January 19, 2025 • 46 mins
In this weekly series, we share highlight clips from the past week of some of the podcasts on The Nashville Podcast Network- In The Vet's Office with Dr. Josie (no episode this week), Take This Personally with Morgan Huelsman, The BobbyCast, 4 Things with Amy Brown, Sore Losers, Movie Mike's Movie Podcast and Get Real with Caroline Hobby. You can listen to new episodes weekly wherever you get your podcasts.
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-4 Things with Amy Brown- @RadioAmy
-Sore Losers- @SoreLosersPodcast
-Movie Mikes Movie Podcast- @MikeDeestro
-Get Real: @GetRealCarolineHobby
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Hey guys, back with another Sunday sampler. On the Bobby Cast,
I sat down with Grammy winning songwriter Daniel Tashin. Daniel
talks about working with the Ringo Starr and why his dad,
who actually worked with the Beatles, did not want him
to go into music. That's coming up. I do want
to start though, within the Vets Office with Doctor Josie.
(00:29):
It's all about pet allergies. What do we deal with
this a lot? And what to do if your pet
has allergies. Doctor Josie and her guest doctor Isabella share
how they diagnose different allergies and how they can be
managed by you guys long term. So let's get started.
Here's a clip from this week's in the Vets Office
with Doctor Josie.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
You're listening to In the Vets Office with Doctor Josie Horschak.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
All right, we are back with our pot and order
for the week.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Number one on the list.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I would never ever do the saliva and blood testing
when testing for allergies, and my pets agreed.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
I there are so many like over the counter.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yes, blood, you can buy them on the internet.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Saliva, the hair, yeah yeah, those tests and they're just
we don't have any evidence that those are accurate, and
then ultimately it just makes it more challenging for us
trying to interpret them.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
When we don't know what's real and what's not. I
totally I think you're wasting your money. If you're going
to put your money towards something, I would not put
it towards that. These are we don't even like the
people that are making them aren't like vetted. So you're
just buying something on the internet. You're getting caught in
an Instagram scam. Definitely, And I'm the queen of that people. Yes,
but this is one I would not fall for.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Yeah, No, never, all right.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Number two, I would not put anything in my pet's
ears that is not veterinary recommended.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
This one's very popular. Yes, we have clients coming in
all the time for with dogs with ear infections, and
we ask are you using anything for maintenance ear cleaning?
And they say, oh, yeah, yeah, I've been putting in
my vinegar.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And when I hear vinegar going in the ear, I
think I die a little inside.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Yeah, people have some weird concoctions. I'm sure it's on TikTok.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
But on it most slow is another thing. Coconut oil.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Yes, and the ear is already hot, hot, dark moist,
so you're just adding more moisture in there. It can
be tearing up the ear canal.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yes, and that your drama is so sensitive and if
there's a little tear this might be getting too scientific,
but if there's a little tear in your pet's ear drum,
that is a whole leading into the inside of the
pets you know, ear canal, and then it can affect
their brain. I mean, we have to be really careful
with what we put into the ears.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Yes, So don't use anything that isn't prescription or something
that your veterinarian is specifically recommending from Chewy your pet Smart.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yes, I agree. There's one drop that I see a lot,
which is called zymox.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I feel like bad, like I'm calling out drug companies,
but I mean it's the truth. We see zymox and
people will use that like, oh, I've been trying this,
but it's not really working.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
And that is just a steroid.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
So it's going to help bring down a little inflammation
and help with itchiness, but it will not work with
an ear infection.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
It's not going to treat the bacteria. Or the yeast.
It's just gonna help with some of the redness, but
you need antibacterials or anti fungals.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You're not ever treating the underlying issue until you get that.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
So we're just like the bear of bad news on
this episode.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yeah, and unfortuate a lot of clients. They always ask
if we can put them on an oral antibiotic or
medication for the ear infections, and it's the topicals. Eardrops
are like really the only things that are reaching enough
of a concentration to treat.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Those penetrating that that's thick ear wall. Yeah, that's very true.
It's different than in humans. Humans can take oral antibiotics
for ear infections, but in our pets they cannot. Okay, last,
but not least. I would not, and I'm pretty sure
I've already said this, I'm gonna say it again because
we're doing our allergy talk. I would not continuously switch
the proteins in my pets food. I hear so many
(04:36):
owners say, oh, my pet gets bored, so now I
have them on chicken. Now I have them on salmon
and beef and rabbit, an alligator and all the things.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
And if your pet is doing great on the protein
they're on.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Stick with it, yes, agreed, if for some reason, I mean,
this is just setting them up to develop a food allergy,
correct and ANGI issues too if you just keep switching
it up. So stick with what they like, stick with
what you know. And if they do develop a food
allergy in the future, it will make it much harder
(05:07):
for us to try and figure out a protein that
works for them since they've been exposed to so much.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Exactly, if it ain't broke, don't try and fix it. Definitely,
And that is the end of our pawn order and
the end of our episode.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Thank you so much for coming back.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I'm sure we'll be having you in season three. We've
got a lot more to cover.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And as always to the listeners, if you have any questions,
please leave them on our voicemail app. You can get
that in the bio of my Instagram. You can DM
me your questions. It's at doctor Josievett on Instagram. And
please rate, review and subscribe. Every single star accounts, every
review counts. We really appreciate it and we'll see you
(05:50):
next week.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
I have two pianos, number of keyboards, but I have
one in the studio and one in the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I'm just trying to feel inspiration here. And let's say, yeah,
you're inspired. You maybe in your sleep you think of
something or you keep maybe you'll sit down and just
start to kind of clink it out.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
Do you record while you're while you're clinking.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
I'll tell you what the most inspiring is. Yeah, I've
got a bunch of voice memos. I mean, you know,
And what the most inspiring thing for me is is
what I was. I was watching a basketball game the
other night and then this ad for Gallatin Ford came
on and the lady said, we've re done our dealership.
We've now We've now got the power of purpose. And
(06:37):
I thought, Okay, that's it. That's the phrase, the power
of purpose. And what I mean is the best way
to write a song is when you need to write
a song. So if you've got a comedy thing and
you've got a spot and you need a song for it,
you'll get it.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
You'll get it done. And it's the same thing with me.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
When there's a need for a song, that's the best
way to get it.
Speaker 7 (06:56):
Give me an example of a song that happened.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
With well, I mean, anything like okay, just just last
you know, a couple of weeks recording some music with
Casey Musgraves is like, you know, she needed something in
a certain mood and a certain kind of genre and
a certain kind of feeling. Yeah, a certain thing. There's
a need that arises. So I've got the power of
purpose behind me. I'm gonna sit down and work within
(07:19):
these parameters to try to make something.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
And that's the way to get it done.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
That's why those Broadway writers were able to to get
so many things done, you know, is they got the purpose.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
Without necessity.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
For a song, I'm lost, I'll just I'll just goof
off all day if I no one needs anything.
Speaker 9 (07:38):
How hard is it?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And maybe hard's not the word, but what's the difference
in writing We'll call them adult songs and kids songs.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
No difference.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
They got to be they got to be good, and
they got to be simple for everybody.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
When you're writing kids songs, I full just the little
disclosure here.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
I did a kid's record that the Cracker Broil bought.
It's pretty good.
Speaker 10 (08:03):
Yeah, pretty good.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
I mean yeah, it's only like eleven albums. Was awesome.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
That's like, that's so cool that you did that, and.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
So I started to struggle.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
After I had written a couple I wrote like a
rap at first by accident, right, it was like about
the planets, and I'm like, this would be cool.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
But then I started like second guessing.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
How simple it should or shouldn't be based on the kid,
based on the age.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Did it with a kid's book too?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
And I got in my head going, I don't know
a four year nine year like, I didn't really know.
I was lost in that space where huh. I have
friends that have that are writers and they know exactly
who they're writing to. I just felt like in that
kid world there was such a distinct difference in a
four and a eight year old.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Maybe, but I always felt like I was underestimated, Like
you know, like I never wanted to have like a
little kiddie plate with like little dividers for all the
food and a little sippy cup or anything like that.
I want to have the china and the I just
a kid that didn't want to be demeaned in that way.
You know, I was a pretty I considered myself to
be a thinking, feeling, sensitive person and I didn't want
(09:10):
to be treated like a baby. So when I make
things for children. I make things for myself as a child,
which I still feel like I am in my heart.
And they're they're like Henry Mancini, They're sophisticated.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
In a certain way.
Speaker 11 (09:28):
They are.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
You know, I realize I price myself out of stuff,
but I don't. I don't like stuff that's pandering or
kind of demeaning to kids.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Really say more by that, you realize you price yourself
out of stuff. What do you mean?
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Well, I just mean sometimes I think the things I
did well, we did get nominated for a Grammy for
the first the first kids thing that I did. But
I think, you know, some of the things you listen
to that are there in that space that are supposed
to be for kids, they're.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Kind of stupid and and I don't I'm not into that.
Speaker 10 (09:56):
See.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
I kind of felt the challenge because I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I think one of the great things about making that
kids album was we didnt we were doing I think
there's a beauty to that. Sure, Sure, when you're naive, Yeah,
that's the way to do it, right, Yeah, I don't
know the rules, that's the way to do it.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I think once we kind of got involved and started
we'd written six or seven songs and we started a
people to be a little bit interested.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Then we started doing the opposite.
Speaker 8 (10:20):
Interesting, Yeah, we're like.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Then trying to guess and speculate and why and let's
get dumber. And that was the wrong thing for us
to do, right, We did exactly what you just said,
and I think we learned a lot from it.
Speaker 9 (10:35):
But that's what we did.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
We were like, we need to make this dumber.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
Well, when you talk about sports and music being parallels,
one thing that stands out to me is the psychological
hurdles that athletes have to get over in order to
get out and perform. And it's the same thing that
creative people have to You have to kind of get
through the second guessing thing. If you're a kicker, you know,
you got to just do what you do, you know,
and you can't get in your head.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Cats up thing, little food for yourself life.
Speaker 12 (11:28):
Oh it's pretty, but hey, it's pretty beautiful thing beautiful
that a little more fly exciting said he can't cut
You're kicking with full thing with Amy Brown.
Speaker 13 (11:42):
Change.
Speaker 14 (11:43):
That is where growth happens. And if you're a people pleaser,
you for sure need to listen to this now. The
inspo for this whole topic came from a recent Three
Chords Therapy newsletter. No therapy Cat who co hosts The
Fifth Thing with Me on Tuesdays. She has her own
practic this here in Nashville. It's called Three Chords Therapy.
She sees clients and then she has other therapists that
(12:06):
work alongside her. They're all awesome and they take turns
writing the newsletter that goes out. And this most recent
one was written by Julie and I absolutely loved it.
She titled the newsletter Feeling Connected, and it's all about
letting go of people, pleasing, allowing ourselves to change, and
then just embracing a new mindset for this year. I'm
(12:30):
going to read it for you verbatim, because well, it's
too good not to share. I'll do that in just
a second. And then after I read it, I'm going
to share with you four things that will help validate
you anytime you need to change your mind or just
change in general. Okay, here's the newsletter again. It is
titled Feeling Connected, written by Julie Langner from Three Chords Therapy.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Here's what she wrote.
Speaker 14 (12:58):
Maren Morris ushered me out of twenty four with a
song I began the year overplaying get the Hell out
of Here. I'm not surprised. I always love a song
I can pretend to live in. As a chronic people pleaser,
I basked in Maren's bold and unapologetic voice on this song.
I found myself clinging to her self assurance as she
(13:19):
sang one line in particular, my only resolution is I'm
allowed to change my mind. I like to pretend I'm
not a resolution gal because the psychology says it's not
the way we humans create change. However, if I let
myself have one for twenty twenty five, it is this
I'm allowed to change my mind.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
The alternate title.
Speaker 14 (13:42):
For this post was my New Year's resolution is to
be more of a disappointment, but I feared that might
unsettle some people. At the time of writing this, it
is still twenty twenty four, so I have eleven more
days to hold tight to my people pleasing protective strategies.
That is often what people pleasing is, and attachment coded
(14:03):
response that we learn in childhood as a way to
protect and maintain our most important relationships. People pleasers learn
through observation and experience that conflict threatens connection. And if
I'm a young child dependent on my caregivers for survival,
my smart, little nervous system is going to learn that
(14:23):
in order to survive, I need to keep the peace
and prioritize others' needs. As an adult, I get the
chance to correct this response, Hello therapy, But nervous system
habits die hard. So I'm still learning that asserting myself
does not always mean disconnection. What does this have to
(14:44):
do with changing my mind?
Speaker 15 (14:46):
People?
Speaker 14 (14:46):
Pleasing on a very micro level for me looks like
holding myself to rigid expectations that avoid inconveniencing others. When
I work with clients around changing longstanding protective strategies, I
always like to work with the lowest hanging fruit. What's
the least threatening disruption we can pull off?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
To start?
Speaker 14 (15:08):
For me, it's gonna look like sending a lot of
texts like this in twenty twenty five. So actually I
changed my mind. Can we meet an East instead? I'm
really craving Mitchell's DELI. Hey, I took a closer look
at my schedule and I can no longer make Thursday work.
So meeting via zoom was working great for me, and
(15:29):
now I'd actually prefer to come in person. Can we
arrange that? So whenever we're changing a protective strategy, it
is common to feel an increase in anxiety, so we
want to pair it with some extra self care. After
I send a text like this, I'll probably throw my
phone on the couch and turn on Maren Morris. If
(15:50):
you're a chronic people pleaser, why don't you join me
in changing your mind this year?
Speaker 13 (15:55):
Julia?
Speaker 14 (15:57):
All right, So that's the newsletter, and that it's challenging
us to not hold tightly to any protective strategies we
have picked up along the way, whether as a young child,
as a teenager, as a young adult, different life circumstances,
we pick up all kinds of strategies, which might mean
(16:20):
we end up being more of a disappointment this year
if we let go of some of those strategies. But
we can do all of this in a healthy way.
And after I read Julia's newsletter, I thought, Okay, I
want to sit with this for a little bit and
tied into four things by coming up with four things
(16:41):
that make changing your mind or changing in general awesome.
And the first thing that came to mind for me,
especially since I've experienced a lot of change the last
few years, is changes. How we grow, whether it's learning
new skills or stepping out of a comfort zone or
(17:03):
letting go of old habits. Growth does not happen without change.
And on last Thursday's four Things episode, we talked about
shedding things that no longer serve us.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
That's how we evolve.
Speaker 14 (17:16):
It's all about shedding what no longer fits, and we
can try to make it fit, and we can squeeze
our way into the pants or whatever you want to
use to visualize something no longer fitting and how uncomfortable
that is. But sometimes we will just force it and
sit in the comfort because that uncomfort, we think is
(17:38):
more comfortable than the actual uncomfort of changing. You know
what I mean, You just like sort of like pick
your poison. But if we pick the one that is
going to help us fall in alignment with ourselves, help
us lean into our more authentic selves, Yeah, it may
be uncomfortable for a bit, but it's going to feel
better in the long run.
Speaker 11 (18:00):
Do it live?
Speaker 16 (18:02):
Oh? The one?
Speaker 11 (18:03):
Two?
Speaker 10 (18:03):
Three sore losers?
Speaker 9 (18:07):
What up? Everybody? I am lunchbox. I know the most
about sports, so I'll give you the sports facts, my
sports opinions, because I'm pretty much a sports genius, y'all.
It's Sison.
Speaker 11 (18:17):
I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.
Speaker 17 (18:18):
I live on the north side of Nashville with Bayser,
my wife. We do have a farm. It's beautiful, a
lot of acreage, no animals, a lot of crops. Hopefully
soon corn pumpkins, rye. I believe maybe a little fescue
to be determined.
Speaker 11 (18:35):
Over to you, coach.
Speaker 9 (18:37):
And here's a clip from this week's episode of The
Sore Losers. So what I did is practicing passing. I
had everybody stand in a circle and I'd pass them
the ball and I'd say, what do you want on
your pizza? And they would say what they wanted on
their pizza and they throw it back to me. They
had interest in that game for about one minute, and
(18:59):
after the fourth kid, they didn't care what we had
on our pizza. They didn't care about that. They were
I'm like, what, wait, what did you say you wanted
your pizza? And they'd be like, I forgot, I don't know,
trying to make a fun game out of learning how
to pass it. And then I was like you know what.
We got ten minutes left. Let's scrimmage. And oh my gosh,
(19:21):
I said, okay, you're only allowed to guard this person.
You're only allowed to guard this person because in the
game you are only allowed to guard your one person. Well,
i'll tell you what. You hand the ball to the
first person. He starts dribbling, and everybody swarms to that person.
And I'm like, no, guys, you can't do that. And everybody,
(19:42):
even if you're on the team the guy, one guy
was guarding his own man like I might. No, he's
on your team. He's on your team, trying to steal
it from him. And what do kids do when people
get around him? They grab the ball and they run
and they run and they run. There was no dribbling,
there was no attempt at dribbling, there was no passing.
Speaker 11 (20:06):
That society man hell in a handbasket.
Speaker 9 (20:08):
Wow, it looked like people at Costco trying to get
those new Pokemon cards.
Speaker 17 (20:12):
So after forty years, our society hasn't evolved at all.
Speaker 11 (20:15):
This is sad.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
It was a little awkward man and kids were getting mad.
He's grabbing me, he's palling me, she's grabbing me, she's
palling me and I don't grab another man. I didn't
know how to. I didn't know how to get him
to spread out, Like I was like, whoa stop, stop, stop,
everybody spread out, spread out? Now, pass it over there,
pass it over there? Pat No, no, okay, no you
(20:38):
got a dribble?
Speaker 16 (20:39):
No?
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Oh man man uh yeah. And then half of them
were upset because they like I didn't get a because
I had red pennies for the you know, so you
could tell who's on whose team. And the kids that
didn't have a penny were like, I want one. I
want a jersey. Why don't I get a jersey? I? No, no,
they're not real jerseys. Why am I not on the
Why why don't I get a team jersey? I'm like, no, no, no,
(20:59):
we're not that's not it's not a jersey.
Speaker 17 (21:02):
Yeah, this ain't basketball. This is parenting. Your parents about
to have a ball. You're the one watching him free daycare.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
And then we had to have a team circle, and
we had to come up with a team name.
Speaker 11 (21:12):
Oh, don't go criss cross apple saus.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
Some people were kneeling, some were sitting on their basketballs.
Some were sitting crisscross Apple sauce.
Speaker 11 (21:20):
Kid's take a knee. You've all seen it on the NFL.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
I was like, balls down, balls, quit drip, Please stop
dripping the ball guy, I said, no ball, how about
we put the balls over here to the side so
he won't be distracted.
Speaker 11 (21:31):
Okay, Bob Knight.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
Trying to come up with a team name.
Speaker 11 (21:36):
Is he still with us?
Speaker 9 (21:38):
I don't know if Bob Knight's around, he may.
Speaker 11 (21:41):
Have think he just recently did.
Speaker 9 (21:42):
I think you're right. I think about in twenty twenty,
but I don't know. But anyway, then you have We
had eight kids at practice.
Speaker 17 (21:52):
Bob Knight was a Hall of Fame college basketball coach.
Speaker 9 (21:56):
That means past. He died win a year ago, twenty
twenty three. Yep, No, twenty twenty.
Speaker 11 (22:05):
Four, twenty twenty three, two years ago, a year and
a month ago.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
So we have eight kids there and we have five
different suggestions for team names. I'm like, okay. Then we
got it down to two, Team USA and Team Nashville.
Speaker 11 (22:23):
I liked this strong patriotic vibe.
Speaker 9 (22:26):
And I go to this one kid. He's the deciding vote.
Speaker 11 (22:29):
That's the proudest I've ever been.
Speaker 9 (22:31):
And I said, train on your art. Hey, man, what
do you want to vote for? I don't care.
Speaker 11 (22:36):
Well, I mean, that's America a nutshell. I might micro cause.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
Them, well, you need to exercise your right to vote.
You got to rock the vote, dude. And I'm like, what, like,
between Team USA and Team Nashville, what would you want
to vote for? And he's like, either, what a great kid?
Speaker 11 (22:52):
Is that yours?
Speaker 12 (22:52):
No?
Speaker 9 (22:53):
Not mine?
Speaker 11 (22:54):
Ray, wish you most.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
My two kids on the team were very adamant about
Team USA.
Speaker 17 (23:00):
Wow.
Speaker 11 (23:00):
I think inspired by the Olympics and their father. We
always say the Pledge before bredge.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
They are very much into the Pledge of Allegiance and
they love the Star Spangled banner before national games. They
love it before we play in the backyard, they we
have to sing the national anthem before we can play
any sport.
Speaker 17 (23:17):
Baser ever, she's hammered go to national anthem? No crap, Yeah,
I didn't know that about her. Haul hilarious, Like she
just sings it or she karaokes it. She'll just sing
it and I'll be like, I'll be sitting there about
six deep middle of my living room, hand over the heart.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
I'll make a note for the convention, get Bay to
sing national anthem to night on the party bus, but
she's six deep, hey Bay. Before the party bus takes
off the you know tractor, Nashville tractor, Nashville tractor. Before
they pull us around the city, can you lead us
in the national anthem?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Please personally with Lloyd fuels Man.
Speaker 18 (24:17):
Lindsay Tran is with us today. She's a certified energy
healer and coach, also known as the Real Love Alchemist
on social media.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Lindsay, how are you doing.
Speaker 19 (24:28):
I'm really good, super excited to be here. Thank you
for having me.
Speaker 18 (24:31):
And you mentioned that firework feeling and often that people
refer to as butterflies, And I saw when you're posts
on social media talking about this, and I thought it
was so interesting because I've experienced many different kinds of
butterflies in my dating, good, bad, everywhere in between. What's
your thoughts on this, Like, what are butterflies and what's
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the situation with them? Should we be avoiding them, happy
that they're around?
Speaker 10 (24:56):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Oh?
Speaker 19 (24:57):
Yeah, yeah? Butterflies, man, they could be super confusing because,
like you said, you can feel all kinds of different
sensations down there and they can mean a lot of
different things, So you know, My stance on it is
that I would not go by butterflies to tell you anything,
because typically their thought of is just like sensations in
the stomach, and you can have those kinds of sensations
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when you're excited, when you're turned on well, but also
when you're feeling unsafe, when you're feeling anxious. So like,
if that's that's the deal with butterflies, then I just
tell my clients, like, don't go by them, Like it's
nice to notice when they're there, and you can you
can say, oh, I feel butterflies, Maybe I want to
investigate that a little bit more, like what is that
(25:40):
actually telling me what am I feeling here? Sometimes they
can even be present when we feel love, So it's
it's super confusing, and I just say, like, throw the
butterfly thing away, like it really is not a reliable
indicator for whether someone's right for you or wrong for you,
because it could be present in so many different situations.
A good question, thank you.
Speaker 18 (26:01):
Oh yeah, And it's so hard, right because I have
grown up on Disney movies and I've been taught that
butterflies are what you're looking for, like you should be
swept off your feet Heck, even Princess Diaries taught me
that I should be foot popping when I'm kissing, you
know what I mean. Like, there's so many levels of this,
So I love that you said it has multiple levels
and maybe just like use it as your body's reacting
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to something and nothing more than that.
Speaker 19 (26:26):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Like don't if you're asking for just
straight up advice, don't go by butterflies. Yeah, like can
mean so many different things.
Speaker 9 (26:33):
Yeah, oh that's good.
Speaker 18 (26:34):
Okay, but I'm glad we made sure to squash that
little bug, if you will.
Speaker 9 (26:39):
I also want to talk about I think.
Speaker 18 (26:41):
There's this kind of this perception around people who jump
from relationship to relationship, good and bad. Right, There's some
people who are like, oh, good for them. There's other
people like, holy crap, what are they doing? What is
this situation with people who jump to relationship to relationship
that you've seen? Is this more normal or is it
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something that we shouldn't be doing?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
How do we know we're healing?
Speaker 18 (27:06):
Like this kind of baseline of just jumping from a
relationship to relationship.
Speaker 19 (27:11):
Yeah, I like to talk about that because I was
that person in my past, Like I pretty much jumped
from a ten year marriage into another relationship, and yeah,
it really was just a matter of a couple months,
so I could totally relate to being in that place.
And you know, I would say if I put myself
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in my head at that time. There were a number
of different reasons why I was doing that, and a
lot of them are unconscious. That's why I'm a big
on subconscious work. But some of the reasons were I
didn't want to be alone because I had been in
this relationship for so long and the thought of starting
over again completely and being single for a while just
(27:52):
completely filled me with dread. I just felt like, oh,
it's so daunting. I don't want to do it now.
This was not completely conscious, but that was going on
in the back of my mind. And the other reason
was I had told myself, which was not actually true,
but I had told myself that I had done a
lot of the grieving while in the relationship because it
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was a long time coming. Like I didn't just pop
out of there. I had done a lot of work
to get to that point, and I thought I was
over it at that point, which was not completely not true,
but that's what I was thinking at the time, and Also,
I was trying to avoid the deep pain, the deep
grieving that I really actually needed to do before getting
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into a relationship. So I thought, well, I'll just pop
in here and like I'll just feel better and that'll
be it. I'll just be good. So I think a
lot of those reasons are why people jump from relationship
to relationship. Now I can't speak for everyone here, but
that's usually what I see, like some variation of those
or even all of them going on at once. And
I would say, like, no judgment if you want to
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do that, cool, but I would say if you're if
you're looking to break this psych of these painful relationships,
you probably do want to pause because it's very different
actually being single after a relationship and taking that time
to figure out why am I now? How did I
get to this point and what do I actually want
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moving forward? Because I from my experience, you can't get
that kind of perspective while you're in the relationship with somebody,
even if you think you've done all the processing, like
you've done all the work, it's different when you're single.
It's different when you're out of that relationship. So I mean, unfortunately,
I do see it a lot. But again, if you're
trying to break the cycle of painful relationships, I would
(29:39):
not recommend relationship hopping.
Speaker 10 (29:52):
Hey it's Mike d and this week all movie Mike's
Movie Podcast. My wife and co host Kelsey joined me.
Every single month we do our big recap episode where
we're talking about all the movies we've seen in theaters
and streaming at home. So it's a big movie dump
of movies we think you should check out, whether they're
still in theaters or they're coming to streaming soon, and
movies we think you should avoid altogether because they're not
(30:13):
worth your time, not worth your money. So I'm gonna
play you our best picks right now, but be sure
to listen to the full episode to hear our worst.
We also give our TV recommendations to on this episode.
So right now, here's just a little bit of Movie
Mike's Movie Podcast. I'm gonna go Baby Girl, Really, Baby Girl?
Speaker 13 (30:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (30:30):
Why did you like that movie so much?
Speaker 13 (30:32):
Well, while we saw it at the Bellcourt, which is
I feel like seeing any movie there makes it infinitely
better because it's just got this like old time theater
kind of vibe, like they have curtains on the stage
and people respect the like no cell phones, no talking.
Speaker 10 (30:48):
That is the only theater we go to which we
only go to really to that one into Regal, but
nobody pulls out their cell phone ever. You never see
it alone. You don't even see really people leave I
guess to go to the bathroom, but.
Speaker 13 (31:02):
Which I must say, they do dollar popcorn and drink refills,
and I take advantage of that every time.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
Which when we go to that theater it is a small,
independent theater. We always try to buy snacks there. I
know sometimes I take my own snacks when we go
to Regal, but it's like a big chain. We also
have the Yeah, still get drinks and popcorn. I don't
really have anything that can eat there. But at Bellcourt
we always make it a point to support them because
that's how they make a lot their money.
Speaker 13 (31:28):
We are remembers now with the bell Court.
Speaker 10 (31:30):
So if you go to a local theater, always buy snacks.
Was it also getting to see her afterwards that maybe
heighten it a little bit?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (31:38):
Absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (31:39):
I can feel kind of the presence of her being
there afterwards and hearing her talk about it made me
enjoy it more. It's kind of like whenever they have
premieres at like film festivals and the person is actually there.
I think that's why sometimes those movies get really big
standing ovations that are like eleven minutes long, because there's
something about them being there. But I still think even
(31:59):
with out her presence, I enjoyed that movie way more
than I was expecting.
Speaker 13 (32:03):
To, as did I, which is why it's my best
of the month.
Speaker 10 (32:06):
My best of the month for December. We saw a lot,
and I'll run through it more once we're all done
with both of our picks. I'm going to go with
The Complete Unknown.
Speaker 13 (32:15):
Really good.
Speaker 10 (32:16):
It was, I think because of my low expectations for
music biopicks right now that coming off of Elvis, which
was totally glossy and flashy and didn't really feel like
a traditional biopic it's very fantastical. This one was a
little bit more set in reality, and it also didn't
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focus on his entire career, which I enjoyed. It was
pretty much how he got discovered, how his first album
didn't really work out well, and then all leading up
to whenever he went electric, so becomes famous and then
totally wants to change what he's doing. So I think
it was the fact that it didn't try to cover
his entire life, which sometimes just feels like way too
(32:58):
much to fit into a two and hours half hour movie.
I think that is why I ended up enjoying it more.
It was focused more on early leading up to one point,
so unlike most traditional biopics that are just their entire
life all trying to be into one movie, I feel
like it told a story better because it was like,
here's this guy just trying to get his music heard
by people, ends up changing a genre, bringing new life
(33:23):
into it, and then has this dilemma when he kind
of wants to step away from that a little bit.
And also, Timothy shallow May I thought did a really
good job as Bob Dylan, even though there are some
moments where you can tell, oh, that's Timothy shallow May
being Timothy shallow May.
Speaker 13 (33:35):
Yeah, there were a few where like just his personality
came through, and I feel like that's hard to do because.
Speaker 10 (33:40):
I felt that too in Dune too, where there is
some intense moments, but then it's almost like the way
he speaks, where everybody in Dune speaks so like almost
theatrical and like old school, and they have like this
different dialect. Sometimes he just sounds like a California I
don't think he's from California, but it sounds like that
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Hollywood kid.
Speaker 13 (34:01):
I laugh because I don't know if you've seen any
of the tweets about like when he and Kylie Jenner
first started dating, and but people were like, why does
everyone just assume that Timothy Chalomay is just like astute
Shakespearean lover of literature, Like just because he's been in
like Little Women and other like intense serious movies. They're like,
(34:22):
he might not be as like Shakespearean intense as people
think he is.
Speaker 10 (34:28):
Yeah, I mean he is a theater kid, so he
has that aspect to him. But I think, like you
were saying, people were so surprised when he went on
college game day and knew a lot about football. It's
like he's like a mid twenties white.
Speaker 13 (34:40):
Dude on SML Pete Davidson, And.
Speaker 10 (34:44):
When you see him outside of his roles, he seems
like a normal dude. Like all the press he did
for this movie seemed like a normal dude.
Speaker 13 (34:51):
I mean, maybe his name too, just Timothy Chalomy.
Speaker 10 (34:53):
It's true, it's a weird way to spell Timothy it
already looks regal.
Speaker 13 (34:58):
Timothy Chela may just rolls off the tongue.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
It sounds like a very regal name. Like when he's fifty,
it's gonna sound like, oh yeah, it's Timothy Shallomy in
the same way we look at Denzel Washington now kind
of has that feel. What do you think about Edin
Norton looking very much older?
Speaker 13 (35:13):
I legit had to IMDb during the movie because I
was like, who is that? He looks so familliar And
I was like, excuse me, former mister incredible Hulk.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
Yeah, they made him look really old.
Speaker 8 (35:21):
He's only fifty five.
Speaker 13 (35:22):
They made him look very what's the word I was
about to say, daddy, But that's not what I meant.
Speaker 10 (35:28):
I meant like dad, like Dad, core, Dad, Core, thank you,
that's even more grandpa core. He looked very old, but
I thought he was. He was good in that. I
could have seen somebody else in that role. Yeah, But
I think overall the movie taught me about Bob Dylan.
Speaker 13 (35:48):
When I knew nothing about Bob Dylan, I didn't.
Speaker 10 (35:50):
Really know anything about his story as far as how
he got to start his whole relationship with the other
singer John Biaz in this movie. I didn't really know
who you want us to be honest, there are about
four Bob Dylan songs that I like, and after watching
this movie, I did go back and listen to him.
I enjoy them, but it wasn't the same way whenever
(36:11):
I went to go see Bohemian Rhapsody that I got
very into Queen's music. I don't think I'll have that
same trajectory after watching this movie.
Speaker 13 (36:21):
I think I liked the Wonka soundtrack more.
Speaker 10 (36:23):
Yeah, we did listen to that more. We listened to
Bob Dylan on the way home from watching this movie.
You cute it up and we haven't really dipped back
into it since, so thinks. I think that's about where
I am.
Speaker 13 (36:34):
Yeah, I'm think he's great. It's just not my musical taste.
Like I respect him as an artist and think he's
very talented, just isn't what I want to listen to.
Speaker 10 (36:44):
I also enjoyed that it did show him being a dick.
Speaker 13 (36:47):
It did. Yeah, it wasn't glossy like Bob Dylan's the best.
It was kind of like, oh, we kind of screwed
some people over and like left behind the people who
helped him get a start.
Speaker 10 (36:57):
And most times when biopics come out where the person
is still alive, that is the reason I don't like it,
because not that he he still gave some approval on
this movie. He wasn't a producer or anything on it,
but obviously they wanted to put it out with his blessing,
and he watched it before and approved of it. He
thought Timothy Shalama did a good job portraying him, But
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it was the fact that they still left in some
of the things that didn't paint him out to be
a saint, which they always try to paint whoever they're
making a bio pick out to be the perfect person.
Speaker 13 (37:27):
Like they didn't realize her.
Speaker 10 (37:29):
Because if you look at what Elvis is versus what
the movie Priscilla is, two totally different movies sides of things,
they don't show anything bad about Elvis, So I enjoyed
that aspect of it. I thought also the music on
its own was really good in the movie, with Timothy
Shallome singing, and for a movie that had a lot
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of music throughout, not even Bob Dylan music, but other music,
it did a really good job at holding my attention
because sometimes when you put music in a movie that
people don't joy. It's like, oh man, you're gonna bore people. Yeah,
I wasn't bored, but yeah, that's why my best of
the month goes to a complete unknown. I stand by
my four point five out of five.
Speaker 16 (38:09):
At cary Lone.
Speaker 9 (38:20):
She's a queen and talking and it was.
Speaker 8 (38:24):
She's getting really.
Speaker 9 (38:25):
Not afraid to faces episode, so just let it flow.
Speaker 16 (38:29):
No one can do we crowd cary Lone. It's sounding
care Lone.
Speaker 20 (38:37):
The way that my whole thing, what's happened is really
crazy because I had auditioned for this like rock school,
and I'm like sixteen at this time, and I didn't.
Speaker 15 (38:47):
Get in, but somebody school like to go to school.
It was like a like a.
Speaker 20 (38:51):
Program where they would like there was teachers and they
would teach you something.
Speaker 15 (38:55):
And you're unconventional.
Speaker 20 (38:56):
Yeah, I mean I but I think I was just
uh trying to take advantage of every opportunity. I'm sure
my mom had found it online like I did a
million seeing competitions and talent shows and commercials and whatever
it was that I could do. My mom was willing
to drive me to audition, which is so sweet. The
best she literally is the best an sister. Yes, I
(39:17):
saw you're a poster and we are like a little
trio totally.
Speaker 15 (39:20):
Yeah, it was. It was just three of.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Us, and your dad always absent.
Speaker 20 (39:25):
He he definitely was absent even when he was there,
and if he was there, he wasn't Like he was
not a very good energy. So I think as soon
as I got a little older, I was kind of
like if he was home, like I would just like keep.
Speaker 15 (39:38):
Driving my friend's house kind of thing.
Speaker 20 (39:40):
Yeah, very angry, kind of volatile person, just not like
a good guy, I guess if that makes sense.
Speaker 15 (39:46):
And healed un healed lots to lots to heal for sure, So.
Speaker 21 (39:51):
You've done a lot of healing, even like your songs
are so like advanced consciously, like I feel like you're
not even you're writing like breakup songs and you're writing
like real stuff, but you're also like very conscious and
aware of like your mental wellbeing and like the process
of healing. Do you think that's from your childhood and
like witnessing your dad being unhealed kind of that's like.
Speaker 15 (40:09):
I've never actually like thought that before.
Speaker 20 (40:11):
I think for me, like my I grew up a
little it was a little unconventional and it was hard.
I felt a lot of envy and like discomfort, feeling
like my home life like didn't look like other peoples.
Speaker 21 (40:23):
In one house down from the girl next door. Yeah,
you just felt like you were like almost there but
not quite.
Speaker 20 (40:29):
And I was really angry and I didn't feel like
anyone was listening to me, and so I got into
a lot of trouble, Like I was really just searching
for things and ended up in some situations and had
some trauma and it was just like kind of a
bit of a wreck, and I think that it all
kind of caught up to me and I started to
experience a lot of like anxiety and panic and that
(40:49):
it got so bad that I had to seek help,
like I needed to talk to somebody and therapist totally,
and that like intervention really my life. But it also
like unlocked this like level of consciousness that I think
I didn't know was there. And that's why I always
think there's so many benefits to go into therapy or
going on your mental health journey. But like it just
(41:11):
deepened and widened, and like I felt like I was
kind of asleep and it woke me up as well
as like my spirituality as while I kind of came
to Christianity later in life, and it was the same
type of thing where I was like.
Speaker 21 (41:21):
That's awesome because it's real, totally absolutely it wasn't. You
didn't just grow up with it and inherit someone's beliefs.
Speaker 15 (41:27):
You actually have your own beliefs. Nobody was ever like
you should go to church whatever. It was truly at
the ground.
Speaker 20 (41:35):
Zero, bottom low place where someone had invited me to
church so much and I had turned them down so much.
And then one day I was like, you know what,
like ef it? What how much worse can it get?
Kind of thing, I'll try anything. And then it was
like this like wave of you know, all the magical
things that come with opening your eye.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
What was the breaking moment for you?
Speaker 20 (41:55):
I remember just being really numb, like I didn't I
was just super appathy about everything. I didn't care about everything.
So similar I mean, really depression really, that's that's the
main kind of indicator. And just didn't want to be home.
I didn't want to be in my body. I kind
of wanted to be somewhere else. And so a lot
of dissociating, a lot of drinking, a lot of just
(42:17):
like however I can just kind of run for my.
Speaker 21 (42:19):
Life and oh my gosh, and your song make up
Holy cow, thank you, thank you. Talk about like putting
into words like what is the lines like I don't
know if I hate my body because my mom always did,
or if I have an anger because.
Speaker 20 (42:32):
Like, yeah, oh my god, I was like, girl you
are that's like my favorite song.
Speaker 15 (42:37):
Well, I mean that song. I don't love performing it.
Speaker 20 (42:40):
Because it's like triggering a little bit and you just
have to take this huge deep breath and then sing
this like incredibly personal song to this crowd of people
who don't know, and it's like it I don't know,
it's it's a hard one. But writing it, like I've
never felt more like it was coming from somewhere else
and I was just like writing it down like it
was really kind of spooky the way that it happened.
(43:01):
It came so easily, and just the writing of it
and that the thinking about it because I knew I
wanted to write this kind of song was so healing
in a real way for me. And I think it's
just so important because whatever your trauma, these like cycles
are in your family, whether they're you know, body image
issues or anger or alcoholism or whatever it is. You
(43:22):
just kind of feel like you're you're really predisposed to it,
and it's almost like, oh, I have to have this,
like I have to hold it, and it's like you don't.
Speaker 15 (43:29):
You can be whoever you want. Your cycle can end
with you.
Speaker 20 (43:31):
And we hear that, but that was this real moment
where it was like I have complete control.
Speaker 15 (43:35):
I felt it.
Speaker 21 (43:36):
I felt it and just hearing people say that, because
a lot of that's just like words until you actually
like internalize it and feel it for yourself absolutely.
Speaker 20 (43:44):
And like with the anger too, I mean like I was.
It was my husband and my boyfriend at the time.
He was like, it's like you kind of like you're
not even home when you get really angry, and that I.
Speaker 15 (43:55):
Just remember sobbing.
Speaker 20 (43:56):
I was like that was like my dad like he
just wasn't there because he was so mad and it
was heartbreaking to me. And I'm like I can't be
I can't be that and oh my gosh, I'm not
going to be an angry mom like one day, Like.
Speaker 15 (44:07):
I cannot do that.
Speaker 20 (44:09):
And so I was like, how do I like unpack
this and figure out tools and know when I'm like
getting kind of heated, I'm like, I need to step away.
And you would never know that about me, like because
I'm a very chill, happy person, but for some reason,
like I could get into the space where I would
just kind of lose my shit.
Speaker 15 (44:27):
Can you swear?
Speaker 8 (44:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 20 (44:28):
Yeah, and it just it wasn't cute and then.
Speaker 21 (44:31):
And you probably felt terrible afterwards. Oh my god, I
feel like I very much relate to you because I
am so empathetic to the point where it's like debilitating,
and I have had to work so much on it.
And I'm forty one years old now and I finally
am at a place where I can like exist in
the world, I think without Like I use, I really
can't watch the news. I can't hear about kids suffering.
Yeah it's not like I want to put my head
(44:52):
in the sand. But also it's like, I know, I
cannot hear about things that I can't help with at
this point in my life because I will internalize it.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
It will ruin my day.
Speaker 21 (45:01):
It will sink my vibration because I'm like, oh my god,
the world is so full of suffering, Like and other
people traumatic that upset and.
Speaker 15 (45:08):
You're like what are you? What do you mean? How
are you just like okay with that?
Speaker 20 (45:12):
And then people are like, well, you know, I can't
personally do anything right the second, but I totally feel you.
Speaker 21 (45:17):
But I had an anger problem too, Like I would
lose it and it would come over me. And it's
like I knew I wasn't an angry person because I
knew I was so loving and empathetic, but like I
would just like lose my shit and I would feel
terrible afterwards.
Speaker 15 (45:31):
Yeah, it's awful, you know for sure.
Speaker 11 (45:42):
And that was this week's Sunday sampler.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
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Hey guys, back with another Sunday sampler. On the Bobby Cast,
I sat down with Grammy winning songwriter Daniel Tashin. Daniel
talks about working with the Ringo Starr and why his dad,
who actually worked with the Beatles, did not want him
to go into music. That's coming up. I do want
to start though, within the Vets Office with Doctor Josie.
(00:29):
It's all about pet allergies. What do we deal with
this a lot? And what to do if your pet
has allergies. Doctor Josie and her guest doctor Isabella share
how they diagnose different allergies and how they can be
managed by you guys long term. So let's get started.
Here's a clip from this week's in the Vets Office
with Doctor Josie.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
You're listening to In the Vets Office with Doctor Josie Horschak.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
All right, we are back with our pot and order
for the week.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Number one on the list.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I would never ever do the saliva and blood testing
when testing for allergies, and my pets agreed.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
I there are so many like over the counter.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Yes, blood, you can buy them on the internet.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Saliva, the hair, yeah yeah, those tests and they're just
we don't have any evidence that those are accurate, and
then ultimately it just makes it more challenging for us
trying to interpret them.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
When we don't know what's real and what's not. I
totally I think you're wasting your money. If you're going
to put your money towards something, I would not put
it towards that. These are we don't even like the
people that are making them aren't like vetted. So you're
just buying something on the internet. You're getting caught in
an Instagram scam. Definitely, And I'm the queen of that people. Yes,
but this is one I would not fall for.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Yeah, No, never, all right.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Number two, I would not put anything in my pet's
ears that is not veterinary recommended.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
This one's very popular. Yes, we have clients coming in
all the time for with dogs with ear infections, and
we ask are you using anything for maintenance ear cleaning?
And they say, oh, yeah, yeah, I've been putting in
my vinegar.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And when I hear vinegar going in the ear, I
think I die a little inside.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Yeah, people have some weird concoctions. I'm sure it's on TikTok.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
But on it most slow is another thing. Coconut oil.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Yes, and the ear is already hot, hot, dark moist,
so you're just adding more moisture in there. It can
be tearing up the ear canal.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yes, and that your drama is so sensitive and if
there's a little tear this might be getting too scientific,
but if there's a little tear in your pet's ear drum,
that is a whole leading into the inside of the
pets you know, ear canal, and then it can affect
their brain. I mean, we have to be really careful
with what we put into the ears.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Yes, So don't use anything that isn't prescription or something
that your veterinarian is specifically recommending from Chewy your pet Smart.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Yes, I agree. There's one drop that I see a lot,
which is called zymox.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I feel like bad, like I'm calling out drug companies,
but I mean it's the truth. We see zymox and
people will use that like, oh, I've been trying this,
but it's not really working.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
And that is just a steroid.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
So it's going to help bring down a little inflammation
and help with itchiness, but it will not work with
an ear infection.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
It's not going to treat the bacteria. Or the yeast.
It's just gonna help with some of the redness, but
you need antibacterials or anti fungals.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
You're not ever treating the underlying issue until you get that.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
So we're just like the bear of bad news on
this episode.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Yeah, and unfortuate a lot of clients. They always ask
if we can put them on an oral antibiotic or
medication for the ear infections, and it's the topicals. Eardrops
are like really the only things that are reaching enough
of a concentration to treat.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Those penetrating that that's thick ear wall. Yeah, that's very true.
It's different than in humans. Humans can take oral antibiotics
for ear infections, but in our pets they cannot. Okay, last,
but not least. I would not, and I'm pretty sure
I've already said this, I'm gonna say it again because
we're doing our allergy talk. I would not continuously switch
the proteins in my pets food. I hear so many
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owners say, oh, my pet gets bored, so now I
have them on chicken. Now I have them on salmon
and beef and rabbit, an alligator and all the things.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
And if your pet is doing great on the protein
they're on.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Stick with it, yes, agreed, if for some reason, I mean,
this is just setting them up to develop a food allergy,
correct and ANGI issues too if you just keep switching
it up. So stick with what they like, stick with
what you know. And if they do develop a food
allergy in the future, it will make it much harder
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for us to try and figure out a protein that
works for them since they've been exposed to so much.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Exactly, if it ain't broke, don't try and fix it. Definitely,
And that is the end of our pawn order and
the end of our episode.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Thank you so much for coming back.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
I'm sure we'll be having you in season three. We've
got a lot more to cover.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And as always to the listeners, if you have any questions,
please leave them on our voicemail app. You can get
that in the bio of my Instagram. You can DM
me your questions. It's at doctor Josievett on Instagram. And
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next week.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
I have two pianos, number of keyboards, but I have
one in the studio and one in the kitchen.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I'm just trying to feel inspiration here. And let's say, yeah,
you're inspired. You maybe in your sleep you think of
something or you keep maybe you'll sit down and just
start to kind of clink it out.
Speaker 7 (06:15):
Do you record while you're while you're clinking.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
I'll tell you what the most inspiring is. Yeah, I've
got a bunch of voice memos. I mean, you know,
And what the most inspiring thing for me is is
what I was. I was watching a basketball game the
other night and then this ad for Gallatin Ford came
on and the lady said, we've re done our dealership.
We've now We've now got the power of purpose. And
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I thought, Okay, that's it. That's the phrase, the power
of purpose. And what I mean is the best way
to write a song is when you need to write
a song. So if you've got a comedy thing and
you've got a spot and you need a song for it,
you'll get it.
Speaker 8 (06:50):
You'll get it done. And it's the same thing with me.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
When there's a need for a song, that's the best
way to get it.
Speaker 7 (06:56):
Give me an example of a song that happened.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
With well, I mean, anything like okay, just just last
you know, a couple of weeks recording some music with
Casey Musgraves is like, you know, she needed something in
a certain mood and a certain kind of genre and
a certain kind of feeling. Yeah, a certain thing. There's
a need that arises. So I've got the power of
purpose behind me. I'm gonna sit down and work within
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these parameters to try to make something.
Speaker 8 (07:21):
And that's the way to get it done.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
That's why those Broadway writers were able to to get
so many things done, you know, is they got the purpose.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
Without necessity.
Speaker 6 (07:32):
For a song, I'm lost, I'll just I'll just goof
off all day if I no one needs anything.
Speaker 9 (07:38):
How hard is it?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And maybe hard's not the word, but what's the difference
in writing We'll call them adult songs and kids songs.
Speaker 8 (07:46):
No difference.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
They got to be they got to be good, and
they got to be simple for everybody.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
When you're writing kids songs, I full just the little
disclosure here.
Speaker 7 (08:01):
I did a kid's record that the Cracker Broil bought.
It's pretty good.
Speaker 10 (08:03):
Yeah, pretty good.
Speaker 7 (08:04):
I mean yeah, it's only like eleven albums. Was awesome.
Speaker 8 (08:07):
That's like, that's so cool that you did that, and.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
So I started to struggle.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
After I had written a couple I wrote like a
rap at first by accident, right, it was like about
the planets, and I'm like, this would be cool.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
But then I started like second guessing.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
How simple it should or shouldn't be based on the kid,
based on the age.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Did it with a kid's book too?
Speaker 1 (08:31):
And I got in my head going, I don't know
a four year nine year like, I didn't really know.
I was lost in that space where huh. I have
friends that have that are writers and they know exactly
who they're writing to. I just felt like in that
kid world there was such a distinct difference in a
four and a eight year old.
Speaker 6 (08:49):
Maybe, but I always felt like I was underestimated, Like
you know, like I never wanted to have like a
little kiddie plate with like little dividers for all the
food and a little sippy cup or anything like that.
I want to have the china and the I just
a kid that didn't want to be demeaned in that way.
You know, I was a pretty I considered myself to
be a thinking, feeling, sensitive person and I didn't want
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to be treated like a baby. So when I make
things for children. I make things for myself as a child,
which I still feel like I am in my heart.
And they're they're like Henry Mancini, They're sophisticated.
Speaker 8 (09:27):
In a certain way.
Speaker 11 (09:28):
They are.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
You know, I realize I price myself out of stuff,
but I don't. I don't like stuff that's pandering or
kind of demeaning to kids.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Really say more by that, you realize you price yourself
out of stuff. What do you mean?
Speaker 6 (09:38):
Well, I just mean sometimes I think the things I
did well, we did get nominated for a Grammy for
the first the first kids thing that I did. But
I think, you know, some of the things you listen
to that are there in that space that are supposed
to be for kids, they're.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Kind of stupid and and I don't I'm not into that.
Speaker 10 (09:56):
See.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
I kind of felt the challenge because I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I think one of the great things about making that
kids album was we didnt we were doing I think
there's a beauty to that. Sure, Sure, when you're naive, Yeah,
that's the way to do it, right, Yeah, I don't
know the rules, that's the way to do it.
Speaker 8 (10:10):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I think once we kind of got involved and started
we'd written six or seven songs and we started a
people to be a little bit interested.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
Then we started doing the opposite.
Speaker 8 (10:20):
Interesting, Yeah, we're like.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Then trying to guess and speculate and why and let's
get dumber. And that was the wrong thing for us
to do, right, We did exactly what you just said,
and I think we learned a lot from it.
Speaker 9 (10:35):
But that's what we did.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
We were like, we need to make this dumber.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
Well, when you talk about sports and music being parallels,
one thing that stands out to me is the psychological
hurdles that athletes have to get over in order to
get out and perform. And it's the same thing that
creative people have to You have to kind of get
through the second guessing thing. If you're a kicker, you know,
you got to just do what you do, you know,
and you can't get in your head.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Cats up thing, little food for yourself life.
Speaker 12 (11:28):
Oh it's pretty, but hey, it's pretty beautiful thing beautiful
that a little more fly exciting said he can't cut
You're kicking with full thing with Amy Brown.
Speaker 13 (11:42):
Change.
Speaker 14 (11:43):
That is where growth happens. And if you're a people pleaser,
you for sure need to listen to this now. The
inspo for this whole topic came from a recent Three
Chords Therapy newsletter. No therapy Cat who co hosts The
Fifth Thing with Me on Tuesdays. She has her own
practic this here in Nashville. It's called Three Chords Therapy.
She sees clients and then she has other therapists that
(12:06):
work alongside her. They're all awesome and they take turns
writing the newsletter that goes out. And this most recent
one was written by Julie and I absolutely loved it.
She titled the newsletter Feeling Connected, and it's all about
letting go of people, pleasing, allowing ourselves to change, and
then just embracing a new mindset for this year. I'm
(12:30):
going to read it for you verbatim, because well, it's
too good not to share. I'll do that in just
a second. And then after I read it, I'm going
to share with you four things that will help validate
you anytime you need to change your mind or just
change in general. Okay, here's the newsletter again. It is
titled Feeling Connected, written by Julie Langner from Three Chords Therapy.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Here's what she wrote.
Speaker 14 (12:58):
Maren Morris ushered me out of twenty four with a
song I began the year overplaying get the Hell out
of Here. I'm not surprised. I always love a song
I can pretend to live in. As a chronic people pleaser,
I basked in Maren's bold and unapologetic voice on this song.
I found myself clinging to her self assurance as she
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sang one line in particular, my only resolution is I'm
allowed to change my mind. I like to pretend I'm
not a resolution gal because the psychology says it's not
the way we humans create change. However, if I let
myself have one for twenty twenty five, it is this
I'm allowed to change my mind.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
The alternate title.
Speaker 14 (13:42):
For this post was my New Year's resolution is to
be more of a disappointment, but I feared that might
unsettle some people. At the time of writing this, it
is still twenty twenty four, so I have eleven more
days to hold tight to my people pleasing protective strategies.
That is often what people pleasing is, and attachment coded
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response that we learn in childhood as a way to
protect and maintain our most important relationships. People pleasers learn
through observation and experience that conflict threatens connection. And if
I'm a young child dependent on my caregivers for survival,
my smart, little nervous system is going to learn that
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in order to survive, I need to keep the peace
and prioritize others' needs. As an adult, I get the
chance to correct this response, Hello therapy, But nervous system
habits die hard. So I'm still learning that asserting myself
does not always mean disconnection. What does this have to
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do with changing my mind?
Speaker 15 (14:46):
People?
Speaker 14 (14:46):
Pleasing on a very micro level for me looks like
holding myself to rigid expectations that avoid inconveniencing others. When
I work with clients around changing longstanding protective strategies, I
always like to work with the lowest hanging fruit. What's
the least threatening disruption we can pull off?
Speaker 4 (15:07):
To start?
Speaker 14 (15:08):
For me, it's gonna look like sending a lot of
texts like this in twenty twenty five. So actually I
changed my mind. Can we meet an East instead? I'm
really craving Mitchell's DELI. Hey, I took a closer look
at my schedule and I can no longer make Thursday work.
So meeting via zoom was working great for me, and
(15:29):
now I'd actually prefer to come in person. Can we
arrange that? So whenever we're changing a protective strategy, it
is common to feel an increase in anxiety, so we
want to pair it with some extra self care. After
I send a text like this, I'll probably throw my
phone on the couch and turn on Maren Morris. If
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you're a chronic people pleaser, why don't you join me
in changing your mind this year?
Speaker 13 (15:55):
Julia?
Speaker 14 (15:57):
All right, So that's the newsletter, and that it's challenging
us to not hold tightly to any protective strategies we
have picked up along the way, whether as a young child,
as a teenager, as a young adult, different life circumstances,
we pick up all kinds of strategies, which might mean
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we end up being more of a disappointment this year
if we let go of some of those strategies. But
we can do all of this in a healthy way.
And after I read Julia's newsletter, I thought, Okay, I
want to sit with this for a little bit and
tied into four things by coming up with four things
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that make changing your mind or changing in general awesome.
And the first thing that came to mind for me,
especially since I've experienced a lot of change the last
few years, is changes. How we grow, whether it's learning
new skills or stepping out of a comfort zone or
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letting go of old habits. Growth does not happen without change.
And on last Thursday's four Things episode, we talked about
shedding things that no longer serve us.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
That's how we evolve.
Speaker 14 (17:16):
It's all about shedding what no longer fits, and we
can try to make it fit, and we can squeeze
our way into the pants or whatever you want to
use to visualize something no longer fitting and how uncomfortable
that is. But sometimes we will just force it and
sit in the comfort because that uncomfort, we think is
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more comfortable than the actual uncomfort of changing. You know
what I mean, You just like sort of like pick
your poison. But if we pick the one that is
going to help us fall in alignment with ourselves, help
us lean into our more authentic selves, Yeah, it may
be uncomfortable for a bit, but it's going to feel
better in the long run.
Speaker 11 (18:00):
Do it live?
Speaker 16 (18:02):
Oh? The one?
Speaker 11 (18:03):
Two?
Speaker 10 (18:03):
Three sore losers?
Speaker 9 (18:07):
What up? Everybody? I am lunchbox. I know the most
about sports, so I'll give you the sports facts, my
sports opinions, because I'm pretty much a sports genius, y'all.
It's Sison.
Speaker 11 (18:17):
I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male.
Speaker 17 (18:18):
I live on the north side of Nashville with Bayser,
my wife. We do have a farm. It's beautiful, a
lot of acreage, no animals, a lot of crops. Hopefully
soon corn pumpkins, rye. I believe maybe a little fescue
to be determined.
Speaker 11 (18:35):
Over to you, coach.
Speaker 9 (18:37):
And here's a clip from this week's episode of The
Sore Losers. So what I did is practicing passing. I
had everybody stand in a circle and I'd pass them
the ball and I'd say, what do you want on
your pizza? And they would say what they wanted on
their pizza and they throw it back to me. They
had interest in that game for about one minute, and
(18:59):
after the fourth kid, they didn't care what we had
on our pizza. They didn't care about that. They were
I'm like, what, wait, what did you say you wanted
your pizza? And they'd be like, I forgot, I don't know,
trying to make a fun game out of learning how
to pass it. And then I was like you know what.
We got ten minutes left. Let's scrimmage. And oh my gosh,
(19:21):
I said, okay, you're only allowed to guard this person.
You're only allowed to guard this person because in the
game you are only allowed to guard your one person. Well,
i'll tell you what. You hand the ball to the
first person. He starts dribbling, and everybody swarms to that person.
And I'm like, no, guys, you can't do that. And everybody,
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even if you're on the team the guy, one guy
was guarding his own man like I might. No, he's
on your team. He's on your team, trying to steal
it from him. And what do kids do when people
get around him? They grab the ball and they run
and they run and they run. There was no dribbling,
there was no attempt at dribbling, there was no passing.
Speaker 11 (20:06):
That society man hell in a handbasket.
Speaker 9 (20:08):
Wow, it looked like people at Costco trying to get
those new Pokemon cards.
Speaker 17 (20:12):
So after forty years, our society hasn't evolved at all.
Speaker 11 (20:15):
This is sad.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
It was a little awkward man and kids were getting mad.
He's grabbing me, he's palling me, she's grabbing me, she's
palling me and I don't grab another man. I didn't
know how to. I didn't know how to get him
to spread out, Like I was like, whoa stop, stop, stop,
everybody spread out, spread out? Now, pass it over there,
pass it over there? Pat No, no, okay, no you
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got a dribble?
Speaker 16 (20:39):
No?
Speaker 9 (20:39):
Oh man man uh yeah. And then half of them
were upset because they like I didn't get a because
I had red pennies for the you know, so you
could tell who's on whose team. And the kids that
didn't have a penny were like, I want one. I
want a jersey. Why don't I get a jersey? I? No, no,
they're not real jerseys. Why am I not on the
Why why don't I get a team jersey? I'm like, no, no, no,
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we're not that's not it's not a jersey.
Speaker 17 (21:02):
Yeah, this ain't basketball. This is parenting. Your parents about
to have a ball. You're the one watching him free daycare.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
And then we had to have a team circle, and
we had to come up with a team name.
Speaker 11 (21:12):
Oh, don't go criss cross apple saus.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
Some people were kneeling, some were sitting on their basketballs.
Some were sitting crisscross Apple sauce.
Speaker 11 (21:20):
Kid's take a knee. You've all seen it on the NFL.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
I was like, balls down, balls, quit drip, Please stop
dripping the ball guy, I said, no ball, how about
we put the balls over here to the side so
he won't be distracted.
Speaker 11 (21:31):
Okay, Bob Knight.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
Trying to come up with a team name.
Speaker 11 (21:36):
Is he still with us?
Speaker 9 (21:38):
I don't know if Bob Knight's around, he may.
Speaker 11 (21:41):
Have think he just recently did.
Speaker 9 (21:42):
I think you're right. I think about in twenty twenty,
but I don't know. But anyway, then you have We
had eight kids at practice.
Speaker 17 (21:52):
Bob Knight was a Hall of Fame college basketball coach.
Speaker 9 (21:56):
That means past. He died win a year ago, twenty
twenty three. Yep, No, twenty twenty.
Speaker 11 (22:05):
Four, twenty twenty three, two years ago, a year and
a month ago.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
So we have eight kids there and we have five
different suggestions for team names. I'm like, okay. Then we
got it down to two, Team USA and Team Nashville.
Speaker 11 (22:23):
I liked this strong patriotic vibe.
Speaker 9 (22:26):
And I go to this one kid. He's the deciding vote.
Speaker 11 (22:29):
That's the proudest I've ever been.
Speaker 9 (22:31):
And I said, train on your art. Hey, man, what
do you want to vote for? I don't care.
Speaker 11 (22:36):
Well, I mean, that's America a nutshell. I might micro cause.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
Them, well, you need to exercise your right to vote.
You got to rock the vote, dude. And I'm like, what, like,
between Team USA and Team Nashville, what would you want
to vote for? And he's like, either, what a great kid?
Speaker 11 (22:52):
Is that yours?
Speaker 12 (22:52):
No?
Speaker 9 (22:53):
Not mine?
Speaker 11 (22:54):
Ray, wish you most.
Speaker 9 (22:55):
My two kids on the team were very adamant about
Team USA.
Speaker 17 (23:00):
Wow.
Speaker 11 (23:00):
I think inspired by the Olympics and their father. We
always say the Pledge before bredge.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
They are very much into the Pledge of Allegiance and
they love the Star Spangled banner before national games. They
love it before we play in the backyard, they we
have to sing the national anthem before we can play
any sport.
Speaker 17 (23:17):
Baser ever, she's hammered go to national anthem? No crap, Yeah,
I didn't know that about her. Haul hilarious, Like she
just sings it or she karaokes it. She'll just sing
it and I'll be like, I'll be sitting there about
six deep middle of my living room, hand over the heart.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
I'll make a note for the convention, get Bay to
sing national anthem to night on the party bus, but
she's six deep, hey Bay. Before the party bus takes
off the you know tractor, Nashville tractor, Nashville tractor. Before
they pull us around the city, can you lead us
in the national anthem?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Please personally with Lloyd fuels Man.
Speaker 18 (24:17):
Lindsay Tran is with us today. She's a certified energy
healer and coach, also known as the Real Love Alchemist
on social media.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Lindsay, how are you doing.
Speaker 19 (24:28):
I'm really good, super excited to be here. Thank you
for having me.
Speaker 18 (24:31):
And you mentioned that firework feeling and often that people
refer to as butterflies, And I saw when you're posts
on social media talking about this, and I thought it
was so interesting because I've experienced many different kinds of
butterflies in my dating, good, bad, everywhere in between. What's
your thoughts on this, Like, what are butterflies and what's
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the situation with them? Should we be avoiding them, happy
that they're around?
Speaker 10 (24:56):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Oh?
Speaker 19 (24:57):
Yeah, yeah? Butterflies, man, they could be super confusing because,
like you said, you can feel all kinds of different
sensations down there and they can mean a lot of
different things, So you know, My stance on it is
that I would not go by butterflies to tell you anything,
because typically their thought of is just like sensations in
the stomach, and you can have those kinds of sensations
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when you're excited, when you're turned on well, but also
when you're feeling unsafe, when you're feeling anxious. So like,
if that's that's the deal with butterflies, then I just
tell my clients, like, don't go by them, Like it's
nice to notice when they're there, and you can you
can say, oh, I feel butterflies, Maybe I want to
investigate that a little bit more, like what is that
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actually telling me what am I feeling here? Sometimes they
can even be present when we feel love, So it's
it's super confusing, and I just say, like, throw the
butterfly thing away, like it really is not a reliable
indicator for whether someone's right for you or wrong for you,
because it could be present in so many different situations.
A good question, thank you.
Speaker 18 (26:01):
Oh yeah, And it's so hard, right because I have
grown up on Disney movies and I've been taught that
butterflies are what you're looking for, like you should be
swept off your feet Heck, even Princess Diaries taught me
that I should be foot popping when I'm kissing, you
know what I mean. Like, there's so many levels of this,
So I love that you said it has multiple levels
and maybe just like use it as your body's reacting
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to something and nothing more than that.
Speaker 19 (26:26):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, Like don't if you're asking for just
straight up advice, don't go by butterflies. Yeah, like can
mean so many different things.
Speaker 9 (26:33):
Yeah, oh that's good.
Speaker 18 (26:34):
Okay, but I'm glad we made sure to squash that
little bug, if you will.
Speaker 9 (26:39):
I also want to talk about I think.
Speaker 18 (26:41):
There's this kind of this perception around people who jump
from relationship to relationship, good and bad. Right, There's some
people who are like, oh, good for them. There's other
people like, holy crap, what are they doing? What is
this situation with people who jump to relationship to relationship
that you've seen? Is this more normal or is it
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something that we shouldn't be doing?
Speaker 4 (27:04):
How do we know we're healing?
Speaker 18 (27:06):
Like this kind of baseline of just jumping from a
relationship to relationship.
Speaker 19 (27:11):
Yeah, I like to talk about that because I was
that person in my past, Like I pretty much jumped
from a ten year marriage into another relationship, and yeah,
it really was just a matter of a couple months,
so I could totally relate to being in that place.
And you know, I would say if I put myself
(27:31):
in my head at that time. There were a number
of different reasons why I was doing that, and a
lot of them are unconscious. That's why I'm a big
on subconscious work. But some of the reasons were I
didn't want to be alone because I had been in
this relationship for so long and the thought of starting
over again completely and being single for a while just
(27:52):
completely filled me with dread. I just felt like, oh,
it's so daunting. I don't want to do it now.
This was not completely conscious, but that was going on
in the back of my mind. And the other reason
was I had told myself, which was not actually true,
but I had told myself that I had done a
lot of the grieving while in the relationship because it
(28:12):
was a long time coming. Like I didn't just pop
out of there. I had done a lot of work
to get to that point, and I thought I was
over it at that point, which was not completely not true,
but that's what I was thinking at the time, and Also,
I was trying to avoid the deep pain, the deep
grieving that I really actually needed to do before getting
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into a relationship. So I thought, well, I'll just pop
in here and like I'll just feel better and that'll
be it. I'll just be good. So I think a
lot of those reasons are why people jump from relationship
to relationship. Now I can't speak for everyone here, but
that's usually what I see, like some variation of those
or even all of them going on at once. And
I would say, like, no judgment if you want to
(28:56):
do that, cool, but I would say if you're if
you're looking to break this psych of these painful relationships,
you probably do want to pause because it's very different
actually being single after a relationship and taking that time
to figure out why am I now? How did I
get to this point and what do I actually want
(29:18):
moving forward? Because I from my experience, you can't get
that kind of perspective while you're in the relationship with somebody,
even if you think you've done all the processing, like
you've done all the work, it's different when you're single.
It's different when you're out of that relationship. So I mean, unfortunately,
I do see it a lot. But again, if you're
trying to break the cycle of painful relationships, I would
(29:39):
not recommend relationship hopping.
Speaker 10 (29:52):
Hey it's Mike d and this week all movie Mike's
Movie Podcast. My wife and co host Kelsey joined me.
Every single month we do our big recap episode where
we're talking about all the movies we've seen in theaters
and streaming at home. So it's a big movie dump
of movies we think you should check out, whether they're
still in theaters or they're coming to streaming soon, and
movies we think you should avoid altogether because they're not
(30:13):
worth your time, not worth your money. So I'm gonna
play you our best picks right now, but be sure
to listen to the full episode to hear our worst.
We also give our TV recommendations to on this episode.
So right now, here's just a little bit of Movie
Mike's Movie Podcast. I'm gonna go Baby Girl, Really, Baby Girl?
Speaker 13 (30:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (30:30):
Why did you like that movie so much?
Speaker 13 (30:32):
Well, while we saw it at the Bellcourt, which is
I feel like seeing any movie there makes it infinitely
better because it's just got this like old time theater
kind of vibe, like they have curtains on the stage
and people respect the like no cell phones, no talking.
Speaker 10 (30:48):
That is the only theater we go to which we
only go to really to that one into Regal, but
nobody pulls out their cell phone ever. You never see
it alone. You don't even see really people leave I
guess to go to the bathroom, but.
Speaker 13 (31:02):
Which I must say, they do dollar popcorn and drink refills,
and I take advantage of that every time.
Speaker 10 (31:07):
Which when we go to that theater it is a small,
independent theater. We always try to buy snacks there. I
know sometimes I take my own snacks when we go
to Regal, but it's like a big chain. We also
have the Yeah, still get drinks and popcorn. I don't
really have anything that can eat there. But at Bellcourt
we always make it a point to support them because
that's how they make a lot their money.
Speaker 13 (31:28):
We are remembers now with the bell Court.
Speaker 10 (31:30):
So if you go to a local theater, always buy snacks.
Was it also getting to see her afterwards that maybe
heighten it a little bit?
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (31:38):
Absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (31:39):
I can feel kind of the presence of her being
there afterwards and hearing her talk about it made me
enjoy it more. It's kind of like whenever they have
premieres at like film festivals and the person is actually there.
I think that's why sometimes those movies get really big
standing ovations that are like eleven minutes long, because there's
something about them being there. But I still think even
(31:59):
with out her presence, I enjoyed that movie way more
than I was expecting.
Speaker 13 (32:03):
To, as did I, which is why it's my best
of the month.
Speaker 10 (32:06):
My best of the month for December. We saw a lot,
and I'll run through it more once we're all done
with both of our picks. I'm going to go with
The Complete Unknown.
Speaker 13 (32:15):
Really good.
Speaker 10 (32:16):
It was, I think because of my low expectations for
music biopicks right now that coming off of Elvis, which
was totally glossy and flashy and didn't really feel like
a traditional biopic it's very fantastical. This one was a
little bit more set in reality, and it also didn't
(32:36):
focus on his entire career, which I enjoyed. It was
pretty much how he got discovered, how his first album
didn't really work out well, and then all leading up
to whenever he went electric, so becomes famous and then
totally wants to change what he's doing. So I think
it was the fact that it didn't try to cover
his entire life, which sometimes just feels like way too
(32:58):
much to fit into a two and hours half hour movie.
I think that is why I ended up enjoying it more.
It was focused more on early leading up to one point,
so unlike most traditional biopics that are just their entire
life all trying to be into one movie, I feel
like it told a story better because it was like,
here's this guy just trying to get his music heard
by people, ends up changing a genre, bringing new life
(33:23):
into it, and then has this dilemma when he kind
of wants to step away from that a little bit.
And also, Timothy shallow May I thought did a really
good job as Bob Dylan, even though there are some
moments where you can tell, oh, that's Timothy shallow May
being Timothy shallow May.
Speaker 13 (33:35):
Yeah, there were a few where like just his personality
came through, and I feel like that's hard to do because.
Speaker 10 (33:40):
I felt that too in Dune too, where there is
some intense moments, but then it's almost like the way
he speaks, where everybody in Dune speaks so like almost
theatrical and like old school, and they have like this
different dialect. Sometimes he just sounds like a California I
don't think he's from California, but it sounds like that
(34:00):
Hollywood kid.
Speaker 13 (34:01):
I laugh because I don't know if you've seen any
of the tweets about like when he and Kylie Jenner
first started dating, and but people were like, why does
everyone just assume that Timothy Chalomay is just like astute
Shakespearean lover of literature, Like just because he's been in
like Little Women and other like intense serious movies. They're like,
(34:22):
he might not be as like Shakespearean intense as people
think he is.
Speaker 10 (34:28):
Yeah, I mean he is a theater kid, so he
has that aspect to him. But I think, like you
were saying, people were so surprised when he went on
college game day and knew a lot about football. It's
like he's like a mid twenties white.
Speaker 13 (34:40):
Dude on SML Pete Davidson, And.
Speaker 10 (34:44):
When you see him outside of his roles, he seems
like a normal dude. Like all the press he did
for this movie seemed like a normal dude.
Speaker 13 (34:51):
I mean, maybe his name too, just Timothy Chalomy.
Speaker 10 (34:53):
It's true, it's a weird way to spell Timothy it
already looks regal.
Speaker 13 (34:58):
Timothy Chela may just rolls off the tongue.
Speaker 10 (35:00):
It sounds like a very regal name. Like when he's fifty,
it's gonna sound like, oh yeah, it's Timothy Shallomy in
the same way we look at Denzel Washington now kind
of has that feel. What do you think about Edin
Norton looking very much older?
Speaker 13 (35:13):
I legit had to IMDb during the movie because I
was like, who is that? He looks so familliar And
I was like, excuse me, former mister incredible Hulk.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
Yeah, they made him look really old.
Speaker 8 (35:21):
He's only fifty five.
Speaker 13 (35:22):
They made him look very what's the word I was
about to say, daddy, But that's not what I meant.
Speaker 10 (35:28):
I meant like dad, like Dad, core, Dad, Core, thank you,
that's even more grandpa core. He looked very old, but
I thought he was. He was good in that. I
could have seen somebody else in that role. Yeah, But
I think overall the movie taught me about Bob Dylan.
Speaker 13 (35:48):
When I knew nothing about Bob Dylan, I didn't.
Speaker 10 (35:50):
Really know anything about his story as far as how
he got to start his whole relationship with the other
singer John Biaz in this movie. I didn't really know
who you want us to be honest, there are about
four Bob Dylan songs that I like, and after watching
this movie, I did go back and listen to him.
I enjoy them, but it wasn't the same way whenever
(36:11):
I went to go see Bohemian Rhapsody that I got
very into Queen's music. I don't think I'll have that
same trajectory after watching this movie.
Speaker 13 (36:21):
I think I liked the Wonka soundtrack more.
Speaker 10 (36:23):
Yeah, we did listen to that more. We listened to
Bob Dylan on the way home from watching this movie.
You cute it up and we haven't really dipped back
into it since, so thinks. I think that's about where
I am.
Speaker 13 (36:34):
Yeah, I'm think he's great. It's just not my musical taste.
Like I respect him as an artist and think he's
very talented, just isn't what I want to listen to.
Speaker 10 (36:44):
I also enjoyed that it did show him being a dick.
Speaker 13 (36:47):
It did. Yeah, it wasn't glossy like Bob Dylan's the best.
It was kind of like, oh, we kind of screwed
some people over and like left behind the people who
helped him get a start.
Speaker 10 (36:57):
And most times when biopics come out where the person
is still alive, that is the reason I don't like it,
because not that he he still gave some approval on
this movie. He wasn't a producer or anything on it,
but obviously they wanted to put it out with his blessing,
and he watched it before and approved of it. He
thought Timothy Shalama did a good job portraying him, But
(37:19):
it was the fact that they still left in some
of the things that didn't paint him out to be
a saint, which they always try to paint whoever they're
making a bio pick out to be the perfect person.
Speaker 13 (37:27):
Like they didn't realize her.
Speaker 10 (37:29):
Because if you look at what Elvis is versus what
the movie Priscilla is, two totally different movies sides of things,
they don't show anything bad about Elvis, So I enjoyed
that aspect of it. I thought also the music on
its own was really good in the movie, with Timothy
Shallome singing, and for a movie that had a lot
(37:51):
of music throughout, not even Bob Dylan music, but other music,
it did a really good job at holding my attention
because sometimes when you put music in a movie that
people don't joy. It's like, oh man, you're gonna bore people. Yeah,
I wasn't bored, but yeah, that's why my best of
the month goes to a complete unknown. I stand by
my four point five out of five.
Speaker 16 (38:09):
At cary Lone.
Speaker 9 (38:20):
She's a queen and talking and it was.
Speaker 8 (38:24):
She's getting really.
Speaker 9 (38:25):
Not afraid to faces episode, so just let it flow.
Speaker 16 (38:29):
No one can do we crowd cary Lone. It's sounding
care Lone.
Speaker 20 (38:37):
The way that my whole thing, what's happened is really
crazy because I had auditioned for this like rock school,
and I'm like sixteen at this time, and I didn't.
Speaker 15 (38:47):
Get in, but somebody school like to go to school.
It was like a like a.
Speaker 20 (38:51):
Program where they would like there was teachers and they
would teach you something.
Speaker 15 (38:55):
And you're unconventional.
Speaker 20 (38:56):
Yeah, I mean I but I think I was just
uh trying to take advantage of every opportunity. I'm sure
my mom had found it online like I did a
million seeing competitions and talent shows and commercials and whatever
it was that I could do. My mom was willing
to drive me to audition, which is so sweet. The
best she literally is the best an sister. Yes, I
(39:17):
saw you're a poster and we are like a little
trio totally.
Speaker 15 (39:20):
Yeah, it was. It was just three of.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Us, and your dad always absent.
Speaker 20 (39:25):
He he definitely was absent even when he was there,
and if he was there, he wasn't Like he was
not a very good energy. So I think as soon
as I got a little older, I was kind of
like if he was home, like I would just like keep.
Speaker 15 (39:38):
Driving my friend's house kind of thing.
Speaker 20 (39:40):
Yeah, very angry, kind of volatile person, just not like
a good guy, I guess if that makes sense.
Speaker 15 (39:46):
And healed un healed lots to lots to heal for sure, So.
Speaker 21 (39:51):
You've done a lot of healing, even like your songs
are so like advanced consciously, like I feel like you're
not even you're writing like breakup songs and you're writing
like real stuff, but you're also like very conscious and
aware of like your mental wellbeing and like the process
of healing. Do you think that's from your childhood and
like witnessing your dad being unhealed kind of that's like.
Speaker 15 (40:09):
I've never actually like thought that before.
Speaker 20 (40:11):
I think for me, like my I grew up a
little it was a little unconventional and it was hard.
I felt a lot of envy and like discomfort, feeling
like my home life like didn't look like other peoples.
Speaker 21 (40:23):
In one house down from the girl next door. Yeah,
you just felt like you were like almost there but
not quite.
Speaker 20 (40:29):
And I was really angry and I didn't feel like
anyone was listening to me, and so I got into
a lot of trouble, Like I was really just searching
for things and ended up in some situations and had
some trauma and it was just like kind of a
bit of a wreck, and I think that it all
kind of caught up to me and I started to
experience a lot of like anxiety and panic and that
(40:49):
it got so bad that I had to seek help,
like I needed to talk to somebody and therapist totally,
and that like intervention really my life. But it also
like unlocked this like level of consciousness that I think
I didn't know was there. And that's why I always
think there's so many benefits to go into therapy or
going on your mental health journey. But like it just
(41:11):
deepened and widened, and like I felt like I was
kind of asleep and it woke me up as well
as like my spirituality as while I kind of came
to Christianity later in life, and it was the same
type of thing where I was like.
Speaker 21 (41:21):
That's awesome because it's real, totally absolutely it wasn't. You
didn't just grow up with it and inherit someone's beliefs.
Speaker 15 (41:27):
You actually have your own beliefs. Nobody was ever like
you should go to church whatever. It was truly at
the ground.
Speaker 20 (41:35):
Zero, bottom low place where someone had invited me to
church so much and I had turned them down so much.
And then one day I was like, you know what,
like ef it? What how much worse can it get?
Kind of thing, I'll try anything. And then it was
like this like wave of you know, all the magical
things that come with opening your eye.
Speaker 4 (41:52):
What was the breaking moment for you?
Speaker 20 (41:55):
I remember just being really numb, like I didn't I
was just super appathy about everything. I didn't care about everything.
So similar I mean, really depression really, that's that's the
main kind of indicator. And just didn't want to be home.
I didn't want to be in my body. I kind
of wanted to be somewhere else. And so a lot
of dissociating, a lot of drinking, a lot of just
(42:17):
like however I can just kind of run for my.
Speaker 21 (42:19):
Life and oh my gosh, and your song make up
Holy cow, thank you, thank you. Talk about like putting
into words like what is the lines like I don't
know if I hate my body because my mom always did,
or if I have an anger because.
Speaker 20 (42:32):
Like, yeah, oh my god, I was like, girl you
are that's like my favorite song.
Speaker 15 (42:37):
Well, I mean that song. I don't love performing it.
Speaker 20 (42:40):
Because it's like triggering a little bit and you just
have to take this huge deep breath and then sing
this like incredibly personal song to this crowd of people
who don't know, and it's like it I don't know,
it's it's a hard one. But writing it, like I've
never felt more like it was coming from somewhere else
and I was just like writing it down like it
was really kind of spooky the way that it happened.
(43:01):
It came so easily, and just the writing of it
and that the thinking about it because I knew I
wanted to write this kind of song was so healing
in a real way for me. And I think it's
just so important because whatever your trauma, these like cycles
are in your family, whether they're you know, body image
issues or anger or alcoholism or whatever it is. You
(43:22):
just kind of feel like you're you're really predisposed to it,
and it's almost like, oh, I have to have this,
like I have to hold it, and it's like you don't.
Speaker 15 (43:29):
You can be whoever you want. Your cycle can end
with you.
Speaker 20 (43:31):
And we hear that, but that was this real moment
where it was like I have complete control.
Speaker 15 (43:35):
I felt it.
Speaker 21 (43:36):
I felt it and just hearing people say that, because
a lot of that's just like words until you actually
like internalize it and feel it for yourself absolutely.
Speaker 20 (43:44):
And like with the anger too, I mean like I was.
It was my husband and my boyfriend at the time.
He was like, it's like you kind of like you're
not even home when you get really angry, and that I.
Speaker 15 (43:55):
Just remember sobbing.
Speaker 20 (43:56):
I was like that was like my dad like he
just wasn't there because he was so mad and it
was heartbreaking to me. And I'm like I can't be
I can't be that and oh my gosh, I'm not
going to be an angry mom like one day, Like.
Speaker 15 (44:07):
I cannot do that.
Speaker 20 (44:09):
And so I was like, how do I like unpack
this and figure out tools and know when I'm like
getting kind of heated, I'm like, I need to step away.
And you would never know that about me, like because
I'm a very chill, happy person, but for some reason,
like I could get into the space where I would
just kind of lose my shit.
Speaker 15 (44:27):
Can you swear?
Speaker 8 (44:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 20 (44:28):
Yeah, and it just it wasn't cute and then.
Speaker 21 (44:31):
And you probably felt terrible afterwards. Oh my god, I
feel like I very much relate to you because I
am so empathetic to the point where it's like debilitating,
and I have had to work so much on it.
And I'm forty one years old now and I finally
am at a place where I can like exist in
the world, I think without Like I use, I really
can't watch the news. I can't hear about kids suffering.
Yeah it's not like I want to put my head
(44:52):
in the sand. But also it's like, I know, I
cannot hear about things that I can't help with at
this point in my life because I will internalize it.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
It will ruin my day.
Speaker 21 (45:01):
It will sink my vibration because I'm like, oh my god,
the world is so full of suffering, Like and other
people traumatic that upset and.
Speaker 15 (45:08):
You're like what are you? What do you mean? How
are you just like okay with that?
Speaker 20 (45:12):
And then people are like, well, you know, I can't
personally do anything right the second, but I totally feel you.
Speaker 21 (45:17):
But I had an anger problem too, Like I would
lose it and it would come over me. And it's
like I knew I wasn't an angry person because I
knew I was so loving and empathetic, but like I
would just like lose my shit and I would feel
terrible afterwards.
Speaker 15 (45:31):
Yeah, it's awful, you know for sure.
Speaker 11 (45:42):
And that was this week's Sunday sampler.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
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