Lots to Say: 3x Super Bowl Champion LeGarrette Blount and Week 10!

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got lots just say, we got lots to save.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
What backer here?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
And we hope you say because we.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Got lots to say, Yeah, we got.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Lots to say.

Speaker 5 (00:31):
Here's that.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
I'm holding a football and it's an Arkansas raised by football.

Speaker 6 (00:37):
I just keep it around.

Speaker 7 (00:38):
Well what's part holding football or the.

Speaker 8 (00:41):
Back?

Speaker 7 (00:42):
And so I'm holding it as I normally do. The
Castle is like, let me see your grip.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Now, I didn't move my grip, so I have you uh,
you can comment on it without me changing it from
we talked about earlier.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
So you've got one finger on the lace. I've got
two two too, yeah yeah yeah, two fingers on the lights.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
I got the pinky on like the third yep, my
natural Where where would you? This is where it is
with the camera. So if I were just grabbing it
throwing it, that's it. Okay, how would you hold it?

Speaker 4 (01:10):
So I would usually hold it?

Speaker 7 (01:14):
You big hands? Not that big bro.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
I mean some of these guys like yeah, but I'm
saying I mean Carson Palmer's hand would go like all
the way over the ball. It was the craziest thing.
So I would I mean, I'd hold it here second
lace all the way down, and then every now and
then when it get like wet outside, I'd go down
to get a little bit more of the ball on
like the third lace, which is very uncommon because a

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lot of guys like they do, whether it's Stafford or Brady,
and these guys they hold that, they hold it here
on this last lace with their third fingers.

Speaker 7 (01:47):
That pinky is going so far down the laces, like
when I hold it and you're right here, right, yeah,
you're like, yeah, let me get more of that, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
I don't need that pinky, you know, with that wrist.
It didn't take much pink for me. Let me see
the l yeah for me, it's right here. Yeah anyway, Yeah,
your hands are huge, and I'm not a small man,
a promise.

Speaker 7 (02:06):
I'm not small. I'm like six foot and a half
my licenses six to one.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
I'm about one seventy five and so you know, a
little taller than that in shape.

Speaker 7 (02:16):
Thank you appreciate that mobile quarterback. Did they measure your hands?

Speaker 5 (02:20):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (02:21):
That was great.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
They never measured mine because of usc pro day, for
whatever reason, I don't think that they measured my hands,
or maybe they did.

Speaker 7 (02:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
They ran out of time because they are all right, guy,
let's go. We gotta go run forties. We gotta go
run forties.

Speaker 7 (02:33):
Let's go. We don't care about your hands, all right. Question.
So we're going into week ten, right, that's next next week? Yep?
When do people get tired?

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Like one of the players, what week is it where
you're starting to not just make sure you're not injured
or take care of your injuries, but you're battling the
first stages of like season fatigue.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Well, it's hard to say because I think for every
team it's based on how the season's gone, because there's
fatigue that sets in when you're not when you're a
struggling football team, even in the first half of the season,
you know you've got so much more full all left
and you can turn the season around. But when you
start stacking losses and their difficult losses to take, that

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creates a little fatigue because the building feels that. The
Mondays feel different. You come in, everybody's a little bit
more on edge. The coaches are coaching you harder. The
little minute mistakes that you might have made after a
victory where they let it slide. Those are harped on
and it's just the mental grind of getting through the
difficulty of losing games. Because coaches obviously their jobs on

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the line, your jobs on the line. So I'd say
that there's more mental fatigue in those type of situations,
and it's turning those negatives into positive and having a
positive mind frame moving forward, giving hope, giving them motivation,
the team motivation. I'm saying that, hey, guys, look, if
we just go out and take care of business this
next what is it eight games left that we're going
to be, we can turn the season around. But that's

(04:00):
sometimes more difficult, easier said than done, I guess, is
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
So football stress is fatigue the same as life stress
to us as fatigue, right dang.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
I mean, I mean, because think about it. You cowboys
are so tired, then they're so tired. The towns cowboys
are exhausted. They're exhausted because when you're winning ball games,
I mean, you you walk into building, the black coffee
that they serve there, that just tastes a little bit better, right,
Everything feels a little bit better. People are in a
good mood like, hey, yeah, a lot more smiles. Now,

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there's still work to be done, But there's a confidence
that comes with winning. There's a morale boost that comes
with winning games. Even if you win a game like
Chicago did the other day, coming from behind, and you know,
it was just the most absurd win you've ever seen,
probably the most absurd football game I've ever seen. But
at the same day, the time you walked away with

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a win, and so you can you can build on
that and move forward in the right direction.

Speaker 7 (04:57):
So it's it's like you said, it's like life.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
When you're dealing with stress and your things aren't going well,
it's sometimes more difficult. But when things are going well
and you're winning ball games, even if it's by the
smallest of margin, that's your job.

Speaker 7 (05:11):
I don't even know. Have the Jets are getting out
of bed.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Boys, there's quite a few out there.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
One other question about that, do you tend to get
injured a little more or is the severity of.

Speaker 7 (05:23):
An injury a little more when you're.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Having a bad season, meaning the player just decides it
hurts a little worse than it really does because this
year sucks.

Speaker 7 (05:32):
Anyway, I can't speak for other people.

Speaker 4 (05:35):
I mean, I've never took on that mentality of trying
to get out, Like we got ourselves into this, we
got to battle our way out. And your job as
a professional, they're paying you to go out there and
play ball games, and as difficult as it gets is
the adversity strikes and all that stuff, you got to
keep going out there and grinding. And it's not just
for myself, it's for my team and my teammates. So

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I've got too much respect for those guys in the
locker room that I would never sit there and be like, oh, yeah,
this ankle sprain, I need another three weeks out, you know,
even though that's going to be a thing for some people.
For some people, I think that it is a thing.
That hamstring that was you know, supposed to be is
mild hamstring. Two to three weeks it ends up being
four to five. And you're like, really, you're not ready yet. No, No,

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you guys are the ones losing. It's not me, it's
you guys. All Right, we're gonna go back and forth.
Let's do a couple.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
We have Legarrett Blunt coming up in just a little bit,
but I want to go first with the MVP race,
and so I've got five four three two one. Now
Draft Kings has given us the odds. Here the latest
Draft Kings MVP rankings. At number five, Baker Mayfield, Uh,
dead to buy this past week. They do have a
game coming up. They got a pretty big one this
week coming up.

Speaker 7 (06:42):
Yes they do. It's them of the Pats, right, yep, yeah, yep.
That's a big one for both teams. Yeah, teams very big.
Baker Mayfield at five, Matthew Stafford at.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Four, matt Stafford at four. Huh, he went twenty four
to thirty two for I want to argue that he
could be in four touchdowns the front runner.

Speaker 7 (06:57):
Okay, I'd like to hear that. Sorry, I don't mean
to interrupt you. You did.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
I mean that I wasn't even through even that the Stafford?
So sorry, Yeah, okay, you know him. Let's let's say
let's turnover.

Speaker 7 (07:07):
Oh, Matthew, I played with him. We get it was
gonna say that. Yeah you did though, all right?

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Number three Drake may uh nineteen for twenty nine, two
sixty and two touchdowns.

Speaker 7 (07:18):
Hey, how'd you feel about Drake man? That you? I
know you were dialed into that game, Kevin.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, he had a couple of bad plays, which he
hasn't done since probably Week three, so he was kind
of due for one.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
But it was up and down.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Definitely not the Drake May that we've seen from weeks
four through seven or eight.

Speaker 7 (07:34):
You're gonna have downs, Isn't it nice?

Speaker 8 (07:37):
Though?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
That that down was a W and it wasn't a
complete cliff drop off. You like your downs. You know
who had a down is Daniel Like that's a real down.

Speaker 7 (07:47):
So yeah, downy. So that's a very time day.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
It was nice to see a Drake May down day
end in the W and him still playing pretty solid, right.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, because the last five years the Patriots would have
lost that game every single time.

Speaker 7 (07:59):
Yeah. Right.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
And his turn the biggest turnover was at the end
of the first half. But he's still like you could
tell he was still trying to come back from that
but not doing too much.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
He still played okay, he just had two dumb plays.

Speaker 7 (08:11):
You see you see Braybel pumping up on the sidelines. Yeah,
firing up. I mean that.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
I love the fact though he's not going to be perfect,
and no quarterback is in this league, but you're able
to make some mistakes, but still play consistently enough to
put your team in a position to win and the
defense to come through at the end.

Speaker 7 (08:27):
That was big as well.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
So their team's playing really well and that was a
big win, especially when you're not playing as good or
MVP type as you've been the last what five six
weeks of the season.

Speaker 7 (08:39):
Right Also, Atlanta's got a pretty good defense. They do.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, the one thing that's concerning right now is the
sacks the Patriots are giving up because last week.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Was Miles Garrett doesn't count though. You can't do that.
I know, I get it. He's switching tackles, he's running
over both guys. That's Miles Garrett.

Speaker 8 (08:54):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
You cannot put that in the equation. I'm just not
you can't. I guess the problem.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Strip rookies and the strip sack was a meeting at
the quarterback where he was so caught off guard. It
was like a race to the quarterback on both sides
that they strip sack and return for a touchdown.

Speaker 7 (09:09):
Right.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
Oh close, they did score, but they close to it.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
I just will not allow you to compare Miles Garret
to anybody else. Fair number two Patrick Mahomes. Number one
is Josh Allen, and I think those two would have been.
Number one is gonna be whoever wins that game, and
Josh Allen happened to win the game, which, by the way,
it does seem and I had to look it up
to see, but it does seem like the Bills have
won a whole lot more of the end season games,
and obviously the Chiefs are winning a whole lot more

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of the postseason games. And it was it's five, they're
five and one. Yeah, the Bills in season five and
one against the Chiefs.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
And I wonder what their record is and post I.

Speaker 6 (09:44):
Mean four I believe, Yeah, Josh Allen's never beat them.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
That game has to be like for Josh Allen, for
Patrick Mahomes, it's got to be like, if you're Josh Allen, Okay,
I'm glad we won, but yeah, I mean we always win.
And then for Patrick Mahomes, gotta be like, okay, huh,
I mean we typically we lose these, so okay, that's okay,
We'll see you again. That was a fun ish game.

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The Bills were runn away with it and it was
gonna get ugly quick. Cantony made a nice little run.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
It was amazing that they were actually in the game
the way that they were. I agree at the end
because I felt like the Bills dominated time with possession,
they ran the ball effectively. They just got after Mahomes.
Mahomes was hit like seventeen times in that game, I mean,
and they pressured him consistently, so it never felt like
Buffalo wasn't in control. But then you go to the

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end of the game and they have the ball back
with an opportunity to go down and potentially tie the
ball game.

Speaker 7 (10:40):
And that's what's mind boggling about the Chiefs.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Even when they're not playing well or they're getting dominated,
they're never.

Speaker 7 (10:45):
Out of the fight.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
That's second to last till Mary because he throws one
I believe on third and fourth down or was the
last two depending on the time, that was almost caught
off the deflection because he throws in the end zone.
I think it's Thompson who hits it and the ball
is up and again it was either.

Speaker 7 (11:04):
Ris or Hollywood.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
It's probably Rashid Rice like he's a second away from
catching that ball.

Speaker 7 (11:10):
On this collection.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
The last one wasn't near as close, But you're right.
The Chiefs are like always in it. And then you
go back to the game when they won with only
thirteen seconds left, and so you're going, yeah, they might actually.

Speaker 7 (11:20):
Actually do it again. They might tie the ball game,
and it might go Josh Allen, is your favorite for MVP?
That is my first topic of the day? Yours?

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Well, it's kind of the segue would probably be right
off that. I was listening to the Sports show the
other day and it was Nick Right. Nick writes a
big Kansas City Chiefs fan, and I think the guy's brilliant.
But he said something kind of to your point about, look,
the Chiefs don't care if they lose this game because
they know they'll meet him now. But he suggested that

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the Chiefs were potentially holding back plays, not showing everything
during this game because they know that they're going to
meet him down. They just still want to show them.
But I thought it was the most absurd take. And
I'm just saying that because well I thought this was
the most absurd take.

Speaker 7 (12:03):
Get ready to clip this one, boy there.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
If they're five and three team right now, and I'm
not saying, look, they've been on a roll, they've been,
but this game meant something because now you're five and
four and there's no guarantees that you're gonna go run
the table, even though, look, I think the Chiefs are
gonna win a lot of a lot of games on
the street stretch. But in addition to that, do you
think Andy Reid is legitimately sitting there going, hey, you know,

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we could put Patrick in a better position right here
if we ran this play, but let's hold this for playoffs.
Or we have this one play that we maybe we
can get a touchdown, but if we don't, it doesn't
really matter if we win this game. I don't think
any coach has the mentality of going into a game
and saying, let's not have all the bullets that we
need to win the game. That it just was a

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take that I was blown away coming from coming from him.
But I think part of it was the understanding that, Okay,
they'll probably meet down the road, but nobody's holding plays back.

Speaker 7 (13:02):
Nobody's not going out there to win the game.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
And I just don't think that anybody would go into
a game and not put their best product out on
the field just to hold back for the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Do you think a bit of it is him being
a homer, a big Kansas City homer, and he really
doesn't want to feel in his heart that they tried
as hard as they could and still lost.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
I think there's part of that, I really do, because
if you have the belief in your mind that oh,
they held back plays and they're just waiting to get
them down the road, it's one thing. But with the
record being what it is, and also primetime matchup against
an opponent that's in the AFC that will maybe have
an impact later on for playoffs, I just I found
it found it to be just a ridiculous comment.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
Have I told you have I told him our recent
neck right? Sorry?

Speaker 9 (13:45):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (13:45):
Recent?

Speaker 7 (13:47):
No? Okay.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
So I go to dinner with Nick Wright like three
weeks ago, okay, and.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
I haven't told you this, no, because we were all
in New York. Yeah you left us. Yeah, let's look,
I got a bigger deal than.

Speaker 7 (13:59):
No no no no no no no. And you guys could
find it earlier on the Ark.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
My agent is Nick or agent, and Ariel Hawane, who
is the big fight guy, massive guy.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
I didn't know who was going to be at this thing,
and so I get there.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
My agent's like, hey, this is Nick obviously I know
of Nick right, had never met him, and I'd seen
a bunch of clubs Burial and so we're sitting at
a table and it's all of us. And what sucked
is I'm black toes, intolerant. We're an Italian restaurant. I
can't have anything the beat carpaccio please.

Speaker 8 (14:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
And so we're there and we were talking just about
podcasts and stuff, and he had mentioned that he had
been invited. I said, did you know Matt Castle back
in Kansas City? And he said yeah, And he was
very apologetic in that he thinks he was probably the
guy who was a little too brash, going a little

(14:54):
too hard, that it wasn't just towards you, that it
was towards everybody. But he did say that he was
like it was probably a little too hard on him
because I was just like that. I was just shot
out of a cannon, paraphrasing him. And he's said, you
know what, I got invited to do his podcast the
other day, and I turned it down because I had
something else going on.

Speaker 7 (15:11):
I didn't say anything else. And then one he didn't
realize that he had no idea it was me.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
And then Ariel next goes, is it that your podcast?
And I said, yeah, Matt and I do it together.
And he's like, oh, I'm so.

Speaker 7 (15:25):
Sorry, I'll do it. I'll do it whenever you want.
So funny. Yeah, that was pretty funny. Yeah I did not.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
First of all, you disappeared when we got to New York.
You went to your room and never came out.

Speaker 7 (15:37):
What whoa am?

Speaker 4 (15:40):
We went, oh yeah, we met immediately down the lobby
because you told us that you had an obligation and we.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
I don't use the word obligation. You're right, I'm totally
wrong on that. I was just I was thinking of
what I told myself.

Speaker 7 (15:54):
I was going to say, did you say, hey, let's
meet down here? I say, out for a minute, I'm
going to go meet my agent. That's what it was. Anyway.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Anyway, he was he was super nice, and he was
also like I was probably probably ran a little too
hot around and then thought he said no to your
podcast and realized it was our it.

Speaker 7 (16:08):
Was our, so we might actually get him on.

Speaker 8 (16:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (16:11):
He was like, call him whenever.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
But I I think that's an interesting take that they
held stuff back. I mean, you gotta be so confident
and I feel like their record isn't good enough to
be so confident, especially playing out of that division where
Denver is now winning, the Chargers are now winning.

Speaker 7 (16:26):
You know what, I'm gonna side with you because you're
my friend. Well, I just now, just because you're my friend,
that's only you. That's the only reason.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yes, that's right, Okay, all right, moving on to my
second point. Cam Little kicks a sixty eight yard field
goal and pretty cool. I know Cam. He played University
of Arkansas. We went worked out with Cam. He made
a seventy yard field goal in the preseason. He drilled
the sixty eight yarder playing the Raiders this last week.
But I got a call total nonsense on them giving

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them these balls before.

Speaker 7 (16:57):
The season starts. It's you know, we had Ryan suckapon
a little while.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
That's how and how I even know about this is
why all the kicks are going in from so far.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
It was crazy because Vic Vangio had an interview and
he's like, you know, it's crazy because now we get
a stop at the forty yard line and it's a
fifty yard field goal, and they'll be three for three
from fifty plus. And he's like, you're going to see
more and more of this that teams are in games
just based on the fact that these field goal kickers
number one are good, but to the way that they
doctor the ball and I don't know what they do

(17:25):
to their ball.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Well, the difference of the doctoring is they get to
do it before the season starts. In the past, they
would get them the week or the day of right,
and you only have so many hours to just sandpaper
or whatever they're doing with the ball. You got hours
instead of now you have weeks right to create your own.

Speaker 7 (17:43):
Ball, right to mold it into what you want.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, so the kickers are getting better, bigger, better, and
stronger for sure. Look at Aubrey. I'm not going to
say anybody is a better kicker than Aubrey. That dude in.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
Dallas, he's unbelievable. Although he did miss you see the
big one he messed.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, but I think we need to chill out on
giving them the balls at the beginning of the season.

Speaker 7 (18:01):
This isn't cheating, but it's like a different ball. So
either work.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
I admitted to staying with this ball forever so all
the records say the same, or we need to stop
this because these field goals you're right. As soon as
they start at the thirty or the thirty five or
depending on where the kickoff is.

Speaker 7 (18:15):
You're gonna have an opportunity. They're two first.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Downs away, right from a pretty normal field goal attempt.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
Right, But to say sixty eight yards, I mean, I'm
not taking thing away from it. It's incredible, And I
will say this, I think that there's a lot of
people that have the same view. Because it got such
limited play. It was like, oh, also, Cam Little just
set the NFL record for a sixty eight yarder and
they show the clip and they're like, okay, moving on.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Also, they were playing the Raiders, and it's like, you know,
when you're seeing two logos up there that you really
cared nothing about.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Right now it's the Jags and the Raiders. Yeah, that's uh,
that's pretty true.

Speaker 7 (18:53):
But good for Cam.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Unbelievable sixty eight yard and I think it's given him
a few yards because the balls are already kicker friendly.

Speaker 7 (18:59):
I wonder if somebody will break the record this year
and go sixty nine to seventy. I think there's operator right,
sixty eight two. He missed it. Yeah, it's not that easy.
Did you see the green Bay kicker this week.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
This week, literally miss the pat and a chip shot
field goal.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
I mean it's not as easy as you think.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Hey, the Falcons missed the point to lose the game, beautiful.
I didn't say it was easy. By the way, you
need to not put words in it.

Speaker 7 (19:25):
I didn't say that. It was you're putting words.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
You said you hated Nick Smith, right right, I get
it right.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Oh yeah, that childhood bully Nick Smith.

Speaker 7 (19:37):
Yeah he was meaning.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I was thinking of the Arkansas basketball player, the guy
drafted about the Hornets. You got my next mixed up?
All right, go back over to you, all right, So
I'm such an idiot. Go ahead, Monday Night football. I
know it's Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
But Jacoby Brissett for the Cardinals is making a case
for himself to stay on the field because he's now
played what three games, and he's been incredible. Eight hundred
and sixt yards in those games, six touchdowns, only one interception.
But the team looks different. They've got confidence going and
how he distributes the ball, in what he's doing, just

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the full command of that offense. It just looks different.
And I think Jonathan Gannon's got a question that He's
going to have to answer pretty soon of when Kyler
is healthy, if they keep Jacobi on the field and
see if they can continue to ride the success that
they're having offensively, or if they're going to put Kyler
Murray back on the field.

Speaker 7 (20:28):
I think it's a tough decision.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
I think there were too many moving parts this season
to trade Kyler. I think he has traded in the
off season. I think Kyler ends up getting traded. So
I would ask you the question, what's best not to
play him he doesn't get injured, everyone knows his ceiling.
Or play him and let him play a little injured
because everybody's a little injured right now, right like week ten,

(20:51):
Week eleven, Week twelve, everybody's a little injured, right Play
him and you have the risk of him not performing
well and his trade value possibly goes down a little.
What would you do well?

Speaker 4 (21:00):
I think as a GM you think about trade value,
But as a coach that isn't somewhat of a hot seat,
hasn't had a tremendous amount of success in a division
that's probably the most competitive in the NFL in the
NFC West, that he's sitting there going I need to
play the guy that's going to give us the best
opportunity to win games now, and so he's got to

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make that decision, and I'm sure the evaluation process is
still ongoing. In the five games that they've lost this year,
all of them been one score games, and multiple have
been three points or less. So it's not that they're
getting their doors blown off, but they haven't been able
to get over that hump where a guy makes a
play late or they The Tennessee game was just an

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absolute debacle.

Speaker 7 (21:44):
We talked about that with the drop ball and the
goal line and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
So they should could be in a much different position
if they would have won a few of those games.
But just watching how Jacobi's performed as a coach, I
think it makes it a much harder decision. It's not
just the financial decision, because Kyler Murray, look, economics means something,
and the amount of money that they're paying him a
lot of times will influence a decision of hey, look

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he's going back in. We've we've committed money to him.
He's our franchise, the face of our franchise. But at
the end of the day, you do have to look
at it from a coach's perspective, which I think that
there's going to be pushed back from him saying if
he believes that Jacoby Brissett puts him in the best
position to be successful, that he's going to say, We're
going to go with him and see what see what happens.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Lagarrett Blanc coming up next, will also do our segment
with DraftKings the week in preview?

Speaker 7 (22:34):
Is that what we call it? Is there even a
name for Yeah?

Speaker 6 (22:36):
We can preview.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
We were in previewviewview, don't edded out my nick.

Speaker 7 (22:41):
Myth clip and it's smith.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
All right, We'll come back with Lagarrett Blant. Now let's
get to three times Super Bowl champion Lagherett Blant. He

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won two Patriots, one went to Eagles. Led the league
in rushing touchdown of twenty sixteen with eighteen.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
Man if you had a mind the fancy team that year,
he killed it. Dude.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
A lot of people still remember him, and I do
not only for this, but when he knocked the dude
out for coldcock from Boise State, dropped.

Speaker 7 (23:23):
Him, yeah drop. It was amazing.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Thought his career was over, but he proved everybody wrong.
Went on to have a great career. Now you did
not play with him with the Patriots.

Speaker 7 (23:30):
No, I did not play with them with the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Actually my last year and I believe it was his
last year in twenty eighteen with Detroit. We were both
together Matt Patricia. Obviously he knew Matt Patricia from New England,
and I knew Matt Patrician. I think probably that's how
he came on board as well. But we were together
in Detroit and awesome teammate, awesome guy, and just a
beast of a man, like six one two forty five,

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and nobody wanted to tackle him, like he'd just run
through your face.

Speaker 7 (23:59):
Big thanks to Legarrett. Here he is Lagarrett blind.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Hey, Lagarrett, I'm with Matt every you know, every week
we do the show. And Matt, like yourself's retired ball player.
And I know what he does now because we talk
about it a lot, just since your retirement, Like, what
do you do?

Speaker 7 (24:15):
What's your fulfillment now?

Speaker 8 (24:16):
Man?

Speaker 9 (24:16):
My fulfillment is coaching coach my all point in high school,
Go Pride. You know, we're in the playoffs. We're in
the playoffs right now. So we've got a game on Friday.
So my son is just turned sixteen, in September. So
I am enjoying, I guess, recreating my glory days of

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high school watching him play.

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Hey, well, then, what type of coach are you? Are
you the good after him? Are you more of the teacher?
What's your approach when you're coaching the youth these days?

Speaker 9 (24:49):
So I am more of a I'm a laid back
guy because I have had so many coaches be that
guy always getting after him or customer yelling at the kids.
I've had so much of that growing up, and I
just there is a place for it. Uh, I think
that's not my place. You got to get guys in
there that's that's willing to be the bad guy that

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kids don't like it, and you know they they can talk,
you know, they can talk about you know, I don't
like this guy. So I try not to be that guy,
just for the simple fact that it's it's pretty tough
already on him. I'm already pretty tough on him. I
got him. They go straight to meetings after school, so
I give him pretty much as close to a schedule
of ours that that that I that I can you

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know what I mean, you know how it goes.

Speaker 7 (25:35):
He's sixteen, Do you see a lot of his instincts
that you had. Do you see a lot of you
and him?

Speaker 9 (25:42):
I do see a lot of me and him. But
he is a lot more athletic than I was. He
plays safety and receiver where I played running back, linebacker,
so he's a lot more fluid. He's a lot more athletic.
So he's he's probably my height right now. Ball skills
is nice man, He's a he's a go getter man.

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I've filled a few phone calls about them about him recently,
so that's always good.

Speaker 4 (26:09):
Is it hard watching your son play? Because I know
when I go to my kids youth events, like you're
sitting there and you feel the good in the bad,
And it's so different being there as a parent watching
your kids play sports and try to separate that from
the emotional side of it.

Speaker 9 (26:26):
I try to stay disconnected, especially on the defensive side.
I'm the offensive coordinator with co offensive coordinated with coach
Justin Artist, who's a military guy. So and it's crazy
because he's the military guy and he still ain't the
guy that does the discipline or and it's like in
the military, you're disciplined, you go on the schedule, your

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routine based and all those things. But again he might
be a little he might be a little wit done
with that as well.

Speaker 8 (26:55):
Just like I am. So we delegated to someone else.

Speaker 9 (26:58):
We'll try to give it to a younger guy who's
trying to establish himself, because you know, they usually tend
to try to impress older coaches, So we daily get
it off of that.

Speaker 8 (27:08):
Man.

Speaker 9 (27:08):
It's fun to watch him, though, I don't get nervous.
I just enjoy watching them play. I don't get nervous.
I feel like I've taught him well. I've given him
all the ends and nods I've been coaching since he
was like nine to you. So he knows how to
tackle well. He knows how to protect themselves when he
catched the ball on a like a bang bang play,
he knows how to hype on it.

Speaker 8 (27:28):
I mean, he's a good athlete man. So I don't
get really nervous washing him play.

Speaker 9 (27:31):
Because I feel like I've taught him really well to
how to protect himself in the game.

Speaker 7 (27:35):
You ever sit down to show him Dad's highlights, or
ever catch him watching dazz highlights.

Speaker 9 (27:39):
He's a little bit older now, so I ain't caught
and watching my highlights in a long time.

Speaker 8 (27:44):
I remember, I remember when he was growing up, you.

Speaker 9 (27:48):
Know, getting six, seven, eight nine, you know, probably up
until eleven or twelve years old. I mean, I guess
that's speaking of now. Its just sound crazy because that's
four or five years.

Speaker 8 (27:57):
From now ago. But I used to always come home
and see.

Speaker 9 (28:02):
His iPad on the ground with just highlights of.

Speaker 8 (28:04):
My runners playing, and.

Speaker 9 (28:07):
And now it's highlights of Sauce Gardner and and uh
the guy from the Raiders, Hamilton and uh, you know
all these all these nice safeties and you know, corners
and DB's in the league. That's that's those are those
are the highlights you look at now. So if you're
gonna watch mine, it's gonna have to be an Instagram
post that that a team, that a team contributed out

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with me, you know, on this post, by what the
bucceteers did the other day. You know that that would
be the only way he looked at my highlights anymore.
Even the NFL sent me like a little USB drive,
but all my players on it.

Speaker 8 (28:40):
I don't even think he's looked at it yet.

Speaker 7 (28:42):
So all right, let's go back to you.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
And you grew up in Florida, you obviously went to
JUCO out of out of high school, right you went
to East Mississippi Juco. Talk to me about making that
decision to go all the way out the Oregon. What
went into that decision versus going somewhere else around the country,
and why Oregon.

Speaker 9 (29:00):
The funny story about that is when I when I
got when I was getting recruited, it was heavily had
a handful of offers whatever. But the thing for me
was my parents had a tough time watching me play
because I was in Mississippi and they were in Florida.
So initially I committed to Florida State. That was my
initial commitment because that's only like forty minutes away from

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where I grew up at And I mean, I'm not
the biggest Florida State fan, so I'm a going record
and say that I'm a Gator fan.

Speaker 8 (29:30):
But I didn't. I didn't like to vibe there.

Speaker 9 (29:34):
The conversations weren't great when me and my dad was
asking about what does it look like for me to
play and things like that. Because I was becoming I
was going to go into college d one but as
a junior, so I wasn't going to have like three
or four years.

Speaker 8 (29:49):
I wanted to go to have.

Speaker 9 (29:49):
Two years to play left, so that was important for
us as playing time.

Speaker 8 (29:52):
Well, when I got there, Antoine.

Speaker 9 (29:56):
Antoine Smith, I think, was the running back, and they
pretty much told me without saying in so many words, like, hey,
he's the guy. He's going to continue to be the
guy until he's gone on the way to his turn.
You're gonna have to You're gonna have to wait your
turn kind of kind of thing. And I understand that.
I felt like I was a better guy, but I didn't.
I didn't want to risk it, you know. And then

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I went to Orgon on my official visit and talked
to coach Cam and talked to you know, talk to
coach Blotty and you know, all those guys, and they
made me extremely comfortable and made.

Speaker 8 (30:28):
Me feel at home.

Speaker 9 (30:29):
They made me feel better about the fact that my
parents would want to watch me play. They made sure
they was going to get him out there and stuff
like that. So all that played a huge factor in
me and me deciding Forregan and choosing Forgan.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Whenever you go up and you are so far away
from home, is there an adjustment period to where because
naturally I think I would be homesick even when I
go to Oregon now for like three days from work,
like it feels that's way away from I'm from Arkansas.

Speaker 7 (30:54):
I live in Nashville now, so Oregon's way up there. Man,
was was there an adjustment period for you to not
be homesick?

Speaker 8 (31:00):
Yeah? It was.

Speaker 9 (31:00):
Man, It's different than Florida, that's the sure. I mean,
Florida gets all the all the different seasons and hurricanes
and stuff like that. But when I got there, it
was always rainy, it was always gray outside. I didn't
know a lot of people, So yeah, it was an adjustment.
I was pretty homestick. So it was a phone call
about almost daily with my mom and my dad saying, Man,

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I just I don't know if I can do this,
you know, I'm I don't know if I can do this.

Speaker 8 (31:26):
It's tough out here.

Speaker 9 (31:29):
Things things that I got to do now I never
had to do in junior college.

Speaker 8 (31:33):
And it was just tough.

Speaker 9 (31:34):
Man, been out there by yourself, and you know, only
having friends, only having just a couple of friends. That's
you know, that can kind of relate because a lot
of those guys are from California and stuff like that.

Speaker 7 (31:43):
Yeah, and your second year in Oregon.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Obviously you went through the adversity, the situation early early
in the season Boise State, which said dude came up
smacked his shoulder and you had to teach him a
lesson real quick. But talk to me about that season
because that had to be difficult, right, you had to.
You had the suspension, you had to serve the suspension.
It was going to be a big year. You were
going to be the dude. But what type of growth
did you find through that experience?

Speaker 9 (32:07):
One thing I will say, man, that hit me hard
is you don't know everybody that's on your team and
team you know everybody that's on your team and that's
on your side. All the praises and stuff like that
was was cool and all, but when that hit, it
was it was a tough sledding and I only had
a handful of guys that that were on you know,
I felt like personally on my side with Eddie Pleasant

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and TJ. Ward and Ed Dixon and you know a
handful of the other guys out there walk Thurman in
the list and the list goes on. Those are the
guys that I really talked to the most when I
was going through that, man, I wouldn't you know, I
stopped going to class because it was just such a
huge deal.

Speaker 8 (32:45):
So I couldn't go to class anymore. And I mean all.

Speaker 9 (32:50):
My all my guys just brought my you know, brought
my school stuff to me and kind of I kind
of submitted it through them as well. And I got
to a dark point where I didn't want to see anyone.
You know, I was only allowing one person to come
over to my house that you know at that point.
You know, that was Ed Dick and he was the
only person that was allowed to come over. I wasn't
trying to see anyone or anything like that. And uh,

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it was tough, man, it was. I had ken Yon Barner.
I will say that, man, ken y'all was a huge
piece for me.

Speaker 8 (33:15):
Man.

Speaker 9 (33:15):
He let me, he let me vent to him. You know,
he cried with me. You know, he sympathized with me.
He understood. So I mean that was a tough transition, man.
But getting back was the bright light. I was still
able to practice, I was still able to go to everything.
I just wasn't able to play on Saturdays. And the
suspension originally was for the rest of the year and

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coach Me and coach Me and coach Kelly had a conversation.
You know, hey, man, how do we how do we
fix this? How do we lift this? How do we
figure out? YadA, YadA YadA. And then you know, there
was a couple of demands that I had to meet,
and I met those and he let me back. And
for about two or three games, I wasn't playing, like,
I just didn't play. And that was tough because at
that point I was eligible, you know, he hadn't brought

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me back, so I was eligible, So that was really tough.

Speaker 8 (34:02):
And then in the order State games.

Speaker 9 (34:04):
When I actually got another shot at you know, going
back out there with my guys, So that was kind
of refreshing for me. It felt really really good. But
it was a tough time though.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Did you feel like you had to explain because you
went undrafted? And I'm assuming a lot of that is
because of that situation, because obviously you were a beast
and you were awesome as a college player, But were
you explaining to a lot of general were you explaining
to a lot of those general managers, Hey, look, I've
that that's not who I am, That's what I did
that one time, but that's not who I am. And
do you think that's what affected your overall like a

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draft stock man?

Speaker 9 (34:36):
You know what, I can't answer that question because I
don't know when I was one of my wanting to
my pre draft visits like at the Combine and stuff,
when I was talking to think I talked to the Steelers.
I might even talk to the Patriots, and I talked
to one other team, but they didn't really ask me
about that, like they more actually stuff like you know,
what kind of runs you like? Can you drop this protection?

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Can you draw up this concept?

Speaker 8 (34:59):
You know?

Speaker 9 (35:00):
Can you block this? You know, that's really what the
conversations were. Not a lot of guys, I feel about that.
So I never really had to explain it to any
general managers or any coaches or anything like that, because
I guess that was I have no idea that I
don't know if that was the least of their worries,
you know, because you know, guys fought all.

Speaker 8 (35:17):
The time or I don't have no idea, But I.

Speaker 9 (35:20):
Never had to really explain the situation to any gems
or anything.

Speaker 4 (35:38):
So you go undrafted, did you think, well, number one,
did you think you're gonna get drafted, but you go undrafted,
and you obviously go to Tennessee. What went into going
to Tennessee versus some of these other places?

Speaker 9 (35:49):
So I, uh, the reason I chose Tennessee was originally
I had I had committed to the deal with the Niners.
This is sound crazy. It sounds like I am the
most unsure person ever. So and during the time I
didn't think I was going to get drafted, my agent
at the time was telling me like, hey, bro, you
know they're giving you a third round evaluation, you know,

(36:11):
fourth rown evaluation, which I'm you know, okay, that's cool.
I just want to I just want to go at
this point, and you know, you see it go slipping away,
and then you see these guys that get drafted before
you that you know, no knock against them, but they
they're nowhere near the caliber player that you are, and
you know they're getting the opportunities to get drafted. And

(36:32):
it's understandable, right you have if you're looking outside, if
you're outside looking in as a general manager that didn't
ask those questions and stuff, you're looking at this guy like,
oh my gosh, like am I going to be able
to handle him like YadA, YadA, YadA. But I told
coach Singletary of the forty nine ers. He called me
in the fifth or sixth round and he said, hey man,

(36:54):
we're looking to pick you up with this, you know,
with this next pick. I'm excited. I'm like, hell yeah,
let's do it, you know what I'm saying. And the
pick goes by it and they choose Anthony Dixon, running
back from Missisippi State. And then after the draft is over,
they called me like, hey man, we would love to
have you here. You know, we want to give you
a shot.

Speaker 8 (37:12):
Man.

Speaker 9 (37:12):
We think you're a great player, you know, the whole spield.
And I'm like, well, y'all just drafted Anthony Dixon after
calling me and telling me, y'all we want to draft me.
So it was not a backup plan or if he wasn't,
there was y'all gonna pick me?

Speaker 8 (37:24):
Like, what was the what was the plan here? It
was like, man, we believe in you, we love you,
we love your.

Speaker 9 (37:28):
Running style in courus coincides with what I believe as
the football player. Ya YadA YadA. So me and my
agent went on, we had to talk. Me and my
mom went for a long ass walk around the around
the around the you know, the neighborhood. And I came
back and talked to my agent and they, you know, say,
the Tennessee Titans want you as well. Jeff Fisher, we

(37:52):
had that conversation. I was like, hey man, I want
to call for Singletary and Arry tell him like, hey man,
I don't know if I'm I'm gonna be able to
make that decision because come to come there, because I
don't I don't know if you're gonna be honest and
truthful with me considering how to draft unfold. And we
called him and we told him, and he, you know,
he kind of I'm pretty sure he hung up on us.

(38:15):
And then I called Jim Fisher back and I'm like,
hey man, I'm coming to Tennessee. And you know, he's
found of like you know, a kid in the candy store,
like man, hell yeah, d da da dah, you know.

Speaker 8 (38:23):
And I was just had to play with Friz Johnson.

Speaker 9 (38:25):
So that's kind of how that whole story unfolded.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
When you go to Tampa, it's like I'm finally able
to play at home.

Speaker 7 (38:31):
Our family can watch me.

Speaker 9 (38:33):
Yeah, that was I ain't gonna lie that was That
was the highlight of my career because I was that's
only about three and a half two and a half
three hours away.

Speaker 8 (38:40):
From where where I grew up at.

Speaker 9 (38:41):
So I loved it, you know, I enjoyed it.

Speaker 8 (38:45):
I was It was the.

Speaker 9 (38:46):
First time I had ever played, like in the same
state as my you know, as my family being able
to watch since high school.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
And you ran for a thousand yards that year, right,
you ran for a thousand yards and set.

Speaker 9 (38:56):
There with a big as one hundred and eighty feet
New York style band on the side of the football
stadium with me on it.

Speaker 8 (39:05):
It was pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
So did you know so at that point when that happens,
right so early in your career, did you know that
you arrived at that point and you're like, okay, seem
it was part of it. The motivation of proving everybody wrong,
of saying, look, I went undrafted Titans, they let me
go Tampa Bay. Gives me my opportunity, and now I've
got this stage where I can prove to everybody I'm

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the player that I thought I was.

Speaker 9 (39:31):
Yeah, man, it did give me a lot of validation.
I never really had any doubt in my skill set
and how good I could how good I could be.
But I did have, you know, some doubt in my
mind that people didn't trust the fact that you know,
I was going to be able to come in and
contribute and you know, keep it together if things don't
go right and things like that.

Speaker 8 (39:52):
So I think that played a big factor in some
of those things.

Speaker 9 (39:56):
But I did feel good about myself, man, because I
was in the backfield with a guy that had just
wrong rokie, that had one Rookie of the Year while
he was there, Cadillac Williams right Auburn, Auburn Auburn Beasts,
one of the best college football running backs in ever history,
in my opinion, and you know, he was the rookie

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of the year. And I came in behind him, and
he took me up under his wing him and earned
his grand as a Forida Gator guy.

Speaker 8 (40:21):
Man, Hey, shout out e g.

Speaker 9 (40:25):
He's I love them Gators, man, But I earned his
Graham and Cadillac took me up under their wing men.

Speaker 8 (40:29):
And they they it took me to dinners. I didn't
have to.

Speaker 9 (40:32):
I didn't have to do the rookie dinner stuff, so
I didn't have to spend all my undrafted money I
didn't have but like a couple of thousand dollars, so
I probably would have been broke after one nail.

Speaker 8 (40:40):
But I mean they took me up under their wing
and it Cadillac was good to me.

Speaker 9 (40:45):
Even though they transitioned into me being the starting back
that was getting most of the carries. He didn't hurt
He didn't like hamper like or hurt like my development.
He actually just helped me a lot, and everything that
I needed help with he was. It was as help
helpful as he possibly be. So it was a good
time in Tampa.

Speaker 8 (41:02):
Man, I'm not gonna lie. I liked it at there.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
So I've heard a lot of Patriots stories from from
Castle because obviously he played on them for a long time.
And he said, you guys did not cross paths in
New England. At least you guys didn't cross pass uh
until later in you guys his career. But what was
the first like Patriots moment where you're you're with the
Patriots and you're like, oh, this organization is different.

Speaker 7 (41:22):
He's got a big smile on his face.

Speaker 9 (41:26):
So one of the one of the one of the
I'll say, one of the biggest changes for me was
the fact that you go into a meeting, and I
didn't know this at the time.

Speaker 8 (41:37):
So you go into a meeting and.

Speaker 9 (41:39):
You have your notes ready, and you know you're looking
at them, and you know, everybody's just kind of taking
out their notes, and I'm just kind of looking brown
because in the off season I got there. I got
traded in the off season, so everybody's OTA's and off
season workouts and all that stuff.

Speaker 8 (41:54):
Is the same.

Speaker 9 (41:56):
But when you get to the meeting room and you
about to play a team or whatever, even in the preseason,
you know, Bill always ask these questions like, who's the
second stream linebacker? If this guy goes down, who's the
third string defensive end, If this guy goes down, who's
a defensive coordinator? Where did he go? Where did he
come from? Did he is this his first year there?
Did he come from college? Did he come from high school?

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And up until that point, I had never had those questions.

Speaker 8 (42:23):
Never.

Speaker 9 (42:24):
I've never had done with dealt with that before. So
I had to kind of get on my p's and
q's on that. But man, that's like a it's like
a man, it was different, you know what I'm saying.
It was definitely different. Even the field going into the
building was different. I'm not gonna lie like you going
to Tampa. You know, you guys are high five and
oh what's up dog?

Speaker 8 (42:41):
And da dah. You know where you know, you go
into the locker room.

Speaker 9 (42:44):
You can tell your music owner you could chill and
you could you know, hey, FaceTime and.

Speaker 8 (42:48):
All this stuff. And you go to New England District
of Business.

Speaker 9 (42:52):
You know, no phones allowed or videos, like no videos
or pictures of out in the locker room entertaining each
other basically, And yeah, man, those are those are some
of the some of the biggest turning points for me.

Speaker 8 (43:06):
Man, those are those were different.

Speaker 7 (43:08):
I've been in that seat before. The anxiety a better
player though. It does know the.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
Anxiety though that you have going in that meeting room
when he's when he's calling dudes out and goes, what
the f castle You don't know who the backup like
linebacker is or what what's their favorite blitz on third down?
You're like, it's Wednesday, we haven't even started third down
yet and you're just sitting there in a full panic.
But you see guys sweating that meeting. But what it
does do, like you said, it makes you accountable because

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you start to study that stuff because you don't want
to be embarrassed in front of your teammates. And it's
as well of those situations where you're like, man, this
is this is a good grind.

Speaker 7 (43:43):
But okay, well let's do it. I mean, all right,
so you look.

Speaker 9 (43:48):
Over at there, I look at James, and I look
at James James or you know, I look at Brandon
Boder because those guys are there before me. You know
what I'm saying that Shane Bereen and those guys. So
I'm looking like when he asked me those questions, like
I got the decordinator, Okay, I got the O coordinator,
I got the special teams coordinator, I got these guys,
and then he'll ask a question out of everything you
wrote to ask you a question that you don't.

Speaker 8 (44:09):
Have on that.

Speaker 9 (44:12):
And I'm like, I'm like, uh, James, hey, his name
is Mike Joe.

Speaker 8 (44:22):
Got lg Uh.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
So, I mean, it's pretty incredible what you were able
to achieve. But you obviously are one of the only
players in the history to win three Super Bowls. But
you won Super Bowls back to back with two different organizations.
Does one of the Super Bowl championships stand out to you.

Speaker 8 (44:40):
Man.

Speaker 9 (44:40):
I'm I'm on record saying this a lot, but man,
that Eagles one is different.

Speaker 8 (44:45):
You know.

Speaker 9 (44:46):
It was a fun full year. Like it wasn't like, oh,
let's just have fun now, Like it was a full
year of we're gonna we're gonna put this work in.
We're gonna work hard as we can. We know what
kind of team we have, we know we have the
opportunity to make it work. Let's just grind, grind, grind,
and it's not always going to be you know, it's

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not always going to be that, you know. So we
just we grinded out and we have fun and we
played basketball in the locker room, and we listen to
music and we play pool and all that stuff. But
we always knew that it was time to put the
work in. And that's what I like. And I even
had fun at practices like that's you don't never have
fun at practice. It's like, bro, damn, here we go again.
We're out here. You know, it's a money and ten

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or it's sixty. It's you know, sometimes just you know whatever,
But I have fun at practice. Man, Doug was awesome.
Doug and Howie are awesome, and they showed me love
and they believed in me in the entire season. And
they told me once we got into the playoffs in
the in the super Bowl, like man, we're going to
Roger to the Will's fall off in the postseason. And
that gave me the confidence Like, okay, because you're going

(45:55):
to the game confident in New England, Bro, But it's different.
You go to the playoffs confident. But it's different. You
walk on eggshells because if you make a mistake as
a back, not as a quarterback. You know what I'm saying,
But if you make a mistake as a back, Bro,
you might not get no more carries that game. You
might not might not even go back in you know
what I'm saying. So but but in but in Philly,

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they allowed you to make mistakes and not.

Speaker 8 (46:18):
Be like I'm not going to play again. They allowed
me to like I.

Speaker 9 (46:21):
Didn't make a lot of mistakes while I was there,
but you can play more loose, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
One final question, when you go to Philly after winning
the title with New England, was there an expectation of
you just want a championship, We want you to bring
some championship culture to Philadelphia.

Speaker 8 (46:39):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, there was, yeah, there was. There was.

Speaker 9 (46:42):
Well, another guy that actually was on that team was
Chris Long. Had just came from New England with me,
And the funny story about that is how we asked
Chris Long about me. Fridge Long vouts for me and
then he told me. He hit me up and said, hey, bro,
come to Philly. I don't know if I still have

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to taxt message or phone call log or whatever, but
he hit me up and basically said, come to Philly, bro,
It's amazing here. They've been asking me about you. They
love you here. Come to Philly.

Speaker 8 (47:15):
I'm like, well, man, they they ain't calling me, you know.

Speaker 9 (47:18):
They This is around the weird time that Bill had
put that weird tender on me. If you guys look
it up, you'll find like that weird crazy tender where
it was like I rest for eleven hundred and twelve
hundred yards and seventeen or eighteen touchdowns or whatever, and
they I was filling all these phone calls and then
all of a sudden they stopped, and then I see
this thing come out saying, oh, the Patriots have put

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this rare tender on the Garrett Blunt that hasn't been
used since nineteen seventy.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
Only Bill would find that because because they want to
have compensation.

Speaker 8 (47:49):
You know how it goes, Matt.

Speaker 9 (47:50):
If you ball out and you're you become a free agent,
and if you do something with a team, the team
that you come from got to get compensated still even
though you're a free agent. So he found that, he
found that car somewhere, and I mean, and you had
four or five teams back out and Philly stood is strong.
It was like, bro, we'll give up that draft pick

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or whatever we have to give up for him. That's cool.
So that was that was that was pretty tight, man.
That was I love Feeling's organization.

Speaker 8 (48:18):
Man.

Speaker 9 (48:18):
I'm not saying it's better than New England's by any by,
by any way of the word.

Speaker 8 (48:22):
But that year that I.

Speaker 9 (48:24):
Was there was extremely fun. I had fourteen carries, ninety
one yards and a touchdown.

Speaker 8 (48:28):
Like it was great. It was great.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
Well, good luck Mountain Point, right, Mountain Point. That's what
it is, right, Mountain Pride, Mountain Pride. We really appreciate
the time you guys follow the LG. Blunt and hey
love watching you appreciate your time and hope you guys
have a great, healthy rest of your season this year.

Speaker 7 (48:46):
Coach.

Speaker 8 (48:46):
I appreciate you, guys, man. Thanks man.

Speaker 9 (48:48):
I appreciate you guys having me own. Hey, Andrew, Bobby, Brandy, Kevin, everybody, Matt,
my guys. I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 5 (48:57):
Man.

Speaker 9 (48:57):
Thanks, thanks a lot, Man. Always a pleasure anytime you
need me. Matt, you know you can get a hold
of your brother.

Speaker 7 (49:01):
I appreciate you, Bro. Thanks again.

Speaker 5 (49:03):
Good to see if yet there? All right, see you guys.

Speaker 7 (49:20):
All right, let's do our final topic.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
I'm gonna go the quarterback situation in San Francisco. I'm
the forty nine or of five and two with Mac
Jones as their starting quarterback. As a Patriots fan, Kevin
an only fan, not that you subscribe to his only fans,
but you didn't play for Yes, yes, does it drive
you a little crazy to see Mac Jones being successful

(49:43):
since you're a Pats fan and he really wasn't there.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
It did at first, but I think I've come to
the realization that our coaching was that bad offensively while
he was there, when he had Matt Patricia as his coordinator,
and just everything around him was just that bad. I'm like, wow,
I knew it was bad, but now you've really seen
how bad it was.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
If I'm correct, and Bill Belichick has a history of
not drafting the best. I believe Belichick drafted him as
a linebacker. Mike Jones.

Speaker 7 (50:09):
Yeah yeah, right, yeah, yeah like that.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Yeah, like walk up three to four linebacker that can
come rush on third down for sure.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Eighteen hundred passing yards, ten touchdowns, only five interceptions. He's
got a QBR in ninety three. Even from this last
game he was nineteen to twenty four, two touchdowns, no interceptions.
So Mac Jones good or Shanahan great or combination of both.

Speaker 7 (50:35):
I think a combination of both.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
Kyle Shanahan's one of the best offensive coordinators and the
offensive minds, I should say in the sport today.

Speaker 7 (50:43):
And he's he's proven.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
That year in year out just the way that he
runs his offensive system. And you could tell that it
is a quarterback friendly system. It's a rhythm based system.
So the ball is going to come out. He's going
to have you coached up and understand it's footwork based, right,
So you're hitting number five, you're letting the ball rip
and if you're taking a hitch. You're getting to number two.
So he coaches the hell out of the those guys.

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What's really impressive to me, I also believe for Mac
Jones and to talk about him being he's been really
good stepping into this role is they've had a ton
of injuries at the skill position players wide receiver Kittle
was out for a while, but they always also, I
feel like have an identity and that offense runs through
Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 7 (51:25):
But even if you.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Watch the game last this last week, he was in rhythm.
He's deadly accurate. He's tough as nails because he's been
beat up this season as well, but he just makes
play after play and he's been consistent. And that's what
If you're that in Kyle Shanahan's offense, you'll have success.
And he's shown that time and time again. So I
think it's the brilliance of Kyle Shanahan that offensive structure,

(51:49):
but it's also Mac Jones is a good quarterback and
he was putting, you know, Dalton unfair hand early in
his tenure with the Patriots.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Brock Party's injury status is weird, becaus I don't think
that they thought the injury was as severe, and I
think now it's severe because they would have put him
on the IR.

Speaker 7 (52:07):
Right.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
I feel the same way because you go back Burrow
had what the same kind of toe injury, and they
immediately said, look, he's going on IR for the year.
So I think that they're trying to figure out whether
or not eventually they can get it to a point
where he can go.

Speaker 7 (52:22):
I just just don't know how prolonged it will be.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
A Couple quotes I took from his postgame Shanahan said,
the party's turf toe is something that probably won't fully
go away all year, and regardless of when he comes back,
he's always going to have to deal with it. He said,
quote I thought about Purty as a backup or emergency
third quarterback, but I think the more time we give
him the better. At this point, it feels to me
that mac Jones, probably at the version he is now,

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is a better quarterback than Perdy will be coming in
with a turf toe and a partial injury.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
I agree with you, and then I also agree with
you that they've got some confidence and the mac Jones
is starting to You're starting to feel those guys support
him and go around him, not to say that they
wouldn't with Purty, but when you put Purty back in
the game, and now you know he may be a
game to game basis. He gets tackled once and he's

(53:15):
taken all the reps during the week, and now he's
back on the ir or out for the rest of
the season. While mac Jones is a healthy scratch, why
not go with the guy that's healthy and that you
know who's probably going to be there and use Party
in that emergency role, whereas if he has to come
in then it's out of necessity.

Speaker 7 (53:33):
Just shut him down. Shut him down.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Party hurdyty, party's hes hed, party's heardy, no play, party's
hurd You want it back next year at turf to
terrible name m turf Dow.

Speaker 7 (53:46):
Yeah, no, it sounds fun.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
It does sound fun. It sounds like, oh it's turf toe,
not a big deal. No, I heard it's one of
the most excruciating things you can possibly have.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
I want to go and play with some play though
on my turftoe. It feels like all those go together. Okay,
do you have anything else? You have a final topic?
Final topic?

Speaker 4 (54:02):
I really don't, but I do want to talk about uh, Chicago.

Speaker 7 (54:07):
I mean the city, the Bean.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
I haven't been to the Bean. I need to go
to Chicago. I heard they've got, you know, a great city.
I have been there, just just like for a day trip,
but you haven't really got to I did.

Speaker 7 (54:19):
But like like I said to you, well, you don't
get to experience.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
As we go in on a We go in on
a Saturday and I leave on a Sunday.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
A day trips, like when you live in Milwaukee and
you drive down and have dinner and then drive back,
and it's a little longer than a normal commute. It's
not going to play a professional football game a soldier field.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
I would fly in to fly out. Basically, That's what
I did. It was a work trip, but that's better. Yeah,
it was a work trip, but I mean I watched
the complete game of Caleb William last week and and
my god, he is one of the most physically talented
quarterbacks in the league. He can make every throw and
he might not be the biggest in stature, but the

(55:04):
guy can rip the ball anywhere. And then also his
ability to move and make plays outside the pocket has
been It's like such an exciting offense to watch and
I say he's still you know, a lot of people
are saying this, that and the other about they want
to critique him, And yes, are there some flaws in
his game, still one hundred percent, but you can see

(55:25):
the growth with Ben Johnson and the just in constant
improvement that he's made, and I think this guy's going
to be a superstar sooner than later.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
I also am starting to see because I have different
eyes than you, because you actually know what you're looking at.

Speaker 7 (55:39):
I just go ooh, good play.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
But I also can see that I can see what
people love that he will possibly be. He's such an
athlete at times he drives me crazy. There are but
I think that's also this is like his real rookie
year Iberflus. That wasn't really a rookie year. That was
like when Trevor Lawrence played with Arbin Meyer. You know

(56:03):
that year shouldn't count, right, So we're looking at a
real rookie year with a real coach, an offensive coach.
Uh And so yeah, it's kind of exciting to see
because he's such an athlete.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
He's such an he does things that just blow me away.
He and I'm not I'm not comparing him to Patrick Mahomes.
But he's got that type of ability, just freak athleticism
where he can make any throw at any time, and
his ability to throw in the run is one of
the best things that he does.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Sounded to me like comparison to Patrick Mahomes. I would
know what you guys, like, comparison to Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 6 (56:36):
Yeah pretty close.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
Yeah, well, I don't want to make a comparison, but
I want to make a comparison to Nick Smith.

Speaker 7 (56:43):
God, I love Nick Smith.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Kevin run through the trades. Yeah, so the big one
of the day is Sauce Gardner. He got traded to
the Cult for two first rounders and a d Mitchell
the receiver.

Speaker 7 (56:54):
Damn from Indy. What was that about about ad Mitchell?
Unders So you said that after a d Mitchell multitude
was letting him complete the complete truths? Do you let
people complete stuff?

Speaker 1 (57:06):
I'm over here a minute ago talking about Matthew Stafford
and I said, Matthew staff Oh my god.

Speaker 7 (57:11):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
I wasn't interrupt. And then the very next one was
Drake Man. You're like, Kevin, what do you think about that?
So like, yeah, so, I guess we can't have a conversation.
It's different different.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
You are a highly educated with experienced former Patriot.

Speaker 7 (57:26):
He is a fan who watches games and is underwear.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
No, I was going to talk about Stafford. He was
going to talk about the Patriot. No, I know, but
act like Kevin. Go ahead, go ahead, mom, and dadd sadly,
I'm mom, that's what calm down, guys.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Yes, and the Jets, they keep wheeling and dealing. They
also traded Quinn Williams. He tackle the Cowboys.

Speaker 7 (57:48):
The wow yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
So we're doing this on Tuesday afternoon because when Jerry
Jones goes on Sunday or maybe even Monday early and goes, yeah,
I got a trade b vard. I thought it was
when they traded for the Bengals linebacker.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
Yeah, Zach Logan Wilson, Wilson.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
And so I thought, you know, I don't know that
I would have been hyping that one up like Jerry
Jones was doing, like we got a trade coming.

Speaker 7 (58:12):
This one is actually better, this is legit.

Speaker 8 (58:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Big one for Williams is a second round pick in
twenty twenty six and then twenty twenty seven first round
pick and defensive tackle.

Speaker 6 (58:22):
I believe it's Mazzi, Mazzy Smith, Mazzie Smith.

Speaker 7 (58:25):
I know Ozzie Smith played for the Cardinals.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Short stop oh oh Smith altogether, Wait instinct. They gave
up a first, They gave up a first, a second
and a d tackle.

Speaker 7 (58:36):
That's a lot. Quinn Williams, that's a lot. Quinn Williams
is good. I guess he's really good.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
The only things that I have is a question here
is what's on Quinn Williams contract. And secondly, the Cowboys
really aren't in it this year.

Speaker 7 (58:50):
That's what I'm saying. That's a lot.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
That's a lot of draft capital to give up in
a year when you're not trying, you're really gonna You've
got an uphill battle just to get back in the
mix in your own division.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Because I think listen, that was a lot for Sauce
Gardner too. However, where you can argue, is it too many?
Two ones?

Speaker 7 (59:08):
Is a lot? At least it's the Colts trying in.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
A year where they're winning, right, and like, I can
respect that. So you're like, oh, it's too much or
too little. I like it when my team tries, when
my team has a chance to win, But this this
is weird unless he's got like three four years left.

Speaker 7 (59:23):
Well, I think it too left two left.

Speaker 4 (59:24):
And it's also like it feels like Jerry's trying to
do something to make up for the parses.

Speaker 7 (59:29):
Before or before he dies. Well, like I have to.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
I have to do something to give these fans an
understanding that we're trying to fix the defense or before
I die.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
The parts is to I mean, they traded for Kenny
Clark that was too stop the run. Yeah, and now
here's another dtackle mid season.

Speaker 7 (59:44):
They want to stop both runs.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
They want to stop every run in the NFC East period.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
What about the defensive backfield that gave up three hundred yards?

Speaker 7 (59:55):
Yeah? And what if his new approaches they're going to
put Quin Williams as a defensive back.

Speaker 6 (59:59):
Oh, that would be everyone's digging.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
He's just playing cover zero. Just jam them offline, but
just don't let them go.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
There's no chance you can get run by every time
you get like two yards, So jam and hold them.

Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
Perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
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Speaker 7 (01:00:39):
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Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
We're gonna go with the Bucks at home, and the
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Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
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Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
Those are two equal teams.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
I think if they're playing in London and they come
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Speaker 7 (01:01:13):
Rams at forty nine ers Matt Kessel.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
I'm going with the play in the hot hand, I'm
going with the Rams. I mean Stafford's playing as well
as anybody at the quarterback position right now and pooking
the kupa DeVante Adams.

Speaker 7 (01:01:26):
I mean, they've got weapons across the board.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
I think their defenses continues to get better, and they've
got a young defense. But I'll tell you what, they're
producing pass rush and they've got an identity.

Speaker 7 (01:01:34):
So I'm going to go with the Rams.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
I'm all right, Mac Jones. You rarely see a kid
come up drafted as a linebacker. Make it a quarterback.

Speaker 9 (01:01:41):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:01:42):
I'm really pulling for the guys a tight end, yeah, Casckle.

Speaker 8 (01:01:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:01:45):
Like Eagles at Packers, this is Monday night football. Man,
What a what a bad loss for the Packers?

Speaker 4 (01:01:51):
Key poundens what I say because I'm a lifelong Carolina
Panther van for about.

Speaker 7 (01:01:55):
What five weeks now? Is that about right? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
Life take I'm a lifelong Panther fan for about five weeks. Yeah,
what a whim for the Panthers over the Packers. But
Eagles at Packers Packers are the favorite Monday football in
Green Bay.

Speaker 7 (01:02:07):
I'm going with the Eagles, man. I mean, they.

Speaker 4 (01:02:11):
They've been playing really good football and they've been finding
ways to win. I know they haven't put it all together,
but they've had to buy Packers struggled last week for
the Packers bad injury at the tight end position. I
mean that was huge because he was he was a
go to guy for Jordan Love, and there's just I
think Jordan Love's a really good quarterback. But there are
times when he throws the ball up and I just go,

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why in.

Speaker 7 (01:02:35):
The hell did you just throw that ball?

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
Like there's another ball that there was one in a
team meeting down the field that got intercepted. There was
another one where he was trying to and it might
have been win, I don't know, but he hit the
guy directly in the hands in the end zone and
the Carolina Panther dB dropped it, and I just go,
that was right in the end zone, right talking about
I'm talking about hit him right in the chest.

Speaker 7 (01:02:57):
But I couldn't believe he dropped. The throw was so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
But he dropped the easiest interception of the history of
interceptions that I forgot how bad the throw was.

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
And then you go and that's why you play dB.
I mean, that's but the throw was just absurd. I
couldn't explain it. I couldn't even I couldn't even tell
you what he was thinking about doing at that point.

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I just heard the announcer say about eleven times. This
is my memory from the game, that Jordan Love was
twenty seven, and that Aaron Rodgers won his championship and
bart Star won a championship at twenty sven years old.

Speaker 7 (01:03:35):
And if they don't stop bring up that stupid fact,
like get a move on. Yeah, they love that fact,
they love it. No pressure on you, no, Jordan Love.

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Before we Go, we did an episode with Eric Decker
Go back a couple episodes. Listen to it. It was
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meaning it's evergreen. It's a great Eric Decker history. He
ended up believing Special Forces because I guess he got hurt.

Speaker 7 (01:04:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
I said it was a back, tight back or something
with his back.

Speaker 7 (01:04:53):
Is that like when you get injured in your team? Sucks? Dude?

Speaker 4 (01:04:55):
He was like, did are you serious? Like this is
going downhill? I'm out at here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
On last week's episode Special Forces, Eric struggled to keep
up in the military style competition, causing his wife James Decker,
to worry. During a check in with staff, he admitted
that he'd been pushing himself quote as hard as I can,
but he was reaching a point of exhaustion in his soul.
When he went to visit the doctor at base camp.
A few tests showed it wasn't safe for him to
stay in the game. Quote, I'm concerned that we can't

(01:05:21):
afflict any more punishment on that hip. The doctor revealed,
I don't think we can safely really let it carry on.

Speaker 7 (01:05:27):
Eric Decker out and Jesse left with him. What a
good wife?

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
Can you imagine if she stayed in won I can,
and I would have I know, I know you would
have like, all right, man, sorry, go fix that hip up.
I'll meet you in Germany, yep, or wherever they're at.

Speaker 7 (01:05:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
So sad to see him go. He did not in
any way indicate that that happened. He didn't tell us anything.
He stayed right by his NDA designed and he really
did revealed nothing to us.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
As I could you have told. Maybe that's why he's
been stretching so much at the Little League games. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
he was stretching out that Ye you thought it was
to be sexy him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
He tore it doing special forces training, yeah, or whatever
you call it. I hope because we're recording this again
late Tuesday afternoon. I hope I get to watch Dancing
with the Stars tonight. I'm so annoyed because I have YouTube.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
TV and oh, yeah, you guys got to watch your Disney. Yeah,
I couldn't watch Game Day Now. I'm not part of
YouTube TV. So it's not like I have a dispute
with Disney.

Speaker 7 (01:06:17):
No, I'm saying that they had I know you don't
You said?

Speaker 8 (01:06:20):
Well you do?

Speaker 7 (01:06:21):
Now?

Speaker 8 (01:06:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:06:22):
Didn't get college, didn't you?

Speaker 8 (01:06:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:06:24):
No, I didn't get college. I didn't get money at football.
Oh gosh, what'd you do? You got to have another
streaming service? No, I learned to buy Sling on a
one day pass for six bucks a day. That's actually nice. Yeah,
who knew? Who knew?

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
But I'm really hoping to get it back for Dancing
with the Stars tonight. Really need and you can come over.

Speaker 7 (01:06:41):
To my house and watch it with the kids. Are
you guys watching it? I don't know, So you're not
watching it?

Speaker 8 (01:06:45):
Then?

Speaker 7 (01:06:45):
Probably not? If that no, no, no, no, you missed my question.
Have you been watching it? I haven't? Then, Okay, where
are we in the season? I think it's like six left,
but we're close. We just a couple of weeks left.
Who's the front runner? Who do I think is going
to win?

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Dylan Ephron or Robert Irwin. Probably Robert Irwin if I
hadn't bet, he's Steve Berwin's son, Bendy irwinz brother, a
younger brother. She was a champion on the show. And
now Robert Irwin. He's really good. He's really good, except
he's not professional. Like he's really good without much experience.

(01:07:20):
So that's what you like. Yeah, Zac Efron's little brother.
There's a lot of nepotism here, huh yeah, Zach. As
of those people, it's Dylan Ephron, good looking dude, like
good dancer, sure, great with no shirt like makes it work,
yeah yeah, and one of those sex appeal yeah yeah,
get it. They're both good. I'm rooting for Andy Richter
and Emma. Andy's like he's like sixty, he wears knee

(01:07:43):
braces on both legs.

Speaker 7 (01:07:45):
Not a great dancer, but like really has America's heart. Yeah,
just give it full effort. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
So by the time that this has heard, you're gonna
know who's been kicked off. I don't know yet, but
I'm really rooting for and I like Emma a lot
when I was on the show, Like Chearnov's my partner,
so I gotta take her out of the conversation. But
Emma was the absolute greatest and the biggest helper to me,
and was like an emotional resource too, And like when
they would come to town, she'd like come over to the house,
like I really liked had a great relationship with her

(01:08:13):
and her husband at the time, who they're no longer married,
but he's still part of the he's an answer to
Oh really, And now she's dating another dancer. No, I
I know, I know she's she's still on the show.
He's still on the show. Oh I got even better
wrinkle right for the big.

Speaker 4 (01:08:28):
Rings this is and then she's but now she's dating
another dancer on the show.

Speaker 7 (01:08:32):
So wow, this is one in sesuous group of people.
Well can't you imagine? They're together all the time. I know,
and they're great dancers.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
So they were dating. It was Emma and Sasha. Sasha
is the guy they were dating. He proposed on the show.
This is seasons before I went that's romantic, So how
can you say no? Exactly? They both danced on the show.
They got married, they were together. I knew them married.
They were a married couple when I was there. Okay,
even when they would come to town, they came over
and hung out with me. Married, they then got a divorce.

(01:08:59):
My assumption and the limited knowledge that I have is
are still cool. But now she's dating another dancer from
the show. It's her boyfriend, and I knew him and
really liked him as well. Now Sasha still on the show.
Not this season. Here you go, Here's big finale. Sasha,
her ex husband, was supposed to be on this season,

(01:09:19):
and rumored his partner was Jordan Hudson and she backed out.
Bill Belichick's girlfriend. She backed out last minute because she
decided she didn't want to go on the show. So
he lost his spot because she backed out of the show.

Speaker 7 (01:09:31):
Wow, this is.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
Great they need to do Can we do it behind
the scenes like I'd tune in for that.

Speaker 7 (01:09:37):
Uh huh. I wish Belichick's girl would have went on
I do too. That would have been amazing. And so
Sasha was.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Going to be on the season, but rumor has it
that was his partner and she backed out, so he
didn't have a partner.

Speaker 7 (01:09:49):
And they also didn't want him to beat up the
new boyfriend. No, I believe they're cool and they both family.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
Dancers are normally pretty pretty cool. Have you ever met
like a dancer that you didn't really like? Or was
there one on the show you don't even have to
mention them that was.

Speaker 7 (01:10:05):
Like, oh yeah, two two of them? Most males, I
have no comment. Come on, you got last.

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
I'm not asking you to name anybody, but you're cutting
half off if you say male or female, you're cutting.

Speaker 7 (01:10:18):
Of course we are, Yeah, are you?

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
I'm gonna say there were two very difficult dancers that
I would say weren't loved by all that weren't super
nice to me either, and I.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
Was was it because of the competitive nature that they
have or was it just because of the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Nobody saw me as a as competition? Because watching back,
I'm doing a whole video series because I've never watched
my dances back ever until now, because I was like,
I'm not and I was actually a little more athletic
than I wasn't as bad as everybody made me feel. Yeah,
I had a level of trauma with it, like with
watching it back, which is why I never watched it back.
I won the freaking thing I was proud of winning,
but I was like, I'm not going to watch it.

(01:10:58):
I had just understood in my heart and soul that
I was terrible, but I won through the people. But
now that I watch back, I definitely want through the people.
But I wasn't near as bad as I gave myself
credit for being. Yeah, that they made you believe.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
You were yeah, because I really believed. Man, I was
terrible and I'm never dancing again. Your wife's like, can
we do the first dance at the wedding. You're like,
no chance.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
I called in a stunt dancer at the wedding. It
wasn't me, like I will not have this first dance.
Let's wear mastering our first dance BIB. There were a
couple that were difficult, and it wasn't even towards the
competition part of me, because nobody thought I was competition
for real until like the last four weeks. That's when
they knew they were introll I was never in the
bottom three. They don't do bottom three anymore. They do
random three, but but five seasons it goes they did

(01:11:39):
bottom three.

Speaker 4 (01:11:41):
Well, so random three would be you don't even know
you're in the bottom three. They just have three couples.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
At the end when they're so, they start telling people
so and so you're safe, You're safe. There are three
couples on stage. One of you is going home. Doesn't
that make it the bottom three? Though it doesn't, so
they feel like it is the bottom one is for
sure of the bottom three, but the other two they
don't have to be. Oh they could be the weird
number one, but you never know the voting.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
Nice little twist. But it's good job producers. My season,
it was just a bottom three, so you knew. Yeah,
and you're never wearing the bottom three, not once, hell yeah,
but nobody.

Speaker 7 (01:12:14):
But I was never am.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
I net the competition when they got to like week
eight and they're like this.

Speaker 7 (01:12:20):
Month, yeah, this dude's never been in the bottom three.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
And then once I because I was pretty heavily involved
in creating television shows, like I had signed a deal
with BBC after Dancing with the Stars BBC America to
write shows, like to create concepts of shows, and then
I would learn about where they would put and then
I would learn they would put certain dancers at the
top of hours and those are the ones that they
really wanted. I shouldn't say to highlight, but they were

(01:12:45):
the ones that.

Speaker 7 (01:12:45):
People they knew people would like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
Because let's say that the show goes on seven to
nine after another network has their show seven to eight.
Let's say people are flipping around or finding a new show.
They're going to come and sample that first few minutes
of dancing with us, So they would put one of
the people that were getting like the best votes at
the top of the hour. It'd be either the first dancer,
the top of the hour dancer, or the end dancer.
I never knew this, And then once I finished the

(01:13:08):
whole season, I started to learn this. I realized most
episodes I was either the first dancer, the top of
the hour dancer, or the final dancer. Ye never knew
any of that until you tell me, Bob.

Speaker 7 (01:13:19):
Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, I kind of. I meant to
say bob by, but you didn't want to keep interrupting.
I want to stop. I want to stop because I've
already got scolded my mom to day. All right, Sam Darnold,
and uh, I'm sorry. I started to say your name,
but I just wanted to stop. We're done. That is
Matt Castle. That is Kickoff Kevin. That is Brandon Ray.

(01:13:40):
That is Nick Smith.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
He is a fictional character that we created today that
we just throw in for no reason.

Speaker 7 (01:13:46):
At all, anytime we want. I'm Bobby Bones. Thank you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:13:48):
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Speaker 7 (01:14:01):
If you don't, thank you guys. Thank to Lagarette Blanche.
We'll see you guys next week. Have box to Say, Fireblo.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
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