October 2, 2025 • 43 mins
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No, OK. No, we we can't talk about Alien
Earth because this is the college football podcast.
OK, that's how that works. We'll talk about it later.
I'm sure because all of my best friends want to tell them, talk
to me about their Jump Square horror stories and or what alien
Earth is actually doing versus what it's not doing and how it
is not actually alien. But it is kind of cool.
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But but alien Earth? Can I tell you my opinion on
Alien Earth? No, you have to tell me your
opinion about Dabo Sweeney beingone in three.
Oh, sorry, fine. OK.
Yeah, we can do the alien Earth one another time, but.
We're always certain that. People listening to this they,
they, they. Don't care.
Unless, unless Xenomorph is going to show up in the transfer
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portal, in which case good luck.I mean all there.
There's a there's a great question, RJ has a a football
team ever done like a like hokeypromotional thing involving like
the Xenomorph from the Alien franchise?
Likely, not likely. Not that's fair, but why are
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they when a one and three? Well, because they they lost
three of the first four games they played.
Well yeah, but like the questionis why did they suck and then
not suck? I think, you know, the better
question is why did you pick them to play in the national
championship game next to Penn State, who also got beat?
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But they Penn State is is also three and one no no.
No, no, no. But they did what I said.
They were going to do what they've always done, frankly,
which is lose to a team in the top 10 because they can't beat
team in the top 10. They're 4 and 21 against teams
in the top ten with James Franklin as their head coach.
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I'm really just as a little bit of an aside, I'm really
embarrassed of like my first episode with you because, you
know, you were like pick teams and I felt like a lot of
pressure, you know, and I was like, Oh no, if I'm like wrong,
these people won't think I'm cool.
And then and then like I picked Clemson and Clemson is just not
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even on the board in any way like.
They were like noted OU footballgreat.
And ESPN analyst Dusty Dvorchek went out on a limb in Week 1.
Like that's the number one team in the country to me.
He said that. I don't say it's a limb.
It's not going out on a limb. It's what he actually believed.
He's just wrong. So you're really good company.
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That's, that's good. I I'm sure it was more
embarrassing for him than it is for me because I'm, you know,
me. Not as embarrassing actually.
Paul Finebaum saying that Texas is going to be great and arch
man is the best quarterback we've seen since Tim Tebow, only
to last week say I'm off of it. I'm totally off of it.
Please leave me alone. And then this week say, I think
I'm I think I'm going to get up from ESPN and run from U.S.
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Senate in the state of Alabama. I I think it's so, so funny
though that I like somehow just knew that I was going to find
Arch Manning annoying and I havecontinuously found him annoying
like this entire he. Reminds me of AI mean it it
makes sense that you would find him annoying and I don't mean
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that like because he's a Manninglike people would have to know
Kate to. Know.
Why I I knew this was going to find this going to be annoying
to her in particular, But without getting deeper into
that, it's Hey, you, you ever look at the kid that went to
private school and you know, youjust beat his ass?
That's how Kate tends to look atArch Manning.
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I could make that a bigger. I can make that.
Land a little bit. OK, but I'm sorry, but what?
But but what? I cannot beat Arch Manning at
anything, just to be fair. OK, barrel racing, I is he a
horseback rider, 'cause I'm surethat he could afford a better
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horse than I could ever afford in my life.
See, we're already getting there.
Already getting there? Did you win that buckle?
Did have I won a buckle for No, no, no.
No, no, I feel like that's a question that not Kate would ask
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Arch Manning. Did you win that buckle?
Well, like, I mean, Arch Manningis going to prove himself or
not, like I sure. And he's so young, like.
Just like all the rich kids, allthe rich kids with horses, all
the rich kids that come from theranches with lots of horses
where they get to trade them andor watch sources get sold for
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six figures. Yeah, yeah, He's definitely
going to be able to write his own ticket, as they say.
I. Don't.
Kate also loves horses and I do not.
So there, there's that. OK, that's underneath all of
this. I can't.
Why did? Why did you have to out me as
like a horse, horse girl or whatever?
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I think that. Because he's a Texas Longhorn.
That's why he picked Texas. He he grew up in New Orleans and
he picked, he picked Texas. Oh, I didn't know he grew up in
New Orleans you went to. Theodore Newman, which is a
highfalutin private school of the 1st Order in New Orleans.
Oh OK that makes more sense. I was about to say I thought he
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was from somewhere up north. No, no, no.
His granddaddy played for the New Orleans Saints, and while
the New Orleans Saints were cheeks, he was not.
But he was cool. But his dad didn't.
No, but they no. All of the Mannings grew up in
New Orleans. All of them.
Oh, Oh yeah. Well.
It's just his Uncle Eli went to Ole Miss, his Daddy Cooper went
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to Ole Miss, and his Uncle Peyton went to Tennessee.
That none of them went to LSU isby far and away one of the
wildest not coincidences ever happened in college football.
That's strange it Hey, why? Why is it not a coincidence?
I feel like we're getting a little bit off topic, but.
I mean, LSU took a loss to Ole Miss, so it's not necessarily
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that that. OK.
Unless you were the number 14 inthis in the country and then Ole
Miss beat them to be the number 14 in the country.
Ole Miss, which again had Eli Manning and had Archie Manning
and had Cooper Manning, but not Arch Manning or Peyton Manning
for that matter. But yeah, they all grew up in
New Orleans and of that of that ilk, the child picked Texas.
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Hence, I am throwing him in witha horse crowd like you because
you are a horse person. I am a horse person.
Oh, as an aside, I had a horse person absolutely, positively
stand me up on a bike ride. Interesting.
Was it because of a horse? No, I, I, I think she don't like
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me. I think that's it.
I think that's it. Well, if you profess how
strongly you hate horses to a. Horse person, I never got that
far. Oh, maybe she could sense it.
That's kind of, you know, you kind of.
No, I'm serious. Like you kind of like sense
sometimes like. If people would be into your.
Hobbies or not like. Yo what?
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No, that's not what happened. But she didn't mention that she
did equestrian stuff and I I swear I kept a straight face.
Oh wow, did you think, oh, this is an expensive, expensive
person right here in front of. You actually for those.
Of you who? They're all, they're all
expensive people in front of you.
I just want to say to those of you who don't know, owning a
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horse is they're. Like what does this have to do
with Clemson football? Yeah, it's almost like you pick
up like Warhammer is a hobby. That's like what, you know,
owning a horse. Oh, sorry, excuse me, I'm not
supposed to talk about Warhammeron the very serious football.
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No, no, no, no, no, no. If, if, if, if your partner was
not a Warhammer hobbyist, how much?
What hammer would you talk about?
I I like Warhammer, I do. I actually like a lot of the
books and I have several of the games, including Space Marine 2.
OK, you realize that you, you'vewalked into a there, there are
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two kinds of people that watch this show.
Two kinds listen to the show. They know exactly they they,
they know absolutely, positivelynothing about what you're
talking about. And they're all in.
They have leaned forward. They have gone.
I'm sorry, did she say Warhammer?
And then there are people like, what are they talking about?
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So I land there, but the horse part came from the arch manning
part. Which is one of your favorite
topics of this 2025 season? Quite honest, I.
Guys, if somehow I can meet ArchManning, I would really
appreciate it because I would just like to shake his hand and.
What? And and say, I don't know, I
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liked you in that one commercialthat you were on that I saw
who's he? Who's he advertising for?
It's. Like there's, there's like
there's like. Yeah, yeah, I know.
I can't remember. I watched this commercial and
it's like hey it's arch meaning.I I look, look, I have never
been blowing up so much about what Arch Man is or isn't doing
or what Oklahoma State is or isn't doing as I have been in
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the last three weeks. I'm so sorry that you and I, RJ,
was in a chat between myself andour friend and we were just
talking about Oklahoma State like the whole time.
Well, I'm a, I'm an alumnus actually of Oklahoma State, so.
You had, yes, you, you and Ron both have.
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That's the why you should be talking about Oklahoma State
football. I myself just showed up there
to, to, to, to to talk noise because it's a football program
that still hasn't beaten an FBS program since September 14 last
year and is not likely to beat one this year.
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It is in shambles. They had to indefinitely suspend
their director player personnel because of how he was talking to
a safety on the sideline that isno longer with the team.
They had to fire their defensivecoordinator yesterday.
They are in Campbells. And, and the worst part about
living here is the people that don't want to talk about
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Oklahoma do want to talk about Oklahoma State.
Yeah. But not necessarily with me,
because they know that I'm an Oklahoma fan and I am not in any
way helping them commiserate with the $15 million that they
found to pay Mike Gundy to go away.
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But remember, it wasn't out of that whatever budget that they
keep talking about. No, no, no.
It was out of the general operating budget.
I thought that they said that itwasn't like in the letter.
No, no, no, no, Chad Weiberg said.
I did not ask our donors to contribute.
Oh, that's what it was. I'm sorry.
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You're right. You're right.
Because usually that's what happens.
The donor shows up and says, I'll give you the money if you
let me pick the next guy or participate in the search for
the next guy. And they say deal.
This time he had enough money intheir general, in their checking
account to go, Nah, screw this, we can't, No, no, this is done.
This is over. And by the way, Chad Weiberg got
to do this without a contract, like he's working without a
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contract. He's going to, he's confident,
he's going to get 1. And I am his confidence.
He is after what he was able to pull off.
But the idea that people care somuch about Oklahoma State
football, mostly because it's been good for the last 20 years
and it's got about 100 years before that of just being crap.
Save like 2 years, like 8889. Yeah, OK, cool.
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Good years. You all had the Heisman Trophy
winner in Thurman Thomas. But don't you think part of that
is like, since OU and OSU have been good for, you know, you
know, they've both been good fora relatively long time?
You know, like, I mean, I think it's 'cause I'm here though,
like inundated with the rivalry thing, you know, like all the
house divided stuff. Like, do you think that it kind
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of creates like more drama and like popularity for the teams?
I don't know, like have you? Looked at the records between
Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. Well, not recently.
Well, you should OK, you you should it it's worth look and
you tell me how relevant Bedlam is.
Look, they've won more of the last couple of years than they
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have in recent in you know, the many years past.
But if you look at the stats it's very one sided and the
house divided stuff only makes sense if your spouse went to the
other university. Like that's the only way it
makes sense. People also conveniently forget
that the University of Tulsa hasfour times as many Pro Football
Hall of Farmers as Oklahoma State does.
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It's kind of wild actually. Matter of fact, I want to say TU
has four times as many as Clemson too.
Certainly he's got the highest paid offensive guard of all
time. Plays for Dallas Cowboys name is
Tyler Smith. They have the Bed and Eric award
winner, which is the best defensive player in the entire
country in 2020, and Xavin Collins, who is also an all
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American. I mean, I can continue to list
all the ways in which TU has pound for pound, punch TU in the
face. Excuse me, punch OSU in the face
for like 20 years, but nobody cares because it's the smallest
university in the country playing FPS football and it cost
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an arm and a leg to go to schoolthere.
So most people don't send their kids to go to school there.
It's also funny that of our coregroup of friends, I believe I'm
the only person with a diploma from the University of Oklahoma
at all. And all of us, save 2, have
stepped foot on that campus for one reason or another to take
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classes. Yeah, I think you're right.
AG schools coming up for the winon that one.
That's that's all I got on that I think.
Go ahead. Oh, I was just going to.
Your face. Otherwise I would.
I would. I would.
Sorry, I was. I was just kind of thinking
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about the the thing I was jokingabout earlier, about how like 4
out of the top five schools start with an O.
Ohio State, Oregon. Finish it.
Old Miss, sorry old Miss is above Oklahoma.
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Correct 4/4 out of five so. Yeah.
The only one you're missing by right now is like Miami, and
they're going to play. Florida State, Yeah.
Oh yeah, it's Miami. Who do you got in that game?
I think that they'll beat Florida State, right?
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Who is they? Did I lose track of who who you
said was playing who? I think so.
I did OK. I'm sorry, could you please
repeat it? See, this is this is the part
where I have to remind listenersthat those of you that somehow
believe that Kate is here for the for the football knowledge
or missing the point, she's herefor the RJ knowledge that that's
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the point. So if you want.
To be yeah, we were supposed to be doing it more in the form of
questions. That's.
No, no, no, no. It's we're we're doing it and
they're listening to it or they're watching it and they're
going to they're going to say and think what they think.
Miami Hurricanes so short canes,right, They're undefeated,
they're top 25 program. They're top 10 program.
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They're top five program, but they had beaten Notre Dame right
in Miami and it turns out Notre Dame is garbage to use that
French term because they're I mean they're.
Do you think TU is going to beatthem again or have they already
played? They don't play TU this year and
I swear to, I swear Kate, damn it.
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Sorry. No, you're not.
Because now you're actually not.I know you're not.
I know like TU and Oklahoma State, ain't nobody, nobody
cares. I so cares.
So I was at TU. The last time at TU played Notre
Dame, Little beat Notre Dame. It was 10 years ago.
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The coach, I mean a head coach. You want to head coach with
quarterback? I was at TU, this this this week
and I went by the football team.You went by the football team.
I did. I drove by them because you
know, they're coming out of practice.
They they run morning drills. Arge, I don't know what to tell
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you. Anyway, so like the I, I had to
like almost physically restrain myself from being like good job
beating OSU so I didn't say anything and just walk by them
like a weirdo. Oh, my friends are fans, so all
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right. If nothing else, dear viewer
dear. Listener.
If you've ever wondered about how biased or unbiased I am, I I
am. I am physically hurting from the
idea of needing to tell the University of Tulsa football
players. Good job for doing their job for
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playing the game and winning thegame.
You know, some people like hearing good job when they're
good at their jobs, you know? And, and and you somehow believe
that someone else, namely their coach, did not tell them good
job. I didn't say it to them.
But you what? I kept.
It inside, I don't have that impulse.
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I don't have that impulse. I don't have that impulse when I
go by Bud Crawford for beating Canelo, which might be the most
significant bout of my entire life in a sport that I love.
I don't need to tell show, show.Hey, Otani, you know what?
Good job for being the first dude ever to hit sixty home runs
and sixty stolen bases and still60.
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And also this is a double thing.Strikeouts and 50 stolen base.
My God, that dude. Fifty home runs.
He's ridiculous. He is.
People that are doing good, theythey know it.
Other people are hearing it. Like I just can't even, I just
don't feel like people really appreciate like what an amazing
athlete Otani is. I mean, I know that a lot of
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people do cause a lot of people love him, right?
But like he is insane. Like is he he?
Is he an anime character in somehow human form like?
Is that unless we're talking about Golden Boy, I don't want
to hear it. Oh, that anime.
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She said. Oh, that anime.
Yeah, did. You hear the judgment in her
voice. It wasn't judgment, I was like,
why are you talking about that anime?
It's from late 1987. It's perfect.
It's it's a shame it only got two seasons.
It should have a Dragon Ball Z run.
My favorite part of that anime, again, we're not talking about
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football, but my favorite part of that anime is where he's
observing his boss, who is speaking in English on the phone
in the office that they're at. And he's like, oh wow, she's so
amazing. Like she's completely fluent in
English and the woman is just speaking like.
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Extremely broken, terrible English like the Japanese voice
actor seem to be playing it up for like oh this guy's an idiot
who doesn't know about anything but I mean.
That, that is that, that for me is a lot of Japanese, excuse me,
a lot of anime. Forget Japanese, it's a lot of
anime. It's just that we're we're,
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we're leaning into the bit in a different way.
So who do you think is going to win the national championship?
Are we far enough along that I can ask you that?
Well, I'm already getting yelledat for saying that Ohio State
might have the best defense of the 21st century, if not all
time. But they're Ohio State fans are
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like, dog, for real. And I'm like, yeah, for real,
for real. They are averaging.
They're giving up five and a half points per game.
How is that compared to other teams?
Well, 2011 Alabama has the best defense that we've seen
basically in the national championship era in the 21st
century, and they gave up 8.2 points per game.
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Now, there are two ways to look at this.
You could say Ohio State ain't played nobody, in which case,
OK, sure, Washington doesn't do it for you.
But Texas does, and they held them to seven points.
They're also not allowing peopleto score touchdowns in the red
zone, which is really big. They still haven't given up one
of those, and they're able to play incredible pass defense
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against teams that want to throwthe football.
So for now, I believe that the Buckeyes are the clear number
one team in the country by some margin, and it doesn't feel like
anybody's going to challenge them until they got to play Penn
State later this year. But they have treated Penn State
a lot like Oklahoma has treated Oklahoma State.
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They just beat their ass and Penn State, no matter what time
it is, find a way to lose a football game to a team that is
ranked inside the top 10 becausethat's just who they are.
Now, Ohio State hasn't beaten Michigan since 2019, and that's
going to be the one because evenlast year they were supposed to
stop a mud hole in Michigan and walk it dry.
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They weren't able to do that. They still won the national
championship, right? But they weren't able to do it.
So today, as it was more or lessat the start of the season, Ohio
State is my pick to win the national championship.
Now who's going to play them in the national championship is an
even more interesting question. So who do you think is going to
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play them? Well, it ain't going to be
Clemson. I will, obviously.
As I said, they're just not even.
I feel like I cursed them or something but.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You should know that Clemson has
been new money for like 15 years.
So Clemson won one national championship from the time it
started playing college footballuntil 2015, and it was in 1981.
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And it's kind of like we voted on who the national championship
national champion is, which is one of the stupidest things that
we've ever done. This sport is vote on who wins
what. I hate it.
But now we have a tournament to decide this.
And Clemson has won that tournament twice, and they have
been very good under Dabo Sweeney, who does it his way.
If there's an East Coast versionof Mike Gundy, it's that guy who
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will remind you every chance he gets, how many games he's won,
how many championships he's won,how good they have been, All
because he's been the head coachlast year in an epic radio call
back when Dabo Sweeney still took calls from the public at
his coaches show, which frankly are always one of the coolest
things in the world. And I hate that they went away
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because you got somebody out there who's loaded up for bear
coming after this coach they letthrough.
So last year it was Tyler from Spartanburg who asked Dabo
Sweeney why it is that he gets paid 11 plus $1,000,000 for what
was not a great product on the football field and doesn't
amount to winning championships.Now they came back and they won
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a championship but Dabo went in for 5 minutes on Tyler from
Spartanburg and ends with you can come down and apply for the
job. And now I got to believe that
Tyler from Spartanburg is going to see, I told y'all, this guy,
in large part because Dabo wantsto do it his way and his way has
been working and is a really difficult man to tell.
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The bootstrap story doesn't workbecause it worked for him.
And it worked for him in a dramatic way.
This man who shared a dorm bed, not a dorm room, a dorm bed with
his Mama at the University of Alabama while playing football
and then was going to go sell used cars after college when the
head coach, Gene Stalin said, no, you should come be a grad
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assistant for me. And that's how he got started
coaching football. Then he became the wide
receivers coach at Clemson. They fired the head coach, in
which case he does what every other coach would do when he
comes home and tells his wife, we got fired today.
Because usually what happens is they they clean house, right?
Head coach gets fired, everybodyelse gets fired.
But they made him the interim, which is essentially the dead
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man walking. You have to carry this to the
end. But he turned that team into a
winner and in such a way that they said we're going to give
you the job. So not only did he become a head
coach, he became a head coach without the step of needing to
be a coordinator first, which isstill really, really difficult
to do. And then he went on a tear of
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winning heretofore unforeseen bya man with his credentials.
So you can't tell that man nothing.
He believed that because he did it, you can do it.
And I keep telling people that white privilege is real and that
just because you did it your waydoesn't mean everybody else can
do it your way. And this is a man, like many
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folks that believe, no, no, no, no, no, no, I did it and I'm a
regular, regular person. No, you're not a regular person.
And I need you to stop saying that.
Now, we have this conversation writ large about a lot of
different topics. But with Clemson, it becomes
personal in a hurry that it's Clemson.
And I think I have this right isa town of something like 17,000
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people. I think they've got a larger
student body than they've got a population in that city.
So much so the people are shocked to find out that
Clemson, SC is in fact, where Clemson is.
What do you tell them? What do you tell people about
going to Death Valley, which is real, right?
That's what they called the stadium and it earned its
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nickname. You go into this whole, this
hole in the ground that's humid and hot and abrasive to all that
are not raised in it or work in it, and the humidity is heavy on
your head and you can't understand what is this moodoo,
this mojo that they got going over here.
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And all they can tell you is we're just a little old Clemson.
You ain't got to worry about that.
Then they go to whooping your whole ass.
So this one in three Clemson could very well end up being a
nine in three Clemson and they could very well end up playing
the ACC Championship. But for that happen, we need
some, we need some carnage. Georgia Tech's undefeated
Florida State took a loss to Virginia.
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Virginia might be legit, We're not sure.
Florida State might be legit, we're not sure.
Because Alabama went into Georgia and beat Georgia, which
makes them the first team to beat Georgia at Georgia in damn
near 5 years. It's really remarkable.
They're also the only people who've been able to beat Georgia
consistently. Like, Kirby Smart is something
like one in 10 against Alabama in particular, but he's got a
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gargantuanly awesome record against everybody else.
That same Alabama team lost Florida State.
OK Florida State beat that Alabama team at home.
Florida State gets Miami at home.
So is the Mojo working when they're playing at Dope
Campbell? We'll find out this Saturday.
Then Georgia Tech, who beat Colorado and beat Clemson,
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needed overtime to beat windlessWake Forest, who's sorry and
sucks, But it's also in the ACCAprogram that is trying to figure
out what it's going to be in thenew college football, all while
Virginia Tech has fired its headcoach in Brent Pride.
UNC in North Carolina suck, but they got Bill Belichick.
And if Bell Belichick can go beat Dabo Sweeney and Clemson,
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it's going to get way worse for Clemson.
It'll be about the same for BillBelichick in North Carolina,
who's got, you know, his home girl.
She calling the shots. She walking up there talking
about what's she going to do andwhat they're not going to do,
why they being sorry and all toward the middle of this
particular conference. You've got teams like SMU got
teams like Cal. You got other teams that can pop
up and do something. We're not sure what the ACC is
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or isn't. We just know that right now
Clemson is off to its worst start that we've ever seen for
Dabo Sweeney. And it's really easy to say that
they're getting the water when they've been a back half team
for like the last five years. Like they'll they'll find a
reason or find a way to go win, we think because they're just
too talented. Like, there are four players on
their team that should get selected in the first two rounds
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of the NFL draft like that. They're just, they're that
talented. They just ain't been able to
play fundamentally sound football for four quarters,
which is another reason to bet on them.
That aside, Miami's got some generational talents of
themselves of their own, and they got a defensive line that
might be as good as the NFC North.
Ruben Bayne is a monster. Don't want that dude coming off
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the age after me because he he does feel like, you know, a
Batman villain. Carson Black's fine, they've got
a couple of dudes at wide receiver that can play, but
we'll find out that that's the big game on the schedule this
week. I'm not sure that Florida State
has enough to contend with that defensive line.
Tommy Castellano likes to be outthere making magic happen with
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his feet, but the problem with having a quarterback that makes
magic with his feet is much morelikely to get hurt.
See John Mateer, if Reuben Bain and them get a hold, get a hold
of him. It's not going to be pretty and
I'm not sure that they got anybody behind him that he
trusts. So we'll find out today.
I'm picking Miami, but that doesn't make me special, right?
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That just means I'm picking the higher ranked team in the
undefeated team. Outside of that, we'll see.
We'll see. See all, all of what you just,
you know, said and everything islike one of the reasons I really
love like coming on here and talking to you about football
stuff, 'cause, you know, like I can watch some of the games and
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you know, like read who's won and that sort of thing.
But I don't have like a lot of context, you know, for, you
know, what is happening like this season as opposed to
previous seasons, you know what I mean?
So it's like, you know, it's like Clemson losing.
I'm like, I thought they like, my vague impression of them was
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that they were like pretty good,you know, And now you're
explaining to me like why they're, you know, it's just
nice. Anyway, that's fun.
I I, I appreciate having utilityin my job, Kate.
I think that's the reason why people watch this show is
providing context. OK, so we have covered Miami, FL
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State. We talked a little bit about
Ohio State. Who's going to beat the crap out
of Minnesota? Oklahoma's got Kent State, but
we're not really going to talk about that.
The question I think is most interesting to go out on is why
do all of the preseason Heisman finalists suck?
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Arch Manning is not great, Garrett Nussmeyer is not great,
DJ Lagway sucks, Cage Klubnik sucks, Drew Aller is garbage.
Why do you think all of these these grown ass men have not
been as good as Trinidad Chambliss at Ole Miss, John
Metier at Oklahoma, Fernando Mendoza and Indiana?
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Are you asking me that specifically?
I mean, I'm asking you to take aguess.
Just just a guess. Well, all of the guys that are
not living up to expectations currently probably, I don't
know, had a lot more expectations.
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And I will say that I've seen them advertised a lot more.
So maybe they're doing other things besides focusing on
football. It's it's That is a common
refrain among many fans and coaches.
My corollary here is DJ Uyong Lily, who is supposed to be a
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Heisman favorite at Florida State turned out to flame out.
They famously went 2 and 10 lastyear.
He went undrafted and got cut bythe Los Angeles Chargers.
This is a guy that came out as Ibelieve the number two overall
quarterback in the 2020 class. The guy he was behind Bryce
Young went to Alabama. He won a Heisman Trophy and had
a better job in the ain't done abetter job in the NFL, but he
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was a Heisman Trophy winner. DJ Uyongole was not in as far as
why these particular group of high, highly valued, highly
talented quarterbacks he's been sorry, I genuinely think that
they got to play more football like Garrett Nutsmeyer is is
kind of perplexing because he played all last year and he
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threw for 4000 yards and he's got better tools around him this
year than he did last year. Kate Klubnick, same difference.
But I wasn't sold on him coming out of Austin Westlake even as
he won a state championship. I just didn't see it like I I
didn't like the the way he threwa football.
I didn't like his mechanics. I did like his moxie.
Yeah, they went to go get him because Ty Simpson ended up at
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Alabama. Another guy that's going to
enter the Heisman race. But Ty Simpson was going to go
to Clemson is not to Alabama. So they go get K Club.
Nick plays fine last year. His stats are tantamount to what
Baker Mayfield was doing in his Heisman Trophy.
We're not this year. DJ Lagway was national Gatorade
player of the year I believe in 2023 coming out of Willis, TX.
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Got all the tools. He just has been garbage.
He went from being undefeated asa starting quarterback to he
threw 5 interceptions against LSU in a game that they probably
could have won if he threw just three interceptions.
And three interceptions is a lotin any football game. 5 can't
have that. Probably going to get his head
coach fired. Drew Aller plays an offense
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that's not geared for him, but for the second game against the
top five or top 10 opponent, he threw the interception to seal
the victory for the other team when he had an opportunity to go
win the game. It is a guy that has not
measured up to the moment and that's what you need when you
need to have a quarterback at Penn State.
You have to measure up to the moment.
You can't be the guy throw an interception, you need to be the
guy making a play. Arch needs to play more
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football. He has started all of 1234, I
believe that dude started five games in his entire life.
And quarterback is a position where the more starts you have,
the better you're going to perform.
It's just that simple. You need reps, you need time,
you need seat time is what we used to call it, right?
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For me, it's as I'm going on my cycling journey, it's time on
the bike. You just you need to be exposed
to things over and over again and new situations.
And here it is. Kate and I are both decent chess
players. I actually for the listener, I
still have on my phone a game that Micah Parsons tilted to me
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on the chess app. OK, for those of y'all that
Kate, do you know who Micah Parsons is?
Yes. OK, so I'm good.
Kate's good. But the reason that I'm good and
the reason I Kate is good is kind of like I can solve a
Rubik's Cube, any Rubik's Cube. You can scramble as much as you
want. I've seen enough of the patterns
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to where I can tell you what situation needs right then right
there. She can chunk it.
And that's what quarterbacks aredoing when they see a play call
you. So, oh, I've seen this before.
I know how to beat this. One of the reasons that Patrick
Mahomes is so good as a quarterback is he's got a
photographic memory. If he sees it once he's got it,
that's his superpower. If you have that kind of recall
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and you know what they're going to do, it's no longer needing to
play football. It's just needing to go back
through your memory bank and go,oh, I know what to do in this
situation because I've seen it once.
In the case of Patrick Mahomes, most of us, we got to see it
1520 eleven times for we get it drilled into our brain.
This is what you got to do when you see this happen.
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There is no other way or this isthe only way that works.
Arch Manning doesn't have that. He has the skill set to take
advantage of it when he sees it,and that is quite literally 90%
of the battle. And I think that's the case with
all of these guys. They need to see it and they
need to experience it more often.
Quarterback's still a position that we coddle.
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Quarterback's not a position where we go all out.
We're not allowed to hit the quarterback.
So the first time that dude getshit and the only time that dude
gets hit is during the season. How do you know with the speed
of the game if you never see it in practice?
If guys are told to pull up right before they're going to
waylay you, That's the only way we know how to teach it too,
because you can't have the quarterback getting hurt.
I genuinely think it's that simple.
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They need more time playing quarterback.
So So what you're saying is pretty much the only real
experience game experience they get, is it their first like
couple of games? I Well, OK for another reason.
Another example here is Dylan Gabriel is going to start for
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the Cleveland Browns this weekend.
He has more starts than any other quarterback in college
football history. Wild guess.
How many starts do you think he has made?
Just a wild guess. Yes, he has played six years of
college football. How many starts did he make
during that time? 10630 That is the most start by
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by any person in college football history.
And to measure up to be good in the NFL, the number needs to be
closer to 40, which means that you have to play an average of
10 games a year for four years. Most quarterbacks are not going
to get that opportunity because their first year they're going
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to red shirt, they're going to sit behind someone else that has
earned their job. They're going to learn from them
and then they might play the next two years.
But if they're good, they're going to go to the NFL draft,
which means that at best they might play 26 games, 28 games if
they're lucky before they go to the NFL.
If they play three years, maybe they get to that 40 if they're
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playing 14 games a year. But again, that's that's how
that's how the margins are. So assume you're a quarterback
that goes to a place where they got a quarterback that can play,
which is probably the case you sit for a year.
So that's one. If you have a great year in your
first year as a starter and you come back and you have a OK
year, likely you go in the NFL, it's probably pretty high.
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It's lower now because you can get more money to stay in
college. But assume that you're not going
to get more than 36 starts. If you exhaust your eligibility,
that's 12 games that are guaranteed each year because we
play 12 game seasons. If you play in the bowl game
every year, add another three. You're still only at 39. 40 is
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the number and I think that thisgroup of kids, and they're our
kids, they're adults, don't haveenough of that number for us to
trust them to be good. Meanwhile, Fernando Mendoza,
John Mater, Trinidad Chambliss, they played a lot of football as
starting quarterbacks, like JohnMaterial was starter at Wazula
all last year, Fernando Mendoza was starter at Cal all last
year. Trinidad Chambliss took Fair
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State to the national championship over UC OS dead
body. It matters playing the game,
getting experience. This is why I also say to the to
the kiddos that have made it this far into the show or ask me
any questions, Go out and make stuff.
Do this. Hang out with your friends, put
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stuff on tape, throw it out intothe world.
People will watch it. People won't watch it, but you
need the reps I how do you get good at talking on camera?
Talk on camera, but I'm not good.
You're not going to be good. You're going to suck.
It's going to hurt. Your taste is going to be
amazing. You got to know exactly what it
is you're looking for. You're just not going to be able
to achieve it yet. But you see it, you've got the
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talent to see it. And if you have the impulse to
say, I want to go and make something, I want to go and
record something, follow that, let's go make the thing.
Quarterbacks don't get to just make the thing.
Quarterbacks got to wait for somebody else to tell them, OK,
it's your turn. And then they got to make the
most of that. And I don't know about you,
Kate, because we haven't had this conversation, but I've
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never been the guy that can perform on day one.
Doesn't happen for me. I don't pick it up as quickly as
they're putting it down. I have to get reps and I usually
am able to make up a lot of ground because I get a lot of
reps in a short amount of time because I'm, well, I'm built
like how you know I'm built. You know, I go from, oh, I'm
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going to ride a bicycle in June to now I have probably going to
compete and I have other people coming up to me going, yo, dawg,
how long you been doing this? I don't know, two months?
I I have an idea for bike ridingby the way, just remind me
later. OK, OK.
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But does that, does that give you a, a decent enough
explanation for why I think these quarterbacks aren't that
good? Yes, yes.
And it, it makes me look at themmore Charitably, Charitably,
Charitably. Charitably, charitably,
charitably, yes. Excuse me?
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No, that. No, it's good.
It works. It's good.
Yeah, man, That's that's that's what I got for the show.
You got anything else you want to?
Talk about Nope, just I guess we'll talk after, you know, next
weekend. Yeah, man, let's let's pray
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that. Let's pray that I can make it
through a weekend without any Mike Gundy in Oklahoma State
talk. But I.
I haven't asked you about it. I didn't.
I didn't say that you were. I didn't say.
I'm just, I'm just saying. I came, man.
I came back from a bike ride today and at the beginning, at
the end. So what are they going to do at
Oklahoma State? Lose.
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Damn, RJ. Well, what else can they do at
this point? I I well, I mean, yeah, but
they're not gonna. That is this episode of Adapted
Respond. Hey, we're gonna hear.
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Have a goodnight, yes? That's the Kate say goodnight.
And goodnight. Bye.
Bye. Music.
No, OK. No, we we can't talk about Alien
Earth because this is the college football podcast.
OK, that's how that works. We'll talk about it later.
I'm sure because all of my best friends want to tell them, talk
to me about their Jump Square horror stories and or what alien
Earth is actually doing versus what it's not doing and how it
is not actually alien. But it is kind of cool.
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But but alien Earth? Can I tell you my opinion on
Alien Earth? No, you have to tell me your
opinion about Dabo Sweeney beingone in three.
Oh, sorry, fine. OK.
Yeah, we can do the alien Earth one another time, but.
We're always certain that. People listening to this they,
they, they. Don't care.
Unless, unless Xenomorph is going to show up in the transfer
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portal, in which case good luck.I mean all there.
There's a there's a great question, RJ has a a football
team ever done like a like hokeypromotional thing involving like
the Xenomorph from the Alien franchise?
Likely, not likely. Not that's fair, but why are
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they when a one and three? Well, because they they lost
three of the first four games they played.
Well yeah, but like the questionis why did they suck and then
not suck? I think, you know, the better
question is why did you pick them to play in the national
championship game next to Penn State, who also got beat?
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But they Penn State is is also three and one no no.
No, no, no. But they did what I said.
They were going to do what they've always done, frankly,
which is lose to a team in the top 10 because they can't beat
team in the top 10. They're 4 and 21 against teams
in the top ten with James Franklin as their head coach.
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I'm really just as a little bit of an aside, I'm really
embarrassed of like my first episode with you because, you
know, you were like pick teams and I felt like a lot of
pressure, you know, and I was like, Oh no, if I'm like wrong,
these people won't think I'm cool.
And then and then like I picked Clemson and Clemson is just not
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even on the board in any way like.
They were like noted OU footballgreat.
And ESPN analyst Dusty Dvorchek went out on a limb in Week 1.
Like that's the number one team in the country to me.
He said that. I don't say it's a limb.
It's not going out on a limb. It's what he actually believed.
He's just wrong. So you're really good company.
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That's, that's good. I I'm sure it was more
embarrassing for him than it is for me because I'm, you know,
me. Not as embarrassing actually.
Paul Finebaum saying that Texas is going to be great and arch
man is the best quarterback we've seen since Tim Tebow, only
to last week say I'm off of it. I'm totally off of it.
Please leave me alone. And then this week say, I think
I'm I think I'm going to get up from ESPN and run from U.S.
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Senate in the state of Alabama. I I think it's so, so funny
though that I like somehow just knew that I was going to find
Arch Manning annoying and I havecontinuously found him annoying
like this entire he. Reminds me of AI mean it it
makes sense that you would find him annoying and I don't mean
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that like because he's a Manninglike people would have to know
Kate to. Know.
Why I I knew this was going to find this going to be annoying
to her in particular, But without getting deeper into
that, it's Hey, you, you ever look at the kid that went to
private school and you know, youjust beat his ass?
That's how Kate tends to look atArch Manning.
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I could make that a bigger. I can make that.
Land a little bit. OK, but I'm sorry, but what?
But but what? I cannot beat Arch Manning at
anything, just to be fair. OK, barrel racing, I is he a
horseback rider, 'cause I'm surethat he could afford a better
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horse than I could ever afford in my life.
See, we're already getting there.
Already getting there? Did you win that buckle?
Did have I won a buckle for No, no, no.
No, no, I feel like that's a question that not Kate would ask
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Arch Manning. Did you win that buckle?
Well, like, I mean, Arch Manningis going to prove himself or
not, like I sure. And he's so young, like.
Just like all the rich kids, allthe rich kids with horses, all
the rich kids that come from theranches with lots of horses
where they get to trade them andor watch sources get sold for
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six figures. Yeah, yeah, He's definitely
going to be able to write his own ticket, as they say.
I. Don't.
Kate also loves horses and I do not.
So there, there's that. OK, that's underneath all of
this. I can't.
Why did? Why did you have to out me as
like a horse, horse girl or whatever?
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I think that. Because he's a Texas Longhorn.
That's why he picked Texas. He he grew up in New Orleans and
he picked, he picked Texas. Oh, I didn't know he grew up in
New Orleans you went to. Theodore Newman, which is a
highfalutin private school of the 1st Order in New Orleans.
Oh OK that makes more sense. I was about to say I thought he
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was from somewhere up north. No, no, no.
His granddaddy played for the New Orleans Saints, and while
the New Orleans Saints were cheeks, he was not.
But he was cool. But his dad didn't.
No, but they no. All of the Mannings grew up in
New Orleans. All of them.
Oh, Oh yeah. Well.
It's just his Uncle Eli went to Ole Miss, his Daddy Cooper went
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to Ole Miss, and his Uncle Peyton went to Tennessee.
That none of them went to LSU isby far and away one of the
wildest not coincidences ever happened in college football.
That's strange it Hey, why? Why is it not a coincidence?
I feel like we're getting a little bit off topic, but.
I mean, LSU took a loss to Ole Miss, so it's not necessarily
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that that. OK.
Unless you were the number 14 inthis in the country and then Ole
Miss beat them to be the number 14 in the country.
Ole Miss, which again had Eli Manning and had Archie Manning
and had Cooper Manning, but not Arch Manning or Peyton Manning
for that matter. But yeah, they all grew up in
New Orleans and of that of that ilk, the child picked Texas.
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Hence, I am throwing him in witha horse crowd like you because
you are a horse person. I am a horse person.
Oh, as an aside, I had a horse person absolutely, positively
stand me up on a bike ride. Interesting.
Was it because of a horse? No, I, I, I think she don't like
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me. I think that's it.
I think that's it. Well, if you profess how
strongly you hate horses to a. Horse person, I never got that
far. Oh, maybe she could sense it.
That's kind of, you know, you kind of.
No, I'm serious. Like you kind of like sense
sometimes like. If people would be into your.
Hobbies or not like. Yo what?
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No, that's not what happened. But she didn't mention that she
did equestrian stuff and I I swear I kept a straight face.
Oh wow, did you think, oh, this is an expensive, expensive
person right here in front of. You actually for those.
Of you who? They're all, they're all
expensive people in front of you.
I just want to say to those of you who don't know, owning a
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horse is they're. Like what does this have to do
with Clemson football? Yeah, it's almost like you pick
up like Warhammer is a hobby. That's like what, you know,
owning a horse. Oh, sorry, excuse me, I'm not
supposed to talk about Warhammeron the very serious football.
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No, no, no, no, no, no. If, if, if, if your partner was
not a Warhammer hobbyist, how much?
What hammer would you talk about?
I I like Warhammer, I do. I actually like a lot of the
books and I have several of the games, including Space Marine 2.
OK, you realize that you, you'vewalked into a there, there are
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two kinds of people that watch this show.
Two kinds listen to the show. They know exactly they they,
they know absolutely, positivelynothing about what you're
talking about. And they're all in.
They have leaned forward. They have gone.
I'm sorry, did she say Warhammer?
And then there are people like, what are they talking about?
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So I land there, but the horse part came from the arch manning
part. Which is one of your favorite
topics of this 2025 season? Quite honest, I.
Guys, if somehow I can meet ArchManning, I would really
appreciate it because I would just like to shake his hand and.
What? And and say, I don't know, I
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liked you in that one commercialthat you were on that I saw
who's he? Who's he advertising for?
It's. Like there's, there's like
there's like. Yeah, yeah, I know.
I can't remember. I watched this commercial and
it's like hey it's arch meaning.I I look, look, I have never
been blowing up so much about what Arch Man is or isn't doing
or what Oklahoma State is or isn't doing as I have been in
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the last three weeks. I'm so sorry that you and I, RJ,
was in a chat between myself andour friend and we were just
talking about Oklahoma State like the whole time.
Well, I'm a, I'm an alumnus actually of Oklahoma State, so.
You had, yes, you, you and Ron both have.
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That's the why you should be talking about Oklahoma State
football. I myself just showed up there
to, to, to, to to talk noise because it's a football program
that still hasn't beaten an FBS program since September 14 last
year and is not likely to beat one this year.
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It is in shambles. They had to indefinitely suspend
their director player personnel because of how he was talking to
a safety on the sideline that isno longer with the team.
They had to fire their defensivecoordinator yesterday.
They are in Campbells. And, and the worst part about
living here is the people that don't want to talk about
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Oklahoma do want to talk about Oklahoma State.
Yeah. But not necessarily with me,
because they know that I'm an Oklahoma fan and I am not in any
way helping them commiserate with the $15 million that they
found to pay Mike Gundy to go away.
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But remember, it wasn't out of that whatever budget that they
keep talking about. No, no, no.
It was out of the general operating budget.
I thought that they said that itwasn't like in the letter.
No, no, no, no, Chad Weiberg said.
I did not ask our donors to contribute.
Oh, that's what it was. I'm sorry.
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You're right. You're right.
Because usually that's what happens.
The donor shows up and says, I'll give you the money if you
let me pick the next guy or participate in the search for
the next guy. And they say deal.
This time he had enough money intheir general, in their checking
account to go, Nah, screw this, we can't, No, no, this is done.
This is over. And by the way, Chad Weiberg got
to do this without a contract, like he's working without a
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contract. He's going to, he's confident,
he's going to get 1. And I am his confidence.
He is after what he was able to pull off.
But the idea that people care somuch about Oklahoma State
football, mostly because it's been good for the last 20 years
and it's got about 100 years before that of just being crap.
Save like 2 years, like 8889. Yeah, OK, cool.
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Good years. You all had the Heisman Trophy
winner in Thurman Thomas. But don't you think part of that
is like, since OU and OSU have been good for, you know, you
know, they've both been good fora relatively long time?
You know, like, I mean, I think it's 'cause I'm here though,
like inundated with the rivalry thing, you know, like all the
house divided stuff. Like, do you think that it kind
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of creates like more drama and like popularity for the teams?
I don't know, like have you? Looked at the records between
Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. Well, not recently.
Well, you should OK, you you should it it's worth look and
you tell me how relevant Bedlam is.
Look, they've won more of the last couple of years than they
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have in recent in you know, the many years past.
But if you look at the stats it's very one sided and the
house divided stuff only makes sense if your spouse went to the
other university. Like that's the only way it
makes sense. People also conveniently forget
that the University of Tulsa hasfour times as many Pro Football
Hall of Farmers as Oklahoma State does.
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It's kind of wild actually. Matter of fact, I want to say TU
has four times as many as Clemson too.
Certainly he's got the highest paid offensive guard of all
time. Plays for Dallas Cowboys name is
Tyler Smith. They have the Bed and Eric award
winner, which is the best defensive player in the entire
country in 2020, and Xavin Collins, who is also an all
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American. I mean, I can continue to list
all the ways in which TU has pound for pound, punch TU in the
face. Excuse me, punch OSU in the face
for like 20 years, but nobody cares because it's the smallest
university in the country playing FPS football and it cost
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an arm and a leg to go to schoolthere.
So most people don't send their kids to go to school there.
It's also funny that of our coregroup of friends, I believe I'm
the only person with a diploma from the University of Oklahoma
at all. And all of us, save 2, have
stepped foot on that campus for one reason or another to take
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classes. Yeah, I think you're right.
AG schools coming up for the winon that one.
That's that's all I got on that I think.
Go ahead. Oh, I was just going to.
Your face. Otherwise I would.
I would. I would.
Sorry, I was. I was just kind of thinking
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about the the thing I was jokingabout earlier, about how like 4
out of the top five schools start with an O.
Ohio State, Oregon. Finish it.
Old Miss, sorry old Miss is above Oklahoma.
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Correct 4/4 out of five so. Yeah.
The only one you're missing by right now is like Miami, and
they're going to play. Florida State, Yeah.
Oh yeah, it's Miami. Who do you got in that game?
I think that they'll beat Florida State, right?
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Who is they? Did I lose track of who who you
said was playing who? I think so.
I did OK. I'm sorry, could you please
repeat it? See, this is this is the part
where I have to remind listenersthat those of you that somehow
believe that Kate is here for the for the football knowledge
or missing the point, she's herefor the RJ knowledge that that's
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the point. So if you want.
To be yeah, we were supposed to be doing it more in the form of
questions. That's.
No, no, no, no. It's we're we're doing it and
they're listening to it or they're watching it and they're
going to they're going to say and think what they think.
Miami Hurricanes so short canes,right, They're undefeated,
they're top 25 program. They're top 10 program.
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They're top five program, but they had beaten Notre Dame right
in Miami and it turns out Notre Dame is garbage to use that
French term because they're I mean they're.
Do you think TU is going to beatthem again or have they already
played? They don't play TU this year and
I swear to, I swear Kate, damn it.
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Sorry. No, you're not.
Because now you're actually not.I know you're not.
I know like TU and Oklahoma State, ain't nobody, nobody
cares. I so cares.
So I was at TU. The last time at TU played Notre
Dame, Little beat Notre Dame. It was 10 years ago.
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The coach, I mean a head coach. You want to head coach with
quarterback? I was at TU, this this this week
and I went by the football team.You went by the football team.
I did. I drove by them because you
know, they're coming out of practice.
They they run morning drills. Arge, I don't know what to tell
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you. Anyway, so like the I, I had to
like almost physically restrain myself from being like good job
beating OSU so I didn't say anything and just walk by them
like a weirdo. Oh, my friends are fans, so all
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right. If nothing else, dear viewer
dear. Listener.
If you've ever wondered about how biased or unbiased I am, I I
am. I am physically hurting from the
idea of needing to tell the University of Tulsa football
players. Good job for doing their job for
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playing the game and winning thegame.
You know, some people like hearing good job when they're
good at their jobs, you know? And, and and you somehow believe
that someone else, namely their coach, did not tell them good
job. I didn't say it to them.
But you what? I kept.
It inside, I don't have that impulse.
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I don't have that impulse. I don't have that impulse when I
go by Bud Crawford for beating Canelo, which might be the most
significant bout of my entire life in a sport that I love.
I don't need to tell show, show.Hey, Otani, you know what?
Good job for being the first dude ever to hit sixty home runs
and sixty stolen bases and still60.
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And also this is a double thing.Strikeouts and 50 stolen base.
My God, that dude. Fifty home runs.
He's ridiculous. He is.
People that are doing good, theythey know it.
Other people are hearing it. Like I just can't even, I just
don't feel like people really appreciate like what an amazing
athlete Otani is. I mean, I know that a lot of
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people do cause a lot of people love him, right?
But like he is insane. Like is he he?
Is he an anime character in somehow human form like?
Is that unless we're talking about Golden Boy, I don't want
to hear it. Oh, that anime.
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She said. Oh, that anime.
Yeah, did. You hear the judgment in her
voice. It wasn't judgment, I was like,
why are you talking about that anime?
It's from late 1987. It's perfect.
It's it's a shame it only got two seasons.
It should have a Dragon Ball Z run.
My favorite part of that anime, again, we're not talking about
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football, but my favorite part of that anime is where he's
observing his boss, who is speaking in English on the phone
in the office that they're at. And he's like, oh wow, she's so
amazing. Like she's completely fluent in
English and the woman is just speaking like.
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Extremely broken, terrible English like the Japanese voice
actor seem to be playing it up for like oh this guy's an idiot
who doesn't know about anything but I mean.
That, that is that, that for me is a lot of Japanese, excuse me,
a lot of anime. Forget Japanese, it's a lot of
anime. It's just that we're we're,
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we're leaning into the bit in a different way.
So who do you think is going to win the national championship?
Are we far enough along that I can ask you that?
Well, I'm already getting yelledat for saying that Ohio State
might have the best defense of the 21st century, if not all
time. But they're Ohio State fans are
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like, dog, for real. And I'm like, yeah, for real,
for real. They are averaging.
They're giving up five and a half points per game.
How is that compared to other teams?
Well, 2011 Alabama has the best defense that we've seen
basically in the national championship era in the 21st
century, and they gave up 8.2 points per game.
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Now, there are two ways to look at this.
You could say Ohio State ain't played nobody, in which case,
OK, sure, Washington doesn't do it for you.
But Texas does, and they held them to seven points.
They're also not allowing peopleto score touchdowns in the red
zone, which is really big. They still haven't given up one
of those, and they're able to play incredible pass defense
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against teams that want to throwthe football.
So for now, I believe that the Buckeyes are the clear number
one team in the country by some margin, and it doesn't feel like
anybody's going to challenge them until they got to play Penn
State later this year. But they have treated Penn State
a lot like Oklahoma has treated Oklahoma State.
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They just beat their ass and Penn State, no matter what time
it is, find a way to lose a football game to a team that is
ranked inside the top 10 becausethat's just who they are.
Now, Ohio State hasn't beaten Michigan since 2019, and that's
going to be the one because evenlast year they were supposed to
stop a mud hole in Michigan and walk it dry.
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They weren't able to do that. They still won the national
championship, right? But they weren't able to do it.
So today, as it was more or lessat the start of the season, Ohio
State is my pick to win the national championship.
Now who's going to play them in the national championship is an
even more interesting question. So who do you think is going to
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play them? Well, it ain't going to be
Clemson. I will, obviously.
As I said, they're just not even.
I feel like I cursed them or something but.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You should know that Clemson has
been new money for like 15 years.
So Clemson won one national championship from the time it
started playing college footballuntil 2015, and it was in 1981.
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And it's kind of like we voted on who the national championship
national champion is, which is one of the stupidest things that
we've ever done. This sport is vote on who wins
what. I hate it.
But now we have a tournament to decide this.
And Clemson has won that tournament twice, and they have
been very good under Dabo Sweeney, who does it his way.
If there's an East Coast versionof Mike Gundy, it's that guy who
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will remind you every chance he gets, how many games he's won,
how many championships he's won,how good they have been, All
because he's been the head coachlast year in an epic radio call
back when Dabo Sweeney still took calls from the public at
his coaches show, which frankly are always one of the coolest
things in the world. And I hate that they went away
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because you got somebody out there who's loaded up for bear
coming after this coach they letthrough.
So last year it was Tyler from Spartanburg who asked Dabo
Sweeney why it is that he gets paid 11 plus $1,000,000 for what
was not a great product on the football field and doesn't
amount to winning championships.Now they came back and they won
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a championship but Dabo went in for 5 minutes on Tyler from
Spartanburg and ends with you can come down and apply for the
job. And now I got to believe that
Tyler from Spartanburg is going to see, I told y'all, this guy,
in large part because Dabo wantsto do it his way and his way has
been working and is a really difficult man to tell.
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The bootstrap story doesn't workbecause it worked for him.
And it worked for him in a dramatic way.
This man who shared a dorm bed, not a dorm room, a dorm bed with
his Mama at the University of Alabama while playing football
and then was going to go sell used cars after college when the
head coach, Gene Stalin said, no, you should come be a grad
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assistant for me. And that's how he got started
coaching football. Then he became the wide
receivers coach at Clemson. They fired the head coach, in
which case he does what every other coach would do when he
comes home and tells his wife, we got fired today.
Because usually what happens is they they clean house, right?
Head coach gets fired, everybodyelse gets fired.
But they made him the interim, which is essentially the dead
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man walking. You have to carry this to the
end. But he turned that team into a
winner and in such a way that they said we're going to give
you the job. So not only did he become a head
coach, he became a head coach without the step of needing to
be a coordinator first, which isstill really, really difficult
to do. And then he went on a tear of
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winning heretofore unforeseen bya man with his credentials.
So you can't tell that man nothing.
He believed that because he did it, you can do it.
And I keep telling people that white privilege is real and that
just because you did it your waydoesn't mean everybody else can
do it your way. And this is a man, like many
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folks that believe, no, no, no, no, no, no, I did it and I'm a
regular, regular person. No, you're not a regular person.
And I need you to stop saying that.
Now, we have this conversation writ large about a lot of
different topics. But with Clemson, it becomes
personal in a hurry that it's Clemson.
And I think I have this right isa town of something like 17,000
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people. I think they've got a larger
student body than they've got a population in that city.
So much so the people are shocked to find out that
Clemson, SC is in fact, where Clemson is.
What do you tell them? What do you tell people about
going to Death Valley, which is real, right?
That's what they called the stadium and it earned its
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nickname. You go into this whole, this
hole in the ground that's humid and hot and abrasive to all that
are not raised in it or work in it, and the humidity is heavy on
your head and you can't understand what is this moodoo,
this mojo that they got going over here.
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And all they can tell you is we're just a little old Clemson.
You ain't got to worry about that.
Then they go to whooping your whole ass.
So this one in three Clemson could very well end up being a
nine in three Clemson and they could very well end up playing
the ACC Championship. But for that happen, we need
some, we need some carnage. Georgia Tech's undefeated
Florida State took a loss to Virginia.
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Virginia might be legit, We're not sure.
Florida State might be legit, we're not sure.
Because Alabama went into Georgia and beat Georgia, which
makes them the first team to beat Georgia at Georgia in damn
near 5 years. It's really remarkable.
They're also the only people who've been able to beat Georgia
consistently. Like, Kirby Smart is something
like one in 10 against Alabama in particular, but he's got a
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gargantuanly awesome record against everybody else.
That same Alabama team lost Florida State.
OK Florida State beat that Alabama team at home.
Florida State gets Miami at home.
So is the Mojo working when they're playing at Dope
Campbell? We'll find out this Saturday.
Then Georgia Tech, who beat Colorado and beat Clemson,
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needed overtime to beat windlessWake Forest, who's sorry and
sucks, But it's also in the ACCAprogram that is trying to figure
out what it's going to be in thenew college football, all while
Virginia Tech has fired its headcoach in Brent Pride.
UNC in North Carolina suck, but they got Bill Belichick.
And if Bell Belichick can go beat Dabo Sweeney and Clemson,
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it's going to get way worse for Clemson.
It'll be about the same for BillBelichick in North Carolina,
who's got, you know, his home girl.
She calling the shots. She walking up there talking
about what's she going to do andwhat they're not going to do,
why they being sorry and all toward the middle of this
particular conference. You've got teams like SMU got
teams like Cal. You got other teams that can pop
up and do something. We're not sure what the ACC is
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or isn't. We just know that right now
Clemson is off to its worst start that we've ever seen for
Dabo Sweeney. And it's really easy to say that
they're getting the water when they've been a back half team
for like the last five years. Like they'll they'll find a
reason or find a way to go win, we think because they're just
too talented. Like, there are four players on
their team that should get selected in the first two rounds
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of the NFL draft like that. They're just, they're that
talented. They just ain't been able to
play fundamentally sound football for four quarters,
which is another reason to bet on them.
That aside, Miami's got some generational talents of
themselves of their own, and they got a defensive line that
might be as good as the NFC North.
Ruben Bayne is a monster. Don't want that dude coming off
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the age after me because he he does feel like, you know, a
Batman villain. Carson Black's fine, they've got
a couple of dudes at wide receiver that can play, but
we'll find out that that's the big game on the schedule this
week. I'm not sure that Florida State
has enough to contend with that defensive line.
Tommy Castellano likes to be outthere making magic happen with
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his feet, but the problem with having a quarterback that makes
magic with his feet is much morelikely to get hurt.
See John Mateer, if Reuben Bain and them get a hold, get a hold
of him. It's not going to be pretty and
I'm not sure that they got anybody behind him that he
trusts. So we'll find out today.
I'm picking Miami, but that doesn't make me special, right?
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That just means I'm picking the higher ranked team in the
undefeated team. Outside of that, we'll see.
We'll see. See all, all of what you just,
you know, said and everything islike one of the reasons I really
love like coming on here and talking to you about football
stuff, 'cause, you know, like I can watch some of the games and
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you know, like read who's won and that sort of thing.
But I don't have like a lot of context, you know, for, you
know, what is happening like this season as opposed to
previous seasons, you know what I mean?
So it's like, you know, it's like Clemson losing.
I'm like, I thought they like, my vague impression of them was
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that they were like pretty good,you know, And now you're
explaining to me like why they're, you know, it's just
nice. Anyway, that's fun.
I I, I appreciate having utilityin my job, Kate.
I think that's the reason why people watch this show is
providing context. OK, so we have covered Miami, FL
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State. We talked a little bit about
Ohio State. Who's going to beat the crap out
of Minnesota? Oklahoma's got Kent State, but
we're not really going to talk about that.
The question I think is most interesting to go out on is why
do all of the preseason Heisman finalists suck?
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Arch Manning is not great, Garrett Nussmeyer is not great,
DJ Lagway sucks, Cage Klubnik sucks, Drew Aller is garbage.
Why do you think all of these these grown ass men have not
been as good as Trinidad Chambliss at Ole Miss, John
Metier at Oklahoma, Fernando Mendoza and Indiana?
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Are you asking me that specifically?
I mean, I'm asking you to take aguess.
Just just a guess. Well, all of the guys that are
not living up to expectations currently probably, I don't
know, had a lot more expectations.
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And I will say that I've seen them advertised a lot more.
So maybe they're doing other things besides focusing on
football. It's it's That is a common
refrain among many fans and coaches.
My corollary here is DJ Uyong Lily, who is supposed to be a
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Heisman favorite at Florida State turned out to flame out.
They famously went 2 and 10 lastyear.
He went undrafted and got cut bythe Los Angeles Chargers.
This is a guy that came out as Ibelieve the number two overall
quarterback in the 2020 class. The guy he was behind Bryce
Young went to Alabama. He won a Heisman Trophy and had
a better job in the ain't done abetter job in the NFL, but he
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was a Heisman Trophy winner. DJ Uyongole was not in as far as
why these particular group of high, highly valued, highly
talented quarterbacks he's been sorry, I genuinely think that
they got to play more football like Garrett Nutsmeyer is is
kind of perplexing because he played all last year and he
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threw for 4000 yards and he's got better tools around him this
year than he did last year. Kate Klubnick, same difference.
But I wasn't sold on him coming out of Austin Westlake even as
he won a state championship. I just didn't see it like I I
didn't like the the way he threwa football.
I didn't like his mechanics. I did like his moxie.
Yeah, they went to go get him because Ty Simpson ended up at
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Alabama. Another guy that's going to
enter the Heisman race. But Ty Simpson was going to go
to Clemson is not to Alabama. So they go get K Club.
Nick plays fine last year. His stats are tantamount to what
Baker Mayfield was doing in his Heisman Trophy.
We're not this year. DJ Lagway was national Gatorade
player of the year I believe in 2023 coming out of Willis, TX.
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Got all the tools. He just has been garbage.
He went from being undefeated asa starting quarterback to he
threw 5 interceptions against LSU in a game that they probably
could have won if he threw just three interceptions.
And three interceptions is a lotin any football game. 5 can't
have that. Probably going to get his head
coach fired. Drew Aller plays an offense
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that's not geared for him, but for the second game against the
top five or top 10 opponent, he threw the interception to seal
the victory for the other team when he had an opportunity to go
win the game. It is a guy that has not
measured up to the moment and that's what you need when you
need to have a quarterback at Penn State.
You have to measure up to the moment.
You can't be the guy throw an interception, you need to be the
guy making a play. Arch needs to play more
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football. He has started all of 1234, I
believe that dude started five games in his entire life.
And quarterback is a position where the more starts you have,
the better you're going to perform.
It's just that simple. You need reps, you need time,
you need seat time is what we used to call it, right?
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For me, it's as I'm going on my cycling journey, it's time on
the bike. You just you need to be exposed
to things over and over again and new situations.
And here it is. Kate and I are both decent chess
players. I actually for the listener, I
still have on my phone a game that Micah Parsons tilted to me
(35:52):
on the chess app. OK, for those of y'all that
Kate, do you know who Micah Parsons is?
Yes. OK, so I'm good.
Kate's good. But the reason that I'm good and
the reason I Kate is good is kind of like I can solve a
Rubik's Cube, any Rubik's Cube. You can scramble as much as you
want. I've seen enough of the patterns
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to where I can tell you what situation needs right then right
there. She can chunk it.
And that's what quarterbacks aredoing when they see a play call
you. So, oh, I've seen this before.
I know how to beat this. One of the reasons that Patrick
Mahomes is so good as a quarterback is he's got a
photographic memory. If he sees it once he's got it,
that's his superpower. If you have that kind of recall
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and you know what they're going to do, it's no longer needing to
play football. It's just needing to go back
through your memory bank and go,oh, I know what to do in this
situation because I've seen it once.
In the case of Patrick Mahomes, most of us, we got to see it
1520 eleven times for we get it drilled into our brain.
This is what you got to do when you see this happen.
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There is no other way or this isthe only way that works.
Arch Manning doesn't have that. He has the skill set to take
advantage of it when he sees it,and that is quite literally 90%
of the battle. And I think that's the case with
all of these guys. They need to see it and they
need to experience it more often.
Quarterback's still a position that we coddle.
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Quarterback's not a position where we go all out.
We're not allowed to hit the quarterback.
So the first time that dude getshit and the only time that dude
gets hit is during the season. How do you know with the speed
of the game if you never see it in practice?
If guys are told to pull up right before they're going to
waylay you, That's the only way we know how to teach it too,
because you can't have the quarterback getting hurt.
I genuinely think it's that simple.
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They need more time playing quarterback.
So So what you're saying is pretty much the only real
experience game experience they get, is it their first like
couple of games? I Well, OK for another reason.
Another example here is Dylan Gabriel is going to start for
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the Cleveland Browns this weekend.
He has more starts than any other quarterback in college
football history. Wild guess.
How many starts do you think he has made?
Just a wild guess. Yes, he has played six years of
college football. How many starts did he make
during that time? 10630 That is the most start by
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by any person in college football history.
And to measure up to be good in the NFL, the number needs to be
closer to 40, which means that you have to play an average of
10 games a year for four years. Most quarterbacks are not going
to get that opportunity because their first year they're going
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to red shirt, they're going to sit behind someone else that has
earned their job. They're going to learn from them
and then they might play the next two years.
But if they're good, they're going to go to the NFL draft,
which means that at best they might play 26 games, 28 games if
they're lucky before they go to the NFL.
If they play three years, maybe they get to that 40 if they're
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playing 14 games a year. But again, that's that's how
that's how the margins are. So assume you're a quarterback
that goes to a place where they got a quarterback that can play,
which is probably the case you sit for a year.
So that's one. If you have a great year in your
first year as a starter and you come back and you have a OK
year, likely you go in the NFL, it's probably pretty high.
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It's lower now because you can get more money to stay in
college. But assume that you're not going
to get more than 36 starts. If you exhaust your eligibility,
that's 12 games that are guaranteed each year because we
play 12 game seasons. If you play in the bowl game
every year, add another three. You're still only at 39. 40 is
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the number and I think that thisgroup of kids, and they're our
kids, they're adults, don't haveenough of that number for us to
trust them to be good. Meanwhile, Fernando Mendoza,
John Mater, Trinidad Chambliss, they played a lot of football as
starting quarterbacks, like JohnMaterial was starter at Wazula
all last year, Fernando Mendoza was starter at Cal all last
year. Trinidad Chambliss took Fair
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State to the national championship over UC OS dead
body. It matters playing the game,
getting experience. This is why I also say to the to
the kiddos that have made it this far into the show or ask me
any questions, Go out and make stuff.
Do this. Hang out with your friends, put
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stuff on tape, throw it out intothe world.
People will watch it. People won't watch it, but you
need the reps I how do you get good at talking on camera?
Talk on camera, but I'm not good.
You're not going to be good. You're going to suck.
It's going to hurt. Your taste is going to be
amazing. You got to know exactly what it
is you're looking for. You're just not going to be able
to achieve it yet. But you see it, you've got the
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talent to see it. And if you have the impulse to
say, I want to go and make something, I want to go and
record something, follow that, let's go make the thing.
Quarterbacks don't get to just make the thing.
Quarterbacks got to wait for somebody else to tell them, OK,
it's your turn. And then they got to make the
most of that. And I don't know about you,
Kate, because we haven't had this conversation, but I've
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never been the guy that can perform on day one.
Doesn't happen for me. I don't pick it up as quickly as
they're putting it down. I have to get reps and I usually
am able to make up a lot of ground because I get a lot of
reps in a short amount of time because I'm, well, I'm built
like how you know I'm built. You know, I go from, oh, I'm
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going to ride a bicycle in June to now I have probably going to
compete and I have other people coming up to me going, yo, dawg,
how long you been doing this? I don't know, two months?
I I have an idea for bike ridingby the way, just remind me
later. OK, OK.
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But does that, does that give you a, a decent enough
explanation for why I think these quarterbacks aren't that
good? Yes, yes.
And it, it makes me look at themmore Charitably, Charitably,
Charitably. Charitably, charitably,
charitably, yes. Excuse me?
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No, that. No, it's good.
It works. It's good.
Yeah, man, That's that's that's what I got for the show.
You got anything else you want to?
Talk about Nope, just I guess we'll talk after, you know, next
weekend. Yeah, man, let's let's pray
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that. Let's pray that I can make it
through a weekend without any Mike Gundy in Oklahoma State
talk. But I.
I haven't asked you about it. I didn't.
I didn't say that you were. I didn't say.
I'm just, I'm just saying. I came, man.
I came back from a bike ride today and at the beginning, at
the end. So what are they going to do at
Oklahoma State? Lose.
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Damn, RJ. Well, what else can they do at
this point? I I well, I mean, yeah, but
they're not gonna. That is this episode of Adapted
Respond. Hey, we're gonna hear.
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Have a goodnight, yes? That's the Kate say goodnight.
And goodnight. Bye.
Bye. Music.
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