but for the most part, it was
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just like chaos to me because I'd play a show
and then there'd be like seventy five different radio stations
there and I'd be like, hi, Hi, Hi, Hi.
Speaker 14 (35:42):
It's amazing that you could knock it all out at once.
Speaker 15 (35:45):
It was I met a lot more people in one
shot that way. But then it also has been wild
to be on the road with these girls and go
station to station because it just takes a lot longer
that way, but you get more individual time with each person.
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Speaker 9 (36:19):
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