25W: Justice for Bryce Young! + Former NFL WR Golden Tate In-Studio + UNLV HC Barry Odom

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Speaker 2 (01:33):
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Speaker 1 (01:34):
Golden Tate played for the Seahawks and the Lions and
the Giants wide receiver. We'll talk to him and head
coach of UNLV football, coach Barry Odom will be hon
as well. They're three and ohero and they're killing it.
So I'm glad everybody's here. Justice for Bryce Young, Justice
for Bryce Young.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Why why did you see the.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Stat about Howard Baker and Sam Donald both left the Panthers.
They got good.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Oh the Panthers suck. Okay, there's a trend.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
The Panthers just suck. And it's not like the guy
got bad all of a sudden, like.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
They're all different coaches. It's just the organization can mess
it up.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
That bad organizations usually stay bad regardless of who the
coaches are, right, Like the head of the snake is
the owner who then hires look at the Cowboy.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
I know, I know you're gonna say that, because that's
what everyone's told me. Like as soon as since Jerry
Jones gonna be the owner, they're never gonna win a
Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
I don't know why you took that so personally.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
I'm just saying because I hear that all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
You can even look at successful franchises and there's a
reason why they stay successful, the same reason the franchises don't.
Look at the Chiefs, they were never really that bad.
They just haven't been that bad, even before Mahomes, even
when they had Alex Smith, Even in their years where
they weren't that good, they rarely had bad years. You
can go to switch sports, go to basketball. Since the

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Golden State Warriors have changed on, I mean, they're always
pretty good. They do a good job in the draft,
they do a good job developing. Look at the Knicks,
they suck and they've remained sucky. James Dolland's a sucky owner.
Look at the Redskins turned football club turn commanders.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
They sucked.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
So yes, justice for justice. They didn't even give him
a chance. I watched mel Kiper do this whole rant on.

Speaker 6 (03:12):
How c. J.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Strout played two whole preseason games mostly and how somebody
else and Bryce Young played one drive at the end
of the very last game against Scrubs, and how they've
switched coaches and how they come. Justice for Bryce Young.
He didn't get bad all of a sudden, So yeah, smaller,
do you.

Speaker 7 (03:29):
Think that's a coach decision?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Or Pepper, who knows the temper could put it in
a roulette will and been like, well to sleep with them.
So Bryce Young, this will probably great for him. Hopefully
he gets out of there. Yeah, hopefully you can get
out of there. It'd be hilarious. If we have traded
to Miami, that'd be awesome. He goes, he starts with
the Dolphins, but he may not start for a year two,
but he's twenty two years old. He's getting run.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Justice for Bryce.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
I'm just not gonna be on the whole. Bryce Young sucks.
I do not think he sucks. It sucks for him
right now. He has no confidence. Yeah, yeah, that's all
I just wanted to say. Y justice for Bryce.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Okay, you know a lot of things that were not
going right, and that is the biggest in the whole
world out.

Speaker 8 (04:06):
Of all number one Baker and Sam since they left
forty six touchdowns for interceptions.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Look at Baker like he leaves there, goes to the
Rams for like that one game crushes It's the contract.

Speaker 7 (04:18):
I forgot about the money net football comes in like
a day.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Yeah, yeah, you get out, you get out of Browns
are before that because he got drafted by the Browns.
Oh yeah, but the Browns notoriously a crappy organization. Yeah
for a long period of time. Yeah, Like you rarely
see organizations that are really great for ten years and
then piss poor for ten to twelve years. Usually there's

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a couple of years because eventually contracts catch up or uh,
you know, you can't pay for all your players. You
got to kind of start over and rebuild. But rarely
are team's really great, Like the Patriots will eventually bounce back.
It may take them a couple of years to do so,
but they have good leadership. Yeah, anyway, Bryce sounds awesome.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Glad everybody's here.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
Let's go over and do the tittle tattle.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
Here you go.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
His name ever, the tittle tattle's.

Speaker 8 (05:10):
Just talking about it Bryce Young being benched Panthers. Back
to square one. Where do you rank David Tepper in
the ranks of worst owners in sports?

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, well, I wouldn't rate him the worst because they're
in a small market. We don't talk about small small
markets as much, so yeah, it seems like a pretty
sucky owner. But I mean it's the guys like the
Dolans in New York, because when the Knicks can't be good,
you're like, why can New York not be good? And
not just not good? A couple years here? A couple years,
they're like, they haven't been good. They were finally pretty

(05:38):
good this year. Yeah, for the first time. So what
do you think New York Casey is Dolan a sucky owner?

Speaker 9 (05:44):
Yeah, he's a pretty pretty sucky owner. I will say,
to give him some credit, the Rangers are pretty good
and that's the hockey team in MSG, So he does
half his job.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Correct, He's a sucky basketball in it.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
He's a sucky basketball good.

Speaker 10 (05:57):
They haven't been, yeah, I mean except for last year.
So I mean, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 9 (06:01):
We picked up a bunch of new players, so maybe
this is the start of something new. Leon Rose, maybe
he's said, you know what, let me just let me
just handle.

Speaker 10 (06:08):
This right now.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Dan Gilbert comes to mind. He did win championships, but
he screwed up the Lebron thing, and then Lebron happened
to come.

Speaker 7 (06:13):
I mean he got lucky.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I feel like he got very he got very lucky,
got the first pick. Yeah, so Dan Gilbert is terrible.
I mentioned the Redskins a minute ago and then the
command luckily that he sold the team. He's terrible?

Speaker 10 (06:27):
Is Tepper the new Snyder?

Speaker 1 (06:28):
And I just felt like Dan Snyder, Yes, except without
all like the sexual allegations, racists, all the allegation.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
That's fair.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Just felt like a bad owner. Yeah, but again he's
in a small market, so we don't talk about it
as much because the Panthers, they don't have the expectation
of being great.

Speaker 10 (06:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
So uh yeah, it sucks for Bryce Young. Justice for
Bryce Young. I'm gonna put Dolan and Dan Gilbert though,
as my leaders.

Speaker 7 (06:57):
Okay, yeah, all right, what else?

Speaker 6 (06:58):
All?

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Right?

Speaker 7 (06:58):
Which ranked matchup? Are you looking forward to the most
this weekend?

Speaker 1 (07:01):
You know, the Illinois Nebraska games fun because Illinois won.
They had a big win last week, right, and they
beat Kansas a week before that? Who they played last week?

Speaker 4 (07:10):
Or?

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Am I mixing up to Kansas?

Speaker 7 (07:12):
This was two weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
That was a big win.

Speaker 7 (07:13):
But I do I'm not sure they played.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Last week Nebraska. You know their quarterback is just doing costplay,
Patrick Mahomes. He does everything just like Patrick Hohmes. And
are they good? Right? I mean that's that that that
game will be fun?

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (07:26):
The USC Michigan game. But is Michigan's not? I don't.
I don't think Michigan's any good. But they both have
numbers beside them.

Speaker 8 (07:33):
Yeah, I mean USC's favored at Michigan, so Michigan's dogged.

Speaker 7 (07:39):
Again.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Michigan's the top twenty team, so Vegas doesn't care about
the number beside their name.

Speaker 7 (07:43):
Yeah, and I'm still surprised.

Speaker 8 (07:45):
I mean, I guess they lost to a really good
Texas team, but still it's like they look they don't
look very good.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
In the end.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
This was an easy answer for me, but I tried
not to put it first because of personal reason. But
the Oklahoma Tennessee game is going to be the game
of the week at least, maybe not close score like
the but the game most people pay attention to because,
first of all, it's Oklahoma's first SEC game. It's Josh
Hipel who won a national championship as the Oklahoma quarterback
coaching Tennessee. It's Josh Hipel who is also the offensive

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coordinator Oklahoma and got fired going back to Tennessee. So
or to Oklahoma, excuse me, so that that's gonna be
a fun game for many reasons. First, Oklahoma as a sea game,
the old the old champion, coming back coaching against his
former team, all of that. So that to me is
the game I'm looking forward to the most. And I

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don't know who I'm rooting for.

Speaker 7 (08:34):
Go Balls.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
What do you mean you have family?

Speaker 1 (08:37):
I don't think I'm rooting because I mean, I like.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
But you're not a Balls fan, right, and then your
wife is a huge Ou fan.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
But here's the thing. And I like Oklahoma. No, no,
I don't dislike Oklahoma, which is almost like I like,
but I really only like two teams. Team one which
I love is Arkansas and Team two, one of the
teams that's allowed us to come to their facilities, and
it didn't matter which one it is, but I just
like I.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Like them, Oh, either one, any any one of those
like I like my root for them because we've.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Personally gotten to spend time with him ever and we
feel like, oh they're actual humans. We so like. I
love Arkansas, I like any of the teams we spent
time with going up to too much access.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, so we have not been to Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
No, no, no, But I'm saying I don't know that
I have a rooting interest because one, I don't want
Oklahoma coming into the SEC going oh wow, this was
much easier than we thought because I don't have to
deal with that part of my family.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
But it's saying that is Texas saying that, but Texas.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Is really good where Oklahoma's kind of borderline good. But
Tennessee is so obnoxious. I think I'm rooting for Oklahoma
talking it out here, like what hurts worse living in
Tennessee where people won't shut up about being everywhere with
all the all we wanted it all this year, just
all over everywhere Oklahoma. My family being like, well, I
told you. This is that's a I'm being pulled. I'm

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stretch armstrong being pulled both in directions. Yeah, I'm gonna go.
I guess I'm pulled for Oklahoma or a tie, A
zero zero tie, scoreless and they have to call the game.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
All right, we're done, guys, We've got five overtimes. We're done.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, that's the game I look for to the most.
All right, next up?

Speaker 8 (10:12):
All right, which week two injury? Do you think we'll
have the biggest impact on their team? Cooper Cup, Isaiah Pacheco,
A J. Brown, and then even Deebo Samuel.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
What's interesting about Cooper Cup is I think by itself,
Cooper Cup, that would suck. But now you have Pookah
and Cooper both out to no. I got a text
earlier ask if iul play a littleide receiver this week?
So I think that that with that, that's that's tough.
He's on I r uh checko. And they went and
got a couple a couple of the who do they pick?

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yeah, they started.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
A J.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Brown is not on the I R though, right, Hampshi.
They're not putting them on max four week or minimum
four weeks.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
And then you said Debo as a fourth Yeah, sucks.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Deebo sucks because McCaffrey is also out. Yeah, I think
it's probably gonna be a j Brown that is affecting
their team. That the Rams are just in trouble, are
just in trouble. But agent but the Eagles, although, I mean,
that's a bad loss last week. Okay, maybe they should
have thrown it, should have caught it.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
That's tough.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
It's there's just multiple injuries here that affected the team
in big ways, like the Cooper Cup injury and the
Pooka injury. That's debilitating to a team trying to throw
the wall. But also, I'm gonna take the check off
the list here. He's fine to watch. He's at good
good year last year, runs violently, he gives them. But
I'm gona take them off the list.

Speaker 7 (11:42):
Because it's the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
They'll figure it out. Where the Eagle.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I think the Eagles will figure it out too. But
that was not a good loss.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
You can kind of see it in the last game,
and I.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Think it's Deebo. I think I'm gonna have to go
to Deebo because Deebo and McCaffrey like their two biggest weapons.
That's one and two. I'm sure Brandon and I, but
he's never really had to be the wide receiver one
because they have all these other weapons that allow him
to not be bracketed constantly. So I'm gonna go Debo
as the late entry and the winner there.

Speaker 7 (12:11):
He's kind of a quiet guy that gets hurt a lot.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, he's also nobody really talks about. But he runs violently.
I mean he does. He gets hurt because he's just
in a lot of plays. He just gets hit a lot.
Because him and I are built the same.

Speaker 7 (12:24):
I can see it. He reminds me when he runs.
I think of you, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 8 (12:28):
All right, next up, last one with to his future
still in question. Do you think the Dolphins should go
out and trade or pick someone up.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I think it's probably easier said than done.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I mean they have that.

Speaker 10 (12:38):
I saw they picked up Huntley.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Yeah, Huntley. Yeah, we would know because every time Lamar
got hurt, Huntley would play pretty well and he kind
of looks like, yeah he runs, so the hunt and
I don't even know if they plan on Huntley to
play or Scalar if Scaler Thompson again, the.

Speaker 7 (12:55):
Last I've heard it Skyler start.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, I think Jamis has a fun idea, uh from Cleveland,
but I think Clevelan's got thrown issues where they won't
like go Jamie.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
They showed a.

Speaker 10 (13:04):
Little Tannehill reunion to oh Danny call him up.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Maybe I don't know, yes, system, I don't know that
he does what they need that quarterback to do. But yeah, yeah,
I think if they if they peel off a couple
l's in a row, they'll probably be looking at the
free agent market. What do you Garoppolo? I know, I
don't think there's an answer. I like. I like Huntley,

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so I think they did the right thing. He's their
veteran quote quarterback they picked up. But they're like the
Dolphins planning to pick up a veteran quarterback and ended
up being I think could actually be serviceable. I mean,
he did well with the he made a pro ball
that one. Yeah, he did well with the Ravens, even
p J Walker, who were him.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (13:46):
I think he's out and not really doing anything right now,
but there's probably a reason.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Right now. The Starbucks.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
All right, there you go, tittletottle, thank you name.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
The town.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
Okay, let's build our parley feel pretty good about this one.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Okay, come on.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Here's the thing though, I think Arkansas beats Auburn straight up,
and they're they're being given three and a half humongous points.
Now they have to go to Auburn. But I think
Arkansas beats Auurn straight up. I respect the healing, we'd
as good we'd do, and Auburn sucks. So we're going
to Arkansas plus three and a half. You don't, don't,

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don't bet money line. Take Arkansas plus three and a half.
And I also think I would take money line Florida.
And then if Florida's given five and a half points
at Missisippi State, Missippi State is terrible, like Toledo spanked them.
I've been there though, with Toledo beating us the Arkansas
got that's terrible, terrible.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Ed.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Now we're there, I'm gonna go.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Screw it. Don't screw it. Do I screw it? Or
I don't screw it, screw screw it.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
I'm taking three money lines here, just to make it easy.
Uh Utah, arc No, I don't want to take the
ks on money line. Yeah, great, Utah, Arkansas, Florida. Let's
just keep it clean. All three money lines, and they're
all given or getting points in different ways. Let me
know what that bets and what that pays. If you
put like ten bucks in Florida money Line, Arkansas money Line,

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Utah money Line.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
These all late games. I can't find them.

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Speaker 5 (16:17):
One hundred dollars would make five hundred seventy two.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Obaye. That Arkansas bet really helps.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
It because it's the money line and they're given three.
You're taking money line. In the reacts, Oh yeah, we're
winning that game.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Hey, you want throw another one in there?

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Oh I don't want to do it.

Speaker 6 (16:31):
Four?

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Okay, No, let's not do four.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Why would you want to do it?

Speaker 5 (16:35):
For Sam Houston State man, they're on a heater right now, dude.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
I know that last year loss ed. He kept going
sam Us saying I bet. Okay, thanks, all right. Here's
our chat with former NFL wide receiver Golden Tate. Golden
won the Blitnikoff at Notre Dame best wide receiver in
college football in two thousand and nine. He also won
Super Bowl forty eight with Seahawks. Played about every position

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in high school. He grew up not too far from Nashville,
and we talked about he's a pun or two. He
did everything. You can follow him on social media at showtime. Tate.
Here he is Golden Tate.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
I was looking at notes like deep notes because I
knew I knew about your career as a like Detroit
is what I think of when I think about you.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, where do most people associate you with NFL?

Speaker 11 (17:24):
Wise, if we're in the West Coast, probably Seattle because
more Seattle fans that out there. But if you're new
to football and kind of just now becoming your fan
rather fantasy football, people probably know me for Detroit?

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Did you was your biggest deal with the Giants though?
Was that like your most significant you know, nontract?

Speaker 6 (17:46):
No, you know what?

Speaker 11 (17:47):
The Detroit contract and the Giants contract were roughly about
the same. Yeah, except for with Detroit I was signed
a five year deal. Giants was a four year deal,
but the money was pretty comfortable.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
I didn't know when I went a deep dive, I
didn't know you play baseball, Notre Dame like to me,
blown away, like that's that's that's so like elite. But
how do you spend your time training? Because again, if
you want to be really great at something, even if
you're natural at it, meaning I'm pretty funny, but if
I'm going to get really good at whatever I'm doing,
like it takes time and effort and energy dedicated to it.

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But you batted like two seven of your freshman year.
That's wild and Notre Dame while also playing football. How
did you how did you split your time?

Speaker 6 (18:30):
You know, that's a good question.

Speaker 11 (18:32):
God gifted me with a lot of athleticism, and I was.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Able to look yet mine by the way, and I
was able to, like add live a lot with sports.

Speaker 11 (18:42):
Because I was just so gifted that I could go
out on the football field and probably go out the
night before and still succeed and have one hundred plus
shreds a touchdown as long as I got enough passes.
Same thing with baseball early on before they had the
Scott Report. But then they had the Scot Report and
they started throwing me breaking balls. And so I go
from like batten three seventy five to start the season

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till then I would have like a strikeout of game
and maybe go over four like multiple times a week.

Speaker 6 (19:08):
And then they kind of figured it out.

Speaker 11 (19:09):
But that was kind of part of the deal coming
out of high school. So I was drafted out of
high school to the MLB by yeah, by Diamondbacks, and
then again during after during my rookie season by the Giants,
and yeah, they won the World Series and I was pissed.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
I said, man, I should have been playing baseball.

Speaker 11 (19:26):
Had me a World Series, Little did I know I'd be,
you know, be a super Bowl champion. But it takes
a lot of balance, and I've always taken a lot
of pride and just kind.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
Of being everywhere.

Speaker 11 (19:38):
I was able to balance my on the field life
with my off the field life, with also the academics
part of it, along with having a girlfriend. And I
just took a lot of pride and trying, you know,
managing that. And so when I got recruited, that was
kind of part of the deal, like, hey, if I'm
coming here, I'm playing baseball and football because I didn't

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know what I wanted to do, like long term or
what I had a better chance of going pro at.
And Coach Wish is like, yeah, you know what, that's fine.
And so my first year didn't go as playing in
football nor baseball.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
What do you mean in football didn't go playing did you?

Speaker 6 (20:11):
I didn't come in and play right away.

Speaker 11 (20:13):
So it was probably really important for me to be
in those off the off season meetings and Matt drills
and like these five thirty workouts, but I, you know,
stay with him play baseball. And then my second year
I break out onto the scene as a sophomore, and
I think I put up like over a thousand yards
a bunch of touchdowns, and then went over to the

(20:35):
baseball thing and had a much more successful sophomore season
in baseball. But it was awesome because going from NFL
football college football shape to baseball was a piece of.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Case, because you were in such great shape that it
wasn't oh my gosh.

Speaker 11 (20:50):
I would go from my running like gassers and getting
crushed physically and.

Speaker 6 (20:55):
Mentally to like, now I'm just going to hang out in.

Speaker 11 (20:57):
The outfield while in the Midwest it's freaking twenty three
degrees with the windchill of whatever, and the boys are
just waking up at five thirty doing these hour and
a half matt drills, which absolutely crushed you.

Speaker 6 (21:11):
And then you got me just in I'm in Texas.

Speaker 12 (21:15):
Kicked up catching fly balls, looking at clovers on the ground,
this big chilling, going one for four, and I'm like,
that's all I need to fifty.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
Whatever, and so it was a great It was awesome
for me.

Speaker 11 (21:31):
And then I enter the NFL Draft after my third
season at Notre Dame and didn't even make it to
my third season at baseball.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Why did you choose Notre Dame? Was it very much?
Because you wanted to do both sports and they had
the ability to put you on a big stage with both.

Speaker 6 (21:46):
Yeah, it came.

Speaker 11 (21:47):
And this is the first mature decision I made probably
in my life, all right, because look, I got being
recruited by them. I went to poach on Paul, which
is in Hendersonville, probably thirty minutes north of here. And
when Charlie White shows up and recruits me, he at
this point he's got like three Super Bowl rings and
he's talking to me like this with them on showing up.

Speaker 6 (22:12):
Well, if you want to win championship, this boy's like,
you want to win championships and you know where to
go and go pro?

Speaker 8 (22:18):
You know?

Speaker 6 (22:18):
I would consider not to day and I.

Speaker 11 (22:20):
Was like what, But it came down to, all right,
if I have the opportunity to go pro in football,
we got a guy who's won world championships. Right, if
I graduate from here, I'll have probably a small step
up on a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Right.

Speaker 11 (22:41):
And also I saw opportunity to come in and play
right away as a true freshman on the football field.
And then lastly they're willing to let me play baseball
and football because I didn't know what I wanted to
do in long term.

Speaker 6 (22:54):
So between those four things, it's like, you know what
I want.

Speaker 11 (22:58):
On one one trip my official visit, it was in
the middle of winter in South Bend, Indiana. They were
preparing to get smacked by LSU and like one of
the nice good bowls, and I was like, you know what,
that's right, I'm going Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
And you went in the winter and still made the
decision to go to Notre Dame.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
Yeah, I was tripping, Like, but you know what.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
That winter there's just different.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
It's awful.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Did you get used to it though? Living there? Because
it's like I wake up.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Early in the morning every like three thirty every morning
to do my radio show and people are like, you
must get I never get. I never get used to it,
Like it just sucks every day. I'm just better at
performing while it sucks. Is that what it's like when
it's just cold.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
All the time?

Speaker 11 (23:40):
Man, it makes it it's tough getting up to go
to class and our class or our campus is so
small that you can pretty much walk the entire thing
within probably forty five minutes, so you're not really driving
the class. And everybody had bikes those mornings or just
really all day in the winter. It's a struggle, but

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you get used to it because there are some essentials
that non negotiable you have to have, and one of
those is chapstick. Bro Like you can put on three jackets,
four pairs of sweat, some ugg boots or some timblins,
some gloves, have a beanie with a little fur, but
you don't got that chapstick. Dog That win is ripping
them lips to pieces. And I learned that and that's

(24:23):
what I remember most about being cold, is like, man,
that wind, she'll hit you. It's like rip them lips apart.
And so as long as I have my chapstick, I
can do it everything else.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Any part of your or junior decision to get out
of Notre Dame because it's still cold, you want to
get drafted to a warmer weather city.

Speaker 11 (24:39):
You know, No, that didn't even cross my mind. And
I honestly like being from the South, Like I didn't
even really miss it all that much. For me, I've
always if I'd rather be practicing in the cold than
practicing in like the ninety five degree heat with humanity,
because like I, as a runner, you get so tired
so quickly because the heat. Yeah, you just can't get

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oxygen to your muscles fast enough. And then in the
cold you take them in the war them up. But
at least I can breathe. I can run forever. I
feel like it.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
What was it like going from because in high school
you were the punter?

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Are you the punter too?

Speaker 6 (25:14):
You do everything?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, so you punted, you ran the ball, not punt,
and then go around there. I think you did all
the same.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
I think like both sides at the same time, not
even really possible, but so you basically they just got
you the ball.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (25:29):
I was listed as an athlete on Rivals. I don't
know if you guys have heard of that, but four
star athlete and man. Sports has always just been my getaway.
It didn't matter what was going on in life, what
I was dealing with at home or in school or
you know. Sports made me always feel like I was
good enough, and so I held onto that dearly and

(25:50):
really took a lot of pride and just being the
best I possibly could, And going to practice in high
school was never like I was going to practice like
all right, I'm going ahead to play play some football,
play some basketball, play some baseball, and I just had
a blast with it.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
High school, I assume you felt extremely dominant, like man,
amongst boys, just because it looked like you're bigger, faster,
maybe not taller, but faster, stronger than everybody.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
College.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
As soon as you get on campus, do you feel
like I'm already as good as ease?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Like where does that?

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Where did you fall athletically as an eighteen year old
with like twenty one to twenty two year olds, you.

Speaker 11 (26:25):
Know, athletically, I've always sized people up and be like, yeah,
I'm the best athlete on this field. And maybe it's
a sickness in a way, but there's not too many
times I let anyone believe, or myself believe that anyone
was better than me and anything like.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
You felt when you got to Notre Dame, you were
already as good of.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Athlete as anybody there a thousand cent and and that was.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
Also my issue.

Speaker 11 (26:48):
I was super duper athletic, like I have coaches to
this day, but man, you were one of the most
gifted athletes I've ever coached, like I could do just
about anything I felt like as a young man. But
the reason why I didn't play my rookie season in Seattle,
in my freshman season and it're in because I couldn't

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get over the mental part of it. Like I was
just an athlete out there just running around and you throw.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
The ball up.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
I was playing backyard foot. You throw the ball up,
I'm gonna go get it. That's it.

Speaker 11 (27:19):
Like now, knowing plays and route depths and where I
fit into the play.

Speaker 6 (27:23):
That took some time.

Speaker 11 (27:25):
But once I got that in addition to my athleticism,
that's when I became like dangerous in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
When you got to the NFL, the speed of the game,
did it feel similar to going high school to college
or was it so much more significant in college to
pro just seeing the other guys faster.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
Yeah, the pro level is it's no joke. It's cutthroat.

Speaker 11 (27:47):
You're seeing we get Pete Carroll his first year there,
New GM Schnyder first year there, and as a rookie,
I'm seeing guys from the moment I get in, Guys
are coming in, are being cut Guys are coming in
guys been cut. I mean I think that year long
we had over like two hundred transactions of guys just
coming in. I'm first round is getting cut, second round

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is getting cut. Bringing in every person who ever come
from USC to give them a chance.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
And it was like, this is the NFL.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
What like adult adult men too, Like adult adult like
full beards, like thirtye year old men.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
You got grown men who are trying to feed their families. Period.

Speaker 11 (28:25):
There's no scholarship, Like, you better show up, show out,
and you got a leash. If you're like a first, second, third,
fourth rounder, they'll be somewhat patient with you.

Speaker 6 (28:34):
But after that you might not get a single rep
all week.

Speaker 11 (28:38):
And they throw you into the game and they expect
you to know your assignment, performing at high level, and
if you don't, you might get cut. They don't think
the NFL does not feel sorry for you or anyone else.
The show must go on.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
When you leave your junior year at Notre Dame and
you get in the draft, where did you feel like
you would go in the draft? Because you end up
going in the second round? Right, yes, where did where
did you think you would go? Did you was there
a play that you thought you would go in in
what spot did you feel like was numerically would be
the best and worst situation? Did you think on the
end of the first we were agent saying that at all.

Speaker 11 (29:10):
Yeah, So I was told into the first round, possibly
up to maybe halfway through the second round, depending on
who's available, what teams need. But I'm sitting pretty good
this year. I'm coming out my junior season. I just
won the blittan A cough which is the best receiver
in college football. I put up on record setting numbers essentially, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Like sixteen hundred yards. Yeah, yeah, I mean, was it easy?
Was that year easy?

Speaker 11 (29:38):
It kinda because, like we were always down and so
you always had to air it out when we had
Jimmy Clausta just throwing that thing up and like me
and Mike Floyd just running deep, catching balls over whoever.
It didn't matter, just throw it to us. We're gonna
find a way. And so it was fun and easy.
But I remember Draft night. I mean, I got, you know, I'm.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
Rocking to shape. I've had this point.

Speaker 11 (30:00):
I got a nice outfit, a nice suit on, and
we rent out this whole like hotel downtown.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
I can't Eve remember the name of it.

Speaker 11 (30:07):
I got all my homies, my belitting the call forward,
and I sit there for you know, I kind of
knew I wasn't going top fifteen or top twenty or
really even top twenty five. I'm like, all right, the
end of it is going to be where I go. Well,
I don't get drafted in the first round, so look, ay, cool, begainning.
You know, I'm maybe six seven, eight picks into the
second round, I'm gone. And the reason why I thought
that was because coach Charlie Whiss has just been fired

(30:30):
from Notre Dame and went over to Kansas City and
they had two picks in the first ten picks of
the second round, and my meetings they said like, hey,
if you're there, we really want you. And Coach Whis said, hey,
I'm pulling for you obviously, I've seen you. You fit
in great in this office. So I'm just up there like, yep,
all right, day two it's one. I won't be here
for very long. And they get to the first pick

(30:53):
of the second round in Kansas City. I think they
take like Dexter mccluster out of Ole Miss like the.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Back I'll watch it.

Speaker 11 (31:00):
My hybrid yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm like, no, the
they did not. But then in my mind like, all right,
well they got another pick in like four picks or
six picks or something like that, so surely they're gonna
pick me then, right, I don't even know who they picked,
but they did not pick me, and I'm just like,
you've lied to me, you betrayed me. And so I

(31:23):
sit there like you go from like, so crap. Now
you're starting to look on your phone, and now every
time your phone rings You're like, oh gosh.

Speaker 5 (31:31):
Just my buddy, telemarketer, telemarket why are you calling me?

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Dude?

Speaker 11 (31:37):
Like and eventually, like I think it was it was
like a two six number is either two of six
or four two five?

Speaker 6 (31:42):
And I'm like, he was this, where is this? Hey?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
This is uh?

Speaker 6 (31:47):
Pete Carroll's like what you want?

Speaker 12 (31:48):
Man?

Speaker 6 (31:48):
You had that ce.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
You know.

Speaker 11 (31:50):
I'm the head coach at Seattle Seahawks, and I remember
what you did to us a few months ago. Every
year you were impossible guard, and so I would love
for you to join our team. And I'm like, oh, okay, yeah,
I'd love to. And so they ended up drafting and
my next question is where the hell is Washington.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
Is that like DC? And so I'm like, where is
Washington because it.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Was never like I thought you would go there. No,
Like they never had reached out, no.

Speaker 11 (32:18):
Meetings, yeah, no workouts at the combat nothing and they
draft me. And that was the best possible situation for
me period. If I can do it all over again,
I would not do it a single different way. Like
having coach Carol as a coach, how patient he was

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with me, what our team did for the city, including
bringing the first ever super Bowl, that.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
Me meeting my wife in that city.

Speaker 11 (32:47):
It couldn't have been more perfect, and it was complete
God playing chess with me, and I'm so thankful for it.

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Were you a fan of the NFL, because it's weird
that you wouldn't know where Seattle was ortography, Dude.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
I get Washington, DC and Washington State makes up too.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Still sometimes to this day.

Speaker 11 (33:04):
I'm a kid at this point, right, I'm like twenty one,
like kind of phones are kind of starting to be,
you know, big time, But you know I didn't have
an iPhone where you just hop on the app and like,
what the way this is? Like I'm thinking I'm a
Southern kid. Thought I was stay in the South for
the rest of my life, and then I get shipped
off to the Midwest, where I didn't even know what

(33:25):
the Midwest was. Jeff Fairy NFL team the Titans. Yeah,
I mean the Titans a hometown team. I still cry
to this day, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
But it was like the year Hawks were I mean,
we didn't have NFL Sunday tickets then, so you really
just watch Seahawk games.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
I had a poster with all the teams on it.
That's kind of how I knew. Little helmets there's helmets.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
Yeah, a machine.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
So you go to Seattle at least, I mean, it rains,
doesn't really rain a lot there.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
You know.

Speaker 11 (33:52):
To me, what I remember, it was a constant like
drizzle like nothing that like, it was never raining so
much as even huddles out there, just like a light
drizzle and always gray. And I remember there was a
time where I would go into work it would be dark.
I would get out of work it'd be dark, and
that is kind of depressing. But the off season I

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would just I learned my girlfriend at the time, my wife,
kind of taught me how to snowboard.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
So he stayed up there. Yeah, you made that home home.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
Yeah, yeah. I mean I didn't have money like that
to be having more places, but we.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
All think you do.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
You mean the NFL, we think everybody has one hundred
million dollars.

Speaker 5 (34:27):
So I've always thought, like, when you get drafted, it's like, oh,
this is it payday?

Speaker 6 (34:31):
Is that not the case?

Speaker 11 (34:32):
You play the game to get that second pay day,
That second pay day, if you do it right, that's
the one that sets you up, hopefully for life and
even digs into generations.

Speaker 6 (34:41):
If you do it correctly.

Speaker 11 (34:42):
And so you know, yes, when I was drafted, it
was a whole bunch of money. I'm like, oh, okay,
I can kind of get whatever I want and not
really have to think about it. But I was also
one of those guys like, man, I got a plan
for only the guarantee and if something happens, God forbids,
I need to plan to have something to fall back
on where I don't have to work right away, And
so trying to find out what investment makes sense, who

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to trust, who not to trust, Like this is a
lot for a kid who grew up in the hood
that all of a sudden has all this money. When
I got into the league, I didn't even know how
to write a check, let alone taxes. I thought, okay,
I just I'm getting three million dollars. I'm getting three
million dollars and then after that you're going to take
the few percents for the agent and then your financial advisor.
I'm gonna auto pay my rent, and like it's not

(35:28):
really a lot of money where it's like, okay, it's
five hundred bucks here, one thousand dollars here. But when
you look at it over a year spent you like.

Speaker 6 (35:38):
Gonna spend how much.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Were you taking care of yourself?

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Like Lebron like definitely different, and technology is different, and
like what we even know about our bodies is different
in the past ten years, you know, it has progressed
so much. But you know, even Derrick Henry, like they
spend a lot of money to keep their bodies right.
What was your routine like were you, like, what what
did you do to stay healthy? Like we spend the
money on Massusa's they have those of the facility.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Were you doing like chef like food or did you
do start doing that later once you realized how I Portland.

Speaker 6 (36:10):
Was, I started doing it later.

Speaker 11 (36:12):
I was getting massages early on because the older guys
are getting massages, and I tried not to be super
hard hitted, and I did some of the things, but
obviously late in the season you just kind of like,
I'd rather just sleep and resp But I always took
care of my body. But as you get older, you
feel your body changed, and you feel that you can't
do things as easily as you did when you were

(36:33):
twenty one twenty two.

Speaker 6 (36:34):
You start feeling like, Okay, when.

Speaker 11 (36:37):
I was my first few years in the league, I
could play a game on Sunday, and no matter how
many times I got hit, attack, I woke up next morning.
I feel like I can play another game. Now I
get to your five six seven. Now it's taking me
until Wednesday morning to pretty much get right, and I
gotta get massages, acupuncture, nad drips, hydration drips, ozone therapy

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just to be able to practice on Wednesday and Thursday
and have myself back before, you know, hopefully by Saturday.
So I'm going in a Sunday confident, feeling like I
mentally have clarity.

Speaker 6 (37:11):
Physically, I feel good, and you're just kind of hoping.

Speaker 11 (37:15):
So you start adding and taking things away each each
year you realize, all right, well, I don't need this
as much, so I'm going to take that out substitute this,
And so you just had to mix and match.

Speaker 6 (37:26):
And you know it used to kill me. Man. Guys,
guys in the locker room would.

Speaker 11 (37:32):
Spend money playing talk and playing bu Ray, which is
the games, and going to the casino. But then I
would have like a an art guy or Masseu's come
in that was you know, highly known, and they you know,
weeks before the Yeah, I'll be them there, and then
it come to day of Oh bro, it's too expensive.
But I just saw you play that entire hand right

(37:53):
there on the game of Tonk that you played stupid
at that what do you what do you mean? And
so then I was like that was fun, yeah, right,
like for that two seconds. And then guess who gets
stuck with the bill. It was supposed to be split,
you know, fifteen twenty ways, but then you have three, four,
five guys and it goes from like five hundred dollars
ahead till now it's a thousand. But yeah, I thought

(38:13):
you said it was five hundred. Well I also thought X,
Y and Z gonna be there, but they bounced last minute.
So I used to piss me off. But you gotta
kind of pick and choose, like when you're gonna complain
to your teammates.

Speaker 6 (38:26):
I'd be like, it's all good, bro, I'm no og.

Speaker 11 (38:29):
You know I signed this deal, so the optics of it,
I should just pick it up all them like man punks.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
When you go up your first year and you go
from your playbook at Notre Dame to your playbook with Seattle,
and I'm just thinking playbook, Like they literally give you
a book.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Is that what happened to bind her?

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Is it?

Speaker 1 (38:46):
How much more in depth is it than what you
came from to what you went to?

Speaker 11 (38:51):
It's so much in depth, much more depth. And when
I got into Notre Dame because I was I was
recruited as a running back out of high school. At
high school, and then when I got to Notre Dame,
coach twice noticed that I was only watching the receivers
and I don't know why, but I just my ragislim receivers.
And so he says, hey, I saw you watching the

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war receivers, so I'm willing to recruit you as a
wide receiver. That's fine, I said, Okay, great, awesome. Didn't
even cross my mind.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
You would open to the change.

Speaker 11 (39:20):
Yeah, well, I kind of saw myself as a receiver anyway.
My dad was a receiver, and you know, I'm a
five to ten, one ninety guy. Too many of us
running the running the ball, but.

Speaker 6 (39:32):
The playbook man. Going from running back to receiver, it
is so tough.

Speaker 11 (39:37):
I think being a receiver is one of the toughest
transitions in football, especially when you get trade it, because
not only do you have to know your route and
the combination, but you have to know both sides of
the ball, like the left side and the right side.

Speaker 6 (39:52):
We're in two minute offense.

Speaker 11 (39:53):
You got to understand like if they run this coverage,
this route turns into this, or if they run this coverage,
you have to get the outside release because if you don't,
you're gonna blow up the guy that you're you know,
running the route force. You got to understand a whole
bunch and on top of that, you got to build
a camarade of the of the quarterback.

Speaker 6 (40:12):
And on top of that, you.

Speaker 11 (40:12):
Gottaly on the off its linemen to hold up well
enough so the ball can get to you. So like
I struggled my freshman year, and then I struggled again
my rookie and sophomore season. But then once it clicked
and I figured it out, Oh football became fun.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Man See, I think my frustration would be running around
and not getting the ball thrown to me, because like
I'm a I'm a type A have to be in
this industry. I'm a type A. I need the attention,
I need the mic, I need whatever it is. And
I feel like if I'm the guy and I'm going
out and over and over again, I'm running these routes
as hard as it possibly can and the ball is

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not coming to me, I feel like I would be
personally offended. It would bother me because and then I
would just stop thinking it was ever coming to me.
They'd to reach a point where like I'm never getting
the freaking ball.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Can you say something like who you tell?

Speaker 11 (41:01):
When you're young, you just kind of got you got
to shut up and just let the film speak because
the Iron of Scots literally everything everything, So you kind
of had to just play and like do your job
like it was for a greater good. But coming out
of high school where I was the guy every like
you needed something.

Speaker 6 (41:22):
I'm punting the ball. I can throw the ball, I
can catch the ball.

Speaker 11 (41:25):
I'm running the ball. I'm the point turning on the
caick re turner. I'm used to like the offense being
around me, and then you get to Notre Dame. It's
not that way, but eventually becomes kind of that way
because I was the best, one of the best players
on the team, and then you get to the league
and it's nothing like that.

Speaker 6 (41:40):
You have to do a job.

Speaker 11 (41:41):
You have to like run this route in order for
the concept to work correctly, because you're gonna get coverages
where like I'm running a cover one route, but we
get covered two, which makes my route dead. But I
need to do a job to open it up for
the spot route inside or whatever the route is for them.

Speaker 6 (41:58):
And so understand the big picture sure is key.

Speaker 11 (42:01):
And that's why I think being a receiver you really
do have to be smart, and you have to be
smart quick, Like you have to make these decisions to
go inside or outside before you really even get to
think about it.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
And so like that's what makes it hard. And like
I took a lot of pride.

Speaker 11 (42:15):
And knowing knowing what I was supposed to do, figuring
out where the hole was and also making making plays.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, I would be really frustrated.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
I'd go back to huddle, have to cut. Well, you
have a helmet on, you know what you done with
the ball. But you can but if you have if
you're playing baseball, you can see your mouth basketball, you
know you can see that.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Put a helmet on, Like I will go back to huddle,
like the ball, I'm open. You ever go back, like
throw me the ball?

Speaker 11 (42:42):
Oh yeah, I actually got putting time out if you will,
one of my my last season with New York. But
as a receiver, we always think we're open. Like I
would see myself on camera, I'm open, I'm open. There's
a there's a there's a DV right here on me,
waiting on the throat.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
I'm like, I'm open.

Speaker 6 (43:03):
And then you watch the film. But we're in We're
in COVID year.

Speaker 11 (43:08):
We got Joseph Judge, a Patriots descendant, and uh, I
wasn't getting the ball as.

Speaker 6 (43:15):
Much as I probably should have. Actually I know I
wouldn't getting the ball, and.

Speaker 11 (43:19):
We sucked, and I you know, I can deal with sucking,
but statistically succeeding or not statistically succeeding and winning, but
I can't do I can't suck and be losing. I
have an attitude, and so we're down by I don't
know fourteen the Tampa Bay at home COVID year, no fans,

(43:39):
that sucks to and they finally throw me the ball
in the back of the end zone and I go
up and make a hell of a catch, get my
feet down, and I'm like pissed at this point, like
I've been waiting all game, like throw me the dang ball.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Who's the quarterback?

Speaker 11 (43:54):
It was Daniel Jones, Dang Jones, And I remember looking
to looking into the camera and was like, throw me
the damn ball. And then I said it again like
later after a catch. And between those two things and
me getting into the locker room pissed, like hey, d
you'll knocking you loze me, trade me, Like why am
I here? You're paying me all this money to not

(44:15):
even utilize me. And on top of that, my wife
going on Instagram putting it all over her story, like
pointing out when I'm opening the ball.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
And so I get a call.

Speaker 11 (44:26):
I get a call the next morning from Joe Judge.
I'm like, hell yeah, he gonna he he gonna see
what I see. And he's he's gonna, you know, throw
me the ball. We're about to play Washington Redskins at
this point. Now the Commandos is what I call him,
and they're like the fl They're probably worst human league.

Speaker 6 (44:48):
At this point. This complete dumpster fire. And I'm like,
Joe Joe.

Speaker 11 (44:54):
Judge calls me there and said, hey, why don't you
just take a week off and like go home and
we're not gonna to play you.

Speaker 6 (45:00):
Like what you did was unacceptable. I'm like.

Speaker 11 (45:04):
Huh, and he's like, you know, you can't act like that.
You yelled at someone in the locker room and then
you yelled into the camera.

Speaker 6 (45:14):
And I'm like, so you're you're suspending me right now.

Speaker 11 (45:19):
And then so I go I call my agent and
he's like, hey, just take the week off and come
back next week and then we're gonna refocus.

Speaker 6 (45:25):
And get you the ball.

Speaker 11 (45:27):
I'm like, I go home and I call my agent, like, dude,
they just suspended me for this. Joju circles back and says, hey,
we actually change my mind. We want you to come
in to practice and we're gonna put your own scout team.
As a year eleven veteran, I'm gonna put your own
scout team. And then we'll make a decision at the
end of the week. And I'm like, okay, you know

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what I'm gonna I'm a practice ability right now. Okay,
I'm a practicingmility. I'm not gonna snap, and I'm gonna
be the good eleven year vet that I should be.
And so I go out there and run scout team
and absolutely torch.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
You did go run Scott team.

Speaker 11 (46:03):
Yes, I torched our defense as they're preparing for Washington.
I'm to my I was going deep, jumping over people,
spinning the ball, looking at Joe Judge like, yes, this
is what I'm capable of do.

Speaker 6 (46:14):
But y'all don't throw.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Me the ball.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Why do you think you didn't want to get you
the ball? Do you not understand what you like? In
what ways you excelled? Why was Joe Judge not allowing
you to thrive?

Speaker 11 (46:26):
I don't know, and I don't know if it was
Joe Judge or if it was Jason Garrett, who was
the offensive coordinator. Yes, I don't know. I don't know,
and I wish I knew the answer because we weren't
very good. What did you have to lose besides give
the guy who's been performing his entire career, some burne. Instead,

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we're throwing the guys. We're making game plans for guys
who dropped the ball weekly. I'm like, what's going on?
You guess something against me? I mean, anyway, so I
dominate them in practice. Get to Friday where he's like,
we have a decision by Friday. I obviously know the
offense because I've been running it every week and I'm

(47:09):
a professional. And he still says, Hey, you know what,
We're gonna roll with the guys who've been practicing all
week and we're going to you know, you just stay
back at home, come back ready to go that Monday,
and we're gonna we promise you we're gonna get you involved.
I'm like, are you freaking serious? We go out there
or I guess they go out there and win the game,

(47:30):
which is shit. It's the Washington Do you watch it
on TV?

Speaker 6 (47:34):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (47:34):
I watch it and I'm on airs like I'm like
biting my fingernails. I'm like cursing myself out, cursing anyone
in the organization out.

Speaker 6 (47:44):
I'm like mentally and I'm just I'm pissed. I get
back in.

Speaker 11 (47:49):
And being the professional that I am I go and
back to back to business as usual. I have a
fun you know, I have a better season. We still suck,
and at this point I have two more years of
my contract. And we get to the end of year
meetings and we're sitting in the environment like this, and
Joseph Judge is like, I really appreciate how you responded
and how you handled after that situation earlier this year,

(48:12):
and if it's up to me, like, we're gonna have
you here, We're gonna build, build on and we're gonna
find ways to get you the ball and so on
and so forth. And I'm like, oh, great, good okay,
I'm glad I didn't I wasn't an asshole.

Speaker 6 (48:26):
I mean, it's good man.

Speaker 11 (48:29):
Three weeks later, Hey, gold, this is Dave Bieedelman. You know,
we just want to let you know that we're gonna
release you, and good luck and thank you for everything
you do. And Joe gets on the phone like he
didn't just tell me all this bs, and he's like, hey,
you know, thank you, I really appreciate how you hanging
yourself as a pro, and good luck with everything. And

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I'm like, what in the flying I'm pissed. I'm pissed anyway.
So that's kind of how it all ended for me.
How is your body at that point?

Speaker 2 (49:01):
And how's your body now? Like you hurt now?

Speaker 6 (49:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (49:05):
Oh yeah, if it's called joints, everything hurts, okay. So
here's so I go through my disability stuff and it's
a point system. You get eleven points based off different
injuries that you have, and I've got eleven points and
flying colors. I was probably more twenty seven points. And
so I go into the doctor because I've always had
neck issues. I'm like, you know, I'm having all these

(49:29):
issues with my neck and then like they tell me
see four C five or like that.

Speaker 6 (49:33):
And the doctor says, mister Tate, so how old are you?

Speaker 11 (49:36):
And I say, I'm I think I'm about thirty four
at this point, thirty three at this point He's like, well,
you have a seventy four year old neck?

Speaker 4 (49:45):
What?

Speaker 6 (49:47):
But I mean, I can't be good.

Speaker 11 (49:48):
It's like you don't need surgery yet, but like everything's
just worn down, which is expected from playing football contact sport.
But I'm like a seventy four year old neck and
I'm only thirty mid thirties. And that was kind of
that moment. Like, whoa, this is what I signed up for,
and now I got arthritis and my left big toe.
I got in your toe, Yeah, my left big toe.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Man, it's like you can't move it at all.

Speaker 6 (50:12):
Like I can't move it at her. It hurts.

Speaker 11 (50:13):
I feel like I need to pop it all the time.
I got bone spurs at the top of it. I
obviously have neck and shoulder issues. Like I took a
lot of pride of staying out of the training room
and being available and healthy. One time I played, I
played through a Grade three AC joint spring, which is

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pretty much a separation to the point where like it
sticks up right now.

Speaker 6 (50:38):
I didn't miss a single it was it was a
four to six week injury. I didn't miss a game.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
With intent on just showing up and being the professional.
Or if you miss a game, somebody may take the spot.

Speaker 6 (50:52):
It was probably. It was probably everything, Like I didn't
want anyone taking my reps.

Speaker 11 (50:56):
I loved the game so much. It was my contract year.
I felt like we could make the playoffs. I was
Stafford's like number one receiver. It was middle of the
season and I was like, I'm not giving them any
reason not to want to pay me.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Do you hide that injury or do you do they
just know you're playing hurt.

Speaker 6 (51:16):
Although X rays said it's.

Speaker 11 (51:19):
It's jacked, like you don't need We're going to see
Howard heels, but you don't need surgery.

Speaker 6 (51:25):
And so I reb happened going into our bay.

Speaker 11 (51:27):
So I had a week of like until I just
trying to grind it out, get it strong, do whatever
I need to do, rehab twice a day. I'm just
doing it all and I'm able to like lift my
shoulder up and catch balls with a lot of pain.
But they shot it up, they numbed it. They numbed
it for every game, and so for the rest of season,

(51:49):
I just numbed it up and dealt with it. And
still I think I either had a thousand yards or
I was like a twenty yards shy of a thousand yards.

Speaker 6 (51:57):
But I played and a year later or something like that,
two years later, I end up getting traded.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
How do you deal now? Because you play picktball?

Speaker 6 (52:06):
Yeah, I saw the court out there.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Yeah, yeah, I played a little bit, but like that's
that's a lot of stopping go especially playing singles, like
can you still move?

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (52:17):
I mean I assume you can't. But does it hurt?
It's to man, I'm saying all those injuries feel like
that would keep me from being prime pickaball.

Speaker 6 (52:25):
You know, Yeah, it does hurt, and I feel limited
at times.

Speaker 11 (52:29):
But as a football player, you've been taught that no pain,
no game right like I've been If I don't if
I'm not hurting somewhere, I'm not doing anything.

Speaker 6 (52:41):
I'm not doing something right.

Speaker 11 (52:42):
And I've told myself over years and years and years that,
and now I'm starting to realize, like, wait a minute,
I'm not even playing football or anything that's significantly as
hard as football.

Speaker 6 (52:54):
Why am I still aching in pains?

Speaker 11 (52:55):
And it's like the less I work out, the more
these pains start stacking up.

Speaker 6 (53:00):
I'm like, man, I where is my other knee hurting?

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Like what?

Speaker 11 (53:04):
But it's not gonna stop me. I refuse to just
sit on my tail and not do anything because I
am an athlete and I have my on my worst
days is when I don't get to go play golf
or play pick a ball or do something competitive like.

Speaker 6 (53:18):
I am a born competitor and.

Speaker 11 (53:20):
I believe God gifted me with a lot of athleticism
and I will use every single drop of the athleticism,
even if that means I'm in pain during it.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
I wish I could buy some of it, Like I
only got rich recently, and I wish I could buy
some of it because I like like, I wish I
was an athlete, like I try, I would try my
whole life. But I like I because you're a little
too injured to use all of it right.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Effectively, Like he's got all these injuries. I have a
little bit of that. I like, Scoop some final three questions, Eddie,
what do you miss the most about the game?

Speaker 11 (53:49):
Definitely the locker room, like the brotherhood of it being
in one place with the same goal of winning and
putting in the same amount of work, and the reward
of winning and the dinners that the blood, sweat and
tears all that. It's like, you got a bunch of
guys with so much in common. How we got here,

(54:13):
it's pretty similar. We all went to some school, we
all got drafted or undrafted, we're all we all got
there some way, and it's you have so many similarities
and backgrounds and then you don't have anymore. Man, I
just I long for like that sense of community, especially
after like COVID, like having to be stuck in the

(54:33):
house go to work. I couldn't tap up my homie.
I had to be just like hey man with the
mask and I can't readlip. You know, it's it's a disaster.
It made me really appreciate relationships a lot more, and
like that's probably what I missed the absolute most. And like,
I'm constantly looking for a way to have that camaraderie

(54:53):
and so I found that with golf and pickleball at times.

Speaker 6 (54:58):
And yeah, we can be your dudes.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Yeah well, yeah, well we'll come road. Two questions left.
Who was your favorite quarterback to play with Matthew Stafford
to be happy when he won?

Speaker 11 (55:10):
Heck yeah, so I wasn't playing at this point, so
I was able to like gamble as soon as he
got traded. Oh yeah, that's a whole another area. Yeah, yeah, yea,
yeahs come on yeah the jener night. Yes, it was
Matthew Stafford. The moment he got traded one, I gave

(55:31):
him a call, Hey, buddy, I'm a free agent, bring
me on over. It didn't work out, obviously, but the
moment he walked into LA I went and put a
bet the Rams were winning super Bowl like week one
or week two for like I don't know, one hundred
bucks and it paid out like fifty hundred bucks.

Speaker 6 (55:50):
Yeah, I felt like a genius.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
You bet at the beginning of the year. It wasn't
like you bet at the super Bowl. You bet it
because you felt like Staffing.

Speaker 6 (55:55):
I knew Stafford.

Speaker 11 (55:56):
I knew that if he was just in a better situation,
that that man thrive, Like look at what he'd done
in Detroit with not much around him and me had Megatron,
but besides that, like he was a one man band,
and so like I just knew like how talent he was,
and people used to think I was. They would ask
me the same question and I said, Matthew Stafford, and
they look at me like what not not not Russell Wilson,

(56:20):
not even close? Who you want a super Bowl with? Yes,
not even close. Like Russell is and was good and
could throw a great deep ball. But the things that
Stafford was doing was next level. And so I went
from like this, Golden Tate has no clue about football.
He's an idiot, So like, oh shit, Golden Tate might

(56:41):
know what he's talking about. Because Stafford goes there after
one year, one year wins the super Bowl. That's only
happened like once more with Tom Brady. Ever where you go,
you leave the team you've been went for decades, go
to a new team and win the super Bowl. That
first year didn't happen, and so suddenly people like, Okay, yeah,

(57:03):
Staff's really good.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Final question week one to week two, because that's where
we are now, is we're having this conversation. Are there
times where you don't quite know what your team is
until week one? Or when do you kind of learn
your identity as a team, like if you're actually gonna
be good or.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
As a fan or now as a player?

Speaker 1 (57:20):
A good question because like the Panthers, they had one
hundred squored on them, like do they are they all like, well,
we really do suck? Or does it take a few weeks?
Because there were some teams that had bad week ones
that can actually figure.

Speaker 10 (57:31):
It out.

Speaker 11 (57:33):
These teams that get blown out. I think the gap
is a lot closer than fans can see. And like
you believe no matter who you have, that you can
beat any team on any given day.

Speaker 6 (57:45):
Now the question is can you consistently do that? And
that's the mentality.

Speaker 11 (57:49):
A bunch of intangibles kind of coming together in tangibles
and a team like.

Speaker 6 (57:56):
A team like Carolina, they're just fighting an uphill battle.

Speaker 11 (58:00):
They got, you know, new head coach which coached me,
and I believe in him Canalis.

Speaker 6 (58:07):
But to me, the quarterback situation is a little bit.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
You know, but.

Speaker 11 (58:14):
They're going to beat some people this year that you
probably thought they never in a million years should beat.
But that's just the NFL, right, And so I wouldn't
bet on them to go to super Bowl or anything.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
How many weeks until a team knows its identity or
how good they're supposed to be. Kent City obviously knows
they've want to in a row, But like with Detroit
going into every year where you're like, we kind of
know how good we are. We're a ten and sixteen,
we're a twelve and four team, or every year is
there just is it kind of soft and you kind
of figured out.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
As you go.

Speaker 11 (58:46):
You kind of figured out as you go in Like
but every game you look at it like, man, we
should have won thatf we can have Usually it's probably
within five to eight plays back you feel like you
probably would have won that game. And so when I
got to when I got to Detroit, it's almost like
we had a losing mentality. We were hoping we were
gonna win instead of expecting to win. When I was

(59:07):
in Seattle we played at CenturyLink, we were winning.

Speaker 6 (59:11):
We knew we were gonna win.

Speaker 11 (59:12):
As a matter of if it was thirty six nothing
at halftime, we was gonna win. We did not lose
at home. And when I got to Detroit, it was
just like, all right, I hope we win this week
and said, nah, man, go get it, like let's go
get in. So we started to change in mentality. And
then now now Detroit expects to win. They know that

(59:32):
they're going to win, and if they don't win, it's
something that they did, nothing that the opponent did.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
And now we also expected to win.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
The last level of confidence, like they thought they think
they might win, then they think they should win. Now
we think they should win because they've showed us over
and over again that they should win.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Absolutely, we were really appreciate coming. Bye.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Man, that's awesome my pleasure. Yeah, I feel like my
big toe would really significantly bother me more than ever
thought about it. I was the whole ti the whole
time he's talking, I'm thinking how much he's my big toe.
I think more than I actually realized. I used my
big toe a lot. That's all I've taken from this
that my big toe is actually quite important because the
whole time I've been pushing my big toe like thinking
of stuff I do, and I'm like, man, that sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Yeah, I just pay attention.

Speaker 11 (01:00:14):
When you walk around, like when you take every step,
it's gonna end. It's gonna start with like right here
on your big toe.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
A turf toe is so bad. Yes, what is turf toe?

Speaker 6 (01:00:24):
It's like a it's hell, I don't even know what
technically happens.

Speaker 11 (01:00:29):
It's like the ligament gets super super super super stretched
and it's I guess it's like that spraining on the toe.
But literally life starts on that toe right when you
hit the bed, it hits the ground in the morning,
big toe. When I take my step with my left
and my right big toe is pushing off when I run.

Speaker 6 (01:00:49):
Obviously big toe.

Speaker 11 (01:00:52):
And so I got arthritis in my left one but
my right when I had a broken sessimoire that I
played on for two years. They went into it eventually
and saw that the thing was split and the bone
was bad. And so they took it out like after
I played on it for two years and I'm like, gosh,
I'm thinking, this is what our fartis feels like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Nope, I feel like a big toe injury for an
athlete because it's so significant as like a ulcer in
my mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Oh, it sits there every time I talk.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
Yeah, it rubs against your basically the same NFL player
for the foot injury as me with like a little
cut in my lip.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Exactly the same thing. Yeah, all we appreciate you coming
by man.

Speaker 6 (01:01:32):
Thanks a lot. Pleasure, Pleasure Braves.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
First baseman Matt Olson shows up to Fork every day.
He's in line to play a four hundred and seventy
seven consecutive game as a first baseman. Thattle time with
Pete Rose for the longest streak of games played at
first base in the last eighty years, and if he
passes Rose, he'll have the second longest streak since lou Garig,
behind only Frank McCormick of the Reds, who had six
hundred and fifty two games in a row of first base.

(01:01:56):
You take pride in in like showing up at were
I don't know is that a thing because that's perfect
attendance in school for a bunch of years.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
It's good, like because even if you're sick, you come
and you know, you fight through everything.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
That's it's good stuff. Perfect attendance is good.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
But I'm asking you, did was that important to you?

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:02:14):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
No, no.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
Sometimes I'd fake sick and not go in. Yeah, but
as a parent, I want my you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
No, I was terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
How many days a Yeah, And to be fair to.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
My dad would always say, like just calling sick, it's fine,
call on sick, Like that's just the kind of guy
he was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
So how many days of school year do you think
you'd miss?

Speaker 5 (01:02:33):
I would probably miss two times a month. Oh a month, Yeah,
a Friday because we're going to go on a trip
or something nice.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
So a year, so let's say eight nine months, So
you miss about eighteen days a year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
It's about right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Wow, that's a lot significant.

Speaker 6 (01:02:47):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I'd probably average about a day and a half a
year through twelve years. Because I'm I had perfect tendance
for a few years, thirty four years. I would sometimes
I get so sick i'd have to miss a day
or two. But I rarely miss I rarely miss work.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
I'm dead. Did you like school?

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Not particularly?

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
No, I didn't like school.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Someone like school either, but I saw it as a means,
not so much to an end, but to a better beginning,
and I thought, if I can. I also didn't like
being at home, though a home sucked, I get that,
But no, I didn't like school, and I got beat
up a lot until I got older, and only didn't
get beat up because I knew where not to go
was the hallway?

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Kevin, Wyt'd you bring that up?

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Yeah? So I just wonder where you guys are, how
you guys fell in? Like school? Read you if I
remotely had a coll for a sniff, I was staying home.

Speaker 7 (01:03:37):
We'll be working out, and read has excuses or a
bad salmon.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
The last samon, No spicy tacos, taco yesterday, it's not
my spicy tacos.

Speaker 7 (01:03:49):
Do that before you worked out?

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
No, it was the night before. I was saying, I
have he's right before I work out, just have an
excuse from the tacos.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
He's always got some.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Little Dan, Kevin, how are you?

Speaker 7 (01:04:03):
I was okay.

Speaker 8 (01:04:04):
I mean, I definitely miss some, for sure, but I
did not miss eighteen days a year. There was one
day every year I missed. It was a Monday after
the Super Bowl. My parents let me skip that out.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
Nice, So that was nice.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
That's good parents.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Yeah, yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:04:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:04:15):
Could we celebrating throw parties?

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Casey.

Speaker 10 (01:04:18):
My mom was pretty strict, so I had to go
in even if if I didn't feel so great.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
Do you ever get perfect sentence?

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
No, I mean, I mean, like a ninety five percent
they are there.

Speaker 6 (01:04:28):
But yeah, that's good.

Speaker 10 (01:04:29):
I had to push through usually and then get any
excuses sucked.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
We're about to talk with head coach of UNLV football,
Barry Otam, who I've known coach otom now for.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Seven or eight years. Loved him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
I got to know him when he was the defensive
coordinated Arkansas before he went over and took the UNLV job.

Speaker 6 (01:04:48):
So like, this is my guy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
I'm biased, but I'm also super excited that they are
three and oh a little background on coach otom played
at Missouri, was head coach at Missouri for a while.
That didn't go as great as I think that he
probably would have hoped for if you asked me for
reasons that did not have to do with him. But
then went worked his way back. Decordinator Arkansas decordinator, UNLV

(01:05:13):
head coach, and he's just he's killing it. They beat
Houston week one, you taw Tech week two.

Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
That was a bad one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
That was like seventy two to fourteen. Just beat Kansas,
just weird because we know we like Kansas, because you know,
Kansas was a we had, we'd like the coach, you know,
coach coach coach Lighthold rights. Like I said, I was
saying his name wrong. I was saying his name wrong forever.
So but but I'm I'm definitely an odum guy. Uh

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So it's the first three and I was starting forty years.
They're nationally ranked for the first time ever, and the
coach is well ever, it's it's wild. Uh They are
ranked as a fifth group of five team right now
that could make the college football Playoff because there will
be one that makes it. But right now, if you
know doing the odds, I don't know, there's just killing.

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So we got coach Otamon here he is, Coach Barry
otom all right, Coach Otam'm with us, our hero.

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
Yes, come on, what's up, buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
I have I've never.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Rooted for a single team out west in my entire life,
and now I find myself for two and a half
years now at least just watching you NLV or if
I can't find you, like just watching that little cartoon
that's like three yard game, six yard game, like first time.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
It all started. It all started when when you guys
came in and saw us and visited, Hey, we'll take that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Talking about to take that.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Fend uh started started upward from there. Great to see you, guys, coach,
Good to see you too.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
So I want to know specifically about this Kansas game
going into it. Did you feel like you matched up
well or did you feel like the game went in
the way that you thought it was going to because again,
it was close, but I felt like you guys had
it most of the way.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
Well, you know, it's crazy, Bobby, rarely do you play
somebody in a different conference like we did. You know,
we played Kansas in the bowl game and came up short.
So we felt like we knew their personnel really well
because most of the guys they had in the bowl
game were returning for them. So I felt like, at
least skill set wise, we knew personnel what we were

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going against. And as you know in today's world, how
you can change your roster, I mean overnight, and you
know the way we didn't when I was a head
coach at Missouri, you know, with the nil world and
the transfer portal that didn't exist. So for us, I
look at it every years, how can you build your

(01:07:40):
roster for that season? And we made a lot of
off season changes in our personnel. So I felt like
in some deficiencies that we had last year, we were
able to either recruit or through the transfer world trap
guys that gave us an advantage in the certain situations
where we had some deficiencies last year. So I felt

(01:08:01):
good going into the game about just a physical matchup
on them versus US. And then schematically, I liked what
we were doing in all three phases.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
When you go and you changed, is it two hours
as Vegas two hours difference than us one too? It
is how do you how do you treat that with
your team? Do you get there a couple of days
early if there's a time zone change?

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
You know, for us, we're an early morning team. We
practice in the mornings, We work out in the mornings
just because of the heat for most of the year,
so we're on the field early in the morning. So
I think number one, you have to look at it
for us on what fits your team, and every team's differently,
so an early morning team. But also you look at

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coming off of the week before. We had a Saturday
game and then it was a quick turnaround with a
Friday night game in Kansas City, so the work week
was condensed. So I was really concerned about our players
on the time change, on enough rest, on the things
that needed to do. So we spent a lot of

(01:09:06):
time in the off season really looking at what our
team needed going into this week, specifically for time change,
short schedule, rest, recovery, all the things that go into
that really scientifically, and I think we had a great
plan we went in on just like any other game.
I want to get to the location, the city, whether

(01:09:27):
it's whole or a way. We try to get to
the hotel at five o'clock the day before the game,
and then we lock into our normal routine.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Whenever there's a day shorter than normal, do you cram
in more things per day or will you just not
have the normal day off that you normally have.

Speaker 4 (01:09:44):
Yeah, for us, we move everything up one calendar day,
so I don't know that our players noticed a big
difference on what their days were like. Certainly the staff.
As soon as that game was over on Saturday, we
went work on Kansas and a lot of credit to
our staff, we did so many things in the offseason

(01:10:06):
on for this week just knowing. But also, Bobby, we've
got we've got five Friday night games this year. I mean,
it's so unique on a schedule for us. But also
with that, eleven of our twelve games are on national TV,
so there's a little bit of trade off there, So
you've got to get creative with the schedule on what
that looks like.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
I was watching you guys play Houston week one, and
this is before oh you played Houston, because I watched
that as well. I've accidentally taken it a couple Houston
games and Houston to me is a better team than
I thought they would be. But you guys beat them
as twenty seven to seven. That second game you guys played,
it was one of those games where it was like
seventy to seven. Did you know who you were going
into this Kansas game? Did you know Houston was a

(01:10:46):
quality opponent, because again only two games in, but again
that Utah Tech game was such a blowout, like, do
you even have an identity after that game?

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
No? I mean really after the Houston game, and there
is so much chunk known as you know, going into
week one, and then they had a new coaching staff
and Willie Fritz as their head coach, and they had
sixty something new players on their team compared to last year.
So we spent a lot of time in the off
season trying to piece that together. I thought we played well.
I thought, you know, we left a number of things

(01:11:15):
out on the field against Houston that I thought that
game could have broke open a lot earlier that it did.
And then the next week, I mean, we pulled our
starters at the end of the first quarter. They were done,
and that helped us because it was a short week
and we were they were off the field by one
thirty that day. Our starters were, so yeah, there was

(01:11:35):
still some unknown and I think, you know, we have
made progress every single week on getting a little bit better.
But the great thing is, you know, we're three and zero.
We've got two really good wins against what we feel
like quality opponents, but we haven't even gotten close to
playing our best ball. And that's exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
I'm going to go back to the Houston game just
for a second, because when you see a team that
you played and you play early and again, maybe both
teams that are trying to find their identity as a
football team, especially if they have a new coaching staff.
But then Houston played Oklahoma very close, like the ball
bounce is a different way they win that game. Does
that make you feel a little better about your team
watching a like opponent play another really strong team.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
I think you look at that and as that game
unfolded against Ou, you could see some of the things
that you know, and I'm sure that coach Fritz is
saying the same thing that they left some things out
on the field. I think Houston's going to continue to
get better. They certainly they've got really good coaches and
they've got a roster full of really good athletes, so
I think they'll continue to get better. I think we

(01:12:36):
played well. We won the turnover margin, we were good
in third downs, We did some things in the in
the kicking game that really gave us an advantage. So
you know, I think good on good. We did what
we needed to do to win that game. It's also
good to see. Once you beat a team, if they
can go have success for us, especially in the world

(01:12:58):
of the twelve team playoff, the strength of schedule certainly
is going to help us this year. The more that
Houston or Kansas can go win.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
You said it, so I'll go there. Do you talk
about that with your team?

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
Absolutely? And you know, I never if I'm going to
be in the competitive arena, I want to win and
I want to achieve the highest goal you can achieve.
So we understand we've got to win a Mountain West championship.

Speaker 6 (01:13:21):
We get that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
We also understand now there's hope for most of the
teams out there, there's not anymore after three weeks. But
we're still in the fight. We're still in the arena,
and we know that our margin of area is zero.
So I know the kids and our you know their team.
We hear it, we read it, they see all they're
told the stuff, So why not why not just address

(01:13:43):
it and make it something that we're really working towards.
We've got a mature team, So I'm very very open
and honest with them because I know I would rather
be the voice of reason in the things that they're
navigating through every day than them wondering where I stand
with it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
You have a mature team, you say, and that probably
helps after your real first national splash of press, right,
can you talk to your guys and go I mean
out of the rat poison, like Saban says, I keep
them from eating the rat poison.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
Did you see that? I used that yesterday in my
team meeting. And you know the thing, and it's crazy
because we're just scratching the surface on what unov can be.
I mean, in the last before we got here, the
last forty years, they had averaged three wins a season,
so first time nationally ranked in the program history when
the polls came out on Monday. I mean, all, this

(01:14:37):
is new for a lot of people, but it's not
new for what our expectation and our standards are as
a team. So I've tried to set the stage through
the education piece well before the season started on this
is how it's going to go, this is what we
need to do, and if we take care of our business,
then then the prize gets a little bit larger towards

(01:14:58):
the end of the year. And I mean, we we've
got We've got a beast of a schedule coming up,
we play we have a bye this week, then we
played Fresno, and then we've got Syracuse, who's playing really
well on a Friday night, another short week, they come here.
We've got at Utah State, We've got Boise so there's
so many things, and we go to Oregon State. There's

(01:15:18):
so many things here in the next five weeks that
are are huge for our program on so many levels.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
I would imagine that you look forward to those games
because like a Syracuse, right, they've the quarterback in Ohio
State last year was just throwing the crap out of
the ball. But you for anybody that goes, wow, they're
three and O, they've they've got to win over Kansas.
I mean, you play a couple of other really good
teams and you end up winning the Mountain West and
you have zero on that second half, it's all it's

(01:15:45):
going to be impossible to keep you out like you
need those Syracuse Boise State games, right.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
Absolutely, And we were Bobby, We were very select and
aggressive in how we scheduled our game our non conference
games this year because we knew, you know, we got
to the Mountain West championship game last year and we
came up short. So analytically, I did a lot of
things in the off season on looking okay, projection wise,
if we would have won the Mountain West championship game

(01:16:11):
with our schedule last year, would that gotten us in
the playoffs? And we would have came up a little
bit short last year. So talking to the people that know, okay,
how do we if we get in that position again,
how do we get into those twelve teams? And it
was all down to strength to schedule. So you know,
we went schedule the people that we did, and you
know that can go two different ways, but I'm never

(01:16:33):
going to back down from a challenge. And you also
look at the brand of the Mountain the West historically
over the last at least fifteen years, the champion of
that league, you know, probably should be in contention and
the conversation for a seat at the table of the
twelve team every year.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
My preacher going up on about Thursday, would start to
make notes on what he wanted the sermon to be,
and he'd try not to repeat the sermon even though
it's the same ish message. He'd find different ways to
talk about the same message. And always for him, I
remember talking to him about how we prepare sermons. As
a head football coach, you have the same ish message,
But when do you start working on what you're going
to say like before the game or if you're going

(01:17:11):
to have notes at halftime.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Yeah, I think a lot of that is filled throughout
the week, but every week we'll go into it with
staff input. I have a captain's meeting and leadership meeting
on Monday with a group of players and we talk
about number one. Where my mind is on the message
for the week starting on Monday. I get input from

(01:17:33):
the coach, the assistant coaches, I get input from the
leadership group, and then at some point you start to
form the complete messages of what that is really going
to be, what the team needs to hear, you know.
I try to give those talks throughout the week building
up to the game. I don't know that four minutes

(01:17:55):
before we go out on the field, if they're not
ready to go from a preparation standpoint at at that time,
it really doesn't matter what I say. So there's a
lot I have a team meeting every single day and
we talk. We talk a lot, and you know, the messaging,
the motivation, the situation on where we are, what's going

(01:18:16):
on around us, and it'll get down to our habits
and our preparation and so that that's ongoing. And then
you know, there's a lot of times, as you know,
you get into a situation and you have a gut
feeling as you're talking through those things and and you
and you ride with that. So there's a balance there.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
We were talking to Michael Chandler, the MM a fighter
and he was and it was a bit the opposite
of what I thought. And he was like, when I
go to fight, I don't want to be so pumped up.
I want to actually be extremely calm. And he's like,
there's a fine line, because calm you can think and feel.
Sometimes when you're way too pumped up, you're not thinking

(01:18:59):
because you're drilling so high. Where do you fall in
that pre game? Do you want your players up or
do you do you do you want to chill down?

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
Every everybody, every competitor is so different. My biggest challenge,
and you know, let's rewind a number of years ago
when I was a player and I wasn't very good,
but but this worked for me. I would almost get
in a state after pregame warm up before we went
back on on the field, I would you know, there

(01:19:27):
were times I would fall asleep because you're just visualizing things,
and and so everybody I learned at that point. Everybody's
so different. Some guys need that, but other guys, you know,
I just want them to be in their zone. And
if you prepare the right way. We have we have
game week preparation and then once we get into forty
eight hours before kickoff, we really ratchet it up and

(01:19:49):
we talk about a forty eight hour preparational what that
looks like, and it's the mental side of the game,
it's positive self talk, it's a number of those things
that go along with that. I'm trying to get them
into their rhythm, into the state of the flow, the
flow state of what it looks like for them to
be at their best. And I've learned, you know, the

(01:20:10):
quarterback is different than the mike linebacker, and everybody approaches
it the same way. But if your preparation habits aligned
the way that they should, then when that balls kicked off,
you're going to be in the flow state and ready
to go.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
In helmet communication. How's that been for you guys so far?

Speaker 4 (01:20:28):
It's been amazing and I think, you know, I think
it's enhanced the game. I really do. Fortunately for us,
we had a trial run with it last year in
the bowl game, so that and the tablets on the sideline,
we had a little bit of an advantage going into
this year on what that looked like and what it
was what it was like for us. The thing that
is the challenge, you know, on when the offense comes

(01:20:50):
off the field and you want to sit there and
look at the tablet the whole time instead of coaching
your team and teaching your team, there's a balance on
making sure that it's not only looking at the tablet.
So there's there's been some adjustments with that. I think
the player to coach communication is is is a great
thing for college football. You can you can get really
creative on because you're you've got all this time until

(01:21:13):
the play clock hits fifteen before it shuts out, so
you can make a lot of in game checks, in
play checks before the ball snapped.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
My final three questions, Eddie coach.

Speaker 5 (01:21:23):
You know it's funny now on Sundays we get to
hear Tom Brady, you know, commentate, and of course people
have different opinions on how he did or how he's doing.
But you know, you're knowledgeable of football, You're you know
a lot about it. You think you can get in
the booth, coach and do good at commentating on a game.

Speaker 4 (01:21:39):
I would be I think I would be in a
position to provide a perspective that some can't. You know,
I would would probably be a better sideline reporter than
up in the box. We'd like to move around a
little bit more. Yeah, yeah, all the elements, all the elements.

(01:22:01):
But I think you know, you can pick out things
that maybe the normal fan wouldn't be able to see,
and then they see that and relate to it and like,
oh that makes perfect sense.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Final two questions, What do you say to a kicker?
And I want to give you two scenarios. One that
kicks coming up, they just ye him. He hasn't really missed,
he's kicked pretty well. What do you say to him
before he goes out or maybe it's nothing, Or what
do you say to a kicker that misses a big
kick yet he still has another quarter and a half
of the game left.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
Yeah, as you know, there's so many times that a
game will come down to a field goal. So now
if the other team takes a time out, I remind
them that they can't. Even if they have another time out,
they can't take it because now it's a penalty if
you take back to back time out. So I just
remind him of those things. I want to get him

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time and get away from him and get a couple
of extra practice swings in to visualize the things he
needs to and then I try to be ultra positive
on a give them a point of you've got this,
You've done it a million times, go be who you are.
If they happen to miss one, Okay, you've got to

(01:23:10):
look at was it the snap? Was it the hold?
Was it the protection? Did we miss hit it? Did
we did we not follow through? I want to get
information from the kicker on on the reasons why, because
if we're going to put them out there to kick it,
I've got great, strong conviction that they're going to go
make it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Last question, you've mentioned visualization a few times.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Do you have somebody on staff that works with your
athletes on visualization, that therapist or somebody of any kind.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
Yeah, we've we've got you know this, In college football,
the staffs have exploded, right You've got all these people
different work and we're a little bit different at unob
we're smaller staff, but very efficient and effective on how
we do things organizationally and structurally. I'll spend time with
them on Thursday and talking about that and then you know,

(01:23:59):
by position, coach, we do a lot of those those
trainings in the offseason. We brought somebody in that talked
to them about the performance and what that looked like.
And I think it's working well for us. You know,
there's always room for improvement by all of us, and
our guys have started to embrace that side of it.
They understand how effective it can be for him as
a competitor.

Speaker 1 (01:24:19):
The bell of the ball, and I hope the bell
stays the bell of the ball all year long. Coach,
we love you, We're rooting for you. Congratulations so far
on the early season success. I just love to see
you and lving on like my first page of ESPN
where they feel like the six big stories, like that's
when I'm like, that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
I'm talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:24:36):
So we're rooting for all.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Coach, we love you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
I have a great rest of the day and we'll
talk to you soon.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
Thanks fellos.

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Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Super Bowl odds updated Chiefs are plus four fifty, so
they're still the odds on favorite of the Super Bowl.
Forty nine ers at number two.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
Oh wow, they didn't drop.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
They did a little bit. They didn't drop Spots, Eagles
and Texans after that at three Lions in Buffalo, Bulls right, Ravens.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Yeah, drop them for sure. I would drop them for sure.

Speaker 6 (01:26:31):
New York Jets.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
The Jets are above the Bengals and the.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
I mean one game in the cowy See. This is
what I'm saying, this is what I'm saying about America.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
For both of them. But but listen, they beat the Titans.
They didn't get anybody beat the Titans.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
But it's crazy like they went up though, they went
up the Cowboys. They lose one game and they dropped
six five points. What do they drop though?

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
I would think the bet here would be, if you're
just playing odds value, it would be the Bengals of
plus sixteen hundred. Yeah, yeah, because they have the realist
shot to win it all with those terrible odds.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Yeah, they're oh and two right, yes, and they always.

Speaker 7 (01:27:12):
Start with terrible three or four years in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:27:16):
And the Cowboys. So the Cowboys one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
nine tenth.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
That is unbelievable.

Speaker 10 (01:27:21):
I think they were at five at the start of
the season. It's a big game on Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
I knew you'd get all but heart out that one.

Speaker 7 (01:27:27):
That's ridiculous, man, America, he's been sensitive all week.

Speaker 5 (01:27:30):
Final thoughts, Eddie, Oh damn. I'm just looking forward to
the Cowboys game this week. I'm just gonna chill and
whatever happens happens. Man, Like gay man, you know what's
I'm probably gonna be in the air, so I might
be watching that one on the airplane, which is always fun,
too good, because a flight was by fast and it's
a long fly correct and I do like whenever like
the Cowboys score, you hear like the five collaps and

(01:27:50):
then you're.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Like, oh, where are you at? Where you're at?

Speaker 4 (01:27:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Go Cowboys? So you are what your deal is? I'm
just gonna chill.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
Whatever happens they lose whatever, man they tried and they win. Cool,
We'll see what happens.

Speaker 6 (01:28:01):
Do you see c J.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
Stroud trying to give advice to Caleb Williams.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
That's not having at all out here?

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Let me out here. I came in, did it and
he's like no.

Speaker 7 (01:28:10):
It's kind of like when the handshake after.

Speaker 6 (01:28:12):
The Yeah, I liked it.

Speaker 13 (01:28:14):
Why wouldn't he take little message? He probably was like
you my age, same eye rolls. Yeah, like nails painted
better than college. Yeah, Ravens and Cowboys. Ravens at one
point favorite in Dallas. H I mean that's crazy.

Speaker 10 (01:28:30):
And you can make the Ravens own three would be
pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
That would be cool.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Yeah, or the Ravens they make Cowboys one and two.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
That happened to But whatever happens happens, that's tough.

Speaker 8 (01:28:39):
Kevin Well, We're going to meet stone cold and for
me as like a child. I was in wrestling as
a kid, not so much as an adult. But man,
he was the man and I think he's the reason
I probably drink cors Light till this day.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
So is that right?

Speaker 7 (01:28:53):
Would it be weird if I brought a cors Light
for me and him?

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Yes? Okay, that was easy.

Speaker 7 (01:28:58):
Just wanted to ask.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Yeah, can you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Imagine, howny people want to drink beers? Just don't call
everybody reading.

Speaker 7 (01:29:04):
Oh yeah, I bought some new shoes. I needed some
some nice shoes. Check these out. Hey, look at these.
Look at these for those that are watching.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
Okay, come on, man, these are the comfy shoes those listening.

Speaker 10 (01:29:15):
It's white?

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Is that your thing? This is what you came up with?

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
It that What kind of shoe is that?

Speaker 6 (01:29:21):
It's a yasy?

Speaker 2 (01:29:22):
Are you about easy?

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
They're going they're going down in price now that he's
not gonna work with him anymore. Yeah he's not. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay,
just looking forward to this week in football, let's go. Okay,
I if Arkassa doesn't beat Auburn by I'm just gonna
say this now. If they don't win the game, stop stop,
don't do If farcass doesn't win the game, I'm not.
I'm gonna fake like I don't care for like.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
Three days next week, like what I'm doing right now.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
No better, I'm gonna fake like I don't care for
three days.

Speaker 8 (01:29:51):
You could not talk about it for three days on
the podcast, I guess for oneisode, absolutely no doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
Okay, if I'm pissed, I'll be talking about it though,
just for Entertamperson.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
But once you just do what I do, man, just
enjoy the game.

Speaker 4 (01:30:02):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
I can't, and whatever happens happens, I can't. But it's
different with college in NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
What's so different about it?

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
First of all, you have seventeen games. We have twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
There are way it's just it's different. There's twelve team
playoffs now this year in the NFL. Fourteen. Yeah, so
in their division, it's just different. NFL's got a much easier.
You can lose a couple of games, you can lose
four games, five games in the NFL, but you have
to You can't lose that in college because you have
like Tater.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Tots baked Inah, it's so stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:30:33):
So anyway, if Farcas doesn't win I'm pissed, and I'm
gonnact like you don't care for lest three days I'm
even going to consider. I'm even gonna think in my head,
I'm probably not gonna give them as much money, but
I'm still going to. But I'm still going to. So anyway,
that's that's my thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Well, hope they win, man, Thank you me too, Kill somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:30:50):
One of you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
If we lose one of you dies, I'll see you
guys next week.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
You buy a Buddy.

Speaker 5 (01:31:01):
Wilson My whistle Hi whistled theme song written by Bobby
Bones That's me and performed.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
By Brandon Ray. Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music.
You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bones Sports.
Thanks to our crew co host at Producer Ready, segment
producer at Kickoff Kevin, Video producer at Redrberry, and executive
producer at Mike Diestro, But most importantly, thank you for listening.

(01:31:29):
I'm Bobby Bones. We'll talk to you next time. Here
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