Lots to Say: QB/WR Combos, Bobby's Team Finalists, Clutch Moments, and NFL GOATS!

Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel recap their weekends with Matt attending a volleyball tournament in Orlando.  Bobby is playing hurt with a broken tooth and asks Matt recalls some of his worst injuries in the NFL, including a cracked tooth.  We play 'Pick the QB/WR combo' based on where they went to college. Bobby reveals his four finalists for who he will root for!

What was the most clutch moment of your career?  Matt relives getting onto the field and the biggest plays he remembers.  Bobby is excited to see if Cam Ward lives up to the hype, but will the Titans be a good team? 

We finish the list of NFL GOATS for each team.  While #1 can sometimes be obvious, the #2 player gets a lot harder!  There are also teams that have several options for their top player. Also, find out how to get a book signed by Bobby!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got lots, we got loss to say. What bag here?
And we hope you say because we got lost, just
say yeah, we got lots to say. Here's Bobby that

(00:33):
Hello everybody. So I'm gonna ask you in a second
the injury you've played through. That was really the most
difficult injury to play through of your career, and I
want to give you that. By the way, nice shoes, thanks.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
I appreciate that. I thought they were a little swaggy,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (00:48):
They don't amount to what we got going on on
your side of the table.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, these are paint Little Bitton for sure.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
I mean that's such a flex, isn't it. Yeah?

Speaker 2 (00:56):
These these are these are no doubt. But no. But
I'm a shoe guy. So I noticed your yeah Carolina blues.

Speaker 4 (01:02):
I saw it and I was like, you know what,
I like those colors, A little gray, little white. They're
clean right now, give me one more week and they'll
have mud all over the top of them.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
And that's okay, though, I would say now just having
even excellent shoes because it used to be. You don't
want creases and you don't want smudges. Now it's like,
bring on real life. Even with the most elite shoes,
you don't want to be as precious with them because
now you can be too precious.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
You can be too precious. But at the same time,
if you have a pair of white shoes.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's first mudge.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
So I wore these to my daughters for the first time.
Wore them to my daughter's volleyball tournament. I'm sitting next
to one of the moms. She's holding a cup of coffee.
Ball hits her, knocks out, hits like literally, I'm in
the second match of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Hits the top of the shoe, and I'm just like, oh,
that hurts.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
We missed the headline here. So she's drinking a coffee
and a ball hits her and spills a coffee. But you're
worried about your shoe.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yep, sure, third degree burns for her shoes are messed up.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Okay, that's just how it goes in life. Where is
the tournament?

Speaker 3 (02:07):
What town? We're in? Orlando? So we're down there. It
was a four day it's Nationals, and so my thirteen
year old ls.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
She had her Nationals this week. I got a chance
to take her down and it was awesome. They played
really well. They won seven out of eleven games. They
eleven games in four days. I mean, it is a
grind of a tournament. And you've never seen so many people.
There's over a thousand teams there and this is all
thirteen and under.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Are there multiple courts in the same area? Are they like, Oh,
they're everywhere.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
So they're in the Convention Center in Orlando, and for
as far as the eye can see, all you see
is volleyballs. All you hear is whistles, and there's just
people everywhere. It's it's pretty hectic. But at the same time,
like I said, it was, it's fun to go watch
your child go out and perform. And the team played
really well and they ended up winning the diamond bracket.
But again, I don't really know what that means because

(02:57):
gold's the highest and you've got to always play in.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Each diamonds below gold.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Oh yes, and that's what I'm always confused about. I
was like, isn't that aren't diamonds more preciously Well.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
That's like in the airport, and they're like, all right,
all the gold members can line up and looking down,
I'm like, well, I'm sapphire diamond, all right, next up,
first class, I'm like, okay, now diamond, now diamond plus.
And I'm like, there's no reasoning to why they're naming
these things.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
There's no reasoning whatsoever. You're just like, Okay, how does
she feel after that? I think she felt great. I mean,
they probably played it as well as they have all
season in this tournament, and it was It was good volleyball.
It was fun to watch, and at the end of
the day, they won their bracket at on the last day,
So we.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Left feeling diamond bracket. I heard, diamond bracket.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
The funny part is, I think the gold bracket they
get actual medals.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
They gave us a plaque. But I'm we're good with that.
We're good with that.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I'm gonna ask you about an injury that you played through.
If you had to pick one, which one is it.
I'm gonna tell you a story about today. So I
go into my morning show and I get there this
morning and I probably lost about six times a day
on average.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Really like floss.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, okay, where I have floss at work? I have
picks I have. I like to keep my teeth clean.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Do you have a mouth infatuation type deal or just
an obsession with both?

Speaker 2 (04:16):
I had really bad teeth until like my twenties. So
like the first things I did when I started to
make any money in my career was I bought my
mom a trailer and two acres of land, and I
bought me new teeth. And so because I never went
to the dentist until my twenties, and so these are
all fake. But I was floss in this morning and
one of my teeth popped off.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Oh it cracked.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
It cracked right there, oh yeah, and so all day long,
like it's slowly starting to like start hurting, but it broke.
I broke a tooth today, and so I've been playing
through injury. So I've been doing I did four hours
through injury. I'm here playing through injury. You gotta play
hurdy Finn win championships. Though, like I got my sights
out on the diamond bracket. I'm trying to take that home.
And so I'm playing because to me, a broken tooth

(05:00):
like having a mouth injury while talking for hours is
like you haven a ripped by step in your right arm.
I think it would have been chipped regard it was
needing an excuse to chip. Yes, and I lost it
six times a day, so it's probably gonna go regardless.
I have a buddy who tore his achilles, and he
tore it, and he was a good athlete, but he

(05:22):
tore it just by taking a normal step off a curb.
So it wasn't the step off the curb that tore
the achilles. That thing was ready to go from other things.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Just a step off the curb.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
He stepped off the curb went oh, and so what
happened was I don't know, And he like fell but
he was like he didn't feel like a terrible pain,
but he couldn't stand on it. Yeah, and he tore
his achilles just stepping off the curb, to which that
wasn't him stepping off the curb that tore the achilles.
It was the years or whatever impacts leading up to

(05:52):
that that tore the achilles. The curb was just that
final straw that floss this morning, just the final straw.
But I'm playing injured here today.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I appreciate you being here.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yes, sir, that's what I do. I suck it.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah, like, don't.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Care what Disney movie ready is what I say.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Oh my gosh, this is gonna be the comeback story
of the year, just fighting through.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Which camera's mine that one? Look, it's right, I'm here.
This your first, Like, nah, I've had some major mouth
You ever had dry sockets?

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (06:25):
I did when I got my molers out and hurt
like hell when I was doing my dental because I
had years and years of backup dental work to be done.
So I was in the dentists all the time and
they had to pull wisdom teeth, pulled bottom, they pulled multiples.
I had like four dry sockets. Oh it was.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
It hurt so bad.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
And they gave me hydro codone and I'm trying to
take stuff any anything I needed it and it made
my feet feel like they float. And I was like
I remember laying in bed and I felt like my
feet were just going. Oh. I flush those things down
a toilet because I was like, I'm about to love. This
is fun for sure, I can fly. That was hurt

(07:05):
and so bad. Okay, tell me worse injury you ever
had to play through?

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Worst injury I ever had?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
And did you cry all out? Like I'm doing right now?
Did you make sure everybody knew, Like, I'm hurt, but
I'm still going to do it.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
You know. I think the NFL is a culture of toughness,
and so you're always if you can go, you're trying
to go. One injury I had, even.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Going back to college, I sublux my kneecap and it
tore up, so it dislocated and came back in, but
it tore out a huge piece of cartilage, so.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
It moved to the side, and then when it came.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Out of place, and when it came back in, it
ripped out a huge piece of cartilage. And so I
was competing for the job at that point, and I
didn't want to just take myself off the shelf and
hope miss a bunch of practices. So they said, look,
as long as it doesn't catch in this specific area
while you're playing, you're gonna be all right. But what

(07:55):
happened was this thing continued to catch because it was
a quarter sized chunk.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
So I went through that off season competed.

Speaker 4 (08:03):
As soon as we got through that off season, in
portion before we hit camp, I went in and had
it scoped. But then when I was back in New England.
It was two thousand and eight. We're back in Miami
and I got hit awkwardly subluxed again. Luckily I didn't
rip cartilage out, but I remember this knee just being
swollen for about three weeks because it was just hammered.
And then I've played with played with sprained ankles. Before

(08:25):
I was with the Chiefs. Were playing the Denver Broncos.
I get rolled up on, we double taped it, shot
it up at halftime, went back out, but when you
took it off after the game, this thing was swollen
up like a balloon. So you're always trying to go.
I had a little back injury when I was also
with the Chiefs. We were going over to Buffalo and

(08:46):
I just I did something. My lower back couldn't sleep
all night, was up and could hardly move. Somehow, some way,
I took it toward all shot before the game and
was able to go out and compete. But you're constantly
pushing yourself to the limits, and there's some of these
things that you shouldn't go out and play.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
I sprained my MCL.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
First game, actually last preseason game, when I was with
the Chiefs going into season, and so I couldn't play
in the first game, and then of course they got
me the big brace, but I was immobile, couldn't move whatsoever.
And it's always challenging because you want to be at
your best, but you're rarely at your best when you're
playing in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Whenever you have a knee injury and you say, I
guess it was kind of reinjured, or you're watching out
for it, but you failly get hit. Are you thinking
about it the whole time?

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Well, there's parts of it that you're just concerned how
bad is it? Because you're trying to get up, and
at first you're you're not too certain that you didn't
really injure it. But as you start to move and
you can feel yourself still have a little bit of
ability to do what you need to do, then you
start to get more confidence. So you give it a
player too. I knew with the MCL when I did

(09:55):
it in the preseason game, I was like, I can't
even stand back.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Up and the lower back.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
You're going out getting attested before the game and again
you're in pain. But at this end of the day,
you felt like you could still go going to go
and see if you can get through this game. But
there's never a good moment to get injured. There's definitely
injuries that take you.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Out and you immediately know.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Then those other ones that are more bumps, bruises or
spraying stuff.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
You just got to test it out and see.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
If you were playing the Super Bowl, though, and you
had a tooth break like mine, you probably come out
of the game, huh.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Handing it over.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
I'm handing over the game and saying, hey, I'm not
being tough. There's no way I may look at my tooth.
I have got my tooth knocked out before I was
at my did I tell the story. We're in Detroit
and we're having the offensive lineman. They're having a barbecue,
and I go out to play with the little kids.
He had two little kids, and one of the we're
playing washers, and so the one daughter flicks it over

(10:49):
here and I'm looking back and his son had picked
it up. He's maybe five feet from me, and I
see it and he goes perfect shot, hits me right
in my front tooth, cracks the whole front tooth out.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I'm spitting out. My chick lit right there in front
of me. Did it hurt or was it scary looking?

Speaker 3 (11:08):
At first?

Speaker 4 (11:08):
I didn't know what happened until I was like, it
just took me a moment to register and I was like,
oh my gosh. And thankfully it didn't get into the root,
but the whole thing was cracked in half, and the
linemen are just given me crap.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Oh the tooth fairies coming to night in the castle.
Now you feel about that? And of course we had
media day the next day, so I've got to wake
up at the I called the dentists, emergency dentists, and
they put this cap on there because you know you've
got to go, and they've got the special teeth.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
That they can match to the color of your teeth.
I didn't have that opportunity, so I had one really
bright front tooth for me today.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Slurn my words as I go in as they start
doing interviews for media day. It was great, great day.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Kevin's got a game that we're going to play. Now,
I'm not sure how this works. It's a college NFL
game or what.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
Yeah, college NFL game. So I'm going to name two
colleges and you guess which team it is, and it's
going to be a quarterback and they're number one wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Okay, so example, got it?

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah? Give us an example.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
Example is so I'll go quarterback first, LSU wide receiver ls.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
U Joe Burrows Chase.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
Okay, so the Bengals.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Correct, Okay, Now are we going to take turns?

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah, we'll go back and forth.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I mean you have okay, I have?

Speaker 5 (12:24):
I have sixteen?

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Wow, probably a.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Little too many.

Speaker 5 (12:27):
Probably too many.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
It's gonna waste some time here.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:30):
I always put the extras on there. I was thinking
ten to twelve.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Okay, sorry, we'll go five each.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
So we're just picking the team.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah. If you pick the team, you're gonna know players.
Would you like to go first or second? Because I
don't know any of these.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
I'll go first. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Okay, let's go one at a time. Okay.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
Number one QB Mississippi state wide receiver. Oklahoma, this one's yours.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
I wish this one was mine. Can we steal if
they can't get it? You want to?

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Ye? Y?

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah, go ahead steal quick man.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Don't give them on. We can put you on a
time or if you want, But I don't think you
shoul give up. Like I'm rooting for you to get it. Right,
I'm not gonna get this one right.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
Ten seconds, ten second, okay, you got ten seconds?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Okay, so you're gonna get up.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
Five seconds.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
It's Dallas Cowboy, Yeah, Dak Prescott cite lamb. Yeah, I
know you know. See that was me going, I know
you know what. You're gonna be upset whenever you miss
it because you knew you knew it.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, but I just wanted you to have the f
I appreciate that. Yeah, you got a good steal team.
So now is this Bobby's turn?

Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yeah he stole okay. Number two quarterback, cal wide receiver USC's.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Jack Offroit Lance. There you go.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Who's the wide receiver?

Speaker 2 (13:46):
That's easy? Could you tell me? You should know as
you're in school.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I know who is it? You tell me?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Tell me? Now we're getting competitives.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
Brown, Yeah, I'm in row. Came out there you go again.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
I had faith in you. Yes, okay, quarterback, you feel
dumb for the Dallas one because you knew that. I
would have bet you got that.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
What are you off the Mississippi State?

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah? I was just like state.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, yeah, go ahead, all right, all right.

Speaker 5 (14:14):
Number three quarterback Louisville wide receiver, Clemson Ravens.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Oh you got that quicker than I did. Yeah, that
was a good one. I think I would have got there,
but that that was tough.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Could have been a little tricky because DeAndre is new there.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, the last round.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, that was a good job.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Job Matt Okay. Number four quarterback, Ohio State wide receiver, Michigan.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
So Ohio State. How many Ohio State quarterbacks in the
league right now? Uh, I'm gonna go if we're just
off Ohio State quarterbacks, I want to go Jets.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
Wrong Tech Texans, my faults.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
The only thing that I went off of was freaking
the Jets. Just y suggestion Phills is their quarterback. And yeah,
I think I'm forgetting who a wide receiver was. Yeah. Good.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Not a lot of people know nic calling like that's
not ask you got that?

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Would You got to be honest with yourself, Yes, after
you missed it?

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 5 (15:22):
Good even now, alright, we're even two. What is the
two piece?

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (15:27):
Number five quarterback North Carolina wide receiver Maryland.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
North Carolina. Man, is it the Patriots?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Is that your answer?

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Yes? That is correct, North Carolina one of them?

Speaker 5 (15:48):
Close close?

Speaker 2 (15:49):
All right, here we go the Maryland receiver.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Yeah, it's Stefan Diggs, got it.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, Okay.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
Number six quarterback, Clemson wide receiver l s U.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Jaguars Boom, three apiece boom boom boom boom boom.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
Okay we go Matt. Number seven tied up three piece quarterback,
Wyoming wide receiver Boise State, Oh Bills.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah, yeah, maybe Wyoming. You're like, wait, who went to oh, yes,
the exactly you better know.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
Okay, here we go. Number eight quarterback, Oregon wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
S m U. So Oregon's probably going to be bone Nicks,
but I'm thinking TCU as the receiver. Who else would
have played it? Oregon though, because bone Necks. I don't

(16:56):
think two Oregon quarterbacks. It's gotta be Denver Boom yep, yeah,
you know the other Orgon quarterback is but he's back
up now Marcus Marina dyl and Gabriel. That could have
been one. I didn't consider him.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
This has to be not a starter.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, yeah, like this is oh man, if we're doing
third string? Yeah, last level.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
Charts around, Okay, go ahead, Hey we're all tied up still,
what are we on for? Four p so one each?

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Last round? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (17:23):
Yeah, here we go quarterback L s U wide receiver,
Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Washington.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
Yep, damn nice shop.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Good job, dude, yes, good job, good job.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I gotta get this to be class.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
Okay, to stay in right here, Bobby, here we go.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
You've already won, you already won. Yeah, he's gonna rub it.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
In with a.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Quarterback Oklahoma wide receiver.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I'm gonna go Tampa.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
Dang.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, yeah, how many do you have left? We can
do do speed around with three?

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Okay, so three speed around?

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Just yell your name is the buzzer, and he'll he'll
have to stop. Okay, do wide receiver first though.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Okay, all right, you ready, yeah, wide receiver, Marilyn quarterback
U s C. He said, Bobby first.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
So Chicago.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
But yeah, and I said, he said, I didn't say buzzy,
said Bobby. I said, yelling your name.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
You got a buzz in your name?

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Yeah, I mean, did buzz the fabric about this? Because
we both had it, we both well, one cheated, one
didn't and I didn't know. We'll wipe that one away. Okay,
I got more since his ears don't work and he
didn't hear the rules, no point there at all.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
So I gotta say my name.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, oh, I forgot to say say your name, buzz.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
In, say my name, same my name.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
I didn't. I didn't say that. All right, go ahead, Okay,
three more, there we go.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
Wide receiver Arizona Date, quarterback Iowa State.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Bobby San Francisco.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Gosh, nailed that one.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, that was buzz the fabric too.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
Let's go okay.

Speaker 5 (19:18):
Wide receiver Ohio State, quarterback Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Probby Eagles. Nope, Matta, you don't have to buzz in
with your hand Tampa Bay.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
We already got the books.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Shoot, okay, so nobody got it. Nobody got it again.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
Okay. Wide receiver, Ohiose State quarterback.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Arizona Ye, the Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Dang it.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I just went with Oklahoma when you said that, I
want Jalen Hurts. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, alright, one
zero s. We have one more to go.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Wide receiver b Yu quarterback Georgia.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Bobby go.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
Los Angeles boom, Thank you all right?

Speaker 3 (20:01):
I just kidding.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
Yeah, that was good though.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
It was a good game.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, yeah, that was great.

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Shout out. We were singing tubnizing team. No, that was
not harmonized.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Actually great to be don't let.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
No he can kind of sing, no, like kind of
I've heard him saying that because I was singing Earler.
I was like, I'm just a teenage dirt bag baby,
and he's like, I don't really where to go ab
I heard him going, he was on.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
No, that's not even my There's no way I can sing.
I'm awful.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
You know how they say, like the hottest chicks on
another hot, same thing with him.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
He's the.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
I just watched that movie the other day for the first.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
I wonder if they make it today though I was
just about.

Speaker 5 (20:52):
To say it would not hold up today though there's
no way to make it hold Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, they would be very upset with that movie. Pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
I had four teams that I was considering making my
favorite team this year, yes and hopefully forever. And those
four teams are the Broncos, the Carolina Panthers, the Minnesota Vikings,
and the Dallas Cowboys. And this morning, the medical staff
from the Panthers sent me a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
The medical staff like gauze and stuff or what what
are you're talking about? Like the equipment managers.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
The medical staff of the Panthers. It would have been
funny how they sent like needles and jaws, but they
sent me a bunch of Panthers hats and they were like,
we'll be the only medical team from an NFL team
to reach out and say, hey.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
That's amazing, guys.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
I thought it was pretty cool too. Yeah, so one
point for the Panthers.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
So how many points do we have to get to
before you make this decision?

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Mostly it's like I want to be just like so
covered in free stuff. By the way, I have those
Castle jerseys. Do we have the name?

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, we're good.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
We have both of them.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
Oh sweet one is a big Keiefs.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Fan, by the way.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Then we'll make sure he gets the Castle Chiefs jersey,
and the second one will make sure he gets the
Vikings Castle purple.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
Okay, And then I'll let you do this.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
I have a bunch of books because I like when
people write in the comments, like, right, what are you
like about this? It's fun to just look at comments,
and I wouldn't even know there were comments, honestly, had
I not just stumbled across it on Spotify. So if
you go to the comments, I'll let you pick the
thing they're write this time, and we'll pick one of them,
and I'll sign a book and make it out to
them one of my books. Bobby, Bobby's your daddy? Is
that what you wanted to write on the comments? You

(22:23):
can say whatever. You get to pick what they write
about me, because I did say, like castles my daddy,
your castle is a beautiful human or whatever that is.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
So I know those are two random comments, but I
love both of them. Yeah, so I got to come
up with something.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
You don't have to write this second before the show's over.
In the closing, right, you tell them and.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
We're gonna say to Bobby, yep, yeah, and then you get.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
To pick it. It be thinking about that. We'll take
a break. We will come back and I want to
talk about clutch clutch clutch moments. We'll do that in
just a second. Lots to say, Okay, so did you

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watch any of the US Open?

Speaker 3 (23:11):
I did.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
That is a hard golf? Oh my god? Like do
they leave it hard all the time? This is maybe
an elementary question because I don't think if I remember there,
I would like to be a member there if it's
that hard all the time.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Yeah, if you remember there and it's that hard all
the same, it's not enjoyable golf.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Will you look and see Kevin if Oakmont is that
hard all the time?

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Say it's the hardest golf course in the world.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
And it's the only course he designed ever. That dude,
Oh he was evil.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
He was one and nine, just like, Hey, I just
designed the hardest golf course ever.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
What was the entire world? The interesting part was when
there was a rain delay. It's it's I wouldn't say ironically,
because it's been raining here all the time, right, it's
raining right now and I'm looking out the window. It
just pouring down rain. But there was a rain delay
in the last day and they showed the two thousand
and eight US Open, and it was day three and
day four of Tiger making crazy putts right, and the

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final putt that he makes and he goes in. And
by the way, they had to play a whole other
eighteen as a tie. They don't do it anymore, but
the US Open used to be if it's a tie,
you play a whole eighteen holes the next day.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Oh, could you imagine. Those guys are like mercy, like,
let's just split it.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
And so that's what happened. Tiger ties it and then
he goes and they play. I think they played nineteen
holes because there was a tie even yeah, and they
don't do that anymore, but it was eighteen holes. And
so I'm watching that and it was one clutch moment
from Tiger. Day four of the tournament in the red shirt,
another clutch moment from Tiger. So the question is, and
we can both answer this, what is the most clutch

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moment of your career? Pressure was on, and you nailed it.
I can go first. Since I threw this at you,
I give some time to think about it, and it
can be high school, college, it can be pro whatever
it is. With me, I'm gonna go. This is gonna
sound kind of lame, but the pressure was on. I'm
gonna go my final dance on Dancing with the Stars

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to win the championship, because oh.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, I was a lot of pressure.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
I was not good.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Not you're injured playing injured?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Uh the whole season.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Whole season.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
That's how I learned about getting shot up. It was
a dance reality show. Like I have friends like, yeah,
we got shot up every week, but even you earlier,
my ankle was blown out. I was like, I danced,
but I tore I fell and tore my shoulder, and
they shot me up every episode. To be fair, that
network didn't. It had nothing to do with the network
or the production. Yeah, I found an independent doctor that

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shot me up every week because my shoulder hurts so
bad that I couldn't do anything. I couldn't lift my partner.
But that final dance, there's three of us in the finals,
and I got ten ten, the only time all season
I got three tens.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
That's incredible.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
It was incredible, biggest moment, biggest stage, everybody watching, and
you step up and you kill it.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
I danced dance like never I have danced before. I stopped.
It's I can was what they all did. They just
they danced with joy and emotion and I didn't really
have that.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
For the other two groups that you were competing against,
were they actual dancers, Like, did they have dance background?

Speaker 2 (26:11):
There was one kid who was a Disney actor and
he was a great dancer, very trained. He had trained
in singing, dancing, acting, so his Cameron Mannheim or Marlo
mom was famous and he was a Disney actor. But yes,
he was an excellent dancer. If it was just off dancing,
he would have won the show and yeah, I think

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pretty much everybody except for me and DeMarcus Ware had
dance training. Oh wow, and DeMarcus Ware was an athlete.
The great thing those athletes do that they have working
for them as is they know their bodies really well,
so even if they don't dance, they have the ability
to learn quickly and their muscle memory is able to adapt.
He was actually really good. Really yeah, So mine is
going to be my final dance on Dancing with the
Stars to win the trophy because it was championship time.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Gosh, that's a lot of people watching those pretty clutch
right there. I'm trying to pretty coach.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I felt the pressure. It was like watching JJ spond
speak of the US Open. Make that putt?

Speaker 3 (27:04):
Oh that was unreal? Was it sixty five foot putt elite?
And if that putt it looks like it too.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
If that putt goes by the hole, that thing had
some momentum going and he's gonna have to come back.
But to end it like that, And did you hear
the story that took place that night before the final
round his kid about his kid getting sick and he
has to go to Walgreens at two o'clock in the morning,
I was like, what are the chances that that happens
and you got to go take care of a kid,
you're playing dad, and you got to go out and

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win the.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
US Open for the first time.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah, it was awesome against the most different I mean,
on the most diffict.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
What'd you find out about the course by the way, Yeah,
it looks like the ratings as far as there's like
course ratings and slope rating, and.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
It's the highest.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
So it's the hardest course because I knew that, and
I knew that that dude who created the course that
was his only ever course creation. But I didn't know
if they left the ruff that long all the time,
because the ball just disappears.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
It just I don't know how they even hit it
out of the rough. I mean it was they said
five inches deep. So as soon as you got into
that situation, you're like.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
I am screwed.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
It was a bit easter egg hunting for sure.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, and guys just looked at of sorts there was
he was the only one J J spond to finish
under part right.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I don't know that sounds about right. I think so,
but that's probably right. I think one of the days though,
maybe the Robert McIntyre guy was close. He ended up
finishing second. Give me your clutch moment, though.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Oh man, you know that there's so many games that
you go through in the process of your mind at
like clutch moments, big time games. I mean, I go
back sometimes, I go back to New England when I
first started in. A clutch moment for me was honestly
just going in when Brady went down and getting an

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opportunity and seizing the moment and throwing throwing the ball
for fifty six yarder on the first throw that I had.
But I had to prove myself throughout the course of
that year. Because without that year and without going out
and proving yourself and showing the team and Coach Belichick
that you could play, you're He's going to replace you
in a heartbeat.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
So I mean, those are clutch moments.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
And then there's like the two minute drills at the
end of the game to go down and win win
a ball game.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
There's going to.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
London on a huge stage where you're the only team playing.
We get to play the Pittsburgh Steelers. To go out
and you're playing, you're I was going in and for
Christian Ponder who was out for the game as a backup,
and playing in that game and winning Winning that game
in London was awesome.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
It was like a huge moment.

Speaker 4 (29:33):
The game against the Titans that when I was with
the Chiefs were fighting for the AFC West Championship and
we're playing the Titans and had a tremendous game And
to go out and win that and actually secure the
AFC West Championship for the first time in a while
was a huge game for me and our team and
everything else. So there's a lot of different moments that

(29:53):
kind of get blurred in time because you have these
moments that you remember very vividly, but there's not one
in particular that just completely stands out.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Yeah, but you said that, I'm gonna have to go
to the first one that came to you your mind,
because that's the first one that came to your mind.
Was the first throw, the first long throw.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
It was It was because it was such a monumental
moment for me. I've been waiting for what was it,
nine years to get on the field. Didn't play, it
didn't start a game in college, was a backup there
in New England, no real significant time, no starts. Brady
was always healthy, and it's your first opportunity to get
on the field and see if you actually can do it,
not only prove to the team, but prove to yourself.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
I think I could do it.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
But until you get out there in the action and
actually go out and play in an NFL game in
that type of moment, when when the game's decided by
what you do on the field and not like in
a mop up duty where your hand off the ball
or something like that, it was a big moment for me.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
You didn't watch any cam Ward, either footage or conferences
press conference as the coach you're talking about, cam Have
you seen any of all?

Speaker 4 (30:58):
I have. I've seen a few, and I think one
one that stood out to me was that the coaches
were talking about him and his leadership and how when
he came into the building and they started this offseason program,
all of a sudden, they would show up and he's
there at six thirty in the morning with the other

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rookies and they're going through plays and the playbook, and
he's teaching while probably absorbing and learning himself.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
I think that speaks volumes to.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
The type of player in person and leader he is
for that organization because not everybody does that they kind
of get the feel of the land. But he understands
he's going there to be the franchise player and the
leader in the quarterback and that is a significant role
that you can't take lightly. And you can't go and

(31:48):
just be a guy behind the scenes. You have to
be at the forefront. You got to show, especially if
you're going to play as a rookie, which I anticipated
him doing.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
I saw the head coach talking about how he was
talking to Cam after practice, going hey, because they're calling
plays through the helmet, right, And He's like, do you
wan me to stop talking before or I start talking
to you? And Cam's like, no, you can talk the
whole time. I'm talking like I cannot only communicate outur
but I can understand what you're saying. And they were

(32:14):
talking about how weird that was at first because he
would wait for Camp stop talking and then he'd send
in the play. But Cama talk forever, cam Ward to
talk for there's so many camp There's like, you know
Cam Newton, Cam Hayward, Yes, yes, So he said for
him that was a bit of a learning process to
know he could talk even though cam Ward was talking
to the receivers all that to say like, I'm and

(32:34):
I never feel like this way this is about rookies,
But I'm buying the cam Ward hype.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
I am too.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
I mean, if you watched him even last year with
the supporting Cassie had at Miami, the dude's a baller.
He can make every throw. He layers the football really well.
The deep crossing routes are some of the best things
that he does. But he also he's one of those
guys that can get himself out of trouble with his legs,
and he's he's mobile enough to where he'll go take

(32:59):
off and get you some yards. But he's a big,
physical guy. And then when you hear stuff like that
coming from the head coach, of his communication skills and
the alpha that he is at a young age, you
know that he's a confident young man, and that's what
they need because you have to breathe that confidence into
the other players around there and make them believe in
what you're doing and also in him.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
A little bit of me did not want to believe
because it looks so easy for him at Miami, meaning
because it looked so easy because he looked very nonchalant
at times, even during a live play, just chilling. I'm going, well,
when he gets to the NFL, it's gonna be a
whole different world. He's not playing in the weak acc
but I think he just might be able to slow

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it down that much where he is able to play
extremely calm, right.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
And you saw it last year against I think it
was cal They were down like twenty one or something
like that in the fourth quarter or third quarter, and
he didn't blink his eyes, right, he just went out
and made play after play and he put the team
on his back. And it wasn't great protection all the time,
but that guy overcame the adversity and was able to

(34:08):
help his team go on and he was the main
reason that team won that game. But to see him
in that type of environment, because I think as a quarterback,
that's when you're tested the most, is when you're behind
in games, in every play matters and you can't you
have to make plays. And he went out and had
a phenomenal half and led that team to victory.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, I'm buying the hype. Well, how do you feel
about caim wore Kevin? I didn't want to buy any
I didn't want to buy the hype. I don't want
to buy the hype. I'm being convinced.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
I've been seeing good things go out about him, but
I'm also sitting here like it's June. I think there's
nothing really else to talk about right now for a
lot of these like local people, and he's a number
one pick, and it's like, oh my gosh, he's doing great.
And then once the training camp comes in, the game start,
and then he starts to play, then we can really
talk like, oh, yeah, he looked good. But I'm not
there yet.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
I mean, you can buy the hype all we want,
and the coach can say great things about him, and
we can talk about his college performance, but at the
end of the day, that's all it is right now.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
It does, it does, and you know me, I don't
want to believe anything ever.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
Does that have anything to do with living in Nashville.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
No, because it's the opposite. Like I expect the Titans
to be bad forever. Their colors look slow, they traditionally
aren't good. And it's cold. I don't want to go
to games. It's cold filled the dome like all minor
irrational like they just don't. I have no reason to
believe in the Titans. I don't care that they're local.
They're not even on my one of my four teams
to be my favorite team, and they're right down the road.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Do you want them to be good?

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Like with that exciting Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
For the community. I think it's fun because I'm not
a Preds fan, and that's the NHL team, the Nashville Predators,
but it's awesome to see when the Preds. I don't
think about hockey, so let's just say I'm not a
Preds fan. I'm not a hockey fan, but it's fun
to see when they're good because it's fun to see
this town.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
They like unite over sports flags everywhere on the cars,
everybody's got their jerseys on.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
It is really cool to see the city come together.

Speaker 5 (36:04):
It's cool, though, who's the Titans that's coming. I'm just saying,
like that will.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Be in the future. Yeah, a couple of years in
the future. That'll be cool. Yeah yeah, yeah, right now,
it looks cool.

Speaker 5 (36:13):
Right now it's being built.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I jumped by that stadium like during a game in
like December, and it's half full, and I'm like, who
would be yeah, like that that that's like massacus. You're
gonna put yourself that's just pain. Everything about it sounds terrible.
So but I am rooting for the Titans, and I
think Nashville has an interesting sports scene because there are
really no lifelong Titans fans. Now, you could have been

(36:35):
an Oilers fan, like passed down from generation to generation.
But if you're like passing down the Oilers, you're not
passing the Titans on.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
No, you're not.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
So same thing with the Preds. You're allowed to be
a bandwagon fan with the Preds because there aren't really
lifers because the team hasn't been around long enough to
have two or three generations of people loving them.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Right, they'll get like one maybe two generations people.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
So when people get on, no, one's like, you're not
a real fan.

Speaker 4 (36:58):
I am because I can be a fan now because
it's only been here for one generation.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
I'm believing. I'm believing the cam War type. And I
don't believe anybody hype for any reason whatsoever. I don't
even believe my hype, Like I'm like, why am I
even here?

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Because you will go through anything, including a chip too.
That's right to be here and here, that's.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
Playing hurt.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Do you want to finish our list of goats? Oh yeah,
let's go. We've done two thirds of them, have we Okay,
what we should do too, is if we finished this one,
we should just make a special episode and just combine
them all. The Goat episode, the Goat, the Rams. I'm
not I'm not sure if we did the Rams. That's

(37:57):
out of the last one we did. The first one
we didn't do, but the Rams. Aaron Donald, I say,
Aaron Donald, you'd probably have to go with Aaron Donald.
I know we did do the next one.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
So here we go.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
The Miami Dolphins. Who's the greatest of all time? Dann
Marino easily, Dan Reno, right, who would be second? Though?
Jason Taylor.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Jason Taylor was outstanding. I mean no, they won the
Super Bowl?

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Who was uh?

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Was it Grease? He was a quarterback?

Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, But then you're talking people I never saw. I
just have to take the word for yeah, you're gonna
have to say it. I mean they were, they were
undefeated seventy two. But Dan Marino's by far the.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Most recognizable figure. I mean, he played for what eighteen years.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Seventy two when they won the super Bowl, right, yeah, yeah, okay, Shula, yeah, okay,
the Vikings, Frank Tarkenton might have gone, Randy Moss might
have gone.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
He's probably you're You're probably more up to speed with Randy.
But fran Tarkenton for the longest time was that dude.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Fran Tarkenton again before our time, but was probably like
twenty years too early.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
Oh right, because he was that mobile quarterback. They could
run around make plays.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Maybe thirty years because Randall Cunningham was twenty years too early.
So maybe too man.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
He was fun to watch and he had an absolute
cannon for an arm.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
If you go into the UNILV football complex, you see
big pictures of him playing quarter right, but also punting.
Really he was a punter and he ended up punting
a bit in the NFL, like he would do quick
kicks and so you always had to watch out because
he was a college punter and he's pretty crazy.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Next up the Patriots.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
It's a tough one.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Matt Castle man true bloods up. Yeah, yeah, come on, Brady,
Who's second? Who's second?

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Though? Second? It's a really good question because.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Brady made a lot of people great and Kevin, you
are a diehard Patriot fan. Yeah, Castle, you played with
the Patriot drafted by the Patriots. My opinion matters at
least than this one, if I'm being honest, because we've
got a Diard fan and a former player. But I'm
curious to know who you, guys O, who's second overall?

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Who's the offensive lineman? He was the first pick overall
from UH played back in the day. He was an
absolute savage from Alabama.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
Back in the eighties day.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Yes, yeah, I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
If you have to look him up though, does it count.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
I'm sorry I forgot the name, and I am being
disrespectful to the Patriots fans because he is an all
time great, not only Patriot, but like NFL player you're
googling Kevin, He's.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Gonna he will. He takes a lot of pride in
being a Patriots fan and he I know.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
This is yeah, this is yeah. People are gonna like
us for this one.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Matt.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Guys, you can always just edit this out or leave
me and go and you can just edit this out
and then realizing you guys have integrity and didn't edit.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
This out, Joanna, there it is.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, I told you I never heard of him.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
Yeah, you wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
He was an absolute dog because I'm a loser.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Not at all, just because you don't have a professional
football team that you like at all. That's true, that's true.

Speaker 5 (41:01):
Second, I'm trying to think defense.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Yeah, I almost have to go defense because those receivers
I feel like Brady had such except for Moss.

Speaker 5 (41:09):
I'm not counting Moss right because he's he was there
for three years.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah, so is there now a minimal amount of years
because I don't think you can say Walker or Edelman
or any of.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
Those guys because Gronk pops in mind.

Speaker 6 (41:24):
But how about like Bruski, Yeah, Willie McGinnis, Vince wilfrid
Ford Seymour, Richard Seymour, Rodney Harrison.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
But how long did he play?

Speaker 3 (41:37):
It was only there for four years.

Speaker 5 (41:39):
He wasn't there that long either.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Junior say, I was there, but we already picked him
for San Diego. But that was all there.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
So who'd you guys pick. I'm gonna make you commit.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
I have to go Gronk.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
I think that's it. I think that's an acceptable answer
for sure.

Speaker 5 (41:55):
Yeah, he's got he's got to be my pick. Like
Bruski was amazing, but he was just more of like
a culture like this guy is a Patriot.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
But do you think Gronk would have been as die
dynamic if he didn't have Tom Brady? Yeah, okay, then
I do. But also the fact that.

Speaker 4 (42:12):
He had Tom Brady kind of helped him develop as
a player because Tom was so involved in, Hey, this
is how I want you to run this route, and
this is what I want you to do. And if
you don't have a quarterback like that, that kind of
mold you into that person. It might not it might
get there, it might just take a little bit longer.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
His maturity was amplified because Brady was such a dog.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Right.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
How about this controversial answer Aaron Hernandez. Okay, definitely.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
He was my favorite player at the time.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
He was a really good football player.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yes, that's I'll leave it at that. Fair enough. The
Saints Drew Breesrew Brees, Yeah. Second second for the Saints.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Can I go Archie Manning? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (42:58):
You can.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
What sucked for Archie Manning is they were never good
and he was good.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
He was like.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Nineteen eighty seven Andre Dawson on the Cubs MVP on
the last place team, Like when does that ever happen?

Speaker 3 (43:13):
He was a stud for sure, but Drew Brees, it's
a no brainer.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, I'm fine for second place, second, yes, yeah, or
maybe even Alvin Kamara.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
That was just awesome.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
But I feel like Archie Manning does not really get
the credit he deserves because those teams sucked. Yes, for
a long time, the Giants, Lawrence Taylor, Lawrence Taylor, Lawrence Taylor,
then Phil Simms, then Eli Manning. And I'm not even

(43:43):
laughing at that.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
I mean, and maybe Eli Manning over Phil Sims. Now
that I say that, maybe Eli Manning over Phil Simms,
I could take both. I think they were different times.
I'm gonna go you've shifted me. I'm gonna go lt
Oh what about like I mean, Barbara was awesome, straight hand, straight.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Hander was awesome.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Sac leader Yeah, I mean, come on far far and
he gave it to him.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
I mean he really did gift. Yeah, guess pissed off
about that.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
I said, yeah, Still, I get it if that's all
you have and it's taken from.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
You, but you know, it's been a while since it happened.
I mean, you gotta let that go. The Jets, Oh,
the Jets is that bad that I can't right off
the top of my head.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Just go bam if I say nineteen sixty nine, yeah,
I mean that's the it's weird. He played for O'Brien, like, yeah,
there you go, your boy. Yeah, my boy, it's where
the Joe Namath played for Alabama. Now, obviously Joe Namath
was before us. I wasn't born until the freaking eighties.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Are you talking about the swag that he had?

Speaker 2 (44:52):
No, just he didn't see that guy that played from
the he's from the South California because he's not. I
don't think he wouldn't play for Baron Bryant. But he
just doesn't seem like a quarterback that matches at all
with Alabama. But we didn't watch Alabama obviously, But yeah,
Joe Namath. Who else did you say, Kenny O'Brien.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
Yeah, that won't be number two, Wayne Corbrett, Wayne Corbett
was good.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Keyshawn Johnson was there for one.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
How about the Steelers, Oh.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
We got I mean Roethlisberger's got to be up there.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
I think that's number one as far as people we
can remember, because Terry Bradshaw I don't remember, and it
was different for quarterbacks then he did win all the
Super Bowls and then me and Joe Green. Apparently me
and Joe Green.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
It was an absolute savage But I.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Still think it's Roethlisberger for us.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
It is for us for sure.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
I mean, the guy and his until maybe his last
two seasons was an absolute stut big physical For being
as big as he was, nobody could tackle him, and
he'd run all over the field, and his vision down
the field when a play broke down was absolutely remarkable.
We'd watch him be like what is he doing and
go all the way across the field and rip it backside.

(46:08):
You're like, this guy's a stud. And to come in
as a rookie. Didn't they go to the playoffs as
a rookie? I don't remember, Yes you do. You watched
every game, used to be a Pittsburgh Seelers fan.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
I'm not gonna lie did not chop down that cherry tree?
The Eagles? Eagles? I think we have six more after this,
but the Eagles.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
I mean, Reggie White played for the Eagles.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Probably go Reggie, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
I mean, I'm gonna go with Reggie White. That's where
he started his career.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
Right and then maybe after that, like a Randall Cunningham
Randall cutting him just how dynamic he was, like he
he shifted the game a bit. There weren't others like
him after It wasn't like Steph who shifted basketball whereveryboy
started emulating and then threes are chunked now every possession.
But I think Cuttingham actually allowed the possibility of other

(46:55):
mobile quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
For sure, because I mean the typical quarterback was five
step drops, stay in pocket, throwing rhythm, big strong, He
broke down defenses with his legs. He was a different
generation of player, but he could play in today's game,
is what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, Like, I don't think Cordell Stewart happens without Randall Cunningham.
I don't think he's given the opportunity to be Cordell Stewart.
Without Randall Cunningham. I think he's probably a receiver. They
do what they do well. You know, we don't really
have mobile quarterbacks. But I think Randall Cunningham offered the
opportunity for people to look at the quarterback position a
bit different, which allowed the slashes, which allowed the Mike Vick,

(47:33):
which allowed today right, because everything though is also matured
from college like a college game.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
And it opened the door for coordinators to look at
the position differently from your typical like you're saying, drop back, quarterback.
They got to be big, they got to be physical. No,
if we get some mobility, maybe we can draw up
different designs. Get him outside the pocket, let him break
down a defense with his legs, and he just becomes
another weapon. And he was one of the first ones.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
I don't think Steve Young is able to do what
Steve Young does without guys like Randall Cunningham, because Steve Young,
although he looks like he'd be a slow white guy,
was not a slow white guy like Steve Young.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
He could he could get moved.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Again. I'm not comparing what he was able to do
on his legs to Ranall Cunningham. But Steve Young was
a mobile quarterback.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (48:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
Left handed too. We love that you love.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
We love a good lef.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
I love a good left he alright, five more forty
nine ers. Speaking of Steve Young.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
There's a lot here rich history.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
It's really between two and a half people, right, Jerry Rice.
It's got to be Jerry Right of all the people.
I mean, even it's hard to say Joe Montana is
not in that mix.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
I think Joe Montana is the top five quarterback of
all time?

Speaker 3 (48:47):
Right? And how many? How many Super Bowls?

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Does he have? Four? Yeah? I think four for four
sounds accurate. Steve Young, two sounds accurate because I was
going to say two as well. Remember when he won
the first one? Because and Jerry Rice was the number
one receiver for both of them. He was the common denominator.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
And I think people Steve Young has three, he has three.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
We're very sorry, Steve if we apologize.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
You've been on the program, haven't you not yet? I
think Jerry Rice is pretty well considered the great receiver
of all time, with probably Randy Moss second. Do you
think that's universal, the Randy Moss second or is that
just in my head?

Speaker 4 (49:27):
It's it's comparable for sure. But he played twenty seasons,
isn't he? Jerry Rice?

Speaker 2 (49:33):
It's weird to see him in that Raiders uniform.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Now, that was very weird. That was weird.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Yeah, So we're both gonna go Jerry Rice, Yes, Jerry Rice, Seahawks.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Seahawks ooh, Jim Zorn my no, Russell Wilson.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
So if you're gonna go super Bowl winners, yeah, Seawan
Alexander to me, he was didn't win a Super Bowl,
but god dang, he is really good. He was a
monster in fantasy he was great. Now Fantasy football starting
to infect my picks here a little bit too. Yeah,
Shawn Alexander was awesome.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
Russell Wilson was awesome.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
He was in years too, recency, unbiased.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Right, you got to take away the bias of the
last few seasons and him just getting ripped by everybody.
But when you take that kid and put him in
his prime with Seattle Seahawks, he was the number one
reason why they went back to back Super Bowls. One
one lost the other one, and we all know about
that one.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
We do want to that one. But you know he
also was very mobile, like very mobile, great deep all thrower.
Three left the Bucks. M Derek Brooks, I think it
has to be right. I would agree or a Warren.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Sapp Warren SAPs up there, But Derek Brooks, I feel
like was the face of that franchise for that entire run,
and he ran the defense. And Mike Linebacker just a
very elite competitor and an incredible person. Derek Brooks, I'm going.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
With him, Well tight, I want Derek Brooks to Titans
and would it be Titan slash oilers because if that's
the case, it's got to be warn Moon.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Of course it's warm Moon. If if you're going so.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Let's just go tightens only then yeah, Man Javon cursed.
Mm hmm, Ryan Tannehill, Derrick Henry. It's Derrick Henry, Derek,
it's Derrick Henry. Yeah, George, but I think Eddie's great too.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
But Derrick Henry.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
I think Derrick Henry by knows over Eddie.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
George and Steve McNair.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Steve McNair is too.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Do you watch the documentary on McNair?

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (51:49):
That was crazy wow Wow, just good old country boy too.
But like just the hell it all unfolded, Yeah, and
and that stuff.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
If you watch that documentary, I think you come out
of it feeling a little a little uneasy with the
whole process. Yes, of it sucks. He got murdered and
that's let's take that out of a vacuum. But just
after the murders I'm talking about and the investigation, have
you seen it, Kevin, Yeah, you feel kind of like.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
Yeah, something something, there's still like a lot out there
that we don't know Karen.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Karen Reid trial type stuff where you're like, we need
to retry this crime.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Let me hear more.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Yes, Final one Washington Redskin slash football team slash. What
are they whisker Cats?

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Now that's probably and they're changing their name to the
whisker Cats. This share in what's new pussy?

Speaker 2 (52:35):
We got to get one of those. Everywhere? We got it.

Speaker 3 (52:38):
We got it.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Oh see my the answer that comes to my head.
I don't feel like it's fair because I didn't really
see him play. But it's Darryl Green, the cornerback.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
But he was he was fantastic player.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
I didn't see him play.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Yeah, And then you've got Ripping. You've got all those.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Quarterbacks that won underneath Joe Gibbs right, like four different.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Quarterback at.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Then you got the offensive lineman with Russ Grimm the Hogs.
Who are we missing here?

Speaker 5 (53:13):
What about Riggins?

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Oh? Riggins? Yes, maybe Riggins the running back or Doug Williams.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
I go Darryl Green only because I don't have a
clear winner, and that's my first instinct, so I have
to go with it. It's like when you're picking. I
wouldn't fight you guys for him.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
He played for twenty seasons.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Is that accurate?

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Better check that?

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Why you play?

Speaker 5 (53:37):
Yes, you played twelve.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Darryl Ray Green a former football player and Pro Football
Hall of Fame In Duckty. He played cornerback for the
Washington Redskins for twenty seasons. Sorry I thought nice job.
Won two Super Bowls. In nineteen ninety one, he was
named the world's fastest athlete. Green is also the leader
of these Strong Youth, Strong Youth Strong Communities, a nationwide
program that helps young people develop life skills and leadership skills. Hey,

(54:01):
good for Darryl Green. That's awesome athlete. Fastest athlete and
what so his forty times was four to four back
in the day, that would be probably now digitally like
a three eight. All right, what you come up with?

(54:36):
What shall they write in the comment section?

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Mm hmm. Dance with me, Bobby nice, dance with me.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
If you write in the comments section on Spotify, dance
with me, Bobby, we will randomly pick one of those
those commenters, and we will I will send you a
signed Bobby Bones book, one of the two that I
have here. I've written two books, have written three books,
but two real books and one kid's book, So we'll.

Speaker 3 (55:03):
Send you the set.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
I don't that I commit to that. I don't fully
know that there's like a metal to the set.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
Dance with me, Bobby.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
That's a good one though. Yeah, yeah, I just think
of that while you're you have a bladder of black
ebb of a two year old or a pregnant woman. No,
I try to hydrate myself, you know, Is that really it?
It's really that's why I don't drink enough water. I tried,
and I did, and I would either carry the jug
around or I would keep up with it. But then
I just had to pee all the time. And I
struggle sleeping so much anyway that I was like, it's
not worth it. I'll just be a bit dehydrated.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
Yeah, I mean I go through those phases where I
don't drink enough water and I don't pee for like
two days.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
That's probably not good either. But when I'm trying to,
you know, drink water and stay on it, and then
then you add a little bit of coffee or caffeine
in right before kind of makes you want to go
a little bit too.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
It's just if we don't give you your bathroom time
and a lot of time that we're here.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
That's part of my contract. You just get multiple bathroom says.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
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Speaker 3 (56:16):
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Speaker 2 (56:17):
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