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Zach Balo from Dorm Dudes joined the guys to tell his wild story of turning $250 into $37K in just a few weeks thanks to some HUGE parlay hits, and Bobby gives him a little advice after finding out how much of that he ended up losing. Plus, Riverboat Ron Rivera joined Bobby to talk about a regret of his while playing for the '85 Bears, why the Army-Navy game means so much, and more! 

 

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Speaker 5 (01:22):
Wits, so twenty line.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I'll say that I did lose my twenty five hundred
dollars on BAMA. I did not cash out when it
was like six hundred bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
We warned you.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
I didn't want to. That's almostich And why did you ask?

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Because that's what I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Because I want, honestly, because I wanted to, hopefully do
the opposite of what you said. Sometimes when I ask
and I know, if you go you should do this,
I'm like, I'm on the right track.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, but you asked both me, you asked all of us.
You asked me, you reading Kevin.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I just wanted you guys know what I was dealing with.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
And then we told you what we thought and you
go not doing that.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Red didn't re jumped in ages he goes have.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Fun after you said that.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah is my guy though moment. So I did about
twenty five hundred bucks in Alabama to win the National Championship,
knowing there was a decent shot they wouldn't make it in.
Everything had to go just wrong for them not to
make it in, and everything went just wrong. Yeah, meeting.
If SMU wins, they're in. If SMU gets run, they're in.
And SMU was getting run and they made a SMU
almost won, and then what else went wrong? Clumbs makes

(02:24):
an eighty nine yard field goal. It was so stupid.
And now I got the game of the two oranges,
two or three oranges. I hate the most Clemson in
Texas so quickly. And also I'm gonna play you. There's
gonna be some bad words coming up, not from me,
but from a kid that took off TikTok who plays
video games against adults, and it's hilarious. There will we

(02:44):
know bad words now, but I will warn you ahead
of time. Okay, get ready for it, because I laughed
out loud and send it to Mike immediately and was like,
put this on the show.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
How old is this kid?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I don't know? Twelve eleven it's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
I think he's twelve.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, it's so funny. Uh, Coach Riverboat Ron coming up too.
Let's walk through some stuff. Boise. He beats you n
l V. Which, by the way, our guy went to Purdue.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, went to Purdue.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
Good for him.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
I should text him.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
That's quick, huh like two years? Three years? No, I'm saying, like,
just you lose and then you go to Purdue.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Like, well, will you lose because your season's over and
the ball game doesn't matter. It probably was already like.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, they had agreed.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
I should text him right now. I love coach Otam
and you guys all we've all got a chance to
know coach on them. But I've known him from his
Arkansas days and I'm so happy for him. Except Purdue's
cold as crap.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah. Where's the Indiana?

Speaker 6 (03:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, East Lansing. Is that what it is?

Speaker 3 (03:39):
That's not that's Michigan State.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
It's East No, No, it's it's East rather another you
know it's something because I didn't know where Purdue was.
You're gonna read it. It's gonna be like, oh, that's weird.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
It's Purdue the city.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
What's called West West.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's something like that.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Well, that's that's confusing. It sounds like Louisiana I did.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, he want to produce, although it's called crap there.
Uh And Purdue was probably the worst team in football.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yeah they're awful, definitely out of the power for conferences.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yet, yeah they were awful. So congrats, but yuh. UNLV
loses twenty one seven of Boise State Jenny with two
hundred nine yards Big Twelve Championship. Arizona State just ran awesome.
Arizona State looks so good and we're gonna walk through it.
Arizona say lost their best receiver and still like I'm
telling you something. Arizona State the running back, yes Skataboo

(04:30):
Scattaby and after where in the press conference Gotta he
was like, I'm the best run back in the country.
I just want to and I'm like, I can't argue
with that, like Genty is, but Scataboo is like, dude,
that dude runs. He's angry. He's like a Chiefs running
back Christian Koy No check now, but checko? He runs
like but checko. SC Championship Georgia b Texas. I'll come
back to that. I definitely want to come back credet
one Big Ten Championship. Penn State and Oregon.

Speaker 5 (04:52):
What a game.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
It was awesome, ended up.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Killing the parlay. I told you, guys, don't beat the parlay.
I gave it to you, and I was like, I
don't know, I'll take Penn State plus five and a
half and I thought there's no way they even going
to be close once the game started. What a game there.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
And then you also did say if you won the
first two cash out.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Oh I did say that.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Oh I forgot that, thank god. So hopefully they listened.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yes, guys, I'm gonna say for the first time, I feel.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Like Penn State is a player.

Speaker 7 (05:18):
Yeah, they're good, They're play and I've seen him play
three times this year and at times, man, they Oregon
is the best team in the country. Yeah, it didn't
matter what you did. And our boy wide receiver, yes,
would go to spend time with her.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
We have to hundred yards player of the game.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, he's like four to one pounds and they couldn't
stop him. He's skinny, He's awesome. Smu Clumson on the
field goal at end of the game. Okay, so I
just all that out of the way. I do have
some notes on a couple of things. One, I think
that the committee made the right decision putting SMU in.
Now here is why I don't think SMU is the

(05:59):
best team, one of the best twelve teams.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
They had to.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Draw a line on what is important to them, and
so if you would have gotten in before your conference game,
you should get in, even if you lose. But I
think how they lost bad, they wouldn't have gotten in. Yeah,
if you would have gotten in before you play your
conference game and you still lose your conference game, you
should still get in. And I think that's what they

(06:23):
were saying. I think if Alabama plays SMU, they beat
them nine out of ten times, possibly ten. If it
was we're just putting in the twelve best teams, then
Alabama gets in. But what they did is they told us,
schedule nobody and just play your conference games. Because SMU's
best win was the overtime do going for two and

(06:47):
not getting it winning that game as to mean to
play anybody. That's okay, they got the conference championship. They
did what they had to do, so and everybody's comparing
well Alabama's the only thing they beat Georgia Da da dah.
I think the committee, even though I lost money on this,
I can do both. I can be separate.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
No, no, I'll be pissed right now.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
I was really hoping Alabama would have got in, but
I thought if they were gonna do what I felt
like was the fundamental right thing based on the rules
they had given and said pre this selection, SMU should
have gotten in. SMU is gonna get run. I'm gonna
do all things, picking the bracket it a little bit.
SEM is gonna get run and it's going to be
ugly because they can't compete. Good for them, they'll second

(07:29):
their conference first year in got fortunate with the conference
schedule they could play. It wasn't their fault that they
didn't that their conference games weren't much. Same thing with Indiana.
You can't really fault to them, is the point. So
SMU should have gotten in. I do think it's hilarious
that comes in the twelve and SMU is the eleven.
Even though comes and beat SMU, it's true, yeah, to

(07:51):
get in, Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, But I think SMU
should have gotten in although SMU is not near the
team that Alabamas, And if they would have said the
whole time, we're gonna take the twelve best teams, whole
different story. I think they need to change some roles
next year. I think they need to eliminate the conference
winners get the buys top Sure, you just got to
go to the top four team. It looks weird, you
just got to go top fourteen. Yeah, but I don't

(08:12):
think they messed up by doing it this year. I
think they'd never done it. So what you do is
you do something, you set it, and then you adjust
accordingly after So this twelve team playoff is the greatest
thing to happen to sports in the past fifteen twenty years.
Excited it is, and people fighting and who cares when
you fight over four teams? When you fight over twelve

(08:33):
or thirteen? All those games matter at the end of
the year. There were eighteen games that mattered in the
last two weeks for the national championship. That was awesome.
So I love the playoff. I can remove myself from
losing the twenty five hundred dollars bet I made I'm
Alabama good year. I can because I did say, my
only bet was bet Georgia money line over Texas, even

(08:56):
though Texas was a favorite, and I made it up
there to pretty much counter that good game though. That's
a pretty good game. Yeah, pretty boring game. Yeah, boring game.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yeah, first half was born.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
And it was like the two quarterbacks that were supposed
to be the quarterbacks yours beck.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, we guys are hurt. Troy there, yeah shoulder, I
mean certainly who came back for that last play?

Speaker 1 (09:16):
And then people are all like, well, let's look at
the other schedules, and I'll say this, and there's no joke.
I don't like Texas, and a lot of that comes
from its insecurity and inferiority. But I admit that I
hate Texas.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Hates a strong word, then I hate texts.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I was born and bred to hate Texas because they
are bigger than us, They're richer than us, they have
more tradition than us. Everything about Texas is just what
we in Arkansas like. Dang. I wish we would have
had some money in our state, or be a bigger state,
or have major metropolitan city to have a recruiting, fertile
fan base.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
Or have all that, right, yeaheah, yeah, we don't. We don't.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
So I hate Texas, respect them, but hate them.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Texas, they didn't be a single top twenty five team.
They have no wins over top twenty five team the
only time the two times the two Tames they played
there were ranked, they lost both times. So if you're
gonna start doing the well they didn't. But that's not
what we're doing. Texas got to the championship game. You
get in, you were gonna get in anyway. Sure, you're good, Mike, Yeah,

(10:14):
I know. It sucked.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Oh it was awful.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
You're gonna get a home game though, yeah, yeah, that's
gonna be fun.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Huh Yeah.

Speaker 8 (10:21):
But I mean there were just so many opportunities to
win that game, and we kept losing the ball, all
these penalties.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
It was just like it frustrating.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, but at times when teams go, you know, we
didn't play good enough to win, mostly a lot of
times because the other team played really well to make
you not play good enough to win, Like defensively Georgia,
although that one drop pick early in the game, that yeah,
oh man, yeah, that's pick six.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Well, when Texas started kicking field goals and dominating but
still only up six to nothing. You're like, at the half,
did every statin and.

Speaker 8 (10:53):
Then the chance to win it at the end is
still couldn't couldn't score.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
So you know, Mike, I hate Texas, but I respect
Texas and you right, yeah, I say that like I
hate freaking Texas, but like it's out of love of myself.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
That's sweet of you.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, Texas lost. I like, we'll talk about their path
coming up in a little bit. They're playing Clemson. It's
like the Devil's playing Satan. It's like, dear God, like,
can't they both be so? But Texas has no top
twenty five wins, so they haven't be anybody good. But
they don't have to beat anybody good because they beat
the schedule that was ahead of them. And I heard

(11:26):
some people like, look at Texas first year in the
SEC in the championship game. Yet A and M did
that too?

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Oh yeah, so did A and M win it?

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Think they got smoked and they didn't win it.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
They didn't win it. But I'm glad Texas did not win.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Yeah for that reason.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
No, no, no, for.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Many but I mean, really them coming in first year
winning it.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
But they had a star team it would have been
crazy except they were loaded, and they were loaded last
year and made it to the to the College Football plaoff.
What are you gonnay about the SMU team? They were
way down, they came back. They look final drive. Guy
keeps his feet in touchdown. I watched every game, whach
all the games. It was great. And then freaking Clemson

(12:05):
kicks a fifty six yard field goal to win the game.
Good for them. They deserve it. They deserve it because
they won the game. They're bigger, faster, stronger than SMU.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Anyway.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
I think they've played They played SMU ten times. They
probably win seven of those. Yeah, because Dadood has better athletes,
and that's not that SMU can. And SMU has a
lot of money now in the Nile world. They've always
been a rich kid school, but they have a lot
of money now for athletics. They just you know, they
got the coach from USC, the basketball coach. You paid
much money. You think USC to SMU in any other
world is a move you make? No, of course, it's

(12:37):
not like a lateral movement. Yeah, so good, good on that.
H I do want to talk about, Oh, Timothy Shamalay,
how do you say his name Shamalay. Here's what I
want to say about him. I watched him on college
game Day eight plus respect complete, and I don't care
how we did it because you have the people going, well,

(13:00):
he's an actor and he studied cool, and you have
people going no, he knows ball great. All I care
about And I don't even care that much except for
I like when people are taking dumps on people for
me to go like, nump, don't take it up on
that person because they don't deserve it. And before Timothy
Chamala went on, they were like, what is this dude doing?

(13:21):
He's like a long haired little fruit frew actor la.
But nothing about him screams I've even watched a sport.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, I see that right just by looking at him.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
He dominated and I heard he did really good. He did,
he did really good. And again I don't care for
what reason, and I will tell you why. Let's say
he is a great actor, dude, and Dune Mike, he's great,
he's good. Yeah. I was never a Chalma John Plan,
but dude, he's good. He's a good actor.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Great.

Speaker 4 (13:50):
Willy Wonka was he?

Speaker 6 (13:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:52):
I never saw that one. Yeah, they're gonna send me
a screener, Mike, I want to see.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
He was in town this weekend.

Speaker 8 (13:58):
I almost got to interview him.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
What I got?

Speaker 8 (14:00):
I gotta like an email at five saying, Hey, Timothy
shallow May is gonna be at this theater if you
could be there, I replied immediately they said it was
filled up.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Dang, dang, dang. Well he went on.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Dan.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
He even was like almost perfect in his picks, only
got to pick Ohio. Sound like you knew he was
talking about. But here's what I want to say. Let's
just say the haters are right, and he's an actor,
and he studied and he knew everything. You don't think
a lot of those people are doing heavily studying before
they go on, because it's not like I could go
on and even know the Ohio team, and I would

(14:34):
go on and be like, Okay, let's see Ohio runs
through four defense, but they're gonna do I'm gonna go.
I would even study to sound halfway decent on that sure,
and I feel like I'm fairly knowledgeable freaking sports. Like
at any point, he was really good. Doesn't anybody up
there study? Like everyone up there studies, Yes, but he
was so good, and he wasn't expected to be good
that it kind of set everybody into.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
A show based on his looks and like him being
an actor.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
That's so unfair and nobody ever grades people in those
each week.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
So why is he?

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Is it because of who he is?

Speaker 3 (15:01):
True?

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Oh, it's precisely because of who he is and where
he comes from and never openly being a sports fan.
He also you know, dates a Kardashian, but he's like little,
like super thin everything about you and think like Hollywood
pretty boy actor like smokes the thin cigarettes. Yeah, musical theater. Ye, dude,

(15:21):
he rocked it. I could not be more complimentary if
for however he dominated, he dominated it because imagine this.
Let's say no sports, he rocked it. Let's say he
studied it and didn't know him at sports. He rocked
in he did what he was good at. Imagine why
somebody that's like a comedian goes up there and they
didn't they don't study so much study for sports, but
they write jokes about the team and stuff, and they
go up and they crush it. Nobody goes like, well,
he studied just to be funny. He did his funny thing.

(15:44):
Let's say he memorized lines and was acting well. Comedians
get extra do they're extra funny, dedicated just to being
funny for that specific thing.

Speaker 4 (15:52):
No difference.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Everybody just a hater because they're not they're not him,
or they don't get to be on college game day
or they're.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
Not I feel like if you get asked to be
on there and you don't know anything about sports, I've
bet a lot of people kind of turn that down
and be like, no, I don't want to look like
an idiot.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Now, they'll walk through it. They'll walk you through it.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah. There have been a couple of times where they've
been like, hey, if Arkansas wins, we'd like to talk
to you about possibly being either game day picker or
SEC Network has been there a couple of times when
I was in game day. Every single time Arkansas has lost,
for the record that the game day was coming, and
they've never said for sure you're the one, And I
think I might have been like second pick every time,

(16:27):
depending on if they could have got like John Dailey's
own at a bunch. It wasn't worried about John Daily,
but if like a McFadden was there, there was a
chance like an NFL guy, but they both times recently
they were like, hey, we want to consider you for this,
and I'm like, cool, I know the games. The games,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
I'll study up. Oh you'd be great at that though.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Maybe, but that would probably be terrible because I'd be like,
I'd be great, but I would study like crap. Anyway, shot,
I give Timothy Chamala a plus, Mike, did you see it?

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Yeah, he's good, he's great.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
I would say he knows ball and if he does
any tricked me into know the ball, like he tricks
me and he didn't doing like he's on another planet. Yeah,
I believe that too. I believe he's on another planet.
Trying to say that.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
He'd make the long corns.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
It didn't work out, but it was cool.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
That was his only miss maybe huh yah, Yeah, I
think so McAfee's only on the Big Georgia.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Yeah, out of the whole panel.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Right if he end me money line?

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Oh YouTube money line had you?

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (17:18):
So okay, boom boom eddie one at the Titans game,
I did. I saw your picture. By the way, what
a what a terrible awful just a few hours terrible game. Well,
I saw your seats and you're like, going last minute.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Those weren't my seats.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Why would take a picture from SATs?

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Because I walked right in and I was like, boom,
first picture. Then I went to my seats. Dude, my
seats were way up in the top.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Oh they were worse than what you show. Oh yeah, yeah,
because you bought them last minute.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah well no, I mean so we were on our
way to church and I was like, you know what,
I was doing my parlay and I look at that game.
I'm like, there's gotta be some cheap tickets for this game.
And so I look on seat geet and sure enough,
it's like fifteen dollars. They're up. It was like second
row on the very very top. Which bucks. That's awesome though,
fifteen bucks do for six for four kids and the
whole family going, your wife go, yeah, well we all

(18:03):
did it. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Did they have a good time?

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Well I didn't realize this, but and I guess I
should as a dad, But it was their first NFL game. Oh,
Like I didn't even think about that because I guess
we've been trying to do a Cowboys game for a
long time. That like, I've never even thought about just
taking a Sunday and us going to see the Titans.
And then they were like, that is just so much fun.
It's our first NFL game. Like, yeah, I knew that.

(18:26):
I knew that.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
They had to tell you it was their fir completely
on Titans, is it? Well, hey, it's only up from here,
that's true. I had a friend who took his kid
to a first college game and it was a crazy
game and it was like overtime and they had seats
like the fourth throw and I'm like, oh God, this
kid's never gonna be the same thing. You took them
to the perfect first game, right, bad seats, bad teams.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Was it raining?

Speaker 3 (18:49):
It drizzled a little bit, but it never No, I
never turned into like a real rain. That's good, But man,
they're terrible.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
They realized how long the games are when you're actually there.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Yeah, So like they stand around and a few times
are like, hey, why are they just not doing anything?
Like it's commercial break, and they were like mind.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Blown, like, oh, yeah, this is what.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
They do when we're watching a commercial. Yeah is it?

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (19:11):
So that was kind of cool, and then they didn't
realize to just kind of when they would throw afar
like a long pass a forty year past, how really
far they're throwing it to them? They were just like,
oh my, like did you see him throw that ball?
Like that thing went all the way across this whole stadium.
So it's cool to see them see that for themselves
because when you do watch the TV, like, you don't
see the receivers. You just see the quarterback kind of chunking,

(19:34):
like what's he chunking it to? So you kind of
see how far they are down the field, which is
really cool.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Oh yeah, and they got to say two just glorious quarterbacks. Dude,
it was due Will Loves is awful, right, Well, who's
or Mac Jones? So we already know about Mac Jones.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
He's terrible. But I say terrible as in like ten
million has better than us. Yeah, yeah, in every way,
like you look in uniform and the whole thing we are.
Now you want to go, Mike, you want to do
that spot or you want to go to the interview.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Let's do the spot.

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Hopefully you did as I suggested, because if you did,
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(20:26):
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was five and are Yeah, I should have cashed it.
I didn't even cash out. I didn't know. I told
myself to cash out.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Got that.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
But I did hit big time on Georgia Money Line Texas.
So yeah, I hope you did what I did. Hope
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and there's it's a different app. And I want to
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What to say.

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Yeah, I'm picked. I had a meeting with DraftKings guys. Yeah,
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we were talking about like next, you know, just trying
to keep how can we grow this thing? And possibly
I don't want to spoil it, but possibly we might
go to the Super Bowl. Oh, or at least be
there for a couple of days ahead of time, like
to do all the press.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
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Speaker 1 (21:21):
So not sure if we can yet, but I was
we were just talking about stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
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Speaker 1 (21:26):
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DraftKings pick six app. And this is great in basketball.
This is great in football too, because we know we
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just saying you can do this in stage. You can't DraftKings.
Oh is that because it's got it?

Speaker 3 (21:50):
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Speaker 1 (21:52):
So like two or more players and choose that will
have more or less of a stat like points and
rebounds of three pointers or more basketball picked a couple players,
But let's talk about football tonight. Jamar Chase more or
less than eighty one receiving yards. I'm gonna go more.
Bengals got to score a bunch of points in order
to freaking win games. Not that the Cowboys are gonna
need them score a bunch of points.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
No, but the Cowboys secondary there, they got a lot
of holes in them.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Ceedy Lamb more or lesson sixty eight receiving yards. Let's
go more there too, because they're gonna have to score
a bunch of points to sure and Cooper Rush is
actually Cooper in a little bit.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, yeah, he can win games.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Joe Burrow more or less than two seventy six passing yards.
I would have said before this less. But we saw
some threes yesterday. We saw some guys throw, which is
pretty cool. Dude, Sam Donald as a monster. If they
don't try to sign him now, I know that was
never the plan. Maybe he doesn't want to stay in Minnesota.
I know that was never the plan. It couldn't been.
J J mcart he's he's not playing good for Sam

(22:46):
Donald now, he's just playing really good. Yeah, and he's
only twenty seven. So I had a bunch of guysto
for three hundred yestra at least a few.

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Speaker 1 (23:37):
I think you're gonna love coach Ron Rivera. I mentioned
this at the end, but Eddie and I ran into
him at Pebble Beach a couple of years ago. They
decided that I had just hit the threshold of being
famous enough to play in the Pebble Beach program. It
was a real highlight for me.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Nicely a big deal.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, and by far as was the least fans person there,
but at least I was like, famous, you're there, yeah,
because they don't invite people don't. But I'm talking bottom
of the barrel. I'm scraping and that, but that's okay. Yeah,
And like the people that were there were like, uh,
Jason Bateman talked to him, hung out with him. I mean,
it was like super superstars and everybody was so nice.
It's kind of the rule there that if you're not

(24:12):
super nice and kind to everybody else that's playing there,
they don't invite you back. And I know about massive
stars that weren't to bite it back. So Eddie and
I are just walking around, yeah, and like it's not
really a clubhouse, but like an area where.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
It would be the clubhouse. It was a tent, but
it would be the clubhouse.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
And we see Ron Rivera and I'm like, that's all Rivera.
We should we should say hi because everybody's nice and
if everybody wasn't nice, I wouldn't And I was like, hey,
coach Rivera, I'm Bobby Zzetti.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
He said, now it doesn't talk to husazing.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
It was amazing, and I did not expect him to
remember it because we totally went up and ambushed him
and he was super cool about everything. But we bring
it up at the end of this interview.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
Was he standing by himself? He was walking by himself, walking.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Himself again, and I had my Cowboys hat on, and
he was the coach for the Commanders at the time,
and he looks at me like, what are you doing?
Why you wearing that craft?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Here he has two time NFL Coach of the Year
and Super Bowl champion Ron Rivera coach. Rivera told a
story about how we got that nickname Riverboat Ron, his
ties to the military, upcoming Army Navy game much more
big thanks for coming on. It's awesome. You can watch
the Army Navy game this Saturday on CBS at three
pm Eastern. Here he is coach Ron Rivera. Hey, coach,
we really appreciate the time. We have friends that have

(25:21):
played against you and that have played for you in
different capacities, and they really liked you and said you
were a players to them. They defined you as a
players coach, which I would not think if I came
from a military background, I would be much of a
player's coach. How were you able to balance that where
you were such a disciplinarian but also the players still
really liked you.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
Well, I think Bobby the biggest thing, more anything else,
was I played the game two. I had nine years
of NFL experience, played for the Chicago Bears on the
nineteen eighty five championship team, and I think that gives
me credibility. It didn't make me necessarily a better coach
than anybody else, but what it did was a gaming perspective.
I have a different perspective than a lot of people do,
and that is I've played the game, I've coached the game.

(26:04):
Now I'm doing some broadcast stuff. I may coach again,
but I have a perspective a lot of people don't have.
They don't look at it from a different set of
eyes like I do.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
You may coach again. I'm not going to let that
nugget just swim by coach because there will be a
lot of positions that are open. Are you already starting
to get calls just gauging interest?

Speaker 6 (26:27):
Well, I do know that. You know, I have an
agency that I'm working with, and they, for the most part,
are the ones handling it. I'm just kind of staying
low right now. You never really want to get it
out there until it's time and so we'll see what
happens at the end of the season. We'll go from there.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
Did you do the Super Bowl Shuffle?

Speaker 6 (26:46):
No, that's a great story. You know, they filmed the
Super Bowl Shuffle the day after we got beat by Miami.
It was our only loss that year. You know, we
finished the season, we were eighteen in them one but
our only loss was the Monday Night. Monday Night lost
to Miami in Miami, and it was a you know,
it was a heartbreak, it really was. But what happened

(27:09):
was on the flight home. See back back in the day,
Monday Night didn't start till nine pm because they wanted
the West coast to be able to watch it at
six pm. So you start the game at nine game
runs long. We don't finished the game till after midnight
on the East Coast. So typically after your game, you know,
you shower up, you head to the airport, and you

(27:30):
fly back. Well, we were flying back. Willie Gault was
part of the group that was putting together the Super
Bowl Shuffle, and he was going up and down the
aisles of the airplane trying to get guys to show up.
And if you really watch it, you'll notice that really
there's only about twenty four. Twenty five guys showed up
in person. Several guys didn't show up. I was one

(27:50):
of them, not that it mattered, but you know, Jim
McMahon didn't show Walter Payton wasn't there originally, Jim mcman,
William Perry. And so what they had to do with
those guys was they had to blue screen those guys in.
So if you really watch it, and you'll notice that
certain guys were blue screened in. And that was all.

Speaker 5 (28:08):
Because, you know, we had just lost.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
And it's not like, you know, you wanted to go
do something like that after a loss. But still, you know,
they had twenty seven guys show up. They did the
most of the of the filming that day, and then
they captured the guys they really needed later on.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Do you regret not showing up? Now?

Speaker 6 (28:25):
I wish I had. That thing has gone cold and
platinum all the way on down, and it still lives today.
It still lives today, And you know that's the thing.
People understand that eighty five team was the first Rock
and Roll super Bowl. It was the twentieth anniversary of it.
It was one of those things that just you know,

(28:46):
it definitely does live on and on. It's crazy, but
that just shows you how iconic and how powerful that
team was.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
I'm going to talk about the Army Navy game in
a second with you because I know, again you're personally involved.
But before I get to that, we talked about coaching.
Would you coach college?

Speaker 6 (29:02):
I'd consider it, but it have to be the right place,
the right fit. You know, my last four years coaching
in the NFL was very difficult, and and it was
a lot had to do with some of the stuff
that you know, really doesn't revolve around football itself. There
are a lot of outside things that I had to
work and work through for the team. But I really,
you know, loved the game. I loved coaching. I've never

(29:25):
been on the college level, so I'm not quite sure
what I would expect, so I really have to opportunity
came up. I really have to think about that. I
really would.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I got a couple of teams I'd like for you
to coach and let me know if that's a pretty
big boost during a couple of places of coach. We're
just to call away me and you we can do this.
I do want to talk about the Army Navy game
for a second, because your dad served the military, is
that true?

Speaker 6 (29:46):
Yes, Yeah, my dad served thirty two years in United
States Army chief warrant officer. You know, our dad was
one of those, you know, lifers, and he just traveled
the world and brought the family with him. You know,
we were in Germany, we were in we were in
Fort Meade, Maryland. We're in Fort Lewis, Washington. But our
home base was always Ford or in California.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
How do you feel like that affected you as a coach,
the discipline that he lived and taught you. How much
of that came through you to your players?

Speaker 6 (30:14):
I think it came through a lot. One of the
biggest things you learned right after bat is chain of command.
You know, everything kind of is just structured from the
top and works its way down. And you also learned
a responsibility. One of the really cool lessons I learned
from my dad was when I first got the job
as the head coach of the Carolina Panthers. Dad and

(30:35):
I were talking and he never told me anything or
what to do or how to do things, anything like that,
but he did give me this one message I thought
was really cool. He and I were in the in
the garage of their house, and we were talking about it.
He said, Ronnie, I want you understand something. He said. Listen,
you're now in charge. You're now the man. He said,
understand this. But all hell's breaking loose. Right in the

(30:57):
middle of combat, and all hell is breaking loose. Murders
are landing, firing, you know, people are firing their weapons.
Guys are all over the place, screaming, yelling. Everybody turns
and looks at the commander if he's in control. If
he's in charge, everybody calms down and they work off
at him. He said, never forget that. If you're out

(31:17):
of control, your player will feed off of you and
they'll be out of control. If you're calm and cool
in the motor pool. That's one of his favorite sayings.
Calm and cool in the motorpool. Hey, they'll be calm,
they'll be cool. No play for you. And I never
forgot that little lesson he gave me.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Did you feel like like if there was a game
winning field goal or a miss field goal or a
big play, like you still need to remain calm because
people could see or even like somebody like hanging their
head like a quarterback hanging their head. Did you talk
to them about the same type of thing?

Speaker 6 (31:47):
Absolutely? That was one of the things I try to
get across, especially the quarterback position or the middle linebackers. Guys, Hey,
everybody looks at you. Everybody feeds off your energy. You
drop them shoulders, they'll drop their shoulders. You can keep
that chest step high, they'll keep the chest up. Vile.
Just understand everybody is watching you and everybody around your
reflection of the way you handle things.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
You're working with USAA, what is your relationship with them,
and why is this game so important?

Speaker 6 (32:12):
Well? USA, I've been a member for over gosh since
nineteen eighty two, I believe it was. I've inherited from
my father and I've been a member ever since. They
handle all our family's insurances and stuff like that, and
what they've been involved in supporting the military because they
were started with the military in mind. Their history goes

(32:34):
back to a group of military officers got together and said,
you know, we need to be able to have insurance
that we can take with us, travel with us, transfer
with us, and then pass on to our kids. And
so they started USAA, and the whole thing behind it
is that it serves the military community. I've been very
fortunate to be involved with them. I was the NFL

(32:54):
Salutes to Service Award winner coming after the twenty twenty
two season, which was really a cool thing. And it's
also because you know, my father served and when we
were in when we were in Panama, the one thing
I remember is I remember the USO and how they
would travel all over the United States, all over the
world and you know, put on these events for for

(33:15):
for the military families, and just that was the first
time I ever saw anybody give back to the military,
and so it kind of touched me. And so as
I got older and got into the NFL, I got
involved in doing stuff for the military, being around them.
Then go to Charlotte, uh, you know, for the Carolina Panthers,
and come to find out that the USO was born

(33:37):
in North Carolina, and so my wife and I one
of the charities that we worked with, one of the
people that we helped fundraise for and do things for
was the USO of North Carolina Army.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Navy game is also just awesome. I'm glad it has
its own week Like it's just yes and you're going
to be at that game.

Speaker 6 (33:53):
Yes, yes, you know. I was invited to be part
of some of the ceremonies on Friday and Saturday, and
so I most and we'll be there and it's just
an opportunity again to give back. It was kind of
neat because of some of the people that I've been around.
I got an opportunity to go to West Point last spring.
Me and Joe Torrey went there and we talked about leadership,

(34:13):
and we talked about dealing with the hostile media as well.
It was it was a lot of fun, and it
was really neat to be around the cadets and really
just you know, when you see these young men and women,
you feel very good about our country because you know
who these people are and they do really, truly do
represent the finest. And I can imagine it's the same
way the Naval Academy is the same way at the

(34:34):
Air Force Academy. I haven't had a chance to be
to those two places, but I will tell you if
there's anything like the like West Point weren't a very
good place as far as people in this world.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
You have a Walter Payton jersey behind you, and I
would read stories about Walter Peyton and taking like the
soles of his shoes out so we could feel the
ground as you ran. Did you ever see that for yourself?

Speaker 6 (34:53):
Yes, I did. You know. One of the things I
used to do, uh, And I did it, and I
kind of regretted it a little bit was I would
run that hill that he used to run with him
every now and then he would get me and say,
come on, Chico, we got to go run some hills.
So I would go run with them. And man, I'll
tell you what, that was one of the hardest things
I've ever done, just watching him work out, watching him
prepare for the season, and he did some of this

(35:15):
stuff in season as well. People don't realize that he
kept himself in tip top shape always.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
He a different time obviously, But running backs, you know,
they ran hard, and they ran a lot, and one
back was the three down back, you know, and you
basically had one. Now, you know, they don't even want
backs getting hit a lot in college because they're like,
every time he gets hit, that's one less hit he
takes in the NFL, and you know he has no
you know, nothing on the tires. That wasn't the case

(35:42):
back then. And I would compare it to baseball on
pitchers now, where they put everybody on pitch counts, and
there weren't near as many arm injuries twenty five years
ago because people didn't didn't know possibly what they should
or shouldn't do. Do you feel like with running backs it's
the same as like a picture with pitch counts and
maybe we're a little too sensitive.

Speaker 6 (36:01):
Absolutely. You bring up a great point about this, and
that is preparing to play sports today has become so
specialized that you know, if you're a baseball player, all
you ever do is play baseball, and you play year round.
If you're a football player, all you do is get
ready for football. You played all year round when we
were kids, and I know when you're you know, you're
a lot younger me, but I know you probably played
all the sports because I grew up playing football, basketball, baseball, tennis, racquetball, swimming.

(36:25):
I mean, we did everything. We crossed trained and then
when I got into the end, I went through college
football and then got in the NFL. We had two
a days and we had two days in pass and
two a day's in pass lasted for two solid weeks.
Every day the same thing every day. They hitting the grind.
I think what happened for us a lot of us,
we built up the callousness to the game. You know

(36:46):
what I'm saying. We understood the difference between being injured
and being hurt. You know, there's a huge difference. And
you know, when you're hurting, you're so okay one thing.
But man, when you're injured, that's that's when you do
have to take the time off. That's when you do
have to go through rehab and get yourself ready to
go again. When you're hurt, it's now about maintaining your
body and taking care of it. Today. You know, the kids,

(37:08):
they don't cross train the way that we did back
in the day. They do have these pitch counts, they
do have these hit counts. You know, they watch the
way they practice. You have guys that now they wear
the GPS stuff and based on what the GPS tells you,
you know, he's traveled x amount of yards, he's using
x amount of force to run. We need to back

(37:29):
him up. And I think because of that, we have
not built the callousness we need to play these games
today in our young people.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
I want to ask you about Carolina for a second,
because you were gone before it seemingly turned bad and
it's bad, and it's I mean, there are from Baker
to and we can go even Baker talking this past
week to Bryce Young on the field and you kind
of read their lips a little bit and it's not
you were there. And I think David Tepper is the
one that came in when you were coaching the team.

(38:00):
And you know, it doesn't seem to me from ten
thousand feet up that he's running an organization there that
is doing anything productive at all. What is happening in Carolina.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
I think the biggest thing, more anything else, is mister
Chepper's learning and he's growing with his organization. You know,
I was fortunate I was with Jerry Richardson. Mister Richardson
played back in the day. He played for the for
the Baltimore Colts when they were the Colts, played on
their on their championship team, and then went from the
championship team and started his life in business. He becomes
the owner and as he went through it, he grew

(38:32):
and developed, you know, his culture the way he wanted it.
I think what you're going through right now in Carolina
is the same thing as that growth and learning to
develop and have a culture. What I will say is
I do like who they have now as their head coach.
I think Dave Canelson is one of the really good, young,
fine minds in the NFL. He's a good offensive mind.
He's done a great job. I think this year one

(38:52):
of the things he had to do is he benched
Bryce youelling at the beginning of the season, and now
Bryce he's come back and he's had an opportunity to play.
He's playing pretty dog gone well. I think that was
one of the really good moves this year that coaches
have made. I really do. I think taking Bryce, setting
him down, giving him a chance to watch Andy Dalton,
who's a very veteran guy. He watched Andy, he worked
with Andy, and he was terrific with the young man too.

(39:14):
And I think what you're seeing now as the results
of a kid giving me a chance to take a
step back watch how it's done, work with the guy
that's done it before. And at the same time, I
think coach Canalis also has figured out some of the
better plays to use for the young man. You're starting
to see some growth in that player, and I think
you're seeing a little bit of growth in that team.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Especially on the field, he looks great, like he again
even this last week. Then they lost the game that's
fumbled him, but you know, threw for almost three hundred
and two touchdowns. That's like three games in a row
where you know, he's not going to be extremely dynamic
all the time because he doesn't have the weapons. But man,
he looks good and at times dynamic, and I think
that's what they're looking for right absolutely.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
And the thing that's really interesting too is you see
some of the stuff that Dave Canalis is doing. You know,
Dave was in Seattle with Russell Wilson, who wasn't a
very big guy. Now he was. Russell's a little dorm stout,
you know, then he is. I think what you're gonna
see is you're gonna see a little bit more of
what they used to do in Seattle being implemented in
the offense that they use. You know, I think Sean

(40:13):
Payton's done a tremendous job where he is with bo Nix,
but he also did a tremendous job with Drew Brees.
Drew is a shorter guy as well, but what he
did was he made sure he had an offensive line
that was very stout up front. His two guards and
center were really stout. There was no push, no penetration,
which allowed Drew to take this drop and then step
in and drive the ball. Gave him a chance to
see through the passing length because they made sure they

(40:35):
had the right kind of players around him, and that
truly has helped him an awful lot. So to me,
I start watching, you know, Carolina, and I'm seeing what
Dave can Allison is doing and what he's trying to
implement on the offense, and I go, Wow, this dude's
doing a hell of a job. So I really do
think he's one of the really good young minds right now.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
In the NFL four final questions for you, I felt
like when you went into Washington, and again this is
me from ten thousand feet up, and I know you
look at me and you're like, you probably played linebacker.
I didn't coach, I didn't play NFL. I know I
loved intimidating, but I felt like that that institution with
Dan Snyder was in such disarray they wanted to bring
someone in that could kind of refocus the entire from

(41:13):
all the way up as far as you can reach
to all the way down to personnel. Did you feel
that that was your job when you went in there?
Did you feel like when what was the ceiling you
thought when you went into Washington.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
Well, I thought there was a lot of potential because
a lot of people forget We came in and we wanted
the division our first year, you know, in spite of
the fact it wasn't a good division, but we wanted.
But going forward, there were so many things that we
had to deal with, so many things that were off,
you know, outside the realm of football that we had
to deal with and try and get corrected. You know,
one thing that happened to is, you know, my personal

(41:46):
battle with cancer. You know, I was diagnosed with cancer
just before training camp started my first year there, and
you know, that was part of what I had to
deal with for the first couple of months in the season.
But once we got past that and you could see
the guys starting to come together started to play. It
also helped me make me really truly realize was how
important having a quarterback is. You know, my first seven
years in Carolina had Cam Newton, who was about as

(42:07):
good as anybody at the time, took us to a
Super Bowl we had four. We were the first team
in that division to win three straight division championships. I mean,
when you have a guy like that, and that guy
is your guy, it gives you every opportunity to be successful.
You go around and look and look throughout the league.
Coaches that have had that have been very, very productive.

(42:28):
Andy Reid, you know, he had Donovan McNabb initially when
he starts in Philadelphia. Then he comes out and he's
got Patrick mahons arguing one of the best. Sean McDermott
doing what he's doing up in Buffalo. I mean, that's
another great uh, you know, with Josh Allen. That just
shows you how important it is. But sometimes when you're
looking for that guy constantly, and that's what we did,
you know, my whole four years in Washington, we constantly

(42:49):
looked for a guy that could help carry the team,
and when you don't have that guy, you struggle. Now
they got Jayden Daniels, and I'm telling you, I think
what dan Quinn's doing there was really great, some really
good things with that young man and that team. So
it's been kind of neat to watch what's been going
on in the NFL this year.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Three questions left. When it comes to quarterbacks, we're seeing
so much. It matters where you land, who's coaching you,
what system you're in, right, because you can draft quarterback
that just doesn't match the system. Who is a quarterback
you think was just not in the right place, but
probably had so much potential, but because of possibly where
he was drafted in the system he was put into,
was not able to reach his full potential.

Speaker 6 (43:28):
I think Sam Darnold, I mean, right now, when you
see what's going on in Minnesota, Kevin Connell has done
a great job. He has re established who that young
man should be as a quarterback in the NFL. This guy,
a really solid college career, starts off in the NFL
with the Jets, I believe, struggle, struggled mildly, didn't seem
to fit the system, bounced around for a few years.
Then all of a sudden, he goes up to Minnesota

(43:49):
and look what's happened. Look how he's playing with confidence.
Look how he's got that team right in the middle
of the playoff run. I mean, I think that's a
great example of a guy being put in a great system.
You can say the same anything for Baker Mayfield. Boast
around his first few years. Now, all of a sudden
he ended up in Tampa Bay in the system that
really seems to fit him. And look how he's played.
He's played well and he's really truly leading that team

(44:10):
right now.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I was going through some data. It looks like he
scored one touchdown, you know, but you are really a
touchdown guy played defense?

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Do you have the ball? Did you keep the ball?

Speaker 6 (44:19):
Oh, without a doubt, I scored the touchdown. I spiked
the ball, and then I realized, what the hell are
you doing? I went and chased it down and grabbed it,
took it from the ball boy, and walked back to
the sideline with it.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Yeah, that's good. Final question whenever the nickname Riverboat Ron
came about, and obviously it's you know, I feel like
it was in Carolina when I heard it first, did
you feel like you were a guy that did push
the limits or were you just being you? Like I
don't know, Like I know when I go to the
casino sometimes I'm like, I'm going hard, I'm gonna be
a little more. Did you feel like you were a

(44:51):
gambler or were you just playing what you felt?

Speaker 6 (44:53):
I was playing what I felt. But this is what's
interesting now. River about Ron came about because of John matt. Okay,
after my second year in Carolina, I had this crazy
record of being three and thirteen the games decided by
one score or less. And at the end of the year,
like I did my first year, my second year, I
sit down with the owner, Jery Richardson, and we talked
about what just happened, how the season went, and what

(45:16):
needed to happen to go forward. And one of the
things I said to mister Richardson, I said, you know,
I really think I need a mentor, and i'd like
to have your permission to reach out and find a mentor.
And he kind of starts to chuckle with him, and
he goes, I want you to take a look at
this index card. He slides this index card across to me,
and there's a phone number on it, and under the
phone number, the name is John Madden. I started laughing.

(45:39):
I said, mister richard that's who I was going to
ask for permission to call. I want to talk to.
I wanted to talk to coach Madden. And you know,
sure enough, mister Richardson looks at me and goes, he's
expecting your call. So I calls coach Madden. We start
talking about it, and one of the things that he
said to me says, hey, I understand you three and
thirteen by games, you know, decided by a score less.

(46:00):
You go back and look and see if there's something
different you could have done.

Speaker 9 (46:03):
Well.

Speaker 6 (46:03):
I took that that, Oh, hey, you need to do
a report. So I went back, I looked at those games.
I wrote this twenty page report about, you know, things
that happened in the game, how I could have done
things differently. So I go out, I visit with him.
I go to his pleasant in California where his home office is,
go into his office and it's like, oh my god,
it was like the Hall of That was like the
Raiders Hall of Fame. Everything he had was all about

(46:23):
the Raids. It was. It was really a neat place
to be. It really was. And we had a great conversation.
We're talking and finally I said and said, well I
have that. I have that report that you wanted me
to to do.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Hey, that was like my house. Sounds like my house, coach, Yeah,
oh yeah, Well.

Speaker 6 (46:38):
She wants to go out and chase squirls and she's
kind of pissed off at me right now, give me
a minute, please, Okay, we'll be right. Come here, I'm here,
Come here. Good. So anyways, so he says to me, said,
what did you learn? I said, well, you know I learned.
I I kicked here and I punted there. And what
it made me realize is I was doing what was safe. Okay,

(47:00):
when I should have gone Ford on fourd down, get
the first down in the game, I didn't. And so
he made me realize I needed to start thinking through it.
And he says to me, he says, Ron, you've played
it up. You've coached us to know certain situations dictate
you take a chance. And that's when I learned. So
fast forward get into my third season. We're playing Minnesota.

(47:20):
In Minnesota and opening series, I go for it twice
on fourth down. In fact, we score on a fourth
and three on a shovel pass. Okay, on a shovel pass,
we scored. I did it again later in the game.
I went forward and fourth down, get the first down.
So after the game, they go up to the fans.
They started saying, boy, coach Rivera, what do you think
about him? You know, going for it on fourth down?
And oh, that's great. It's cool. Finally get this lune actas,

(47:43):
what do you think Coach Rivera going for it on
fourth down? He goes, oh my god, you can't. Oh,
Coach Rivera's out there like a riverboat dangrol. I'll tell
you that old riverboat rod. That was something else. And
that's how it started.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Doug coach. We really appreciate the time. And this is
not a question but just a very quick story that
I am happy to share a lot of times. But
a couple years ago before they limited the field because
actually they limited it, but I played in the Pebble
Beach Pro am and I was very excited because it
was the first time that they thought I was famous.
So I was like, this is cool. So I went
out and got to play and it was very brief,

(48:12):
but I saw you and you were there this a
couple of years ago, and I was like, I don't
want to go bother Coach Rivera, but I've always been
a massive fan of you and just your story and
sharing your story. And I said, hey, Coach Rivera, and
you sat and talked to me and my friend Eddie
for like ten minutes, and it was like nobody else
was in the room. And I tell people this story
all the time, and to be able to tell you

(48:33):
this back that you just like focused and talked football
to people that probably you didn't know if we knew
football or soccer, but you were so kind to us
for no reason whatsoever. And I just want to personally
say thank you for that ten minutes or so. That's
meant the world. And I just appreciate you today and congrats,
and I can't wait for you to coach again, because

(48:54):
whatever that is, I'll be rooting for you.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
Coach.

Speaker 6 (48:56):
I appreciate it, but I mean thanks for having me
on and again, just so you know, looking forward to
the Army Navy Game. Appreciate the association I have with.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
USA USA sponsored games since two thousand and nine. Army
Navy Game December fourteenth, Coach Ron Rivera, Thanks coach, have
a great day.

Speaker 6 (49:10):
All right, Thanks Bobby Sea coach.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
All right, I'm up with the board now. You guys
can watch this on YouTube, but I wa have the
bracket up ahead of me, and so here is who's
going to be your national championship, which, by the way,
Penn State got the luckiest straw in the history of draws.
Let's just say Penn State didn't even win. Now, they
didn't get a bye, but they got the luckiest draw ever.
We're gonna start down here with Texas and Clemson. So

(49:32):
down here we got Texas and Clemson. These is.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
I hate orange. I don't like any orange team.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
And they're all grouped together for you.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
You know, Texas Clemson. I wish they would just eliminate
the color orange. Maybe a big hole happens and they
both get sucked in. I don't want anybody to die.
I want everybody to live a happy and fruitful life.
But let's let's cancel football once the hole's in and
these two teams are now gone. But that being said,
we're gonna have. It's gonna hurt. It's gonna pain for

(49:59):
me to say this money just saying the band Texas
will be moving on because Clemson kind of sucks. And
here's the thing about Clemson, they're the only team to
like big time Me like Dado's big time Me like
four times to be interviewed every time. He's a little
too cool to come on the show. So of the
two oranges, I hate I hate Texas more, but Dado's

(50:21):
big Time me personally.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
So we're going Texas to the next round.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Go to the next round. Okay, well we got more orange.
We got Tennessee at Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Kevin's orange.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Yep, boom, big fan.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Here's the thing, don't do it. I don't hate that
orange as much as I hate the other two oranges.
I kind of dislike the orange because, well, I live here,
and I just get annoyed. You get annoyed when the
team around you wins whenever they playing the same conference
that you do. Now, Ohio State, I've heard people say
that maybe they should not play and they're going to

(50:55):
in Ohio State because if they go three and out,
bad start, it's going to be some boober boo birds.
But I do think Tennessee will be overwhelmed by the
fact that Ohio State just has bigger, better athletes. I
think Ohio State's coming out with something to prove. Ohio
State takes the third orange team down, Ohio State moves
to the next round. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
I can't get behind that.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Sorry you don't, Well, you don't have to get behind that.
Then asking you to get behind that. Actually, all right,
we're moving over here to the other side. Now up here,
we have Indiana and Notre Dame. This is not is
not a game.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
What do you mean it's it's a game. Now they're
going to play.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
This is not a game. Notre Dame is going to
as Akon said, smack that smack that give me some more.
It is and I like Indiana. I've been rooting for
Indiana all year. I think Signetti going why don't we
get a home game is a bit ridiculous, like you
should have gotten the playoff. I agree, but play somebody

(51:54):
if you're gonna complain about not getting a home team
home team. Notre Dame. We liked it for two reasons.
One because well they came on our show. They did
not big big dog, that's right. And I think they
just they just they just have more.

Speaker 9 (52:08):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Let's go over to s m U and Penn State.
You know what is this a game? It's not a game.
Checking The bad thing about it is for Penn State,
this is a noon game. They gotta play another noon game.
That sucks. It's not even a it's not even like
the Big Fox noon game. That's kind of what they
do though, Right, Well, they're gonna play this.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
One on like T N T.

Speaker 9 (52:31):
T.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yeah, it's impractical jokers. And then this game, but you're
gonna see Penn State kind of walk the dog, or
shall I say show walk the ponies. Penn State, who
I have just semi believed in, and they've been known
not to win the big game, and they did not
win the big game, by the way against Oregon, but
they didn't play again. But this is only a mid

(52:57):
game and they're gonna win the game. All right, bo
let's go back over here. Okay, we're gonna go here.
We'll go down here. First, we have Texas at Arizona State.
Here's the thing about Arizona State that's weird to me.
There's a little too much orange in them.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
It's tough.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
I'm anti orange. But they have a coach that's thirteen
years old, and that's pretty cool to me. To have
a coach that's in like seventh grade, that's super cool.
Has he been on our show?

Speaker 3 (53:19):
No?

Speaker 4 (53:19):
No, I like him, though I like him, said, he's
turned us down.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
He just hasn't been on our show.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
I think he's in school. I think he was in school. No,
I think he's like thirty six years old. And Kenny's
like thirty six years old. Arizona State looked really good.
It's gonna hurt. This is gonna hurt This is gonna
hurt me more than it's just gonna hurt me more
than the way than you guys. Texas is gonna win
this game, Arizona State with a heck of a run
so far. I think this guy would be closer than

(53:46):
most people think. But I'm gonna go. And it's not
in Texas, right, This is an actual bowl game. This
is the This is called the Orange Orange Bowl too?

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Is it Orange Bowl too?

Speaker 6 (53:56):
Peach Bowl?

Speaker 3 (53:56):
It should be the Orange Bowl.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
The Orange is orange teams, orange team. And all right,
so we got Texas over here, moving on, all right?
Up here on the top side, it's Ohio State Oregon.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Hey man, this is a game.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
This is like the game.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
How did Oregon get the worst draw?

Speaker 4 (54:09):
I know they got the Bible, they got.

Speaker 5 (54:12):
The worst draw.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
They're gonna play Ohio State again, which they barely beat
at the end of the game at home.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
Number one overall seed and you get that.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
Yeah, that sucks. I would blame that on Ohio State.
They're losing in Michigan. It's not the reason why they're
that low. Yeah, so uh Oregon is the best team
in college football.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Oh my gosh, who are you going to pick?

Speaker 5 (54:32):
Here?

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Ohio State, I think is the most talented team in
college football.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
The world famous Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
No, the Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (54:45):
Now they say the world famous. Now, I don't know
what that means.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
I think you're thinking of that fair back in New
York in like the nineteen twenties.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Yeah, KFC, ye, that's it.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Yeah, So up here, Ohio State, Oregon. We're going with
the big oh face. Okay, we're going back to the
side over here.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
That's Kevin's team, West Coast.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
You have too many teams, You're all right. We got
Penn State and we got Boise. Uh, it's just it's
another lion eating a pony the end. Yeah, Yeah, Penn
State eats the pony. Penn State's got a good run.
Penn State's gonna eat boys. I'm not saying I don't
root for them. This is not Bobby's picks of what
he dreams and desires. Because you were the punting assistant

(55:30):
coach at a junior high school, then you've got three
players and the boys long snapping coach, Kevin assistant coaches
and the Boise players we got the Niitney Lions. They're
gonna eat more horses, they're gonna get in the Semis
an upset.

Speaker 3 (55:45):
I guess they all come. But I mean, seriously, I
think the.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Fact that Penn State's got to play a week before,
I mean, there's symmetrician that could be possible with the players.
There's always that risk of uh being tired of being injured.
Sure could it okay, but Bois should not have gotten
a by The rules were weird. We can't do them anymore.
We used to give the first four teams. Penn State
goes the end. We got Georgia and Notre Dame. I

(56:12):
think we all know.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
I got one and that's.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
A bulldog Georgia. Bulldog's sec Oh, A lot of hisses,
A lot of hisses.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
Irish man.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Well you guys don't have the green screens.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Hey, Wor's now you're up on the screen.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
All right, fine, up two here, up on the old board.
We got Oregon and we got Texas. This is going
to be a absolute disaster. This might be the ugliest
game of the Semis. Texas might actually fold their football
program after this game, even though it's the Semis. So
Oregon Spanky Spanky Championship game over. On this side, we

(56:54):
got Georgia and we got Penn State.

Speaker 4 (56:59):
Georgias of course.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
In the middle here boom, here are the final two teams.
It's Georgia and Oregon. And now I have a heavy
SEC bias, I will admit.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
That, but but but come on, big fan of.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Big Fantas show. I do occasionally text with Dan Lanning
you everyone play? Now do I want to pick with
my heart or my head?

Speaker 3 (57:28):
You want to that stuff? I don't know. Head, Let's
go ahead, which top head?

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Cophead?

Speaker 3 (57:38):
I knew he was going there.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
Your answer is Georgia is second, Oregon wins. Yes, go Nucks,
And I'm not saying that. And it sucks to pick
the number one overall. See, it's such a lame thing
to do. But after watching them more and more, they
have a eleven options every play, Dylan Gabriel is awesome.

(58:04):
And then here are your national championships. The Oregon Ducks
who held up my face on a sign for like
four games, we can't still say what formation what they're
running there till after the season.

Speaker 3 (58:15):
They did on TV mention that Oregon had a special play,
and I thought they were talking about yours.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Mine's not a play. I can't say much more. Mine
is more of a set. When they say get the boners,
everybody with the boner goes out. I got yes, it
doesn't matter. Anybody with a boner runs out. It gets in.
There is the Bobby Brackett. Thank you very much. We

(58:42):
will see how it does.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Awesome and well done.

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Speaker 1 (59:57):
On with us Now my friend Zach from dorm Dudes,
which we do breaking of memorabilia at dorm Dudes breaks
on TikTok like that's how we know each other. But
we've hung out a lot, He's traveled with us. Zach's
a big sports fan, and Zach loves to bet like
we do, but for fun entertainment purposes only, right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Zach, of course that's right?

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Yes, How freely can I talk about your.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
Bets as freely as you want?

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
So I would say Zach is a guy that in business,
very smart, conservative but strategic, meaning he's not throwing a
bunch of money out too. So it's not like Zach
is like this guy that's like I just got to
throw money into gamble all the time. That's just not
a thing he'd likes to gamp. We all do, but
none of us are like degenerative where we're just like

(01:00:42):
we must get our bets in. So Zach's same way,
like very intelligent guy. I want to talk about who
knows this story in the room. I know it, Okay,
I do, And it's crazy, Okay, I don't you don't
Kevin this for you? This is gonna be a joy.
So last week, not that week this happened, but the
last week Zach parlayed every single game right in the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
It was.

Speaker 9 (01:01:07):
It was every single game on Sunday and Monday, because
I didn't have any of the Thanksgiving games.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Okay, and how many games was that?

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
You know? Eleven?

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
So he parlayed all eleven games.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
He pulled an eddie.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Yeah, hey, listening to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
This, And how did you parlay them? Did you go
money line? Did you go spread away?

Speaker 9 (01:01:26):
It was it was all money lines, so eleven different
money lines.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
And now there were a lot of upsets that weekend
so for ye that weekend to go money line, it
wasn't like he was betting all favorites. And trust me,
I've tried to do the all favorites that isn't worked out.
So you did an eleven game parlay of every team
that was playing all money lines? And how much did
you bet?

Speaker 6 (01:01:48):
So?

Speaker 9 (01:01:48):
I only put fifteen dollars down on it, which you
know now, I wish I would have put more, but
you know it's easy to put Monday night quarterback, I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
But it's eleven b it's eleven bets, right, Yeah, anything
other than that's a way good. Yes. Do you remember
what the odds are whenever you made that bet?

Speaker 6 (01:02:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:02:05):
It was it was plus thirty three thousand, so one off.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
So I didn't even know that was a thing, I know,
So say that again. It was plus thirty three thousand, Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:02:19):
Plus thirty three thousand, three hundred and thirty to one odds.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
So for every dollar he bets, it's three hundred he
hit every game.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Kevin, Oh my goodness, every underdog bet.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Can you read us some of the underdogs that won
that week where you had to take greater odds to
beat because the favorites we get it. We probably would
bet him too, But can you walk through some of
the underdogs there?

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Zag?

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
Yeah, So I had the Eagles.

Speaker 9 (01:02:44):
They were underdogs to the Ravens, which I don't know
what Vegas was thinking there. I honestly was happy to
take that one. And then I had the Steelers over
the Bengals as well, and the Bengals were at home,
so I thought that would.

Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
Be an easy win. And then the Seahawks.

Speaker 9 (01:03:00):
The Seahawks have been underdogs all year, and I've just
been riding with the Seahawks. They've They've won like the
last three weeks. So I've been cashing in with the Seahawks.
They were underdogs as well.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
Here we are they're playing.

Speaker 5 (01:03:09):
The Seahawks were against the Jets.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Okay, the Seahawks know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
They were by like one point in New York.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
All right, what about that Browns That game got pretty
close at the end though, Right when you bet the
brown and you're a Browns fan, if you had to
bet the Browns will lose.

Speaker 9 (01:03:24):
Yeah, And you know, here's what I'll say when it
comes to Ohio State.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
I'm Ohio State fan. I'm a Browns fan.

Speaker 9 (01:03:30):
I told myself I'm never going to bet on the
Browns or Ohio State, because if I bet for the
Browns and they lose, then I'm double upset. Yeah, and
if I bet against the Browns, then I'm hoping my
team's gonna lose. But I made one exception this time
because I wanted to pick all the games of all
the underdogs.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
You bet? What was the worst? Oiddes that when you
kind of scroll through there.

Speaker 9 (01:03:53):
Let's see, I think it was it was the Steelers
against the Bengals, which was very surprising.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
But he hit all eleven, so he put fifteen down
and one how much money.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
For fifteen dollars? What did you hit there, Zachie?

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
It was forty nine hundred bucks.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
Oh my gosh, yes, we should apply that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Fifteen dollars doing five thousand dollars now, that itself is remarkable,
especially because he did pick some underdogs as well. Now
do you mind if I continue to talk more about
your betting?

Speaker 5 (01:04:28):
Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
How much did you start with? I'm in this betting
cycle and just in general on your account.

Speaker 9 (01:04:34):
So I started with two hundred and fifty bucks, and
I was scrolling through TikTok, and you know, I'm seeing
all these people and it's like, oh, I'm ten and
one in my last eleven picks. Making money is so
easy on sports betting. So I was like, let's see
how easy it is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
Did you follow all those people or did you just
do it yourself?

Speaker 6 (01:04:53):
Now?

Speaker 9 (01:04:53):
I actually I followed them on one bet, and this
was before I even tried the two hundred fifty dollars thing,
and it lost, and I was like, forget this.

Speaker 5 (01:05:03):
I'm not listening to anybody else's ideas.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Okay. So I started with a couple hundred bucks, and
so how did you start betting? It was your first
bet to fifteen dollars into the four thousand, okay.

Speaker 9 (01:05:14):
I put it all on a three leg parlay, three
money lines, and it hit for like twelve hundred dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Okay. So he's two hundred to twelve hundred dollars now, okay,
So now you have twelve hundred bucks.

Speaker 9 (01:05:24):
Go ahead, And my goal I told all the guys
at the office. I was like, I'm not pulling out
any money until I get to two hundred and fifty thousand,
which is obviously very ambitious.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
Yeah, but I thought you're gonna say, like ten grandy, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
So you're you're at a couple hundred. Now you're at
like twelve hundred, so then what do you do next?

Speaker 9 (01:05:46):
So I actually that was in the early window, like
the one o'clock games that I made that twelve hundred,
So naturally I turned around and bet all my money
that I had my account on the Chiefs to cover
five and a half and this was a few weeks ago,
so they covered. So then I was up to like
twenty five hundred bucks I think, and I bet on
the night.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
Game, and I hit on the night game all of it.
So yeah, I hit.

Speaker 9 (01:06:08):
I bet spreads all day and hit each one. So
I hit the three League party in the early window,
the Chiefs game, and the four o'clock window, and then
the night game I hit to spread.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
On that one too, And then what are you at
the end of the night.

Speaker 9 (01:06:21):
I think I was up to like six thousand dollars
off of two hundred fifty bucks o case, so.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Far as two fifty to six thousand. Now at what
point do you take to fifteen dollars and try to
make that money? What you did?

Speaker 9 (01:06:33):
Well, actually that was to try and make some of
my money back because I continued to bet over the
next two weeks or so, and I was getting greedy.
I told myself, you know, you can't get greedy because
that's when you lose money. But I ended up taking
that two hundred and fifty to thirty seven thousand within
two weeks thirty seven.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
And I'll like you to listening to that. I would
like to say a couple of things here, what dang one?
I'd like to say, holy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Shit, Yeah, yeah, I think we're all thinking it thing too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Zach is not someone that's like I got all the
betting answers following me. He doesn't do He isn't gonna
TikTok and tell you who to bet, so he's not
here like bragging about bets. He literally he was over
at the house last Thursday, yeah, like three days ago,
and like we had a break, like a three minute break,
and he quietly was like, hey, I was gonna tell
you about some bets. I He wasn't like screaming it. It

(01:07:24):
wasn't the first thing he said when he got to
the house. He wasn't like, cand I come on the show.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
Nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
It was like I kind of have a cool story.

Speaker 6 (01:07:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
He was like, He's like, if you get a few
If you get a few minutes, can I tell you
a cool story? And he like ripped some like Tom
Brady helmet with semen on the face mask. Yeah, like
you can make your you know, like, because that's what
dorm dudes does. They break a bunch of really cool stuff.
And so he was like, I turned two hundred dollars
into how much thirty was it?

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
It was thirty seven thousand at one point?

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Last ford it. Yeah, I never Never're gonna get to
the other side of this, but he turned two hundred
and thirty seven thousand.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
Oh no, what you do?

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Well, So before we get there, let's all say if
that were us. Well, for first of all, some of
you guys don't have the nads to even play the
game correct. You would have cashed out like little chumps
and and but but chumps are good fifteen dollars bet
umps are good. No, no, no, chumps are actually smart. I
say chumps because I will be a bit extra aggressive
at times, and I should have been a chump. But

(01:08:21):
I live aggressive, so I'm not going to not be
aggressive at times because then I'll question myself, like why
wasn't aggresive that time when I made every other time,
but you guys are jumps, so that you got to
thirty something thousand and then do you tell your girlfriend?

Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:08:37):
I did.

Speaker 9 (01:08:37):
I was like, you know, because because one night actually
how it happened. I was we have kind of like
a hangout room at the office, and I was watching
the Dolphins game. And I'd never bet a bunch of
money on a single bet, but I had, like I had,
I think, like seventeen thousand dollars in my account at
this time, and I was like, I'm gonna put five
thousand dollars on the game and if I won, I
was gonna win twenty thousand. And Tyree Kill scores a touchdown.

(01:09:01):
He hasn't scored in like eight weeks, so the odds
for him to score were it was like plus two
hundred at the time, and he scores, and I just
jumped up and started screaming, and everybody's like, what's wrong
with you?

Speaker 5 (01:09:11):
But I just won twenty thousand dollars, So.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
Oh my gosh, I was going that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
I would have been screaming, peeing, poopy, vomiting, ran around
the night. I had tears out of my eyes. Yeah,
naked and everything, naked, Okay, so you get to thirty
five or whatever, that number one was thirty six thousand dollars,
and if it were me in the situation, and I
haven't been quite go from that little to that big,
but I've had some some success at times, we hitting
some good numbers. I tend to go this house money anyway,

(01:09:38):
let's give it a run and try to try to
mont and I'll cut a little off to make sure
that I'm still ahead from where I started. But I
get a bit too aggressive at times because I'm like,
first of all, if I started with two hundred, I'm
gonna put a thousand back that way if I lose
all this other thirty four thousand exactly, but I'm still
gonna hate myself what I do. But I'm put a
thousand back of the two hundred, and then I'm going
hard on thirty four to try to hit one hundred
or two. Like Zach said, Zach, and I he's yep,

(01:10:00):
way younger than that, But we are built in so similarly,
and just how we think about like business and house money,
and what do you do now, Zach, you're thirty six
thousand dollars.

Speaker 9 (01:10:11):
Well, exactly like you said, I used the house money mindset.

Speaker 5 (01:10:15):
And I actually called my dad.

Speaker 9 (01:10:17):
I was talking about it, and he's like, you should
take ten thousand out and then bet like twenty seven
thousand on one thing to try and hit this to him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Oh, your dad's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:10:24):
Yeah, I love your dad though, I love your dab.
Your dad's not a chump.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
But because that's the crap I would have done too,
but that I lost it for sure.

Speaker 10 (01:10:29):
That's a man with who already has money saying that
because like me, Like, but.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
I don't think you're not right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
You're not right.

Speaker 10 (01:10:37):
Zach doesn't come from money. No, I mean, but he
has money now, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
Oh God, I thought you were saying like that's a
rich guy. No, no, that's not it, because a rich
guy's starting a two hundred and freaking out when he
gets at thirty thousand. Yeah, okay, so your dad gives
you that advice, then what happens.

Speaker 9 (01:10:50):
Well, I didn't take his advice, and I just went
ahead and bet almost all of it and lost thirty
two thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Any hey, hey, win comes then comes cold the way
you become a chump. Guys, Zach, how much did you
end up winning overall, what did you cash out at?

Speaker 6 (01:11:08):
So?

Speaker 5 (01:11:08):
I actually never cashed out.

Speaker 9 (01:11:10):
I took that boy three thousand dollars and that's when
I went into this last weekend.

Speaker 5 (01:11:15):
So I bet three hundred dollars on a four leg parlay.

Speaker 9 (01:11:18):
I hit twenty two hundred off of that, and then
I did the fifteen dollars to win the five thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
God that was So what are you at now?

Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
So now I'm at once this bet cash is tonight.

Speaker 9 (01:11:31):
Hopefully when the Bengals win, I'm going to be at
fourteen thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
So so you need the so okay, So hold on
a second. All that eleven team win is over. Now
you got your money on that one. That was after
you went from thirty thousand way down yep, okay, And
so now how much do you have before this bet
hits tonight or doesn't hit?

Speaker 5 (01:11:52):
So I have nine thousand?

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Okay, Well those bet hits and then you have how
much in on the Bengals?

Speaker 5 (01:11:58):
So I have two thousand in on it.

Speaker 9 (01:12:00):
It was a two leg parlay the Lions, which is
why I was excited when we were down there streaming
at your house and then the Bengals and it was
a two lake parlay. Both of them are favorited, but
somehow the odds are plus one twenty eight when I
parlayed it together.

Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
So I don't take that any day.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
If the Bengals hit tonight, that payoff will.

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
Be forty five hundred bucks, so I'll profit twenty five hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
And if the Bengals hit tonight with that forty five
hundred plus what you have now, your total will be
fourteen thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
It's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
I mean, at worst case scenario, he went from two
hundred and nine thousand. So this is what I'm gonna say.
I'm going to give you advice now because I much
like you, and I sometimes need somebody that I trust,
and I don't trust any of these douches. You're not
bad guys. You're not bad guys, but were douches only
in like one percent of life. But you guys always
Kevin actually not that douchey when it comes to betting.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
I want to think he'd be them oh when it
comes to it, guy, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Yeah, So would you mind accepting a bit of advice?

Speaker 5 (01:13:03):
Yeah, I'm happy to accept advice.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
If you lose the bet tonight and you're just with
nine thousand dollars. Okay, take out twenty five hundred, take
out my one hundred, and that goes into your money,
and you're done, and don't mess with that twenty five hundred.
If later on you want to bet again, it's all
fun thing, But take out twenty five hundred and then
use that sixty five hundred and then rebuild and have
fun and do whatever. Take twenty five hundred out because

(01:13:26):
you just entertained the crap out of yourself for multiple
weeks and made two hundred, twenty three hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
And that's what it's all about, right, Entertainment, Yes, you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
Say entertainment, I think anxiety.

Speaker 1 (01:13:37):
But anxiety. You shouldn't be betting. If there's anxiety. That's
the point of it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:41):
Though.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
If there's crazy anxiety on what you're.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
Gonna lose my five dollars, bets are entertainment. Thirty two
thousand dollars is anxiety?

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
Zach? Hold are you?

Speaker 5 (01:13:50):
I'm twenty two?

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
I want to I want to give Zach. I want
to give Zach a better again. I want to give
Zach a better props here because Zack's been hustling like
yard businesses, like this guy is entrepreneur like crazy doesn't
come from much. Has like figured out that if he
puts his mind to something and learns and focuses, he
may not hit every time, but he's gonna hit. This
is not gambling we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
This is your general life life.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
So he the anxiety, he's not going to have anxiety
if he is. If he's going to bet, he's gonna
make sure he doesn't have anxiety when he bets, unless
it's like fun anxiety. He's not going to bet where
he's like, oh my god, I can't even freaking pay
my apartments. And he's been very successful. Yeah, and so
I'm rooting for that Bengals one tonight.

Speaker 4 (01:14:34):
We all are, Zach, No, not yet.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
I appreciate it absolutely awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
And also Eddie wants to cowlways to get a better
draft pick.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
That's correct. Correct, Hey, Zach, let me ask you this though,
how often are you thinking about that forty what is it?
Forty eight thou I think about that? I might just
want to ask his mind, like I want to see
how his mind works. I think it was thirty thirty
eight thousand.

Speaker 9 (01:14:54):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know, the night after I
lost all that money I was thinking about it, because
what happened was that I didn't just put, you know,
the thirty thousand dollars on one bet. It was like,
I bet ten thousand dollars and then I did exactly
what I told myself you can't do, and I got
greedy and I was like, oh, I'll make it all back.
So I bet ten thousand dollars on the next game,
and I lost.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
And beg I chased like crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
Tripled down on it. Now, you said you told your
girlfriend that you want all that money. What'd you tell
her when he lost it?

Speaker 9 (01:15:21):
Though, Well, it's funny that Bobby actually said that about
the anxiety thing, because she asked me the same question.
She was like, you always talk about how your job
can be so stressful and you want to come home
and you know, just relax a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:15:34):
And I'm like, well, it's.

Speaker 9 (01:15:35):
Fun anxiety, you know, I'm standing up on the couch
screaming at the TV.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
It's fun.

Speaker 5 (01:15:40):
So I lost it. I told her.

Speaker 9 (01:15:41):
I was like, it was house money, you know, I
really never had it to begin with. That's how I
thought of it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
It's like buying bitcoin or stocks. Unless you cash it out,
it ain't even money. Yet it's just more. Yeah, it's
more weapons to fight the war. And sometimes the e
attrition happens and you lose, and I would take twenty
five hundred out even right this second and not go
back to it. But you're still gonna have another six
thousand to keep playing even if you lose tonight. But
if you win tonight, keep all that money in. But

(01:16:06):
the twenty five hundred did didn't go hard because eventually
it's probably gonna be gone anyway. But like every time
I hit big, I sliver it out. I sliver a
little something out. I slivered out what I started with,
or like ten percent more than what I started with.
Because then I really can't be mad at myself, because heck,
I won and got all the entertainment of like betting.
Like I had a big bet, which we talked about earlier.

(01:16:26):
I bet Alabama before the college football playoff and they
probably weren't gonna get in. I put twenty five hundred
on them to win the national championship, to win like
fifty thousand dollars, and I knew that the odds are
they probably weren't gonna get in. But I felt like
if the committee could manipulate it, they would. Turns out
since a lot of stuff happened that didn't have you know,
and Alabama didn't get in. But I'm cool with that

(01:16:48):
because I I've had a really good year. I think
I've probably this year been up probably eighteen or nineteen
thousand dollars, which isn't always the case. I've had years
where I'm down. But if I can't afford it, I
don't bet it. And I was like twenty five hundred
and fifty thousand, and I'm already up. And then I
hit the only bet that I told everybody last week

(01:17:09):
to bet, Remember the one bet we did the parlay
and I'm like, don't trust my parlays.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
The one bet I remember, I said one bet.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
I said, this is the only bet that I feel
super comfortable with and the odds aren't for it. But
I said, what Georgia not just Georgia money line, Georgia
money line, and bro I hit that for like two
grand overall, so that basically paid for my Alabama bet.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
I like, how you look at it? You know. Zach
was telling me that when he hit the eleven game parlay,
the APP was like, hold up. He had a call
him Investigate had a call him because the odds were
so big that the app was like, hold on, we
got to look into this.

Speaker 9 (01:17:44):
Yeah, I had no idea that was even a thing.
But I guess if the odds are over three hundred
to one, you have to, like it either takes like
a month to cash out or you have to call them.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
So three hundred to one for because my on drivekings,
I guess you can make it look like that, but
I do. That would be thirty thousand plus thirty thousand, right, yeah, yeah,
because plus three hundred I do all the time. I'll
lose I'll lose those all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
That's three.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Yeah, that's like okay. So in conclusion, Oh, you want
to hear a funny story Zach about Reid. You know read?
You know read well, Oh yeah, read read Read, and
you know what everybody loves read. Read is the greatest
I would if like I was looking for like a
stable man with a good heart to marry, to settle down. Yeah,

(01:18:31):
I even genetically he's like tall looking, like if I
was gonna have a kid with like, Read's awesome, little
goofy but little goofy and goofy, but it's like weirdly athletic,
and and I've got a theory on him. I think
he's more athletic than we give him credit for. He's
just way out of shape.

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
That's fair, I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
And he's gotten a little soft on the body. But
but but but he's starting to like work hard, and
you're starting not only to see the squish go away,
but you're starting to see his athleticism come through more
because he has the ability to play harder and longer
and work harder. It's been awesome to see he's been
eating better. So I think read. My point is I'd

(01:19:10):
have a baby with Reid. So that being said, I
love reading so many ways, a little bit of plus
sometimes I was waiting for it a little bit. But
he is the best, and Read is the kindest. And
Reid was winning so much, not at your level, but
he was like making how much were you betting on
these parlays when you first started? I spent like two

(01:19:34):
bucks these parlays and like picking crazy odds and he'd
won like two thousand and we're like, why'd you bet that?
And he's like, I don't know. I just thought that
letters look good to get, and he was winning so
much Zach that he called the hotline to ask him
to cut him off.

Speaker 10 (01:19:49):
Well, it's different because I had no money at the time,
so I was in no place to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
But you were winning. I was winning. It wasn't that
he was losing. And called the number, which we think
if you have a problem, called the number. Sure, tell
them what you did, y, tell them how you did it?

Speaker 10 (01:20:01):
Yeah, man, I mean I called him up and I
was like, hey, I got a problem money.

Speaker 1 (01:20:04):
I need some help.

Speaker 4 (01:20:05):
And they're probably thinking a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Oh, you you're having a problem. You're telling your wife
you've lost your money, and then you said what.

Speaker 10 (01:20:13):
Yeah, And then I just told him if can you
lock my account? And they were like yeah, sure, and
so I went in and it was just like a
reset your password thing. It wasn't really locked out.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
So I called him back.

Speaker 10 (01:20:21):
I was like, hey, it's still not really locked.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
You tried to reset your passwording out back?

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
Yeah, I was testing it. I was testing it.

Speaker 10 (01:20:28):
I was like, it's not really locked. And so they're like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah,
we'll make sure now. And so now it is suspended,
so I would have to call him to unlock it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
He locked his account because he was winning too much
and was afraid of all the winning.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
That's so smart.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
Tell me that's not the kind of guy you want
to marry and have a baby. Wait, yeah, Zak is awesome, dude. Okay,
we're gonna be rooting for you tonight, and we're gonna
rooting for the Bengals.

Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
I might put a dollar on it now.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
The problem, but the Bengals are probably the favorite by themselves,
right they are?

Speaker 6 (01:20:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
Is it in Dallas?

Speaker 3 (01:20:58):
Though it is in Dallas and we don't in Dallas,
so that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
Let me look real quick. I want to like the DraftKings.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
We haven't won in Dallas because I think so.

Speaker 5 (01:21:06):
I got him at minus two thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
Yeah, so that's a pretty big favorite. I mean, do
I want to ride with him?

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
Hey, d ride with them?

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
But it's minus two thirty, so it's not like the
I'm gonna get much for it, but do.

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
It like he does. Put that twenty five hundred on there.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Well, I can go the Bengals minus five, but you
want money line, right, because I don't want to not
win if you don't win, Okay, I win.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
I got him at minus two twenty five, so let's
say I put that's not enough.

Speaker 9 (01:21:35):
Hey, I mean I think the Bengals are one of
the best four and eight teams I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Well, they have no defense. I mean they score one
hundred points, but they can't they can't stop anybody.

Speaker 9 (01:21:47):
Well, I agree, but I mean not to crap on
Eddie's Cowboys, but you know they're playing a backup quarterback,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
Cooper Rush though. Man, have you heard of him?

Speaker 5 (01:21:56):
Yeah, I've heard of him.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
Oh good, Okay, you backup, Okay, I'm gonna put.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
A lot. This is awesome, your brain is awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:22:11):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
The problem is it's just like it's minus two twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
Yeah, that's just that's the problem.

Speaker 10 (01:22:18):
So you got to put a good amount of money on.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
There just to make anything. And then the Cowboys have
been winning. I've kind of been rooting for the Cowboys
lately just because.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
Oh, you do have a bet that possible, mathematically possible.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
Okay, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna put three thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
I'm talking about you like that, but I'm only gonna
win forty.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
But it's only a thirteen hundred profit only, meaning per
the three that's all right, I'm in hold on. I'm
gonna make the bet here.

Speaker 9 (01:22:48):
Throw a little jamar chase ten yards in the first quarter,
and then you'll be at like even odds.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Dang together.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
So you guys play.

Speaker 5 (01:22:57):
If you want to.

Speaker 4 (01:22:58):
This is not financial advice, betting advice with Zach.

Speaker 10 (01:23:01):
I feel like then the first quarter, if it loses,
then you just are sad the rest of the game.

Speaker 5 (01:23:06):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
That that is the I'm gonna go with what I do.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
I'm gonna go with what I do.

Speaker 1 (01:23:09):
I'm gonna bet three thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
That was like the guy to bet three million.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Dude almost lost it with a freaking Panthers for four
hundred grand and Bryce, So I made a perfect throw. Okay,
let's see, I bet. Let's see if it's gonna let
me do it. Okay, boom, all right, man, I'll show.
I'll send you guys a bet slip.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
There you go. You got a roll dog now, Zach.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
I just want to I just want to rivee on
my guy, you know. Okay, So I bet three thousand
to win forty three three, three thirty three. And I'm
also gonna say this, let me save my image here
that if the Bengals go down early. I'm probably gonna
jump on it even more. I want to have better rides. Yeah,

(01:23:57):
because if I okay, let's see boom, hold on done,
save boom.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
All right. What's funny too, is you guys don't cash
out right like every No, no, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:24:07):
I If I'm playing and I win a lot, I will,
I will sliver me so if I lose it, all
I still had a profit.

Speaker 3 (01:24:14):
Now I'm talking about I'm talking about the cash out
option during the while the BET's still live.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
Oh almost almost never, Yeah, I use that now.

Speaker 5 (01:24:23):
I've honestly never cashed out yeah boom.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
And I have, so I can't say never, but almost never.
The only time I'll cash out is I don't feel
if I'm seven games in an eight game parlay and
I've bet like ten bucks or whatever, and I'm tired,
don't want to watch the game, and i don't want
to like not be able to fall asleep and keep
checking it, and I'm just like, I'm just going to
cash out and take the extra that makes sense. Or
like Arkansas, like they were Arkansas play UTSA this past
weekend and it was like Arkansas was down like four

(01:24:49):
and a half, and I was like oh, we're going
to drill them. And it was Arkansas minus seven, and
so I put like a thousand bucks on Arkansas minus
seven at the half. In the live game, end up
beating On by fifteen and we were up by twelve,
and I had to go into like a meeting and
I'm like, I'm not going to stick around and watch.
So I saved myself like eighty bucks just to not
worry about the stress of So I'll cash out like that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
I mean sometimes really it goes to like two dollars,
like why would I cash out of it's difference, Well
I would cash Oh no, no, I do cash out because.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
The resk versus the two dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:25:18):
All right, Zach, buddy, let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
I'm riding with you man. Mangles uh. That's super cool story.

Speaker 3 (01:25:26):
That's a dude. I've already told my wife that story.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
You guys, I go and check out dorm dudes breaks.
They come over to the house and Edie and I
just break stuff, break stuff like it's in like memorabilia
like limb biscuit. Yeah yeah, move in, move out, hands down.
I did it. And Zach, you can verify this when
you're at my house and we're doing breaks, and I'm in.
I spend my own money.

Speaker 6 (01:25:49):
He does.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
Yeah, it's not like Zach's like I'm I. I'm there
pushing spending my own Why don't you know there's a
lot of times I don't win, but I hit a
Roger Stallback Dallas Cowboys helmet.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
They had a Christian Watson Packers Jersey. I had a
couple other Oh, I had a I had a college
helmet from somebody Ohio State camp.

Speaker 4 (01:26:11):
Cam Heyward, Yes, Cam Heyward helmet.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
Let's go check out dorm. Dude, breaks, I love him.
I'm obsessable with them, know them forever and that's it,
all right, Zach. Good to talk to you, buddy, and
we will. Dude, Let's go Bengals. I'll be texting your time.
I'll be texting, all right you, Zach. A couple of things.
Bill Belichick interviewed for the North Carolina job, which is
hilarious random. Yeah. I saw the guys, and I gotta

(01:26:40):
give Fox a bunch of credit because witty as crap
like Cleverest crap. They had Gronk, Brady and Edelman. They
sit on a panel and they call him the Fox bros.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
Oh Foxborough. That's pretty good one.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
I couldn't stop thinking about it because it's like five.
They put a dot and it says bro And so
they're up on a panel at Fox and like one
of the other guys asking them questions, and I was like,
more than the Belichick talk they were doing. I was like,
whoever thought of that? Give him a raise? The Fox bros?
Foxborough and they're on Fox. That's crazy, that's good. But
Brady was like, no way, he can't. You're gonna see

(01:27:18):
him recruiting. You get an eighteen year old's couch.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
It's a lot of work.

Speaker 1 (01:27:23):
I thought it was fun. I thought that Belichi, what
do you think about that?

Speaker 4 (01:27:25):
He said it was heating up.

Speaker 1 (01:27:26):
Did you see though? Our guy some raw at Tulane.
They were kind of going, hey, we hear you up
for the North Carolina job, and I kind of like
how we handled it. He was like, dude, right now,
like we're doing this, but everybody's like trying to like
find their way, Like, no, I'm not going to North
Carolina right now, maybe never, who knows.

Speaker 4 (01:27:48):
But I liked it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:49):
He was just like we're all trying to like grow
and do new things. So I'm like ever gonna say no.
I was like, that's about the most legit answer you
can give, giving.

Speaker 4 (01:27:57):
An answer political answer.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
It was a it's a little grittier than the normal
where he's like, I'm here right now, I'm the coach
of this team, because that's kind of the answer you've
give in that situation. But he was like, I don't
gonna talk about that right now. He goes, Look, we're
all trying to grow and get better and and you know,
I'm but right now, this is it. We're here, we're
doing this. I got a bowl game. But who knows,
you know, I liked it. I like that guy. Maybe

(01:28:21):
kids just came on the show. I don't know, but
he also knew the show. Maybe I like that's like
him more. He knew the show where dabout thumbs down
exactly on a big time US like ten times in
a row. Uh, that's the news. I didn't wait till
the end of the show to do this for nothing.
I did it because I wanted to give it a second.
But our guy here kick off, Kevin got engaged.

Speaker 4 (01:28:42):
Yeah, thank you boy, thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:28:47):
Are you ready?

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
How to go?

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
It went great?

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
When everything is went as played? Had her parents involved
at her family's house out there in Alabama. I was
a little nervous for sure that everything, you know, you're
playing all this. I hired a photographer, all that, and
it all went smooth, all went well. The only thing
that didn't go well was my dog eating all the rose,
the flower petals. Yeah, and the thirty minutes later he

(01:29:10):
was thrown it all up. But other than that, we're
all good. He's a dog. That's what you're gonna do.
She loved it, she loves the ring. She was crying.
It was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Hi, Hey Kevin up and I was like, hey, congrats.
And then on the group chat, I said, hey, what
was the parlay because I actually forgot and I was like, well,
it's gonna take this to hit for Kevin. Have a
good marriage. The first two hit, but then I forgot.
I told her abody to cash out, So your marriage
is good. You're saying, oh yeah, because after they didn't hit,
I was like, oh, this is doomed time. But since
I told her abody to cash out, you're good.

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
Yeah, Oh I cash out, We're good.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Good.

Speaker 4 (01:29:36):
It's gonna be a long one. I thought that meant
the first two years are good.

Speaker 1 (01:29:39):
But then did you bet the parley?

Speaker 6 (01:29:40):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
Okay, no, because yeah, no I got I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
Yeah, I know what you're saying. Well, it wasn't. I
was living in a place where he could bet it
God and got it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Meaning you just wann't a state where it was able
to be. Why are guys acting all weird?

Speaker 3 (01:29:54):
I don't know. I'm not acting weird, man, Why are
you acting?

Speaker 4 (01:29:57):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
Because when the ship? Oh my god, Sometimes you guys
are weird for no reason and sometimes.

Speaker 3 (01:30:03):
Because during the break I was about to say something,
but you guys are like, don't what to say.

Speaker 1 (01:30:08):
I know, but there's a different It doesn't matter, dude,
that's on me. I should train you better.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
You should Jedi training.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Okay, I do want to go to this kid.

Speaker 3 (01:30:19):
Oh yeah, there's the kid you tease waiting. Early in
the show.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
There's cursing in this everybody and it's probably gonna even
put the up the explicit on the podcast, but I
flipped it through TikTok and this guy that is a
TikTok football he's like probably like thirty and he plays
plays NCAA football and he just plays people and you know,
the top half screens him with his head set on
the bottom half screens him playing. But he's playing this
kid who is twelve years old, and the streamers King Caruso,

(01:30:47):
the adult, he's playing this kid who is twelve. You guys,
I could not stop laughing.

Speaker 4 (01:30:51):
Hit it, Mike, thank you, bitch made boy.

Speaker 5 (01:30:54):
Let's just strat the fuck up, bitch, Fuck you little bitch.
This is a girl man's game.

Speaker 6 (01:30:58):
Aggressive, aggressive back shots on josh On fucked you, bitch,
I fucking oh you.

Speaker 5 (01:31:03):
It's raw dog in here. We're rolling here, bitch, we're.

Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
Wrong, we're.

Speaker 5 (01:31:09):
Bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
So it is Madden, not in C double A. And
you don't hear the adult because he's just sitting there.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
Like what's happening? It shot.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
There's more if you want, here's King Crusoe. He got
so annoyed the King curse was. The adult got so
annoyed with him. He started telling him, well, you can
hear it.

Speaker 8 (01:31:25):
Shut your little lass up, Davin, you don't even all
have to watch a PG thirteen movie.

Speaker 5 (01:31:29):
Shut your little lass.

Speaker 6 (01:31:31):
Sarah pulsed his face.

Speaker 5 (01:31:32):
Bitch, Sam closed his face.

Speaker 8 (01:31:34):
I don't get.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
He's dead.

Speaker 5 (01:31:37):
I know I did.

Speaker 6 (01:31:38):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
Fuck Sandswood.

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
He was catching straight.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
I watched two and a half minutes the video. Can
I stop laughing? My wife's like, what are you laughing
at him? Like a twelve year old cursing and adult.
She goes, oh, I watch the kid do that? You
an NBA once. I was like, that's right, I know,
so sorry. We don't normally put the cussing stuff in,
but I thought if it was beeped, it would not
have the same effect.

Speaker 4 (01:32:00):
You wouldn't be able to play.

Speaker 1 (01:32:05):
Uh. And then finally NFL review we can give our thoughts.
You know, there were some good games overall C minus week. Yeah,
I mean there were some good there were some who
cares even the games that were good, something like the
Dolphins and Jets, it was like, has ended up being
a pretty interesting game at the end, but like who
cares no offense case that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
Right We lost, So that was great, But I mean
the Chiefs game was kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
I fell asleep.

Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
The Bill's Rams game was probably the best. Yes, yes, Superman,
Josh Allen, We'll roll through.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
The real quick. Dolphins and Jets. Dolphins thirty two, Jets
twenty six two. In the Dolphins come back in overtime
for the win. At times, Aaron Rodgers looked really good.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Yeah, Gary Wilson and DeVante did their thing.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Thank god they did not trade Garrett Wilson. Whenever it
was like DeVante's coming, Thank god.

Speaker 3 (01:32:51):
We need him a long run.

Speaker 6 (01:32:53):
Yeah, you can.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
You can start to see flashes now when he has
somebody on the other side of him and somebody who
can get the ball to him right like he dud
he legit.

Speaker 3 (01:33:00):
Yeah, he's great.

Speaker 1 (01:33:01):
Yeah. So Dolphins win keeps him in the playoff hunt
a bit. They're one game under. I think that Bengals
loss was not good for them. I think it was
last week, right, and they needed.

Speaker 6 (01:33:11):
To win that one.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
Packers, oh, Packers.

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
It was Packers. Yeah, thank you. But they look pretty good.
And Tyreek. I did see a stat before the game.
He's had more babies this year than the touchdown passes.
He still got at He had five babies and had
four touchdown passes, but then he did catch it at
least one touchdown.

Speaker 9 (01:33:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
Vikings Falcons Vikings forty two, Falcons twenty one. The game
was a little closer than the score indicates, but I'll
tell you what. Sam Donald five touchdowns. Yeah, dude, awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:33:49):
Jayden Daniels was on a buye on one of my
fantasy teams. I just picked up Donald.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
Got great smoking. Let me tell you. I had uh
Uh not Bryce Young, I had Brie I'm getting my
Breece's Hall had Breece Hall. Yeah, and it had uh
Seattle running back Ken Kenneth Walker, Snith Walker both.

Speaker 3 (01:34:12):
I picked up Sharp and Night thank god.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
Yeah, going into and Sharpeney was not available going into
my final week that I needed to get in the playoffs,
they both were out. I had c. J. Stroud in
my quarterback and Nico Collins my wide receiver. My whole
team was out.

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
Yeah, it's tough.

Speaker 1 (01:34:25):
It was a tough week, not even that I had
my two best running backs get hurt called out right
before the game.

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
So it wasn't even the buye.

Speaker 1 (01:34:31):
So I lost. It was terrible. Defending champion lost it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:36):
I saw you dropped Courtland Sutton too, and I.

Speaker 4 (01:34:38):
Had to because I did.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
Everybody was on buy and if I made it, I
couldn't have all my bye guys not be there next week.
So I had to drop a good player in order
to pick up the freaking Bears running back. I was
like to for something I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:50):
Yeah, I started drinking. He dropped Courtland Sutton.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
And you know I started at quarterback. Was Cooper Rush
had nothing? No, I had nothing. Okay, it doesn't matter,
that's not you might come back with Cooper down like
eighty ever know, Okay, Eagles and Panthers. Hey, that guy
that bet three million bucks, his butt was puckered. Dude,
Bryce young Is he.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
Had to get on that one pass right at the end.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
There were times he was fourth down in the end
zone and like he was, he's he's good. Yeah, yeah,
I'm not gonna go great yet, but he's good. He
plays on a bad team, but he's good. Like he's
that dude. Okay, cool Steelers Brown Not much of a game, Uh,
Steelers went again. Not much of a game. I did
see Jamis stole like a pick six into a screen

(01:35:39):
with a pick six interception, and then Jamis still really
good at the end of the game to Djoku. But
you know, Jameis ain't the guy, but he's a fun
guy to have when you when you don't have a guy.
H Bucks raiders Baker through two touchdowns at the very
beginning of the game is never really a game. I
did see that brock Bauer sets the rookie record for receptions,
which is pretty cool. And there's one bunch of gas left.

(01:35:59):
He's domina U, Seahawks, Cardinals. Who cares the games? Who
the game?

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
The Cardinals not good? I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
Rams Bills, Yeah, that's a big one.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
I don't get it. Yeah, you don't get what how
the Cardinals can't win game?

Speaker 1 (01:36:13):
Oh yeah, we moved on Rams Bills.

Speaker 3 (01:36:17):
No, I get that. I get the I mean that
was a great game. Yeah, I mean but what I
don't understand though, is one week the Rams can't connect
like with a receiver like Stafford can't connect with Pookah
like was.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
Crazy he was.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Yeah, he went off this game and then this game
they just looked unstoppable as an NFL for you man,
any given Sunday, dude. So what they say, that's what they.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
Say, fake or something early on or fake.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
I didn't see that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:42):
In that game.

Speaker 1 (01:36:43):
Yeah, something, because they were like, look it does matter.
Two games left forty nine ers the Bears did. Uh again,
I was watching that one on the old red zone. Yep,
and so.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
Did They didn't go to them alive, right, did.

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
Party get hurt again he go down or was it
just what they were just showing him down?

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
Once?

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
Worried about him because it was just like a we're
showing every touchdown.

Speaker 4 (01:37:04):
Then your boy from Arkansas came in, right, Brandon now Brandon.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
New Yeah he started last week?

Speaker 4 (01:37:10):
Yeah, yeah, but no, I think he went back in Okay, nine.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
To feet the Bears and then the Chiefs beat the
Chargers on the DNK end the film, of.

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
Course, Dwink crazy, I bet, I bet Chiefs last minute.
I did a Zach on that and it was like
minus two and a half. And I'm like, oh gosh,
that's such a mistake because like, either way if they
did a field goal or if the Chargers scored a
touchdown and they came back and score a touchdown, it
would be a two point spread. So I don't even
know why I did it, but man, I would have

(01:37:38):
been so I put all in. I had one hundred
and fifty bucks on that. Dwink saved me.

Speaker 1 (01:37:43):
You got it, got it, Thank you guys for being here.
Let's go Bengals tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:37:48):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
For Zach's sake, Well, I mean I also for three
thousand dollars and you commute and Zach but only went
like fourteen hundred. I was just rolling on my dude. No,
I don't know why I get caught up in that crap.

Speaker 3 (01:37:59):
I want to you want to support people.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
I don't feel the need to bet like. I never
have a like I got a bet on something. I
don't have that itch. I like to bet for fun
because if I was betting for an itch, I'd be
betting a twenty five dollars a bet if it was like,
I gotta get to make me feel something I don't.
It's fun. But I just wanted to, like ride with
my boy. Yeah, but then I'm like, why did I
do that? Just do the bit?

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
Are you doing basketball bets yet? Not yet.

Speaker 1 (01:38:21):
I didn't even really do any NFL bets yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:38:24):
That's good if you don't feel it, I bet I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
I didn't do a single NFL bet.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
I'm not like that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
I bet that. I bet the Georgia game. I bet
the parlay but didn't cash out. Forgot to catch it
out because I forgot. We said that I Alabama. But
I bet that last two weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
Yeah, man, I'll tell you what's cool about being in
a football game, like one of the Titans game and
betting that it's so delayed, like me and my kids counted,
like about a thirty second delay on like whatever happened
on the field versus where everything kind of counted, fantasy counted, uh,
scores counted, and like, so that was that was a
lot of fun betting live at the game.

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
College games is not until next weekend, not this weekend,
coming up in next weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
Yeah, and a army one again eleven one should have
been love and one.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
Yeah one, Uh, except they got run by Notre Dame.
Like run hard by Notre Dame, run hard.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
But if they win this weekend, they're gonna be thirteen
and one. Not in the playoffs. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:39:21):
And if they only got run hard by Notre Dame,
it definitely would.

Speaker 3 (01:39:23):
Have been in Poor guys, Love America though.

Speaker 1 (01:39:26):
That's it. Thank you guys, We will see you later
on this week.

Speaker 6 (01:39:29):
Bye, but.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
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If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

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