25W: Are the Saints the Greatest Team Ever? + Matt Cassel In-Studio + The lg Nobel Prize Winners

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Speaker 3 (01:38):
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Speaker 1 (01:47):
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Speaker 2 (01:48):
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Speaker 4 (01:49):
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Speaker 1 (01:53):
Blow the West Wedding, Thank you, Welcome to twenty five Whistles.
I hadn't think Tom Brady was all that bad yesterday.

Speaker 5 (02:00):
Big improvement, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Big improvement.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
The voice got deeper too.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
I think it took a lot of notes. I think
they're probably got the week one. Yeah, week two, I
didn't notice him a lot of the time, which means
he's doing his job. Sometimes he came off as a
little cheesy, like a little over the top, but he's
such significant improvement from week one to week two, he's
going to be just fine. And he was just talking
about sports. And by the way, it was a hard

(02:25):
game to do because it's Saints beat the crap out
of them.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
What are you going to talk about after the first
two first half?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
I mean, I only did Division two play by play
and then I have to play by play and color
on the road because they wouldn't pay for two people,
and it was impossible. When the game is a blowout,
there's nothing to talk about. So the fact that Brady,
you did a fairly good job week one to week two,
huge significant improvement.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
So I like that.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
And they put some in his voice.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
I think he puts some.

Speaker 6 (02:56):
Yeah, he probably listened back to like, do I really
sound like that? It's confidence, you can here's confidence too.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
That's my first note. Second note is I bet a
lot of money on the Cowboys and they and I
and I found a way to bet them. I bet
money line. I had a bad betting weekend in general,
but I bet Cowboys money line and ceedee lamb over
seventy yards because that kind of got me back to
where what the points were giving me. You parlayed that, yeah,
and so ceed you hit it. The Cowboys just got
run like the Saints may be good.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, that's it. I think the Saints are good.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
The Saints they had scored. I'm not sure how the
game ended because I turned it off, but they were
like fifteen for fifteen on drives of the whole year, like.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
You know, how the game started, that's how it ended.
They never stopped.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Did they score every time they had the ball?

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah? I think they only had one field goal and
that was like just a short one at the end
of the game.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
If so, possibly a record.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Maybe two punts.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Well that's no, no, that's the point.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
No, no, no, they punted the ball. I think I
think we stopped it maybe twice the whole game.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
That's what I'm saying. That was they had gone fourteen
or fifteen possessions in a row, scoring every single time.
And it almost doesn't matter who it is in the NFL.
If you're doing that, that's significant offensive coordinator Derek car
looks good.

Speaker 6 (04:01):
Camara, Camara touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchstone, touchdown interception.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Punt interception though got him field goal.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
So that's the one punt and one interception.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Well what we.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Should do then, because we have Matt Castle coming up?
Who Matt Castle? Who was awesome? Yeah, I mean just
came in and just I didn't know what to do,
was going to be like, but just came in and
just kicked it right in the nuts. Hilarious, lit it
up like energy stories. Uh you a Castle guy?

Speaker 6 (04:35):
Yeah, of course I have, Yeah, a soft spot, deep
spot in my heart for him, of course, for infinity.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
Yeah, infinity is that the right word if you like it?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (04:43):
Yeah, because oh wait, I mean he came in and
did pretty much under.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Touch of the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
Yeah no, actually we missed it.

Speaker 6 (04:49):
We were eleven and five, but barely missed the Dolphin
that year, the one year we missed and we still
went eleven and five with him and like to replace
Tom Brady like that, that's huge?

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Well week did he go down? That was Week one?
That was almost Rodgers esque.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Okay, So what we're gonna do is, why don't we
just get all our personal thoughts, grievances or enjoyments out
of the way. Love it because we all kind of have.
Except for read, we didn't really watch sports.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
I don't have one.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
No, I did nothing. All right, buddy, good talk to
you though.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah, man, I would read right now, you don't watch nothing.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Let us just go, Eddie, you're over there, your face
is red. Go ahead.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
I'm just done. I'm done, man, You're done with what.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
I'm done done with You're not done with anything.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I'm done. Okay, I'm done. I'm done going into every
season thinking that we're gonna win the Super Bowl. Like,
I'm just done with that. So I'm I love the Cowboys.
I will always love the Cowboys till the day I die.
I'm a Cowboys fan. But I will no longer jump
into the season thinking that we have a chance to
win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
I don't. I don't think that that's an accurate description
of what your attitude is going to be for now on.
I don't think one loss in Week two changes Why not?
Why would you not have changed it already through the
disastrous last few years you've.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Had Because we should have won the We should have
won yesterday. No, you shouldn't. We should have. We should have.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
They're really there was never and I say to someone
who lost like two thousand dollars on that one game,
there was never a time where I thought the Cowboys
were going to win the game after their second drive.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
No, no, I get it. After the game start. I found
out real quick after the first touchdown, which was in
the first like minute of the game. After that, I realized, Okay,
we may not win this game. However, we should have
won that game going into the weekend. Going into the weekend,
Vegas had us what second?

Speaker 1 (06:34):
But Vegas never knows. It's hard week two. They don't know.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
I think the Vegas odd makers are Cowboys fans.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Well, Vegas the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I was thinking the same thing.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Sick So okay, but it's still look at look at
all that yesterday. Look at the Raiders. Raiders were plus eight,
plus eight and a half.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's still too early. Oh it's the script, is what
you're saying. No, I'm saying, maybe I shouldn't be done.
Maybe it's just the NFL.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
There's no script anyway, What do you have to say?

Speaker 3 (07:02):
I just I don't know, just gonna go. I'm gonna
be like read going in every week and just be like, no, man.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Doesn't have a passion when it comes to sports.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
I'm not gonna have a passion anore. I'm just gonna
watch it and when they win and be like, that's good,
they played really good this week.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
And then you're hurt, And that's okay because I've been
hurt many, many, many times. But you're lying.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Also, I'm not lying, okay, So I'm not lying.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
And I'm also raising four boys who are growing up
in a Cowboys household, and they're they don't deserve that
kind of pain. They never got the joy right at you,
He's got the joy like the nineties.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
Dude, That's that was the best years of my life.
My boys are growing up being like this is terrible,
like this is this is what it's like to be
a sports fan.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Well, they'll also not be as passionate as you.

Speaker 7 (07:43):
That's because they've all Yeah, you're given them a team,
though I never had a team.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
You're from Arkansas, though, aren't are the Cowboys? Aren't they
the I just never a Cowboys fan.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, I mean the Cowboys are probably the most the
most popular team in Arkansas. Yes, but it's not like
you have to be a Cowboys fan. And I was
not a Cowboys fan because everybody else was, so I
automatically like, I'm out. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry for
your loss.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
How's our defense?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Like?

Speaker 3 (08:07):
What do you think? Like our defense is terrible?

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Or like, again, the Saints might be the best offense
in history.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Of sports, so with Derek Carr as their quarterback. Interesting?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
The thing about Derek Carr was he's supposed to be
pretty good.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
You've said that every year.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
I know he's supposed to be he hasn't been, but
maybe finally he's in the system that kind of allows it.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
You know.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
Is it Kubiak?

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Gary Kubiak?

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Is there?

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Nothing?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Is?

Speaker 5 (08:28):
Is it a Sun Clinton?

Speaker 1 (08:29):
I thought it was a son too. I know he
coached in San Francisco. He's in that whole tree because
they did a whole graphic on it. But I think
it's a son. Do we know? Because otherwise I only
think that because the named Kubiak?

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Who else is named Kubiak?

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Yeah it is a son?

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Okay, all right? Who used to coach Texans?

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Remember? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, yes, okay, Eddie, I'm sorry for your loss.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Man.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Thanks Kevin Patriots.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
I mean it was competitive, and they didn't necessarily turn
the ball over and give the game away like they
usually do in the last.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Three or four years.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
I thought they were gonna win it at the end
of me too.

Speaker 6 (08:58):
They had their shot, they didn't get it done. Kudos
to the Seahawks. It was a good game, competitive game,
back and forth, and they stopped the Seahawks when they
needed to in the fourth quarter on third and one
short and they kick the field goal going overtime. You
ever shot, and they just didn't get it done.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
How many more losses until you just want losses?

Speaker 5 (09:15):
How many more losses till just.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Lo because there's a point where you kind of have
to go. I just don't want to finish around five
hundreds because we have no draft pick. You don't want
to mid Yeah, So you either want to win or
you want a really good draft pick.

Speaker 6 (09:29):
At the beginning of the year, I'll say five wins
is a win in my book for the season.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
So I'll take that.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
So twelve losses, if they lose the next couple games
in a.

Speaker 5 (09:38):
Row, that's okay. Actually not this week because they're playing
the Jets.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
You gotta win that one, yeah, I want so you
want to win this one, Yes, you want to win
for now on. Yeah, if they lose two or three.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
More, yeah, yeah, if we get into week six or
seven and it's like, I don't know, we're two and
four to two and five, and it's like, okay, let's
just keep losing here.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, because it's better for the long term future exactly.
I like this talk. It's cute and all. But do
players ever talk like this? No, because players will be
watched and graded. Yeah, they'll be great about for their
individual play. So no, because players also they understand the
team doesn't give a rip about them. It's a business.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
It's a business, so they've got to always look good.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, they're trying as hard as they possibly can. Yeah.
Coaches are different in GMS. If they know that they
have picks. No, I'm saying, if they if they know
that they will be there the next year, next a
couple of years, they have some job security. It's a
bit different. Mike textas Longhorns, it looks awesome because yours
went down, so it's kind of bittersweet.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
It Arts looked awesome too. Arts looked really good. There.
He has moments where he's a little, but yeah, when
he came in with the lead. So I don't know
if that changes anything for me, but I was still
not fully buying into him. They're they're ranked number one.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
How early did viewers go down? First quarter?

Speaker 1 (10:47):
And did you see Arch outrun everybody?

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
He outran He can run.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Dude, if you haven't seen him break around the right
side running. It wasn't like Peyton Mannings fake who was
so good and he got around that kind of run.
His fake was good and then he outran everybody. The
name Manning, show Eddy this it's not sononym runner. Watch him,
watch how and not.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
The day they can't catch him and someone looks slow
and that DV is hauling button. He can't catch him.
That's crazy, that crazy. Good for him.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, I was happy at first passed he was a touchdown.
Then he had the running play and then he threw
it up. He threw it, he threw he threw four touchdowns.
Yesterday he was four touchdown or Saturday. Yeah, and then
we brought it a third stream next week you have
I don't know if you was going to play next
You play ULL Lafayette next week or U L. Monroe
or one of those Schirrels because it's it's ab injury said,
he's already out, so I wouldn't play him. If they're

(11:46):
not Louisiana Monroe, it's it's a Louisiana team, I believe. Yeah,
it's all the same. Yeah, you just combine to me
all those little schools over there. Yeah, so yeah, Texas,
I didn't you know, didn't play anybody, but they didn't
play nobody. UTSA from mid Major has been I doy're
not as good as they used they have in the
last couple of years. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I like

(12:07):
we coach Trailer, Friend of the Show, TSA, Yeah, Jets,
New York Casey feel fantastic, guys, it's been.

Speaker 8 (12:17):
It was a beautiful day yesterday at Nissan Stadium with
my dad.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Did you feel good? Was Uh?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Never a doubt, never a doubt that they were going
to pull this out?

Speaker 1 (12:27):
No, that was I can't tell I can't tell you because.

Speaker 8 (12:30):
I had doubt will right now. It's like I'm not
used to actually winning. I feel like this is like
the first game that my dad and I have went
to that they've won in like ten years.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
So my question to you was, are you happy because
you won or are you kind of mid because you
want but you barely beat a bad team.

Speaker 8 (12:48):
I'm just you know, I'm going to be optimistic here,
which is is very rare for me. But I feel
pretty good. I think we're going to work out these kinks.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Now.

Speaker 8 (12:58):
We're playing Kevin team on Thursday, and I don't like
that spread. It's minus six and a half. So I
think that game is actually gonna be pretty tight. Really, Yeah,
that's what I saw. I have the Jet initially six
and a half. Yeah, that's what I saw initially. But
I think that I think that's gonna be close.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
I think the line, but the Patriots have actually been
playing competitive.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
I'm just talking about the Jet should win this game.
Spread aside, Who cares about spread of your fan?

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Unless I mean I bet heavy on Arkansas. He didn't cover,
but still they didn't cover. It was a terrible game.
But it's not about media.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
No, we're not there yet, the Jet.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
The Jets can win. They can beat the Patriots, they
can beat the Broncos. Yeah, then they have the Vikings
who knew gosh.

Speaker 8 (13:36):
Like Sam Donald did this already with Carolina. Then you
go like three and oh or something like that. Like
early MVP though.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Is if I'm being because I hear you, the difference
is this Minnesota team is not that Carolina team. They're
actually a bit better. Yeah, and they also have Justin Jefferson.
Yeah who got bay got hurt?

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Right?

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, he did come out back, but he should be
back at ninety seven yard I Meanessin Jefferson, he'll be fine.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Yeah, I was watching it live. The ball you couldn't
even see it on the screen.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
So and then you just see Justin come out of
nowhere and just boom right in the order.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
But even if he is out for a couple of weeks,
I'm just saying, the Vikings are not the Panthers from
that year.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
So how do you feel about the Jets for the
rest of you few years?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Great?

Speaker 8 (14:15):
Yeah, it was. It was awesome. It was pretty funny
because my dad is like knee surgery. So we're in
these like special seats and we're sitting next to these
like old ancient southern white men, and like there was
this roughing the passer call in the game, and it
was kind of bs or whatever. My Dad's just like
up there like screaming and cursing and these dudes are

(14:36):
like just looking at him, just like what is wrong
with this man?

Speaker 3 (14:40):
So there was there was some entertainment in there for sure.
That was good.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
So you and your dad bonded though to it's fun.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Oh yeah, it was one.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
It was great.

Speaker 6 (14:46):
What was the stadium like when Will Levis had another interception?

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Yeah, that's terrible, right, Yeah he started passing. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (14:54):
His coach even said it afterwards, he's dumb. He did
it two weeks in a row, like it was the.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
What's he thinking?

Speaker 5 (15:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
It was like a backward shovel pass, like a steady rolled.
Is he the worst starting quarterback in the NFL?

Speaker 3 (15:08):
I think that's Bryce young Man.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
I still take Bryce. I still believe yeah, just because
Bryce young Bryce he has nothing with him.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (15:16):
I saw him almost like crying on the sidelines. I
don't think guys saw that he was crying. There was
there was a moment when like he just looked so
distraught that there it looked like tears were I feel
for him well enough in his eyes.

Speaker 5 (15:27):
Yeah, I will not give up on him yet.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Me either, put him, let him get out of here.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Oh you're up now.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I think Will Levis is the worst because minshew, But
no he's not. I mean no, I'm just thinking of
a guy that maybe wouldn't start.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
On every Jones. I'd still take Daniel.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
I take Daniel Jones ever, Minshee, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Justin Field, still take Fields. Yeah, Filters once, Filters one again,
I know, but they don't do.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Anything, you know, Smith Steelers a solid Oh, bo Nicks,
Bonnicks a rookie, though, I take Bonex over Levis.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Bon Nix has. Here's the thing about like what Bonnick.
The guy has so much confidence. That's all he has
right now. He has so much confident it's crazy to
watch our confidence. He has thrown interceptions and he also
looks like he can throw. He can, I mean he's
I watched him in probably half that game and it
was not good. He's but Hayler Williams listen, no prize

(16:23):
either right now. Yeah, but bon Knicks looks like eventually
he's going to belong.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
But we're talking about right now.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
But Levis doesn't look like he's inn belong Levis. Levis's terribo.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
He's definitely the worst.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Bonnicks dropping back and throwing everything about until where that
ball gets looks pretty good. Levis is just making terrible decisions.
He's a terrible quarterback. Uh yeah, I think he's the
worst in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
ME.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I went to the Oklahoma game and they played two lane,
but at the same time Arkansas was playing like half
an hour later, and I want to shout out everybody
to Oklahoma. They put the Arkansas game up in the
suite I was in. I didn't even ask him. Didn't
ask him. He had it up on the screen. It's
very nice of them. We're played to UAB. We were
a twenty three point favorite. I think we fell ten
zero pretty quick second half. We came back and won,

(17:09):
but it shouldn't have been that close. I'm not turning,
as some people are saying. I am just allowing my
thoughts on the games as I do when things are
going well to be public and people think I'm turning
on the coaching staff. I think there's been some real
deficiencies in coaching defensively general state of the football program.

(17:33):
That doesn't mean that I am anti anything. I hope
they fix it. If we don't beat Auburn by ten points,
we're going to Auburn and we won't be the favorite.
But Auburn sucks. We should be to Auburn. I want
to win every game. I hope that they proved that
I've been wrong. The last I won would have been
wrong because they did not play. As coaching, we were
not ready for you, ab.

Speaker 6 (17:52):
It was weird, Yeah, weird. I saw them down ten.
I was like, oh, no, Monday, No, that is weird.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Yeah, it could be rough.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
I'm often accused of me as a Sunshine pumper for
the program. I'm not. It's not going well offensively. We're
scoring points, but our quarterback can't throw. He runs real well.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
You can run really well.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
But we were playing Auburn. If there's an SEC game
that we want to play right now, it's Auburn. We
want to play Auburn. We want to beat Auburn, and
we want to move to the next week. So that's
all we won. I lost a decent amount of money
because I thought for sure we covered twenty three U
A B dil for it looks like Goldberg down there.
I know, Beef doug Head go tea one in the
HOODI you would know sleeves. Got appreciate that, which, by

(18:34):
the way, too much access is three and oh every
episode we put up the teams one after so far.
So we had Arizona they won the week with Oregon
they won, and then we had Chargers they won two
they are two and o so so too much access
is three and oh who wants to next? What was
our parlay?

Speaker 5 (18:54):
It was?

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I never sometimes I never.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Know because I don't think we hit it because I didn't.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Yeah, it was like LSU money.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
We didn't get LSU. LSU got. They cheated in one
cheater ref cheatd for that.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
I know Dafarance ref.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Cheated a few. There's a few calls there. Yeah, I
watched a lot of that game on mute in the
press box.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
But then South Carolina had the field goal attempt and
then missed it, so that's kind of on them.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
Georgia, Oh yeah, that was minus twenty four.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Oh that's where we missed.

Speaker 6 (19:26):
Yeah, then Oregon covered at sixteen and a half and
then LSU covered, So yeah, Georgia four point.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
Ls you covered.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Georgia should have lost that game. That that was an interception.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
I didn't see it. I saw people talking about it,
but I never saw the clue.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
And I also, I'm not going to be a hater
and talk about stoops, not going forward on fourth down.
They were in plus territory that game. The Kentucky defense hut.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Georgia Kurby smart, noops, do you watch games? Yeah? Who
are you talking about? The Oklahoma's coach Bob Stople.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
He doesn't coach Oklahoma. He his brother is the head
coach at Kentucky. And Kentucky had fourth down.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yes, wow, I didn't know that. That's cool.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
And Kentucky had fourth down and I don't remember, I
know it's fourth and long and they had to be
able to move the ball. Nobody had. The score was
like thirteen twelve or whatever. Yeah, and so he was
gonna punt trust his defense pen on the Trust's defense,
and I get it. They were like, you have you
get this. You have a great kicker going the game.
I just can't hate on them because it was a

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defensive game and if they stopped them, they get the
ball back decent field position with one time. And they
hadn't been able to move the ball the whole time,
So I can understand why they're frustrated in hindsight, but
I they hadn't been able to convert first, second, third
and long the whole night basically. But yeah, that was
a tough loss. Yeah, I was rooting for Kentucky. I

(20:46):
turned it on, turned it on about halftime, and was
ready to watch Georgia run away with it. They never did, so,
big shout out to Kentucky. But yeah, Mike's boys are
number one. Yeah, good for you, buddy. You're in though,
right a bit. They're the best, right I'm in. Yeah, championship,
We're going all the way, all the way championship or
bus huh?

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
If not, I'll eat this hat?

Speaker 3 (21:07):
What hat?

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Don't do that because they won't. They're still Texas. How
do we feel about because I was watching the end
of the Chiefs and Bengals, and how do you feel
about past in afferance? I mean I think that was
an interference call? Yeah, I mean some people are arguing
it was. I think it absolutely was not back.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
How do we feel about the six thirty and forty
and fifty and sixty yard passing interferance call? Ate it?
Do you think it should just be fifteen or.

Speaker 6 (21:30):
Especially at the end of the game like that, And
I know you can't do one or the other, So
just do the fifteen yard penalty because as soon as
it happens, like oh, game over. You like how I
watched three hours of this game and then it gets
decided on a pasting inference call and like you said,
it was past interference, it was passing afferents.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
But that just sucks.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
You put in all this emotion and watching this game
and you're into it and into it, and then oh,
as soon as that happened, like game over.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Yeah, Cincinnati blew it.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
So you guys both want you want college roles for
passing afferance or you like, I think so, yeah, I
don't mind how it is. I think they should give
those yards to the quarterback though. I think that's where
the stats like if you're going because if you're going
to eliminate and those yards have I think that that
should be quarterback given yards or half the yards. There
are a couple of rules, right because I'm okay, we

(22:13):
know the rule don't interfere, but it's so hard not
to interfere.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
I mean, are you coming from a fantasy standpoint or no?

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Because again it could used against me too, So it's
not just like my quarterbacks only getting interfered with. But
there's a bunch of yards there. I think somebody should
get something because they were cheated out of them. Same
thing with I like that.

Speaker 3 (22:34):
And the interceptions. Whenever it's a tip and they get intercepted,
they shouldn't count that against the quarterback. As far as stats.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Goes, well, no, because they throw, the quarterback gets to
pick his arm angle in which he throws the ball,
in which some make it.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Sometimes it's just kind of like happenstance, and that's okay.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Sometimes it catches or happenstance like receptions.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Right right.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
But I'm saying if it's intercepted, they shouldn't mark. They
shouldn't put that against the quarterback. It's era in baseball. Yeah,
it's an error.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
I don't agree with that, but in error is a
judgment call, and and we're not you're gonna do a
judgment call every time.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Okay. As far as the passing inference though goes, I
think that they should. Uh, if it's going to determine the.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Game, you should be able to review it, Okay, if
it's going to determine the game, ugly, it's yeah, that review.
I love review. I remember when everybone instant replay was
controversial and I was like, no, we need to replay.
And I love it's to replay. That's a tough one
to review. Yeah, because you can a finger on.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
A person in slow motion everything.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
It's like holding. Yeah, but are you gonna review every
play if it mattered if it's holding or not.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
Everyone's holding everybody, everywhere, everywhere.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I like the rule as it is. I can understand
after a game like yesterday, why you guys are be
frustrated with that or anyone. I just think they need
yards the same way I think that if you get
fouled and you make your free throws, the person that
threw you the assists that got you fouled should get
the assists. Yeah, like they're I'm just looking out for
the players.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Sure, it's nice of you.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, it's being a player myself.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
How about the new kickoff? We still kind of don't
like it that much.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
It's not even a thing to me anymore. Ye either way,
it's just like, okay, there are actual plays. I mean,
I guess I don't just not watch it during the
kickoff before we just who cares. Yeah, it was weird
seeing it live in person, just seeing them all line fifty.
It was very like bizarre that that whole other side
of the field was just like vacant.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
That would be a little weird to They are making
little adjustments too, Like at first they would if you
got past that line, because it would start so late. Yeah,
that once you got past that line, you would be free.
There's no one to tackle back there. But they've adjusted
now to where not everyone attacks fully drop back safety. Yeah,
so they're learning too.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
It's not weird to me anymore. Yeah, and we're seeing
some actual returns. Yeah, even if not for touchdowns to
like the thirty eight forty two. Okay, cool, let's go
and hit the tittle tattle. Go ahead, Mikey the tittle tattle.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
Following you playing in your basketball camp this past weekend,
if you could play a pickup game with any four people.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
Dead or alive, who would they be?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
The camp was so hard. It was so hard. I
thought it was read. It was ballers, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, some large men.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
And my hope was when I got to the coach
call camp, it was going to be a lot of
like large men, but like fat men that I could
just like run around.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
They weren't fat.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
There were a couple, but nobody read can back me up?
Nobody lasted. That wasn't like a baller.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (25:29):
There was even some older dudes there that were like
probably late sixties even maybe early seventies, and they would
like school me in one on one.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
They like they played Division one basketball. Yeah back in
the day is wild and the running full court.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Who is the best one there?

Speaker 1 (25:46):
I don't know their names, but there were there were.
There was like a national shooting coach that worked with
NBA players there playing. There was Cardell was yeah, Cordardill Jones.
He was awesome. I mean he could dunk.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
He's a big old boy.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Huh oh yeah, probably six or five, not like six
nine or six, but for a football player.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
Were they playing physical like yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:09):
People like got hurt. Nobody. It never got chippy like fight. Yeah,
but everybody was competing and it was forty minutes of
full court. And the hard thing about our team was
every team had eight people except ours because we had
two get hurt immediately. First game, we had six people
and so people are dying trying to come out of
the game and they can't one person. But our coach
was Seth Greenberg.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
Oh that's cool. I think it is all picture right.
It was our coach and so he's been on the show. Yes, yeah,
that's right.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, it's super cool. And he's you know, on college
game Day basketball and coach Miami, coach Virginia. Take him
and I hung out a bunch.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
That's awesome. He seems like a good dude.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, I really liked him. Yeah, person, are these four
people on my team?

Speaker 5 (26:48):
Yeah? You and four others.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Man, I'm probably just trying to play defense because only
wore running shoes this whole time too, because I'm just
gonna try to hustle and play defense. And then I
was getting this annihilated online like you know what, I
know what. I have plenty of shoes, more shoes than you.
I had to make a business decision. I know it
was going to be running the whole time, so I
put on running shoes. I would probably just try to
I'll just play with the greats, my four greatest players

(27:14):
i'd like to play with. I'd play with I never
get the ball that i'd play with, Steph. See, I'm
not going to be the one, though, but I'll be
the one.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
You're not going to be the one regardless, Like like
the point guard scenario, like I thought you meant like
no one.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
I don't only have a position. I'll be the one
for this, Okay, So I'll put Steph at two, I'll
put Jordan at three, Lebron at four.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
And this is in their peak right right now, yes,
right now, anytime.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
I'll take it. Pick up, you name the year, and
then at the five, I mean, do I put Shack?

Speaker 4 (27:57):
You know?

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, it's a lot of lakers. I mean I can
name a lot of just centers, you know. Yeah, but
I think Shack's more dominant than the young mean was, Yeah,
probably Shacked. That probably be my team.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
That'll be fun, show up, just lob it up, that's you.
Oh yeah, that'd be good.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I probably wouldn't get to shoot it at all, but whatever,
all right, what else?

Speaker 2 (28:17):
All right?

Speaker 6 (28:17):
Which Florida team do you think is more disappointed, whether
their start of the season the Gators or the Seminoles.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Florida State Man, Florida State is that's I think the
Florida Gators already had a bad taste in their mouth
a bit. I think they knew that the it's got
to be the Seminals because they were top ten. I
saw a stat that no top ten team has lost
a three unranked teams ever to start the season.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
It's bad, It's bad, bad.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
So this.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Florida State is I just feel bad. It's to the
point now where I just feel bad for their fans.
I just feel bad for their fans. They got screwed
out of the game last year. I agreed with they're
screwing by the way, because again that the committee makes
a judgment decision based on personnel. They did not have
a quarterback. I agreed with their screwing. They still got screwed.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
But and you complained about it too, like they complained
about it.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Yeah, Well, and then they start owing three, so they
get screwed. They lose in the bowl game, but they
already there's not a good Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
And then.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
And he lost his old team. He paid Memphis like
that is the one point three I think sometimes over
a million bucks. Yeah, Florida's gonna fight as their coach.
Another one, another one, another one is that nipor Yeah,
Dan Mallin has a winning I mean they ran Dann
Mallen out of town. He had for what they have

(29:43):
now he was rocking. Uh Yeah, So I think Florida
State those having the worst of it all because they
were expected to be good expectations. Man, they get you
every time. All Right, what's next?

Speaker 6 (29:50):
Okay, NFL, what's more surprising to you? The Vikings starting
two and oh or the Ravens own two.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
I'm gonna say the Vikings at two and oh. And
here's why it's not the because the Ravens at least
played one good team, like we expected the Ravens probably,
and then Vegas did to lose to the Chiefs, so
that one was an ex You thought the Ravens would
probably be one in one, now did they that? They Raiders?

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Law?

Speaker 1 (30:14):
The Raider should have won that game. I mean, the
Raiders should have. I'm glad they did. Bruck Bowers has
turned into a man right in front of us.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
But the.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
The Ravens zero to two isn't as surprising as the
Vikings being two to zero. Beating the forty nine Ers
hilarious surprising, I mean the Giants, who cares? But the
forty nine Ers, we didn't even if they beat the Giants,
So let's be honest, we had no We didn't think

(30:44):
that they would beat the Giants, like we felt like
the Chiefs would beat the Ravens because we didn't really know.
We were like, I don't know the Vikings are Sam
Darnolds or quarterback who's even playing running back now, Josh
Jake Aaron Jones. If you watch Josh jaks fumble to
go on, yes, tra always.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
They almost blew that. Yes, so we didn't know.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
So if the Giants would have won, we'd have been like, okay, wow.
So yeah, it's more surprise than the Vikings are to
and oh let's go.

Speaker 7 (31:09):
I'm on.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
I'm on the train. It's fun to one dam Donold train.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
I'm on it.

Speaker 7 (31:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
The Justin Jefferson pass I was crazy. Yeah, he's awesome, right.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
Next last one.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
After two blow wins the start the season, where do
you rank the Saints in the NFC.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
The greatest team ever?

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Crazy?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
The Saints are not the greatest team in the history
of NFL. It's wild to see them score so many points.
Camara has always been great as a receiving running back.
He's always in fantasy if he's not being suspended for hitting,
punching somebody like, he's going to catch catch a lot
of balls. Man.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
There.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
It's crazy how good they've looked offensively.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Yep. The guy should eat too is like yeah, nowhere, Yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
I ranked the Saints is the greatest of all time.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Okay, it's fair.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
So who's undefeated now? In general? They're two and oh teams.
The Vikings are two and oh. The Seahawks are two
and oh. Do they win? They won yesterday. The Bucks
are two and oh over the Lions, which is a
good win for Baker and crew. The lost?

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Would you say the Cardinals?

Speaker 1 (32:12):
They lost to the Bills. We want but they look
for Marvin Harrison had two touchdowns in the first quarter.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
The Eagles are one and no, they haven't played yet.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, I don't even care to go through them all,
but I'm in Saints for Champs. Can you run for
that office? Thanks for Champs, probably voter Man. I hate
that for the Cowboys because I lost a bunch of money,
but gotta respect it, all right. That's total twal thank you,
stupid his name.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
The town.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
So let's talk about the Monday night options. Kirk Cousins
more or less than two hundred and twenty four point
five passing yards. I would normally go more, but they've
thrown for so few yards. Just in general this NFL season,
there have been very few three hundred plus. Do you
know who the leading passer was this week?

Speaker 2 (32:56):
And I do not know.

Speaker 5 (32:57):
It's gotta be car dude.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
That's crazy again now because two it was week one,
yeah obviously, and two is not going to retire highway.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
It's on eight. It's him, man, it says all. He
gets to make his own life decisions.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I know iouer. His dad would be like, son, come on,
we love you man.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
No more.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
Eddie kirk Cousins more or less than two twenty four
point five passing yards.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
I go more, I'll go more to more.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
I'll just get burned by this over and over again
by Jon Robinson more or less one hundred and one
point five total yards. That's receiving and running.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
V Gihon's going off. Let's go more?

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Okay, what not?

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(34:20):
Next up, our talk with Matt Castle. He was actually
here this morning. I didn't know what to expect with Matt.
It was awesome, funny dude, just energy stories. Matt played
for the Patriots, the Chiefs, the Cowboys, a few others.
You can check them out now as a Big ten
football analyst on NBC Sports. Here he is Matt Castle
in studio with Matt Castle. What game did you do

(34:42):
this weekend?

Speaker 2 (34:42):
I went out to UCLA and we had the Indiana
UCLA game this weekend.

Speaker 1 (34:47):
What's do you think you could play in college right now?
I would love to play, like if if let's say
it doesn't matter which school it could be USC if
they call it some Matt. We just found out you're
the only player ever to be given one extra year
after your NFL career. Do you think you could play
to right now in college with I don't know how

(35:09):
old you are now, thirty nine? How old are you
forty two guys? But I appreciate that right there. You
love thirty nine thirty nine.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
I'll take that all day long.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
You think you could read enough defenses and still be
super effective in college?

Speaker 2 (35:20):
One hundred percent? I mean it's one of those situations
where that's what I did for fourteen years, you know
what I mean, And so I could go in there now.
I might be a little bit rusty my movement patterns
inside the pocket, feeling the rush. You know, that's the
thing that people don't really understand when you take time away.
The biggest adjustment is coming back and being able to
feel the game, particularly in the pocket when somebody's running

(35:42):
at you. They've got a head start and you've got
to move in that pocket and still keep your eyes
downfield and keep focused. But in terms of deciphering what
the defense is doing. And it's also interesting to watch
the college games now because when I started covering college
football last year for the first time. There's a lot
of different nuances now in terms of scheme, like they
run this three three five, which when I and I

(36:06):
was in the pros, you rarely see it. But really
what it does is put an extra dB on the
field that's really more of a hybrid linebacker dB, and
so they can create different variations and be very multiple
on the defensive side of the ball. So it's challenging,
I'd say more so now for these quarterbacks and these
guys that play the game in college football, because you

(36:26):
really have to be locked in on what they're doing
schematically to understand where you need to go first with
your read, because they try to confuse you and give
you pre snap looks and you're like, wait, what the
hell is this? Who's this guy? Who's this guy? So
it's interesting. It's a challenge though.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
You think you could throw now fifty now, yes, fifty
completion rup h yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Hell yeah with all the slip screens and the hey, coach,
hook me up with a few screens early, get me
into a little rhythm, give me that easy flat, let
me move the pocket, you know, a little play action.
I absolutely believe I could get fifty percent in there.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
You think these guys is now because of what you're
talking about, like more defensive backs on the It's happened
in the NFL too, right.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
It does. I mean the majority of these teams that
are in eleven personnel, which is three wide receiver sets,
you're normally in some kind of personnel group on the
opposite side of the ball with an extra dB in
the game because you're not gonna want a linebacker that's
two forty five trying to cover down on a slot
receiver with the quickness and everything else that they're able
to generate.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Do you feel too that that's why the linebacker is
we'll say less valued, is because now the common linebacker
that we grew up watching, right, you have to cover
somebody and maybe the Ray Lewis that's a bad example,
can't cover one of these wide receivers or tied end
split out wide right.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
And that's part of it, which when you watch a
guy like Fred Warner right for the forty nine ers,
I think he's the best linebacker in the game. But
he can cover in space, he can run sideline to sideline,
he's violent, he's physical, he's all those things. But those
guys are few and far between. So, like you just said,
when we grew up and it was a full back
in the backfield or two big tight ends and you're

(38:04):
running downhill, well, the importance of having that guy that
could go fill the hole and fill the gap and
come take on alignment or a big fullback was much
different than what the game is now because what they
want to try to do is get you in space, right,
they want to use the whole entire field, the vertical stretch,
the hordes, so if you can't cover down on a
tight end, and the way in which these offenses now

(38:26):
are so they're like they're a level ahead just in
terms of the offensive coordinators and stuff like that of
trying to create those mismatches, because every week that's what
we would do. We would go in and say, where's
their weakness. Is it a cornerback? Can we somehow isolate
this safety who's a little bit stiff, not good in space?
Can we isolate him on our tight end who we

(38:48):
know is a pretty good player, and then attack that mismatch, right,
And that's what they're always trying to do. So those
linebackers that can do both and have the skill level
to run sideline the sideline, that's what makes them super.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
When you were a kid growing up in California, who
was your team?

Speaker 2 (39:03):
You know, it's interesting. My mom's from Cincinnati, Ohio, and
that was in the heyday with like Boomersias and that's quarterback.
Growing up, I was, yeah, yeah, he's lefty, and so
we grew up watching him. My dad was from Lubbock, Texas.
Shout out to Lubbock. Not a lot of things other
than out there, but when when I grew up, it

(39:24):
was also the Dallas Cowboys, Treke and Michael or Van,
Emmitt Smith, j Nova check like that. I remember one
time for Christmas, my mom all I wanted was one
of those like old school starter jackets. I lived in
California too. I don't know what the hell is it
todd his hell out there.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
I'm like, I just I want the fool.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah yeah, I mean it was this full zip up.
I go to the park. Later on that Christmas Day
we went to go get some energy out with my brothers.
Left it on the bench literally literally Christmas Day. Somebody
took it. Lost my but it was probably better for me.
And how he can sweat in the jacket and I
don't have to.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
So your favorite NFL team as a kid was a.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Cowboy, I'd have to say the Cowboys, especially like that
was the nineties.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Was they were winning?

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yet they're winning three Super Bowls? I mean that was
their dynasty. Right?

Speaker 1 (40:13):
What about college? Did you have a college team or
was college football not really dominant in southern California?

Speaker 2 (40:18):
Right? College football really wasn't that dominant. So growing up, yes,
you had your local teams with the UCLA USC But
this is the other kicker. My grandfather who's still live today,
one and one years old, wow, went to Notre Dame.
My uncles went to Notre Dame, and so really growing
up we're a big Notre Dame family because the Irish
were the Irish Lou Holtz, that whole deal, and and

(40:39):
my first football game I went to. My grandfather took
me to a game at the Coliseum and I got
to see Lou Holtz and the whole crew, rocket Ishmile
and those guys play, and of course Notre Dame ended
up winning, and I was actually there as a Notre
Dame fan at the time. And then when I committed
to USC, I got disowned by majority of my family
on that side, but I had to explain. I was like, look,
Davies runs the option. I'm not much of an guy here.

(41:01):
I'm not gonna go down the line of scrimms, get
my head beat in to flip the ball to the
running back. I'm gonna try to stay inside the pocket.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
So who are your final teams when you were recruited
going to college?

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Well, I was recruited by a bunch of teams. I
think my finals were USC, Tennessee, Miami was really what
it kind of came down to. UCLA had a shot
in there. I just and then ultimately I chose going
to USC because at the time when I was going
through that process, Carson Palmer was there, and when I committed,
I think he was a true sophomore, so I thought

(41:32):
I'd go there sit for a year. He actually ended
up getting hurt that year, so he saved a year,
and everybody was projecting him to leave early, right, I mean,
the guy was an absolute stud, and so I ended
up sticking with my commitment to USC and backed him
up for three years before a Linehart took over and
I didn't get to play the two heisman two heisman.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
Back to back man do you think you would have
transferred if it had been as easy.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
I think it definitely would have played into the conversation
a lot more and probably give me a better opportunity
to go to a school that I wanted to because
back then it was you go. If you transferre to
another D one program, you sit out a year, you know,
And that was the toughest commitment because I also thought
education was a really important aspect of it. That's why
I went to USC living in LA and the connections

(42:17):
that you have in the longevity that like, look, at
that point in my career, I was like, gosh, okay,
I'm not the starter. I need to have a backup plan.
And I was going out doing internships and all that stuff,
and I just thought, us, you gave me the best
opportunity from an education standpoint to stay and just ride
the thing out.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
So what do you think you would have done had
you not gone to the league.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
It's interesting. So I was a little bit frustrated after
that red shirt junior year when you know, because you
want to play and I was in that catch twenty two.
So I went out and joined the baseball team. I
played baseball, was recruited by coach Gillespie going there. So
I was like, screwing, I'm getting a spring ball because
spring ball sucks when you're just sitting there. And so
I went and I said, hey, Coach Gillespie, look, I

(43:00):
would be a free scholarship. I don't know if I
can still do it, but if I can help you
any capacity, He's like, what do you want to do?
And I thought the easiest transition would just be pitching
because my arm was in shape. So I went out
and threw a bullpen through as hard as I possibly could,
and he's like, all right, I think you can help Yeah,
join the team. So the coolest part about that whole
experience to open up the year we went to Cuba

(43:21):
for a tournament. I don't know how the hell they
pulled this thing off when nobody went to Cuba. Nobody
went to Cuba, right, Yeah, they hadn't left in the
embargo nothing. And so I'm like, I mean, we got
to see Fidel Castro come down in a parade. WHOA.
During the day, we stayed at the Hotel National Downtown
on the sixteenth floor. You're you're there, You're going into
the Koheba factories. I was like, this is amazing. We

(43:42):
got to the hotel, they're giving us bottles of rum
when we're like twenty year old kids in our room.
Twenty year age. I mean, we were down there for
a whole week, and so we got to go up
and down the coast and play in these different providences
and see just that country is amazing. It's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Do you feel safe?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Completely safe? It was amazing. And you know what was
the most amazing part was our bus driver and our guide.
These guys spoke five languages, like they're so well educated.
But again, at the end of the trip, all of
us chipped in however much we did to give him
as a thank you, and he starts crying. He says,
this is more than I make in two years. You know,

(44:16):
it's just it was a different experience and you kind
of just respect what we have too here and just
the different cultural changes. But it was beautiful, cobblestone cobblestone roads,
and just the beauty of the different way in which
the buildings and the different colors and all this stuff.
It was pretty majestic.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
When you finish at USC like, you get an agent?
Did you get an agent?

Speaker 2 (44:41):
I'm assuming this is the fun This is another funny story.
I mean I started, I went out and I went
to the pro day, and it sparked some interest because
I threw the ball well and I thought I had
physical ability, but again I didn't have any film. I
threw thirty three passes in all of college, and so
so then I'm sitting there, I'm like, gosh, I'm starting
to get phone calls, drafts getting kind of close. Maybe

(45:04):
I should So you didn't have an agent. I didn't
have an agent because there's no interest. Nobody's sitting there going, hey,
let's get the backup quarterback that it's never started a
game in college. So I called Carson Palmer, who was
my roommate in college, and I said, hey, did you
think he can call your agent and have him represent me?
And he does, Yeah, I don't worry, I'll call you tomorrow.
And he was the first overall pick, so he had
some weight. So he calls Dave Dad. He calls Dave

(45:25):
done and says, hey, didn't I need to represent my buddy. Dave,
to his credit from Athletes, first calls me the next
day and says, hey, man, I see it going something
like an AJ feely AJ Feeley sorted a little bit,
but he didn't play much, but he still got in
with the Eagles and then it went from there and
he represented me going into the draft.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Did you think because you got drafted the seventh round, right,
I did. Did you think you would get drafted? What
were you hearing from teams?

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Honestly, I didn't think there was a chance in hell
anybody was going to draft me and use a draft
pick on somebody that wasn't proven. And the interesting part
about the process was I had workouts with the Bengals,
San Diego, charge Oakland. None of the teams were the Patriots.
And so the final day of the draft, I was
heading down to my agency's like because free agency is

(46:09):
gonna happen pretty quickly. And I went down there. I'm
sitting there with at the time, my girlfriend, but she
became my wife. We've been together for a long time,
and uh, We're sitting on this couch and we'll start
taking some phone calls and all of a sudden, I like,
somebody's on the line for you, and so I was like,
I pick it up and it's coach Belichick and he's like,

(46:29):
Matt does Coach Belichick? I just want to welcome you
to the New England Patriots. I said, I said, come on,
are you being serious right now? Is somebody messing with
me right? And he's like, no, no, I'm not messing
with you. You're not gonna be the next pick in
the NFL draft. Congratulations, We're happy to have you. And
I was like, so I ran in the other room.
My wife's sitting on the couch and the TV's on.

(46:49):
I was like, watch, She's like flipping through everything. She's like,
she's like, uh, you haven't come up yet.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
I was like, watch the sprite the ticker and my
name comes up and they're like USC And the funny
part was watching these commentators sitt there, go h Matt Cashle,
what the hell is going on here?

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Like they didn't have anything to say, no stats to read.
I mean literally, my junior year, I was on special teams,
playing tight end at the end of that year because
we had some injuries, and Carol asked me to come.
So I'm an kickoff return and the wedge getting blown
up with quarterback pads on. I'm like, this is terrible.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
So you then, what is your what does Belichick say
your role is going to be what is what's his
ceiling in his mind for you? When you joined the Patriots,
you know.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
They brought me in as a quarterback, and Scott Pioli
and some of these guys. Scott Pely was the head
of personnel there. He had actually called the morning of
the draft and said, hey, look, if we take a quarterback,
we're going to take you, or we'd love you to
consider us for free agency. And so they always envisioned
me as coming in and competing at quarterback. And so
when I got there, of course they put up the

(47:55):
depth chart and it's Tom Brady, Rohan Davy, Chris Redman,
Doug Flutie and then I'm low man on the totem pole. Right,
I'm like, oh shit, I got some work to do.
But it was an intimidating environment. They just had come
off three Super Bowls in four years, right, And so
of course Brady walks up the first day and I
instrotroduced myself, Hi, Matt Castle, mister Brady. He goes, don't

(48:16):
call me mister Brady, call me Tommy. I was like,
what a week week introduction. They might just cut me
just based on the fact I can't deal with this
nerd the entire time. You know, you're just sitting there
going ah. But I just kind of went in there
and kept my head down. And it was really the
process of learning the offense early on because it was
a very detail oriented process, a lot of checks, but

(48:38):
the quarterback also handled everything at the line of screaming.
So Mike identification. When I say Mike identification, I mean
you set the protections for the offense alignment, but that
could constantly change check with mes. And it was wordy
too in terms of how we called formations, like we
for instance, we had F shift to zero out slot
alert zip jab one thirty cross X go alert Samurai

(49:00):
And I'm sitting there and then you got to get
the double cadence in right, And I'm sitting there trying
to learn this stuff. And there was times when I'd
walk up to the line of scrimmage in seven on
seven then forget what the hell I just called in
the huddle. I'm like, just somebody pop open, just somebody
pop open. But I competed and then they gave me
an opportunity in preseason, and really for coach Belichick, he

(49:21):
said it when you walk in the door, he said, look,
I don't determine your role. You determine your role. We're
going to choose the best guys that give us an opportunity,
that are accountable, that are going to go out there
week in a week out, work hard, and then if
you get your opportunity to play, that's when you've got
to step up. So that gave me hope, right, And
then I got that opportunity in the first preseason game
and I played three quarters. I played really well, and

(49:43):
I even surprised myself because you never know until you
get that opportunity what's exactly going to happen when you
step on the field. The lights come on and you
get to play. And I understand it's preseason there's a
lot of backups, but I'm not gonna lie. I was
pumping my chest a little bit. I felt pretty good
about that performance. The best the this was after the game,
like some reporter came up to me. This was my
first first interview ever on the field, and I told

(50:05):
him exactly what the defense did. I said, Oh, they
went blit zero. So I checked the protection. Seven man
protection signaled the hitch. The guy caught it, broke a tackle,
went in. So the next day, I get a call
from Bear's like, hey, will you come in This is
his This is Coach Belichick's main assistant. And so I
go into his office. I thought Coach was going to
give me a little pat on the back. Good job, Bud, like,

(50:29):
and I get in there and goes Castle, just shut
the fuck. He's like, god, I mean, you tell him
every everything they don't know. I thought about Blitz there.
I'm sitting there going, oh, this is not what I
had just for future reference. Just just don't say shit, okay,
all right, go get out here. I was like, I

(50:51):
just walked down there with my tail but to my leg,
just going, oh man.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
When that season starts, where were you on the depth chart?
Were you automatically two or did you go from five
to three? They kind of couple of guys.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
That's exactly what happened. So Rowan Davey had been the
backup there. They brought in Doug Flutie, who was forty
one at the time. Awesome dude drove up the first day.
I knew I was gonna like him because he had
a nineteen eighty transam with an eagle painted on the front,
and I was like, Dude, this is throwback here. So
we had Doug Flutie, who was forty one, great guy,
and then we had Chris Redman, who was a veteran

(51:22):
quarterback played at Louisville and then had been around the
league for a little while. And then it was myself
and then as the offseason progressed, Chris got released. Before
we started preseason, Rohan Daviy Rowan Daviy had been there.
Obviously Doug was still there, and so we kind of
split time. They gave me a lot of opportunities in
preseason to play, and so when it all came down,

(51:44):
it was the final cut. After the last preseason game,
they released ug. I mean they released Rowan, Davey kept
Doug as the two, and I was the three. And
I was like I came in because you know, those
are the most nervous moments for any player, when you're
on the CUSP and you don't know what's your future,
your holds. You're also like you're seven round draft pick,
you don't know where it's going to go. And just

(52:05):
walk in the locker room. I didn't get a call.
I'm sitting there kind of nervous, and so I see
my locker and this is the first time because they
have these temporary lockers that they bring in for the rookies,
and then all of a sudden, that was the first
time I actually had a real locker in the locker room.
And I was like, I think I made And I
was like, I just slowly call it.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
I think I made that.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
I started calling my family and I was like, you know,
it's just one of those moments that I've been through
a lot of adversity throughout my college career. I always
felt like I could had the ability to do so
just didn't. It didn't come to fruition when I was playing,
and then to walk in in that moment, it was
just surreal to sit there and I had a locker

(52:48):
right next to the brady and I'm sitting there going, man,
I'm on an NFL roster. I made it. Out of
all the different odds and not starting college and all
that stuff, that was a pretty special moment.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
How do you stay hyper focused whenever you may not
get to play and use that focus.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Yeah, that's a great question, and I guess you can
never really let your guard down, and you kind of
go into every week with the purpose of preparing over
preparing almost to a certain extent, because as a backup quarterback,
you don't get a lot of reps, and so you've
got to be mentally honed in. And also you know

(53:27):
that this is your opportunity. So if it does come up,
which I've been waiting for a long time, everybody's like,
you're one play away. Well, that one play away never
came from me. I was like, when's this play gonna come?
But it's hard at times. I mean, I'm not gonna
lie to you to sit there and go through year
after year and you're sitting there waiting to get on
that field and waiting to get your opportunity. But the
only thing that I could say is I had a

(53:48):
front row seat to the best to ever play the game.
His preparation was unreal. He was meticulous. We'd go into
Saturday night meetings before games, we go through the call
sheet three times, and he would go through reads and
he say it out loud. And so I got this
front row seat to listen to how to be a professional,
to watch it on a daily basis, to watch him
be the first guy in the building. And we became

(54:11):
workout partners throughout that first season and ever, that entire
time I was there, we're the first people there working
out and so, and then also how he took care
of his body. So I got to see all these things.
I got to emulate some. Obviously you got to be
your own self. But then when my time finally did
come that fourth year, it was like I knew the offense.

(54:33):
I understood the offense, and then I could make the
checks at the line of skimmage and so there wasn't
a lot of thinking going on. And I think that
was a huge benefit for me is I got to
wait and watch, learn, see everything, but also understand all
those little nuances. So then now was just reacting. And
I think that's when quarterbacks play at their best, is
when you're reacting, see react, and not thinking about all

(54:55):
the n at the line of scrimmage and trying to
figure out, oh gosh, did I make the right mind
point that I where's my hot where's my side of
just you're just you're up there, operating at a high
level and you're just going well.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
When he gets hurt and you're the starter and you
start to really play well, does does he call you
and be like, hey, let's go good job, Like how
does it? What's that relationship?

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Like, Well, we had such a great relationship while I
was there. I was like a little brother and he's
like a big brother, even though I'd kick his ass
and I'll still tell him that. But here's supportive, uh,
super supportive, like a guy that would call me one
of the first calls i'd get after the game and
talk through certain things that he might have seen or
might have done a little different.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
And he was still like involved watching the game too.
He wasn't just like, hey, good job. He was talking
about what you just went through.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Right, He's like, Hey, if you ever see them go
cover seven. Cover seven's a bracket coverage two high safety,
but with the one person that they don't account for
is me in the run game. So if because they're
really playing man coverage underneath, but they're making these doubles,
He's like, hey, if they do that ever again, hey
use your legs take off. Like he'll see stuff like
that the way that he sees the game, even watching

(55:59):
it from Afar because he was in LA at the
time with the knee surgery. They had complications all the
different stuff that was going on. But he was super supportive.
But I also feel like it was a blessing for
him not to be in the building every single day,
because again, that's Tom Brady. He's the leader of the team,
he's a franchise. It allowed me to grow as a leader,
for guys to look to me for that leadership and

(56:20):
see me as the quarterback of that team.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
You think that helped you when you went to Kansas
City because you then did have a little bit of
I'm the leader of an NFL team without somebody looking
over my shoulder.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
I do to a certain extent. I think that there
was a lot of wholesale changes when I got there.
You know, we were in a rebuilding process and it
was a brand new system. And so when you come
up in that New England system, it's so buttoned up.
There's so much preparation. It starts in the offseason, and
we go through so many different things, and there was
just a different It was a new voice and I

(56:50):
hadn't been around that for four years, and so the
way that they taught it in New England that might
be completely different under Chan Gaily and his system and
how they did it. And so it was adapting and
there's times, I'm sure for every quarterback that when you're
comfortable in a system and you go through something that
you fight it a little bit like why are we
doing this? Why can't we do this? And you've just

(57:11):
got to try to jump one hundred percent in and
absorb as much as you can with these new offenses
that you're in. Because I was in a lot, I
had a lot of different coordinators once I left New England.
So when I was in New England had Josh McDaniels.
First year we had Chan Gailey. He got fired a
week before season. It was perfect timing. Oh god it no,

(57:32):
it wasn't. Todd Haley takes over, but his system was
kind of a little bit more similar to what we
did in New England, but we hadn't been practicing that,
but he was going to call play, so we switched
the offensive terminology, the verbious changing, yeah, the verbide change,
all that stuff. Next year, Charlie Weiss came in and
he had been in New England, so we hit it

(57:52):
off and that was my most successful year there. Then
Charlie wife Weiss leaves. They bring in Jim Zorn from Sea.
Now that's a West coast system. Next year they had
Brian Dayball came in, he changed went to West Coast
System and it was like a hybrid. And then I
went to Minnesota and so like I had two different

(58:14):
coordinators in Minnesota. Then I get traded to Buffalo and
Dallas in the same year. So it was like a
myriad of different things going on in my mind because
con conceptually, a lot of people have similar concepts, but
how they call it, how they see the field, how
they want you to read it can all be different
because it's different voices and just different understandings of how
they want to get it done.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
So do you look at a guy like Justin Herbert
and say his growth possibly has been stunted a bit
because he's had to change coordinators every single year, Like,
do you think with consistency he would be significantly better
than he is now?

Speaker 2 (58:46):
There's no doubt, I mean, and I think that that's
interesting when you look at some of the quarterbacks that
have the most success, they're in a system and they
can build off that system. And I'm not saying that
there hasn't been guys that have switched over and had
a lot of success, but I think that that again,
it goes back to what I said earlier about you
have the most success as a quarterback when you're not
thinking at the line of scrimmage. It becomes second nature.

(59:08):
You see a particular coverage or a matchup that you
like and you just say, well, there's split safety here. Okay,
I'm going to get to the back quick because you
just know it in the system like that's we've run
this multiple times. They're going to get a lot of depth.
We're gonna give this guy stay aheaded down and distance.
Whereas there's constantly this second guessing of you here play
and you might it might not register right away just

(59:31):
because of terminology is so different about how it should
be read or where you're going to start with this progression.
And so I think that there's a lot of value
in being within the same system and developing within that
system and the same coordinator.

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Do you miss it?

Speaker 2 (59:46):
I missed the locker room. I miss the competition on Sundays,
but the locker room in particular, the relationships you build,
those bonds, the amount of time that you spend with
those guys, and then just the shenanigans that take place,
you know. And then the thing I also missed the
most is after a victory, getting on that bus with
your boys. You just went to battle, and there's nothing

(01:00:07):
quite like sitting there popping open a cold one. They
might maybe I don't think they're allowed to do that anymore,
but we used to, you know, we get a little
little We used to have buddies on other teams. If
they were the home team, they'd bring us a big
thing of cooler, a beer. So sitting there and just
going through different stuff that happened in the game, you know,

(01:00:28):
matchups that took place when you got your ass kicked
or got blown up, or you made a bad decision.
Laughing about it again after victory is awesome. After a loss,
it's not as much fun when you're sitting there going,
oh yeah, I did throw two picks.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Sorry, guys, A right, final three questions Eddie, yeah, Matt.
So when you get sacked, like, how bad does that hurt?

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
It depends, you know, there's some some that look worse
and it's kind of how you land right, and then
there's others that don't look that bad and that hurt
like hell. And then there's the ones where you get
like I had woman Clay Matthews get it's a ten
yard head start and or running back. I was like,
you have him in protection, and I see him take
off from the second level. I was like, okay, he's
gonna get picked up. I'm in shotgun and I'm dropping

(01:01:10):
back and I'm starting to see him get closer. I'm like,
when is it? And then the next thing I know,
he just crushes me in the ribs, knocks the breath
out of me. Those hurt like hell. And then it's
guy like Hainesworth hitting me. One time he picks me up,
body slams me. I thought he broke all my ribs.
I mean, he got a personal foul. I mean, these guys,
that's their job, right, is to come and really make

(01:01:31):
you feel it, and you feel it for sure, and
it's sometimes not until the next day where you wake
up and you go, oh man, that was that was
a tough one, you know, But I mean it just
kind of depends on when you Sometimes though, in the
early part of the game, I like to be in hit,
you know, it kind of gets you into the flow
of the game. You get hit and you're like, okay,
we're in the flow of the game. Let's roll.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
So another one interesting, another question, Yeah, take it back yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I want I want to ask you about just Scott
kind of you know, sliding like he looks easy, you know,
but how's that decision when you're running and you're like, ooh,
I can get that first down.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Yeah, it's so hard as a competitor when you're out there, man,
when you're seeing there, you're looking it down and distance,
you know, especially on third down, right third down, you're
trying to go get it, extend to drive for your team,
and you see these guys constantly going and trying to
get it. But that's when problems happen in terms of
you're going to take contact and the sliding aspect in general.

(01:02:26):
There's been so many different conversations because you know, when
I used to see three guys converging and it's first
and second down, guess what baseball slide, don't hit me,
blow the whistle. But then then there's the times that
take over where you're just like you're in the red
zone and you're going trying to dive for the pylon.
You're going for it. And then it wasn't until really
Jim's Orn. Jim Zorn was one of those guys that

(01:02:48):
he said never slide, you know, like you would a
baseball slide, because you expose everything here and that's when
these guys are coming in late full force and you
see it all the time. These guys just get clipped.
And he's like, always dive head first because you can
kind of protect yourself with a glancing blow or something
like that. And so it was interesting because I was
really the first time I had heard you want me

(01:03:10):
to do what? But he's like, that's how you protect
yourself because you can kind of at least avoid contact
or at least take a glancing blow instead of exposing
everything and just making you know, getting crushed. And you
see that a lot too.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Last question, how do you feel now when you if
it's cold, do you hurt? Are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
No? You know what, I feel pretty good, man. I
was blessed. I've I've had my injuries and stuff like that,
but I stay in shape. I eat pretty well. And
so when I say pretty well, don't kid yourself. I'll
shove a pizza down my throat and every now and then.
But I mean, I've got full range of motion. I
can go I'll play with my kids, I can go
for a run, I can do anything. That I want
to do, so I feel very lucky in that circumstance.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
You love the NBC Sports job.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
It's fun, man, it's fun to be out in those environments.
You know the pageantry of college football and then the
history and the rivalries all that stuff. It's ever changing
now with all the conference realignment, but I mean to
be there and to feel the like when we were
in Nebraska last week for that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
College Colorado game.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Yeah, that was so kick ass, man. That crowd was
raging and just into it the entire game. And you
also have to think about they had like three hundred
sellouts in a row. They hadn't been to a bowl
game since twenty sixteen. But then to feel the energy
in that stadium and the excitement because Matt Rule and
what he's been able to accomplish. You know, he's just

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a program builder and he's got that magnetic personality and
he's got him rolling right now. So it was awesome.
So you see that we've been at a like Penn
State whiteout game, which was one hundred and ten thousand people.
I couldn't even hear myself on the sideline. But it's
it's those atmospheres that really bring college football life. So
it's been been a blast.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
We appreciate you coming by. Yeah, I think that's this
has been awesome. I feel like I can play. That's
encourage me to keep trying.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Yeah, I'm one play away.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Hey, we go the park, Go get it all right?

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Thanks Matt.

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Kansas State whooped up on Arizona man did not expect that,
but whooping to happen like it did. Avery Johnson two
undred and sixty total yards of Kansas State. Yeah, that
was a grand opening, grand closing.

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Yeah, it's battle. Alabama whoped up in Wisconsin. Wisconsin's quarterback
went out really early, not that it would have mattered.
I only watched about a quarter of this. I think
Wisconsin scores a few more points, but they couldn't stop Alabama. Yeah,
they were Missouri be Boston College. That pretty good game
because Missouri came back. They were down early and I thought,

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oh this could be it and it wasn't. Boston College
and Bill O'Brien played tough, but they played at Missouri Missouri.
When's twenty seven? Twenty one? Oregon whooped up on Oregon State.
Dylan Gabrie had three hundred yards two touchdowns. Boom over
cam Moore looks awesome. In Miami they beat Ball State,
now ball State. I mean, look at the little masko.
It's a little birdie. You know what again, let's little Bertie.
Let's little ball State, little card, little burberd, a little

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head of bird cam Moore probably heisman. I don't know
what the odds are now, but two or three. It's
gotta be yeah, maybe one. Yeah, Ole Miss whooped up
in Wait Forest, Texas whooped up on utsa Quen. You
weers went out. We saw that Archie Manning through for
four touchdowns. Georgia Kentucky ugly game. Was rooting for Kentucky.

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I think everybody was, not because I hate Georgia, just
because you'd like to have seen it. The Kentucky fans
were going crazy. Was rooting for him. Tennessee whooped up
on kent State that game. They could have scored a hundred.
They could have scored a hundred.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
What did they scored?

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
It was like fifty to nothing and in a half.

Speaker 6 (01:08:05):
Yeah, I think the first quarter is twenty nothing with
like four minutes of I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah, he's
seventy one nothing seventy one?

Speaker 5 (01:08:12):
Did you see the South Alabama?

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Was that?

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Who was that?

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
They had to shorten the fourth quarter the other night
because they were up like eighty seven to ten.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
I did, gosh, So that's your top twenty five. Let's
go to the NFL Real quick Bills and Dolphins. This
is last to left with a concussion. But that being said,
the Dolphins, the Bills run the game was done. Seatawks
the Patriots a good game. Good game, Kevin, you did
good buddy.

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
Hey thanks. He didn't win, but everyone had fun.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
Man Saints swolps. Cowboys is ugly?

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Move on?

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
How about the Bucks? How about the Bucks winning again
in Detroit? I mean that's awesome. Packers beat the Colts.
Malik Willis had had a little touchdown pass right there.
He didn't look he didn't look great. He didn't look terrible. No,
I thought I had the will Levens too bad. He
just left. What's up?

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
Not just the Colts? I mean pretty disappointing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
Anthony Richen did not look.

Speaker 2 (01:09:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Jets beat the Titans. Titans with two turnovers. That will
have a lot of little fumble flippy backwards.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
What's he?

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
What's he thinking? The Vikings beat the forty nine Ers.
The Commanders beat the Giants in a game that nobody
really wanted to win or lose.

Speaker 5 (01:09:21):
I was like, this game is still going on.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I know Chargers whipped the Panthers twenty six to three.
I can go through all of them. But I did
watch a bit of the Texans and Bears last night.
Bears struggled. That's okay. C J.

Speaker 5 (01:09:33):
Stroud is a dude.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
He's a dude.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
Gos.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Steelers won, but I mean the defense won that game.
But Field's got another with w.

Speaker 5 (01:09:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Raiders beat the Ravens. Good game. Raiders were down ten
I think on the fourth quarter, right, yeah, something like that.
They came back in one. Bengals and Chiefs. Really good game.
Chiefs win field goal, pass interference. The whole thing happened
there at the end. That'll be good for playoffs though,
right they play again. Yeah, games are always good. Yeah,
so fun week in the NFL. I do want to
read you guys some of this. They have these things

(01:10:04):
called the ig Nobel Winners, not the No About Peace
Prize and Nobil Prizes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
But it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Real random things that happen in science. They give awards
to all true, by the way, not made up. So
I would I would say it's like the Nobel Prize,
but for the dumbest things that are real. A team
in Amsterdam did three hundred and fifty thousand coin flips
and found out it's not really fifty to fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
Yeah, I get that. I mean, it's not going to
be fifty to fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Well they're not saying that once the odds.

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Are fifty to fifty each coin.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Flip coins are slightly more likely to land on the
same side they started on.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
That's ridiculous. Why is that we could try it right here?
We could try it a thousand times, and.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
So they did it three hundred and fifty thousand times.
It's like the team of scientists did it three hundred
and fifty thousand times.

Speaker 5 (01:10:53):
How long is it over?

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Three hundred two thousand seconds? For sure, you can breathe
through your butt.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Researchers found that many mammals are capable of breathing through
their butt. The study showed doctors might be able to
treat things like COVID using a special mixture of oxynogenda
ox ox oxygenated. I gotta said the right the first time. Yeah,
I just didn't feel right when I said it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
So you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Hold your nose, you put your hair down, but oh
my god. This year's Peace Prize went to the study
that looked at whether you could put pigeons out of
missiles to help guide them. The Botany Prize went to
a study that found some plants will imitate the shape
of a fake plastic plant if you put them next
to each other in your house for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Oh, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:11:41):
Crazy, it'll form the shape of the fake plant.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
That's really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
The Anatomy prize went to a study that looked at
the direction your hair swirls in and whether it's affected
by the hemisphere you're born in. Kind of like the
myth that toilets flush and option opposite directions and it
doesn't matter. The prize for medicine went to a study
that found that placebos work better if they cause a
few painful side effects. Placebos work better if they cause
a few pain Also, the person I got it. That's

(01:12:08):
crazy to think about.

Speaker 3 (01:12:09):
Come on, it is, because that makes no sense to me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Wow, So placebo's not real, right, But if you're taking
something that's not real and it's giving you a side effect,
a painful sie effect, you think it's then real. So
therefore it works because you're like, oh, it must be happening,
so deep stuff. Wow, my mind is blown. So all
you're doing is convincing people it's the real thing, which
is a placebo, which is what it is. And the
way to convince people that it's real, it's about putting
in a side effect that just exists by itself. Wow,

(01:12:38):
that should get the real prize.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
That's good.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
The Physics prize went to a study that looked at
the swimming abilities of dead trout. I don't care. The
chemistry prize went to a study that used a process
called chromatography to make drunk and sober worms race each other.

Speaker 3 (01:12:55):
Yeah, boys did that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
The Biology prize went to an old study from nineteen
forty one. Researchers brown paper bags while a cat's stunned
the cows back they were trying.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
See.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
I think it's scared cows into producing more milk. I
don't know what. The prize for demographics went to a
study that found places where people supposed to live the
longest tend to have poor record keeping when it comes
to when people were born. That makes sense for fun
jobs like They found that most places where the world's
oldest people lived, it's also the people that took the
worst records of when they were born. You know, the

(01:13:25):
correlation pretty strong.

Speaker 5 (01:13:26):
Makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:13:27):
Okay, I think we're done here. We'll go our final thoughts.
I'll go first, I watch Caitlyn Clark play. She's awesome.
I've been on since before day one, when you guys
were telling me stop, stop with it. She's my favorite athlete,
my favorite American athlete, favorite athlete right now, most assisted
by a rookie ever single game, record for most assists
by any player period, not a rookie, most combined points

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scored and assisted in a single game. She had thirty
five points yesterday, than most three pointers by a rookie,
most consecutive games with at least thirty three pointers, first
to be a rookie, to record trouble double, longest player
of the week's for a w NBA or NBA rookie.
I mean, it's NonStop. She's awesome. She's not even done.
They played the aces. A's a really good they're probably

(01:14:09):
gonna win it again. But she's also going to be
probably second or third all time in three pointers mate,
all time, not rookies WB all time. So big cantlein
Clark guy. So yeah, that's what's up. That's my thought, Eddie.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Yeah, I'm just proud of my son, my eleven year
old son. He was really sick yesterday and he had
two basketball games and I was like, bro, you gotta go,
and he's just like that don't feel good. I was like,
you should probably go. You missed last week because we
went to my dad's funeral and like, you should probably go,
let's not let your team down. And he pushed through,
man fought through. He had eight points one assist. I'm like, dude,

(01:14:47):
you play better than you go than you normally do.
That's the Jordan flu game.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Yeah, that was it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
I gave him the Jordan. Yeah, so I guess that's
what God I'm going. I don't know, but I'm proud
of him for doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Yeah, he didn't let his team down.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Eight points more Iris scored in the r game. I
scored four and had three rebounds in a game. But
I didn't want the ball. They gave me the ball
throw out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
You had some good no look passes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:12):
Because I can't see everybody's look. All the no looks.
I can't see every pass. Is that every passes a
no look for me? I have terrible vision. So now
what happens is I don't move my head much because
it it tips off. Whe I'm going to pass the
ball because I can't. I only have one eye that works.
So if I'm always just using that one eye to
look around, you're really I'm going to be telegraphing everything,

(01:15:33):
so I just don't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
All my passes are no look stop what you're being
stupid right now? That's funny, though, that's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Very few of them do. I have to actually look.
I've gotten so good with my periphery because I've had
to that. I can see things happening on both sides
of me. I don't see very well, but I'm no
looking like crazy because I can't see like a blind
guy out there playing basketball. What do you expect? It's
called no look pass? Okay, uh go ahead, Kevin.

Speaker 6 (01:16:01):
Uh Well, if you follow me on Instagram, Eddie as
he knows, I got a dog this weekend, my first.

Speaker 5 (01:16:07):
I grew up with a dog, family dog, but this
is my first.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
My dog.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
That's a cute dog.

Speaker 7 (01:16:11):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:11):
Does it get bigger?

Speaker 5 (01:16:12):
I love him? Oh yeah, he's a little baby's nine weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
What kind of dog is No?

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
I mean it's like, is it a bigger because I
saw your girlfriend with it? Is it you guys dog?

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:16:19):
It's mine. Yeah, she has her dog mine smartness Australian shepherd.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
Oh those get semi big.

Speaker 5 (01:16:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
You don't want a purse dog, even if you're a dude.

Speaker 5 (01:16:28):
Pers And it's not a mini They have mini ones too,
but I got a regular sized one.

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
Because then you gotta get a purse. I got a purse.
It ain't that fun.

Speaker 8 (01:16:34):
It's fun that'n't want to put a dog in it? Okay,
casey Yankees. Atop the al East, Aaron Judge looks like
he's been reawakened. I will say though, that that whole
thing with Devers and Coal was yeh yeah, very very
low moved by Cole, so not too happy with him.

Speaker 2 (01:16:48):
But happy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
Yeah, well because Devers owns him.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
One out nobody on.

Speaker 8 (01:16:52):
Yeah it was, and then it yeah, completely backfired. Yeah,
then the bass clearing double or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
So that was hilarious.

Speaker 8 (01:16:59):
But we ended up winning the game. So well, not
that game, but the series three three?

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
Isn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
One out nobody on?

Speaker 5 (01:17:08):
There's nobody on. I don't know how many outs, maybe wonders, you're.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Sure how many outs? Exactly?

Speaker 5 (01:17:12):
One at the very most, Yeah, one at the very most.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
But Oriole, Yeah, well he's the top. I think we
got two games, That's what I say.

Speaker 5 (01:17:21):
Red.

Speaker 7 (01:17:22):
I went and watched a little bit of the Corn
Fairy Tour. They came into town yesterday at Legends around here.

Speaker 5 (01:17:29):
Uh I learned that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (01:17:32):
I want to play more golf and some of these dudes,
I'm not gonna lie. I'm like, how are you playing
right now?

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Like I could do that? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
What do you mean?

Speaker 7 (01:17:43):
Like some like some I saw some shame like terrible
shanks off the tee Like really yeah, oh the corn Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:17:51):
No, still though that should be I mean they should
be good. That should be good. It's better than college golf,
and I don't expect college golfers to shank them. Yeah yeah, yeah,
so you think when you watch corn Fairy that you
should be playing at least corn Frey level.

Speaker 7 (01:18:02):
No, no, because it's like, you know, I'll see them
hit a drive and I'm like, man, I could do
better than that. But the consistency is where it gets you.
You know, they're like, Okay, they might shank this one,
but then they're gonna they're gonna go on the next hole.
They're gonna do better and do better.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
But I don't even think you can do better than
their drives. Really yeah, that sounds like a challenge.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
No that way, he says, it sounds like against them.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:18:23):
I didn't say me. I just said them.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Oh yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Yeah, okay, that's it. Thank you guys, We'll see you.
Thanks to Matt Castle for coming in. We'll see you
later on this week. All right, Eddie Blows, I got you.
I'll see you guys next next see on Friday, Thursday
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