25W: One Thing Bobby Can't Get Off His Mind + An Inside Look Into the NFL with Matt Overton

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
It's a podcast call twenty fives Stocking fun Ball and
they are well WI, so, yeah, it's too bad, But
what did you expect?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's a podcast called twenty five twenty line.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Hello, welcome everybody. Matt Overton is with us. Matt, how
many years do you play in the NFL?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Ten? Credited seasons? And uh?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
What do you mean credited?

Speaker 5 (00:27):
So if you play three games or more in a season,
you get a credited season?

Speaker 1 (00:30):
What if you play two?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
Nope?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Did you did you have any seasons it weren't credited?

Speaker 4 (00:35):
Yeah? Last year bears?

Speaker 1 (00:37):
How many games?

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Zero? Is on practice squad?

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Oh? I get that?

Speaker 4 (00:41):
You know?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Yeah, so practice.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
Squad guys, you know they don't get credited seasons.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Does that work towards your pension?

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Practice squad Nope?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Do you get pension though? Now after being ten credited year?

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (00:49):
So after I believe after three years you get a pension.
When does that start?

Speaker 1 (00:55):
What? Age?

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Fifty five is the earliest?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Well used? Can you draw it to fifty five if
you want to?

Speaker 4 (01:00):
Yeah, if you want to max it out, go to
sixty five?

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Read Did you know he played in the NFL?

Speaker 4 (01:05):
No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, I knew.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Okay, what sucked was before we get into sports. Uh.
Matt came over to the house yesterday and we played pickleball,
and I'm not used to playing good people. Drum me
the first two games, and then I drummed him the
next two and I was like, let's go, and then
he hed be. We tied it up in game the
game five, and then he I can't stop thinking about it.
I've obsessed about it since it was over. And he

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beat me going into deuce because we'd get the one
by two, and he beat me by two at the
very end, and I've been so pissed ever since. Anyway,
good to see you.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Well you're pissed, and I'm sorry, so are you?

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Hey? That's good. Well, my body hurts me nickleball singles man,
that is where it's at. My ankles hurt, my feet,
hurt my knees, serves you right?

Speaker 6 (01:45):
How long does five games last?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Well, so Reid was also playing a little bit, a
little bit What does that mean? So whoever won? Readun
play the next person so it's like winter stays up?
But then read how many games did you play yesterday? Overall?

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Three?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Four?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:59):
Yeah, probably three?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
We get rid of re Read real quick and then
go back to playing each other. And so because this
is pretty competitive with us too, Read's getting better. Nice,
but we played for like hour and a half, but
it was like ninety five degree.

Speaker 6 (02:14):
Yeah, that was gross out.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Man. Reid is a great motivator and a great coach. No, no,
this is the stupidest thing ever. Read is at my
house almost every day, and Read starts rooting for Matt
under his breath a little bit. But it started off
like yeah, yeah, then it was like oh yeah, and like, dude,
that sucks. You're supposed to be he never did that
for you, He should do it for me. We play it.
We're together every day, play each.

Speaker 7 (02:35):
Other, and he just kills me every single time.

Speaker 6 (02:37):
So he's like, yeah, somebody came over.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
I would I would miss a shot and Read would
be like.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
Like, oh man, I think he knew he was making noise.
Next stupid Did you ready merge baby, Matt?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
When you were in the NFL, would you go to camp?
Would you go to o t as Yeah? Okay, so
you would do that before camp April through June, and
then we're OTA's mandatory or voluntarily voluntary, depends on who
you are you No?

Speaker 4 (03:05):
So I had to go for sure.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
So, yeah, the lone long snapper is not going to
be the guy that doesn't show up.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
And usually there's only one on the roster, right.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Yeah, sometimes you'll compete against her younger guy or something.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Whenever the roster is set though there's only one long snapper. Yeah,
so what if you get hurt during a game? Is
there a back emergency snapper.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Of the time.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
No, Sometimes they'll have somebody that's maybe done in the
practice a few times, and I mean very seldomly, So
you either had to have to just fight it out.
I mean, if you can physically walk, you you got
to go figure it out, you know. But if you
have a broken arm or a leg or acl whatever, yeah,
you're out and they got to they gotta find somebody
just to do it or they're going to go for

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it on fourth down.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
Well, and so that would be the question. I would
get a snapper for a field goal because you can
go for two. Yeah, you can go for it, but
if you're four worth and nineteen from your own twenty two.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
You got to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, that suck you ever did you ever see that happen?
Whereas and Epper went down.

Speaker 5 (04:08):
And myself, Yeah, I dislocated my shoulder in Jacksonville and
they had to put our fullback in who would do
it in practice maybe every now and then he would
do it. He was you know, he was okay. And
then they used our center for field goal.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Because he probably had a little experience.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
A little bit of experience, you know, and you know,
it all worked out. But yeah, I went out put
on ir the next week. They had to figure it out.
We ended up winning the game, and uh, I think
it came down. It was a pretty close game. It
was against the Chargers, and uh, we needed like a
pivotal pat and they converted.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Was your first NFL game with the Colts?

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (04:49):
How long were you with the Colts?

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Five years?

Speaker 5 (04:52):
From the Colts? Then where did you go? Jacksonville for two,
then Titans for one?

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Oh yeah, I forgot you played here.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Well was during the COVID. Everyone forgets that year.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I guess that's why.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Yeah, and then I went to the Chargers and then
Dallas and then last year spent the last week of
the season on practice squad with the Bears.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
When they bring you in for the practice squad, what
do you even do I know, you practice, that's the
easy thing.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
So their guy was hurt. They brought me in.

Speaker 5 (05:17):
He didn't practice all week, and then I pretty much
did all the practicing for him, and and with the
intent that I would play if he couldn't go on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
And then he went, and then he went. Yeah, a
little bit where you like, come on, baby, don't go. No.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
I wanted to play, for sure, but it's also you
get a lot of anxiety because you're you're preparing as
if you just don't know what's going to happen. So
it's like I'd rather know now if I'm going to
play or not and not lose sleep over the next
three days, you know, just kind of guessing and sitting
here like cause I'm I'm game planning and watching all
the film and watching everything. I'm trying to learn terminology, schematics,
what the Green Bay Packers are going to bring, all

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that kind of stuff. And it was a big game
because the Packers needed to win that game to go
to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Last year, was there ever a trick play that involved
you that you never got to do? Like, can there
be a trick player for this? For the long snapper to.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Get the ball.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Yeah, or like we had in Indie, we had a
formation where I was the last man on the line
of scrimmage. I would report as an eligible receiver. I'd
snap it to McAfee. I would do like some kind
of vertical route.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
Oh, that would be awesome.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
We did it in practice.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
Yeah, we always waited for all the time when that
ball was in the air.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
I was shaking as I.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Because some you know, I think when a defense would aligned,
they would check out of some kind of you know, formation,
they would go safe and they probably wouldn't call. They
would forget to count the long. Then I got through
with the long snapper and then there I go out.
I'm free. The ball's drifting in the air for five
seconds and they're shaken. But I had my I had
my touchdown celebration ready, Like in my mind.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
What would that have been.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
I don't even remember what it was, but I remember
like just mentally preparing, like all right, if I get
this in the zone, I take it to the house.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
I got to do something epic.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
So that's gonna be one of those formations because again
last man on the line, which was used, so that
means everybody's on one side of you for the most part,
unless there's like a receiver's off the line on the left.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Again, it would be one of those things where I
snapped it to mcfeel was a punter at the time.
He would have to see that no one's covering me.
If not, he would check it down to somebody else,
or he'd run it himself. But I guess I'm saying, though,
how how you're lined up? If you're the last man
on the line.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
That means, let's say, everybody's lined up to the right
of you, unless there's like a wide receiver that's off
the line.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Sure.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
There.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
Again, I'm awful with football schematics and what's eligible not,
but I just remember I had to report as eligible
last man in the line of scrimmage, and then whatever
everybody else is doing to my left, you know, they
had to be certain guys on and off the line.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
That would be I would be waiting for that call,
and then when he called, I'd be like, holy crap.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah, I would be.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
And you'd practice it how often we.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
Had it installed for a few weeks.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
We would always do it against a team who had
a legit returner like Antonio Brown, Tyreek Hill, so we
would go to that formation. They would check out of
their rush into a safe look. Some teams would do
two turners, so we would we would do that to
manipulate their rush. And again it would be obviously a
pivotal time where it's either least expected or we needed

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a conversion, you know, to keep keep the offense on
the field. But then I was also a part of
the worst fake in NFL history too. If you remember
that against the Patriots, you probably remember that. Huh yeah,
I remember.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
I'll tell I'll go them what I remember next, But
tell me about the worst fake ever.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
All right, So we had planned this again. We're going
against Bill Belichick, Tom Brady. They're at our place. It's
like Sunday night football, Colts Colts. Yeah, and uh, you
know it was always our rival game, but when I
was there, we never beat them. This is you know,
I'm I'm the Andrew luckyra I'm not the Peyton Manning era.
So we always prepare. We we try to find some

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sort of gimmick every single year, whether it's the offense,
defense or special teams. And this week it's special teams.
And we were we went out and lined up in
this formation, hoping that the we check out of their front,
and then our anticipation was that they would again miscalculate
who's eligible kind of stuff. So we go out there.
The entire week, we prepare I'm not the center. So

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we go out there, we line up in normal punkformation,
we check out of it.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
Everyone scrambles to the right.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
Our PP, which is the personal protector, and one of
the gunners or so becomes center and quarterback and it's
it's a normal If you look at the play, it's
them two all by themselves on island and all of
the rest of us are on the right.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
So the entire week they.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Got swinging gate. That's what I'm kind of picturing high school,
like a swinging gate type thing.

Speaker 5 (09:35):
It was kind of one of it was it was
fourth and short, so it's one of those things where
if they only lined one guy up over that center,
you were going to get it. They were at a
hike k it and do get the yard. It'd be
like a QB sneak kind of thing. Well, the guy
that played center in the game didn't practice all week long,
so you know, before the game, guys get elevated they
get dropped down, you know, an hour before the game. Well,

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this in particular person was healthy than have to play
the game.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
We needed him.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
The guy who practiced was either taking off of the
punt team or he didn't dress that game. So when
they went out there, we practiced that there was all
these dummy calls, you know, oh maha, omaha, all that
kind of stuff. Right, So when he heard that, he
thought it was I need to hike the ball.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Oh my god. So because he hadn't practiced.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
He didn't he didn't practice it. So it was a
complete gaff.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Obviously, when you're playing Bill Belichick, they leave no stone unturned.
They covered it perfectly, and they hiked the ball and
just sacked my buddy Cole Anderson, who is now the
SPECSH teams coordinated for the Titans. And it has been
known as the worst watching it.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Okay, so okay, it it aunems like a swinging gate.
So everybody moves over to the right. There's just simply
a center and a guy behind him. There are three
guys still up on the line, so there's no way
that he's just going to be able to snap it too.
The one guy. There's no way he's going to get
the yards. Everybody's to the right the center. Now, oh
my god, Oh that's dead. So Colet who gets the ball?

Speaker 5 (10:57):
He was he wasn't expecting to get the ball because
you were never supposed to snap it. We're going to
take a time out or delay a game.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
He was like, what the crap?

Speaker 6 (11:04):
Yeah, at least he didn't fumble.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
But and that was that was a big momentum ship
of the game because I think we're winning at the time,
maybe by three, and then they go score right away
and then lights up from there.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Dank the play that I remember because I'm I'm a
big Matt Overton fan. I was so pumped when you
were going to the Cowboys because one, I just would
always be super excited wherever you would go. I see, like,
I'm you know, fly to Jacksonville, mess be like let's go, yeah,
you know, or when you're going to the Cowboys, like
that's freaking awesome. And Eddie and Mike are big Cowboy fans.
But like your first was your first snap of Dallas?

(11:36):
Was that not a good snapp? Am I right here?
Or was everything? No?

Speaker 4 (11:38):
It was a good snap, it just wasn't at the
right time.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
I guess that'd be a premature, that would be okay.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
So in my book, it was a perfect snap.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
And just so what happened there because you were new
to the team, was it you you I don't know,
did you not know or was it just nerves or what?

Speaker 4 (11:54):
No.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
I honestly when you go on the Philly kind of blackout.
But in the moment, you know, leading up, I got
signed on a Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
I thought, I remember it was super quick.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
Yeah, their guy I got put on IR I got
signed on Wednesday. So I practiced maybe two times with
the team leading.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Up to that game.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
We did a lot of stuff off the side with
you know, the kicker and the punter and the field
goal operations and whatnot. And I just remember it was
the first drive of the series. We get a sack,
strip fumble recovery to the house. So again I'm on
the bench, so I'm just kind of chilling because the
defense on the field, and that's typically.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
What specialists do in the defense on the field.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
You just chilling and uh, momentum shift, you know, sudden change.
I run out there, Grandma, Hemel ran out there to Pat.
I just remember getting out there. I'm friends with Jalen Ramsey.
I was on the Rams practice squad the week before,
so I go out there and I'm kind of just
staying what's up to the guys. I get it getting
my stance, and again, it's all about timing. It's all
about you know, how how long it takes this the

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kicker to get into his you know, his progression pre
pre kick.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
And I just remember getting my stance.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
I'm in my stands for like two or three seconds
and I don't know if I saw a hand movement
or something like that, and I just premature snap. It
hit him right in the face mask. So that was
my first play as a Dallas cowboy. Not good, Hey,
then it was a good snap. If you didn't mind
the face mask, then it was.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
A perfect No, it was. It was a dime, dude.
So then what do they say? You're the new guy?

Speaker 5 (13:15):
You come off so obviously I'm like super Just Coarp
said and and whatnot, and I'm like, how could this
be my very first impression as a Dallas cowboy?

Speaker 1 (13:23):
You know, it was a pat not a huge deal,
but still, what do they say to you?

Speaker 5 (13:27):
Oh, dude, Mike McCarthy and Coach Bones especially teams coordinator,
one of the best coordinators in NFL. He's incredible. But
they were. They were super calm and collected. I had
nobody like in my face, you know whatever, and then
went from there and then everything was smooth sailing.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Are you tight the second time? Do you think about
the first time?

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Like, man, that first one, I mean, yeah, you gotta,
you gotta, you mean you gotta have a very short
term memory for sure.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, I would not have that like, but I was more.
I was more worried about it. Piste up and beat
me a pickleball yesterday. I have no short term member.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
I was more worried about my first interaction with the
boss man, Jerry Jones.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Jerry Jones.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
The next week he comes out in his jumpsuit and
talking to the specialist, and that was my first time
actually officially meeting him, and I was like, oh, man, dude,
I hope he doesn't remember my first play as a
Dallas cowboy. But you know, he was a good dude
and never said anything and just kind of business usual.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Move on to the next one.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Was it pretty cool being a cowboy?

Speaker 4 (14:26):
It was.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
It was very cool. It's iconic. Man, It's like being
a Yankee, Like.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
I think it's probably really cool to make the NFL
and you have a really cool underdog story of how
you made the NFL. But yeah, I like being a Yankee,
and I'm not a Yankees fan. I'm not really a
Cowboys fan, but it would be really cool to be
a Cowboy because that's like that it'd be like a
packer or like these brands that are synonymous with like
old school NFL that have existed and thrived for so long.

Speaker 5 (14:54):
I mean, I grew up a nin Er fan, so
my ten year old self would hate the fact that
I become a Cowboy one day. But going there, it
was just like you know, you go to the Star,
you go to Jerry's world. You see just how everything
is ran as an operation, as a business, as an organization.
I mean, you wouldn't believe like the difference from the
Tier ones to the Tier threes in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
That's what's crazy to me is so I went. I
filled in for rich Eisen for a couple of shows
in LA and the massive set up and their producer
will come over and be like, hey, here are these notes.
They just released all of the food trainers family, all
the grades that the players would give each organization, and
so I was reading through them, I was so surprised

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that certain teams would get And I'm not going to
mention any teams because i know this season you're open
to playing again this year, So we won't mention any
teams because I don't want you to say anything about
a team.

Speaker 5 (15:45):
I'm not afraid to say anything because reality everyone knows this.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
So there would be f's for certain people for like food,
and I'm like, what NFL team would not give perfect
food to the gladiators. They need to be in the
best physical condition. Someone be c minus treating families. So
that's when it really hit me that everything's not the
same even in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
I'll give you an example. So you know, I've played
for five different organizations. They've all been great. I've all
had an incredible experience everywhere I go. But I'll give
you a perfect example of facilities. So the rams they're
literally in it looks like a middle school.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
It's all mobile, Like, what do you mean they're in it? Well,
so they're on the campus. They're on the campus of
Cal Lutheran, so they're kind of up on the hill
of Cal Lutheran for what though, like daily practice.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yeah, that's the that's their home facility.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
They have two outdoor or three outdoor fields and it's
all modules every week.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
You're not camp you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Yeah, they're they're they've been there ever since they moved
to la Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (16:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
So you go to an organization like that that not
to say they don't have money, but because they do,
and they they're going to eventually build a facility. But
you go there, it feels like you're in a middle
school classroom and it's all modules put together to kind
of configure this you know, facility. Right, there's no indoor
practice field. Everything's outdoors.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
In the weight room.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
The weight rooms is kind of indoor outdoor kind of
set up little thing. And then you go somewhere like Seattle.
It's on Lake Washington. They got all the all the
glitz and glamor. You go to Dallas, you go to
you know, the Star everything. It's like you're walking into
a hotel.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
It's like built specifically for the NFL team that's there,
as opposed to like the rams where they just kind
of had to find a place that worked, but it
already existing.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
Well, you'll see because when I was in LA with
the Chargers, they were in a like industrial complex and
you would never know it's there because it's kind of
hidden back there.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
It's it's two stories.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
It's it's just like you're in a normal office building
and you just have you just have three fields outside.
Next right next to Ikea is the and then you're
gonna go see their brand new bolt facility. Got it,
and it's gonna be the Kremla Krempley. It's gonna be
the best new facility in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
There would be an I'm not I don't remember if
it was the Cardinals or not, but I'll use the
Cardinals as example, Like the Cardinals got some really bad grades.
They would be like, and I will say I have
been lucky enough now that I've been kind of it's
I would not say toe but dipping my knee down
into the sports world for a few years now again
where I've gotten to know some college athletes that now

(18:24):
play in the pros and they will say to me,
at our university, it was so much better than it
is in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (18:30):
There's no question.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Clows my mind. Yeah, because that's not how we think
of it. We think everything moves up your NFL, you're
making money. That to me is crazy that the facilities
where they need to be better aren't always better. And
mostly is that because ownership is not wanting to spend
the money and invested in that part of the organization.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
Probably so, or it's all it's all about logistics, you know,
Like Indianapolis has had the same facility for thirty years.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
Now, eventually they would like to go somewhere else.

Speaker 5 (18:53):
But it's like, you know, they got to find the land,
they gotta find the permitting, they got to get the money,
they gotta whatever, you know. But you know, for LA,
for the Chargers, moving the San Diego is a big
deal and it just took them what five years to
find the land where they want to relocate, and they
it took them three years to build and now they're
going to go. But some teams, I guess, like Cincinnati, Yeah,
they they just finally they just finally got an indoor facility.

(19:15):
They were outside, Yeah, under the freeway.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
In the Midwest, under a freeway. Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I think has anything to do with recruiting, Like universities,
I'm saying, oh, well, one that's got to be the
main component why, that's.

Speaker 5 (19:28):
Why, that's why Jacksonville shot Con over there. One of
the best owners in the league has put so much
money into Jacksonville because for the longest time, they could
never recruit any of the top tier free agents. Obviously
there's a benefit of going there because of the no
state income tax thing.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
But when people would visit.

Speaker 5 (19:44):
There five ten years ago, they're like, why would I
ever want to come here when there's nothing here for me,
Like there's no the facilities stink, and shot CON's like,
we got to change that.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
So and I think, and I could be wrong. College
were you referring to college recruit?

Speaker 6 (19:57):
Yeah, I didn't even think.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
But the NFL recruit, and they have to do the
same thing. Agency, Oh big time. If it's even and
everything's even, like proximity, whatever's important to you because you
know and Madden, you know, I pick. You knows only
come to me because yeah, you're gonna pick if everything's even,
You're gonna pick the place that makes you most comfortable.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
Well, and then you you add the family grade. You
mentioned the family grade. One of the biggest things, too,
is is childcare at the games. There's a ton of
families have young kids. The hardest thing to do is
to go to a game with two or three of
your kids, mainly babies. It's like, I'm not gonna sit
in the stands, you know, with my child on my lap.
I would like to enjoy the game. Yeah, sometimes the
kids want to be there. But some teams offer childcare

(20:37):
d in the game, like Dallas did. But then some
teams don't. And I think that's where that grade comes in.
You know, you go to these other teams that offer
those kinds of things and really extend their arms out
to the family, like, hey, we got this, we got
the women's groups. You can uh, the wives and girlfriends
can come to we got all this, we had date
nights set up for them, we got all these things.
And then some teams just like kind of don't cater
towards that. And I think, you know, our wives play

(20:59):
a mass role and a lot of these decisions, especially
with big free agents. You know, if if their wife
and the kids don't feel comfortable going there, they're going
to go somewhere else that they do.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Is that part of the overall culture too That could
actually be negative for a team, meaning if the culture
is not good. The team usually isn't good. And a
lot of these places that have bad culture, it's because
it's the culture. A lot of the culture was built
poorly by the owners before it even gets to the coaches,
meaning if there aren't resources, sure, yeah, absolutely, they aren't

(21:29):
happy players. And then you get a coach and that
also maybe isn't a big culture that all that could compound,
and it just turns into an organization that doesn't win. Yeah,
I mean consistently and money talks.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
A free agent is going to go chase the money, right,
But sometimes those guys that go sound the big deals
you never hear of them again.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
You know, crazy. Let's do the Tittletown. I'm I kid
it for me, the tittle Tonne.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
After the NFL announced the no surprise on side kick rule,
do you think fans being angry is justified or overreaction.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
I think fans are gonna be angry about anything that's
ever announced in the history of announcements when it comes
to sports or changes. And Matt, I'll be curious to
hear your feedback on this. But the new rules are
on side kicks are illegal before the fourth quarter. Now,
this is not even the surprise part. This is a
new on side kick role. No on side kicks before
the fourth quarter, which, by the way, I went to
the Super Bowl in Miami whenever it was the same

(22:31):
breeze Breeze and the Colts they came out and freaking
on side kicked that thing immediately halftime game. Yeah, like,
I like that. It's not so much that I'm gonna
get irritated about it, but I like that on side
kicking at any time. But okay, I'm not. That doesn't
upset me. Teams have to be losing to kick an
on side kick. That's not gonna change anything. For the
most part. You don't have teams up thirteen trying to

(22:52):
kick an onside kick anyway to give them good field
position to get back in the game. Okay, not gonna
affect much. But they have to announce their intention. There
are examples of intention announcing. For example, like Matt was
talking about, you have to go check in if now
you can catch a pass in your alignment. I mean,
we saw in Detroit last year in the playoffs whenever
he's like, I freaking said, I'm checking in the game

(23:14):
and they had to call the playback. Remember that, Yeah,
I was against the Cowboys. Yes, big game, and so
there are very few surprise on side kicks where all
of a sudden the guys next to the kicker runs
up and does the little The NFL is doing a
lot of this stuff for safety reasons. I don't think
it affects the game. I think fans just want to
be mad. On side kicks suck anyway because they can

(23:39):
say fourteen percent of them work. I never see them
work when it matters. If it's an onside kick, it's
a game's over. And I practice them on Madden and
I still can't even get them to work on Madden.
So fans want to be angry, but none of them
will be affected by this. I've only in my life
a couple of times ever seen that Super Bowl. I
saw it and I was there, and that was awesome,
although I was rooting for the Colts. But no one

(24:02):
winning kicks an on side kick for the most part.
And then also, okay, announcing intentions is not a new thing.
When alignment is now eligible, he has to go and
be like, I can now catch the ball. I will
be the last person on the line. I'm cool with
that too. Most times people know when the on side
kick is coming. Those are my thoughts, Matt.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
I mean, I don't Yeah, you're you're right on the
success rate as far as on side kicks go, But
I mean there's there's you kind of eliminate, you know,
the game plan structure. I mean when I was with
the Colts, the rules have changed quite a lot on
kickoffs since. I mean, obviously we have a new kickoff
rule this year, which I think is very very good.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
I think it's going to be really really.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Good and exciting and like not just a waste play.

Speaker 5 (24:47):
Yeah, I think it's gonna be really really good. But
the element of surprise is gone, you know what I'm saying.
And there's teams that they come out in certain return formations.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
You know.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
McAfee is a perfect example. We had like three converted
on side kicks that year. We were three three for
three in those prize or yeah, absolutely, yeah, And that
was happened in the second quarter, right after we had
a big score.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Something would go out there.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
Obviously we're out there because we're kicking, but uh, you know,
based off of formation, he'd find some gaps in the
alignment and he would call it.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Could he call it himself? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (25:19):
If he saw, if he saw, I mean you see
you see the highlights. I mean he did a dribble
up the middle, there was nobody there. He got himself.

Speaker 6 (25:24):
Oh that one, ye, yeah, I have too.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Is it risky though, because if it doesn't work then
you just freaking called it. And now they have great
film like that's ballsy to call that right.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
Well, sure, but you put it on your kicker, you know,
and if you trust him, then let him make the call.

Speaker 6 (25:37):
How many times did he want to call it?

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Oh? Every time? It's like if I were a punter,
I'd want to throw it every time.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
How many kickers percentage wise or you know, actually have
the confidence from their coach to get on the line
and call, hey, we're going to do an onside here.
Do you think it's many?

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Well?

Speaker 5 (25:55):
So most of the kickoff guys are punters actually, so
a lot of the punters are doing the kickoffs now
to save the leg of the kicker. But I would say,
you know, Tucker's probably or or Buckner or I mean
some of the OG's in the league probably have.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
That authority for sure, but no more than five.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
No, I would say, yeah, you you uh, you give
Tucker he can go out there and do whatever he wants.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, he can do whatever. Yeah he picked up throwing
up in there and catching himself and do a little
dances of all time? Do you think do you think
Tucker Tucker v. Venitari greatest kicker of all time?

Speaker 5 (26:29):
I mean stats wise Tucker, but longevity clutch kicks.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, the clutch kicks does it for Venetaria.

Speaker 5 (26:37):
I mean Vinitary hands down, not even a question. I
mean you talk about all the massive iconic kicks in
New England, the Snow Game, Oh, the super Bowl winning kicks,
the big kicks in Indie.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
I mean he played twenty two years.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
I mean Tucker, he you know, Vinitary has the most
points scored record right now. I mean Tucker's gonna surpass that.
I mean, the dude's gonna play another ten years, you know,
and he's got a massive leg.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Both Hall of famers. By the way, there's no question,
no question the new kickoff rule where XFL was using it.
We've explained it a couple of times. But now like
the Chiefs, for example, are going, hey, I don't think
we're going to use a kicker for this, yep, because
we need a tackler but you need somebody who can
kick and can also play. What do you think is

(27:26):
happening with this? Do you think there's gonna be a
lot of experimentation that's not really going to be able
to happen until the games actually happen, because it's not
like something you run and practice like openly to get
real feel well.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
Sure, but you know Eric Reid has game experience already,
So there's a safecick. But other teams and they're gonna
they're gonna try to emulate what they're gonna do in
Kansas City for sure.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Do you think more teams will try to?

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Well, because the thing is you don't have you can't
kick the ball at the end zone no more. You
got to you gotta kick it like with within what
the goal line and tied you're online m hm.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
You know.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
So if you can get somebody that could just pop
it over there forty yard kick whatever it is, you know,
and and get some hangtime and then you could be
that extra guy that goes in there and makes a tackle.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
I mean, I think a lot.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
Of teams are gonna you don't want you, you don't
want your kicker going there and trying to make a
play because I think there's going to be a lot
of really good returns because of the new rule.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
It's going to be like an offensive play. It's like
a substitute offensive play because again, the lines are going
to be closer together. There's going to be almost a
definite return every time, and that kicker and the receiver.
Let's say everything's equal and those ten are blocking those ten. Well,
if it's the kicker on the receiver, you know who's

(28:34):
going to lose every time, the kicker. So you need
someone who can. But it's going to be really interesting
like the first six weeks, because there's not years and
years of film on this that you can look at
analytics and go, well, if we kick it here and
to this person and we run this, it's going to
be wild for the first few weeks. I cannot wait.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
I think it's the best rule change they've made in
a very long time.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
That and I think the pat I'm over it. It's easy.
I like they moved it because people do miss it
a little bit now, but it's like go for two
or you get the one.

Speaker 5 (29:05):
What's funny is that they eliminated the two at the
two yard line. The pat but still they paint that
stripe out there.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I never thought about that.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
So wait, they don't put the ball there when they
go for two?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Wait go for two? Oh? I guess you're right, but
I thought my mind was blown out when you go
for two? Can you can you select a hash or
you can do a hash?

Speaker 6 (29:23):
I think right?

Speaker 1 (29:25):
So the ball is not always spotted right there on
the old pat mark the line. Let's start that next up,
all right?

Speaker 3 (29:30):
With tired Hill being the only receiver to get a
ninety nine and Madden, do you think they got it right?

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Yeah? I also could have seen Justin Jeffson getting in
ninety nine. I looked at all the ratings yesterday, or
at least of the skill the wide receivers, because they
released these in bunches, and then they give the ninety
nine guys like they get a ninety nine guy like
trophy like plaque Madden deaths. It's really cool. And you
know I'm gonna say this, I've played Madden every year.
I love Madden. I'm so on n C double A

(29:58):
I have I have no interest. NC DOUBLEA is such
a better overall game, same makers, So that's cool for
EA Sports, and the gameplay is probably five percent. It's
very little less than what Madden's gameplay is. But the
elements surrounding it with nc DOUBLEA, the recruiting, which is

(30:19):
a big part of the game, the Bowl, the college
football playoff, the moving conferences to It's awesome. It's awesome.
Ncuba football is awesome. So I did watch this. I'm
not paying near as much attention as I usually would.
I think Tyreek ninety nine is deserved. He can fly.
He's definitely one A, B or C in the best

(30:39):
wide receivers Juste Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Tyreek Kill and I
think Devanta Adams would be there, but he can't get it.
Might have given the ball to prove it anymore. CD Lamb,
Doug respect See and CD Lamb got a ninety six.
But same thing with CD to a bit like Dak
and you played there, so you definitely win the argument.
I feel like one, they didn't have a they haven't

(31:00):
had a number two like Brandon Cooks. He's probably not
performed to the level they expected him to when they
got it from Houston. He can This year. I think
he'll have a real great opportunity to do so and ceedee,
Lamb is great, but I feel like he doesn't get
the ball enough to actually show how great he is
because they're always bracketing him. He's bracketed constantly. Yeah, and

(31:21):
so it's hard to get a ninety nine when you
can't really prove you're a ninety nine. But guy, dang
he does. He's awesome, which is why he wants to
be the highest paid player, not a quarterback, in history.
But so does Michael Parsons. And they're both wanting that
same money. And the Cowboys are gonna have three players
if that happens.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
They gotta figure it out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
So to answer your question, Justin Jefferson was a ninety eight.
Bump them up one home, give them the trophy. You
have a shortage of trophies. You don't give him a
ninety nine trophy. I mean, did you watch Netflix's Receiver.
Got kind of bored. I got kind of bored with
the quarterbacks.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
No, I think it's better than the quarterbacks stays. Justin
Jefferson sat up for like six games and still got
over at the was in yards receiving.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, I think Amon Ross Saint Brown, the fact that
he because he's in ninety five he had like, of
course that step ribs into his lung.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
Yeah, they talk about that.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yeah, And so the fact that he still was able
to play that well, Like, I don't think he's a
ninety nine. Don't get me wrong, he does. He hasn't
deserved it. Ninety nine is you need to do it?
But I would have said you could have given it
to Tyreek and Justin Jefferson. Think about Jamar Chase, he
was only ninety three, Like are they doing that? Yes,
but they didn't have their boy yesterday last year to

(32:31):
get engagement. Come on ninety three though.

Speaker 6 (32:33):
They had just done during the season, don't.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Yeah, but you don't get the trophy. You're missing the
point everyone wants to try. They do bring you the
trophy later if you if it's you get if you
get hit ninety nine official, it's week four, they bring
you the trophy. You get a briefcase, right, and it's
like a yeah, and it's got like a Madden ninety
nine rating. I think though, I would have been cool
with any of those three having it. Tyreek deserves it,
although he's getting older and he's getting a lot of

(32:55):
people pregnant allegedly. Yeah, a lot of different a lot
of people, But yeah, I'm good with it. The nineties
and I think still I think Devont d. Adams is
so freaking good and so strong. He just has nobody
to get him. The ball still doesn't Yeah, still doesn't.
Gardner Minshew, although he's a dog. Yes, I was gonna

(33:19):
say they didn't bring Gardner. Got fortunate that he got
was able to play a bunch last year. It is
unfortunate for Franthony Richardson obviously, but Gardner had a really
good year Pro Bowl right in the Indian up making
the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
I mean, I don't know if he was slated as
a Pro Bowl. He was an addition to the skills.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Game in the but I think he in the end
was one of the He was considered a Pro bowler. Yeah,
I think back when people backed out, I got it
doesn't matter in ten years, No he doesn't. He's a
pro bowler.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
No, no, No one could take you away that away
from you, buddy.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
And I think that makes him if you were to
tear him out, I would put him above a Daniel Jones.
Oh like Malite Neighbors is going to be really good
as a rookie with the Giants. I think he would
be freaking awesome if he had somebody that could get
on the ball consistently. But I think that's Devontay Adams.
The problem I think in his window is closing was

(34:09):
he got two three more years of being dominant getting
back up to New York. Aaron Rodgers, I don't play
together again.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
You could tell he wants to do it in that
Netflix documentary. He wants to do it for like the Raiders,
or like you could tell he was a fan obviously
growing up. I believe yes, And you could just tell
it's just like, dude, it's okay to just let go.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Like you had. You had the minute there that was
really cool. Yeah, you got to go play with the Raiders,
your team.

Speaker 6 (34:32):
You're a good person.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
But he also wanted to go play with car right.
Wasn't that a big part of it too, as his
boy from prison. Yeah, that was part of the reason
that he also wanted to go to the Raiders. But
god dang, I would hate to play for the Raiders.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Yeah, I wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Nobody cares. The fan base is all people from out
of town and then like a little section.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
Yeah, but there it's a strong fan base man. It's hostile,
kind of like coming over to your house yesterday playing
pick a ball.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
I walked to the hostile territory.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Rought it up again.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Well, he was like yelling at his fans, and I
was like, dude, there's literally no around us and I'm
getting beat, So stopping you little, I have him stop
thinking about it. I was so pissed. We played a
good game five and it went to double and I've choked.
I choked at the end, and I don't choke. Sometimes
I will be beat because I was not up to
the moment. I was not prepared. I do not have
the skills. I choked yesterday, and I hate that about

(35:20):
me because I'm not a choke.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
That's the way I played it. I made you make
the mistakes.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
He did well you Bill belichicked him.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yeah. Well he comes out too, and he's playing and
he's like next he plays mascot. He's a professional apthet
and he's good. Yeah, and I'm just not ready for
somebody good. So he just puts it on me Game one,
like puts his foot on my neck. Was not prepared.
He showed up with Oh here's a trip, Oh here
we go. He showed up without a paddle, and I'm like, oh,
this guy, he sucks to him have his own paddle.

(35:45):
He doesn't bring it. But when someone shows up. If
it's like somebody shows up, I'm playing basketball and you're
wearing bowling shoes, You're like, this guy he ain't playing.
No boy showed him bowling shoes. Yeah, and then he
takes his bowling shoes off and his last name is
James l On James. You're like, oh, I guess that's
who he was, freaking lebron a pickle wall.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
I also used the broken paddle too.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
I think he broke it though it was defective. I
think years he swung and missed a couple of times
and he's like I did a couple of times, but
he beat me. And I can't stop thinking about it.
And he was like doing the crowd thing and there's
no crowd, and I was like, stop, you pissed me off.
That what was funny about both of us though, And
I noticed this about Matt, and Matt is a very skilled,
trained professional athlete, and I am skilled and trained at

(36:28):
not being a professional athlete. But we both constantly talk
to ourselves as we play oh yeah.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
Out loud or like to yourself or middle.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Mid out loud. I mean I could hear him like
saying like okay, and me, I'm constantly reminding myself of Okay,
if you're tired, do your feet did it? And I
could hear him doing it. And I don't feel so
crazy because I do that. I do that constantly. Why
do you do that?

Speaker 5 (36:53):
I had some three Ninjas quote yesterday. He did concentration
on strength and we're both like talking to ourselves in corner.
Is like competing, like.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Okay, I know you're tired, but you need to you
need to move, make sure your feet are moving. Don't
don't Because he would he was I think my cardio
is a little better than his. I think he's a
better athlete than me. Hope not offended by that, No, brother,
I was exhausted and he would like bend down and
like rest in between points, and like a boxer, I
would just stand up. I would stand up. I wasn't

(37:23):
an inside. I was tired, but I was like, I'm
standing up back like nothing's boding. I was dead on
the inside too, like a boxer. They won't sit down, yeah,
and the other guy's like sitting down he's all hurt,
even though the guys standing up hurt too, but he's like,
I'm gonna stand up. Showman. Ain't effect him.

Speaker 6 (37:36):
That did that get to you at all? Met Like
did you look at him over like.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
I usually would turn him back to him and bend down.
Nothing affects him. Don't worry, I got we got another
match coming up. All right, go ahead?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Speaking of receivers, still, who do you think will have
the best year on a new team.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
I'm interested to see what Diggs does with the Texans.
I think that's fun. I think C J. Stroud is awesome.
And I say that so reluctantly because I just it
was hard for me to watch a rookie continue to
just crush it because I'm like, eventually the rookies syndrome
is gonna catch up, going to catch up. Rookie coach,
rookie quarterback. Diggs has a history of being from what

(38:12):
I know and from what I've seen on television, problematic.
Don't know him, only see what he did with Josh Allen.
Only see some of the stuff in Minnesota, so I'll
be anxious to see what he does there. But he's
freaking awesome as a wide receiver. That to me is
interesting to see the Bears and you know, I guess
say Keenan Allen and DJ Moore just got paid. By

(38:33):
the way, Yeah, a lot Keenan Allen with the Bears,
but more so with the Bears. That's like with Romba
Doonsday with Keenan Allen, with DJ Moore with Cole Comet
with that is not so much about him. It's just
about how that dynamic is going to work with possibly
the best built team for a rookie that I've ever seen,
with Kayleb Williams coming in and by the way, this

(38:54):
will come out on Friday, so tonight actually, which will
be last night if you're listening the Hall of Fame game.
And I believe and he may, but I don't think
Caleb Williams was playing, right they said he's not playing.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
So Keenan Allen's interesting because I think he was really good.
It was underutilized when he was over in California because
they he was hurt a lot, or Justin Herbert didn't
have all his ribs, you know, there were Justin Herbert
was hurt a lot. Jerry Judy is interesting and that
he's only interesting if the Deshaun Watson get to the
ball the Browns he never to me never really was

(39:27):
able to thrive as a Bronco. But then who was
able to get him the ball to give him a
bunch of opportunities like who is his best quarterback? Right Wilson? Probably? Yeah?
And he had Russell had what two years? One was terrible,
one was pretty good only because of and he whenever

(39:48):
Sean went on with and had the coach.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
And I think him and Sean Payton but had a lot.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Calvin Ridley I would like to see do well with
the Titans because we're here. It would be nice see
the Titans win. You know, I'm gonna encourage him to
off DraftKings.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
Probably a good idea.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
And ready let's stay off the gambling apps. Probably good idea.

Speaker 6 (40:05):
Now, Will Levis, so, I mean, can you get him
the ball?

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I've seen him in person at Vanderbilt. They look nice?
Probably not? You know why I think probably not? Because
they just haven't. And after a long time, when someone hasn't,
even if it's not fair.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
You just go, I bet it ain't gonna work until
it does, and then I doubt it, but then it
doesn't and you're like, I have.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
No faith in will Levis, not because anything Levis related.
I watched him in Kentucky, and in Kentucky is pretty good,
and he's got a cannon for an arm And it's
not even about Will Levis unfairly, I've just seen it.
Look at Mariota's coming in. He's gonna be awesome. Tannehill
had a really good early start change coordinators. Then it
didn't go so well. They changed it off for them,

(40:44):
scheme a little bit. I would like to see Calvin
Redley do well. The other receiver probably Mike Williams in
the New York with Aaron Rodgers. That's a good one.
That might be the dark horse. That's what he's talking about.
I was not even gonna mention that one.

Speaker 4 (40:59):
I was trying to think of.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
I'll say, well, the Chiefs, right, So the Chiefs other
than Xavior, who's a rookie, Marky's Brown's there, but I
mean they have I don't know what they're going to do.
And the Chiefs are the worst team to have wide
receivers on your fantasy team because you could have Marquess Scantling,
Valdez Scantle, Neil Thirds that every and every player has
a hash mark in their name for the Chiefs basically,

(41:22):
so I'd probably go Digs. I'm most interested in just
to see because I mentioned in the Texans, to see
if they can continue, because a rookie coach and a
rookie quarterback. And to win a playoff game, not just
to make the playoffs, to win.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
A playoff game, that's wild, that's crazy, and that's I
didn't think about it.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
That Aaron Rodgers, if he's good. And Mike Williams, Mike
Williams is a freaking baller baller. Is he too old though?

Speaker 4 (41:53):
Now?

Speaker 5 (41:54):
No, he just got to stay healthy. I mean, look
at all the receivers they have in New York. I mean,
you have Wilson. I don't even know who else they have,
but they have a lot of options. So if Mike,
if Mike Williams can say healthy, he's that big body
in the red zone. He's a deep threat. He can
go up and catch a ball over any any dB.
I mean in La, him and Keenan Allen ballers.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Ballers and and one of them seemed to always be hurt.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Yeah, unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Yeah. The cool thing about Garrett Wilson's we have no
idea how good he is in the NFL because he
hasn't had anybody to get in the ball.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Yeah, did you see the video of him and Rogers
going out a little bit?

Speaker 1 (42:27):
I was gonna say, like, Rogers, like you out and
he's like no, and then they go at it and
then at the end I think they're pretty cool. They
were cool with it, and Rogers you could tell He's like,
I'm the boss And what was cool? Was it? Wessell's
like no, no, no, I'm going to stand my ground
and then you know they fived it, maybe just because
there were cameras on them, but how often does that?

(42:50):
What are the rules on fighting with a teammate because
it was not going to be a fight, but a disagreement.
Will you cover your mouth look away at times if
you're mouthing while the game is happening so people can't see,
Like how do you navigate that? Because at times things
need to be said on the field that aren't fun
to have to say, but you publicly don't want to

(43:12):
have people see it.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
I think the public perception like screw it if you're
if you are the franchise quarterback, but.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Let's say no quarterback because I agree because I've seen Pyton,
even jeff Saturday and clips. Right, sure it does.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
If you are a leader on a team, whether you're
a d lineman like Jeffrey Simmons, anybody that's you know,
just a bona fide pillar of that team you have.
I mean, if there's no accountability and the leader doesn't
show that, that's when the culture and the team stinks.
So I love it when guys step up and they
get mouthy on the sideline or in the locker room

(43:45):
at halftime.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
You have to have that.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
It's all lot. Don't mind that, But I mean, like publicly,
it's gonna be such a big story. Yeah, but who cares.
It's it's sports. We're all competing here.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
That's like I think, if you just eliminate, who cares
what the media says or what the clip is gonna say,
the viral meme whatever.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Like if you're big time players.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
Allow things to go on swept under the rug, whether
it's a drop pass or a route that's not ran
the right way, or a miscommunication on defense, Like I mean, dude,
you have to have those tough conversations and call each
other out. I mean, that's that's then that's how you
get better.

Speaker 1 (44:16):
I'd scream it. You know how pictures put the glove
over their mouth and then yell like it. They don't
want the empire or the fans or the other team
to see what they're saying. Not so much of hiding,
but if they're pissed, they don't want to be taken
out of the game. And you can see their head
bop it up and down, but you can't see their mouth.
What I would do if I were playing, let's say
our wide receiver and I pissed it, you know, a

(44:36):
slot guy from missing a block. If I'm whatever, I'd
get a baseball glove on the football field and put
out of my mouth and didn't do that.

Speaker 6 (44:42):
It's a good idea, somebody to just carry one around
my mouth.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
And then you want to know that's how all right?
One more question less?

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Well in here some high expectations on the Bears. Do
you think the NFC or AFC North is the better division?

Speaker 1 (44:56):
I want to stop saying, and I'm just going to
say it before I do this. I annoyed when people go, well,
if this person stays healthy, that's for every player ever,
that's a quarterback or one of the ballers for any team,
like if you're the number one or two offensive out
team or defensive guy, that's always the case. So when
Joe Burrow is talked about it, if he stays healthy,

(45:17):
he hasn't hurt a bunch. But until last year, Lamar Jackson,
if he stays healthy, Saquon didn't ge hurt all last year.
If he said, I want to eliminate, just so everybody knows,
I'm eliminating if he stays healthy. I'm assuming everything is even,
because every quarterback can get hurt, or no quarterbacks can
get hurt, or random quarterbacks could get hurt. So I'm
eliminating if he stays healthy, mostly like Burrow gets hurt

(45:41):
a bunch, Lamar until last year, all that so AFC
North loaded Vikings are interesting. I think Sam Donald was
going to have a good year. I think Sam Donald
is an extremely serviceable quarterback who has very who has
shown very little touch, cannon of an arm, pretty smart
guy and has weapon justin Jefferson Addison like he has.

(46:06):
And think about what he had with the Jets, think
about what he was the Panthers like, It's not like
he was in a system because the best quarterbacks draft
to go to the worst teams. It's not like he
fell into a place where they were all these weapons
and they're not asking him to do anything except show up,
play pretty good, get JJ McCarthy hopefully next year a

(46:27):
nice little spot. I think the best thing to do
would be McCarthy just said the bench all year. Because
Sam Donald's playing pretty well, I think the Vikings can
be a nine, nine and eight. I think they can
do that nine and eight if Sam Donald plays decent.
The Packers. Jordan Love balled out of his brains the
second half of last year. Just got a deal, Matt.

(46:47):
My question for you about a deal. If a player
gets a big deal, can it go both ways? Or
which way does it normally go? Do they feel more
comfortable and free since they've just got a big deal
for four or five years, or do some players go
like I just got paid, like I'm not and as
much time getting ready for crap.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
Well, you know, regarding Jordan Love, I think you know
he's earned the position. He sat behind, you know, Aaron
Rodgers for a couple of years. I think he went
through a strenuous I mean, he being drafted in the
first round to go behind Aaron.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Rodgers drama and the drama with a lot of.

Speaker 5 (47:21):
Drama with that, he went through that. He's so he
essentially he's been through the fire. He's when you go
to the Packers, you're expected to win. It's different if
you're going to Carolina where they don't expect to win.
So when you're drafted in an organization where you expect
to win, there's always that pressure. So he's already been
through the pressure of everything. He's earned that contract. I
think he's just going to keep getting better. There's no

(47:41):
question about it.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
If you and I don't.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
I don't see him as the prima donna guy who's
now going to get comfortable and not care.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
And does that happen with some what for sure? Don't
we don't see that. We are still in our mast
Somebody makes a bunch of money.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
NFL, they go get the bag every day.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
They want to prove why because.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
Let me tell you this, a lot of guys in
any professional sports, there's a group of guys in that
locker room that love to play the game for the
passion and desire to be a champion. And then you
got another and probably a smaller group of guys who
they don't love football. They're just doing it to get
a paycheck. And when they get that bag, they're good.

(48:19):
They don't care if they get cut, they don't care
if they don't play.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
But isn't there so much like money not guaranteed in
the NFL and football in general?

Speaker 6 (48:27):
It's not like basketball football.

Speaker 5 (48:28):
Yeah, the signing bonus, right is the is the big deal,
and there's some front loaded money. A lot of guys
try to structure those contracts and agents structure those compacts
where it's front loaded, and most of those guys never
play out that full contract.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
You know, everyone's, oh my gosh, two hundred million dollar.
But I mean it's not basketball baseball.

Speaker 5 (48:45):
Yeah, some of those guys never play that whole thing out,
and some of that's backloaded money, you know.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
So Vikings, I think they can be nine and eight packers.
I think they can win eleven games. It's weird too
with seventeen games. Let's just get eighteen because all off,
let's give him two bye weeks, he give him three.
I don't give a crap. I need it to be
even number of games. Give him four by week. I
don't care the off number. I think the Packers can
win eleven games. The Lions could win the freaking Super Bowl.

(49:17):
The Bears, we're just doing NFC North here. The Bears.
I don't know, but there's never been a like ibra Flus.
He has to win, even it's a rookie quarterback. Yeah,
and with other coaches, Oh, rookie quarterback, we'll give him
some spirit. But this team is set up right now.
And I was surprised ibra Flues lasted from last year
to this year. And he's a defensive coach, right, is it?

(49:39):
Abra Flus defensive?

Speaker 4 (49:40):
And they have a good defense.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
But defensive coaches with star quarterbacks rarely make that perfect
combination that like Andy Reid and Pat Mahomes, like Reid
has been there to kind of walk my homes through
all of it. Belichick though, defensive guy, right, yeah, I
mean that's one with that you can kick me in
the nuts on. But most of these these guys, like

(50:02):
the Shanahans, like these offensive coaches, when they get a
star offensive quarterback and it's such an offensive league, like
those relationships develop into better quarterbacks. I don't know what
the Bears are gonna do, but I like the Bears
that whole division could have a winning record, yeah, which
would be different than like the NFC South and the
FC South combine, which already No.

Speaker 5 (50:21):
I I'm gonna say the AFC South is gonna be
the toughest division in the league.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
AFC set in the AFC. Okay, look, I think I think.
I think the Titans are going to be competitive more
than the Bengals, the Steelers, the Ravens, and the Browns,
which all again could have winning records.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
I think the AFC South is right there too. I
really do.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
I love Trevor Lawrence. I don't know if you love
Trevor Lawrence. I love Trevor Lawrence, don't know him, never
met him. I love Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
I'm biased.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
I mean, I played for three of those Titans, but no,
I really do they all have franchise quarterbacks. Anthony Richardson
I think is a game changer. I think he's gonna
he's gonna really developing.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Limited limited sample size here though, right, but what he
showed loves to run, what he showed us what was awesome.
I loved watching him play. But he lowers his head
into people. You can't do that. Josh Allen was that
was the big thing with Josh Allen, like, yeah, you
can run everybody over, but eventually youre gonna run over
so many people that you're gonna take them.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
Well. Sure, and I think he learned from that really quick.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
But what about Anthony Richardson. He's a baller.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
The ceiling is very high for that.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
I agree, cann't agree more. Anthony Richard one hundred and
fifty pounds.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
I know, have you seen him in person?

Speaker 4 (51:29):
I have.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
I saw him on a gas linebacker.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
He's bigger than Will Levis, for sure. Levis.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
So I was watching Trevor. Let me answer your question
here AFC North Bengals Steelers. The Steelers are gonna have
a terrible season one. Mike Tomlin doesn't lose Doug I
hear you. Their schedule is terrible and they don't really
have a quarterback. I think Justin Filton's up being the
starter a week five.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
Or week six.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Put some respect on Russell Wilson's name. I would have
four years ago, I would have Denver. Yeah, and just
pre all the weirdness. And then some of my friends
are like, yeah, not on Mike, Yeah, you know, here's
thinking about ruh. And I'm like I don't think that
would be kind of the guy I'd like to like

(52:13):
whatever I will say, I think the Steelers, of all
those teams are the worst. I think the Browns they
are like the Bears to me, not a rookie quarterback situation.
But are they ever? They spend all this money, they
guarantee all this money to Deshaun Watson. It's been like
eleven years since that happened. Is he even? Is he

(52:34):
like fifty now?

Speaker 4 (52:35):
Like?

Speaker 1 (52:36):
Is he any good? He hasn't been good in years now.
He's been hurt, he's been suspended. Last year he got
to be okay to serviceable near the end of the year.
You have Mari Cooper, who's a that's one of those
guys that's awesome they but we don't even really know
because he doesn't get the ball enough to be able
to showcase what he can do. I'm gonna go NFC

(52:56):
North only because I can find two week teams in
the AFC North. But I think the Bengals and the
Ravens are super Bowl teams and the AFC South great.
I love talking about the AFC South. I think the
Titans are going to be a little better than they
think I don't think they're much over a five hundred
team though, do you if they get to five hundred.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
Yeah, I'm just saying I think that division is going
to be again like it happened last year where it
came down the week eighteen.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Are you're saying competitive not within that within? No, I
think they're super I mean, look at the Colts.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
The Colts.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
The Colts had Garner Minshew come in for the entire season. Essentially,
they beat the Ravens on the road and they all
they lost, missed out in the playoffs by one game
to the Texans, which were on the roll at the time.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (53:39):
And I think the Titans have bolstered that roster a
little bit. They're trying to change the culture. We don't
know what that culture is going to be.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
New coach from Yeah, Sincinaty comes to GM or second
year GM wants to have an offense.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
Yeah, And it's a make or break here for Will.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Levis and Jeffrey Simmons is still here.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
Yeap.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
He's angry at the media. Yeah, you know what, and
that's kind of how I want him to be.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
Yeah, I thought it was funny you ever see a
massive man and you just feel tiny.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
That's a guy that you'd never want to stand by.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
He's that big he is.

Speaker 5 (54:10):
And then they showed I don't. There's a picture that
just came out recently. He's standing next to the they
drafted another.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
D lineman out of maybe Texas.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
Yeah, and that guy is towering over Jeffrey Simmons, and
Jeffrey Simmons is a massive human being. So I'm interested
to see how that kid pans out.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
It's like, go beart whenever he stands next to uh
uh spur Wenby Wenby. Yeah, you're like, go beart huge
seven to two? Holy god, Okay, I think I feel
good about those questions that Derek Kevin.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
That's all all right.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
That's see what I like because I'll just say a
bunch of crap and have crazy opinions and have no
idea really how right I am. And then I'm like,
oh god, it's not gonna tell me I'm stupid. I
like that thought. I like that. I like the checks
and balance.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
All right, that's it, close it up. Okay, God, we
will take a quick break and we will come back
right after this. Okay, A couple other things. Patrick Mahomes

(55:16):
is the eleventh highest paid quarterback, and I think, why
this is beautiful and they're like, can you believe it?
He's so underpaid. I don't think he's underpaid for what
he wants to be paid. I think he wants to win,
and I think there's a difference in wanting to get
paid for financial security, which he already has. By the way,
he can get paid a dollar a season for now

(55:36):
one and have financial security because second greatest quarterback of
all time, probably very close to that being for sure,
not quite there yet, definitely the ceiling of being the
greatest of all time if he can win seven eight
super Bowls. Super marketable, super nice guy. But he wants
to have money for other players on the team, and

(55:57):
I think he values that, So I don't think he's
under paid for what his objective is is to be
the greatest of all time, I win super Bowls. So
when people are like, can you believe it, Patrick Mahomes is,
two things have happened, though. One every time the quarterback market,
it goes up every time, every time there's a new year,
every time. So that's why Jordan Love, That's why too

(56:17):
that's why whom are figeting from this year. There's one
other quarterback cousin well, cousins to get Yeah, but Dad's
coming up, Trevor Launch. That's why they people like, can
you believe two is making well? Yes, because they've decided
that's their guy, and that's what the market is doing
right now. It's always new highs. Patrick Mahomes eleventh on
the list. Matt Overton underpaid.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
Yeah wildly, yes, no, but I mean for what we
do get, we get paid really well. But there is
every position every single year the market will take them up.
The specialist position. The kickers have now emerged as making
some more money, and rightfully so. Like Justin Tucker, I
remember there was rumors where he was going to demand
like eight million a year. Five years ago. You'd be like,

(57:01):
you're crazy, you know. I think the highest paid for
long'st time was like four or five million for a kicker,
for a franchise kicker.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Now that's starting to elevate. We're starting to.

Speaker 5 (57:10):
See punters kind of creep up there, three to four
million a year, maybe on the high end, twenty bucks
a game, you know what I'm saying. But the snapper
position has never changed. It's always like league minimum.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Really Yeah, and there's only a few of you guys
what's crazy.

Speaker 5 (57:22):
Yeah, And I'm I'm not saying that we deserve to
get that high a million a year. He's not coming back,
you know what I'm saying. But yeah, every position, every
single year. Yeah, Dak's gonna get that. He's gonna be
the next highest paid quarterback. He's gonna change every single year.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
So I guess my point with he's not he is
not underpaid is that if he wanted more, he could
get more. But what he wants is more money for
the team. He's not asking for money based on how
good he is as a quarterback, because he could. He
could go and renegotiate his contract every year. He has
that power. Yeah, but he doesn't because it's like Brady
taking a pay cut to put better players around him,

(57:56):
which he did later in his career. People are like
Brady's underpay. No, he chose to be paid that. So
he's not really being underpaid because that's what he wanted
it to be. Underpaid per a skill level versus the others. Yes,
underpaid as a general, No, because he wants to not
make as much money. So there's more money to go
around because of the cap, and whenever you'll watch or

(58:18):
you'll hear guys on the internet be like you got
to pay him more than any other quarterback. That would
be a nightmare for him. He doesn't want that because
then he can't pay for other players to exist on
his team. So but that's also why it's gonna win
Super Bowls.

Speaker 6 (58:29):
And imagine him doing that every year because he could,
like you.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Said, he's one of the few, can be like, you
know what, do it again? I want to always be
the highest paid quarterback. There are coaches in their contracts
when they sign the contract, they must be the highest
paid coach per like three years in a row. So
let's say let's say I go and I coach lacrosse
for Arkansas, and my contract, I want to be the
highest paid lacrosse coach in the country, but for three

(58:54):
years in a row. If anybody jumps up and that's announced,
I'm one dollar more. Like those contracts, a contract can
say whatever you want it to say if you have
the leverage to make it say it underpaid for his
skills and for what he's done, Yes, but underpaid because
of he wants to be paid more. No, because he's
chosen to be paid that so we can have other players.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
Yeah, but let's look back when he signed his deal
what four years ago? Yeah? Was it four hundred million total?
What was front loaded?

Speaker 5 (59:21):
Because when you take in that consideration, what they guaranteed
him maybe still more than what they're guaranteeing Tua and
guaranteeing Jordan Love for sure.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
It's like Daniel Jones when he got the big deal
four years it was like, well, that's not quite what
this contract is. Like you had mentioned earlier, like these
contracts and agents want to put out the best. Oh. Sure,
they wanted to be seen that their player got a
massive deal, and it's rarely what they're actually probably going
to get. Sure, incentives are sometimes added into this is

(59:51):
what they're making, even though the incentives could or couldn't
be reached. The next one is DJ Moore. We mentioned
that he got a four year, one hundred and ten
million dollar extension. What's been crazy to me? I like it,
but I mean wide receivers are I mean that's the money.
Take quarterbacks out, like that's the money position now, pass rusher, yeah,
edges and wide receivers yep, and you know what's been
devalued obviously running backs. I think we're going to see

(01:00:13):
a shift in that again though, because running backs are
now acquiring more skills to be able to, you know,
be a bit of that slot. H Christian McCaffrey even
say Kuwana bit DeAndre Swift, those guys, like, I think
that's now becoming more of a norm where it wasn't.
And like linebackers and safeties, like, they're not valued at

(01:00:33):
in the hierarchy of who we're going to pay like
they used to.

Speaker 5 (01:00:35):
Like you said, it's an offensive driven league, so you're
going to pay the offensive players more. But then what
puts more the most pressure on an offense is a
pass rusher. That's why they're getting paid top dollar.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
Here's the list of quarterbacks and how they're paid. Joe
Burrow fifty five million. I think we can all agree
with that. Joe Burrow's Joe Burrow is the only guy
to go straight up. But Pat mahomeso take him to Yeah,
Tom Brady is the greatest of all time. Yeah yeah,
didn't get the job done though, who did not the
mangles Burrow? Oh yeah, I agree, And he's also like
this fingernail hurts tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
Lost to Old Stafford.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
He's got Yeah, he's got a nose hair that's injured today.
I like Joe Burrow. I think Joe Burrows.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
I think it's it's hard not to like him.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Yeah, even though he's like super co I like his
cockiness more than just I like him being cocky, Like
he's got like a soft cockiness where it's funny, but
you also know he means it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
And he probably makes fun of himself quite a bit.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Yeah, and he probably doesn't take himself so seriously with
some of the really arrogant feeling things he does because
a little bit of done in jest. Well, I heard
the haircut is before.

Speaker 5 (01:01:40):
It was for a cancer patient that just came out
too really, so he shaved his head, dyed it because
he a fan going through chemo had reached out to
him and he agreed to shave his head.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
The dying it's funny though. No, I like to dye
and much. I could do that. Yeah, Yeah, I'm jealous.
He's a fifty five. Trevor Lawrence fifty five and Jordan
loves a fifty five. You know it was Trevor Lawrence
Andrew luck Peyton Manning, Caleb Williams. Like, there's like in
our lifetime four or five guys that have been so

(01:02:13):
highly touted all the way through. I like Trevor Lawrence.
I know you played with him. I don't know anything
about him personally, but I like Trevor Lawrence and I
feel bad for him because he's Doug Peterson. He's finally
got somebody consistent. Thank God, think about urban Meyer. Everybody,
did you play Forevan? I didn't, but I've heard the
night my stories. Yeah, NonStop nightmares. Imagine you're a rookie

(01:02:37):
and it's a nightmare situation. Culture's bad coaching, Like, of
course they lost and he sucked. I think I like
Trevor Lawrence. How do you feel about Trevor Lawrence as
a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
I think he's great.

Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
I mean, he had some injuries last year, played through
some injuries again. I think the Jacksonville Jaguars are kind
of that wild card in the division.

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
We expect them to be really good.

Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
They're putting the pieces to the post together to make
him really really competitive, putting a lot of money into
the facility, new stadiums coming.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
Jacksonville.

Speaker 5 (01:03:05):
Duval County is like thirsty for a Super Bowl champion,
and I think the culture there is set because the
longevity you look around the league, Pete Carroll, Mike Tomlin, Belichick,
the teams that win stick together around the longest, the
continuity from management, coaching and core players. I mean, when
you have the carousel around where there's new people coming

(01:03:27):
in every single year, new head coach, new oc, DC,
all that kind of stuff, I mean, you just don't
have longevity for success. And I think the Jacksonville Jaguars
are trying to set themselves up for that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
And it starts with Trevor Lawrence.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
I wonder if Dak was going to try to be
the first sixty million dollars quarterback he could. There's not
one yet, But again with Dak and CD and Michaeh. Parsons,
they're gonna have.

Speaker 6 (01:03:50):
To, like one's got to go right well or they're gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Have to ruberscue that thing together somehow.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
And I could see Michael Parsons walking.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Jordan Love two as a fifty three million just got paid,
Jared Goff fifty three million. Jared Goff's been really great
in Detroit. Yeah, justin Herbert Lamar, Jackson, Jalen Hurts Kyler Murray,
Deshaun Watson. Those are your top ten there, All right, Michael,
We're right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
I think we're good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
We are good. Okay, cool, I'm about to wrap this up.
Two things. One, I've been watching a bit of the Olympics,
and I haven't watched any of the women's USA basketball team,
and I am and I have been watching. I got
the WNBA package because I wanted to watch Kaitlyn Clark.
And now that they're admitting, yeah, maybe we should have
put her on the team. You had no crap for

(01:04:34):
two reasons. One because second half of the first half
of the season she was a top ten player. Obviously,
it was rough to start, even though she was scoring
and assisting, but she came right off of her season
with IOWA, right into camp and then had a terrible schedule.
They were doing back to backs. Man, she started playing

(01:04:55):
one game every three or four days. She was killing.
So they should have put her on the team because
nobody cares. First of all, that wnbaight, the USA team
got beat by the WNBA team. That didn't make hilarious.
So what's gonna happen is they're gonna win the goal.
They win the gold every year and it's still like, yeah,
well you didn't be Katel Clark and Angelies and the
people that did not make the Olympic team hilarious. So

(01:05:17):
this is how much people don't care about the US
women's Olympic basketball team. Here are the games. Spain versus
China twenty seven thousand, people show up, Serbia versus Puerto
Rico fifteen thousand, Nigeria, Australia twenty four thousand, Germany, Belgium
twenty thousand, France, Canada twenty thousand, this is all women's USA,
Japan thirteen thousand. Jeez, the most famous women basketball player

(01:05:44):
in the world. Like, I think Asia is awesome and
she is the MVP, and she has the best player
in the NBA, and she's killing in the Olympic. She's
double double on every game, but nobody cares. If Kayla
Clark was on the team, if Angel Reach was on
the team, there'd be thirty thousand people in the place.
It was as they would say, they could not have
fumbled that bag harder, harder one, because they deserve to

(01:06:07):
be there those two. And secondly, when it's not Caitlin
Clark and a bit of Angel Reese, nobody cares. I
didn't care.

Speaker 6 (01:06:16):
I watched like two minutes of it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Yeah, nobody cares. And I care about America and I
love America and I want us to win everything. But
I'll just check a highlight. Yeah, I don't watch every fencing.
I'll just check a highlight to see if we want
a medal, that's what. And they're not that likable. Uh,
you know who's likable on the team. I liked Asia
and I like she plays for Seattle, shoots off the threes.
Super no, super Bird doesn't play anymore? Oh really?

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
You like Jackie Young though, she's fine, she's really good.
Diana Tarassi, she's mid mid midlight. I'm talking about people
that I like. She's all three. She's shot against Stephan.

Speaker 6 (01:06:48):
The three punk.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Yes, yes, yes, I like her too. So those are
the two. But nobody cares so WNBA the fact they
beat them, They should just give the gold medals to them.
You know what they should have done. They said, you know,
to the Olympic team, this is now the Olympic team,
the team that beat you. You guys, go ahead, Yeah
you got beat by these WNBA players that couldn't make
the Olympic team. They are now the Olympic team.

Speaker 6 (01:07:08):
That would be fun though.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
I'd watch that like, whoever wins this game as is
our team for the USA, let's go.

Speaker 6 (01:07:14):
Yeah, that would be cool.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Okay, So there's that, and then the final thing is
NFL is going to test the Hawkeye technology and some
preseason games. So this is from ESPN. The preseason is
about to happen with the Hall of Fame game happening,
and so you know, it is weird. You got a
few sixty two year old dudes with chains still running around,

(01:07:36):
it is, and sometimes they get hurt in the games
and they get run over on the side that obvious.
Feel bad for him, you too, like the camera guy.
But they're gonna do some of the Hawkeye technology from Sony.
It'll measure the yards needed for a first down the chains,
and then people will be on standby just in case
because sometimes technology does go down, but they won't do
a full implementation if it does work. But there's a

(01:07:57):
possibility that it's some little things it happened, like the
ball crossing the goal line, and some people will say, well,
what about the knee being down? Okay, well but if
you can see the knee, yeah, it's not a it's
not a one hundred percent fix all, but it is
a Okay, the knee is down here, where's the ball?
I think I would love to see the chip in
the ball because I just love accuracy. How do you

(01:08:21):
feel about that?

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
Asking me?

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
Yeah, well, I mean we've been wondering for years now
that when are they going to start implementing the technology advances.
We see it displayed in the XFL and the UFL
and hockey and all this kind of stuff, you know,
baseball replay, and I think it's about time that the
NFL start implementing the technology, the technology advances to help

(01:08:44):
these crucial you know, like bang bang plays that from
the naked eye, or.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Game deciding plays, even if it's not every play, even
let's go we don't want a game decided on human
error and you can't see every angle because there's a
scrum on the goal line. It's sometimes it's hard to
see those sides. Sure, and we're not saying to replace
all humans, but I think I'm all for technology making
the game more accurate. Tennis, that's awesome. When they show

(01:09:11):
the ball, it's like right away too, that's super sick, Like,
let's check the bird. It shows the ball. That's super cool. Okay,
So a couple of things. Matt has a podcast you
guys should check out. Will put in the notes section
as well how you can check it out. What is
the name of your podcast?

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
Stay Ready to podcast?

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Stay Ready And that's also like your thing too, write
my mantra and little little personal brand. Yeah, so Stay
Ready the podcast. What is it about?

Speaker 5 (01:09:36):
Primarily the root of it is, says testimonial based, faith based.
I love to share testimonial story from teammates, people that
have I've played against the NFL, people within the music industry,
whether it's an artist, songwriter, manager.

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
So we have some great guests that we do.

Speaker 5 (01:09:53):
And I think the coolest thing is there's a lot
of parallels between athletes and country artists right here in town.
I think the parallels that are interesting is is really
the grind and the nature of both businesses have a
lot of parallels and similarities. So I just love having
a safe place for people to come share some tough
moments in life and hopefully the listeners gain, you know,

(01:10:19):
a lot of encouragement and motivation from those stories. And
I just love having fun and and actually get into
a lot of these people that come on the podcasts,
I mean for the first time on the podcast. So
it's just a great way to get to know somebody
and and learn the story.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
And I love sharing those stories.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Last couple of guests you had, we had Dalax Alexander
h JTF two sniper out of Canada. His name is
jt F two. No no, no, Dallas Alexander is his name? Okay,
then some kind of ranked class j TF T is.
That's a cool name, j F two.

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
It's like a Navy seal pretty much. But he was
in the sniper class. He's got the world record for
aungest kill shot two point two miles away him and
his team, but he was one of two guys to
make that shot. But he's also now transitioning into country music.
He's no longer serving the military in Canada and now

(01:11:13):
he's a singer songwriter, and so.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
He came on and just talked about his life and faith.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
It was in the shot, yeah, world record shot, and
then I mean it was crazy that three days later
the assassination attempt. So he's kind of blown up social
media wise because he's been on a lot of podcasts
about his expertise and kind of what it entails and
all the secret service people that he are, our big
time political figures that he's had to protect in situations

(01:11:39):
like that. And then we have a really cool one tomorrow,
Rob Havner, I believe his name. He's a he does
a lot of the thirty for thirty stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:11:50):
So he's done the de Manning Family.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
What do you mean does he's a producer for it
of those shows.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
Yeah, he's done to Shaquil O'Neil, and so I'm really
interested to hear story.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
And he's right here in Nashville.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
Check out Stay Ready with Matt Overton. We'll also put
it in the notes so you can see, Matt. We
really enjoyed having you on. I mean it also makes
it easy for me cause I can just say stupid
stuff in the fact check right here.

Speaker 6 (01:12:13):
That's the best part.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
As you were talking, Bob, every time you're looking at Matt, like,
what are you going to say?

Speaker 4 (01:12:17):
I had a chirp back a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Man, how stupid am I?

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
Matt?

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Thanks for being everybody. That was awesome. Check out Stay Ready,
I go follow. We'll put everybody's socials, but don't forget
read sings, Wake up, wake up, and.

Speaker 7 (01:12:31):
Don't forget everybody. Hey else, that's a good question. I
have it recorded, I just need to do some final
touches on it. So I was trying to figure out
if I was going to put it out this week.
It's probably not gonna be this week, but just so
I can keep myself accountable, I'm going to try my
hardest to have it out on Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
The what is it the going to say? Next Friday?

Speaker 6 (01:12:53):
Next Friday?

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Yeah, fifteenth, it's the ninth. Okay, so then what about
how how's the jingle coming for the Boby Bunch of
new mailback song. I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 7 (01:13:03):
I have it started on that, but I have it
in voice notes, the melody, everything, just.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Gotta just gotta put it down four or five days away, probably.

Speaker 6 (01:13:10):
Yeah, I'll do it this Weekend's next next.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Friday, next Friday, the seveny thir No, I'll do it
this weekend for sure. Let me blow the whistle. Thank
you guys, and we will see you guys next week.
See you guys,

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