25W: Bobby's One Listener Request Re: Eddie's Interview with 2x NASCAR Cup Series Champion Kyle Larson + The Issue with Billionaires in CFB with On3's Andy Staples + What Real-World Job Resembles a CFB Head Coach?

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Speaker 3 (01:23):
A podcast called twenty five Stocking fun Ball and they
are well whist so yet to bet?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
But what did you expect?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
It's a podcast called twenty five.

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Whistles Wine Win.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Welcome to the show. Blow that whistle somebody, thank you
very much. We do have one of my favorite commentators,
Andy Staples coming up, who's great college football. And then
Eddie interviewed Kyle Larson, who's a two time NASCAR Cup winner,
and I don't know, I had to leave for I

(01:59):
think a dog's appointment. So you did it? How to go?

Speaker 5 (02:02):
It was good man.

Speaker 6 (02:02):
I mean I didn't really watch the race, but I
made it seem like I did.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
There you Go, which is got the history of all
my interviews.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
But I did get a recap of the race.

Speaker 6 (02:11):
I saw like clips of the end, which was a
crazy ending, and.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
He think it was weird that it was you.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
I don't know if anyone told him that it wasn't
going to be you. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, did
he ever know that it wasn't? He never thought you
were me.

Speaker 6 (02:25):
Never addressed a He never addressed it and you can
tell it was a long night before because.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
He was tired. Yeah, but it was a good interview, man.
It was cool talking though a couple of things. One
I do want to start with the guy that Dallas
Cowboy player died. Do you know Marshawn Neeland?

Speaker 7 (02:39):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Okay, So Cowboys second year defensive end Marshawn Neeland dies
at twenty four years old.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
He's currently on the team, right, Mike.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
I believe he was. I didn't know him, but I
believe he was on the team.

Speaker 8 (02:49):
I believe he was the one who returned the block
punt last game.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
What the team did not disclose in details how he died.
He was a second round pick in twenty twenty four
out of Western Michigan. Wow. He scored a touchdown on
Monday Night versus the Cardinals when the Cowboys blocked a
punt a huge play. Yeah, and they're not saying what
they're not saying wire how I guess we'll figure it out. Oh,
I gotta put heapones, Kevin.

Speaker 5 (03:11):
I know, I kind of have my headphones close.

Speaker 7 (03:13):
I have.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I can't big headphones. Yeah, that's what I need, monster sized.

Speaker 5 (03:24):
Head you can put them behind you.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
I think we have to lose the stupid hats.

Speaker 5 (03:27):
No, sorry, I know.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Okays off this week? Okay, so big, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
That's the joke Brandon.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
Brandon's like, why are you taking it off? Don't you
get it? It's funny because it's so big.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
What are they called? What are those hats called?

Speaker 1 (03:50):
They have a name though, right, Yeah, I don't know
what they're called.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
When they first came out.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
We made these, We bought a generic shell and then
had Abby paint them.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Oh that's the one she painted.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Is that didn't make Arkansas win? She paid it two
for me. Dude.

Speaker 6 (04:02):
When those first came out, like that was the funniest
thing ever to see people wearing that.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
What do you think about the UFC and the suspicious betting?
Do you know about it?

Speaker 7 (04:10):
No?

Speaker 5 (04:10):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
I saw a headline, but I thought I just thought
he was Dana White was talking about the other stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
What's going on there?

Speaker 5 (04:17):
Great? I bet on UFC every weekend. What is happening?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Suspicious betting activity before a fight last weekend has led
to an unlikely partnership. The UFC in the FBI are
now actively working together in an investigation of wagering prior
to a fight between Isaac Dulgarian and Steve Garcia. Yadi
or del Vall I don't know, Oh no, no, the
word and is close to Dulgiyan, So it looks like

(04:45):
Isaac Dulgarian and Yadi a del val who that sws up.
Dana White says UFC was alerted to the potential problem
by Sports Wagering Watchdog Integrity Compliance three six. He specifically
concerning abnormal betting interest. What I had heard was right
before the fight, the odds shifted tremendously and the guy

(05:07):
who was the favorite ended up losing. He was minus
two fifty, but he lost in the first round by submission,
and there was a massive shift right before even with
the odds. Did you bet that one?

Speaker 5 (05:16):
I'm looking I got Steve Garcia, which that was a.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Huge win for me.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
What is it? Arnie delG Guillon, Doulgary.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Isaac Dulgarian Nope, I might have been an Arnie Isaac Dulgarian. Yeah,
look look at me. I lost on that one. Oh,
look at that. You need to call you need to
call the FBI media.

Speaker 6 (05:37):
After this, he was favored minus one sixty two, which
isn't a heavy favorite.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I think it was shifting. Did you bet that right
before the match?

Speaker 6 (05:45):
That might have been a live bet because one sixty
two is odd, it's usually not like a two.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
Dang, that's crazy, dude, they got me?

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Who do we want to be in the triangle this week?

Speaker 5 (05:58):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Oh, oh, well who got it? Who lost it last week? Well,
Kevin lost lost it, but he has a good record.
He has a good record. Get give it to give
it to Brandon.

Speaker 9 (06:10):
Anyone's no part at.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
The feeling that I have when I lose my leg
of it, Like it's sometimes I just kind of want
to like.

Speaker 5 (06:19):
End it, like it's it's it's that feeling.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
It's you don't want to kill yourself feeling. No, it's
not you don't want to kill yourself because you missed
one of the triangle.

Speaker 6 (06:28):
It is because I let you guys, down, and not
only just you guys, all are listeners who like bet
on that too, Like I, nobody wants to lose people
money and I did.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
That when you don't want to kill yourself though, because
you're one of the angle.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
I'm not saying. I'm not saying I want to kill myself.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
It's the it's what you said, It's the feeling of
like that. Okay, do you guys want to do it?

Speaker 5 (06:48):
Brandon?

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Do you guys feel good? Brandon? You can go first?
What is your what is your bet? All right, I'm
gonna do uh.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Indiana minus fourteen and a half overpinn State, Indiana is
like the cop out.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
They are going to Penn State Indiana mine fourteen and
a half. That's all, Okay. The reason I didn't pick
that is because I've been picking it every week and
I feel like Penn State's actually a better team than
people give them credit for. They don't have their starting
quarterback obviously, but they still have a bunch of dudes,
and Indiana's been killing folks. I think eventually that has

(07:24):
to end. I think they'll still win, right, but that's
why I didn't pick them. But fifteen isn't killing folks.
You know, yeah, fair enough. I'm in a zag week.
Everybody's zigging. I'm zagging, Kevin.

Speaker 9 (07:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna go with Yes, it's Alabama. Oh I
do have my Vandy shirt on. Yeah. I thought about
Vandy for a second there, But I'm gonna go with
Alabama minus ten is the last time I saw it?

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Yeah, it's LSU at number four. Alabama Alabama minus ten.
All right, so far two favorites. Now there is a
new narrative of that possibly Oregon is not good and
not near as good as we thought because their biggest
win is well, Penn State. They killed Rutgers, isn't they Yeah,
but again I think we could beat Ruggers with us three. Yes,

(08:15):
that's four with Mike, And so the narrative is that
maybe Oregon is not as good as we thought they were.
But I think that Penn State win was actually bigger
than people are given a credit for. It was a
night game, it was a wide out. Aler was still
the quarterback. They James Franklin was still the coach. There
was some unity, there was some consistency, and Iowa is

(08:36):
starting to be looked at as a team that has
a chance to make it like, I don't even think
Iowa was in the Apee Pole, but they were ranked
twenty ath whenever the CFP come out came out. So
I'm going Oregon minus six and a half because most
people are thinking the Oregon maybe isn't as good. So
I'm fighting the zig. I'm going to zag. I'm going Oregon.
Is that good? I like it.

Speaker 9 (08:56):
I didn't realize Iowa was six and two.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, they lost by one point. I think to Indiana.
If you look back, you can correct me on this
because I do have in front of me.

Speaker 9 (09:07):
Yeah, on like a last second or a last minute
player long past. I do remember that.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, and I think that that when is starting to
look better and better the more the season goes by,
because we're seeing Indiana as a real team.

Speaker 9 (09:20):
Five Oh they did was scored twenty to fifteen. Okay, yeah,
I know it's through Iowa's fashion. So okay, that's gonna
be our parlay. Everybody good on that.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yep, it's going to be Indiana minus fourteen and a half.
It's going to be Alabama minus ten and then over
on my side, I'm going to have Oregon minus six
and a half at number twenty Iowa Boom. Your team
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go over and talk with college football writer for on

(10:13):
three Sports and Yahoo's Sports Andy Staples. I'm a big
Andy Staples fan. Andy's worked for The Athletic and Sports
Illustrated and he's great at talking about nil and portal
and coaching changes. Also, if you're looking for a great
sports show, he hosts a daily show called Andy and
Ari on three, which you can listen to wherever you
get your podcasts. You can also follow him on socials.

(10:34):
Andy underscore Staples here he is Andy Staples. All right,
we have Andy Staples on with us. One of my
favorites when it comes to college football. It's kind of
a college football holiday because as soon as they put
out that first, here we go. These are the twelve.
It used to be, you know, they put out all
right there, this is the rankings. We have four teams,
but now it's twelve. I love the playoff. Who do

(10:56):
you think is the big I don't want to use
the word fraud, so let me let me reverse. Who
do you think on the list now in those twelve
probably will not be there whenever it's time to actually
have the tournament.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Well, Texas is number eleven.

Speaker 10 (11:09):
I think they've got to play at Georgia and they
got to play Texas A and M. I think they're
going to lose one of those, at least they might
lose both of them. So I think that's that's probably
the easiest one to just say they're probably not going
to be there now the way it's the way it's
actually ranked. Like now, Texas wouldn't be in any way
because you've got the highest ranked ACC team is below

(11:30):
twelve as well, so you've got to you've got to
pull them up, and then you've got to pull another
potential conference champ up. So I wonder if one of
Texas Tech or b YU drops out they play this weekend.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
I suspect they're going to wind up playing twice.

Speaker 10 (11:46):
I think they're going to play this weekend and then
probably play again in the Big twelve title game. The
way there's, the way they're ranked right now, suggests to
me that if it goes a certain way, like say
Texas Tech wins this one BYU wins out, they they
still might both make it. But that's one of those two,
and especially if Texa Tech loses the BYU this weekend,

(12:06):
I think you'll see them drop out.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I feel like the AEC is probably going to get
one slot unless there's again some magic that happens and
that Virginia is in. But I feel like that should
just a placeholder for acc You feel like that's accurate.

Speaker 10 (12:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, because Virginia's live so dangerously all season
and you look at the rest of their schedule. They
it's not exceedingly tough, but they also could lose any
game on that schedule. They play Wake Forest at Duke
and then they play Virginia Tech at Duke is the
really key one there because Duke is also in the

(12:42):
mix for the AEC title.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Duke only has one conference loss.

Speaker 10 (12:45):
They just happen to have two non conference losses, So
the glut at the top of the ACC is really
really weird because Virginia's undefeated in conference play though they've
lost to a conference team like they played NC State
and lost, but that was scheduled as a non conference game,
So very strange year in the ACC. And Louisville is

(13:07):
the one I think probably could wind up being the
best team in the ACC and could wind up being
in the playoff. I think that would make a lot
of sense. But the one I would watch out for
in the ACC is Pittsburgh. They they changed quarterbacks after
the Louisville loss. They only have one loss in conference play,
and Mason Heinscheal their freshman quarterback. They're five and oh
sin since they've put him in the starting lineup, so

(13:28):
they are a tricky one. And they play Miami and
Georgia Tech down the stretch, so they could have a
lot to say about this.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Is there a way because I haven't run through the
scenarios that Georgia Tech wins out but doesn't end up
in the AC Championship game. Therefore they could get in
with just a single loss. I feel like that would
be a possibility of a team not winning the championship,
the conference championship is still getting in.

Speaker 10 (13:51):
Yes, that is definitely possible because it would depend on
tie breakers. You probably need Virginia to win out, so
Virginia would take one ACC Championship game slot, and then
because of tiebreakers, some other team with one loss in
the ACC goes in over Georgia Tech. But as you said,
in your scenario, Georgia Tech wins out, which means they
beat Georgia at the end of the season, and so

(14:12):
they'd have a win over probably a playoff team. We're
assuming Georgia will come into that game with only one loss. Still,
maybe they won't. They do play Texas next week, but
eleven to one, with a win at Georgia at the
end of the season, probably it's gonna get you in. So, Bobby,
I think that is a is a very plausible scenario,
and the Georgia fans are probably plausible guys.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
They took you to eight overtimes in Alfens last year.

Speaker 10 (14:37):
It's not completely out of their own possibility.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
They have Memphis in again, I'm gonna put that as
a placeholder for whomever wins the and it doesn't have
to be the American obviously, like a James Madison or
somebody else could could squeeze in as well. But it's
like Memphis, it's a USF right, like one of those three,
who else am I missing that could possibly get that spot.

Speaker 10 (14:58):
I think it's the American champ because I think that
the American is really deep at the top this year,
and so JMU has the one loss to Louisville.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
They're the best team in the Sun Belt.

Speaker 10 (15:08):
But I think if the committee is comparing the path
that they had to take, it's a lot harder to
get through the American this year than it is to
get through the Sun Belt.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
So I do think it's an American champ.

Speaker 10 (15:18):
You've got Memphis and Tulane playing this week, which feels
like an elimination game. Both have one loss in conference,
but you also have USF, which only has one conference loss,
North Texas only has one conference loss, and Navy only
has one conference loss. It's gonna be one of those
five that wins the championship. I think the American Champ
is the winner, but like you said, it's probably a

(15:38):
placeholder because I could not tell you which of those
five is gonna win.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
I didn't send you anything ahead of time. Andy's like
one of my favorite guys to listen to just in general,
like across the board, even when you do your own show.
So I'm just gonna throw some stuff at you because
some guys want to know. But I'm gonna ask you
about Virginia specifically. This is this an example of a
team spending some money and actually getting good? And is
it a bit I would compare to Indiana how we
learn that Signetti he comes in a coach can win quick.

(16:04):
I feel like Virginia spent some money and got good,
and other teams if they just commit money, they can
also get good.

Speaker 10 (16:09):
Your thoughts, well, there's two schools of thought on this,
and it is a fine line, I think.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
So you're exactly right.

Speaker 10 (16:17):
What Virginia did is they said, we can fire Tony
Elliott now and pay him buy out money, or we
can use that money to better the roster and give
him a better chance. So they went out, they get
Chandler Morris, they beef up that roster and they're clearly better.
So that's a case where that works. Now I'm looking

(16:38):
at Wisconsin right now, where there's a possibility they can
go too and ten this year they have said we
would like to bring Luke Fickle back. We just want
to give him more resources to donate to the roster
and see if that gets better. I don't know if
that gets any better. Because Tony Elliott was close, there
were games that were close, like Wisconsin doesn't feel competitive.
So I think you have to examine each in this

(17:00):
situation individually. And Tony Elliott is in it was in
a really different situation just because of everything that's happened
since he's been there. For those who don't remember, there
was a situation early in his tenure at Virginia where
a former Virginia player walked on a bus after a
school trip and murdered multiple other Virginia players, and Tony

(17:21):
elliotts had to deal with that and the fallout from that,
and so.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
His tenure has been viewed a little bit differently.

Speaker 10 (17:29):
It has not been a purely wins and losses kind
of thing, and so I think that's probably something that
was on their minds last year as they were trying
to figure out what do we do about this situation,
how do we best use our resources. But I do
think people are going to look at this and if
you feel like your coach is close. If you feel
like you like the culture that the coach brings, you
feel like the players like playing for that guy, and

(17:52):
you're just a few players away, then that's when you
do put more money toward the roster, when you feel
like it doesn't matter what the coach does. Like Auburn
and Hugh Freeze this past week, it didn't matter what
Hugh Freeze did. The same problems kept coming up over
and over and over again. You could have thrown a
bunch of more a bunch of more money at that
problem and it still wasn't going to change anything. So

(18:13):
you have to know as an ad what you have.
Are you actually close or is it somebody who's just
going to give you the same set of problems over.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
And over again.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
So I am a booster donor at Arkansas, but I
don't want to. I've chosen not to fly too close
to the sun, like I've had to learn, like I
don't want to not like people because I love it
so much and I've had it. You know, I'm not
going to like every coach we hire, and I don't
want to. So I've chosen to not fly so close
to the sun. But I have been privy to some
emails and I won't give specifics, but they have been

(18:43):
feeling out certain coaches, but not to the coach is
going to go from like a person to a person
that knows a person that over coach and you know
this better than anybody, and they would throw things out
like hey would they can They're in they're middle of
their season with a team that's winning, and they're going, hey,
would this person consider ten million a year? And it's
got to go through all these layers. That's happening a

(19:03):
lot everywhere right now, right where it's just media and
intermediaries talking intermediaries.

Speaker 10 (19:09):
It absolutely is, and sometimes it's pretty cut and dried,
like search firm guy calls coaches, agent says, what would
what would it take to get this person to school X?
And that's why you hire a search firm. It's I
think people get it confused. They think these ads hire
these search firms to pick the coach for them or
to give them a candidate pool.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
That's not what it is.

Speaker 10 (19:31):
You hire them so you have cover so that when
someone says, have you contacted so and so you can
say and not be lying, no, I have not.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Did your search firm contact them. Yes they have, but
you don't have to say that.

Speaker 10 (19:44):
And that's exactly what's going on right now, Bobby and
Arkansas is fascinating to me. I want to ask you
this because I watched what they did with John Calipery
and basketball, and they took big swings, but they also
when they went to him, they said, we are going
to make sure you are fully resourced in terms of

(20:07):
the roster that you can put together. And Tyson Foods
obviously donate quite a bit of money, and Arkansas has
big corporate backing. For those who don't know, I know
your listeners probably understand that completely because you talk about
him a little bit. But for the national audience, I
always try to explain, like, when you go to Northwest Arkansas,
it's not what you think it's going to be. It

(20:28):
is a place with a bunch of corporate headquarters, a
lot of new money, and Arkansas has access to that
in ways that other schools don't. And if you can
get your corporate money excited at Arkansas, you can make
a splash. And so that's what I wonder is because
we talk about the various candidates for this job, but

(20:50):
I kind of think that's one where you could get
the mystery person who you didn't think was movable because
they can get that corporate money excited.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
So specifically, John Tyson and Calipari had a relationship like
that's how that's how basketball essentially happened is a relationship.
The human element of John Tyson, big Arkansas guy loves John.
They've been friends forever and Kentucky and Calipari were not
They were not good. They were going to couples therapy
at the time. Obviously, yes, yes, it was not going.

(21:24):
So because of that relationship, mister Tyson stepped in and said, Hey,
basically I got this. I'm gonna need a little help,
but I got this. So but what's happening now, m Roughly,
I'll be very generic about what's happening now is all
these big all these dudes or women with money, they
want to have so much control if they give so

(21:45):
much money, and that that ends up.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
Business Texas for so so long.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, and it's starting because there is a ton of
corporate money. You could go through trucking companies or Chicken
companies or Walmart and they all buy buildings up there
and they can own the building. The problem is it's
hard to pull in billionaire money if the billionaire is
not pulling all the strings. And I'm feeling thinking, knowing
a bit, that that's what's happening right now, that if

(22:12):
we could pull that money, we'd pull up Bear Bryant,
put them through the machine, he'd be alive again, he'd know,
it would all be We'd have the resources to do that.
But it's hard to combine all of it because all
of it wants to have control, and that's where the
issue lies.

Speaker 10 (22:27):
Yeah, and that's the hardest problem. That was the problem
with Texas for so long. I remember talking to somebody
who worked there and they've gotten They've gotten everybody on
the same page at this point, which which is hard
to do. It's credit to their athletic director Chrystal Connie
for doing it. But I remember talking to somebody who
worked there ten fifteen years ago and they said, you
have these guys who are either multimillionaires in some cases billionaires,

(22:49):
that they are accustomed to whatever they say, everybody jumps
and does exactly what they want. But the problem is
when you have two billionaires and they want opposite things,
one of them is not going to go what they
want and then they freak out and they're not used
to that. So it is such a strange situation, And
like Arkansas is fascinating to me because I go back

(23:11):
to what Hunter Yurchik said when he fired Sam Pittman,
because he said, Hey, we are resourcing John Caliperry in
the way he needs to be resourced to compete at
the highest level. We were not resourcing Sam Pittman in
the way he needed to be resourced.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
So that's the question I.

Speaker 10 (23:26):
Would ask if I'm a candidate at Arkansas, is are
you going to give me the money.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
To compete at the top of the SEC? Because I
do think you can. Bobby. I had a segment on
my show where we were talking about this.

Speaker 10 (23:41):
This is before Sam got fired, and somebody had asked
me what I thought of the job, and I said, well,
I don't know, especially at a time when Missouri is
good and Ole miss is good, I just don't know
how many of those level of SEC programs can be
good at the same time. And a person in the
chat goes, Andy, what did you think of the old
miss job before before Lane Kiffin was hired, Like when

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when it was Matt Luke and he was getting fired.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
What did you say about the whole miss job? And
I'm like, you know what, I said the same thing.
So I'm wrong.

Speaker 10 (24:11):
I'm wrong on this because if you make the right higher,
be it Lane Kiffin at ole Miss, Eli Drinquitz at Missouri,
you can change your fortunes.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
In the SEC.

Speaker 10 (24:23):
You can move now, maybe you don't move all the
way to the top, but you can move into the
upper echelon with the right higher. So Arkansas has a
chance here. And that's the thing that like, I'm not
sure in the old system pre and il pre transfer
portal that Arkansas would have had a chance to move up.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Now it does.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
What about your school? What about Florida? What's happening?

Speaker 10 (24:48):
That was crazy because the fan base wants Lane Kiffen.
They're hell bent on getting Lane Kiffin. They think he
is the spiritual successor to Steve Spurrier. That's all they
want that. They don't don't want anybody else. But the
fact of the matter is Lane Kiffin has a really
good job. Right now, Ole Miss may go eleven and
one al Miss may play for the SEC championship. It's

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not fifteen years ago. Where if Florida or LSU wanted
the Ole Miss coach. They just snapped their fingers and
get him. It doesn't work that way anymore because the
ceilings are actually pretty similar and Ole Miss gives Lane
Kiffin everything they want, everything he wants.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
He has almost complete control.

Speaker 10 (25:26):
And I'm not sure going to get that at Florida
and I'm not sure going to get that at LSU.
And also, can you wait if Lane Kiffin is going
deep into the playoff, even if he wants to come,
can you wait on it? So that's a really interesting situation.
So then you talk about who would the other candidates be,
and I think it'd be Jeff Brahm at Louisville would
be a really good candidate for Flora's job, Eli Drinkwitz

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at Missouri, Jed Fish at Washington's of Florida grad. I think,
you know, he did an amazing job rebuilding Arizona. So far,
so good in the Washington tenure. But it's not going
to make the fan base happy unless it's Lane Kiffin.
And so they'll have to do some massaging. If they
can't yet Lane, they'll have to deal with, oh, you know,

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maybe don't win the press conference. I'm not a big
believer in. You have to win the press conference, you
have to win games. And the people I just named,
Jeff Brahm, Eli Drinkquitz, Jetfish, all of them are really
good coaches, all of them are good recruiters. They could
all succeed at Florida. I do think Lane would be
the best choice, but I'm not sure he's going to
be available. I think there's a chance. Lane's just he's

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good at ol Miss.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
We've seen extensions from Signetti from rule from these guys
mid season to go Hey, I'm saying we haven't seen
that from Lane. Is that an indicator of anything.

Speaker 10 (26:43):
Yeah, it's either he's driving the price up still or
he is seriously considering a move. And the fact that
LSU's open changes the math on all this too, because
I think before LSU opened, the one he would consider
leading for is Florida. But I think you would probably
consider leading for LSU as well, And so if I
were him, I would milk this for all it's worth.

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I would drive the price as high as human as possible.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
And then do that.

Speaker 10 (27:09):
Really it comes down to, like I just said, because
they can all pay about the same, I think you
can win the national title at any of the three.
If you do it right, it just comes down to
where you want to work, and so he's going to
have to decide that.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I was looking at the odds because they put him
out a Big Ten championship game, and I think Ohio
State is three and a half point favorite if they
were to play today over Indiana. Who's the better team
in your opinion.

Speaker 10 (27:35):
I think it's Ohio State because they have the best
players in the country at certain positions. So Caleb Downs
and rvel Rees are the two best defensive players in
the country, like not just at their positions, they're the
two best in the country and they're on the same team.
Jeremiah Smith is the best receiver in he well, in

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five years he will be the best receiver in the world.
He will be better than Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase.
But he's definitely the best receiver in college football right now.
Carnel Tait, if he's not number two, he's top five
best receivers. And then Julian's saying, I gotta tell you,
he's evolved as the season has gone on, and I
think that they've handled his development really well.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Where if you go back to that Texas game.

Speaker 10 (28:21):
They were not putting it in positions where he had
to be superman or do anything really drastic. I was
at the Penn State game last week in Bobby, and
this guy is awesome. Like they're taking the chains off
a little bit, letting him do some things, and he
may wind up being the best quarterback in the country.
I still think that's probably Ty Simpson right now in Alabama.

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But the way Julian saying is developing week to week,
it's pretty scary, and so I think that's why I
would take Ohio State in that matchup that stead I
have a hard time picking against Kurt Signette.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
I have a rule on the show now.

Speaker 10 (28:56):
I think I picked UCLA to cover twenty four and
a half against a few weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (29:01):
I'm done with that.

Speaker 10 (29:02):
Like if Indiana's favored, I'm picking Indiana to cover. Like
they they just dominate people. They crushed people, and I
think they're gonna keep doing that. Like there are two
touchdown favorite at Penn State this week. Imagine going, you know,
into a time machine to the middle of twenty twenty
three when Indiana was busy going three to nine and saying, hey,

(29:24):
in two years the Hoosiers are going to go on
the road too Happy Valley and there'll be two touchdown
favorites the person would have had you committed.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
That Indiana Team's interesting because again when he came over,
he brought a lot of jam you guys with him.
But it didn't feel like and again the headline just
could have buried the other, but it didn't feel like
it was a Virginia type situation where they just invested
a whole bunch more money. It's like they invested in
the guy and he brought some of his guys and
it wasn't a We're going to toss a ton of
NIO money out at least that first year. Am I
correct about that it was more of a coach u

(29:54):
ult thing.

Speaker 10 (29:56):
Yeah, it's a coach culture thing, and it's an understing.
And the thing is they also did some stuff with
some of the guys they inherited. I don't think people realize,
like Carter Smith, their left tackle, was one of the
guys they inherited.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
I believe he. I believe he's Simon Indiana out of
high school.

Speaker 10 (30:12):
I'm trying to remember what they had one lineman who
had transferred in from Wisconsin that they ended up doing something,
but he had transferred in when Tom Allen was there.
So they've found ways to take these guys that were
not at another school, that were not at James Madison,
and they've gotten a lot out of them too. But
it also helps that they brought this core from James Madison.

(30:34):
Elijah Surratt, D'Angelo Pond's, you know, Aidan Fisher that knew
exactly what Kurt Signetti expected.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
But it's funny because people now.

Speaker 10 (30:43):
Make that the excuse when because I think I call
Kurt Signetti the destroyer of excuses. All these coaches that say,
well I need time, this is a bill, this is
a process. Well, Kurt Signetti has put the lie to
all of that. If you're good enough, you don't need time.
And they said, well yeah, but he brought his own players.
He brought his players from the Sun Belt, Like, you're

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not supposed to be able to do this.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
I think it's just he's a really good coach.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Final question, we were talking before he came on about
all the things that you're doing because you're in a
lot of different places. How are you not repeating your
same material in different places? Because I find it's difficult
for me to do too. But again, especially right now,
you're all over the place. How are you trying to
keep things independent of each other?

Speaker 10 (31:24):
Well, So I have my show at on three, which
is me and Ari Wasserman together, and a lot of
it is so Bobby, you're your solo, which, God bless you.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
I don't know how you do it.

Speaker 10 (31:34):
I'm terrible solo and can't imagine just talking into the
void because I always wonder what people are thinking and
what there's If I can't get a reaction, I start
losing confidence.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
So I like working with other people on shows.

Speaker 10 (31:49):
So I have Ari Wasseron as my co hostedt on three,
and he is a lunatic and thinks differently than every
other human on earth. So anything I bounce off of
Ari on our show is going to go in a
completely different direction than any other conversation I have, whether
I'm a guest on somebody's show or I also do
a show at Yahoo called The College Football Inquirer with

(32:11):
Ross Dellinger and Stephen Godfrey. We can do the same
and we have done this where same day, same topic.
It's completely different because the way those guys interpret everything
and the way our interprets everything are completely different, so
they'll take me in different directions too. But yeah, it's
funny because there are times though, when it's a big

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week and you're doing a lot of shows that you're like, Okay,
I wonder how many people like, what's the Venn diagram?
With people who listened to that last show I did
and who listened to this show. I got a good
joke off on it last show, so maybe I can
squeeze it out here.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Too, Andy underscore Staples. I'm a massive fan of what
you do and how you present it. I really appreciate
the time, and yeah we'll put in the notes we
were talking about before you came on how to catch
all your shows. But Andy, thank you for the time, man,
and hope you have a great rest of the week.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Thanks so much, Bobby, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1 (34:24):
I'm surprised when looking at the men's basketball odds that
Arkansas isn't a top ten team, right. And I'm not
being a homer here because that last year I was like,
I don't think we have it to win at all,
and they would go pretty far. I think we have
a shot to win at all.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
But they're being haters because nobody knows anything. It's like
they haven't played anyone. All these teams that haven't played.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
None of them. But Purdue's gonna be great. Yeah, but yeah,
everybody loves Painter the coach, and Houston's probably gonna win
the Big Twelve and they're they're number one, a plus nine.

Speaker 6 (34:53):
To fifty Perdue played like Memorial High School and they
didn't look great.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
They did, but their guys came back. Yeah yeah, I know,
except for one I think, but their whole team came back.
Kentucky and Yukon Duke Michigan, Florida BYU Saint John's Louisville, Kansas.
I'm telling you, I don't ever say smart money, but
I would bet Arkansas because the odds one are going
to be so high and we're really good to win

(35:18):
it all, but yeah, but you can always cash out or.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
Ken yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, how about like an Elite eight,
but again you can bet to win at all and
if they make the Elite A, you go and cash
out and get you money.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Okay, that's not bad. And then all of a sudden
they're playing in the Elite and get somebody who lost
their power forward and you're like, well, let's keep going
with this thing. But anyway, I saw that and as
a little shocked. How's kids sports going? Weird?

Speaker 6 (35:41):
So right now, my twelve year olds trying out for
the middle school basketball team.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
It's a two week long tryout.

Speaker 6 (35:49):
Like I don't know about you guys, but when I
was in school, it was one day and it lasted
maybe an hour and they're like all right, you go
the sheet of paper the next day and you're like, oh,
my name's not on the list.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Cool, I didn't make it. But like my son's, this
is two weeks. It isn't for multiple teams, Like, are
they're multiple?

Speaker 6 (36:05):
No, it's one team and they're gonna I think they're
picking twelve kids. Twelve is the number. I think there
are maybe twenty five trying out. I don't know the fact, dude,
every dad like we look at each other like every
time we drop off the kids and we're not we're
not allowed in.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Uh. They take Yeah, that's weird. You said that about
basketball too. They tape the windows, They send a note out.
What's doing to your kids?

Speaker 5 (36:29):
I don't know what I'm saying, dude.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
They send a note out and said no peeking through
the windows. Absolutely no parents invited to the tryouts.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
And I understand why. I understand why, but two weeks
seems lot a lot. The taping of the windows feels weird. Yeah, yeah,
you're telling me. I'm the dad. I'm like, what are
they doing on there? So you have drop them off
for two weeks and you don't.

Speaker 6 (36:45):
Know no, that today's the last, the last tryout day,
and then they find out next week if they made
the team or not, which pretty sure my son makes
the team. He's a good basketball player, but he's not
told this is basketball.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I said baseball, that was basketball? Got it? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (37:00):
So does he feel about it?

Speaker 1 (37:01):
He thinks he's gonna make it.

Speaker 6 (37:02):
He's got a good gauge, he knows this is the
first this is for the school.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
But didn't they have a tryout where you weren't invited, Like,
it's very similar.

Speaker 6 (37:10):
This is like three years ago, and it was to
get into a league, got it, And that was like
we can sit out the doors, sit outside the gym
doors or whatever.

Speaker 5 (37:17):
And I get it.

Speaker 6 (37:18):
You don't want you don't want the parents in there
yelling at the kids, or the kids getting distracted by
looking at the parents to make sure they're doing good
at the tryouts. I understand that part. But the two
weeks of an uninvited closed door tryout is bizarre to me.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
But you understand why not the two weeks, but the
no parents.

Speaker 5 (37:38):
No parents, I understand, I do.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Two weeks that seem like a long time. There are
some parents that are too much. Do you think you're
too much of Nope, you say sometimes.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
That you not on practices, No, But I think it's
just in general games. Yeah, sometimes when you're watching a game,
you don't realize how much you're yelling, you know, like
and then my wife, my wife and I kind of
help each other with it, like settle down, you're yelling
too hard, or she'll tell me, like, you're yelling too
hard and you don't even notice it.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
Dude, you're just in it.

Speaker 6 (38:06):
It's almost like if you're in an NBA game, you're
just yelling, like what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Except I know, I know I'm not getting paid a
little bit different. I know, I know. I saw the
clip you brought in from Coach Stark. Dude, I couldn't
agree with him more. Set it up.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
Coach sarks On at the podium talking about just schools
firing coaches, and he's just saying, like, you know, you
keep firing coaches, who are you going to hire? Like
there's a problem when you do this, who are you
going to hire? And there's also a culture of like
school's not giving the coach then enough time to build
a team, and just getting rid of coaches.

Speaker 11 (38:41):
Everybody wants to fire their coach.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Who are you going to hire?

Speaker 11 (38:43):
There's all these jobs out there right now, who's everybody
going to hire? I don't know, we'll find out we're
somebody's got to be the head coach. The amount of
you know, one week you're hero the next week year
zero mentality that that fan bases and people want to have.
Surely coaches want some security to what they signed up
to go do. We work really hard and I get it.
We all want to win, and we're all busting our

(39:06):
tails to try to win, and sometimes things don't go
your way, especially in our conference.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
It's tough.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
What do you think?

Speaker 5 (39:14):
I think?

Speaker 1 (39:14):
I was talking to Brandon Marcelo about this last week,
and Stark may have heard me talking and taken my theory.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
That's got to be what happened.

Speaker 9 (39:21):
Knew I heard it before because I said that exact
same thing.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
You're gonna have a lot of teams look back and go, dang,
we shouldn't have fired a coach because now everybody's losing more.
And had we fired them five to seven years ago
would have made more sense because we had worse non
conference games. There were only four teams making the BCS playoff. Now,
if you don't make the tournament, like everybody wants their

(39:44):
coach gone.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
And that's what he's saying too, right, Like he's saying
partly what you said, and he's saying always a lot
of what you said. But he's also saying too like
this whole okay, you don't make the playoffs and you
fire your coach like you're not always going to win well.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
And also so when you fire a coach, the worst
thing that's gonna happen for a fan bases go, we
don't want to retread. But there are all these great
coaches that were fired for reasons that probably were a
bit irresponsible to be fired for, and now they're considered
a retread and fan bases aren't happy. But I would
love there are a couple of retreads that I would
love to have in Arkansas. But like that Jane Franklin

(40:19):
will be awesome. Yeah, like you want a Vanderbilt, he
went up and want a bunch of gains and pens
day like average ten a year. He seems like a
smart dude too.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I don't know him.

Speaker 6 (40:29):
I don't I don't either, but he seems like someone
who knows what he's doing. There are some coaches that
look like they're probably smart, but they don't look like
they know what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Another one Sandusky, Nope.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
Where where is he?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Jim? Yeah, he's in jail.

Speaker 5 (40:46):
He's in jail.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
I don't know. Can you watch football in there? I
don't know what they do in jail. I hope everything
bad happens him. I was just using that as an
example of like the worst possible redread anyone.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
I wasn't going to playing too much golf. No, like
you Freeze.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, no, like I was going to the absolute worst
coach the fan base could possibly have.

Speaker 8 (41:09):
It he could get out in twenty forty two at
the age of eighty one.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Hey, I'm gonna tell you what, We'll probably hire him
if I know us we have, if we have this
same administration, we'll probably put a floater in there and
see he's available. Yeah, I think the retread thing gets
I did see where it's been rumored that possibly Kevin
Did you see this Lane Kiffin? No, no, not Lank Kiffin,

(41:32):
Lincoln Riley.

Speaker 9 (41:34):
Oh no, I have not seen that at all.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Yeah, maybe Lincoln Kansas LSU.

Speaker 9 (41:39):
Wait, Targans are LSU not Arkansas?

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Too liked he said to l s U. And if
you remember when he was at Oklahoma, they were doing
the press conference and the LSU job was open, and
they kept asking him, are you taking the LSU job?
And he said, I'm not taking the l U job,
and the bails off USC, and that that was his
way to around it. Was nobody asked them about the
USC job, and they didn't say are you leaving? They
were like, there's a lot of rumors about you in

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the LSU job. He's like, I'm not taking the LU job.

Speaker 9 (42:06):
Would you if you're an LSU fan, would you want
him that bad?

Speaker 6 (42:13):
He's not a bad coach, He's I think he's a
really good coach, especially if he has the right defensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
I would like Lincoln Riley. I don't think they're gonna
get unless they get Lane Kiffin. They're going to be upset.

Speaker 9 (42:25):
Yeah, agreed.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
So I think Lincoln Riley is a great fallback if
you don't get Lane Kiffin.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
Is ole miss cool with all Lane Kiffin talk like
they can't do anything about it.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
They can't.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
It's weird because these coaches signed contracts, but it doesn't matter.
It's actually, instead of a contract contracting their services for
a certain amount of time, it is a contract that
says how much another school has to pay to hire
your coach as a buyout. That's basically what it's turned into.
Like I am in the middle of a contract with

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our company and another company couldn't come and just be like,
hey like to hire you, and I'm like, allright, them out.
I have a contract. Yeah, there's no buyout clause in it.
If there was a buyout clause. That awesome. Maybe you
should be It'd be crazy if we get traded, because
I trade a couple of those fools, like right.

Speaker 5 (43:17):
Now, we would just trade people.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
I would get some good I would get some good value.

Speaker 6 (43:22):
Yeah, you know what, though sometimes I would be asked
to be traded, get me out of here.

Speaker 5 (43:27):
Give me, trade me as leverage. I don't know. You
hear that in sports, how they go to the coach
or trade me.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Like there's a couple of folks i'd trade for, like
a couple of good cameras, you know how they do
like pcassion incentives, not even people. I don't even you
know what, I don't need people at this point. I yes,
we need some technology so that and yeah, i'd be
crazy if we could trade people. That would be cool.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
And a buyout clause, you should just propose it.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
If somebody pays ten million dollars, they can hire me
as long as they pay you the money to the company. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (44:00):
I don't really want that though, like like a A
and M guy, you know, Jimbo Jimbo.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Yeah, well that's a buyout seventy million. But also it
works both ways with those coaches, meaning if a school
wants to come and hire them. They can at any point,
but they got to pay the buy out or right
if at the school that currently owns that contract. And uh,
you know, the coach works for them. If they want
to fire then that they have to pay out the
buy out to the coach. So either way, you know,

(44:30):
the coach makes some money.

Speaker 6 (44:31):
Is there another job where you get fired as much
as coaches do?

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Oh? Yeah, that's a good question. Though. Let's think about that, hmm,
because like coaches, Like, sorry, dude, I think I don't
think that coaches are getting fired a lot. Well this
year they are this year more than ever. But I'm
saying it's like people winning the lottery. I don't have
a lot of time.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
Put the theory together, so I know and I just
threw this out, so follow me here.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
We hear a lot of stories about people want a lottery.
They're very high profile stories. Yeah, it's like only if
somebody wins a billion five hundred million. Most people aren't
winning the lottery. Okay, I see what you're saying. And
so whenever a big time coaching job is open, it
is all over the news all the time. There are
probably and Mike, you could look up how many Division one,
Division two schools, Division three schools. There are probably hundreds

(45:20):
and hundreds of total college schools. Yeah, and this is
a big year because there are three hundred possibly, But
there's what and it turns up being twenty jobs open
in a big year, and a lot of that's carousel too,
so there's really only a certain amounts. And then all
these other jobs open because other coaches took other jobs.
So I don't think it's that there are so many
jobs open. I think they're just high profile jobs that

(45:40):
we hear about.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
But then is.

Speaker 6 (45:44):
Alcorn State firing their coach because they didn't win?

Speaker 5 (45:48):
Yeah, possible games?

Speaker 1 (45:49):
Possibly are they?

Speaker 6 (45:51):
Because I feel like the smaller schools they're just like,
you know what, like we lost four games, We'll give
you two more years, three more years.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
I think smaller schools are a feeding system to bigger
school or they have longer to build. They're given man
four to seven years at smaller schools.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
And there's less lightballs on them, less pressure to win.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
And also when you say coaches getting fired, there are
also forty coaches on every staff.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
True, I guess we're talking about head coach.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Yeah, I'm just saying we know a lot of them
because it's a high profile job that makes the news.
So it's a job whe people get fired a lot.
But I bet people get fired in business every day
all the time. Sales people get fired all the time.
So we just it's just in the news. It's like
plane crashes.

Speaker 6 (46:33):
It's kind of harder to get fired though in the
corporate world, right like in there like a lot of
paperwork to fire people.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Well there's also a lot of college you got to
make to donors and boosters to get money to fire coaches.
Oh yeah, so I remember the whole plane crash thing
where there was a new store by a plane crashing
or smoking out or something, or when there are fights
all the time. Yeah, I don't think that was something
that was happening all the time or in a lot
of places. But when it did, man, it was highlighted
and talked about a lot. I think that's basically what

(46:58):
it is now. It's more this than ever before, especially
the big jobs. But I don't think generally speaking, it's
a profession where a lot of people are just getting
fired WILLI nilly, because there's real money involved. But it
does seem like it's fine, it is, I mean fun
for us, it's fine. Yeah, it's fine.

Speaker 8 (47:20):
Turnover rate is kind of comparable to CEOs or politicians.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Yeah, you can fire politicians, yeah, not relect them. Oh
yeah yeah, I would assume that would be what a
firing of a politician is like, not re electing him.

Speaker 9 (47:34):
Yeah, serve a term and you're done.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Well. You could also serve a term and be done
and do what most I feel in that world should
do is do your couple of terms then get out
and not be a lifelong politician. But most don't do that.
They just want to get re elected. Okay, I want
to get over to this interview Eddie did Oh.

Speaker 6 (47:50):
It's a fantastic interview, one of the best, one of
the best we've ever done on the podcast.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
Really, I'm excited to not hear it with new.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (47:59):
And I know ever will.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
Great.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Now you're telling everyone listening don't listen to it. I
didn't say that, But why would I listen to it?

Speaker 6 (48:07):
I don't know, just because you and this is one
thing you you like texting me like, hey, how did
the interview go?

Speaker 5 (48:11):
And I was like, do you want to hear it?
I was thinking to myself like.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Or you haven't heard it. If you want me to
hear it, I would listen.

Speaker 5 (48:18):
I would like, I would like for you to hear.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
But I've got I've got my secondary years making sure
that it's good, which is mine.

Speaker 5 (48:24):
Oh what did you hear? What did you hear?

Speaker 1 (48:26):
There? No, what I hear is if it makes it,
it's good. Oh okay, good. He's not gonna put something
on it's not good. I just didn't get any feed
back even with a show. If like, there's something that's
not good, Mike didn't tell me. He'll just pull it.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
Yeah I know that, or he'll or he'll.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Edit something in a way that I don't have to
worry about it. And if Mike's like, no, it worked,
let's go.

Speaker 8 (48:45):
Yeah, it wouldn't be on that sheet if it wouldn't good.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 5 (48:48):
But you guys understand this thing.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
You can say, hey, listen to it, and I'm happy
to listen to it. I don't know what you want.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
Don't have to it's okay, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 8 (48:54):
If you want him to critique it, yeah no, actually
I really don't know.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
I'm happy to give you feedback. Oh no, I'm good.

Speaker 9 (49:01):
You'll get a two minute voice message later.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
But that's the thing. You will get it. I'm good, dude,
I'm good. Did you ever send the Kenny Chesney interview
on Yeah? Oh you did?

Speaker 5 (49:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Okay, sent to read forgot you haven't gotten that? No.
I was thinking about it last night, but I went to bed.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
What about that?

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Yeah? Yeah, No, I got it off about Eddie and Kenny.
I was just asking Eddie for this Kenny Chesney interview.
I don't why I brought it up right now, but
I was thinking about it last night and I was like,
I'm too sleepy to grab my phone.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
If you would have had to tell me three times,
agot problem?

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Well, No, I was emailing Eddie to the wrong email address. Yes, yes,
because Eddie's very responsive. And I sent an email and
I was like, hey, will you send me the Kenny
Chesney interview. I want to find a couple of clips
for socials. And I got no response, so I sent
it again. I was like, hey, don't forget send me
that interview and nothing. So I text him. He text
me about something and I text him back and I
was like, Hey, what's up with that Kenny interview? And

(49:52):
he's like, what are you talking? About so I screen
shot out a couple of emails and he was like, dude,
is that like my Eddie sixty nine at gmail dot com.
I don't know. I just hit your name up there
and it sent it and that's what it was.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
I found it later after the best Biro.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
That's on me. I literally just type ed and the
Eddie populates into the thing. But yeah, yeah, yeah, here
we go. Let's get over to this talk. Hey Brandon,
those hats are funny, but were wearing thing? Yeah, those
are so funny, they're big, They're funny. Let's get over
to uh Eddie with NASCAR Cup Champion Kyle Larson.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
I've heard this interview is great.

Speaker 6 (50:28):
Shut up, I'm just playing the thing.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Anybody listening right now? Will you send me your notes
on Eddie's interview like dm me and Instagram your notes? No,
be kind, guys, No, I want to know what they
really think. It may be Eddie did great, Amy did
an interview with what Andy Bosco. Yeah, that we put

(50:54):
up on the Bobby Bone Show because it was for
women to buy our country and we only use parts
of it, and so we put the whole thing up
and for the most part, people were positive about it.
I don't think people are going hard for the sake
of going hard.

Speaker 5 (51:04):
Okay, well, I feel that with this setup you're setting
them up.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
I'm just asking give us a few critique lines.

Speaker 6 (51:10):
Yeah, three, yeah, and be be real, be real or
oh this could hurt See this is what I'm worried about.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
So these are the two things I would say one
either DM me or two. If you're listening on Spotify,
there's the comment section. Oh oh no, right, but write
us a critique of Eddie's interview here.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
But would this hurt our streaming?

Speaker 1 (51:36):
No, it would help it.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
We love the even it was just like, this is
the worst thing interview I've ever heard in my life.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Nope, we just love engagement. Okay, all right, here we go.
Kyle won the championship on Sunday, and some people say
it was kind of a cheap win because he didn't
actually win the race. Is something we find out about here.
Not really how did not win the race if he
won the.

Speaker 6 (51:55):
Race, because it's not how it works, like you don't
have to actually win the race that he was right,
Oh yeah, of course know how that works.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
So I don't know how he's got enough points and
you finished in a high enough spot. And you'll hear it.
It's not a cheap one.

Speaker 6 (52:04):
You'll hear in the interview he took two tires instead
of four. Denny Hamlin, who could have won as well,
took four tires. That was on him. So it takes
longer to put four tires on and it takes two.
That's why they think you want.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
You can now follow Kyle on social media at Kyle
Larson Racing. Here he is the great Eddie with Kyle Larson.

Speaker 6 (52:23):
We're here with two time NASCAR Cup Series champ Kyle Larson. Dude,
this yesterday was crazy, man like that. That race was nuts.
So run me through the end of that race where
William Byron goes out he hits the wall. You've got
a decision to make. You're in the caution and you

(52:45):
decided to go with two tires. Who decided to go
with two tires? Was that you or who made that call?
Because obviously it was the right call.

Speaker 12 (52:52):
Yeah, I think it was just a team decision.

Speaker 7 (52:54):
We were all kind of on the same page there,
you and the caution came out. We have our own
little code words for what you know means what for
whether it's four tires or two tires, and uh, I
kind of like threw it out there like hey, what
are you guys thinking about this? And they're like, oh,
we're definitely doing that, Like all right, let's let's go.
I think that's our only shot to win here. And yeah,

(53:15):
we just exeued a good pit stop and yeah I
was able to uh do we had to do there?
So yeah, as you mentioned, just a crazy finish for us.
You know, we were pretty average all day at best,
and you went a lap down in the third stage
and just uh never gave up and and I think

(53:35):
that was that was it and that's what you know,
got us got us at championship.

Speaker 6 (53:40):
Are you saying that you have code words because everyone
can hear the radio talk, Yeah.

Speaker 7 (53:45):
Every team kind of has code words because yeah, you're
you're you're trying to decoy a little bit, you know
what you're gonna do because yeah, all the all the
teams are scanning the radio of all the other race cars.
So yeah, you just try to keep keep things a
little bit of a secret. And that's how you do
that with with the code words.

Speaker 6 (54:04):
And when did you know that Denny took four tires?
And that immediately you're like, this is gonna this could work.

Speaker 12 (54:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (54:10):
So you know, my pit stall was like on the
complete opposite side of the racetrack as his. So we
did our pit stop, our two tires, and I came
out and the pit road kind of goes around turns
three and four, so you curve around.

Speaker 12 (54:22):
He was in the number one.

Speaker 7 (54:23):
Pit stall, so I was just trying to look as
far around as I could and just praying that he
wasn't taking two tires as well. And when I saw
they were taking four, and then as many people that
I have between him and I, you know, a few people,
I was like, man, we got a good shot here,
we got a little buffer, and I'm gonna try and
you rip hard on this restart through one and two,
and it just all worked out.

Speaker 6 (54:45):
I think what was so cool is as soon as
you want, when you crossed the finish line, you start
yelling like thank you, team, like we did it. How
many people go into this because obviously we watch and
we watch you race and we're like, this is Kyle.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
He does he's in charge, he he deserves to win.

Speaker 6 (55:01):
But there are so many people behind the scenes, Like
how many people are actually involved in this win.

Speaker 7 (55:05):
Well, I think there's like close to five hundred people
at hundred Motorsports, so and every single person has you know,
has a part in the four cars, the four hundred
Motorsports cars getting to the racetrack and and racing. So yeah,
it's a huge team win, but especially you know the
team of people at the racetrack or your core core

(55:27):
group and that you know, championship yesterday took every single
person there. So I was just blown away and shocked
and surprised and all of it, and just so proud
of the team for then they never give up attitude
and and do what we had to do to make
the the gutsy calls the right moment and then take
advantage of the moment.

Speaker 6 (55:47):
You said the car was like average at best. I've
heard you guys like I like to I like to
bet on NASCAR.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
It's one of my favorite things to do.

Speaker 6 (55:55):
So like sometimes i'll bet before the race starts, and
then it's as soon as I hear like you or
anyone on the radio say like, man, the car is loose,
this is not feeling right, immediately, well I lost that bet.
What what do you mean by that when you say
like the car's loose.

Speaker 7 (56:11):
Uh yeah, So when when you hear a driver saying
the car is loose, that means like the rear end
of the car wants to come around. When you say
you're tight, that means like the front end of the
car wants to hit the wall. So yeah, and then
you're just trying to find that right balance.

Speaker 12 (56:27):
Of where you got.

Speaker 7 (56:29):
You know, it's just kind of free and natural and
going around the corner easy. But yeah, my car yesterday
was it was all of it. I was tight and
loose and slow and frustrated and all of it.

Speaker 5 (56:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (56:44):
But see as soon as I hear that, I'm like,
that's lost. But that's not always the case. Is that
what you're telling me, Kyle? Is that not always the
case that even though it doesn't feel right, you could
still win.

Speaker 12 (56:53):
Yeah, And that's just the way NASCAR racing is.

Speaker 7 (56:55):
Because you get a late caution like we did yesterday,
and then you get you get strategy them into play
and you never know, you know what the clear cut
answer is, You don't know what other teams are going
to do.

Speaker 12 (57:06):
So it just gets wild and crazy.

Speaker 7 (57:08):
And and yeah, I would say more often than not,
I feel like in the Cup Series, the fastest car
doesn't always win. You know, there's so many elements into racing,
you know, with pit stops and and other competitors on
the track and and and like I mentioned.

Speaker 12 (57:24):
The strategies.

Speaker 7 (57:25):
It's just it gets wild and you got to be
prepared for those wild moments.

Speaker 6 (57:30):
Now we're recording this the day after your win. What happens?
What happens after you win? After the TV goes out,
we don't see you anymore, Like, how do you celebrate
this win?

Speaker 7 (57:40):
Well, for the championship, it's a lot of pictures, like
tons of pictures. My cheeks hurt today from smiling so much. So,
but yeah, it's it was about I don't know, close
to five hours or so of of you know, celebration
at the track and.

Speaker 12 (57:58):
Pictures like I mentioned in interviews and.

Speaker 7 (58:00):
All that, and then hurry home, shower and go go out.
You know, we went out in old town Scottsdale last
night and that was a blash. You know, the whole
team was able to come and and celebrate the championship. So, uh,
just really proud of everybody and cool to celebrate. You know,
we had a our team looked a lot different, you know,

(58:20):
from our first championship, so it was cool that, you know,
it was a lot of their first championships and hopefully
not their last.

Speaker 6 (58:26):
When you say you go out, what do you tell
the kids, Like, all right, guys, dad's got to go celebrate.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
That'll be back.

Speaker 7 (58:31):
I think they understood, they knew what we were going
to do last night. So yeah, we we brought a
nanny out with us this trip.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
So smart, helpful.

Speaker 6 (58:42):
Yeah, it's funny because like my kids, you know, they
think every dad's on the radio or has a podcast
or whatever, and it's not the case. Like, no, man,
not every kid's not. Not every dad's like this. What
about you? Do your kids know what you know? Do
they know what you do in the sense of like
you're one of the best race car drivers out there?

Speaker 12 (59:02):
That's a good question. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (59:05):
I don't know that. I think I think Owen probably is.
He's he's my oldest. I think he gets an idea,
which I got to remind him sometimes because he's ra
He races himself and I'm like, dude, you got to
listen to me.

Speaker 12 (59:20):
Don't get real.

Speaker 5 (59:21):
Knows what he's talking about now.

Speaker 7 (59:25):
So I think he's starting to realize, but I'm not sure,
you know, and I don't. I don't want I mean,
I guess you know, his dad.

Speaker 12 (59:32):
You you want to be that superhero.

Speaker 7 (59:34):
But I also don't want them to think that I'm
above anybody, because I am just a normal person and
I'm and I'm I'm their dad and and they get
to see a side of me that nobody else gets
to see. So uh, yeah, that probably makes me seem
more down to earth to them. But yeah, it's just
cool having your family at the racetrack and getting to

(59:55):
celebrate moments like that.

Speaker 12 (59:56):
It's uh, it's pretty pretty amazing.

Speaker 6 (59:58):
I'm sure you you know lot of celebrities, a lot
of you've met a lot of people in your career
when you win, like last night, Who's what's the coolest
text you get from?

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Who?

Speaker 6 (01:00:09):
And and do you does your phone blow up too
after a win?

Speaker 12 (01:00:14):
Yeah, yeah, it definitely does.

Speaker 7 (01:00:15):
I think I had probably some of the mid four
hundreds last night. So yeah, I've been able to get
through most.

Speaker 12 (01:00:23):
Of them, which is which is good.

Speaker 7 (01:00:25):
It takes time, but yeah, I don't know, I think
for me, yeah, there's definitely you know, some celebrities that'll
text you, But for me. It's it's the people that have,
you know, meant the most to me throughout my life.
I would say, going back to like my childhood, having
a lot of my childhood friends that I maybe don't
get to stay in touch with much anymore because I'm
you know, outraced on the East Coast a lot. You

(01:00:47):
have my friends and supporters that have been there from
the beginning. I think those are the ones that mean
the most to me.

Speaker 6 (01:00:52):
So when you text back, say to the four hundred replies,
is it kind of the same thing, like thanks dude,
thank you, thanks, appreciate it.

Speaker 12 (01:01:00):
It's a lot of that.

Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
Yeah, for sure, just because man, it would if you
got real personal with it, it would I don't know
how long it would take, but it would take a
very long time. And I don't like seeing the the
unread you know, the red number text message on there.

Speaker 12 (01:01:16):
I like my phone pretty clean.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
So so you don't have anything to get through it
with me, So you you make sure they're all red.

Speaker 7 (01:01:23):
Yeah, well, I mean I respond to them too, so
but yeah, I just don't like the little red bubble
on there saying my email. I make sure I've at
least open it to where I don't have any unread
emails because I just don't like the cluttered nest.

Speaker 6 (01:01:38):
I'm looking at mine. I have twenty three and sixty
five unread emails.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Oh my gosh. We're very different, man, very different.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
Yeah, dang, is.

Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
That is that kind of the way you are with
your with your race car? Like does everything have to
be exactly the same way every time you get in there?

Speaker 7 (01:01:58):
I think with sure, Like with how I my morning
routine would go, or the way I buckle myself into
the race car, like all of that is, yes, very
much the same every time, you know, even putting the
what order you put your shoes on, your gloves on?

Speaker 12 (01:02:16):
So a little bit OCD.

Speaker 7 (01:02:17):
I don't know if all race car drivers are like
that or not, but I just yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:02:22):
I've just always been like that, just kind of muscle memory.

Speaker 6 (01:02:25):
Are you sock sock, shoe shoe or are you sock shoe,
socks shoe?

Speaker 12 (01:02:30):
I'm socks and shoes.

Speaker 6 (01:02:32):
Okay, all right, just making sure I didn't know you
were a psychotic or not.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
I just wanted to make sure.

Speaker 12 (01:02:36):
You're some Yeah, I would say that sounds very psychoic.

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
Yeah, that's what I thought. That's what I thought.

Speaker 6 (01:02:42):
What one more question I was going to ask you
about just kind of you know, pre pre erace odds
and stuff. Before you race, do you look at the
odds to see if you're a favorite to win or
do you kind of know you already know where you're at.

Speaker 7 (01:02:54):
I don't look, but a lot of times, you know,
because I'm in it right, Like I know what tracks
are good, I know how practice kind of went, and
and a lot of times we're the favorite, you know,
the five, like Kyle Larson and the five team, because
you know, we we run up.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
Front a lot. But there's a lot of tracks.

Speaker 12 (01:03:12):
I'm like, man, I don't know why they have me
the favorite.

Speaker 7 (01:03:14):
I know I'm gonna suck. But uh yeah, we're not
allowed to talk about it.

Speaker 12 (01:03:19):
We can't. We can't offer any insight.

Speaker 6 (01:03:22):
Yeah, do you uh, what's what's another sport?

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
What do like? What sport are you into?

Speaker 6 (01:03:25):
You?

Speaker 5 (01:03:25):
Do you like football?

Speaker 7 (01:03:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:03:27):
I like football? I mean I like all sports.

Speaker 7 (01:03:29):
I would say I'm not I don't have the time
to get fully invested in it, you know, and and
know the players and who's on the injured list and
all that, or who just got traded but I enjoy
watching all sports. I'm you know, I'm a competitor, so
I like to see, you know, athletes compete at a
high level and just get a glimpse into what their

(01:03:50):
mindsets might be.

Speaker 12 (01:03:51):
And but yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:03:53):
Right now it's football season, so I'm enjoying watching some
some football.

Speaker 6 (01:03:57):
I mean, I love watching you guys on the weekends.
But I always think, you know, like, man like Kyle
can't watch football today, like he's got a race today.
You know, do you feel like your weekends are just
shot because of what you do?

Speaker 7 (01:04:08):
Yeah, I mean our life routine is much different than
a normal person like our I feel like our weekends,
you know, our Tuesday Wednesday, Thursday, Tuesday Wednesday really and
that's everybody's working. So it's like you don't really get
a chance to hang out with people or go on
vacations or whatever.

Speaker 12 (01:04:26):
So it's a bit odd.

Speaker 7 (01:04:27):
But yeah, football, I mean we miss all the games,
but yeah, I'll watch Usually our race gets done in
time to like when Sunday night football's turned on, which
is cool, we can sit on the plane and.

Speaker 12 (01:04:40):
Watch some football.

Speaker 6 (01:04:41):
So what now, man, how long do you celebrate this
win and enjoy this win and then move on to
the next.

Speaker 7 (01:04:48):
I would say, I mean the banquet we have here
in Arizona tomorrow, So I think that makes the celebration
much shorter before, you know, we used to have the
banquet at three or four weeks, probably after the final race.
So it's I would think that the celebration seems longer.
But I think it'll be good. I I I think
it's good that we're having it right after. It's fresh,

(01:05:09):
you're excited still and all that. So yeah, I look
forward to celebrating with the team again tomorrow night and
celebrating this the year that all of us teams had,
and then yeah, getting.

Speaker 12 (01:05:21):
Focused for for next year.

Speaker 7 (01:05:23):
I'll get to I do a lot of dirt track racing,
so I'll do some some dirt track stuff this offseason,
and then yeah, just get ready for for Daytona in February.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Lastly, where does the where does the trophy go?

Speaker 6 (01:05:34):
Because when I won my first CMA award, I was like,
I'm this is going my living room.

Speaker 5 (01:05:38):
My wife's like, no, it's not it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:41):
I have a nice trophy case in my house, like
a game room, so glass, you know, lit up trophy case.
It's really nice and that's where I have all my
big wins. But yeah, I'm gonna have to kind of
re lay out the shelving and I and I think,
you know, probably gonna have to pull a trophy out

(01:06:02):
of there because they're all big ones and uh yeah,
I don't think all of the space for everything.

Speaker 6 (01:06:07):
That's a good problem to have, dude. Congratulations, man, it's
really awesome. It was a great race, it was a
good season. And just congrats do and thank you so
much for making time to hang out with us with
us today.

Speaker 12 (01:06:19):
Yeah, thank you, thanks so much, Bud.

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
All Right, that's gonna wrap us up. I hope everybody
has a great weekend. You too, man. I was just
looking at games like, we're screwed our money league this week,
no matter what, because our teams are playing each other
and we gotta buy. We're gonna be down in the
whole bout a thousand bucks again we always had that
time we were up a thousand in ear league. Is
that bad? It could? Yeah, it could. Yeah. I thought

(01:06:44):
it was gonna be a good week because the Cowboys
aren'tna buy too many teams on buying. Yeah, yeah, it
sucks for us. Okay, big college game of the week.
I think the BYU Texas Tech game is super interesting
because I think it's kind of, as Andy Staple said,
a playoff game, but they may meet each other again.

(01:07:05):
I think that's a fun one. I think LSU at
Alabama's fun. Orgon eye organ and I it's a pretty
good weekend for college football. That's all. You're just gonna
be sitting around watching football. Probably did you actually have
a good reason. Yeah, but I really don't get any
pressure to not sit around watch football anyway. We don't
have a baby yet, and I think with the baby,
I'm gonna be sitting around even more watching football. Yeah,

(01:07:26):
because you're gonna be. My wife's not like nagging me
to go do crap. I think for the first few
years she wanted to do stuff, and now she's like,
I ask, screwt, where Mary do it? Ever? You want?

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
I know who I'm married.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Yeah, it's like you do your thing. Yeah, you guys
have a good Uh Well, I mean this is Thursday
when it comes out. But please send me feedback and dms,
or if you're listening on Spotify where they have what,
you can ride a comment underneath. Load it up, give
us your feedback we'll read them back on probably Monday show.
Everybody good on that? Yeah, all right, we'll see you
guys next week, Mike, all right, buy everybody? Theme song

(01:08:01):
written by Bobby Bones That's Me and performed by Brandon Ray.
Follow Brandon on socials at Brandon Ray Music.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
You can follow the show on Instagram at Bobby Bones Sports.
Thanks to our crew co host at producer Reddy, segment
producer at Kickoff Kevin, and executive producer at Mike Gestrove.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
But most importantly, thank you for listening.

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
I'm Bobby Bones.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
We'll talk to you next time here on twenty five
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