July 12, 2025 • 31 mins
Oklahoma QB John Mateer threw for 3,139 yards, rushed for 826 and helped Washington State get to the Holiday Bowl in 2024. Can he lead the Sooners past Arch Manning and the Longhorns? Can Texas A&M beat Texas for the first time in 15 years (12:37) Jake Retzlaff withdrew from BYU (22:18)
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Is John Mateer enough for Oklahoma to pull off what right
now feels like it would be an upset in the latest edition of
OU Texas? And what conclusions can we
draw? Who wins that game?
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What's up kinfolk, it's RJ Young.
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question in the comments below. Is John Metier enough for
Oklahoma to beat Texas? Also going to remind you that we
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where I fill out all of these addresses and write these notes
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Check us out. All right, so John Metier is the
biggest X Factor, I think of this entire college football
season, but certainly in OU, Texas, as he is coming back home
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of sorts to play in a game that he grew up watching.
He went to Little Elm, play highschool football and went to go
play for Ben Arbuckle at Washington State, Jake Dickert
and put on one hell of a show last year with over three 3800
yards passing and 826 yards on the ground.
Really, really great player thatdidn't get an opportunity to
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showcase that talent a lot on the big stage and didn't play a
lot of big name opponents. Played Texas Tech people going,
yeah, he went 9 or 19 for 1:15 adog.
You missed that part where he rushed from 197 yards because I
didn't or hey, look at what he did.
The Boise State, which is torch him, just absolutely took them
apart. Now, Boise State had this dude
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Ashton Gente that made an entirehighlight tape out of just
rushing against eight in the boxand killing people.
So John Matier's performance waslost in that game as Boise State
did what Boise State had been doing all year, save Oregon.
Then they get to play Penn Statein the College Football Playoff.
And that goes about the way you would think it would go when you
see Boise State matched up against Penn State or Boyd State
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patched up against Oregon. OK, so Matier continues to play
really well through for 390 against San Jose State.
Great game and becomes one of the hottest, if not the hottest
offensive commodity in the portal.
And Brent Venables had to do something.
He had to fire the offensive coordinator in October.
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Seth Latrell, He had benched thestarting quarterback who gained
his spot. Beat Alabama, Still going to go
into the portal. Now come out at Auburn.
Jackson Arnold expects to be thestarter down there.
Michael Hawkins, probably not good enough to get you past the
team like Texas, let alone play for the kind of championships
that Oklahoma wants to play for.So what do you do?
You go get the offensive coordinator who is not 30 yet,
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and you're betting on a guy who seems to know exactly what to do
with his scheme. And you're telling him, do you
think you can bring the quarterback with you?
And we're going to try to pair you up Because that has worked
in the past. Like Utah's going this route
with Jason Beck and Devin Dampier, who put up like 484
yards offense last year togetherat New Mexico.
You see this work in a more often than not, right?
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Like, I'm thinking about LincolnRiley and what he'd been able to
do with transfer quarterbacks. He'd bring in Kyler Murray.
It worked. Baker Mayfield, it worked well.
Baker goes to Bob, but you get my point there.
Jalen Hurts, it worked, right? The last homegrown dude he had
that turned out to be good. Caleb Williams won the Heisman
Trophy, right? But did that at SC and that
partnership was a big deal. I always got this thing about
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offensive coordinators and quarterbacks and how they're
paired together and seem to be symbiotic.
They got a really good brotherlyrelationship that you can rely
on to see things. I think about this as a as a
writer and host. When I talk to editor and
producer, when I'm at my best, Iam In Sync with my editor and or
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my producer. It's less like I'm getting a
play call and it's more like, hey, see it, do it.
You know, you know what you're looking at, you know the
coverage, you know what we can do, You know how to get us in
and get us out. Trust your abilities, right?
I love that. I absolutely love that.
And there's a time in my life when I'm sure I'm going to be
the offensive coordinator, not the quarterback.
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So I'm always paying attention to these things, right?
How do you coach them up in thisway?
How do you not get in their way?How do you say no, run it?
Or what Kenny Dillingham used tosay to his quarterbacks, the
offense coordinators. Your job is to make me right.
If I send you a play call that is wrong, get us the hell out of
it and get us into something that works, that's your job.
I'm going to give you my best. My best might suck once or twice
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again, but if you catch it and you see it, do something about
it every now and again, you might do that and it might go
wrongly for you. But we're not going to go at
each other's throats about this.We're going to go.
What'd you see? OK, I see that now.
We know that that's a disguise now.
We know that they're going to rotate from quarters into, let's
call it Cover 3, right where thewindows and football as it is
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drawn out. It's not really complicated
game, It's just complicated to execute at a high level every
single time. Like I put it another way, when
I talk about Formula One, I can throw down a lap time on a clear
track. I can be as fast as Max
Verstappen on F12526, right? Turning, turning corners, making
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this thing happen, and probably put a faster time on pole.
But two things 1, I had the benefit of being able to crash
the car to figure out just wheremy limits are, where the limits
of the track are. And two, I can do it one time.
I can't do it 52 times in a row at Silverstone.
I might be able to get 10 or 12 really, really snappy laps that
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are within 100th of a second of themselves.
But that's when your focus and your ability starts to wane and
stretch because lap in, lap out,that's a long time to be on,
right? That is what we're talking
about. We're talking about can you make
a play against what you know is there each and every time you
step on the field? You know they're coming out with
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11 men. You know that four or five of
them are going to be defensive back, maybe 6, but they're going
to give that away with a dime defense.
Like it's simple pre snap reads,it's simple pro snap reads.
It's how quickly can you decipher what it is that they
are willing to give you and thenget that the football to that
point or to that player. John Metier does a lot of this
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post snap. I in a many respects.
He reminds me of Jalen Daniels where if you roll him out,
probably going to make a play because you roll him out, he
gets to read high, low and he's probably going to go high before
he goes low, right? I'm saying like his quarterback,
I want to go route. Matter of fact, I was at A7 on 7
just taking in, you know, doing the National College football
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handle, this Fox Sports thing where you go around, you shake
hands, you get to know people. And I saw it's one of my
favorite stories to tell, man. It's quarterback running dagger
concept to the field and offensecoordinator saw him throw the go
route. For those of you don't know,
dagger concept is we have a go route in the slot and we have a
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deep end or, or dig or even a post, right that we're going to
cross up because the the point here is to take the safety with
clear out, right. So you get that one one-on-one
or maybe even get a bit of a cushion there where you can just
slide it in. But I had a quarterback that
knew he could throw the ball 60 yards, and he knew that his wide
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receiver was going to outrun thesafety.
That's what he did. And they called it again, and he
did it again. And coordinator says, son, we're
running dagger. And he says, yeah, coach, but I
can make that play. Sit down.
You know, for me as a coordinator, I don't go sit
down. I go, all right, cool.
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It worked on in the next play. So I gave him something to work
either way, right? You had you had a winner, you
had a winner with the go, you had a winner with the dig, you
had a winner with the with the end.
And by the way, in some offenses, the wide receiver gets
to make that side adjustment andthen you know, the quarterback
hopes they see the same thing, right?
Depending on where you're lined up and where the defense back is
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aligned and how deep or how softthe safeties play on you, all
these things matter. All I'm saying is John Material
doesn't necessarily need to be the best player, excuse me, the
best quarterback on the field. He needs to be the best player
on the field. Now history.
There have been two. Let me put it another way.
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Britt Venables has coached 3 OU Texas games as head coach.
In two of them, they have scoreda total of three points.
That ain't that ain't that. Ain't gonna get it done.
Like we'll throw out the 49 and 0 game.
I know Texas fans won't, but I will because played the game
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without a quarterback and they played the game with queen of
yours. OK, Dylan Gabriel comes back.
Feel real good about ourselves. And then Dylan Gabriel's gone.
Feel real bad about ourselves. It goes how you think it might
go in both of those instances, but we're thinking that John
Matier is more of the Dylan Gabriel variety.
Now that said, that Texas team still damn near beat Oklahoma.
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I should say. Oklahoma had to claw back with
one hell of us drive to finish the game to go get 6 and win it,
and it was really, really great and outstanding to watch.
But Texas had the better team that day.
Oklahoma got the better plays. This year, it feels like Texas
will have a better team. We'll see if Oklahoma can make
the better plays. John Mateer has a big role to
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play in that. Now also, Texas, be the first.
People tell you we own the rivalry of Oklahoma.
We are on the rivalry with A&M. What do we got to be afraid of
losing? You take a loss to an Oklahoma
team that say they loses to Michigan, you know that ain't
going to be good for your resume.
Now forget not good for your resume.
You might not make the SEC championship game if you're
taking losses to an Oklahoma team that takes loss to
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Michigan. This is a year for which Arch
Manning and them are supposed tobe playing for the national
championship and at the very least, get back to the SEC
championship game and perhaps win the damn thing this time.
We'll see. They got to go to Sanford this
year, which I just mean, I'm going to say Georgia wins that
game until I see Texas can do itbecause I watched Georgia play
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Texas at Texas, play Texas in the SEC championship game and
win both. All right, it's different over
there. It just is.
Like put another way, I love thestat and I keep repeating it.
Georgia's had just one 1000 yardreceiver in its entire school
history. 1 and it ain't who you think it is.
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It's Terrence Edwards 2002. He had 1004 yards.
That is the most receiving yardsby any player.
Tight end, half back wide receiver at Georgia in one year
means they went back-to-back 2122 without a 1000 yard
receiver and they played 15 games.
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Texas can't do that. Texas is going to have to have
somebody that can make plays on the perimeter because they don't
have the kind of defense that Georgia seems to put in year and
year out where I can just sit onyou.
And when they got that kind of defense, they don't take losses
to Ole Miss, They don't take losses to Bama, OK, they don't
get bounced by Notre Dame. When they got that kind of
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defense, it's the Philadelphia Eagles going, hey, we'll take
all of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll just
take all of them. 2122, Yeah, yeah.
All those Georgia Bulldogs, we would like them all because
that's what Kirby Smart's able to get over there.
So can John Material make the difference?
Yes, because Dylan Gabriel made the difference.
Kyla Murray made the difference.Kayla Williams makes a
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difference. Be nice to see if John Material
can reach that high watermark. Is this the year that Texas A&M
pulls off an upset that I believe Aggies fans would love
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more than Ohio State beaten Michigan?
More than Oklahoma beaten Texas.What's up again folks, it's RJ
Young. I am not on a step mill.
If this is your first time watching adapt and respond.
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Thank you for joining us here. We talk college football year
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Like this video and answer the question in the comments below.
Do you believe Texas Ampersand can beat Texas flagship proper?
I think it's a interesting question to ask at this time of
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year as we got SEC Media Days coming up just around the corner
on Monday. Yours truly is going to be
monitoring, covering as you willeach one of these.
I think SEC does a great job with his media days, making it a
four day event and really squeezing every bit of preseason
energy that it can out what whathas been the most dominant
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college Football League the last20 years.
But they're also up against it because they are facing the
prospect of 1/3 consecutive yearwithout a national championship
and more importantly, without having played in the national
championship game. This is a conference that could
just count 6 alone. Seven since 2003 from Nick
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Saban, right? LSU and then six at Alabama.
To say nothing of Georgia going back-to-back and being the only
team in the College Football Playoff era to do that.
LSU jumping in there, 2019, One of the best offenses anybody's
ever seen or heard about. Men, Florida, Urban Meyer years.
But after that, it's been reallydifficult to get anybody from
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that middle tier into the upper echelon of national
championships. This is why the Big 12 feels
like it doesn't get a fair shake.
Like one through 16. No league is tighter.
None it's tighter than the big 10.
It's tighter than the ACC. It's tighter than the SECI would
even make the argument that it is tighter than nevermind, I'm
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not going to do that. I'm going to get in trouble.
It ain't worth getting in trouble.
But no jokes anyway, It's tight between them, right?
And I was thinking about this because at the top end of the
Big 10 and the SEC, you know what you're going to get?
You're going to get Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State, maybe
Michigan. You're going to get Alabama,
Georgia now Texas, right, LSU, ish, right, Georgia.
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I think as we are having these discussions, it's important to
note just how these things translate into games, right?
As I've just done the first draft of the 136, the ultimate,
RJ Young's Ultimate 136, and it is 20,000 frigging words.
Once again, even as we got two more teams, it was 20,000 words
last year at 1:34. So take that for what you will.
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But you know, everybody's rankedin accordance with, hey, this is
everything that we know. This is not a power ranking.
So it's not like #3 versus #4 it's more like #3 in
conversation 136. It's more like 77 in
conversation with the 1:36. But I'm sure that you will find
reasons to disagree with me, more reasons to disagree me then
you will find reasons to agree with me as that's what people
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do. See the headline, they don't
click through, they don't listento what we are talking about,
what we have to say. And you know, they go draw their
conclusion, fine, that's not forthem.
So when you look at this headline, you must think is, is
RJ on something? No he is not RJ is admitting
that A&M looks a lot like Oklahoma State and Bedlam.
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Now you look at it historically,Texas beating A&M 77 * A and M
is beating Texas just 37 times. This is going back to the 19th
century that they've been playing this rivalry game.
Now it took some years off because I submit to you Ohio
State and Michigan hate each other.
I submit to you Oklahoma and Texas hate each other.
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But they don't hate each other enough to mess up the money, and
Texas and A&M hate each other enough to mess up the money.
They did not play each other fordamn near 15 years because they
hate each other so much. Even though that game on
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Thanksgiving is one of two, 3, three I was supposed to look
forward to. I always figured out Ohio State,
Michigan, because I got there late.
I'm from Oklahoma. I know A&M fans, I know Texas
fans. They hate each other.
They can't stand each other. You can't get caught in
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Aggieville down there. Some Aggie land, College
Station. Aggieville is in Kansas State,
Manhattan in College Station with a Texas logo anywhere near
you, lest somebody just come outand sock it to you and you'll
draw like just just straight up on general principle.
Do you know where you are? This is Texas Hill Country.
We don't do that Texas noise. Meanwhile, A&M more like that
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feels a lot like, I think Ohio State when they go to Texas and
Texas treats them a lot like Michigan, right?
It's a public school masquerading as private school.
It's just Texas be out and aboutwith now.
We know who we are. We know you want to be like us.
We know you want our money. You can't get there.
And A&M could say, you know what, we might be agricultural
and mechanical engineering, but we can still whoop your ass.
And then Texas is like, oh, for real, kind play us then.
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No, we hate y'all. We're in the SEC, we're in a
better league. Y'all playing a Big 12?
Big 12 ain't nobody, ain't nothing.
Yeah, but we won it. Yeah, because we weren't there.
Y'all were here, and y'all ain'twon nuts since 1998.
Well, we moved and now we playing better competition.
So, you know, it's been a littlebit more difficult to get the
SEC championship game. To which Texas goes.
Oh, really? Watch this.
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Proceeds to put together the kind of season where it was up
to A&M in the first game back inhis rivalry.
If you beat Texas, you can kick them out of the SEC
championship. Looks that way.
Looks that way. A lot of things had to go their
way, but looks that way for the most part.
And Texas decided to just sit ontheir chest.
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Outstanding defense, run the ball, suffocate Tex A&M.
It was 17 zero at half. Arch Manning ran for a
touchdown. Like if you're an A&M fan,
that's not how you drew it up. And you know what?
It makes more sense that you take that loss to Auburn because
that was debilitating. That sucked because now you have
to do this again while watching Texas play in the ICC
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championship game and then make the College Football Playoffs
semi final for a second consecutive year.
And you ain't done neither one of those things.
Never mind that text. ANM got off to a really fast
start. It's that they finished one and
four that Mike Elko is going to have to be dealing with.
Trev Albert's going to have to be dealing with.
But I think that team could win six games this year.
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But if one of them is Texas, everybody on that team is meant
it for for the next 3456 years period.
You finally beat Texas and again, this be the first time
that A&M had beaten Texas since 2010.
But more than that, it would be the first time in the last 6
attempts, excuse me, second timein the last 6 attempts that.
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A&M would have been able to beatTexas, and they've watched Texas
win in O5. They watch Texas have a great
chance to win in O8. They've seen Texas go up and
down, get back there in 2009, then more or less go into the
dumpster for the next 15 years only to come out with Quinn
yours, who I still think is not getting his fair shake, and do
for what he was able to accomplish at Texas.
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Remember this That man won a Big12 championship, got them to
their first College Football Playoff, got them to the SEC
championship game, got them to the College Football Playoff
semi final and beat A&M in his first attempt and beat Alabama
on the road with Nick Saban as head coach by double digit like
their neat. There needs to be more said
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about what Quinn you was able todo put Texas in this position
where they should be playing forthe national championship this
year that it should happen. But I look at A&M and I see
Marcel Reed and I'm going, we know what Marcel Reed is about,
right? That, that just at best point
guard, but throwing for 2:50, not throwing 3 picks, 2 picks
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game, I don't know about that. I don't know that on average,
250 on average, if he's A25150 guy, then A&M is playing in the
playoff that that's it. But if he's not, we got a
problem here. We got a problem here.
Mike Elko's defense can only do so much if you can't score, and
that's up to, you know, the offense.
We'll see what that means, right?
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Because Collin Klein seems to know what he is doing.
And it seems to be the kind of offense that can win games.
But can it be the kind of offense that can beat the upper
echelon of college football? And that is what Texas is.
So if they can get that done, they can beat Arch Manning.
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They can spoil Texas opportunityto get to the SEC Championship
game once again. It'd be great for A&M.
Texas fans be like, I just don'tsee a dog.
And you know what, I hear you, Ihear you.
But it still is interesting to think about.
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Jake Retzloff has withdrawn fromBYU in a move that was kind of
expected, but not in this manner.
Let's talk about what this meansfor BYU, what this means for
Jake Retzlaf and what it means for us.
What's up, kinfolk? It's RJ Young.
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I am not on a step mill. If this is your first time
watching adapt and respond, thank you for joining us here.
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If that is something you're into, go ahead and hit that
subscribe button like this videoand answer the question in the
comments below. What do you think happens next
for Jake Retzlaf and what do youthink BYU is going to do a
quarterback in 2025? It's interesting.
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I got some answers. I'm also going to take this
opportunity to remind you that we have an audio podcast on
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Matter of fact, we're getting tothat point where trying to do
this once a month I sit down in front of a live stream, the
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Super chill people that show up show up.
We talked through it while I fill out your thank you cards
and lick stamp. Send in the mail.
OK, so Jake Ratzlaf announced today he is withdrawing from BYU
and expects to transfer to somewhere else by simply
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enrolling, meaning he is going to forego entering his name into
the transfer portal as a means of facilitating where he's going
to play college football next. That's interesting.
It's interesting for a number ofreasons.
One is you go into the transfer portal, people get access to you
in a very different way, right? Whereas if you are just
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enrolling, you can have impersonal conversations with
anybody that you would like to, or you can just show up wherever
that place might be and decide that you want to go to school in
Notre Dame. If they're going to let you in,
right? You want to go to school at
North Carolina. If you if they want to let you
in, you want to go to school at Ohio State if they want to let
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you in. And I say if they want to let
you in because a, you still do have to apply to college.
There's no longer any open enrollment.
That is the thing of the past. Matter of fact, whenever the old
heads tried to tell us, you know, I paid off my student
loans, you know, lickety split. I'm like, dog, you went open
enrollment where you could literally walk up to them say I
want to go to college at LSU andthey just going to be like cool,
right this give us your $7.00 for the semester, have fun.
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We don't do that anymore. It is a production to get into
college, to get into college. It's a production, let alone get
any sort of financial aid. I mean, they'd be doling it out,
but it ain't the kind of financial aid you'd think they'd
be doling out. It's a drop in the bucket for
many, especially if you go to a private university, not unlike
BYU or Notre Dame or Baylor. And so for so on for most of
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these universities with a tremendous religious background.
And that is what BYU is. What was interesting about Jake
Ratzlaf being at BYU is a peopleforget this.
He was competing with Jerry Bohannon for a job.
OK. Second, he's Jewish and that was
that's news at a place like BYU.They've not had that quarterback
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before. Is often not often that you see
folks that choose to go to BYU who are not members of the
Church of Latter Day Saints. Like, if that's not where you go
to church, usually you don't go to school there because there
are things that vibe with the church that might not vibe with
you, right? This is also how we kind of got
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here with Jake Retzloff in a roundabout way, right?
Roundabout way, meaning why he'swithdrawing from BYU.
But we got here because he was accused sexual assault and that
suit was dismissed. The things he was accused of are
not things that I'm going to repeat here.
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I will say you can go read that if you want to.
And you might think some kind ofway about Jake Retzloff one way
or the other. I think, hey, look, man, you
sign up to go to BYU, there's anhonor code, right?
And knowing that there's an honor code, you know, that they
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don't do the premarital sex thatpeople continue to think in
those terms. Maybe you don't go to school
there. That that that's it, right?
I'm saying like, if you if you don't go, if you don't vibe with
the auto code, then don't don't sign the auto code and don't go
to BYU. But he did.
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He went to BYU sign out of code.And there are rather strict
punishments for violating the honor code.
One of them things was for him looking like A7 game suspension
where he wasn't going to be ableto play for more than half
season. Ain't nothing to do with that
except eat it and or, you know, do what he's doing, which is
going Nah, miss me with that. This is my last year college
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football. I'm not about to sit out more
than half the season to not playcollege football.
OK, cool. Bet he's gone his way and BYU
has gone theirs. And aside from how we got here,
I've been impressed by how both Jake Retzloff and BYU have
comported themselves throughout this Kalani stocking saying all
the right things at Big 12 MediaDays, leading with a love Jake.
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I wish Jake the best. Jake was cool for us.
Jake was good for us. I want him to be the first
person to be able to speak on this and he was.
Same thing is true of the athletic director at BYU and it
feels like the separation will be as amicable as it can be,
which is dependent on your vantage point.
Not at all. It's one of them with all due
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respects, which could be done type situations right?
You're the level of respect is dependent person to person.
It's odd for us as folks that donot have not, I should say, have
not signed that honor code to see this playing out in 2025.
But that's, that's just what it is.
That's what it is. So what are we going to do if we
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are? If we are BYU?
Well, we're going to look to McKay, Hillstead, Trayson,
Bourget and Bairbach Meyer, which ain't exactly Jake
Retzlop. Now, that said, people forget
the strength of BYU was not really Jake Red Slop.
He made he he held things together when it's time to hold
things together. But they ran the ball well.
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LJ Martin 718 yards and I think Chase Roberts at 852.
Maybe Chase Roberts doesn't get the kind of service that he got
last year, but LJ Martin's goingto get more right because you're
going to be breaking a new quarterback.
But the thing for them last yearwas the defense.
They were number one in the league in defense, 19.3 points
per game, scoring 318 yards per game allowed, 29 turnovers
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forced. They were number one in all
those categories in the Big 12. They just didn't get an
opportunity to play for the Big 12 championship because tie
Breakers are weird. I think if the defense continues
to be what the defense was, everything's fine, right?
You'll figure it out with your quarterback.
You'll figure it out. What all three of those
quarterbacks that not a single one of them has thrown for more
than 1400 yards in their entire careers, let alone throwing for
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those yards at BYU. That doesn't bother me so much
as can you make it happen defensively?
If you can make it happen defensively and you can run the
ball with LJ Martin, you're going to be in most games.
And that's what they were last year.
They were in most games and theyend up winning 11.
And Red Slop had a really great game against Colorado, which
made more people believe that this was the year for BYU to
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perhaps make the College Football Playoffs, if not win
the Big 12 championship. Stranger things have happened.
Stranger things will happen, butI just don't see that anymore.
Like this was a team that for me, some finishing the 1:36, I
was thinking about is this a top25 team to know it is not.
It's almost as soon as he is no longer a part of it and running
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the quarterback. So that's how important he was.
He was thing that was keeping them toward the ceiling that I
think they could have. The floor has changed because
he's gone as well, right? And I just not it's not math
that you really have to do that often with a returning starter
at quarterback. Where I give you another
example, CJ Bailey was thrust into playing at NC State last
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year because Grayson McCall wentdown and as freshman season
gone, I thought it was good. 2400 yards, 17 T DS, 10 picks.
He's going to be their first returning starting quarterback
like back-to-back years since 2018.
So the idea of the North Carolina State going six and
seven this year is like they didlast year.
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I don't think that's going to bethe case.
I think they're going to get back to doing their 8-9 win game
thing. As a matter of fact, they've had
three losing seasons, or I should say they have three
seasons where they didn't win atleast seven games, just excuse
me, in the last 15 years. So 1212 out of 15 years, they're
winning seven games or more. I think they're going to do that
because CJ Bailey's back. If CJ Bailey was not back, maybe
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we're having a different discussion about what that looks
like. I hope that makes sense, but
this is how I wanted to talk about this even as.
Is John Mateer enough for Oklahoma to pull off what right
now feels like it would be an upset in the latest edition of
OU Texas? And what conclusions can we
draw? Who wins that game?
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Check us out. All right, so John Metier is the
biggest X Factor, I think of this entire college football
season, but certainly in OU, Texas, as he is coming back home
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of sorts to play in a game that he grew up watching.
He went to Little Elm, play highschool football and went to go
play for Ben Arbuckle at Washington State, Jake Dickert
and put on one hell of a show last year with over three 3800
yards passing and 826 yards on the ground.
Really, really great player thatdidn't get an opportunity to
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showcase that talent a lot on the big stage and didn't play a
lot of big name opponents. Played Texas Tech people going,
yeah, he went 9 or 19 for 1:15 adog.
You missed that part where he rushed from 197 yards because I
didn't or hey, look at what he did.
The Boise State, which is torch him, just absolutely took them
apart. Now, Boise State had this dude
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Ashton Gente that made an entirehighlight tape out of just
rushing against eight in the boxand killing people.
So John Matier's performance waslost in that game as Boise State
did what Boise State had been doing all year, save Oregon.
Then they get to play Penn Statein the College Football Playoff.
And that goes about the way you would think it would go when you
see Boise State matched up against Penn State or Boyd State
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patched up against Oregon. OK, so Matier continues to play
really well through for 390 against San Jose State.
Great game and becomes one of the hottest, if not the hottest
offensive commodity in the portal.
And Brent Venables had to do something.
He had to fire the offensive coordinator in October.
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Seth Latrell, He had benched thestarting quarterback who gained
his spot. Beat Alabama, Still going to go
into the portal. Now come out at Auburn.
Jackson Arnold expects to be thestarter down there.
Michael Hawkins, probably not good enough to get you past the
team like Texas, let alone play for the kind of championships
that Oklahoma wants to play for.So what do you do?
You go get the offensive coordinator who is not 30 yet,
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and you're betting on a guy who seems to know exactly what to do
with his scheme. And you're telling him, do you
think you can bring the quarterback with you?
And we're going to try to pair you up Because that has worked
in the past. Like Utah's going this route
with Jason Beck and Devin Dampier, who put up like 484
yards offense last year togetherat New Mexico.
You see this work in a more often than not, right?
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Like, I'm thinking about LincolnRiley and what he'd been able to
do with transfer quarterbacks. He'd bring in Kyler Murray.
It worked. Baker Mayfield, it worked well.
Baker goes to Bob, but you get my point there.
Jalen Hurts, it worked, right? The last homegrown dude he had
that turned out to be good. Caleb Williams won the Heisman
Trophy, right? But did that at SC and that
partnership was a big deal. I always got this thing about
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offensive coordinators and quarterbacks and how they're
paired together and seem to be symbiotic.
They got a really good brotherlyrelationship that you can rely
on to see things. I think about this as a as a
writer and host. When I talk to editor and
producer, when I'm at my best, Iam In Sync with my editor and or
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my producer. It's less like I'm getting a
play call and it's more like, hey, see it, do it.
You know, you know what you're looking at, you know the
coverage, you know what we can do, You know how to get us in
and get us out. Trust your abilities, right?
I love that. I absolutely love that.
And there's a time in my life when I'm sure I'm going to be
the offensive coordinator, not the quarterback.
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So I'm always paying attention to these things, right?
How do you coach them up in thisway?
How do you not get in their way?How do you say no, run it?
Or what Kenny Dillingham used tosay to his quarterbacks, the
offense coordinators. Your job is to make me right.
If I send you a play call that is wrong, get us the hell out of
it and get us into something that works, that's your job.
I'm going to give you my best. My best might suck once or twice
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again, but if you catch it and you see it, do something about
it every now and again, you might do that and it might go
wrongly for you. But we're not going to go at
each other's throats about this.We're going to go.
What'd you see? OK, I see that now.
We know that that's a disguise now.
We know that they're going to rotate from quarters into, let's
call it Cover 3, right where thewindows and football as it is
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drawn out. It's not really complicated
game, It's just complicated to execute at a high level every
single time. Like I put it another way, when
I talk about Formula One, I can throw down a lap time on a clear
track. I can be as fast as Max
Verstappen on F12526, right? Turning, turning corners, making
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this thing happen, and probably put a faster time on pole.
But two things 1, I had the benefit of being able to crash
the car to figure out just wheremy limits are, where the limits
of the track are. And two, I can do it one time.
I can't do it 52 times in a row at Silverstone.
I might be able to get 10 or 12 really, really snappy laps that
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are within 100th of a second of themselves.
But that's when your focus and your ability starts to wane and
stretch because lap in, lap out,that's a long time to be on,
right? That is what we're talking
about. We're talking about can you make
a play against what you know is there each and every time you
step on the field? You know they're coming out with
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11 men. You know that four or five of
them are going to be defensive back, maybe 6, but they're going
to give that away with a dime defense.
Like it's simple pre snap reads,it's simple pro snap reads.
It's how quickly can you decipher what it is that they
are willing to give you and thenget that the football to that
point or to that player. John Metier does a lot of this
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post snap. I in a many respects.
He reminds me of Jalen Daniels where if you roll him out,
probably going to make a play because you roll him out, he
gets to read high, low and he's probably going to go high before
he goes low, right? I'm saying like his quarterback,
I want to go route. Matter of fact, I was at A7 on 7
just taking in, you know, doing the National College football
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handle, this Fox Sports thing where you go around, you shake
hands, you get to know people. And I saw it's one of my
favorite stories to tell, man. It's quarterback running dagger
concept to the field and offensecoordinator saw him throw the go
route. For those of you don't know,
dagger concept is we have a go route in the slot and we have a
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deep end or, or dig or even a post, right that we're going to
cross up because the the point here is to take the safety with
clear out, right. So you get that one one-on-one
or maybe even get a bit of a cushion there where you can just
slide it in. But I had a quarterback that
knew he could throw the ball 60 yards, and he knew that his wide
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receiver was going to outrun thesafety.
That's what he did. And they called it again, and he
did it again. And coordinator says, son, we're
running dagger. And he says, yeah, coach, but I
can make that play. Sit down.
You know, for me as a coordinator, I don't go sit
down. I go, all right, cool.
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It worked on in the next play. So I gave him something to work
either way, right? You had you had a winner, you
had a winner with the go, you had a winner with the dig, you
had a winner with the with the end.
And by the way, in some offenses, the wide receiver gets
to make that side adjustment andthen you know, the quarterback
hopes they see the same thing, right?
Depending on where you're lined up and where the defense back is
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aligned and how deep or how softthe safeties play on you, all
these things matter. All I'm saying is John Material
doesn't necessarily need to be the best player, excuse me, the
best quarterback on the field. He needs to be the best player
on the field. Now history.
There have been two. Let me put it another way.
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Britt Venables has coached 3 OU Texas games as head coach.
In two of them, they have scoreda total of three points.
That ain't that ain't that. Ain't gonna get it done.
Like we'll throw out the 49 and 0 game.
I know Texas fans won't, but I will because played the game
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without a quarterback and they played the game with queen of
yours. OK, Dylan Gabriel comes back.
Feel real good about ourselves. And then Dylan Gabriel's gone.
Feel real bad about ourselves. It goes how you think it might
go in both of those instances, but we're thinking that John
Matier is more of the Dylan Gabriel variety.
Now that said, that Texas team still damn near beat Oklahoma.
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I should say. Oklahoma had to claw back with
one hell of us drive to finish the game to go get 6 and win it,
and it was really, really great and outstanding to watch.
But Texas had the better team that day.
Oklahoma got the better plays. This year, it feels like Texas
will have a better team. We'll see if Oklahoma can make
the better plays. John Mateer has a big role to
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play in that. Now also, Texas, be the first.
People tell you we own the rivalry of Oklahoma.
We are on the rivalry with A&M. What do we got to be afraid of
losing? You take a loss to an Oklahoma
team that say they loses to Michigan, you know that ain't
going to be good for your resume.
Now forget not good for your resume.
You might not make the SEC championship game if you're
taking losses to an Oklahoma team that takes loss to
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Michigan. This is a year for which Arch
Manning and them are supposed tobe playing for the national
championship and at the very least, get back to the SEC
championship game and perhaps win the damn thing this time.
We'll see. They got to go to Sanford this
year, which I just mean, I'm going to say Georgia wins that
game until I see Texas can do itbecause I watched Georgia play
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Texas at Texas, play Texas in the SEC championship game and
win both. All right, it's different over
there. It just is.
Like put another way, I love thestat and I keep repeating it.
Georgia's had just one 1000 yardreceiver in its entire school
history. 1 and it ain't who you think it is.
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It's Terrence Edwards 2002. He had 1004 yards.
That is the most receiving yardsby any player.
Tight end, half back wide receiver at Georgia in one year
means they went back-to-back 2122 without a 1000 yard
receiver and they played 15 games.
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Texas can't do that. Texas is going to have to have
somebody that can make plays on the perimeter because they don't
have the kind of defense that Georgia seems to put in year and
year out where I can just sit onyou.
And when they got that kind of defense, they don't take losses
to Ole Miss, They don't take losses to Bama, OK, they don't
get bounced by Notre Dame. When they got that kind of
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defense, it's the Philadelphia Eagles going, hey, we'll take
all of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll just
take all of them. 2122, Yeah, yeah.
All those Georgia Bulldogs, we would like them all because
that's what Kirby Smart's able to get over there.
So can John Material make the difference?
Yes, because Dylan Gabriel made the difference.
Kyla Murray made the difference.Kayla Williams makes a
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difference. Be nice to see if John Material
can reach that high watermark. Is this the year that Texas A&M
pulls off an upset that I believe Aggies fans would love
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more than Ohio State beaten Michigan?
More than Oklahoma beaten Texas.What's up again folks, it's RJ
Young. I am not on a step mill.
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Do you believe Texas Ampersand can beat Texas flagship proper?
I think it's a interesting question to ask at this time of
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year as we got SEC Media Days coming up just around the corner
on Monday. Yours truly is going to be
monitoring, covering as you willeach one of these.
I think SEC does a great job with his media days, making it a
four day event and really squeezing every bit of preseason
energy that it can out what whathas been the most dominant
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college Football League the last20 years.
But they're also up against it because they are facing the
prospect of 1/3 consecutive yearwithout a national championship
and more importantly, without having played in the national
championship game. This is a conference that could
just count 6 alone. Seven since 2003 from Nick
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Saban, right? LSU and then six at Alabama.
To say nothing of Georgia going back-to-back and being the only
team in the College Football Playoff era to do that.
LSU jumping in there, 2019, One of the best offenses anybody's
ever seen or heard about. Men, Florida, Urban Meyer years.
But after that, it's been reallydifficult to get anybody from
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that middle tier into the upper echelon of national
championships. This is why the Big 12 feels
like it doesn't get a fair shake.
Like one through 16. No league is tighter.
None it's tighter than the big 10.
It's tighter than the ACC. It's tighter than the SECI would
even make the argument that it is tighter than nevermind, I'm
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not going to do that. I'm going to get in trouble.
It ain't worth getting in trouble.
But no jokes anyway, It's tight between them, right?
And I was thinking about this because at the top end of the
Big 10 and the SEC, you know what you're going to get?
You're going to get Ohio State, Oregon, Penn State, maybe
Michigan. You're going to get Alabama,
Georgia now Texas, right, LSU, ish, right, Georgia.
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I think as we are having these discussions, it's important to
note just how these things translate into games, right?
As I've just done the first draft of the 136, the ultimate,
RJ Young's Ultimate 136, and it is 20,000 frigging words.
Once again, even as we got two more teams, it was 20,000 words
last year at 1:34. So take that for what you will.
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But you know, everybody's rankedin accordance with, hey, this is
everything that we know. This is not a power ranking.
So it's not like #3 versus #4 it's more like #3 in
conversation 136. It's more like 77 in
conversation with the 1:36. But I'm sure that you will find
reasons to disagree with me, more reasons to disagree me then
you will find reasons to agree with me as that's what people
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do. See the headline, they don't
click through, they don't listento what we are talking about,
what we have to say. And you know, they go draw their
conclusion, fine, that's not forthem.
So when you look at this headline, you must think is, is
RJ on something? No he is not RJ is admitting
that A&M looks a lot like Oklahoma State and Bedlam.
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Now you look at it historically,Texas beating A&M 77 * A and M
is beating Texas just 37 times. This is going back to the 19th
century that they've been playing this rivalry game.
Now it took some years off because I submit to you Ohio
State and Michigan hate each other.
I submit to you Oklahoma and Texas hate each other.
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But they don't hate each other enough to mess up the money, and
Texas and A&M hate each other enough to mess up the money.
They did not play each other fordamn near 15 years because they
hate each other so much. Even though that game on
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Thanksgiving is one of two, 3, three I was supposed to look
forward to. I always figured out Ohio State,
Michigan, because I got there late.
I'm from Oklahoma. I know A&M fans, I know Texas
fans. They hate each other.
They can't stand each other. You can't get caught in
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Aggieville down there. Some Aggie land, College
Station. Aggieville is in Kansas State,
Manhattan in College Station with a Texas logo anywhere near
you, lest somebody just come outand sock it to you and you'll
draw like just just straight up on general principle.
Do you know where you are? This is Texas Hill Country.
We don't do that Texas noise. Meanwhile, A&M more like that
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feels a lot like, I think Ohio State when they go to Texas and
Texas treats them a lot like Michigan, right?
It's a public school masquerading as private school.
It's just Texas be out and aboutwith now.
We know who we are. We know you want to be like us.
We know you want our money. You can't get there.
And A&M could say, you know what, we might be agricultural
and mechanical engineering, but we can still whoop your ass.
And then Texas is like, oh, for real, kind play us then.
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No, we hate y'all. We're in the SEC, we're in a
better league. Y'all playing a Big 12?
Big 12 ain't nobody, ain't nothing.
Yeah, but we won it. Yeah, because we weren't there.
Y'all were here, and y'all ain'twon nuts since 1998.
Well, we moved and now we playing better competition.
So, you know, it's been a littlebit more difficult to get the
SEC championship game. To which Texas goes.
Oh, really? Watch this.
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Proceeds to put together the kind of season where it was up
to A&M in the first game back inhis rivalry.
If you beat Texas, you can kick them out of the SEC
championship. Looks that way.
Looks that way. A lot of things had to go their
way, but looks that way for the most part.
And Texas decided to just sit ontheir chest.
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Outstanding defense, run the ball, suffocate Tex A&M.
It was 17 zero at half. Arch Manning ran for a
touchdown. Like if you're an A&M fan,
that's not how you drew it up. And you know what?
It makes more sense that you take that loss to Auburn because
that was debilitating. That sucked because now you have
to do this again while watching Texas play in the ICC
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championship game and then make the College Football Playoffs
semi final for a second consecutive year.
And you ain't done neither one of those things.
Never mind that text. ANM got off to a really fast
start. It's that they finished one and
four that Mike Elko is going to have to be dealing with.
Trev Albert's going to have to be dealing with.
But I think that team could win six games this year.
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But if one of them is Texas, everybody on that team is meant
it for for the next 3456 years period.
You finally beat Texas and again, this be the first time
that A&M had beaten Texas since 2010.
But more than that, it would be the first time in the last 6
attempts, excuse me, second timein the last 6 attempts that.
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A&M would have been able to beatTexas, and they've watched Texas
win in O5. They watch Texas have a great
chance to win in O8. They've seen Texas go up and
down, get back there in 2009, then more or less go into the
dumpster for the next 15 years only to come out with Quinn
yours, who I still think is not getting his fair shake, and do
for what he was able to accomplish at Texas.
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Remember this That man won a Big12 championship, got them to
their first College Football Playoff, got them to the SEC
championship game, got them to the College Football Playoff
semi final and beat A&M in his first attempt and beat Alabama
on the road with Nick Saban as head coach by double digit like
their neat. There needs to be more said
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about what Quinn you was able todo put Texas in this position
where they should be playing forthe national championship this
year that it should happen. But I look at A&M and I see
Marcel Reed and I'm going, we know what Marcel Reed is about,
right? That, that just at best point
guard, but throwing for 2:50, not throwing 3 picks, 2 picks
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game, I don't know about that. I don't know that on average,
250 on average, if he's A25150 guy, then A&M is playing in the
playoff that that's it. But if he's not, we got a
problem here. We got a problem here.
Mike Elko's defense can only do so much if you can't score, and
that's up to, you know, the offense.
We'll see what that means, right?
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Because Collin Klein seems to know what he is doing.
And it seems to be the kind of offense that can win games.
But can it be the kind of offense that can beat the upper
echelon of college football? And that is what Texas is.
So if they can get that done, they can beat Arch Manning.
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They can spoil Texas opportunityto get to the SEC Championship
game once again. It'd be great for A&M.
Texas fans be like, I just don'tsee a dog.
And you know what, I hear you, Ihear you.
But it still is interesting to think about.
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Jake Retzloff has withdrawn fromBYU in a move that was kind of
expected, but not in this manner.
Let's talk about what this meansfor BYU, what this means for
Jake Retzlaf and what it means for us.
What's up, kinfolk? It's RJ Young.
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comments below. What do you think happens next
for Jake Retzlaf and what do youthink BYU is going to do a
quarterback in 2025? It's interesting.
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I got some answers. I'm also going to take this
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Matter of fact, we're getting tothat point where trying to do
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We talked through it while I fill out your thank you cards
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OK, so Jake Ratzlaf announced today he is withdrawing from BYU
and expects to transfer to somewhere else by simply
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enrolling, meaning he is going to forego entering his name into
the transfer portal as a means of facilitating where he's going
to play college football next. That's interesting.
It's interesting for a number ofreasons.
One is you go into the transfer portal, people get access to you
in a very different way, right? Whereas if you are just
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enrolling, you can have impersonal conversations with
anybody that you would like to, or you can just show up wherever
that place might be and decide that you want to go to school in
Notre Dame. If they're going to let you in,
right? You want to go to school at
North Carolina. If you if they want to let you
in, you want to go to school at Ohio State if they want to let
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you in. And I say if they want to let
you in because a, you still do have to apply to college.
There's no longer any open enrollment.
That is the thing of the past. Matter of fact, whenever the old
heads tried to tell us, you know, I paid off my student
loans, you know, lickety split. I'm like, dog, you went open
enrollment where you could literally walk up to them say I
want to go to college at LSU andthey just going to be like cool,
right this give us your $7.00 for the semester, have fun.
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We don't do that anymore. It is a production to get into
college, to get into college. It's a production, let alone get
any sort of financial aid. I mean, they'd be doling it out,
but it ain't the kind of financial aid you'd think they'd
be doling out. It's a drop in the bucket for
many, especially if you go to a private university, not unlike
BYU or Notre Dame or Baylor. And so for so on for most of
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these universities with a tremendous religious background.
And that is what BYU is. What was interesting about Jake
Ratzlaf being at BYU is a peopleforget this.
He was competing with Jerry Bohannon for a job.
OK. Second, he's Jewish and that was
that's news at a place like BYU.They've not had that quarterback
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before. Is often not often that you see
folks that choose to go to BYU who are not members of the
Church of Latter Day Saints. Like, if that's not where you go
to church, usually you don't go to school there because there
are things that vibe with the church that might not vibe with
you, right? This is also how we kind of got
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here with Jake Retzloff in a roundabout way, right?
Roundabout way, meaning why he'swithdrawing from BYU.
But we got here because he was accused sexual assault and that
suit was dismissed. The things he was accused of are
not things that I'm going to repeat here.
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I will say you can go read that if you want to.
And you might think some kind ofway about Jake Retzloff one way
or the other. I think, hey, look, man, you
sign up to go to BYU, there's anhonor code, right?
And knowing that there's an honor code, you know, that they
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don't do the premarital sex thatpeople continue to think in
those terms. Maybe you don't go to school
there. That that that's it, right?
I'm saying like, if you if you don't go, if you don't vibe with
the auto code, then don't don't sign the auto code and don't go
to BYU. But he did.
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He went to BYU sign out of code.And there are rather strict
punishments for violating the honor code.
One of them things was for him looking like A7 game suspension
where he wasn't going to be ableto play for more than half
season. Ain't nothing to do with that
except eat it and or, you know, do what he's doing, which is
going Nah, miss me with that. This is my last year college
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football. I'm not about to sit out more
than half the season to not playcollege football.
OK, cool. Bet he's gone his way and BYU
has gone theirs. And aside from how we got here,
I've been impressed by how both Jake Retzloff and BYU have
comported themselves throughout this Kalani stocking saying all
the right things at Big 12 MediaDays, leading with a love Jake.
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I wish Jake the best. Jake was cool for us.
Jake was good for us. I want him to be the first
person to be able to speak on this and he was.
Same thing is true of the athletic director at BYU and it
feels like the separation will be as amicable as it can be,
which is dependent on your vantage point.
Not at all. It's one of them with all due
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respects, which could be done type situations right?
You're the level of respect is dependent person to person.
It's odd for us as folks that donot have not, I should say, have
not signed that honor code to see this playing out in 2025.
But that's, that's just what it is.
That's what it is. So what are we going to do if we
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are? If we are BYU?
Well, we're going to look to McKay, Hillstead, Trayson,
Bourget and Bairbach Meyer, which ain't exactly Jake
Retzlop. Now, that said, people forget
the strength of BYU was not really Jake Red Slop.
He made he he held things together when it's time to hold
things together. But they ran the ball well.
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LJ Martin 718 yards and I think Chase Roberts at 852.
Maybe Chase Roberts doesn't get the kind of service that he got
last year, but LJ Martin's goingto get more right because you're
going to be breaking a new quarterback.
But the thing for them last yearwas the defense.
They were number one in the league in defense, 19.3 points
per game, scoring 318 yards per game allowed, 29 turnovers
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forced. They were number one in all
those categories in the Big 12. They just didn't get an
opportunity to play for the Big 12 championship because tie
Breakers are weird. I think if the defense continues
to be what the defense was, everything's fine, right?
You'll figure it out with your quarterback.
You'll figure it out. What all three of those
quarterbacks that not a single one of them has thrown for more
than 1400 yards in their entire careers, let alone throwing for
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those yards at BYU. That doesn't bother me so much
as can you make it happen defensively?
If you can make it happen defensively and you can run the
ball with LJ Martin, you're going to be in most games.
And that's what they were last year.
They were in most games and theyend up winning 11.
And Red Slop had a really great game against Colorado, which
made more people believe that this was the year for BYU to
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perhaps make the College Football Playoffs, if not win
the Big 12 championship. Stranger things have happened.
Stranger things will happen, butI just don't see that anymore.
Like this was a team that for me, some finishing the 1:36, I
was thinking about is this a top25 team to know it is not.
It's almost as soon as he is no longer a part of it and running
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the quarterback. So that's how important he was.
He was thing that was keeping them toward the ceiling that I
think they could have. The floor has changed because
he's gone as well, right? And I just not it's not math
that you really have to do that often with a returning starter
at quarterback. Where I give you another
example, CJ Bailey was thrust into playing at NC State last
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year because Grayson McCall wentdown and as freshman season
gone, I thought it was good. 2400 yards, 17 T DS, 10 picks.
He's going to be their first returning starting quarterback
like back-to-back years since 2018.
So the idea of the North Carolina State going six and
seven this year is like they didlast year.
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I don't think that's going to bethe case.
I think they're going to get back to doing their 8-9 win game
thing. As a matter of fact, they've had
three losing seasons, or I should say they have three
seasons where they didn't win atleast seven games, just excuse
me, in the last 15 years. So 1212 out of 15 years, they're
winning seven games or more. I think they're going to do that
because CJ Bailey's back. If CJ Bailey was not back, maybe
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we're having a different discussion about what that looks
like. I hope that makes sense, but
this is how I wanted to talk about this even as.
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