May 7, 2025 • 48 mins
Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel discuss the questions that fans want to know from NFL players. Matt addresses being nervous and how using sports psychology helped solve his issues. How much does it hurt to get hit by a charging LB? What gets eaten at halftime? While Matt has had teammates he didn't like, Bobby tells a shocking behind the scenes story from his time on ''American Idol'.
Bobby will be part of the upcoming Academy of Country Music Awards and teases what to expect. Bobby almost got a hole in one while playing golf and talks about being on the course. Back to the ACMs, Bobby explains what he'll doing doing on the show along with another event where he'll be roasting Brooks and Dunn. Bobby gets some practice by roasting Matt!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. We got
lots to say, we got lots to say, what the back?
And we hope you say because we got.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Lost to say, yeah we got lost, just say here's
Bobby that.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
You know what I did, mister Castle is. I got
online and I said, hey, what would you always want
to ask a former NFL player? Because I think at
times you played, it's hard for you to know what
normal people want to know because you know everything there
is to know, like you know all the inside and outs, right,
And I guess I'm in it to a point where
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not like you are, but I talk about it. A
lot of friends have played. I travel to these organizations,
so I probably sometimes don't ask questions that I think
people want to know when it comes to the elementary
version of football. So I said, hey, send me your
questions you'd want to know from an NFL player, Okay,
and again these are going to be the most basic
elementary questions. But then I started to go, yeah, I'm
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interested in this too, so I have like ten okay, okay,
Question number one, did you get nervous before every game.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I'd say yes to some degree, some more than others.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
For whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It's usually the opponent, like when you were going up
against the Baltimore Ravens and Ray Lewis is sitting on
the other side and you knew that you had to
play at a level to be really good that day.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It added extra pressure.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
And it was always that feeling before the game. I
used to get those pre game jitters, and I hate
that feeling. But it's once you get out on the
field and you take that first hit or you get
through that first series that things start to slow down
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
But I always get nervous before the game.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
What would you tell people about nerves or how to
beat nerves.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
The biggest thing for me was honestly getting into my routine.
So when I would get to the stadium, I'd get
there early, do some stretching, then I'd go walk out
on the field, check where the clocks were on the field,
and then I'd have a little routine, just get a
little bit of sweat going. Even before this is pre pregame,
and for me, it just kind of started to set
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my mind up because it was the build up to
the game. To get to the actual game and start start.
That was always I had to be in the sequence
and had that process of getting my mind right, because
by the time the game came around, I was ready
to go. And so for me, that was what really
helped my nerves. But in terms of nerves in general,
it started even the day before because I'm one of
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those guys that would sometimes chase ghosts, right, what I have
they do this? Or if we have this called what
can I check to you to get to a better play?
And so you just are rehearsing it and visualizing it
in your mind the night before the game, and then
once you get to the stadium it becomes real.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I worked on American Idol for four seasons, and I
would work with the contestants a lot about nerves because
they would all go, how do you beat your nerves?
And I think the number one thing is you don't
really defeat your nerves. I think you get to a
place where you can understand your nerves, you can actually
be grateful. One of the things that I would talk
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about with them was there are only a few times
in life that you get to be nervous about something
that could possibly go right, because a lot of times
when you get nervous about something, it's a health scare,
it's a family but think about this, You have earned
the right to get to be nervous about something that
could possibly go right. And a little bit of that
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perspective shared helped. And I also think I would say
reps of doing it, because the more you do it
and it doesn't go right, the more you're not nervous
about it not going right because you realize you can
bounce back from it pretty easily. For sure, you do
it right, well, that's cool, but what about next time
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if it doesn't go right. How to really get rid
of nerves is for it not to go exactly right
and you still to be okay. And I would talk
to them a lot about that, and they really wouldn't
want to hear me. Go, if it doesn't go perfect,
you'll understand how you can climb out of these situations.
And they would go, yeah, but I wanted to go perfect.
I'm like, hey, here's the story. It ain't always going
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to go perfect. It's rarely going to go perfect. It
may never go perfect. So it was always reps and
understanding that you get to be nervous for something that
you have worked hard to do and that you love
to do. That was like the macro version of what
I would talk to performers about. But it is kind
of cool that you get to be nervous about something
you love to do.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And I think that was the turning point for me
in my career because a lot of times it was
the fear of failure, of letting your team down, of
being embarrassed by a performance because so many people watch
and there's so much attention, particularly on the quarterback position,
because you're running the show out there. And so the
switch change for me was I've got to go do
this today because this is my job versus I love
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that I get this opportunity.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
This is a privilege to go out there.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
And so I changed that fear into more of I
love the fact that I get to go play with
my guys. We were ready for this, and so it
came more love based and just an appreciation for what
I got to do for a living. And it took
that fear away from just making that mistake.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Again.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
You still feel awful when you have it, but like
you said, I was able to bounce back a lot
quicker and not let that resonate for a long period
of time because of that mindset.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Did you ever go to a sports psychologist and were
they as in play then as they are now?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I did, and it was really going from it was
everybody had a sports psychologist available to them for the
organizations that I played for, including New England, and I
would talk to them a little bit and they would
come into the they would be available after practice and
stuff like that. And early on in my career when
I was just trying to hang on and make it,
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and year and year out was a grind because you
really were on a year to year contry. But then
when I went to New England in Kansas City, and
I arrived when I stepped in for Brady that year,
and then I went to Kansas City and it was
a completely different organization, new coaching staff, how things operated
from a day to day standpoint, and we struggled.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
We won four games that first year that I was there.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So I started to feel that pressure and I knew
that I needed someone to help me filter through these
feelings and also that anxiety of needing to be the guy,
and so I went and met this guy in his
name I believe is Sal Miller, and he wrote a.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Book that I read on my own.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I thought this would be great to meet him, and
my wife actually hooked got in contact with him, hooked
him up and so we did a few sessions and
it was just giving you a different perspective on what
you get to do. And he describes this idea of
it's the fight or flight and.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
The animal kingdom.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You'd look at the animal kingdom and you say, you know,
you've got your deer and certain certain animals like that
that run for their life, they're scared of every sound.
And then you've got this example would be a lion
that's fierce, that's tough, that is going to attack the problem,
or everybody's fearful of them. So take on that mindset.
And so it was just a different perspective to look
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at things. And I think it helped in many ways
because that next year, in twenty ten, was the first
year I got voted into the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
So there's there.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You definitely could see some correlation between success and mindset.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Guys in the locker room are like, why is Castle
aways growling? No, he's a lion. I let them do
a thing. I question two, how bad does it actually
hurt to get tackled by a linebacker.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Depends on how they hit you.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Now, I think that you're more susceptible as a quarterback
to get hit hard because you're exposed in when you're throwing,
and everything that you have to do is you kind
of keep your eyes downfield, step into your throat, and
so when they're a blitzing linebacker, they come untouched and
they light you up in the chest. I mean it
cannot I've had the breath knocked out of me. I
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felt like I broke my chin, and I've had a
concussion all from the pocket, and so those those hurt
for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Sometimes when you.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Get hit in the back and you get that little whiplash,
it's not until the next day you really feel that.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
But then there's just different areas.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I used to get stepped on on the foot from
a big linebacker or cleaned in the shin. I got
a hip pointer one time, Oh man, that hurts like hell.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
See a hit pointer, much like turf toe, does not
feel like it would hurt. However, both really painful, really painful.
They should name them something like mean or like the
hip jugguler has been ripped out. You know seriously, because again,
those are very painful injuries, but they sound like soft
Disney terms.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I got hit in my tailbone once so hard because
I was took off running and I was trying to
dodge a defender downfield to kind of cut back in.
Didn't see a defensive lineman coming, and he put his
face mask on my tailbone. And we don't wear tailbones
and hip pads like the kids do. Dude, I thought
he broke my tailbump. I could hardly walk for like
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four days. It was brutal.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Weird question about getting hit If it's earlier in the game,
your adrenaline's pumping, do the hits not hurt as bad
solely because the adrenaline is pumping.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I would agree with that, because every game that you
play in now, the older you get and the more
you have an understanding for what's about to take place,
you're adrenaline. You can calm it down a little bit,
but you have adrenaline every time you step on that field,
and so particularly early on, you might get hit and
you just hop back up and you're like, Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That was a really good hit.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
But you're able to pop up and kind of put
it in the back of your mind. As the game
wears on and things calm themselves down, the game slows
down a little bit for you. Then you start to
feel a little bit more. And again it all depends
on how your hit, where your hit, all those different
aspects that come into play.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Question three. Do they serve food at halftime?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
They do, well, not really food, but they've got you know,
your own crustables. They've got oranges, they've got protein bars,
milkshake or not really milkshakes, I'd say protein shakes, and
they have just kind of snack food more so than
actual food.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
So I more refueling than it is like a meal.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
One hundred percent, because any any guy will tell you,
and you've seen these guys out there, particularly offensive line
that'll throw down a protein shake or something too much
and you just see him barfing all over the field.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's so nasty.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
That's probably why they're doing that then, because they went
so hard at it. Oh yeah, like in the middle,
just shoved one down.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I had a buddy Ryan Khalil I think, I mean
Ryan Lilja, I think it was that was literally puking
in his three point stance while while I'm giving the
cadence and I'm like, bro, are you okay? Just losing
his lunch out there? It was so nasty.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Better that than flu, Better that than flu.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I actually had handfoot in mouth one time. I got
it from my kids, and it.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Was I'm not familiar with what handfoot in mouth.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I wasn't either.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I think it's a Southern thing, because you know, growing
up it was chicken pox. Handfoot in mouth is this
thing that when you say when I say mouth, you
get like blisters all over your tongue, down your throat
and then your hands and feet blister.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Look it up. I'm so because I am from the
South and I never had it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I never heard of it.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
So my kids come home and the doctor diagnosed them
with handfoot and mouth, and I was like, what the
hell is this? And so I even this is before COVID.
I'm wearing a mask around the house, try not to
get it.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I'm two weeks left in preseason. So then I go
and we're playing a preseason game against the Raiders and
I'm starting to get the chills.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I don't feel good and we had the night game.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
So I go in, I take a tour it all shot,
and I go and I have to start that game.
Well that night, as I'm going home, now you can
start to see these little dots on my hand.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I'm going, oh no.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I go in the next day, my throats sore all
these things, and I tell the doctor. I was like,
my kids had hand, foot and mouth like two weeks ago.
I think I might have it because I'm starting to
get little red dots right here. He's like, no, adults,
it's really in adults. And he's like, you probably have bedbugs.
Next morning, can't swallow blisters everywhere. Now my hands are
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getting blisters all over. I've got like the Google search
engine worst case scenario of handfoot in mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, you're about to die of cancer or something, or
cas got fever or something.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
And he's like, yeah, you've got hand and foot in mouth.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Finally he gives me something. WHOA, I give it to
three of my linemen and one of my deals. No way,
because they didn't let me go home.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
And also does it sound real?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It doesn't sound real. It was a full outbreak on
the team because of me and my kids. So I
brought and I told them, hey, I've got handfoot in mouth.
Do you want me to come in. They're like, well,
you're starting this week in the last preseason game, why
don't you come out to practice.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I looked.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I looked like a hospital patient. I had full sleeves on,
it's ninety eight degrees. I'm wearing gloves on both hands,
trying to get through it, and I still passed it
on to these days.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
They were so pissed off at me.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
That's not your fault because you didn't know. And the
team was like, you need to still show up in practice.
That's a while.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I felt awful.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It's a common, highly contagious viral illness that affects that
affects mostly infants and young children, rarely adults. That's what's crazy. Fever,
sore throat, painful mouth, sores, small red spots that blister, skin,
rash on hands, feet, and sometimes buttocks or legs.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Thank god, I didn't get on the buttocks, but I
did lose my fingernails.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And there's no specific treatment, no meaning, there isn't something
you can put on to make it go away because
it's a virus. Just rest, hydration, and it says, whatever
you do, don't go into the game.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, I look like wookie okay for something about Mary
it was brutal bro So yeah, so that's that's something
that I had got and foot.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Mouth was crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Okay. Next up, this is number four seven. You get
to keep your uniforms.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Actually have to buy your jerseys and your helmets at
the end of season.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You have the option to do that every year.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Can you buy it during the season just to get
a new one? What if you trade jerseys with somebody.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
You know they're probably is that factor now where.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
They have as much all they will charge the player
for trading jerseys with another player.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Did that happen as much when you played.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
No, It started at the tail end probably of my career,
where it became something that you saw players go out
and consistently do it, where they're seeking out a particular
player and trading jerseys. It wasn't as popular when I
first came in the league, or even through the mid
mid part of my career, but it really started to
hit its stride later on.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Were there some players and don't mention any names that
you did not like to be on the same team with.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
You did not like one percent, one hundred percent, And
a lot of that comes down to we're number one?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Are you a good teammate? Number two? Do I respect you?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Do you come out do your job and at the
same time give great effort day in and day out.
Are you one of those guys that is a problem
or a cancer in the locker room that not only
do you have a beef with whatever is going on.
I'm fine if you're pissed off with a coach, go
do it behind closed doors.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Don't call him out in front of the entire team.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Or do you get in the locker room in one
of these guys that just bitch and complain and you
bring those other guys along with you, Because I've had
veterans that should know better that just for whatever reason,
they're discontent, they're upset, whether it's scheme, whether it's coaching,
however it might be. And then they go and rally
the troops around this negative energy and feed into these
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young guys the wrong ideals about what it means to
be a professional and a good teammate.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
How does a guy who doesn't put in the effort,
doesn't put in the work end up making it to
such an elite level. Is it just because he's such
an athlete?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Naturally that's a lot of I mean a lot of
times you overlook character for your abilities. And that's what
you see a lot of times when you look throughout
the league and you'll see these guys get in trouble
or some of these issues that you have, but it
will be swept under the rug and looked at differently
because on Sundays they show up and they'll play their
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butt off, right, and so you you do like those
guys in a particular sense when you're competing. But when
you have to go through an entire season and it's
drama filled and it's this, that and the other, it
becomes taxing and it wears on you.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I would imagine when you aren't winning, that's a lot
harder to be around.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
When you're winning, you know, your coffee tastes a little
bit better in the morning, the breakfast bagels, Oh gosh,
this tastes.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Better when you're losing.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Everybody feels that because there's so much pressure on every organization,
every individual, every coach, year in and year out. And
when you're on a skid man, you can feel it
day in and day out, and it's just this weird
environment when you come in because everybody's just in a
bad mood. You've probably been around teammates yourself though that
have or people that you've worked with that you go,
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I thought this guy.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Was gonna be great, but they are.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And you work in an industry, You work in an
industry that's probably has a lot of egos and everything
else that is very similar to what we do.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, Katy Perry was the worst, seriously, the worst, the
literal worst.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
In what in what manner just as a human person,
how she treated people.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yes, yeah, and it was, but she was the highest paid,
and she was the jewel of that American Idol four
seasons that I was on. There was one time, I've
never told this story. There was one time, and I
I love to understand, I'm fifth string on that show,
like I know my role right, and they were paying
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me seven figures, but it wasn't close to the seven figures.
They were paying eight figures they were paying everybody else.
Because Luke Bryan a plus guy. I love him, my friend,
he's been on this show. He was making ten million plus.
Lionel Richie, greatest dude ever, does not have to be
great because he is a legend Lionel Richie. I wish
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I were related to him. The kindest guy. Ryan Seacrest,
who all those people made over Ten and Secrets, was
so great to me. Even though they brought me in
not to replace him. They brought me in for if
he wasn't able to get back. Because he was doing
Live with Kelly and Ryan in New York. We were
shooting a lot in LA so they had me in
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to mentor the contestants. But if he couldn't get back,
they would use me in certain places that he would
normally use. I haven't hosted a show once when he
was sick, and I could see that somebody with less
security would go, I don't like a junior varsity version
of me on this show. I was never a threat
to him. I didn't feel like I was a threat
to him, and he didn't feel that way too. In
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the greatest way. There were times where Ryan would come
up to me to be fully transparent and go, hey,
let's talk for a minute. But yeah, what's up? He goes, Hey,
I know you didn't have much money growing up. I
know you have money, Like, do you have people that
are taking care of you, watching out for you? Because
this is what happened with me. He did not have
to do stuffs. Yeah, because Ryan's fewyears older than I am.
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And even when I changed the agencies, like I hit
up Ryan and I said, hey, what do you think?
He was so generous. He was also like on a
yacht and cans, but he was so generous with it.
And so with Katie, I'll give you one specific example
once she was late everywhere all the time. I also
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never thought that I was as big or as important
as them on that show because I wasn't paid, probably
the same way in a football locker room where the
people that make all the money they get a lot
of the attention, a lot of the resources. We were
in Hawaii, I hadn't told the story. I think I'm
just a little tired, so like I'm triggered by everything.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yes, I love it when you're triggered.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So we were in Hawaii and every year we would
go out to the Disney resort because Disney owned ABC,
which had Idol on it, so we all worked for Disney.
So we would go out and shoot for like a
week because a big part of that season before the
Top ten or twelve was done at that resort. Wanted
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to promote the resort too. It gave it like a
Hawaii vibe. And we were doing a bit where they
buried me in the sand and my head was the
only thing popping out of the sand. So they had
dug this hole and they were like, Okay, get in,
and it was some sort of like promo. I don't
even know why she did this, because it wasn't like
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Katie and I had a lot of interaction because most
people were like, don't like, she doesn't want talk to anybody,
to leave her alone. I was like, fine, by me,
all good. And I remember being in the sand with
my head just poking out, and she comes up to
me and she starts screaming, you'll never be Ryan. You're
never going to be Ryan.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Secret, no way.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
And I think it's a joke at first, and I'm
like yeah, but also I don't have any arms or legs.
It's literally just my head. I can't even walk. My
head's out of the sand. She's like, you'll never be him.
Stop trying to be him. And then I realized she's
not kidding. But I don't know why, because I did
nothing to make her mad. I was already told just
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let her do her thing. You know, sometimes she'd show
hours late, whatever, so I never try to be friends
with her. But somebody, and I will not say who,
somebody prominent, because even after that, I got really thick
skin kind of I don't care.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
That would bug me big time.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
It bugged somebody else on the show so bad they
pulled her whole team aside and was like that cannot happen.
And nobody told Katie anything on that show, but they
were like, that cannot happen. But yeah, she was.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I was not there.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
There was no reason to do that. But she was
screaming at me. She wouldn't been having a bad day.
I don't know, but if you're having the worst day,
that's the thing. I hear you.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Why a human like that that works on the same
show as you.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
That's awful. It was awful. It was a really bad,
it speaks really bad experience for me. I I was
just happy that somebody stuck up for me because I
wasn't going to do it. I didn't feel like I
needed to do it because I'll just take it. It's fine,
You're not gonna hurt me.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I'm fine.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
But somebody did, Somebody prominent did, and because they saw
what was happening. So it also made me feel like
I wasn't crazy right, that I wasn't dreaming this scenario.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Am I blacking out? Yeah at me?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, that's a bad one. That's probably my worst experience
ever in I would say Hollywood or TV because mostly
everybody's really respectful and LA gets the wrap of like
people are weird, and they are, but so, I mean,
anybody creative is weird, or any athlete. You got to
be driven to a point where you got to have
a screw loose, right. You just hope it's the right screw. Yeah,
its a bad one. So that was That's like an
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example of that. But we got you know what, got
along fine. I had no choice, been fired. I had
to get along.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I would not be able to get along with a
person like that. Like I hold grudges for a little while.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
It takes me some time to get over, especially when
like that's an intentional trying.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
To scar you.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I just didn't get your words and hurt you so
bad in front of other people too.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Everybody was around that. That's the weirdest person, A highre crew, cameras, everybody. Yeah,
I was a little embarrassed. Yeah, I was all embarrassed. Okay,
next question, Okay, that was amazing. Yeah, that whole thing such.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It wasn't amazing, It was awful actually.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, but also amazing because I name dropped so good.
H two questions. Can you hear the crowd during the
game and can you hear specific people yelling during the game?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Okay, the crowd, you can always hear to a certain extent,
particularly when.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
You're on the road.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
The roar of the crowd is so much louder when
you're on the offensive side of the ball because they're
getting hype, they're trying to trying to support the defense.
So it is can be deafening at times in particular stadiums,
and so you've your concentration level has to go so
much further up because we're on silent count. You're trying
to communicate it a much higher decimal. And then when
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you it's usually on the road, but you can hear,
guys when you come over and sit on the sideline
where you're so close to the fans right there that
there's always somebody you know, a little bit chirpy some
of it to support. Most of the time, if they're
getting really chirpy. You know it's Castle, I hope you
break your leg. You suck Castle, this, that and the other.
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You know, you hear them, You're not paying attention to it.
It's almost comical because it's you one series, it's somebody
else the next series. So they're just they're waiting for
a response, and the worst thing you can do. These
guys will sometimes you see it all the time, they
respond to them, which.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
NBA players especial.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Oh yeah, and it just adds so much fuel to
the fire.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
And then you're just I was like, why are you
escalating this and having a conversation with somebody that is
just trying to get that type of response and incite
some kind of emotional response from you to just get
out of your game and get into a bad headspace.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I just never responded to it.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I think the parallel for me would be responding to
the comments when I know somebody is just trying to
get at me over and over and over again, and
I'm just like, nope, nope, nope, no, I screw it
and I go in and then they just won, like
they just won.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
See That's why I never had social media when I played,
because I'd always sit there and these guys right after
the game would go on and look at their social
media and they're just getting murdered based on our performance.
And it could be their fault. It could be their fault.
But I was like, why are you subjecting yourself to
this type of criticism because we're all human. You could
be the most tough skinned human being ever, but at
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some point you have a breaking point, and that for me,
it just would take away from what I need to
focus on because I'd get I'd get invested like.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
You and be like, all right, this is I'm going.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
To go off. It just takes a trick day like
I had today for me to just go in on somebody.
But it's why that pickleball thing, you know, the big
battle was going to happen till the guy chumped out
like a little so yeah, yeah, how social media does
that to me? I was watching Bennie Blanco talk, he's
a big record producer, and he said, I don't read
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the comments, and most times when people say that, I
don't believe them and I try not to, but I
still do sometimes. And he said, I don't read the
comments because I don't need validation, Like I know what
I'm doing. I was like, that's so powerful. It is
so every time I click down, I go, do I
need the validation? Why am I looking right now? And
that clip of Bennie Blanco saying that.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Reminds you not to try?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, it helped me. Yeah, yeah, it helped me to
not even put myself in a position to be triggered.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Doug Flutie, my rookie year, was the one that said
there was this awesome article that came out in the
Boston Globe about Flutie, his career, what he's been through,
all these different things, And I said, I asked him.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I said, Doug, have you read this article?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
It's really well written art really highlights you everything from
what you did on the field to what you do
off the field with your charity, all these things.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
He's like, no, I never read it. I was like,
but this is a positive one.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
He's like, I don't read positive or negative because every
time I read something, it creates an emotional response in me.
And I just found like, I'm better off, good, badter,
indifferent if I just don't read it in that way.
I don't get too high, don't get too low, And
it's not gonna impact me whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That's great. Yeah, it was great. It was a great
piece of advice.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Last question, did you get mad when you were in
a video game and your rating was low?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
No?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
You know that's really it's so interesting now, right, these
guys will go in and make a case for themselves
about their rating. And I really didn't play that many
video games. It was sparingly that you'd catch me playing
a video game, and so I didn't really care that much.
Now if I was a little insulted every now and
then when you're going you're kind of wait, my passer
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rated thirty one eighty, like da or seventy?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I know I had a little bit of down year,
but you guys didn't take taking a consideration the entire
aspect of our offensive unit here. But so yes, you
get maybe a little offenite. But I never got worked
up over a video game for goodness sakes. I just
always was one of those guys that how cool is
it growing up playing video games with my brothers and
playing with all these guys that I'm actually in a
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video game playing in the NFL again. It's one of
those wow moments that you realize dude, this is cool.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I'm in a video game.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
That is cool. Yeah, I head off to Dallas tonight
because I'm going to do the ACMs on third Let's Gold,
(29:06):
which you're on Amazon Prime, which, by the way, a
little plug have especially on Amazon Prime. Right now. That
is basically about the history of the award show. I'm
interviewing Lanny Wilson, Keith, Thurban Brooks and done and just
talking about the history of it. But what's cool is no,
they Amazon didn't ask us to do it. We just
literally grab cameras and went and shot this thing and
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then said we made this, and they said, oh, okay, yeah,
we like to have it. No way, I couldn't believe
it either.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Brilliant.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
That's the type of business mind that every person needs.
But that's because you're also a grinder.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
The problem. Yeah, I would agree with that. I'm on
grinder a lot. But the the what I would warn
about that is ninety six percent of the time it's
a no. And I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Oh really, you've done that like bits like that before,
absolutely tried to sell them.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
People generally don't want stuff from me because they look
at me and go, I need that guy. But just
like with anything else I've ever done, if I can
just get in, I can absolutely sell and then prove
my value. And so that's what we did. As soon
as I was put on the ACMs, and I've been
on that show the last three years, I had to
have a way to like email somebody like I know
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somebody to email basically, and so we didn't tell anybody
we were doing it, and so we should. We shot it,
read edited it. My buddy Mike wrote a bunch of
the historical stuff called in Favors for Friends and said, hey,
can we interview you? Yeah, and it's on Amazon right
now because we spent a bunch of time just it. Honestly,
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it probably in our mind it was going to be
a note and then we were just going to have
this product that we were just going to put out
on the internet. But yeah, no, I'm a big like
you talked about earlier, bet on yourself guy, because people
don't know about the nos. I don't care about that,
but people will see all the yeses and go, man,
you really got it made. And you're like, if you
had any idea, if you.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Have any idea, this on my own hoping this is
the result that would happen.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So this one works. So you can check it out
on Amazon Prime and watch a search for this just now.
I don't do that, just search for Bobby Bones. I
played golf this past weekend. It was kind of a
work thing. I haven't really played golf much at all recently.
I used to play a lot. I mean this set
that we're on now is basically a golf simulator that
we turned into a set because I was really in
a golf and I haven't used it as a golf
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simulator and probably a year year and a half. I
tore my rotator cuff, messed up my labor. I'm a
little bit so I was on the DL for like
six months, but was just ready to play golf again,
so when it was healthy. It turns out playing golf
takes a long time.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It does.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
It's like four hour and I don't have four hours anymore.
So I kind of stopped playing and put my energy
into pickleball. Love play pickleball. Can do it in an
hour and get a workout in, but I wouldn't play
golf this past week. I've never had a hole in
one you no, never, And I hit a ball I
have bad vision. My right eye doesn't work. It has
eight percent vision. My left eye were really bad. Yeah,
it sucks my whole life. You should wear an eyepach.
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I did wear an eyepatch as a kid. It got
beat up so many times. I stopped wearing it because
I hate to get beat up.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Sorry, I didn't mean to bring him.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
No, No, that's it. I went across the middle and I.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Suck it taken out.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I did wear an eyepatch. It sucked because they used
to call me a little pirate and beat the crap
out of me. Regardless I can't see.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I got my left eyes pretty good. I wore glasses,
were big, thick rimmed glasses. And I hit a ball
on a par three. It's like a one fifty five
one sixty uphill and I'm playing with three guys and
I hit it. And a lot of times I need
my friends to be my seeing eye dogs, not all
the time, because if I happen to hit it in
the middle and the sky is in the perfect I
can see the ball. But a lot of times I can't,
So I need seeing eye dogs with me. I hit
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a ball, it's a perfect clip, perfect click. Yes, you're like,
oh man, I felt good. I say, can you guys
see it? And all three of them go and they
all start going, oh my god, jumping up and down.
No way, and I can't but I can't see anything.
And they're all going, oh, they're jumping up and down,
and I'm thinking, either they talked about this before and
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it's the most elaborate prank ever, but they didn't really
know each other. It was a work thing, so we
were all brought together, so they have the camaraderie to
really like, okay, we're gonna break Bobby.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
So you're saying there's a chance. At that point, you're going, okay,
I'm putting this together.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
The problem too is it went over a hill. So
they're jumping up and down and I'm like, you guys,
you guys think that went in And they're like, there
was great chance it was rolling right at the hole,
and so like all right, we get up and we're
driving up the hill and I'm like, this might have
been my first ever hole in one about a couple close,
a couple closest, but net never in. And we get
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up and I don't, I don't. I don't see the
ball anywhere, and I get and I roll up beside it.
When you hit that one part of the hill, I
see the ball like two feet oh I know. And
it took us to get to the top of it
because they also lost it because right where the pin
was is where the hill hit right. The ball mark
was like three feet right in front of the hole.
It either hit the pin and dinked off or just
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rolled right to the side of it. But it's pretty cool.
It's pretty cool one, but two is hilarious that I
had to rely on them to all start jumping up
and down for me, even believe it was gonna be.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
For you kept your head down, you know, like a
good golfer. I kept my head down, your head down,
came through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna get back.
I'm gonna play golf mildly. But when I play and
I play halfway decent, I go maybe I get a
little better.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You know what I ordered. I ordered a mini driver.
Have you seen those?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I've used one. My buddy has one.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I just ordered one. It's on my front portrait. Now
I haven't used it yet.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
You're pretty sweet.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
It got here as we were gonna do the show.
Now I'm leaving to go to Dallas right after this.
I can't use it. When I get back in Dallas,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Are you stoked about that?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I don't know. You don't know, because if I go
out and play, I want everybody to know. I'm not
a good golfer. I think I shot at eighty three, Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
So I'm not not bad. By the way.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
For me, it's really good. I've never broken eighty. I've
hit eighty a couple times. But I'm not a great golfer.
So I'm not going wow, look at because I have
friends that are great golfers. My friend Ben Rector, Platinum
award artist. Uh, it's seventy four. My friend George Berge
two number ones in all country music, played at University
of Texas.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Right, Oh, so he's elite.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yes, I hate playing with guys.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I love playing with him, but I hate it because
I'm so jealous throughout the round that they are always
find their ball, always on the fare away, they always
find yeah, can put. There's never a drop drop two,
hit three situation. It's always just consistent, and I'm like, oh,
I want that.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
The thing about George as well, And George has two
massive number ones in a row. He just played at
Stage Coach with Landa del Ray, which was super cool.
Like his his career is really popping now. But when
you when he plays, there's nothing about his game that
you're blown away by because he does there's no big
loud pops, there's no four hundred yard drives, but nothing
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is ever off.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
See those are those are the guys too that you
get really frustrated with that. They are unassuming and you're like,
I wonder what he's shot and he's like a shot
of seventy three.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
We played in Vegas once he came and open for me.
I did the win for like three nights in a row,
and so the wind let us play on their course,
which is sickst course. After you played there, it's awesome,
righty fantastic and they only put like five rounds out
at once, so you're never behind people. So I'm like, George,
let's go play. And he's like the kindest you would
know he's a great golfer by how he acts because
he's so supportive, and we just keep scoring. At the end,
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I think I share like a eighty five or eighty six.
I said, what'd you do? He goes, uh, sixty eight,
like what the heck? And he said it's so modestly
it wasn't like talking about it. Ever, He's like, yeah,
sixty eight. So I have my mini driver, which also
she's an actress as well.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Mini driver, mini driver, Yes, great actress.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
So if I get one more decent round in, I
might play a little bit. I know you and I
haven't played yet. We've talked about it.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
We've been talking about schedule is.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
And also I don't want to go out and be bad,
to be embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Why I'm going to be bad. I told you that
I haven't been playing golf either. I've got five kids around.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Your Your athletic background is I don't know, I would
say quite different than mine. So you're bad is probably
no different your floor.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I look, I look like I can play, and then
all of a sudden you realize, you know, I might
have a few good holes in a row, and then
eventually I blow up. Maybe his I'm just a mental
uh think myself.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Thank you. I appreciate it, like you should.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Have caught me instead of saying, Katie Perry, but whatever
it's in, we're leaving it.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
You actually went there and if I knew that, You're no,
because you had to say that, I mean it was yeah, Yeah,
that was a terrible story.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I've never told it because I never want to be
that guy. But looking back, looking back, I wish that
was bad. I'm embarrassed by that, not by telling the
story about what happened. I was humiliated that day. I
don't get humiliated often.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I was bad.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I felt really, yeah, I was bad. That means, Okay,
here's what I have and I don't want I don't
want this to be humiliating for you.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Oh please let it.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
You don't know what it is, but you know.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I have no idea. But now you went down that path.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
So what I'm going to do as I go to
Dallas is I will Land will rehearse tonight and if
you watch the Awards show, that's awesome. Reba will be hosting.
I'll be on multiple times in the crowd, probably talking
with people. They kind of just tell me to go
do my thing, which is a fun place to be
because that means they trust me to just go improv.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Do you like that?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Like, no direction, just let me do my thing.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yes, Because you have enough relationships in this guy's why
that's what makes it simple for you. And it sounds conversational, correct.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
I yes, I I like no direction as long as
I know what the general direction is supposed to be.
Got it because I want I want to what the
expectation is. I want to do a good job. But
if they said, hey, you go do whatever you want,
that'd be awesome too. But yeah, I do. I like it.
They trust me. I think that's what I like.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I have the.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Producer in your ear screaming at you, never about you've got.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
No one minute.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
They in some shows my show on not Geo which
is on Amazon now called Breaking Bobby Bones, I had
a producer in my ear for safety reasons, okay, because
I was doing I got lit on Fire one show,
I got throw, so yes, there'd be And I did
the NFL Draft a couple of years ago. I had
a producer in my ear. And that's all for timing reasons.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Right, Because when I work with NBC on college football,
because we are on the field, so they're like, we've
got two minutes here, and we've got usually two to
three people out on the field at any given time,
so they're in my ear, especially if I go third
a thirty seconds cast third suck fifteen because and I've
literally said, yes, maybe the guy's name, prying a little
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bit about them, and they're like, we got to go
to commercial.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I'm not done with my thoughts exactly what finished? That's
the most annoying, Oh dude.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
And it's just it is disturbing and disruptive all at
the same time because you're trying to keep your train
of thought and it is such a difficult thing.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
To be hearing your countdown and then.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
You're trying not to speed up and sound rushed and
everything else.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
It's crazy. It's such a craft, mostly for you.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I'm annoyed when they make you go third, because that
means you're watching the other two guys that you're all professionals,
but when they start to go along, you're going, oh,
you're eating my time, my time.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
I'm counting down my time. For sure, it's happened.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I'm sure I've been the one that's gone first, and
there's thinking the same thing. But we all think the
same thing because when they go a little bit longer
and you're sitting there going, oh man, I got to
cut out like three sentences, I'm crunched. How am I
going to convey a point that sounds somewhat articulate, intelligent
and makes sense.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
It's so tough, first world problems. But so I go down.
I'll rehearse tonight and then tomorrow night, I am hosting
a gala for Brooks and Dune, very famous country do
if you don't know country music as big as it
gets in country music and Boots Guten Boogie, My Marie,
My Marie brand new Man. I am really good friends
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with the lead singer, Ronnie Dunn. Friends is that he's seventy,
so it's not like we're playing a bunch of pickleball
in the backyard. But love them like we'll have dinners together,
and which is crazy because like you talk about a
video game, like for me to be friends with the
lead singer Brooks had done Ronnie done, that's.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Crazy, right right?
Speaker 1 (41:22):
So I know them, and Ronnie gave me one of
his old jackets from the nineties. I was like, I
want to wear one of your jackets at the gala,
so he gave me one, and I went to their manager,
who I know very well. I said, Hey, when I
come out, I'm going to roast them like I know them.
I'm gonna roast and he says to me, yeah, he says,
you won't say anything worse than I say to them,
(41:44):
and I say, all right, cool, I just wanted you
to know, so it's not a surprise. He said, but
you know the line, And I said, no, I don't
know the line, right, like I generally don't know the
line to walk up to, like I go, I fall
over the lines and doesn't have to back up. I
know when to back up, but I don't know the line.
And he's like, just know the line. So I've been
in the joke riding. This last couple of weeks has
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been joke writing season for me again. When I was
touring a lot doing stand up, I live in it
to write notes. So I wrote a bunch of roast
jokes about Brooks and Done. But at the same time
I like to write about other people just to kind
of get me in. So I have a whole bunch
of Matt Castle roast jokes.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Now the question is going to be are you going
to be offended by any of this?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Not at all.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
I've probably heard most of them anyway. I just told
you I can hear the fans talking smack to me.
All the time.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
I hear you, all right, don't forget I'm your friend,
and I'm your.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Friend regardless of how this hurts.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I'm your friend, and you will not call me Katie
Perry when this is over.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I'm your friend.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yes, I would only roast somebody that I truly cared about, Okay,
And I've not practiced on anybody. The hard things about
doing one off shows are you can't practice the material.
So even with Brooks and Done, all the jokes are
written for them, I'll do it once. Sixty percent of
it'd be great, ten percent will be good. There'll be
a couple that just don't go over well. But I
have no idea what's going to work because I've never done.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Are you using the same principle of there's a line here? No?
Speaker 1 (43:08):
With you?
Speaker 2 (43:09):
No, I hope not. I want you to go so.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Far over Okay, Yeah, so I have.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I can't wait to write jokes for you next week.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Okay, here we go. Okay, so well, just you're sending
at a table, right, Matt Castle? Yeah, yeah, yeah, say
a couple of things. They played data, Every coach loved them,
every team gave him a chance. Every fan said, wait,
who's starting today. But they're also good ones too, right,
like Matt, Matt that Matt's a great guy. Matt's so nice.
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Even his interceptions apologized they did.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
You know what, I always looked at interceptions as just
another completion.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, it's nice even you. They're like, I'm sorry're gonna
stay positive. If you say Matt Castle into a mirror
three times, a backup quarterback appears behind you and asks
for a tryout.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
That's actually really good. That's really good.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
That's based on like bloody marriage. You guys have bloody
Mary spent around bloody married. We say, Matt Castle, I'd
like to try out. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yes,
Matt's the only guy who can meticulously break down an
NFL defense, but also gets really confused by TikTok? What's tiktow?
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Do I do?
Speaker 1 (44:16):
TikTok?
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Is I really am confused by TikTok? Just scroll?
Speaker 1 (44:20):
You know you've had a weird career when the words
Tom Brady got hurt are the reason you're famous. No, mate,
I don't feel bad, but I still it's like I'm
looking at you to make sure you're not You're not okay?
Speaker 3 (44:34):
All right, that's the funniest part about everybody is like,
how many seasons did you play?
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yeah? I want to remember you from the Patriots. Yeah,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Our podcast is a perfect combo. I bring the hot
takes and Matt brings the vague memory of starting in
the league when flip phones were still cool. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I used to phone too.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
These are better than others. Matt once played quarterback in Dallas, Buffalo,
and Kansas City. At this point, I think he was
just collecting zip codes, like he's playing Pokemon Go. So
if you knew that game, travel, yeah, I probably gott
to have it. When Matt talks about complex offenses on
the podcast, I nod like I get it, But honestly,
I'm still stuck on Wait, you never really started a
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single college game, ain't three more? I once told Matt
he should write a book about his NFL journey. He
said he's thinking about it. I offered the title, right place,
right time, right clipboard. All right, I got two more.
Matt didn't really play football. He just loitered near a
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football field until someone got injured.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
It was perfect, great, that's exactly right. Sometimes you got
to see your opportunity and season.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
One more one more as a quarterback, Matt was like
a fire extinguisher, only used an emergency.
Speaker 6 (45:53):
Okay, here's what I did, though, I got more.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
I wrote something for you to say to me. Oh,
I get to read here? Yeah, can you can read
something about me? Just so, just so I don't feel
as bad. This is me making guilt.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Jokes about me, But this is you making guilt jokes
about yourself.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah, just so, I also like I should feel bad too, Okay,
go ahead, okay.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Bobby Bones looks like a youth pastor who peaked when
he got verified on Instagram. Yes, Bobby's so awkward in person.
Even Siri tries to walk away.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
If insecurity were a sport, Bobby Bones would be the
Tom Brady of it.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
And I've seen that at the Commissioner Center. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
He acts like he doesn't care what people think, but
checks his podcast reviews like their e KG results.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yes, yes, yes, Bobby.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I'm starting to hate it. I started to get mad
at him, even though I wrote them.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
You wrote them, yeah, go ahead, Yeah, you just did
this to make me feel better.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
I love the fact that you wrote I feel guilty.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yeah, I wrote feel guilty.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yes, I don't want him to cry, I need to
hand him some major.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Okay, Bobby grew up so poor. He didn't have a
night light growing up. He just left his fridge open
and stared at hope.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Deep.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
That's super deep. One more go ahead.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Bobby hosts a national radio show rights best sellers, and
he wins Dancing with the Starts despite moving like a
Madden created player stuck on glitch mode.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Thank you, yes, yes, but now I don't feels bad
because you want to get some shots in on me too.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I took those shots for sure.
Thank you. Where's Katie Perry when you need exactly? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:48):
He was like hers was hurtful. Yeah, hers was like furnace.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
Hey, if that's my roast that I get to do,
comparatively speaking, then that roast that I saw with my
buddy Tom Brady, I'm totally fine with that.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Thank you, Thank you. I enjoyed every minute of that.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Thank you all for listening. Please share with your friends
that you listen to the show. Would help us so much.
He's Matt Castle on Bobby Villones. That's kick off Kevin
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lots to say, we got lots to say, what the back?
And we hope you say because we got.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Lost to say, yeah we got lost, just say here's
Bobby that.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
You know what I did, mister Castle is. I got
online and I said, hey, what would you always want
to ask a former NFL player? Because I think at
times you played, it's hard for you to know what
normal people want to know because you know everything there
is to know, like you know all the inside and outs, right,
And I guess I'm in it to a point where
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not like you are, but I talk about it. A
lot of friends have played. I travel to these organizations,
so I probably sometimes don't ask questions that I think
people want to know when it comes to the elementary
version of football. So I said, hey, send me your
questions you'd want to know from an NFL player, Okay,
and again these are going to be the most basic
elementary questions. But then I started to go, yeah, I'm
(01:16):
interested in this too, so I have like ten okay, okay,
Question number one, did you get nervous before every game.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I'd say yes to some degree, some more than others.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
For whatever reason.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It's usually the opponent, like when you were going up
against the Baltimore Ravens and Ray Lewis is sitting on
the other side and you knew that you had to
play at a level to be really good that day.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It added extra pressure.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
And it was always that feeling before the game. I
used to get those pre game jitters, and I hate
that feeling. But it's once you get out on the
field and you take that first hit or you get
through that first series that things start to slow down
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
But I always get nervous before the game.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
What would you tell people about nerves or how to
beat nerves.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
The biggest thing for me was honestly getting into my routine.
So when I would get to the stadium, I'd get
there early, do some stretching, then I'd go walk out
on the field, check where the clocks were on the field,
and then I'd have a little routine, just get a
little bit of sweat going. Even before this is pre pregame,
and for me, it just kind of started to set
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my mind up because it was the build up to
the game. To get to the actual game and start start.
That was always I had to be in the sequence
and had that process of getting my mind right, because
by the time the game came around, I was ready
to go. And so for me, that was what really
helped my nerves. But in terms of nerves in general,
it started even the day before because I'm one of
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those guys that would sometimes chase ghosts, right, what I have
they do this? Or if we have this called what
can I check to you to get to a better play?
And so you just are rehearsing it and visualizing it
in your mind the night before the game, and then
once you get to the stadium it becomes real.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I worked on American Idol for four seasons, and I
would work with the contestants a lot about nerves because
they would all go, how do you beat your nerves?
And I think the number one thing is you don't
really defeat your nerves. I think you get to a
place where you can understand your nerves, you can actually
be grateful. One of the things that I would talk
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about with them was there are only a few times
in life that you get to be nervous about something
that could possibly go right, because a lot of times
when you get nervous about something, it's a health scare,
it's a family but think about this, You have earned
the right to get to be nervous about something that
could possibly go right. And a little bit of that
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perspective shared helped. And I also think I would say
reps of doing it, because the more you do it
and it doesn't go right, the more you're not nervous
about it not going right because you realize you can
bounce back from it pretty easily. For sure, you do
it right, well, that's cool, but what about next time
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if it doesn't go right. How to really get rid
of nerves is for it not to go exactly right
and you still to be okay. And I would talk
to them a lot about that, and they really wouldn't
want to hear me. Go, if it doesn't go perfect,
you'll understand how you can climb out of these situations.
And they would go, yeah, but I wanted to go perfect.
I'm like, hey, here's the story. It ain't always going
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to go perfect. It's rarely going to go perfect. It
may never go perfect. So it was always reps and
understanding that you get to be nervous for something that
you have worked hard to do and that you love
to do. That was like the macro version of what
I would talk to performers about. But it is kind
of cool that you get to be nervous about something
you love to do.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And I think that was the turning point for me
in my career because a lot of times it was
the fear of failure, of letting your team down, of
being embarrassed by a performance because so many people watch
and there's so much attention, particularly on the quarterback position,
because you're running the show out there. And so the
switch change for me was I've got to go do
this today because this is my job versus I love
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that I get this opportunity.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
This is a privilege to go out there.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
And so I changed that fear into more of I
love the fact that I get to go play with
my guys. We were ready for this, and so it
came more love based and just an appreciation for what
I got to do for a living. And it took
that fear away from just making that mistake.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Again.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
You still feel awful when you have it, but like
you said, I was able to bounce back a lot
quicker and not let that resonate for a long period
of time because of that mindset.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Did you ever go to a sports psychologist and were
they as in play then as they are now?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I did, and it was really going from it was
everybody had a sports psychologist available to them for the
organizations that I played for, including New England, and I
would talk to them a little bit and they would
come into the they would be available after practice and
stuff like that. And early on in my career when
I was just trying to hang on and make it,
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and year and year out was a grind because you
really were on a year to year contry. But then
when I went to New England in Kansas City, and
I arrived when I stepped in for Brady that year,
and then I went to Kansas City and it was
a completely different organization, new coaching staff, how things operated
from a day to day standpoint, and we struggled.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
We won four games that first year that I was there.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So I started to feel that pressure and I knew
that I needed someone to help me filter through these
feelings and also that anxiety of needing to be the guy,
and so I went and met this guy in his
name I believe is Sal Miller, and he wrote a.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Book that I read on my own.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
I thought this would be great to meet him, and
my wife actually hooked got in contact with him, hooked
him up and so we did a few sessions and
it was just giving you a different perspective on what
you get to do. And he describes this idea of
it's the fight or flight and.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
The animal kingdom.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
You'd look at the animal kingdom and you say, you know,
you've got your deer and certain certain animals like that
that run for their life, they're scared of every sound.
And then you've got this example would be a lion
that's fierce, that's tough, that is going to attack the problem,
or everybody's fearful of them. So take on that mindset.
And so it was just a different perspective to look
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at things. And I think it helped in many ways
because that next year, in twenty ten, was the first
year I got voted into the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
So there's there.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You definitely could see some correlation between success and mindset.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Guys in the locker room are like, why is Castle
aways growling? No, he's a lion. I let them do
a thing. I question two, how bad does it actually
hurt to get tackled by a linebacker.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Depends on how they hit you.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Now, I think that you're more susceptible as a quarterback
to get hit hard because you're exposed in when you're throwing,
and everything that you have to do is you kind
of keep your eyes downfield, step into your throat, and
so when they're a blitzing linebacker, they come untouched and
they light you up in the chest. I mean it
cannot I've had the breath knocked out of me. I
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felt like I broke my chin, and I've had a
concussion all from the pocket, and so those those hurt
for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Sometimes when you.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Get hit in the back and you get that little whiplash,
it's not until the next day you really feel that.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
But then there's just different areas.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I used to get stepped on on the foot from
a big linebacker or cleaned in the shin. I got
a hip pointer one time, Oh man, that hurts like hell.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
See a hit pointer, much like turf toe, does not
feel like it would hurt. However, both really painful, really painful.
They should name them something like mean or like the
hip jugguler has been ripped out. You know seriously, because again,
those are very painful injuries, but they sound like soft
Disney terms.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I got hit in my tailbone once so hard because
I was took off running and I was trying to
dodge a defender downfield to kind of cut back in.
Didn't see a defensive lineman coming, and he put his
face mask on my tailbone. And we don't wear tailbones
and hip pads like the kids do. Dude, I thought
he broke my tailbump. I could hardly walk for like
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four days. It was brutal.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Weird question about getting hit If it's earlier in the game,
your adrenaline's pumping, do the hits not hurt as bad
solely because the adrenaline is pumping.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I would agree with that, because every game that you
play in now, the older you get and the more
you have an understanding for what's about to take place,
you're adrenaline. You can calm it down a little bit,
but you have adrenaline every time you step on that field,
and so particularly early on, you might get hit and
you just hop back up and you're like, Okay.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
That was a really good hit.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
But you're able to pop up and kind of put
it in the back of your mind. As the game
wears on and things calm themselves down, the game slows
down a little bit for you. Then you start to
feel a little bit more. And again it all depends
on how your hit, where your hit, all those different
aspects that come into play.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Question three. Do they serve food at halftime?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
They do, well, not really food, but they've got you know,
your own crustables. They've got oranges, they've got protein bars,
milkshake or not really milkshakes, I'd say protein shakes, and
they have just kind of snack food more so than
actual food.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
So I more refueling than it is like a meal.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
One hundred percent, because any any guy will tell you,
and you've seen these guys out there, particularly offensive line
that'll throw down a protein shake or something too much
and you just see him barfing all over the field.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
It's so nasty.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
That's probably why they're doing that then, because they went
so hard at it. Oh yeah, like in the middle,
just shoved one down.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I had a buddy Ryan Khalil I think, I mean
Ryan Lilja, I think it was that was literally puking
in his three point stance while while I'm giving the
cadence and I'm like, bro, are you okay? Just losing
his lunch out there? It was so nasty.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Better that than flu, Better that than flu.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I actually had handfoot in mouth one time. I got
it from my kids, and it.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Was I'm not familiar with what handfoot in mouth.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I wasn't either.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
I think it's a Southern thing, because you know, growing
up it was chicken pox. Handfoot in mouth is this
thing that when you say when I say mouth, you
get like blisters all over your tongue, down your throat
and then your hands and feet blister.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Look it up. I'm so because I am from the
South and I never had it.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I never heard of it.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
So my kids come home and the doctor diagnosed them
with handfoot and mouth, and I was like, what the
hell is this? And so I even this is before COVID.
I'm wearing a mask around the house, try not to
get it.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
I'm two weeks left in preseason. So then I go
and we're playing a preseason game against the Raiders and
I'm starting to get the chills.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I don't feel good and we had the night game.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
So I go in, I take a tour it all shot,
and I go and I have to start that game.
Well that night, as I'm going home, now you can
start to see these little dots on my hand.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I'm going, oh no.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
I go in the next day, my throats sore all
these things, and I tell the doctor. I was like,
my kids had hand, foot and mouth like two weeks ago.
I think I might have it because I'm starting to
get little red dots right here. He's like, no, adults,
it's really in adults. And he's like, you probably have bedbugs.
Next morning, can't swallow blisters everywhere. Now my hands are
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getting blisters all over. I've got like the Google search
engine worst case scenario of handfoot in mouth.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, you're about to die of cancer or something, or
cas got fever or something.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
And he's like, yeah, you've got hand and foot in mouth.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Finally he gives me something. WHOA, I give it to
three of my linemen and one of my deals. No way,
because they didn't let me go home.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
And also does it sound real?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
It doesn't sound real. It was a full outbreak on
the team because of me and my kids. So I
brought and I told them, hey, I've got handfoot in mouth.
Do you want me to come in. They're like, well,
you're starting this week in the last preseason game, why
don't you come out to practice.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I looked.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I looked like a hospital patient. I had full sleeves on,
it's ninety eight degrees. I'm wearing gloves on both hands,
trying to get through it, and I still passed it
on to these days.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
They were so pissed off at me.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
That's not your fault because you didn't know. And the
team was like, you need to still show up in practice.
That's a while.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I felt awful.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
It's a common, highly contagious viral illness that affects that
affects mostly infants and young children, rarely adults. That's what's crazy. Fever,
sore throat, painful mouth, sores, small red spots that blister, skin,
rash on hands, feet, and sometimes buttocks or legs.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Thank god, I didn't get on the buttocks, but I
did lose my fingernails.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
And there's no specific treatment, no meaning, there isn't something
you can put on to make it go away because
it's a virus. Just rest, hydration, and it says, whatever
you do, don't go into the game.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Yeah, I look like wookie okay for something about Mary
it was brutal bro So yeah, so that's that's something
that I had got and foot.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Mouth was crazy.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Okay. Next up, this is number four seven. You get
to keep your uniforms.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Actually have to buy your jerseys and your helmets at
the end of season.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You have the option to do that every year.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Can you buy it during the season just to get
a new one? What if you trade jerseys with somebody.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
You know they're probably is that factor now where.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
They have as much all they will charge the player
for trading jerseys with another player.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Did that happen as much when you played.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
No, It started at the tail end probably of my career,
where it became something that you saw players go out
and consistently do it, where they're seeking out a particular
player and trading jerseys. It wasn't as popular when I
first came in the league, or even through the mid
mid part of my career, but it really started to
hit its stride later on.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Were there some players and don't mention any names that
you did not like to be on the same team with.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
You did not like one percent, one hundred percent, And
a lot of that comes down to we're number one?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Are you a good teammate? Number two? Do I respect you?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Do you come out do your job and at the
same time give great effort day in and day out.
Are you one of those guys that is a problem
or a cancer in the locker room that not only
do you have a beef with whatever is going on.
I'm fine if you're pissed off with a coach, go
do it behind closed doors.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Don't call him out in front of the entire team.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Or do you get in the locker room in one
of these guys that just bitch and complain and you
bring those other guys along with you, Because I've had
veterans that should know better that just for whatever reason,
they're discontent, they're upset, whether it's scheme, whether it's coaching,
however it might be. And then they go and rally
the troops around this negative energy and feed into these
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young guys the wrong ideals about what it means to
be a professional and a good teammate.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
How does a guy who doesn't put in the effort,
doesn't put in the work end up making it to
such an elite level. Is it just because he's such
an athlete?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Naturally that's a lot of I mean a lot of
times you overlook character for your abilities. And that's what
you see a lot of times when you look throughout
the league and you'll see these guys get in trouble
or some of these issues that you have, but it
will be swept under the rug and looked at differently
because on Sundays they show up and they'll play their
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butt off, right, and so you you do like those
guys in a particular sense when you're competing. But when
you have to go through an entire season and it's
drama filled and it's this, that and the other, it
becomes taxing and it wears on you.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I would imagine when you aren't winning, that's a lot
harder to be around.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
When you're winning, you know, your coffee tastes a little
bit better in the morning, the breakfast bagels, Oh gosh,
this tastes.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Better when you're losing.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Everybody feels that because there's so much pressure on every organization,
every individual, every coach, year in and year out. And
when you're on a skid man, you can feel it
day in and day out, and it's just this weird
environment when you come in because everybody's just in a
bad mood. You've probably been around teammates yourself though that
have or people that you've worked with that you go,
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I thought this guy.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Was gonna be great, but they are.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And you work in an industry, You work in an
industry that's probably has a lot of egos and everything
else that is very similar to what we do.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, Katy Perry was the worst, seriously, the worst, the
literal worst.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
In what in what manner just as a human person,
how she treated people.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yes, yeah, and it was, but she was the highest paid,
and she was the jewel of that American Idol four
seasons that I was on. There was one time, I've
never told this story. There was one time, and I
I love to understand, I'm fifth string on that show,
like I know my role right, and they were paying
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me seven figures, but it wasn't close to the seven figures.
They were paying eight figures they were paying everybody else.
Because Luke Bryan a plus guy. I love him, my friend,
he's been on this show. He was making ten million plus.
Lionel Richie, greatest dude ever, does not have to be
great because he is a legend Lionel Richie. I wish
(18:17):
I were related to him. The kindest guy. Ryan Seacrest,
who all those people made over Ten and Secrets, was
so great to me. Even though they brought me in
not to replace him. They brought me in for if
he wasn't able to get back. Because he was doing
Live with Kelly and Ryan in New York. We were
shooting a lot in LA so they had me in
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to mentor the contestants. But if he couldn't get back,
they would use me in certain places that he would
normally use. I haven't hosted a show once when he
was sick, and I could see that somebody with less
security would go, I don't like a junior varsity version
of me on this show. I was never a threat
to him. I didn't feel like I was a threat
to him, and he didn't feel that way too. In
(18:59):
the greatest way. There were times where Ryan would come
up to me to be fully transparent and go, hey,
let's talk for a minute. But yeah, what's up? He goes, Hey,
I know you didn't have much money growing up. I
know you have money, Like, do you have people that
are taking care of you, watching out for you? Because
this is what happened with me. He did not have
to do stuffs. Yeah, because Ryan's fewyears older than I am.
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And even when I changed the agencies, like I hit
up Ryan and I said, hey, what do you think?
He was so generous. He was also like on a
yacht and cans, but he was so generous with it.
And so with Katie, I'll give you one specific example
once she was late everywhere all the time. I also
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never thought that I was as big or as important
as them on that show because I wasn't paid, probably
the same way in a football locker room where the
people that make all the money they get a lot
of the attention, a lot of the resources. We were
in Hawaii, I hadn't told the story. I think I'm
just a little tired, so like I'm triggered by everything.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yes, I love it when you're triggered.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
So we were in Hawaii and every year we would
go out to the Disney resort because Disney owned ABC,
which had Idol on it, so we all worked for Disney.
So we would go out and shoot for like a
week because a big part of that season before the
Top ten or twelve was done at that resort. Wanted
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to promote the resort too. It gave it like a
Hawaii vibe. And we were doing a bit where they
buried me in the sand and my head was the
only thing popping out of the sand. So they had
dug this hole and they were like, Okay, get in,
and it was some sort of like promo. I don't
even know why she did this, because it wasn't like
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Katie and I had a lot of interaction because most
people were like, don't like, she doesn't want talk to anybody,
to leave her alone. I was like, fine, by me,
all good. And I remember being in the sand with
my head just poking out, and she comes up to
me and she starts screaming, you'll never be Ryan. You're
never going to be Ryan.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Secret, no way.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
And I think it's a joke at first, and I'm
like yeah, but also I don't have any arms or legs.
It's literally just my head. I can't even walk. My
head's out of the sand. She's like, you'll never be him.
Stop trying to be him. And then I realized she's
not kidding. But I don't know why, because I did
nothing to make her mad. I was already told just
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let her do her thing. You know, sometimes she'd show
hours late, whatever, so I never try to be friends
with her. But somebody, and I will not say who,
somebody prominent, because even after that, I got really thick
skin kind of I don't care.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
That would bug me big time.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
It bugged somebody else on the show so bad they
pulled her whole team aside and was like that cannot happen.
And nobody told Katie anything on that show, but they
were like, that cannot happen. But yeah, she was.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I was not there.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
There was no reason to do that. But she was
screaming at me. She wouldn't been having a bad day.
I don't know, but if you're having the worst day,
that's the thing. I hear you.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Why a human like that that works on the same
show as you.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
That's awful. It was awful. It was a really bad,
it speaks really bad experience for me. I I was
just happy that somebody stuck up for me because I
wasn't going to do it. I didn't feel like I
needed to do it because I'll just take it. It's fine,
You're not gonna hurt me.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
I'm fine.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
But somebody did, Somebody prominent did, and because they saw
what was happening. So it also made me feel like
I wasn't crazy right, that I wasn't dreaming this scenario.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Am I blacking out? Yeah at me?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, that's a bad one. That's probably my worst experience
ever in I would say Hollywood or TV because mostly
everybody's really respectful and LA gets the wrap of like
people are weird, and they are, but so, I mean,
anybody creative is weird, or any athlete. You got to
be driven to a point where you got to have
a screw loose, right. You just hope it's the right screw. Yeah,
its a bad one. So that was That's like an
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example of that. But we got you know what, got
along fine. I had no choice, been fired. I had
to get along.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
I would not be able to get along with a
person like that. Like I hold grudges for a little while.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
It takes me some time to get over, especially when
like that's an intentional trying.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
To scar you.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I just didn't get your words and hurt you so
bad in front of other people too.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Everybody was around that. That's the weirdest person, A highre crew, cameras, everybody. Yeah,
I was a little embarrassed. Yeah, I was all embarrassed. Okay,
next question, Okay, that was amazing. Yeah, that whole thing such.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It wasn't amazing, It was awful actually.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, but also amazing because I name dropped so good.
H two questions. Can you hear the crowd during the
game and can you hear specific people yelling during the game?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Okay, the crowd, you can always hear to a certain extent,
particularly when.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
You're on the road.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
The roar of the crowd is so much louder when
you're on the offensive side of the ball because they're
getting hype, they're trying to trying to support the defense.
So it is can be deafening at times in particular stadiums,
and so you've your concentration level has to go so
much further up because we're on silent count. You're trying
to communicate it a much higher decimal. And then when
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you it's usually on the road, but you can hear,
guys when you come over and sit on the sideline
where you're so close to the fans right there that
there's always somebody you know, a little bit chirpy some
of it to support. Most of the time, if they're
getting really chirpy. You know it's Castle, I hope you
break your leg. You suck Castle, this, that and the other.
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You know, you hear them, You're not paying attention to it.
It's almost comical because it's you one series, it's somebody
else the next series. So they're just they're waiting for
a response, and the worst thing you can do. These
guys will sometimes you see it all the time, they
respond to them, which.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
NBA players especial.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Oh yeah, and it just adds so much fuel to
the fire.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
And then you're just I was like, why are you
escalating this and having a conversation with somebody that is
just trying to get that type of response and incite
some kind of emotional response from you to just get
out of your game and get into a bad headspace.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I just never responded to it.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
I think the parallel for me would be responding to
the comments when I know somebody is just trying to
get at me over and over and over again, and
I'm just like, nope, nope, nope, no, I screw it
and I go in and then they just won, like
they just won.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
See That's why I never had social media when I played,
because I'd always sit there and these guys right after
the game would go on and look at their social
media and they're just getting murdered based on our performance.
And it could be their fault. It could be their fault.
But I was like, why are you subjecting yourself to
this type of criticism because we're all human. You could
be the most tough skinned human being ever, but at
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some point you have a breaking point, and that for me,
it just would take away from what I need to
focus on because I'd get I'd get invested like.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
You and be like, all right, this is I'm going.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
To go off. It just takes a trick day like
I had today for me to just go in on somebody.
But it's why that pickleball thing, you know, the big
battle was going to happen till the guy chumped out
like a little so yeah, yeah, how social media does
that to me? I was watching Bennie Blanco talk, he's
a big record producer, and he said, I don't read
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the comments, and most times when people say that, I
don't believe them and I try not to, but I
still do sometimes. And he said, I don't read the
comments because I don't need validation, Like I know what
I'm doing. I was like, that's so powerful. It is
so every time I click down, I go, do I
need the validation? Why am I looking right now? And
that clip of Bennie Blanco saying that.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Reminds you not to try?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Yeah, it helped me. Yeah, yeah, it helped me to
not even put myself in a position to be triggered.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Doug Flutie, my rookie year, was the one that said
there was this awesome article that came out in the
Boston Globe about Flutie, his career, what he's been through,
all these different things, And I said, I asked him.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I said, Doug, have you read this article?
Speaker 3 (27:03):
It's really well written art really highlights you everything from
what you did on the field to what you do
off the field with your charity, all these things.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
He's like, no, I never read it. I was like,
but this is a positive one.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
He's like, I don't read positive or negative because every
time I read something, it creates an emotional response in me.
And I just found like, I'm better off, good, badter,
indifferent if I just don't read it in that way.
I don't get too high, don't get too low, And
it's not gonna impact me whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
That's great. Yeah, it was great. It was a great
piece of advice.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Last question, did you get mad when you were in
a video game and your rating was low?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
No?
Speaker 3 (27:45):
You know that's really it's so interesting now, right, these
guys will go in and make a case for themselves
about their rating. And I really didn't play that many
video games. It was sparingly that you'd catch me playing
a video game, and so I didn't really care that much.
Now if I was a little insulted every now and
then when you're going you're kind of wait, my passer
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rated thirty one eighty, like da or seventy?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
What happened?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I know I had a little bit of down year,
but you guys didn't take taking a consideration the entire
aspect of our offensive unit here. But so yes, you
get maybe a little offenite. But I never got worked
up over a video game for goodness sakes. I just
always was one of those guys that how cool is
it growing up playing video games with my brothers and
playing with all these guys that I'm actually in a
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video game playing in the NFL again. It's one of
those wow moments that you realize dude, this is cool.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I'm in a video game.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
That is cool. Yeah, I head off to Dallas tonight
because I'm going to do the ACMs on third Let's Gold,
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which you're on Amazon Prime, which, by the way, a
little plug have especially on Amazon Prime. Right now. That
is basically about the history of the award show. I'm
interviewing Lanny Wilson, Keith, Thurban Brooks and done and just
talking about the history of it. But what's cool is no,
they Amazon didn't ask us to do it. We just
literally grab cameras and went and shot this thing and
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then said we made this, and they said, oh, okay, yeah,
we like to have it. No way, I couldn't believe
it either.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Brilliant.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
That's the type of business mind that every person needs.
But that's because you're also a grinder.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
The problem. Yeah, I would agree with that. I'm on
grinder a lot. But the the what I would warn
about that is ninety six percent of the time it's
a no. And I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Oh really, you've done that like bits like that before,
absolutely tried to sell them.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
People generally don't want stuff from me because they look
at me and go, I need that guy. But just
like with anything else I've ever done, if I can
just get in, I can absolutely sell and then prove
my value. And so that's what we did. As soon
as I was put on the ACMs, and I've been
on that show the last three years, I had to
have a way to like email somebody like I know
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somebody to email basically, and so we didn't tell anybody
we were doing it, and so we should. We shot it,
read edited it. My buddy Mike wrote a bunch of
the historical stuff called in Favors for Friends and said, hey,
can we interview you? Yeah, and it's on Amazon right
now because we spent a bunch of time just it. Honestly,
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it probably in our mind it was going to be
a note and then we were just going to have
this product that we were just going to put out
on the internet. But yeah, no, I'm a big like
you talked about earlier, bet on yourself guy, because people
don't know about the nos. I don't care about that,
but people will see all the yeses and go, man,
you really got it made. And you're like, if you
had any idea, if you.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
Have any idea, this on my own hoping this is
the result that would happen.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So this one works. So you can check it out
on Amazon Prime and watch a search for this just now.
I don't do that, just search for Bobby Bones. I
played golf this past weekend. It was kind of a
work thing. I haven't really played golf much at all recently.
I used to play a lot. I mean this set
that we're on now is basically a golf simulator that
we turned into a set because I was really in
a golf and I haven't used it as a golf
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simulator and probably a year year and a half. I
tore my rotator cuff, messed up my labor. I'm a
little bit so I was on the DL for like
six months, but was just ready to play golf again,
so when it was healthy. It turns out playing golf
takes a long time.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
It does.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
It's like four hour and I don't have four hours anymore.
So I kind of stopped playing and put my energy
into pickleball. Love play pickleball. Can do it in an
hour and get a workout in, but I wouldn't play
golf this past week. I've never had a hole in
one you no, never, And I hit a ball I
have bad vision. My right eye doesn't work. It has
eight percent vision. My left eye were really bad. Yeah,
it sucks my whole life. You should wear an eyepach.
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I did wear an eyepatch as a kid. It got
beat up so many times. I stopped wearing it because
I hate to get beat up.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Sorry, I didn't mean to bring him.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
No, No, that's it. I went across the middle and I.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Suck it taken out.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I did wear an eyepatch. It sucked because they used
to call me a little pirate and beat the crap
out of me. Regardless I can't see.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I got my left eyes pretty good. I wore glasses,
were big, thick rimmed glasses. And I hit a ball
on a par three. It's like a one fifty five
one sixty uphill and I'm playing with three guys and
I hit it. And a lot of times I need
my friends to be my seeing eye dogs, not all
the time, because if I happen to hit it in
the middle and the sky is in the perfect I
can see the ball. But a lot of times I can't,
So I need seeing eye dogs with me. I hit
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a ball, it's a perfect clip, perfect click. Yes, you're like,
oh man, I felt good. I say, can you guys
see it? And all three of them go and they
all start going, oh my god, jumping up and down.
No way, and I can't but I can't see anything.
And they're all going, oh, they're jumping up and down,
and I'm thinking, either they talked about this before and
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it's the most elaborate prank ever, but they didn't really
know each other. It was a work thing, so we
were all brought together, so they have the camaraderie to
really like, okay, we're gonna break Bobby.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
So you're saying there's a chance. At that point, you're going, okay,
I'm putting this together.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
The problem too is it went over a hill. So
they're jumping up and down and I'm like, you guys,
you guys think that went in And they're like, there
was great chance it was rolling right at the hole,
and so like all right, we get up and we're
driving up the hill and I'm like, this might have
been my first ever hole in one about a couple close,
a couple closest, but net never in. And we get
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up and I don't, I don't. I don't see the
ball anywhere, and I get and I roll up beside it.
When you hit that one part of the hill, I
see the ball like two feet oh I know. And
it took us to get to the top of it
because they also lost it because right where the pin
was is where the hill hit right. The ball mark
was like three feet right in front of the hole.
It either hit the pin and dinked off or just
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rolled right to the side of it. But it's pretty cool.
It's pretty cool one, but two is hilarious that I
had to rely on them to all start jumping up
and down for me, even believe it was gonna be.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
For you kept your head down, you know, like a
good golfer. I kept my head down, your head down,
came through. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna get back.
I'm gonna play golf mildly. But when I play and
I play halfway decent, I go maybe I get a
little better.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
You know what I ordered. I ordered a mini driver.
Have you seen those?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I've used one. My buddy has one.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
I just ordered one. It's on my front portrait. Now
I haven't used it yet.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
You're pretty sweet.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
It got here as we were gonna do the show.
Now I'm leaving to go to Dallas right after this.
I can't use it. When I get back in Dallas,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Are you stoked about that?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
I don't know. You don't know, because if I go
out and play, I want everybody to know. I'm not
a good golfer. I think I shot at eighty three, Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
So I'm not not bad. By the way.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
For me, it's really good. I've never broken eighty. I've
hit eighty a couple times. But I'm not a great golfer.
So I'm not going wow, look at because I have
friends that are great golfers. My friend Ben Rector, Platinum
award artist. Uh, it's seventy four. My friend George Berge
two number ones in all country music, played at University
of Texas.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Right, Oh, so he's elite.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yes, I hate playing with guys.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
I love playing with him, but I hate it because
I'm so jealous throughout the round that they are always
find their ball, always on the fare away, they always
find yeah, can put. There's never a drop drop two,
hit three situation. It's always just consistent, and I'm like, oh,
I want that.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
The thing about George as well, And George has two
massive number ones in a row. He just played at
Stage Coach with Landa del Ray, which was super cool.
Like his his career is really popping now. But when
you when he plays, there's nothing about his game that
you're blown away by because he does there's no big
loud pops, there's no four hundred yard drives, but nothing
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is ever off.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
See those are those are the guys too that you
get really frustrated with that. They are unassuming and you're like,
I wonder what he's shot and he's like a shot
of seventy three.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
We played in Vegas once he came and open for me.
I did the win for like three nights in a row,
and so the wind let us play on their course,
which is sickst course. After you played there, it's awesome,
righty fantastic and they only put like five rounds out
at once, so you're never behind people. So I'm like, George,
let's go play. And he's like the kindest you would
know he's a great golfer by how he acts because
he's so supportive, and we just keep scoring. At the end,
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I think I share like a eighty five or eighty six.
I said, what'd you do? He goes, uh, sixty eight,
like what the heck? And he said it's so modestly
it wasn't like talking about it. Ever, He's like, yeah,
sixty eight. So I have my mini driver, which also
she's an actress as well.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Mini driver, mini driver, Yes, great actress.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
So if I get one more decent round in, I
might play a little bit. I know you and I
haven't played yet. We've talked about it.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
We've been talking about schedule is.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
And also I don't want to go out and be bad,
to be embarrassed.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Why I'm going to be bad. I told you that
I haven't been playing golf either. I've got five kids around.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Your Your athletic background is I don't know, I would
say quite different than mine. So you're bad is probably
no different your floor.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
I look, I look like I can play, and then
all of a sudden you realize, you know, I might
have a few good holes in a row, and then
eventually I blow up. Maybe his I'm just a mental
uh think myself.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Thank you. I appreciate it, like you should.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Have caught me instead of saying, Katie Perry, but whatever
it's in, we're leaving it.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
You actually went there and if I knew that, You're no,
because you had to say that, I mean it was yeah, Yeah,
that was a terrible story.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I've never told it because I never want to be
that guy. But looking back, looking back, I wish that
was bad. I'm embarrassed by that, not by telling the
story about what happened. I was humiliated that day. I
don't get humiliated often.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
I was bad.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I felt really, yeah, I was bad. That means, Okay,
here's what I have and I don't want I don't
want this to be humiliating for you.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Oh please let it.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
You don't know what it is, but you know.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I have no idea. But now you went down that path.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
So what I'm going to do as I go to
Dallas is I will Land will rehearse tonight and if
you watch the Awards show, that's awesome. Reba will be hosting.
I'll be on multiple times in the crowd, probably talking
with people. They kind of just tell me to go
do my thing, which is a fun place to be
because that means they trust me to just go improv.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Do you like that?
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Like, no direction, just let me do my thing.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yes, Because you have enough relationships in this guy's why
that's what makes it simple for you. And it sounds conversational, correct.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
I yes, I I like no direction as long as
I know what the general direction is supposed to be.
Got it because I want I want to what the
expectation is. I want to do a good job. But
if they said, hey, you go do whatever you want,
that'd be awesome too. But yeah, I do. I like it.
They trust me. I think that's what I like.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I have the.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Producer in your ear screaming at you, never about you've got.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
No one minute.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
They in some shows my show on not Geo which
is on Amazon now called Breaking Bobby Bones, I had
a producer in my ear for safety reasons, okay, because
I was doing I got lit on Fire one show,
I got throw, so yes, there'd be And I did
the NFL Draft a couple of years ago. I had
a producer in my ear. And that's all for timing reasons.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
Right, Because when I work with NBC on college football,
because we are on the field, so they're like, we've
got two minutes here, and we've got usually two to
three people out on the field at any given time,
so they're in my ear, especially if I go third
a thirty seconds cast third suck fifteen because and I've
literally said, yes, maybe the guy's name, prying a little
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bit about them, and they're like, we got to go
to commercial.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I'm not done with my thoughts exactly what finished? That's
the most annoying, Oh dude.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
And it's just it is disturbing and disruptive all at
the same time because you're trying to keep your train
of thought and it is such a difficult thing.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
To be hearing your countdown and then.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
You're trying not to speed up and sound rushed and
everything else.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
It's crazy. It's such a craft, mostly for you.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I'm annoyed when they make you go third, because that
means you're watching the other two guys that you're all professionals,
but when they start to go along, you're going, oh,
you're eating my time, my time.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
I'm counting down my time. For sure, it's happened.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I'm sure I've been the one that's gone first, and
there's thinking the same thing. But we all think the
same thing because when they go a little bit longer
and you're sitting there going, oh man, I got to
cut out like three sentences, I'm crunched. How am I
going to convey a point that sounds somewhat articulate, intelligent
and makes sense.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
It's so tough, first world problems. But so I go down.
I'll rehearse tonight and then tomorrow night, I am hosting
a gala for Brooks and Dune, very famous country do
if you don't know country music as big as it
gets in country music and Boots Guten Boogie, My Marie,
My Marie brand new Man. I am really good friends
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with the lead singer, Ronnie Dunn. Friends is that he's seventy,
so it's not like we're playing a bunch of pickleball
in the backyard. But love them like we'll have dinners together,
and which is crazy because like you talk about a
video game, like for me to be friends with the
lead singer Brooks had done Ronnie done, that's.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Crazy, right right?
Speaker 1 (41:22):
So I know them, and Ronnie gave me one of
his old jackets from the nineties. I was like, I
want to wear one of your jackets at the gala,
so he gave me one, and I went to their manager,
who I know very well. I said, Hey, when I
come out, I'm going to roast them like I know them.
I'm gonna roast and he says to me, yeah, he says,
you won't say anything worse than I say to them,
(41:44):
and I say, all right, cool, I just wanted you
to know, so it's not a surprise. He said, but
you know the line, And I said, no, I don't
know the line, right, like I generally don't know the
line to walk up to, like I go, I fall
over the lines and doesn't have to back up. I
know when to back up, but I don't know the line.
And he's like, just know the line. So I've been
in the joke riding. This last couple of weeks has
(42:05):
been joke writing season for me again. When I was
touring a lot doing stand up, I live in it
to write notes. So I wrote a bunch of roast
jokes about Brooks and Done. But at the same time
I like to write about other people just to kind
of get me in. So I have a whole bunch
of Matt Castle roast jokes.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Now the question is going to be are you going
to be offended by any of this?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Not at all.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
I've probably heard most of them anyway. I just told
you I can hear the fans talking smack to me.
All the time.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
I hear you, all right, don't forget I'm your friend,
and I'm your.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Friend regardless of how this hurts.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
I'm your friend, and you will not call me Katie
Perry when this is over.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I'm your friend.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Yes, I would only roast somebody that I truly cared about, Okay,
And I've not practiced on anybody. The hard things about
doing one off shows are you can't practice the material.
So even with Brooks and Done, all the jokes are
written for them, I'll do it once. Sixty percent of
it'd be great, ten percent will be good. There'll be
a couple that just don't go over well. But I
have no idea what's going to work because I've never done.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Are you using the same principle of there's a line here? No?
Speaker 1 (43:08):
With you?
Speaker 2 (43:09):
No, I hope not. I want you to go so.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Far over Okay, Yeah, so I have.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
I can't wait to write jokes for you next week.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Okay, here we go. Okay, so well, just you're sending
at a table, right, Matt Castle? Yeah, yeah, yeah, say
a couple of things. They played data, Every coach loved them,
every team gave him a chance. Every fan said, wait,
who's starting today. But they're also good ones too, right,
like Matt, Matt that Matt's a great guy. Matt's so nice.
(43:37):
Even his interceptions apologized they did.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
You know what, I always looked at interceptions as just
another completion.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yeah, it's nice even you. They're like, I'm sorry're gonna
stay positive. If you say Matt Castle into a mirror
three times, a backup quarterback appears behind you and asks
for a tryout.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
That's actually really good. That's really good.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
That's based on like bloody marriage. You guys have bloody
Mary spent around bloody married. We say, Matt Castle, I'd
like to try out. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Yes,
Matt's the only guy who can meticulously break down an
NFL defense, but also gets really confused by TikTok? What's tiktow?
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Do I do?
Speaker 1 (44:16):
TikTok?
Speaker 2 (44:17):
Is I really am confused by TikTok? Just scroll?
Speaker 1 (44:20):
You know you've had a weird career when the words
Tom Brady got hurt are the reason you're famous. No, mate,
I don't feel bad, but I still it's like I'm
looking at you to make sure you're not You're not okay?
Speaker 3 (44:34):
All right, that's the funniest part about everybody is like,
how many seasons did you play?
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yeah? I want to remember you from the Patriots. Yeah,
I get it.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Our podcast is a perfect combo. I bring the hot
takes and Matt brings the vague memory of starting in
the league when flip phones were still cool. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
I used to phone too.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
These are better than others. Matt once played quarterback in Dallas, Buffalo,
and Kansas City. At this point, I think he was
just collecting zip codes, like he's playing Pokemon Go. So
if you knew that game, travel, yeah, I probably gott
to have it. When Matt talks about complex offenses on
the podcast, I nod like I get it, But honestly,
I'm still stuck on Wait, you never really started a
(45:16):
single college game, ain't three more? I once told Matt
he should write a book about his NFL journey. He
said he's thinking about it. I offered the title, right place,
right time, right clipboard. All right, I got two more.
Matt didn't really play football. He just loitered near a
(45:37):
football field until someone got injured.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
It was perfect, great, that's exactly right. Sometimes you got
to see your opportunity and season.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
One more one more as a quarterback, Matt was like
a fire extinguisher, only used an emergency.
Speaker 6 (45:53):
Okay, here's what I did, though, I got more.
Speaker 1 (46:03):
I wrote something for you to say to me. Oh,
I get to read here? Yeah, can you can read
something about me? Just so, just so I don't feel
as bad. This is me making guilt.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Jokes about me, But this is you making guilt jokes
about yourself.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah, just so, I also like I should feel bad too, Okay,
go ahead, okay.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Bobby Bones looks like a youth pastor who peaked when
he got verified on Instagram. Yes, Bobby's so awkward in person.
Even Siri tries to walk away.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (46:32):
If insecurity were a sport, Bobby Bones would be the
Tom Brady of it.
Speaker 2 (46:38):
And I've seen that at the Commissioner Center. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (46:42):
He acts like he doesn't care what people think, but
checks his podcast reviews like their e KG results.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
Yes, yes, yes, Bobby.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I'm starting to hate it. I started to get mad
at him, even though I wrote them.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
You wrote them, yeah, go ahead, Yeah, you just did
this to make me feel better.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
I love the fact that you wrote I feel guilty.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Yeah, I wrote feel guilty.
Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yes, I don't want him to cry, I need to
hand him some major.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
Okay, Bobby grew up so poor. He didn't have a
night light growing up. He just left his fridge open
and stared at hope.
Speaker 1 (47:17):
Deep.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
That's super deep. One more go ahead.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Bobby hosts a national radio show rights best sellers, and
he wins Dancing with the Starts despite moving like a
Madden created player stuck on glitch mode.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Thank you, yes, yes, but now I don't feels bad
because you want to get some shots in on me too.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I took those shots for sure.
Thank you. Where's Katie Perry when you need exactly? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (47:48):
He was like hers was hurtful. Yeah, hers was like furnace.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
Hey, if that's my roast that I get to do,
comparatively speaking, then that roast that I saw with my
buddy Tom Brady, I'm totally fine with that.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Thank you, Thank you. I enjoyed every minute of that.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Thank you all for listening. Please share with your friends
that you listen to the show. Would help us so much.
He's Matt Castle on Bobby Villones. That's kick off Kevin
and read rest in Peace no longer with us, however,
fun fact about read the NFL is hiring Reed to
do our videos now from away because there are other
people were doing it and they did a fine job,
(48:24):
but now we haven't, so Read's going to be at
home doing that. But our new now director of video
is Brandon ray Brand. So thank you guys for listening
and we will see you guys next time on Lots
to Say. Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt
(48:45):
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Mike D
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