After a video circulated and is now going viral of former UFC Fighter Rampage Jackson's son turning a wrestling match into a violent beatdown, Bobby gives his thoughts and reaction. CBS Sports reporter Brandon Marcello joins Bobby to talk about the huge matchup between Texas and Ohio State in week 1, potential conference realignment, and more! And it's Eddie vs Kickoff Kevin in 'Top 10 Hardest Positions in All of Sports' according to a recent article.
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Speaker 2 (01:32):
Welcome to the show. Bite, everybody's here. We got a
lot to talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
We're gonna talk to Brandon Marcelo coming up, who is
my favorite college football analyst commentators. Now gonna be working
the sidelines on camera.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
He's killing it. Let's hit the whistle. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Now, there is no Eddie for this part. We recorded
a part earlier, but Eddie.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Had to leave.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
We record this out of order sometimes, especially when we
have an interview. Eddie got sick, so you'll hear Eddie later.
But then after we recorded this, Eddie got sick going home.
I will start and I'm I'm sad edd He's not here.
But Rampage Jackson's son, Mike, did you watch this? Yeah?
So let me give everybody the the what happened? So,
Rampage Jackson is a UFC fighter way famous ten years ago,
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still famous, but like Way fighter famous ten years ago.
His son is now twenty two, twenty three around that age,
and his son is a streamer. I think his name's
like Raja Raja, right, Raja r Ajh.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, Rajah Jackson.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So he went to like a local wrestling promotion and
he's out there talking to the wrestlers beforehand. One of
the guys, who's obviously a wrestler and there are cameras everywhere,
thinks that he's one of the he looks like one
of the wrestlers. He's a big dude, and he takes
a can the can is empty, and does a wrestler
move on him and hits him in the hit with
the can, except there was nothing in the can, and
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he did the thing where he like over it and
took the most of the blow within his hand to
look like it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Am I making sense there? Yeah? It was a fake can.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Hit well, so Rajah Jackson is like, all right, let's fight.
Then like really wants to fight the dude, so they're
trying to split them up. Then you see the clip
of them talking about it and the wrestler we'll call
him the wrestler in Raja. The wrestler is like, my bad, dude.
(03:27):
All these cameras were around. I thought this was like
part of the show. Sorry about that, and they shake hands.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Do you see that?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, and they're like all good, all good. So it
went from being a misunderstanding and the misunderstanding I could
have understood Rajah Jackson getting upset, although he is.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
He's a big streamer, so he's got cameras all around.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I get why both had a misunderstanding, but I got
it he didn't he's gonna hit in the head with the can.
But he also didn't really get hit in the head
with the can. It was a fake empty can. They
were doing a work. Then there's a big apology, sorry, sorry,
all good.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Hugged it out.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Then in the ring they had it set up a
roja was gonna come in and attack the wrestler. The
wrestler I didn't know him. His name is Psycho Stu.
I think it was like just a regional thing, right, Yeah.
I think kind of kind of fat guy and like
not like John Cena.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Normal big dude.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, but Roja Jackson runs in the ring, jumps on
him and just starts to He picks him up first
of all, and slams him like UFC fighter hard and
starts to punch him in the face over and over
again with all of his might, like and so even
the people in the ring don't know it's fake at first.
Somebody runs in, It's like, I don't know what's supposed
to do here, And then finally they realized it and
they piled him off.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
But the dude, apparently the wrestler was unresponsive.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
I mean he wasn't moving in the ring, he was
just laying there.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
He got punched so many times as hard as this
kid could punch him in the face. So then you
see the footage of him like people calling him like
you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
He's like, no, you can't. Just it looked to me
like Rajah Jackson.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
People were talking crapped him in his chain and he
had to go prove to a streamers that he's about that.
I think his chat talked him into being rage filled
because they apologized.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
They had the whole hug it out moment. I haven't
even gone to the story because I know you hit
me an official story on it.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Yeah, and then you just hear everybody in the crowd
like realize that it's not a bit, and everybody just
starts screaming yep. And then it take us like five
or six people to like a pin him down.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
You watched the punching, Yeah, it was hard to look at.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
I mean, you were hitting like a lifeless body.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
That's exactly what it was, his punching a lifeless body.
It started outside of the building before the event. I'm
gonna read the news story now because I just gave
you my interpretation of it all.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Raja got into a confrontation with Psycho Stu.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Stu hit him in the head with aluminum can Stu
thought Roja was a wrestler and since there was a
camera on him, he figured they should put on a show.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But Raja didn't take it that way. He was pissed.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The other wrestlers explained to Roger that Stu was just
doing wrestling stuff and not really trying to start anything.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
They shook hands.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
They decided to turn it into a work by having
Raja attack him in the ring.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Later, things got interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
One the wrestlers took Raja's side and said, hey, Stu
is an idiot for hitting you with a can. He
told Raja he should give Stu a receipt, which is
a code. And this happens in wrestling where you actually
like hit somebody once to go, hey, don't do things
that are kind of against the integrity of wrestling. You
hear a lot of the eighties and nineties guys talk
about giving receipts. And you see him on his phone
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reading the chat and he's like, no, I'm going to
go in and beat the crap out of him. I'm
gonna like the chow was firing him up. And then
someone also filled him on the streets after the attack,
and he said he was tired of people playing with them.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
Yeah, he's running down the street screaming.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Oh goly LAPD's investigating if he doesn't get charged. He
was beating a lifeless body and Psycho Stu, it's crazy
to call somebody that just psycho Stu thought it was
going to happen, but he thought it was gonna happen
in a different way, so it made himself vulnerable to
be picked up and slammed. He had no way to
defend himself because he was allowing that to happen to him,
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to which he thought it was fake. He slams them
so hard as head hits and.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Then it's just punch punch. Oh my god, it's awful.
It is awful.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Speaking of wrestling, John Cenas retirement date is happening. It's
gonna be on Saturday Night's main event in December, his
final match December thirteenth.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Is this gonna be like cowboy rides away or no, like.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
He's not gonna go Well, it's not that he doesn't
go away. He goes away, but every once in a
while he comes back.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
I mean, it's wrestling. The Rock still comes back from
time to time. So I think it's him retiring from
being in the ring as far as like in a match,
but I think he'll come back.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
The other fight, and we talk about this with Brandon Marcelo,
was the fight after the Kansas State football game and
you see Avery Johnson's dad fighting somebody. Avery Johnson's the
Kansas State quarterback. Kansas State got beat. It was a
close game, two good teams in Ireland. I watched the
whole game. It was Kansas State and Iowa State all
rooting for Kansas State because I bet Kansas State and
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you see they're like, Avery Johnson's dad's in a fight.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Turns out he was beating up his son. The other brother.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
Is everybody okay exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
They've all They've released the joint statement since then. But
it is.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Crazy because you just go, somebody must have talked crap
to Avery Johnson's dad and he's like, I've got a
couple of.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Beers, let's go.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
But turns out it was the dad and the sun
his other Avery Johnson's brother.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Crazy. Uh so, yeah, that's what's up. Football was interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I lost like seven hundred dollars in the first game
because I bet Kansas State minus three and then I
bet them plus two and a half.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Once they went down.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
They ended up losing by three, so I lost both
both of those bets. Then I was like, all right,
screw this, I'm going all on in Kansas because I
know coach Leipold's little bet and so I.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Bet Kansas heavy and they ran. It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Kurt Warner's son is the present State quarterback. Though lost
the game they were supposed to lose. I think the
spread was like thirteen. I bet Kansas minus thirteen. They
easily covered, but I made all my money back plus.
But I was about to go heavy in the whole
Week one, heavy in the begins already, Yes, heavy in
the whole.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Do we want to go to Brandon? Now?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, okay, let's go over my chat with I'm not
calling the best in the business when it comes to
reporting and talking college football, Brandon Marcelo. Brandon is one
of the guys who never says, hey, what do you
what are you going to talk about?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So I can be ready.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
He's just like, let's go, Brandon will be joining us
a bunch. You can follow Brandon at Brandon Marslo on Instagram,
at b Marcelo on Twitter, and then read his articles
at cbssports dot com. Here he is, Brandon Marcello. Before
we get to a bit of week zero in Week one,
what is the what's the what's the new job you
have here?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Brandon? You on the sideline you're gonna be doing for
reporting or what?
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Yeah, I'm gonna be doing a little bit of everything.
This year, I'm going to be on the sideline doing
some reporting for CBS Sports Network during this season. I've
got one game on the book so far, and in
addition to my other duties for CBS Sports dot Com
writing and then also on TV for CBS Sports HQ
and our new podcast we launch College College Football Insiders.
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So very very busy times, but exciting because it's football season.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I saw your jacket. That's gonna be pretty cool. We
got the old CBS jacket, the logo.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I mean, that's official.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
I was not expecting that. I totally like flipped my mind, like,
oh yeah, we still do that. And they asked for
my address, and when I got it, I my heart
was just it's an absolute dream. I don't even know
how to describe it. It was just it's insane. It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
And I was so happy for you when I saw that,
because that's like a thing like when they send you,
they send you the actual jacket with their own mind.
They're paying for that, And anytime anybody pays for anything,
it means they're investing in you. They've promoted you into
this position, they think you're good, Like.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I felt proud for it. Not proud of you, but
proud for you because I think you're the best.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Thanks.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Thanks, Bobby. I appreciate it, man, and listen, I've been
doing this soul for a while and just you just
got to keep working hard. At some point, you know,
you'll start getting opportunities. So I really appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Bobby.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Let's talk a little bit a week zero.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I saw the article you wrote about Abrad Johnson at
Kansas State. Did you happen to know that his dad
and brother were also beefing with each other?
Speaker 5 (10:59):
I had no idea until I saw the video and
then the statement they released after the game. You know,
tippers flair among families, I guess, especially competitive families, and
I was but I was shocked. I mean it was
a legit street fight, like in the in the water,
in the rain street. Hey, that's the day and age
we live in. You better be aware that everybody's got
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a camera, obviously, and if you're gonna do something publicly,
it's gonna be caught on film.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
And it did not.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I mean it was out within like an hour like
after the game, that it was out there already. You
just gotta keep yourself I mean, save that for the
hotel room. Go back to the hotel room and do
your fight if you have to.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I saw the clip at first, and it said Avery
Johnson's dad gets into fight and it looked like he
was pounding somebody over a mud puddle or like a
concrete puddle.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Right, it was one of those. And then later it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Came out that that was Avery Johnson's brother, so also
his son, right, so all that, like, do we have
any idea why they fought?
Speaker 5 (11:55):
No clue, no idea. I mean, obviously it was a drama,
had a game and heartbreaking loss the way they lost
it because Kansas State, you know, went four on fourth
down late, didn't get it. Iowa State got the ball
back and was able to go score to win the game.
I'm sure there was Listen, there's always sibling rivalries too,
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you know. You know, I would love to have been
a fly in the stands to hear what they were
saying while everything was happening there at the end of
the game.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I thought there were a couple of pretty fun Week
zero games. I thought that was a pretty good game
because I watched I watched two full games. I watched
the Iowa State Kansas State game, which I'll say I don't.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I don't mind the.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Games overseas, like I feel like they could be annoying
for the players. And why are colleges going over? I
get NFL going over, you're trying to stretch the brand,
but college is a little weird. But in Ireland, where
it rains a lot playing in it's not even a dome,
Like everything just fell off about that.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Yeah, I don't understand why they do either. And in fact,
there's a lot of coaches out there that have told me, like,
we will go overseas, Like if they tell me it's
up to me, I will say, no, absolutely not. And
you saw it on display Saturday. I mean the yard
markers were barely even visible on the field. Even repainted
them at halftime and they're still not visible. The field
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was just an absolute mess. And plus just the travel
for it. You know, Kansas State didn't actually lead to
a little bit later for game week than you usually do.
A lot of NFL teams have started doing that a
little bit because they just want to get there, get
one day rest and then get in and get out.
And I don't know what the best way to do
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that is, but to go six time zones away to
go play one game, especially season opener, I don't know,
unless there's a lot of money into that. In the future,
I think we're gonna see less games like that. And Bobby,
I mean you've seen this, like there's been less and
less neutral site games early in the year. We're gonna
have a few this year, but we're moving further and
further away from that too. And the reason why is
because these athletic directors want to bring games on campus
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so they can sell tickets, sell concessions, and then also
get some better revenue from that, because as we've seen nowadays,
is the revenue sharing you with the players. You've got
to get every every ounce you can out of those
fans with their tickets.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'll go one more game from this past weekend and
I watched the Kansas p Fresno State game. It feels
like both Kansas programs, and I know Kansas State lost,
but definitely that program is in an upward trajectory. Same
with Kansas. They have a new stadium. They looked fast.
The quarterback that we saw play Arkansas real close a
couple of years ago, he looked awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
He was healthy.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
He's his sixty year playing, So like Kansas really looked
fast yesterday.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Any thoughts on Kansas.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah, they're gonna be really good this year. They're going
to be right in the thick of things, especially if
Jayaln Daniels, the quarterback, as you mentioned in stay healthy
because his issue the reason why he's playing in six years,
because he's had injuries over and over and over again.
They've mostly had to deal with his back. And if
you have a back injury, even back spasms, I mean,
that is so difficult to get rid of and even
be able to play one hundred percent even when you
are able to on the field. That's going to be
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key for them. Can Jalen Daniels stay healthy. And at
your point about Kansas and Kansas State, but both being
good at the same time. That's kind of been the
case off and off of better part of the last
four years. A little bit down year obviously with Kansas
last year because of the injury of Jalen Daniels, but
both programs led by former FCS head coaches who won
championships on the FCS level, and again it just shows
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you that if you're a championship type coach. That translates
to no matter what level, really and Kansas and Kansas
State did a smart thing and just said, hey, these
guys win titles, they know how to build rosters. Bring
them over here, and let's do that here. And the
more remarkable job of rebuilding has been done by Lancelipold
at Kansas, because that place was absolutely in the dumps
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in the Big Twelve. Then all of a sudden a
few years back, they beat Texas on the road in
a high scoring, really exciting game. And now they're on
the rise, and they've got a three hundred and fifty
million dollars stadium to boot. They've got things really rolling
there in Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I think coach, I wouldn't say a friend, but almost friend.
Where we text, I like coach like paul a lot,
and so I text him yesterday. I waited till way
after the game, and I said, this is typical coach
to speak back, but I said, hey, you guys look
really fast, because I thought they did. They looked really fast.
I said, solid week one, stadium looks great. Hope you're good,
and he sent the text back, Thanks, Bobby, appreciate the text.
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Proud of the team, but plenty to clean up, so
you know, classic coach speak, the stadium turned out.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Great, come up here for a game.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I really like him and I like that he's been
able to go because he turned Buffalo around two, right,
and those are terrible blue colors, and it's harder to
turn around a blue team than any other team. I
have a theory, and so you know I'm rooting for
both those Kansas teams. It's the Fresno State coach. Also
a coach that came from the same pedigree and then
went to USC for a year and now it's coaching
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for Fresno State. And I think you're seeing those guys
that come from those building those winning programs. If you'll
give them some time, they also can build at the
Division one level as well, right.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Oh absolutely, I mean look at Kaylin de Bort Alabama.
I mean he came from like the Naia level and
then moved his way up Division III level, actually moved
his way up and then landed at Washington and took
them to the National Championship Game. Then obviously now coaching Alabama,
which some would argue is the top job in America.
But he's never really been in a job where he's
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facing the Mets pressure, and last year was their first
non ten win season and since two thousand and seven,
so like now all the pressure's like, well, you better
win ten, eleven, twelve games getting the playoff this year,
or you're the worst coach ever. But you know, the
guy just simply wins. He wins like ninety percent of
his games, which is almost unheard of these days.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Texas and Ohio State we're starting off.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I mean, you couldn't You couldn't bang bigger to start
off the season.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Which team is more loaded with stars?
Speaker 5 (17:44):
That's a great question. I think Ohio State by the
end of the year will be. You know, when you
think Ohio State, all you think of is Jeremiah Smith
Caleb downs there on the back end at safety. But
they've got other players on that ross that aren't quite
proven yet that I think are going to end up
being superstars, like maybe a James Peoples at running back.
(18:04):
The thing with Ohio State though, like a lot of
teams these days, but the thing with Ohio State is
they lose practically everybody on defense, and they lose a
lot of guys on offense as well, including the quarterback
Will Howard. But you got Jeremiah Smith, so everybody just
kind of says, well, Ohio State's a top three, top
four team this year. I think early in the year here,
Ohio State might struggle a little bit because they're gonna
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be trying to find their identity with all these new pieces,
even though they're very talented and they've been backups most
of their careers there, Whereas with Texas, I think you'll
notice more names you like. Of course Arch Maining, we
know him. But with Texas, the thing for them is
that they're really talent along the defensive front, and they've
got some really great players there. It's just that no
one considers alignment a household name. So guys like Colin
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Simmons and those got type of guys. They're phenomenal, some
of the best players you'll see on a football field
in week one, but no one goes out and puts
posters on their walls of defensive linemen. But Ohio State.
Ohio State's gonna have the bigger names, I think by
the end of the year. But Texas might right now
just simply have the most proven superstar types that are
maybe not flashy at the skill positions. Other than Arch maining, you're.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
A well connected guy.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Do you think they actually just figured out who their
starting quarterback is at Ohio State or they've known and
just didn't want to say it.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
They've had an inkling since the spring. But the thing
with coaches is is they legitimately pretty much try to
do a bank slate blank slate when they go into
preseason camp and they try to make sure it's an
even competition, to give them every opportunity to prove themselves
or for that matter, kind of crumble under the pressure.
And there was a moment there in preseason camp where
leacoln Keynolts was able to show something. But it was
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very clear from the teammates and some of the assistant
coaches there that Julian Sane was the more talented guy
higher upside ready to take over. Lincoln was more of
that veteran type, someone you knew probably wouldn't make a mistake,
but it's not going to be as flashy with his arm,
and you know, they just needed to push Julian through
these few weeks of preseason camp and see that he
can handle all the pressure and everything, and he proved himself.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Let's talk about Clemson for a second, because I wonder
if the pendulum is swinging back in a positive way
with with Zabo, because it's he doesn't want to go
and take his out of the portal. He doesn't want
to do all these new a we'll call him new age,
but everybody's doing him now. But then you see last
year he had basically the least amount of kids leave.
So the culture that he's been building at times, which
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was zagging while everybody else zigged, it's either going to
pay off big time this season, right, or he's going
to have to change. I don't know how he manages
and builds a team. Would you say that's accurate?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Possibly? I will say, like, I think he's evolving a
little bit, like this past year was the first time
he took multiple kids out of the transfer portal. But
you're right, absolutely correct in saying that he has not
been a guy who's leaned onto the portal. In fact,
the only portal guys they were end up getting a
few the last few years were former walk ons, you know,
guys that even had played it previously he was bringing back.
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But the difference with Clemson is that he's brought in
four and five star kids and they've stayed, they're not leaving,
they're not transferring out where. That's happening everywhere else in America,
and as you mentioned, that's straight up culture. And in
this era where I mean most rosters are turning over
at least thirty thirty five guys at the very least,
it's not happening at Clemson. So I think a lot
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of us assume, based off of the way they finished
last year and everybody returning back, that they've got an
edge on everybody else on the schedule, and for that matter,
everybody else in college football because they all know each other,
they've been in the same system for several years. You
don't get that in college football anymore. And they should
be one of the top three or four teams in
the country this season. And the reason why a lot
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of pick people picked them to win the national championship.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, Penn State at two. How much of that is Drewler.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
I think a lot of that is not necessarily him.
I think a lot of it is just everybody else
that returns around him. And I think the upgrades they've
made a receiver through the transfer portal. They've got a
guy like Trevor Pinn from Syracuse, who is like eleven
hundred twelve hundred yard guy. Remember Penn State, And one
thing that's probably been holding them back is just the
passing game. They can't throw the ball down the field consistently,
and Drew Aller has not been very consistent, especially on
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intermedia and short throws, which is amazing. He'll hit deep throws,
but like the intermediate stuff, the stuff you need those
little chunk plays to keep the ball moving. He has
struggled a little bit. But I think the reason why
Penn State is ranked as high as they are, and
I put him number two in my rankings too, is
that it's because they returned so much much like Ohio
State last year, where they went all in and went
to the transfer portal, got the top players they could,
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and then kept everybody that could have once the NFL
on campus, guys like Nick Dawkins at center, who's incredibly underrated.
They are stacked at Penn State this year, and not
just on the field, but also on the sideline. I
mean they would hire Jim Knowles, the defensive coordinator fresh
off winning a national championship at Ohio State, made him
the highest paid coordinator in the country. So Penn State
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is I mean, if they don't have to tell you,
they're showing you they're all in on this year. They're
pushing in the middle of the table that this is
the year they've got to win the championship.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
We saw the SEC say we're going to play nine
conference games, plus you have to play a game against
a powerful school, and which is some teams are gonna
hapen to do some some restructuring now because you know,
looking at twenty six twenty seven, maybe there aren't enough
P four games outside of the conference, especially when you
have to substitute another conference games.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
So the SEC like they're in.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I'm a homer, but shouldn't there be four guaranteed spots
to the SEC now that we're going nine plus one
P four game.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
That's what the Big ten's arguing. But I think because
of the SEC now deciding to do this nine game schedule,
it's actually going to put more pressure on the Big
Ten to get on board with the other conferences by
not doing the four aqs and the CFP doing a
sixteen team format, but doing so with the five highest
ranked conference champions and eleven at larges. What's been so
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fascinating about this whole playoff debate is that the Big
Ten and SEC at the like director were on the
same page with the four AQ idea for months because
they were a meeting together. Remember they had two big,
kind of hushhot secret of meetings in Nashville and then
also in New Orleans, and they're all on the same page.
But then the moment they got away from each other.
The SEC coaches are like, we like the more at
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largest because we believe if there's more at large spots,
the SEC can get six to seven, maybe even eight
teams into the playoff, Whereas with the Big Ten, it's
a very strong conference at the top. It might be
better than anybody else, but they don't have the one
through sixteen and one through eighteen depth that the SEC has.
So if you go back and look at the averages
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and everything, and I've tried to crunch the math on this,
the SEC is practically going to be ahead of them
every step of the way if it's a five plus eleven,
which means more money for the SEC and less money
for the Big Ten and the Big Ten a lot
of ways they want to do this four AQ thing
because one, of course, you get four teams in every year,
even if you probably don't have a fourth team that
deserves to be in. So that's money. But also it
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allows them to create playoff play in games on their
conference championship weekend, which is an additional two games in
addition to the conference championship game that they can sell
to their TV partners. In addition to giving hope to
other Big Ten teams that are ranked lower, say as
low as number eight, that hey, all we got to
do now is win one game and we get a
playoff spot. That's exciting. That's exciting for fans, it certainly is.
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But in the end, the more important thing is is
that they get the money. And the SEC is kind
of fine with how way everything is right now, and
the other conferences don't want to see the Big Ten
and SEC have committed spots. Because I do this comparison
whenever I hear this, you know, it would be like
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ten years ago the ACC right after they broke the
record for most teams in the NLA Men's Basketball Tournament, saying, hey,
with the new contract with the men's tournament, we want
eight automatic bids every year. The SEC you get three
because based off this rolling average, the last five years,
the SEC has been by far the worst conference in basketball.
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Well fast forward ten years later, if we were under
that format, guess what, The SEC just broke the record
for most teams ever in the Insult Men's Basketball Tournament.
No one thought that was possible ten years ago. So
if they decided to do a contract much like the
college football playoff this year, can you imagine with the
outroar we'd be having right now? Football basketball are different.
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I understand that, But if you were to do this
AQ scenario, you're going to have conferences go absolutely down
the tubes at times year year, three, year seven, something
like that, and you're going to go this league deserves
maybe one or two teams in. They definitely don't deserve four,
and their number eight team definitely doesn't deserve a chance
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by just winning one game in a play in game
to get in. So I very much understand that argument
that we're hearing across college football right now.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Do you think that conference championship games are short lived
now because they need that spot that weekend?
Speaker 5 (27:04):
It depends on who you talk to. The SEC doesn't
want the championship game to go away. The SEC championship game,
I think the other conferences would maybe be okay with
it going away and just going by the regular season
standings and say, you know, Clemson finished No. One in
the ACC, so you're your champion, and then the number
one and number two teams in the standings sit at home,
and then you do two play in games. I don't
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really know what the answer is going to be there,
I pers but personally, I don't want to see conference
championship games go away. I just don't. I think they're exciting.
You don't quite ever know what's going to happen. It
has changed the playoff field. In fact, on championship weekend,
I can remember Michigan State pullowing an upset in the
Big Ten championship to pave the way for Auburn and
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the SEC to get in and back in twenty fourteen.
We just can't. I don't think you can get rid
of those championship games.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
One other question that you're not going to have the
answer to because nobody does. But I've seen you tweet
about it, and I have had thoughts as well as
the SEC says, hey, we're gonna have nine games in conference,
but every team's going to play three specific same teams
every year, and they said they laid out what they
were basing it on, like geography, I think was a
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bit rivalries, and then also they wanted it to be fair,
like balance, and who knows what balance means? The same
thing you just talked about with putting teams into a tournament.
That's what balance is, because you don't know who's going
to be great in five years or who's not.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
But when do we know? And then I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I'm just so selfish and thinking about Arkansas that we're
going to get every absolute worst team we could possibly get.
Somehow We're going to play teams Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State not.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Even in the SEC. Like when are we going to know?
And then what do you I don't know, who do
you think Arkansas plays?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
I think that by November, I'm just guesstimating based off
things I've heard. Probably even build mid season, they're gonna
have a good idea of what the three permanent rivals
are going to be. I don't know if the see
we'll just go ahead announce that, but it will be
based off some formula rolling winning average, whether it's for
the past five years, the past ten years previously when
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they're discussing going to nine games. A few years back,
it was gonna be a ten year rolling average. Who
should Arkansas play? I mean, obviously Texas you got to
put on there. You've got to probably keep one of
the quote unquote trophy games, which is Missouri and LSU.
I would be inclined to believe that it'll end up
being Miszou because LSU is going to want to have
a more of a permanent rivalry game against obviously Old
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miss with a Magnolia ball, and then also Texas A
and M, which has been a big ratings grab for
the SEC here of late. And who that third opponent
would be for Arkansas depends on who you kind of
really talk to, but it probably might end up being
Old miss You know, we'll see. But what they try
to do is if you have a big rivalry game
and they're a top tier team, they try to give
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you a team in the middle and then team near
the bottom. They try to make it all average out
to where your average schedule strength judged by those sixteen
team ranking is about number eight. Right some programs, I'm
not gonna be able to have that satisfaction because like Texas,
I mean their three rivals are Arkansas, Texas and Texas,
A and M and you know, excuse me, and Texas
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is oh you excuse me? You know O you and
A and M is always probably gonna be in the
top half of the conference. So that makes it difficult
for them. Alabama for that matter, heck, Georgia, Georgia's permanent
rivals being Florida and Auburn. I've had some of Auburn
fans going, we want their three permanent rivals to be
what it used to be back in the early nineties,
which was Alabama, Georgia, and Florida. But goodness gracious, that's
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supremely difficult, just based off of what you are accustomed
to seeing with them. But the good news is, I
don't think the three permanent rivalry thing is a big
deal because you're gonna have six other teams on the
schedule every year, and you're gonna play every team in
the in the conference. Based off of that, like every
every two four years in a four year old in average,
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you're gonna play every team in the SEC. So you're
just gonna have some seasons they're gonna be more difficult
than others, and you're gonna have some that are that
are easier, and it's not necessarily because of those three
permanent rivals. It can depend on how those teams rotate
on the six and six.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I have a worst case scenario that Tennessee gets Kentucky
and Vanderbilt, both, which they probably should.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
That sucks. They shouldn't get those two teams. Nobody should
get those two teams together.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
I don't think they'll get Kentucky. I think they'll get
Vandy just because of the quote unquote in state stuff.
But I don't think they'll get Kentucky. I think Kentucky's
gonna get matched up a lot potentially with the three
just base offers. Also on previous scheduling things South Carolina
Mississippi State, for example, because Kentucky does not have a
rival in the SEC, their only rival out of the
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courses in the ACC and Louisville. I don't think there's
going to be a schedule where you look at and go,
oh my gosh, their three rivals are so easy. I
think it's gona the opposite. You're gonna look at two
or three teams go wow, those are supremely difficult, whereas
everybody else is going to be pretty comparable.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
All right, final question, my assumption is, and you may
not have, but my assumption is you watched any given
Saturday or on Netflix the SEC show.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
No, you did it.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
So here's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
I thought, Either you're like me where I avoid all
music when I'm not working in music, like I avoid
all music. And I didn't watch it at all for
weeks because I didn't want to like teams I.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Don't like like mine was all.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I don't want to watch a coach or a team
or a fan base I can't stand and find myself
pulling for them. And I decided I wasn't gonna watch it,
didn't want to be involved in it. My father in law,
massive ou fan, was over and we would get one
on a vacation to like East Tennessee, and we're like, well,
what do we do?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
And we turned it on.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I didn't plan to watch it. Yeah, I loved it.
I didn't want to love it. I wanted to not
like it and not watch it. After the first episode,
I came away, since you this is not your opinion.
I came on liking Brian Kelly way less than I
already liked him, and I didn't like him much to
begin with. Have you spend any time around him?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
And is he just cold?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
He's cold. He is a cold guy. It is what
it is. Everybody's different, but he's definitely a cold guy.
I don't watched the documentary, but he's just he tries
to turn it on and even then it's like trying
to start a start an old car in the winter,
cold in the morning. It's just this chuck. You're like, dude,
that's not you. But that's good to hear. It's good.
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I just I've been one. I'm so busy, I say,
I'm so abu I can't watch it. I'm actually watching
the Dallas Cowboys one right now on Netflix. I'm really
enjoying that. And I just I didn't want to do
the SEC one because I thought I wasn't it produced
by the SEC. So like whenever I see someone that
like they have a big stake in it and they're
like they can edit things in and are out or whatever,
So I'm always hesitant to look into that stuff, especially
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like because all these schools have these amazing like in
house video productions. Now they do their own documentaries, and
I don't watch them all because they're they're gonna cut
stuff out that might be controversial, but I guess the
sec one they leave some stuff in they do.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I'm gonna tell you who I would like to play for.
By the way, I wish I could just play, like
I alwish I was good enough to play.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
But by watching this, who I want to play for.
Number one is freaking Clark Lee at Vanderbilt. Like if
you put a wall up and he goes go, I'm
running through it. And I already felt like I really
liked him anyway, because I got a chance to know
him when I was touring. He came out and did
a show with me, Like I like him as a person,
but watching him and his interactions and how he works
with that team, his vein pops out in his head
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like that dude is intense.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Yeah. I remember I was at a coaches convention. He
was giving a big speech in front of all the coaches,
and he had a slide show up and he was
showing pictures of a certain NFL team that used their
facilities at Vanderbilt during the playoffs to practice, and they
pretty much wrecked Vanderbilt's locker room. Didn't clean up after
themselves or whatever, and he showed the pictures of it
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and what the way Clark Lee reacted to it and
telling the players about how he goes see this, they
don't even respect you, and no one respects you. No
one respects Vanderbilt. You know what we you going to
do about it? And obviously I'm surmising and putting everything
together there, but the way he put it across showing
that picture is phenomenal. I mean, this guy is the
ultimate I want to say motivated. He's also the ultimate
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like tactician and building things. He's a type of guy
like if I had a new company and he met
handling millions of dollars and everything. He's someone that I
would not be reluctant to hire to lead that.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, he was awesome.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I think my favorite coach, just like as a person
is probably Shane Beemer because he's aught again. Have been
able to spend some time with him, been very fortunate.
I love him as a dude and then watch him him.
Your thoughts on Shane Biemer.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Yeah, he's authentic. I'm exactly exactly the same way. I've
spent a couple of days around him. I went down
and over there in Colombia and then spent an entire
day with him, followed him everywhere. I was standing outside
the bathroom even I was following him waiting for him
to come out. I mean, he's fantastic. And then you
know the stories you hear from him about growing up
around his dad and wanting to be a coach because
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his father. And then you see him on the field
during games he's got his son with him just so
he makes sure his son can enjoy the big moments
with him, just like he did with his dad. I mean,
it's all genuine. He's not like trying to get on
camera or anything. The guy when the camera's off, he'll
sit there and talk to you forever. It doesn't matter
who you are. I saw him doing it at a
practice once, talking to someone that was just they're visiting
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with some family member, asking about on what they do.
I mean, there are a lot of people like that
in this world, but not a lot of them that
are you know, head coaches or people that have fifty
thousand people tugging them different ways every day.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
And then the last one that I have interest in
now and then we can wrap this is Jeff Leby
Atsissippi State, which I didn't know much about him other
than my family's from Oklahoma. He went to Oklahoma, came
back to Oklahoma and was a coordinator before also has
bounced around a bit and his growth, but went to
Mississippi State. Like, I like the dude from watching this,
but I don't know enough about him. What are your
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thoughts on him?
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I don't know anything about him either, Yeah, I don't.
I haven't spent any time around him. He was at
Ou for not very long. Actually, he's more or less
and he's from that Art Brill's tree with Kendall Briles
is where at Baylor. The first I ever heard his
name come up was actually with some type of actually
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some sideline scandal. He was at someone else's game on
the sideline and they're like, you can't be here, are
you scouting? It's the rules. It was almost like a
mini Michigan thing or whatever. And he got a little
hot water over that. You know, that Brill Circle, especially
just with coaching, just coaching, like their offense and the
raid they do things like no one like there's like
(37:33):
maybe eight people on earth who actually know what that
playbook looks like because it keeps such a tight circle,
Like you don't see them at coaching clinics, going here's
my playbook, guys, here's some good things that we're on.
Here's some ideas. They don't do that. They're very secretive
about that stuff, and I don't know. Maybe that's why
I haven't really got to know him. But he's only
been there for a year and a half.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
So we'll see, all right, Brandon Marcelo follow him on
Instagram at Brandon Marcelo killing it right now. Just feel
fortunate when we get you on now that you're growing,
now that you're a superstar. It's like, can we get
Brandon to come on the show? So we knew you
in we knew you in Brandon.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Well, no, I appreciate, Bobby, I'm not a superstar. Just
love what I do.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Man, Yeah, you're great at it. There is Brandon Marcelo. Brandon,
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Speaker 1 (39:47):
Have this list of the top ten hardest positions in sports. Okay,
so they factor in all sports major sports, football, baseball, basketball, soccer, hockey, golf.
I guess golf doesn't have positions.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
No, you're just a player.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, So what I have here is the top ten
hardest positions in sports. Kevin and Eddie, we'll take turns,
and the higher up the list, and more points you get. Okay, Kevin,
quarterback quarterback comes in. So here's what we'll do. The
person with the least amount of points wins. It'll be
like golf.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
Because number one gets the lowest money points.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
Right, I got it.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Okay, what do you say?
Speaker 8 (40:30):
Quarterback?
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Quarterback comes in at number six, So Kevin with six points?
Speaker 6 (40:36):
Okay, I'm gonna go goalie.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Goalie in soccer at number three, good one, Eddie with
three points, okay, Kevin, corner.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
Back tough position, Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
It is tough. Hard's the hardest I know, because you're
having a judge and guess what another supreme athletes.
Speaker 6 (41:01):
Doing in front of you, and you're kind of running backwards.
He's got the advantage.
Speaker 8 (41:05):
It's especially these days and the rules and stuff.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
And also when people are like, oh, you play cornerback
and somebody else here's it and thinks you're a quarterback
and to be like, no corner it's also like a
slight Yeah, cornerback at number five, tough list. So we
have goalkeeper, socker quarterback in cornerback five and six. Aie.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
I'm gonna go with the picture in baseball.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Picture makes the list. Picture comes in at number eight,
so it's even right now. Eleven to Eleven's go.
Speaker 8 (41:42):
Hey, now I'm gonna say goalie in hockey number two.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Wow, the job big one.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Five still up on the board, Eddie.
Speaker 6 (41:53):
I'm gonna go with the big man position in basketball,
the center. It's a lot to cover that paint. Man,
It's tough.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Bobby's you know, you look left.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
You look right. Oh no, I I get the rebound.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Didn't make the didn't make the list. So that's one strike.
H three xes though you lose, Kevin over to you.
I'm gonna go catcher baseball, catcher number one. Maybe that's so.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
Hard about catcher, Dude, you got to call the game.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
You gotta always be.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
They got it down, they got little ear things. Now, little.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Kevin, I don't know that you can be beat ye
at this point, maybe anybody you have. So we have
catcher at one the hardest positions in sports, the hockey
goalie at two, the goalkeeper in soccer at three, cornerback
at five, quarterback at six, pitcher at eight, first baseman.
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That's the easiest position in the end, coming at the
best hitter who can't really play in film. Okay, correct,
two strikes, Kevin. I'm gonna go point guard number nine.
Point right, there you go. It's the easiest, Eddie. One more, Oh,
I got it. Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
When I said center, I meant the center in football.
God's brutal, dude. You start looking down and then you
gotta look up.
Speaker 9 (43:21):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
It's a good one, actually, though incorrect, Eddie, you've been eliminated.
There are one, two, three things left. Kevin, you've already
won the game. But let's se how when you can
get into the three left? You haven't missed anything. So catcher, goalie, goalie,
corner of quarterback, pitcher, point guard. I don't really know
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any somebody said picture.
Speaker 6 (43:44):
Right, Yeah, I said picture, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Easy, buddy, one of the two you got?
Speaker 8 (43:49):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna take a shot here in soccer
and just say.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
Midfielder, what's so hard about that?
Speaker 8 (43:55):
I don't even know. I just know it's position.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
They do not run NonStop, NonStop.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
No, it didn't make it okay. You should have two
strikes to play with.
Speaker 8 (44:08):
Centerfielder.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
No, I think I know it. If you're out, if
he's not out, he's got one. More so the Brandon,
The hardest one is four. There's four, seven and ten left.
Speaker 8 (44:25):
Let's keep baseball here. Let's say third baseman.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
No, it's gonna go around the diamond.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah no, didn't you did win though graduation?
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (44:34):
I think I lost.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
It felt like a win.
Speaker 6 (44:39):
You only get two, That's what I'm saying. Like it
wasn't really much of a match, Brandon, What.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Do you think I was gonna say? Third baseman? No, shortstop, okay,
short stop, short stopper, third basement, No, you can't do
or or.
Speaker 8 (44:51):
No, the same position basically somewhere in the middlefield or something.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Okay, you have two left, you have seven and ten?
Uh ten is probably not something I would have ever
guessed in a million years. It is from hockey, though,
oh the enforcer, the defender, and I don't know that
I would have ever even guessed that was a position,
because I know we have skaters, we have stickers, golders,
that's it, and fighters.
Speaker 6 (45:14):
Four positions pretty much.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Yeah, not a big hockey guy. There's one position left.
It's number seven one one position in sports. It's a
football position.
Speaker 8 (45:24):
Anybody guess safety, kicker.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Anything, mister Brandon, defensive end all wrong, or even the
kickers all wrong, even the kicker, you can't believe it.
Speaker 6 (45:42):
High pressure position, running back mm hmmy the punter.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Now, you can all take turns till somebody gets it.
Left tackle correct, That's that's what I meant.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
Why Why is that harder than the right tackle?
Speaker 1 (45:56):
You gotta protect the quarterbacks blind side.
Speaker 6 (45:58):
Maybe he's a if he's a lefty, no, what if if?
Speaker 8 (46:03):
It's okay, right tackle, But generally speaking, you got Dylan
Gabriel back there.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, Okay, that's why that position is so important.
Speaker 6 (46:13):
I learned something today. What did you learn that that
the right tackle is very important.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
There's this whole article about what happens to your body
if you don't go to sleep, which I find fascinating
because I have this unhealthy relationship with sleep. And so
here we go. This doctor, doctor Michael Gardner, has laid
out what can happen to your body after a prolong
lack of sleep twenty four hours. I think we've probably
all done that. Yeah, as a kid and even occasionally
(46:38):
as an adult, either you party or you work, and
it's like, well, I can't go to sleep, might as
well stay awake twenty four hours. Cognitive impairment and reduced
reaction time can set in, similar to having a blood
alcohol level of point zero one. So point zero eight
is what you get busted for the UIDWI. But a
question for you guys. If you go to Vegas and
(46:59):
let's say you stay out till two or three four
o'clock in the morning and you have a six o'clock flight,
do you try to get a couple of hours sleep
or do you just roll it and Stay up.
Speaker 8 (47:05):
Kevin, Stay up, especially in Vegas, because because what's the
point at that point, Like you have stuff to do?
If you're in like some random city somewhere else and
you're like, well do I just sit here in the
hotel room? I have nothing to do? But in Vegas
you can sell the tables, you can go to a club,
you can do all kinds of stuff in Vegas to
keep you up.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Okay, Eddie, what would you do?
Speaker 6 (47:26):
Stay up? I've been burned too many times where like
I'm like, I'm just gonna take a two hour nap
and I and I missed my flight.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yep, Oh, I don't think I don't want drink myself.
I've never missed a flight, dude.
Speaker 6 (47:35):
It's it's the worst feeling of like just two hours.
It's never. You're never. If you are drinking all night
and you go to bed at three, you're not just
gonna get two hours of sleep. You're gonna get ten.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
I think it's no surprise. Then I get a couple
of hours.
Speaker 6 (47:49):
Sleep because you weren't drinking.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah, And I'm just like I got a couple hours.
I'm as well get a couple and then I can sleep.
Also on the plane. M hm, So I would always
get that couple of hours. If I can get it,
what do you do? I'd probably stay up. But I
haven't been to Vegas in a while, so I usually
i'd be in bed by nine. Not part of the equation.
Speaker 6 (48:09):
Yeah, stay up.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (48:13):
I did this in Toronto once, where I went to
bed at three in the morning, had to get up
a finer National traveler.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
No, I believe, You'll never believe what I do.
Speaker 8 (48:23):
Go ahead, And I woke up still like wasted, felt
like I didn't even drink or sleep in a minute.
And I threw up five times on the plane rightt home.
It was the worst flight of my life. So that's
also why I probably would stay up.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
You threw up five five times? Is that common? If
you're throwing up, it's a lot. I thought it was
just once if you like throw it.
Speaker 8 (48:39):
Because I mean, if you're that hungover and you're that sick.
It was like my fourth day of drinking straight.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Too, so it all factor that'll do. But you are
you okay?
Speaker 5 (48:48):
No?
Speaker 6 (48:49):
You ever heard of Hair of the Dog?
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Yeah, so like in many ways, yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (48:53):
Hair of the Dog drinking is just like you know
what I feel like terrible, But I'm just gonna keep
drinking so I don't have a hangover. Yeah, and you
keep doing that, like I been saying four days in
a row, dude, that you do that, it bites you
in the butt.
Speaker 8 (49:03):
And then your body just detoss it detoxes itself like
it wants to get everything out of you. So just
throws it all up for you.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Hmm. Hair of the dog can be used in a
bunch of ways, but I feel.
Speaker 6 (49:13):
Yeah, I've only used in that drinking. Hey boy, screw it,
ha ha.
Speaker 8 (49:16):
Yeah, what's another way?
Speaker 6 (49:17):
Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Really, it's if anything's happening. Uh, let's see. Let me
that's my sister. Oh see what she says, because I've
often said use that, which mean just do more of it.
If you're hurting from not doing it anymore, just do
more of it to kind of raise your back, get
you back in.
Speaker 6 (49:34):
Okay, you can do that working out then, I guess right.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
So for so well, now for soreness, it's like I'm
super sore. Let me get a little hair of the dog,
get back in and do it. Do some squats, kind
of get into a little bit. That's a good example.
I couldn't really think of one after I said, I
so that screwed. I would do this secon story anyway.
Thirty six to forty eight hours of no sleep? Anyone
ever been that long without sleep? Have you ever done
two full days?
Speaker 6 (49:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (49:59):
I don't think I have either. No, never two full days.
Physical and cognitive performance continues to slump. You might even
experience micro sleeps, which means you don't mean to fall asleep,
and you're not physically falling asleep, except there are these
brief periods where you don't even realize you're asleep. I
think Casey has that right now. Whoa seventy two hours
(50:23):
Hallucinizations can escalate to extreme paranoia, and long term complications
could be on the horizon. Whoa horizon three days of
not sleeping you It would be fun to hallucinate if
you could somehow snap out of them, meaning, okay, I
will do this to myself. I'll hallucinate LSD like something
like a drug like that which I don't know. Do
(50:44):
you ever do that while youre in Toronto?
Speaker 8 (50:46):
N in Toronto?
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Okay? Where it's like that would be interesting. It's fun
to try if for some reason you can just like
shock yourself and get out of it immediately once to
start it did not feel safe, but it feels like
those when you hallucinate. You really have no control when
you're gonna.
Speaker 6 (50:59):
Get back no way. Yeah, in that like when sailors
say they saw mermaids.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
That's just because they've been out.
Speaker 6 (51:06):
Yeah, sure, never they were lost at sea, Yeah, freaking
out or in the desert.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Yeah, like the mirage. No, no, ninety six hours or more.
Your memory could start resembling that if someone who has
Alzheimer's and your perception reality could be distorted into something
resembling psychosis. And then I think you just.
Speaker 6 (51:26):
Die if you were if you were lost in like
in the desert. Do you think you would sleep?
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Ever lost?
Speaker 6 (51:33):
You may not ever get found. You think you're gonna die?
Would you sleep?
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Probably? Because because I think, are you asking would my
body allow me to or what I want to know?
Speaker 6 (51:42):
Would you want to Yes?
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Because I would need to recharge in order to keep going.
You have a limited time of being able to go
until your body needs sleep. And sure I may never
but I'm gonna need that recharge in order to keep trying.
Speaker 6 (51:54):
Yeah, I'd be like it's the best part, Like I'm
just gonna sleep, man, They're not gonna find me anyway.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
It's the best part.
Speaker 6 (52:01):
I'm just gonna fall asleep.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
Is there any other good favorite part about being lost
in the desert.
Speaker 6 (52:05):
I love sleep so much. They would be like, I'm
just gonna sleep, like they're not gonna find me anyway.
And if I die, I die.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
I don't think that would be the case. They it'd
be hard to sleep if you think you might die. Also,
in the desert, what may come and get you. There's
not a lot of like organic matter out there. You know,
we'll wear wolves.
Speaker 6 (52:21):
Those are real side sidewinder snakes well.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
And also if I'm having looten to hallucinations, hallucinations, yeah,
the were wolves. Now, yes, Mike. What was the story
about the guy who live streamed and he died? Do
you ever see that?
Speaker 7 (52:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (52:39):
It was like I can ask my assistant, but he
like live streamed so long just stay awake and ended
up dying on the live stream. I'm pretty sure unless
that's urban legend. Sometimes I've been caught up urban legend.
Speaker 6 (52:50):
Sure, people talk.
Speaker 7 (52:51):
I think if the urban legend was correc because Heartlet
gave out.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
What's the story of the person who stayed up a
long time, as in didn't sleep and he was on
a live stream and died.
Speaker 9 (53:01):
Yeah, so that story actually kind of a cautionary tale
that's been teared around a lot. The person you might
be thinking of is tied to a sort of internet legend.
There have been a few different stories, but probably the
most known one is about a guy who tried to
break a record for staying awake and was live streaming
it and then he ended up passing away from what
was essentially sleep deprivation and strain it put on his
(53:23):
heart and body. It's a bit of an urban myth
in some wheres because there are a few versions of
the story floating around, but the core idea is going
with how it's sleep for extreme lengths of time, it
is really dangerous, and it's one of those stories that
kind of circulates as a warning. So it's definitely a
bit of a dark tail.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
What do you think or what has been the urban
legend on the amount of hours he stayed awake?
Speaker 9 (53:43):
Yeah, so the legend usually goes that he stayed awake
for something like eleven days straight, so around two hundred
and sixty to two hundred and seventy hours, which is
kind of the classic number that floats around.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
It's actually a.
Speaker 9 (53:54):
Number that's kind of based on a real record attempt
by someone named Randy Gardner back in the nineteen sixties
who actually did a wood for a love is as
part of a science experiment. But in the urban legend
version it's more dramatic and it ends tragically because he
was live streaming and never select and then passed away.
But yeah, the number that usually gets thrown around is
about eleveed A's what you do is.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
You have a twin nice switching out. You switch them.
Speaker 6 (54:20):
Out how on the live stream, like I'm gonna go
to the restroom real quick.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
You fall down, and then all of a sudden they
come out. They come out of the floor.
Speaker 6 (54:27):
Sorry I swiped.
Speaker 8 (54:28):
I got twins.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
Yeah, we do it.
Speaker 6 (54:32):
One's a boy and one's a girl.
Speaker 8 (54:33):
We'll never know.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
Dress them the same. Keep those babies up for days.
Twenty four hours sleep, twenty four hours sleep. That's where
we do. That's what you do. Okay, the rivalries, the
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That's gonna do it for this week, Eddie, get better, Eddie.
He should be better by it later on this week,
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take this. He's supposed to shoot a bunch of content
because that is where the Hyundai plant is make the cars.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
So we're gonna go down shooting content for Hunday.
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But if he's sick, because Amy's been sick for two
weeks and she's finally back tomorrow Tuesday. In the show Brandon,
we have to call you in, call you from the
dugout to come shoot content down in Georgia. Uh yeah,
get better Eddie, although Eddie won't listen to this, Get
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Speaker 2 (01:32):
Welcome to the show. Bite, everybody's here. We got a
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Speaker 1 (01:36):
We're gonna talk to Brandon Marcelo coming up, who is
my favorite college football analyst commentators. Now gonna be working
the sidelines on camera.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
He's killing it. Let's hit the whistle. Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Now, there is no Eddie for this part. We recorded
a part earlier, but Eddie.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Had to leave.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
We record this out of order sometimes, especially when we
have an interview. Eddie got sick, so you'll hear Eddie later.
But then after we recorded this, Eddie got sick going home.
I will start and I'm I'm sad edd He's not here.
But Rampage Jackson's son, Mike, did you watch this? Yeah?
So let me give everybody the the what happened? So,
Rampage Jackson is a UFC fighter way famous ten years ago,
(02:18):
still famous, but like Way fighter famous ten years ago.
His son is now twenty two, twenty three around that age,
and his son is a streamer. I think his name's
like Raja Raja, right, Raja r Ajh.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, Rajah Jackson.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So he went to like a local wrestling promotion and
he's out there talking to the wrestlers beforehand. One of
the guys, who's obviously a wrestler and there are cameras everywhere,
thinks that he's one of the he looks like one
of the wrestlers. He's a big dude, and he takes
a can the can is empty, and does a wrestler
move on him and hits him in the hit with
the can, except there was nothing in the can, and
(02:58):
he did the thing where he like over it and
took the most of the blow within his hand to
look like it.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Am I making sense there? Yeah? It was a fake can.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Hit well, so Rajah Jackson is like, all right, let's fight.
Then like really wants to fight the dude, so they're
trying to split them up. Then you see the clip
of them talking about it and the wrestler we'll call
him the wrestler in Raja. The wrestler is like, my bad, dude.
(03:27):
All these cameras were around. I thought this was like
part of the show. Sorry about that, and they shake hands.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Do you see that?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, and they're like all good, all good. So it
went from being a misunderstanding and the misunderstanding I could
have understood Rajah Jackson getting upset, although he is.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
He's a big streamer, so he's got cameras all around.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I get why both had a misunderstanding, but I got
it he didn't he's gonna hit in the head with the can.
But he also didn't really get hit in the head
with the can. It was a fake empty can. They
were doing a work. Then there's a big apology, sorry, sorry,
all good.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Hugged it out.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Then in the ring they had it set up a
roja was gonna come in and attack the wrestler. The
wrestler I didn't know him. His name is Psycho Stu.
I think it was like just a regional thing, right, Yeah.
I think kind of kind of fat guy and like
not like John Cena.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Normal big dude.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, but Roja Jackson runs in the ring, jumps on
him and just starts to He picks him up first
of all, and slams him like UFC fighter hard and
starts to punch him in the face over and over
again with all of his might, like and so even
the people in the ring don't know it's fake at first.
Somebody runs in, It's like, I don't know what's supposed
to do here, And then finally they realized it and
they piled him off.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
But the dude, apparently the wrestler was unresponsive.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
I mean he wasn't moving in the ring, he was
just laying there.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
He got punched so many times as hard as this
kid could punch him in the face. So then you
see the footage of him like people calling him like
you can't do that.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
He's like, no, you can't. Just it looked to me
like Rajah Jackson.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
People were talking crapped him in his chain and he
had to go prove to a streamers that he's about that.
I think his chat talked him into being rage filled
because they apologized.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
They had the whole hug it out moment. I haven't
even gone to the story because I know you hit
me an official story on it.
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Yeah, and then you just hear everybody in the crowd
like realize that it's not a bit, and everybody just
starts screaming yep. And then it take us like five
or six people to like a pin him down.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
You watched the punching, Yeah, it was hard to look at.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
I mean, you were hitting like a lifeless body.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
That's exactly what it was, his punching a lifeless body.
It started outside of the building before the event. I'm
gonna read the news story now because I just gave
you my interpretation of it all.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Raja got into a confrontation with Psycho Stu.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Stu hit him in the head with aluminum can Stu
thought Roja was a wrestler and since there was a
camera on him, he figured they should put on a show.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But Raja didn't take it that way. He was pissed.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The other wrestlers explained to Roger that Stu was just
doing wrestling stuff and not really trying to start anything.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
They shook hands.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
They decided to turn it into a work by having
Raja attack him in the ring.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Later, things got interesting.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
One the wrestlers took Raja's side and said, hey, Stu
is an idiot for hitting you with a can. He
told Raja he should give Stu a receipt, which is
a code. And this happens in wrestling where you actually
like hit somebody once to go, hey, don't do things
that are kind of against the integrity of wrestling. You
hear a lot of the eighties and nineties guys talk
about giving receipts. And you see him on his phone
(06:24):
reading the chat and he's like, no, I'm going to
go in and beat the crap out of him. I'm
gonna like the chow was firing him up. And then
someone also filled him on the streets after the attack,
and he said he was tired of people playing with them.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
Yeah, he's running down the street screaming.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Oh goly LAPD's investigating if he doesn't get charged. He
was beating a lifeless body and Psycho Stu, it's crazy
to call somebody that just psycho Stu thought it was
going to happen, but he thought it was gonna happen
in a different way, so it made himself vulnerable to
be picked up and slammed. He had no way to
defend himself because he was allowing that to happen to him,
(07:00):
to which he thought it was fake. He slams them
so hard as head hits and.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Then it's just punch punch. Oh my god, it's awful.
It is awful.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Speaking of wrestling, John Cenas retirement date is happening. It's
gonna be on Saturday Night's main event in December, his
final match December thirteenth.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Is this gonna be like cowboy rides away or no, like.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
He's not gonna go Well, it's not that he doesn't
go away. He goes away, but every once in a
while he comes back.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
I mean, it's wrestling. The Rock still comes back from
time to time. So I think it's him retiring from
being in the ring as far as like in a match,
but I think he'll come back.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
The other fight, and we talk about this with Brandon Marcelo,
was the fight after the Kansas State football game and
you see Avery Johnson's dad fighting somebody. Avery Johnson's the
Kansas State quarterback. Kansas State got beat. It was a
close game, two good teams in Ireland. I watched the
whole game. It was Kansas State and Iowa State all
rooting for Kansas State because I bet Kansas State and
(07:54):
you see they're like, Avery Johnson's dad's in a fight.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Turns out he was beating up his son. The other brother.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
Is everybody okay exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
They've all They've released the joint statement since then. But
it is.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Crazy because you just go, somebody must have talked crap
to Avery Johnson's dad and he's like, I've got a
couple of.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Beers, let's go.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
But turns out it was the dad and the sun
his other Avery Johnson's brother.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Crazy. Uh so, yeah, that's what's up. Football was interesting.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I lost like seven hundred dollars in the first game
because I bet Kansas State minus three and then I
bet them plus two and a half.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Once they went down.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
They ended up losing by three, so I lost both
both of those bets. Then I was like, all right,
screw this, I'm going all on in Kansas because I
know coach Leipold's little bet and so I.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Bet Kansas heavy and they ran. It was awesome.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Kurt Warner's son is the present State quarterback. Though lost
the game they were supposed to lose. I think the
spread was like thirteen. I bet Kansas minus thirteen. They
easily covered, but I made all my money back plus.
But I was about to go heavy in the whole
Week one, heavy in the begins already, Yes, heavy in
the whole.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Do we want to go to Brandon? Now?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, okay, let's go over my chat with I'm not
calling the best in the business when it comes to
reporting and talking college football, Brandon Marcelo. Brandon is one
of the guys who never says, hey, what do you
what are you going to talk about?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
So I can be ready.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
He's just like, let's go, Brandon will be joining us
a bunch. You can follow Brandon at Brandon Marslo on Instagram,
at b Marcelo on Twitter, and then read his articles
at cbssports dot com. Here he is, Brandon Marcello. Before
we get to a bit of week zero in Week one,
what is the what's the what's the new job you
have here?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Brandon? You on the sideline you're gonna be doing for
reporting or what?
Speaker 5 (09:38):
Yeah, I'm gonna be doing a little bit of everything.
This year, I'm going to be on the sideline doing
some reporting for CBS Sports Network during this season. I've
got one game on the book so far, and in
addition to my other duties for CBS Sports dot Com
writing and then also on TV for CBS Sports HQ
and our new podcast we launch College College Football Insiders.
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So very very busy times, but exciting because it's football season.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I saw your jacket. That's gonna be pretty cool. We
got the old CBS jacket, the logo.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I mean, that's official.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
I was not expecting that. I totally like flipped my mind, like,
oh yeah, we still do that. And they asked for
my address, and when I got it, I my heart
was just it's an absolute dream. I don't even know
how to describe it. It was just it's insane. It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
And I was so happy for you when I saw that,
because that's like a thing like when they send you,
they send you the actual jacket with their own mind.
They're paying for that, And anytime anybody pays for anything,
it means they're investing in you. They've promoted you into
this position, they think you're good, Like.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
I felt proud for it. Not proud of you, but
proud for you because I think you're the best.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Thanks.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Thanks, Bobby. I appreciate it, man, and listen, I've been
doing this soul for a while and just you just
got to keep working hard. At some point, you know,
you'll start getting opportunities. So I really appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Bobby.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Let's talk a little bit a week zero.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
I saw the article you wrote about Abrad Johnson at
Kansas State. Did you happen to know that his dad
and brother were also beefing with each other?
Speaker 5 (10:59):
I had no idea until I saw the video and
then the statement they released after the game. You know,
tippers flair among families, I guess, especially competitive families, and
I was but I was shocked. I mean it was
a legit street fight, like in the in the water,
in the rain street. Hey, that's the day and age
we live in. You better be aware that everybody's got
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a camera, obviously, and if you're gonna do something publicly,
it's gonna be caught on film.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
And it did not.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I mean it was out within like an hour like
after the game, that it was out there already. You
just gotta keep yourself I mean, save that for the
hotel room. Go back to the hotel room and do
your fight if you have to.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I saw the clip at first, and it said Avery
Johnson's dad gets into fight and it looked like he
was pounding somebody over a mud puddle or like a
concrete puddle.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Right, it was one of those. And then later it.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Came out that that was Avery Johnson's brother, so also
his son, right, so all that, like, do we have
any idea why they fought?
Speaker 5 (11:55):
No clue, no idea. I mean, obviously it was a drama,
had a game and heartbreaking loss the way they lost
it because Kansas State, you know, went four on fourth
down late, didn't get it. Iowa State got the ball
back and was able to go score to win the game.
I'm sure there was Listen, there's always sibling rivalries too,
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you know. You know, I would love to have been
a fly in the stands to hear what they were
saying while everything was happening there at the end of
the game.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I thought there were a couple of pretty fun Week
zero games. I thought that was a pretty good game
because I watched I watched two full games. I watched
the Iowa State Kansas State game, which I'll say I don't.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I don't mind the.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Games overseas, like I feel like they could be annoying
for the players. And why are colleges going over? I
get NFL going over, you're trying to stretch the brand,
but college is a little weird. But in Ireland, where
it rains a lot playing in it's not even a dome,
Like everything just fell off about that.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Yeah, I don't understand why they do either. And in fact,
there's a lot of coaches out there that have told me, like,
we will go overseas, Like if they tell me it's
up to me, I will say, no, absolutely not. And
you saw it on display Saturday. I mean the yard
markers were barely even visible on the field. Even repainted
them at halftime and they're still not visible. The field
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was just an absolute mess. And plus just the travel
for it. You know, Kansas State didn't actually lead to
a little bit later for game week than you usually do.
A lot of NFL teams have started doing that a
little bit because they just want to get there, get
one day rest and then get in and get out.
And I don't know what the best way to do
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that is, but to go six time zones away to
go play one game, especially season opener, I don't know,
unless there's a lot of money into that. In the future,
I think we're gonna see less games like that. And Bobby,
I mean you've seen this, like there's been less and
less neutral site games early in the year. We're gonna
have a few this year, but we're moving further and
further away from that too. And the reason why is
because these athletic directors want to bring games on campus
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so they can sell tickets, sell concessions, and then also
get some better revenue from that, because as we've seen nowadays,
is the revenue sharing you with the players. You've got
to get every every ounce you can out of those
fans with their tickets.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
I'll go one more game from this past weekend and
I watched the Kansas p Fresno State game. It feels
like both Kansas programs, and I know Kansas State lost,
but definitely that program is in an upward trajectory. Same
with Kansas. They have a new stadium. They looked fast.
The quarterback that we saw play Arkansas real close a
couple of years ago, he looked awesome.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
He was healthy.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
He's his sixty year playing, So like Kansas really looked
fast yesterday.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Any thoughts on Kansas.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah, they're gonna be really good this year. They're going
to be right in the thick of things, especially if
Jayaln Daniels, the quarterback, as you mentioned in stay healthy
because his issue the reason why he's playing in six years,
because he's had injuries over and over and over again.
They've mostly had to deal with his back. And if
you have a back injury, even back spasms, I mean,
that is so difficult to get rid of and even
be able to play one hundred percent even when you
are able to on the field. That's going to be
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key for them. Can Jalen Daniels stay healthy. And at
your point about Kansas and Kansas State, but both being
good at the same time. That's kind of been the
case off and off of better part of the last
four years. A little bit down year obviously with Kansas
last year because of the injury of Jalen Daniels, but
both programs led by former FCS head coaches who won
championships on the FCS level, and again it just shows
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you that if you're a championship type coach. That translates
to no matter what level, really and Kansas and Kansas
State did a smart thing and just said, hey, these
guys win titles, they know how to build rosters. Bring
them over here, and let's do that here. And the
more remarkable job of rebuilding has been done by Lancelipold
at Kansas, because that place was absolutely in the dumps
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in the Big Twelve. Then all of a sudden a
few years back, they beat Texas on the road in
a high scoring, really exciting game. And now they're on
the rise, and they've got a three hundred and fifty
million dollars stadium to boot. They've got things really rolling
there in Lawrence.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
I think coach, I wouldn't say a friend, but almost friend.
Where we text, I like coach like paul a lot,
and so I text him yesterday. I waited till way
after the game, and I said, this is typical coach
to speak back, but I said, hey, you guys look
really fast, because I thought they did. They looked really fast.
I said, solid week one, stadium looks great. Hope you're good,
and he sent the text back, Thanks, Bobby, appreciate the text.
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Proud of the team, but plenty to clean up, so
you know, classic coach speak, the stadium turned out.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Great, come up here for a game.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
I really like him and I like that he's been
able to go because he turned Buffalo around two, right,
and those are terrible blue colors, and it's harder to
turn around a blue team than any other team. I
have a theory, and so you know I'm rooting for
both those Kansas teams. It's the Fresno State coach. Also
a coach that came from the same pedigree and then
went to USC for a year and now it's coaching
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for Fresno State. And I think you're seeing those guys
that come from those building those winning programs. If you'll
give them some time, they also can build at the
Division one level as well, right.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Oh absolutely, I mean look at Kaylin de Bort Alabama.
I mean he came from like the Naia level and
then moved his way up Division III level, actually moved
his way up and then landed at Washington and took
them to the National Championship Game. Then obviously now coaching Alabama,
which some would argue is the top job in America.
But he's never really been in a job where he's
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facing the Mets pressure, and last year was their first
non ten win season and since two thousand and seven,
so like now all the pressure's like, well, you better
win ten, eleven, twelve games getting the playoff this year,
or you're the worst coach ever. But you know, the
guy just simply wins. He wins like ninety percent of
his games, which is almost unheard of these days.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Texas and Ohio State we're starting off.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I mean, you couldn't You couldn't bang bigger to start
off the season.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Which team is more loaded with stars?
Speaker 5 (17:44):
That's a great question. I think Ohio State by the
end of the year will be. You know, when you
think Ohio State, all you think of is Jeremiah Smith
Caleb downs there on the back end at safety. But
they've got other players on that ross that aren't quite
proven yet that I think are going to end up
being superstars, like maybe a James Peoples at running back.
(18:04):
The thing with Ohio State though, like a lot of
teams these days, but the thing with Ohio State is
they lose practically everybody on defense, and they lose a
lot of guys on offense as well, including the quarterback
Will Howard. But you got Jeremiah Smith, so everybody just
kind of says, well, Ohio State's a top three, top
four team this year. I think early in the year here,
Ohio State might struggle a little bit because they're gonna
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be trying to find their identity with all these new pieces,
even though they're very talented and they've been backups most
of their careers there, Whereas with Texas, I think you'll
notice more names you like. Of course Arch Maining, we
know him. But with Texas, the thing for them is
that they're really talent along the defensive front, and they've
got some really great players there. It's just that no
one considers alignment a household name. So guys like Colin
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Simmons and those got type of guys. They're phenomenal, some
of the best players you'll see on a football field
in week one, but no one goes out and puts
posters on their walls of defensive linemen. But Ohio State.
Ohio State's gonna have the bigger names, I think by
the end of the year. But Texas might right now
just simply have the most proven superstar types that are
maybe not flashy at the skill positions. Other than Arch maining, you're.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
A well connected guy.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Do you think they actually just figured out who their
starting quarterback is at Ohio State or they've known and
just didn't want to say it.
Speaker 5 (19:21):
They've had an inkling since the spring. But the thing
with coaches is is they legitimately pretty much try to
do a bank slate blank slate when they go into
preseason camp and they try to make sure it's an
even competition, to give them every opportunity to prove themselves
or for that matter, kind of crumble under the pressure.
And there was a moment there in preseason camp where
leacoln Keynolts was able to show something. But it was
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very clear from the teammates and some of the assistant
coaches there that Julian Sane was the more talented guy
higher upside ready to take over. Lincoln was more of
that veteran type, someone you knew probably wouldn't make a mistake,
but it's not going to be as flashy with his arm,
and you know, they just needed to push Julian through
these few weeks of preseason camp and see that he
can handle all the pressure and everything, and he proved himself.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Let's talk about Clemson for a second, because I wonder
if the pendulum is swinging back in a positive way
with with Zabo, because it's he doesn't want to go
and take his out of the portal. He doesn't want
to do all these new a we'll call him new age,
but everybody's doing him now. But then you see last
year he had basically the least amount of kids leave.
So the culture that he's been building at times, which
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was zagging while everybody else zigged, it's either going to
pay off big time this season, right, or he's going
to have to change. I don't know how he manages
and builds a team. Would you say that's accurate?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
Possibly? I will say, like, I think he's evolving a
little bit, like this past year was the first time
he took multiple kids out of the transfer portal. But
you're right, absolutely correct in saying that he has not
been a guy who's leaned onto the portal. In fact,
the only portal guys they were end up getting a
few the last few years were former walk ons, you know,
guys that even had played it previously he was bringing back.
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But the difference with Clemson is that he's brought in
four and five star kids and they've stayed, they're not leaving,
they're not transferring out where. That's happening everywhere else in America,
and as you mentioned, that's straight up culture. And in
this era where I mean most rosters are turning over
at least thirty thirty five guys at the very least,
it's not happening at Clemson. So I think a lot
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of us assume, based off of the way they finished
last year and everybody returning back, that they've got an
edge on everybody else on the schedule, and for that matter,
everybody else in college football because they all know each other,
they've been in the same system for several years. You
don't get that in college football anymore. And they should
be one of the top three or four teams in
the country this season. And the reason why a lot
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of pick people picked them to win the national championship.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Yeah, Penn State at two. How much of that is Drewler.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
I think a lot of that is not necessarily him.
I think a lot of it is just everybody else
that returns around him. And I think the upgrades they've
made a receiver through the transfer portal. They've got a
guy like Trevor Pinn from Syracuse, who is like eleven
hundred twelve hundred yard guy. Remember Penn State, And one
thing that's probably been holding them back is just the
passing game. They can't throw the ball down the field consistently,
and Drew Aller has not been very consistent, especially on
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intermedia and short throws, which is amazing. He'll hit deep throws,
but like the intermediate stuff, the stuff you need those
little chunk plays to keep the ball moving. He has
struggled a little bit. But I think the reason why
Penn State is ranked as high as they are, and
I put him number two in my rankings too, is
that it's because they returned so much much like Ohio
State last year, where they went all in and went
to the transfer portal, got the top players they could,
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and then kept everybody that could have once the NFL
on campus, guys like Nick Dawkins at center, who's incredibly underrated.
They are stacked at Penn State this year, and not
just on the field, but also on the sideline. I
mean they would hire Jim Knowles, the defensive coordinator fresh
off winning a national championship at Ohio State, made him
the highest paid coordinator in the country. So Penn State
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is I mean, if they don't have to tell you,
they're showing you they're all in on this year. They're
pushing in the middle of the table that this is
the year they've got to win the championship.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
We saw the SEC say we're going to play nine
conference games, plus you have to play a game against
a powerful school, and which is some teams are gonna
hapen to do some some restructuring now because you know,
looking at twenty six twenty seven, maybe there aren't enough
P four games outside of the conference, especially when you
have to substitute another conference games.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
So the SEC like they're in.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I'm a homer, but shouldn't there be four guaranteed spots
to the SEC now that we're going nine plus one
P four game.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
That's what the Big ten's arguing. But I think because
of the SEC now deciding to do this nine game schedule,
it's actually going to put more pressure on the Big
Ten to get on board with the other conferences by
not doing the four aqs and the CFP doing a
sixteen team format, but doing so with the five highest
ranked conference champions and eleven at larges. What's been so
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fascinating about this whole playoff debate is that the Big
Ten and SEC at the like director were on the
same page with the four AQ idea for months because
they were a meeting together. Remember they had two big,
kind of hushhot secret of meetings in Nashville and then
also in New Orleans, and they're all on the same page.
But then the moment they got away from each other.
The SEC coaches are like, we like the more at
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largest because we believe if there's more at large spots,
the SEC can get six to seven, maybe even eight
teams into the playoff, Whereas with the Big Ten, it's
a very strong conference at the top. It might be
better than anybody else, but they don't have the one
through sixteen and one through eighteen depth that the SEC has.
So if you go back and look at the averages
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and everything, and I've tried to crunch the math on this,
the SEC is practically going to be ahead of them
every step of the way if it's a five plus eleven,
which means more money for the SEC and less money
for the Big Ten and the Big Ten a lot
of ways they want to do this four AQ thing
because one, of course, you get four teams in every year,
even if you probably don't have a fourth team that
deserves to be in. So that's money. But also it
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allows them to create playoff play in games on their
conference championship weekend, which is an additional two games in
addition to the conference championship game that they can sell
to their TV partners. In addition to giving hope to
other Big Ten teams that are ranked lower, say as
low as number eight, that hey, all we got to
do now is win one game and we get a
playoff spot. That's exciting. That's exciting for fans, it certainly is.
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But in the end, the more important thing is is
that they get the money. And the SEC is kind
of fine with how way everything is right now, and
the other conferences don't want to see the Big Ten
and SEC have committed spots. Because I do this comparison
whenever I hear this, you know, it would be like
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ten years ago the ACC right after they broke the
record for most teams in the NLA Men's Basketball Tournament, saying, hey,
with the new contract with the men's tournament, we want
eight automatic bids every year. The SEC you get three
because based off this rolling average, the last five years,
the SEC has been by far the worst conference in basketball.
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Well fast forward ten years later, if we were under
that format, guess what, The SEC just broke the record
for most teams ever in the Insult Men's Basketball Tournament.
No one thought that was possible ten years ago. So
if they decided to do a contract much like the
college football playoff this year, can you imagine with the
outroar we'd be having right now? Football basketball are different.
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I understand that, But if you were to do this
AQ scenario, you're going to have conferences go absolutely down
the tubes at times year year, three, year seven, something
like that, and you're going to go this league deserves
maybe one or two teams in. They definitely don't deserve four,
and their number eight team definitely doesn't deserve a chance
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by just winning one game in a play in game
to get in. So I very much understand that argument
that we're hearing across college football right now.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Do you think that conference championship games are short lived
now because they need that spot that weekend?
Speaker 5 (27:04):
It depends on who you talk to. The SEC doesn't
want the championship game to go away. The SEC championship game,
I think the other conferences would maybe be okay with
it going away and just going by the regular season
standings and say, you know, Clemson finished No. One in
the ACC, so you're your champion, and then the number
one and number two teams in the standings sit at home,
and then you do two play in games. I don't
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really know what the answer is going to be there,
I pers but personally, I don't want to see conference
championship games go away. I just don't. I think they're exciting.
You don't quite ever know what's going to happen. It
has changed the playoff field. In fact, on championship weekend,
I can remember Michigan State pullowing an upset in the
Big Ten championship to pave the way for Auburn and
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the SEC to get in and back in twenty fourteen.
We just can't. I don't think you can get rid
of those championship games.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
One other question that you're not going to have the
answer to because nobody does. But I've seen you tweet
about it, and I have had thoughts as well as
the SEC says, hey, we're gonna have nine games in conference,
but every team's going to play three specific same teams
every year, and they said they laid out what they
were basing it on, like geography, I think was a
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bit rivalries, and then also they wanted it to be fair,
like balance, and who knows what balance means? The same
thing you just talked about with putting teams into a tournament.
That's what balance is, because you don't know who's going
to be great in five years or who's not.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
But when do we know? And then I don't know.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
I'm just so selfish and thinking about Arkansas that we're
going to get every absolute worst team we could possibly get.
Somehow We're going to play teams Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State not.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
Even in the SEC. Like when are we going to know?
And then what do you I don't know, who do
you think Arkansas plays?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
I think that by November, I'm just guesstimating based off
things I've heard. Probably even build mid season, they're gonna
have a good idea of what the three permanent rivals
are going to be. I don't know if the see
we'll just go ahead announce that, but it will be
based off some formula rolling winning average, whether it's for
the past five years, the past ten years previously when
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they're discussing going to nine games. A few years back,
it was gonna be a ten year rolling average. Who
should Arkansas play? I mean, obviously Texas you got to
put on there. You've got to probably keep one of
the quote unquote trophy games, which is Missouri and LSU.
I would be inclined to believe that it'll end up
being Miszou because LSU is going to want to have
a more of a permanent rivalry game against obviously Old
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miss with a Magnolia ball, and then also Texas A
and M, which has been a big ratings grab for
the SEC here of late. And who that third opponent
would be for Arkansas depends on who you kind of
really talk to, but it probably might end up being
Old miss You know, we'll see. But what they try
to do is if you have a big rivalry game
and they're a top tier team, they try to give
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you a team in the middle and then team near
the bottom. They try to make it all average out
to where your average schedule strength judged by those sixteen
team ranking is about number eight. Right some programs, I'm
not gonna be able to have that satisfaction because like Texas,
I mean their three rivals are Arkansas, Texas and Texas,
A and M and you know, excuse me, and Texas
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is oh you excuse me? You know O you and
A and M is always probably gonna be in the
top half of the conference. So that makes it difficult
for them. Alabama for that matter, heck, Georgia, Georgia's permanent
rivals being Florida and Auburn. I've had some of Auburn
fans going, we want their three permanent rivals to be
what it used to be back in the early nineties,
which was Alabama, Georgia, and Florida. But goodness gracious, that's
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supremely difficult, just based off of what you are accustomed
to seeing with them. But the good news is, I
don't think the three permanent rivalry thing is a big
deal because you're gonna have six other teams on the
schedule every year, and you're gonna play every team in
the in the conference. Based off of that, like every
every two four years in a four year old in average,
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you're gonna play every team in the SEC. So you're
just gonna have some seasons they're gonna be more difficult
than others, and you're gonna have some that are that
are easier, and it's not necessarily because of those three
permanent rivals. It can depend on how those teams rotate
on the six and six.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I have a worst case scenario that Tennessee gets Kentucky
and Vanderbilt, both, which they probably should.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
That sucks. They shouldn't get those two teams. Nobody should
get those two teams together.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
I don't think they'll get Kentucky. I think they'll get
Vandy just because of the quote unquote in state stuff.
But I don't think they'll get Kentucky. I think Kentucky's
gonna get matched up a lot potentially with the three
just base offers. Also on previous scheduling things South Carolina
Mississippi State, for example, because Kentucky does not have a
rival in the SEC, their only rival out of the
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courses in the ACC and Louisville. I don't think there's
going to be a schedule where you look at and go,
oh my gosh, their three rivals are so easy. I
think it's gona the opposite. You're gonna look at two
or three teams go wow, those are supremely difficult, whereas
everybody else is going to be pretty comparable.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
All right, final question, my assumption is, and you may
not have, but my assumption is you watched any given
Saturday or on Netflix the SEC show.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
No, you did it.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
So here's what I thought.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
I thought, Either you're like me where I avoid all
music when I'm not working in music, like I avoid
all music. And I didn't watch it at all for
weeks because I didn't want to like teams I.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Don't like like mine was all.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
I don't want to watch a coach or a team
or a fan base I can't stand and find myself
pulling for them. And I decided I wasn't gonna watch it,
didn't want to be involved in it. My father in law,
massive ou fan, was over and we would get one
on a vacation to like East Tennessee, and we're like, well,
what do we do?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
And we turned it on.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
It was great.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I didn't plan to watch it. Yeah, I loved it.
I didn't want to love it. I wanted to not
like it and not watch it. After the first episode,
I came away, since you this is not your opinion.
I came on liking Brian Kelly way less than I
already liked him, and I didn't like him much to
begin with. Have you spend any time around him?
Speaker 2 (32:58):
And is he just cold?
Speaker 5 (33:00):
He's cold. He is a cold guy. It is what
it is. Everybody's different, but he's definitely a cold guy.
I don't watched the documentary, but he's just he tries
to turn it on and even then it's like trying
to start a start an old car in the winter,
cold in the morning. It's just this chuck. You're like, dude,
that's not you. But that's good to hear. It's good.
(33:21):
I just I've been one. I'm so busy, I say,
I'm so abu I can't watch it. I'm actually watching
the Dallas Cowboys one right now on Netflix. I'm really
enjoying that. And I just I didn't want to do
the SEC one because I thought I wasn't it produced
by the SEC. So like whenever I see someone that
like they have a big stake in it and they're
like they can edit things in and are out or whatever,
So I'm always hesitant to look into that stuff, especially
(33:44):
like because all these schools have these amazing like in
house video productions. Now they do their own documentaries, and
I don't watch them all because they're they're gonna cut
stuff out that might be controversial, but I guess the
sec one they leave some stuff in they do.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
I'm gonna tell you who I would like to play for.
By the way, I wish I could just play, like
I alwish I was good enough to play.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
But by watching this, who I want to play for.
Number one is freaking Clark Lee at Vanderbilt. Like if
you put a wall up and he goes go, I'm
running through it. And I already felt like I really
liked him anyway, because I got a chance to know
him when I was touring. He came out and did
a show with me, Like I like him as a person,
but watching him and his interactions and how he works
with that team, his vein pops out in his head
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like that dude is intense.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Yeah. I remember I was at a coaches convention. He
was giving a big speech in front of all the coaches,
and he had a slide show up and he was
showing pictures of a certain NFL team that used their
facilities at Vanderbilt during the playoffs to practice, and they
pretty much wrecked Vanderbilt's locker room. Didn't clean up after
themselves or whatever, and he showed the pictures of it
(34:49):
and what the way Clark Lee reacted to it and
telling the players about how he goes see this, they
don't even respect you, and no one respects you. No
one respects Vanderbilt. You know what we you going to
do about it? And obviously I'm surmising and putting everything
together there, but the way he put it across showing
that picture is phenomenal. I mean, this guy is the
ultimate I want to say motivated. He's also the ultimate
(35:10):
like tactician and building things. He's a type of guy
like if I had a new company and he met
handling millions of dollars and everything. He's someone that I
would not be reluctant to hire to lead that.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, he was awesome.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
I think my favorite coach, just like as a person
is probably Shane Beemer because he's aught again. Have been
able to spend some time with him, been very fortunate.
I love him as a dude and then watch him him.
Your thoughts on Shane Biemer.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Yeah, he's authentic. I'm exactly exactly the same way. I've
spent a couple of days around him. I went down
and over there in Colombia and then spent an entire
day with him, followed him everywhere. I was standing outside
the bathroom even I was following him waiting for him
to come out. I mean, he's fantastic. And then you
know the stories you hear from him about growing up
around his dad and wanting to be a coach because
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his father. And then you see him on the field
during games he's got his son with him just so
he makes sure his son can enjoy the big moments
with him, just like he did with his dad. I mean,
it's all genuine. He's not like trying to get on
camera or anything. The guy when the camera's off, he'll
sit there and talk to you forever. It doesn't matter
who you are. I saw him doing it at a
practice once, talking to someone that was just they're visiting
(36:18):
with some family member, asking about on what they do.
I mean, there are a lot of people like that
in this world, but not a lot of them that
are you know, head coaches or people that have fifty
thousand people tugging them different ways every day.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
And then the last one that I have interest in
now and then we can wrap this is Jeff Leby
Atsissippi State, which I didn't know much about him other
than my family's from Oklahoma. He went to Oklahoma, came
back to Oklahoma and was a coordinator before also has
bounced around a bit and his growth, but went to
Mississippi State. Like, I like the dude from watching this,
but I don't know enough about him. What are your
(36:51):
thoughts on him?
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I don't know anything about him either, Yeah, I don't.
I haven't spent any time around him. He was at
Ou for not very long. Actually, he's more or less
and he's from that Art Brill's tree with Kendall Briles
is where at Baylor. The first I ever heard his
name come up was actually with some type of actually
(37:12):
some sideline scandal. He was at someone else's game on
the sideline and they're like, you can't be here, are
you scouting? It's the rules. It was almost like a
mini Michigan thing or whatever. And he got a little
hot water over that. You know, that Brill Circle, especially
just with coaching, just coaching, like their offense and the
raid they do things like no one like there's like
(37:33):
maybe eight people on earth who actually know what that
playbook looks like because it keeps such a tight circle,
Like you don't see them at coaching clinics, going here's
my playbook, guys, here's some good things that we're on.
Here's some ideas. They don't do that. They're very secretive
about that stuff, and I don't know. Maybe that's why
I haven't really got to know him. But he's only
been there for a year and a half.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
So we'll see, all right, Brandon Marcelo follow him on
Instagram at Brandon Marcelo killing it right now. Just feel
fortunate when we get you on now that you're growing,
now that you're a superstar. It's like, can we get
Brandon to come on the show? So we knew you
in we knew you in Brandon.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Well, no, I appreciate, Bobby, I'm not a superstar. Just
love what I do.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Man, Yeah, you're great at it. There is Brandon Marcelo. Brandon,
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Speaker 1 (39:47):
Have this list of the top ten hardest positions in sports. Okay,
so they factor in all sports major sports, football, baseball, basketball, soccer, hockey, golf.
I guess golf doesn't have positions.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
No, you're just a player.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, So what I have here is the top ten
hardest positions in sports. Kevin and Eddie, we'll take turns,
and the higher up the list, and more points you get. Okay, Kevin,
quarterback quarterback comes in. So here's what we'll do. The
person with the least amount of points wins. It'll be
like golf.
Speaker 8 (40:26):
Because number one gets the lowest money points.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
Right, I got it.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Okay, what do you say?
Speaker 8 (40:30):
Quarterback?
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Quarterback comes in at number six, So Kevin with six points?
Speaker 6 (40:36):
Okay, I'm gonna go goalie.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Goalie in soccer at number three, good one, Eddie with
three points, okay, Kevin, corner.
Speaker 6 (40:51):
Back tough position, Yes, it is.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
It is tough. Hard's the hardest I know, because you're
having a judge and guess what another supreme athletes.
Speaker 6 (41:01):
Doing in front of you, and you're kind of running backwards.
He's got the advantage.
Speaker 8 (41:05):
It's especially these days and the rules and stuff.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
And also when people are like, oh, you play cornerback
and somebody else here's it and thinks you're a quarterback
and to be like, no corner it's also like a
slight Yeah, cornerback at number five, tough list. So we
have goalkeeper, socker quarterback in cornerback five and six. Aie.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
I'm gonna go with the picture in baseball.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Picture makes the list. Picture comes in at number eight,
so it's even right now. Eleven to Eleven's go.
Speaker 8 (41:42):
Hey, now I'm gonna say goalie in hockey number two.
Speaker 6 (41:46):
Wow, the job big one.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Five still up on the board, Eddie.
Speaker 6 (41:53):
I'm gonna go with the big man position in basketball,
the center. It's a lot to cover that paint. Man,
It's tough.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Bobby's you know, you look left.
Speaker 6 (42:04):
You look right. Oh no, I I get the rebound.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Didn't make the didn't make the list. So that's one strike.
H three xes though you lose, Kevin over to you.
I'm gonna go catcher baseball, catcher number one. Maybe that's so.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
Hard about catcher, Dude, you got to call the game.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
You gotta always be.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
They got it down, they got little ear things. Now, little.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Kevin, I don't know that you can be beat ye
at this point, maybe anybody you have. So we have
catcher at one the hardest positions in sports, the hockey
goalie at two, the goalkeeper in soccer at three, cornerback
at five, quarterback at six, pitcher at eight, first baseman.
(42:54):
That's the easiest position in the end, coming at the
best hitter who can't really play in film. Okay, correct,
two strikes, Kevin. I'm gonna go point guard number nine.
Point right, there you go. It's the easiest, Eddie. One more, Oh,
I got it. Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (43:16):
When I said center, I meant the center in football.
God's brutal, dude. You start looking down and then you
gotta look up.
Speaker 9 (43:21):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
It's a good one, actually, though incorrect, Eddie, you've been eliminated.
There are one, two, three things left. Kevin, you've already
won the game. But let's se how when you can
get into the three left? You haven't missed anything. So catcher, goalie, goalie,
corner of quarterback, pitcher, point guard. I don't really know
(43:43):
any somebody said picture.
Speaker 6 (43:44):
Right, Yeah, I said picture, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Easy, buddy, one of the two you got?
Speaker 8 (43:49):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna take a shot here in soccer
and just say.
Speaker 6 (43:53):
Midfielder, what's so hard about that?
Speaker 8 (43:55):
I don't even know. I just know it's position.
Speaker 6 (43:57):
They do not run NonStop, NonStop.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
No, it didn't make it okay. You should have two
strikes to play with.
Speaker 8 (44:08):
Centerfielder.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
No, I think I know it. If you're out, if
he's not out, he's got one. More so the Brandon,
The hardest one is four. There's four, seven and ten left.
Speaker 8 (44:25):
Let's keep baseball here. Let's say third baseman.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
No, it's gonna go around the diamond.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah no, didn't you did win though graduation?
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (44:34):
I think I lost.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
It felt like a win.
Speaker 6 (44:39):
You only get two, That's what I'm saying. Like it
wasn't really much of a match, Brandon, What.
Speaker 1 (44:42):
Do you think I was gonna say? Third baseman? No, shortstop, okay,
short stop, short stopper, third basement, No, you can't do
or or.
Speaker 8 (44:51):
No, the same position basically somewhere in the middlefield or something.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Okay, you have two left, you have seven and ten?
Uh ten is probably not something I would have ever
guessed in a million years. It is from hockey, though,
oh the enforcer, the defender, and I don't know that
I would have ever even guessed that was a position,
because I know we have skaters, we have stickers, golders,
that's it, and fighters.
Speaker 6 (45:14):
Four positions pretty much.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
Yeah, not a big hockey guy. There's one position left.
It's number seven one one position in sports. It's a
football position.
Speaker 8 (45:24):
Anybody guess safety, kicker.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Anything, mister Brandon, defensive end all wrong, or even the
kickers all wrong, even the kicker, you can't believe it.
Speaker 6 (45:42):
High pressure position, running back mm hmmy the punter.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
Now, you can all take turns till somebody gets it.
Left tackle correct, That's that's what I meant.
Speaker 6 (45:54):
Why Why is that harder than the right tackle?
Speaker 1 (45:56):
You gotta protect the quarterbacks blind side.
Speaker 6 (45:58):
Maybe he's a if he's a lefty, no, what if if?
Speaker 8 (46:03):
It's okay, right tackle, But generally speaking, you got Dylan
Gabriel back there.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, Okay, that's why that position is so important.
Speaker 6 (46:13):
I learned something today. What did you learn that that
the right tackle is very important.
Speaker 1 (46:17):
There's this whole article about what happens to your body
if you don't go to sleep, which I find fascinating
because I have this unhealthy relationship with sleep. And so
here we go. This doctor, doctor Michael Gardner, has laid
out what can happen to your body after a prolong
lack of sleep twenty four hours. I think we've probably
all done that. Yeah, as a kid and even occasionally
(46:38):
as an adult, either you party or you work, and
it's like, well, I can't go to sleep, might as
well stay awake twenty four hours. Cognitive impairment and reduced
reaction time can set in, similar to having a blood
alcohol level of point zero one. So point zero eight
is what you get busted for the UIDWI. But a
question for you guys. If you go to Vegas and
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let's say you stay out till two or three four
o'clock in the morning and you have a six o'clock flight,
do you try to get a couple of hours sleep
or do you just roll it and Stay up.
Speaker 8 (47:05):
Kevin, Stay up, especially in Vegas, because because what's the
point at that point, Like you have stuff to do?
If you're in like some random city somewhere else and
you're like, well do I just sit here in the
hotel room? I have nothing to do? But in Vegas
you can sell the tables, you can go to a club,
you can do all kinds of stuff in Vegas to
keep you up.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Okay, Eddie, what would you do?
Speaker 6 (47:26):
Stay up? I've been burned too many times where like
I'm like, I'm just gonna take a two hour nap
and I and I missed my flight.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yep, Oh, I don't think I don't want drink myself.
I've never missed a flight, dude.
Speaker 6 (47:35):
It's it's the worst feeling of like just two hours.
It's never. You're never. If you are drinking all night
and you go to bed at three, you're not just
gonna get two hours of sleep. You're gonna get ten.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
I think it's no surprise. Then I get a couple
of hours.
Speaker 6 (47:49):
Sleep because you weren't drinking.
Speaker 1 (47:51):
Yeah, And I'm just like I got a couple hours.
I'm as well get a couple and then I can sleep.
Also on the plane. M hm, So I would always
get that couple of hours. If I can get it,
what do you do? I'd probably stay up. But I
haven't been to Vegas in a while, so I usually
i'd be in bed by nine. Not part of the equation.
Speaker 6 (48:09):
Yeah, stay up.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (48:13):
I did this in Toronto once, where I went to
bed at three in the morning, had to get up
a finer National traveler.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
No, I believe, You'll never believe what I do.
Speaker 8 (48:23):
Go ahead, And I woke up still like wasted, felt
like I didn't even drink or sleep in a minute.
And I threw up five times on the plane rightt home.
It was the worst flight of my life. So that's
also why I probably would stay up.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
You threw up five five times? Is that common? If
you're throwing up, it's a lot. I thought it was
just once if you like throw it.
Speaker 8 (48:39):
Because I mean, if you're that hungover and you're that sick.
It was like my fourth day of drinking straight.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Too, so it all factor that'll do. But you are
you okay?
Speaker 5 (48:48):
No?
Speaker 6 (48:49):
You ever heard of Hair of the Dog?
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Yeah, so like in many ways, yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (48:53):
Hair of the Dog drinking is just like you know
what I feel like terrible, But I'm just gonna keep
drinking so I don't have a hangover. Yeah, and you
keep doing that, like I been saying four days in
a row, dude, that you do that, it bites you
in the butt.
Speaker 8 (49:03):
And then your body just detoss it detoxes itself like
it wants to get everything out of you. So just
throws it all up for you.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Hmm. Hair of the dog can be used in a
bunch of ways, but I feel.
Speaker 6 (49:13):
Yeah, I've only used in that drinking. Hey boy, screw it,
ha ha.
Speaker 8 (49:16):
Yeah, what's another way?
Speaker 6 (49:17):
Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Really, it's if anything's happening. Uh, let's see. Let me
that's my sister. Oh see what she says, because I've
often said use that, which mean just do more of it.
If you're hurting from not doing it anymore, just do
more of it to kind of raise your back, get
you back in.
Speaker 6 (49:34):
Okay, you can do that working out then, I guess right.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
So for so well, now for soreness, it's like I'm
super sore. Let me get a little hair of the dog,
get back in and do it. Do some squats, kind
of get into a little bit. That's a good example.
I couldn't really think of one after I said, I
so that screwed. I would do this secon story anyway.
Thirty six to forty eight hours of no sleep? Anyone
ever been that long without sleep? Have you ever done
two full days?
Speaker 6 (49:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (49:59):
I don't think I have either. No, never two full days.
Physical and cognitive performance continues to slump. You might even
experience micro sleeps, which means you don't mean to fall asleep,
and you're not physically falling asleep, except there are these
brief periods where you don't even realize you're asleep. I
think Casey has that right now. Whoa seventy two hours
(50:23):
Hallucinizations can escalate to extreme paranoia, and long term complications
could be on the horizon. Whoa horizon three days of
not sleeping you It would be fun to hallucinate if
you could somehow snap out of them, meaning, okay, I
will do this to myself. I'll hallucinate LSD like something
like a drug like that which I don't know. Do
(50:44):
you ever do that while youre in Toronto?
Speaker 8 (50:46):
N in Toronto?
Speaker 1 (50:47):
Okay? Where it's like that would be interesting. It's fun
to try if for some reason you can just like
shock yourself and get out of it immediately once to
start it did not feel safe, but it feels like
those when you hallucinate. You really have no control when
you're gonna.
Speaker 6 (50:59):
Get back no way. Yeah, in that like when sailors
say they saw mermaids.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
That's just because they've been out.
Speaker 6 (51:06):
Yeah, sure, never they were lost at sea, Yeah, freaking
out or in the desert.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
Yeah, like the mirage. No, no, ninety six hours or more.
Your memory could start resembling that if someone who has
Alzheimer's and your perception reality could be distorted into something
resembling psychosis. And then I think you just.
Speaker 6 (51:26):
Die if you were if you were lost in like
in the desert. Do you think you would sleep?
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Ever lost?
Speaker 6 (51:33):
You may not ever get found. You think you're gonna die?
Would you sleep?
Speaker 1 (51:37):
Probably? Because because I think, are you asking would my
body allow me to or what I want to know?
Speaker 6 (51:42):
Would you want to Yes?
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Because I would need to recharge in order to keep going.
You have a limited time of being able to go
until your body needs sleep. And sure I may never
but I'm gonna need that recharge in order to keep trying.
Speaker 6 (51:54):
Yeah, I'd be like it's the best part, Like I'm
just gonna sleep, man, They're not gonna find me anyway.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
It's the best part.
Speaker 6 (52:01):
I'm just gonna fall asleep.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
Is there any other good favorite part about being lost
in the desert.
Speaker 6 (52:05):
I love sleep so much. They would be like, I'm
just gonna sleep, like they're not gonna find me anyway.
And if I die, I die.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
I don't think that would be the case. They it'd
be hard to sleep if you think you might die. Also,
in the desert, what may come and get you. There's
not a lot of like organic matter out there. You know,
we'll wear wolves.
Speaker 6 (52:21):
Those are real side sidewinder snakes well.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
And also if I'm having looten to hallucinations, hallucinations, yeah,
the were wolves. Now, yes, Mike. What was the story
about the guy who live streamed and he died? Do
you ever see that?
Speaker 7 (52:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (52:39):
It was like I can ask my assistant, but he
like live streamed so long just stay awake and ended
up dying on the live stream. I'm pretty sure unless
that's urban legend. Sometimes I've been caught up urban legend.
Speaker 6 (52:50):
Sure, people talk.
Speaker 7 (52:51):
I think if the urban legend was correc because Heartlet
gave out.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
What's the story of the person who stayed up a
long time, as in didn't sleep and he was on
a live stream and died.
Speaker 9 (53:01):
Yeah, so that story actually kind of a cautionary tale
that's been teared around a lot. The person you might
be thinking of is tied to a sort of internet legend.
There have been a few different stories, but probably the
most known one is about a guy who tried to
break a record for staying awake and was live streaming
it and then he ended up passing away from what
was essentially sleep deprivation and strain it put on his
(53:23):
heart and body. It's a bit of an urban myth
in some wheres because there are a few versions of
the story floating around, but the core idea is going
with how it's sleep for extreme lengths of time, it
is really dangerous, and it's one of those stories that
kind of circulates as a warning. So it's definitely a
bit of a dark tail.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
What do you think or what has been the urban
legend on the amount of hours he stayed awake?
Speaker 9 (53:43):
Yeah, so the legend usually goes that he stayed awake
for something like eleven days straight, so around two hundred
and sixty to two hundred and seventy hours, which is
kind of the classic number that floats around.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
It's actually a.
Speaker 9 (53:54):
Number that's kind of based on a real record attempt
by someone named Randy Gardner back in the nineteen sixties
who actually did a wood for a love is as
part of a science experiment. But in the urban legend
version it's more dramatic and it ends tragically because he
was live streaming and never select and then passed away.
But yeah, the number that usually gets thrown around is
about eleveed A's what you do is.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
You have a twin nice switching out. You switch them.
Speaker 6 (54:20):
Out how on the live stream, like I'm gonna go
to the restroom real quick.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
You fall down, and then all of a sudden they
come out. They come out of the floor.
Speaker 6 (54:27):
Sorry I swiped.
Speaker 8 (54:28):
I got twins.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
Yeah, we do it.
Speaker 6 (54:32):
One's a boy and one's a girl.
Speaker 8 (54:33):
We'll never know.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
Dress them the same. Keep those babies up for days.
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That's gonna do it for this week, Eddie, get better, Eddie.
He should be better by it later on this week,
although we have to go. Eddie and I are supposed
to go down to Savannah, Georgia on Thursday when we
take this. He's supposed to shoot a bunch of content
because that is where the Hyundai plant is make the cars.
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So we're gonna go down shooting content for Hunday.
Speaker 1 (56:42):
But if he's sick, because Amy's been sick for two
weeks and she's finally back tomorrow Tuesday. In the show Brandon,
we have to call you in, call you from the
dugout to come shoot content down in Georgia. Uh yeah,
get better Eddie, although Eddie won't listen to this, Get
better Eddie.
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Thank you guys, Thanks for Brandon Marcello. We will see
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Theme song written by Bobby Bones That's Me and performed
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Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music.
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You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bones Sports.
Thanks to our crew co host at, producer Eddie, Segment
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Bobby Bones.
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