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July 24, 2025 • 31 mins

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Ohio State and Michigan have scores to settle on multiple fronts, but the one that matters the most is who runs the Big Ten among them. The Michigan Wolverines have beaten Ohio State each of the last four years and won three of the last four Big Ten Championships, but Ohio State's hold on the Big Ten has been reasserted with a national title and a thirst for vengeance.


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Music, what's up good folk, it'sRJ Young.
I am not on a step mill. If this your first time watching
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We talk college football year round.
If that is something you're into, go ahead and hit that
subscribe button like this videoand answer the question in the
comments below. Who really runs the Big 10, Ohio
State or Michigan? Do we expect Jayden Maiava to be

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another great transfer quarterback for Lincoln Riley?
Is he's been pretty good about this, and US CS been pretty good
about quarterbacks. Texas is surging.
And Derek Cooper is absolutely the truth.
But I want to start with this. I want to start with this
question of, yeah, man, who runsthe Big 10?
Is it Ohio State? Is it Michigan?

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I also want to really unpack just what this means, right?
So a columnar right at Fox Sports gets to this idea as
we're ending the Big 10 Media Days week.
I asked this question in earnestand I asked this question to a
lot of different people as to, you know, which program do you
think runs a Big 10? It needs to be Ohio State or

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Michigan because those are two defending national champs
2023-2024. And we expect Ohio State to be
one of those teams alongside Oregon, Penn State to compete
for the national championship inabout, you know, five months
time. OK, So what goes into this,
right, goes into this is obviously what you're doing on

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the field. And if you're Michigan, you get
to say with a very clean smile, we own Ohio State.
We have beaten them four times in a row.
And yeah, they won the national championship last year.
But show me the Big 10 championship and then again,
show the last win they have against us, which came before
the plague year 2019. It's the last time that we

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talked about Ohio State beating Michigan.
It's also the last time that we talked about Michigan being
really, really bad past 2020, right?
They canceled the game. It's a big deal.
I think if they played that game, we're not living in Earth
616 anymore. We're living in Earth 838.
I think we're living in a world where Jim Harbaugh is not head
coach in Michigan in 2021. I think it was there.

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If they'd have gotten destroyed the way that it looked like they
were going to get destroyed in 2020 with all the jabbering and
the name calling and a talk and the late start to the season and
just how good Ohio State looked as they got started and were
able to get to the national championship game.
Justin Fields, it could have been 70 to nothing.
It could have been horrible for them, but they didn't play the
game. They restructure his contract.

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He comes back in 2021 and Fieldsa College Football Playoff team
that not only beats Ohio State, wins the Big 10 Championship, OK
to do it again in 2022 and then in 2023, famously, they run the
table 15 and O with Jim Harbaughcoaching just 9 games on the
sideline, right? We see the anointing of Sharon
Moore as the heir apparent to Jim Harbaugh, as he is the guy

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on the sideline because Jim Harbaugh was not allowed to be
there when they beat Ohio State in 2023 in a game that we
thought Ohio State had a great chance to win.
It turns out losing that game ofKyle McCord changes everything.
He ends up at Syracuse, right? They win that game.
I think he's still the quarterback at Ohio State.
Will Howard doesn't come in. Probably don't spend $20 million
on your roster to go win the 2024 national championship

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because you needed to go for broke this year if you're Ryan
Day, if you're the program. On the other hand, here, there
is the way in which I think mostof the world feels about Ohio
State versus Michigan right now.Michigan is embroiled in
controversy. Matt Weiss, federally indicted,
right? And we've done that segment and
go check out what that Co offensive coordinator was doing
and why the feds are involved. We have no end insight to the

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sign stealing scandal. And I call it sign stealing
scandal because that's what it is, right?
You want to talk about advanced scouting or you want to use all
of your legalese to try to tell me what it's not.
You cheated, you got caught. We'll see what kind of
punishment you face, if any at all.
We know the Big 10 suspended JimHarbaugh.
We know that Connor Stallions nolonger works at the University
of Michigan. They don't care that, and that's

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really what it's about. It's about Michigan admitting
that it's wrong to do what it did and they haven't and I don't
think they will, right? That's what they're get down has
been. I think in a sense of fairness,
many people outside of Michigan Wolverine fandom believe that
what Michigan did was not OK andbelow board.
Notably, most of the Big 10 members that wanted to see Tony

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Petiti do something to curtail this during the season in 2023.
Again, it didn't matter. They ran the table.
They won the national championship.
Still leaves a bad taste in everybody else's mouth about it.
Meanwhile, Ohio State continues to be not unlike the proletariat
and not unlike the rest of us working class folks coming out.
The rest, well that live and diewith their scarlet and Gray.

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Their football program is who they are.
It is their family. As a dude that grows up in
Oklahoma who knows that the Sooners run the state, there is
an empathy that I understand there.
It is a public school masquerading as a very public
school. LSU is kind of the same way.
In this way, Michigan is a public school masquerading as a
private school. I say it's about the University

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of Texas. If you wear a white collar to
work, you went to Texas, you went to Ole Miss, you probably
went to Michigan. Trying to think who else might
actually Syracuse. There's a certain get down to
some how some public schools have been able to go about doing
their, their businesses, flagships and Ohio State's get

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down. It's much more like, no, we'll
get in mud with you. We'll get in the dirt with you.
We will not mince words with you.
I often say this, a lot of things you can say about Ohio
State. One of the things you will not
be able to say is that they're soft.
They're not going to let that stand.
They're also going to try to beat you up and down because
they don't want to hear your mouth.
Whenever somebody wants to accuse you of cheating, Whenever
somebody wants to accuse you of cheating, that is also taken

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away from the good work that youdo.
Now, that's off the field. We also need to take into
account there are only four founding members of the Big 10,
right? Three of them are still active.
Chicago's the one that's not Illinois, Michigan and Ohio
State, right, somewhere some, well, Ohio State, Michigan left
Illinois behind in the 19th after the 19th century.
But if you're talking about one of the great rivalries of all

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time in any sport ever, you're talking about Ohio State,
Michigan. It's one of the other reasons
why they're at the top of this list.
Revenue is also important here. They bring in a lot.
And if you're talking about who gets to sway what the
conversation's going to be like in the Big 10, you're talking
about Ohio State at a time when Nebraska was talking about
leaving the Big 10 after they just got there.

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Another program is talking aboutgoing independent because they
want to play football during theCOVID times.
Gene Smith would tell anybody, listen, no, we are Big 10
members. We, this is our conference.
This is where we are going to be.
And they're so good along with Michigan that you've seen
USEUCLA, Washington, Oregon joinup, right?
The Big 10 has gotten bigger, it's gotten stronger.
It competes with the SEC. So now we're talking about the

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pre eminent pre eminent program in one of the pre eminent
conferences. And then on the football field,
they continue to recruit the hell out of the rest of the
country, right? Ryan Day's 2026 class is really
great. They got one real bona fide gym
in five star Chris Henry at widereceiver, which makes a lot of
sense because that's what they've been doing here late.
They've been able to turn out wide receiver after wide

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receiver after wide receiver andafter the season that Jeremiah
Smith enjoyed as a true freshman, you can expect a guy
like Quint Chris Henry to want to play at Ohio State.
Let's also remember that his daddy played at West Virginia
and the Cincinnati Bengals. So you got the bloodlines going
for you as the dude is every bitof 6 foot 6 and looks like an
absolute killer if he can get tothat space.

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On the other hand, you got a Michigan team that's bringing in
#1 recruit in the 2025 class in Bryce Underwood who expects to
be their starter going into Week1.
And more importantly, against myOklahoma Sooners, I think if
this dude who was once supposed to be going to LSU and probably
could have done what Jayden Daniels did at LSU is as good as

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we think he's going to be. Michigan's going to have more to
say about who actually runs the Big 10 come the game.
Because that game's in Ann Arborthis year.
And it turns out the last few years, the last two out of four
that we thought Ohio State was going to win that game.
The game's in Columbus and Michigan goes down there and
gives them the, what, 4 1/2? Now, if the game is icy and the
game is cold, you probably will not see as much throwing the

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ball around with a Julian Sam. You'll want to run the football.
Ohio State will run the football.
Michigan has been better at running the football.
Michigan has been better at run defense.
More importantly, I think winning that game would allow
Ohio State to claim we run the Big 10 because you win that
game, we think you're going to play in the Big 10 championship.
We think if you get to the Big 10 championship, you have an

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opportunity to play. Now.
Last year we didn't have the divisions right, so you got to
see Oregon, Penn State there. But Ohio State and Michigan had
been disqualified, lost to Oregon, if you're Ohio State,
right, I would love nothing morethan to see a rematch of that
game. But I just don't see it
happening because it's going to be on the schedule every single

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year, right? Ohio State, Michigan getting to
the Big 10 championship would begreat.
Now we got an opportunity for Ohio State, Michigan to get in
the College Football Playoff. And in a perfect world, you get
to the game, Ohio State gets oneback, you get to the Big 10
championship. And then we get to see, right?
We get to see Ohio State can winthat game.
But say Michigan makes the playoff and ran the table.
What would we say then? It's an ongoing conversation.
It's one of my favorite rivalries in all the sports

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because the folks that root for Michigan absolutely 100% root
for Michigan and root against you, right?
Folks that root for Ohio State, they 100% root for Ohio State
and root against Michigan. There's no in fans or blacks.
There are more people that show up to tell me all from Michigan
than Ohio State. There are more people that show
up to tell me how cool they think it is that I'm an OU fan

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as their Ohio State fans. Everybody else thinks I'm an
Ohio State fan because they say nice things about them in a way
that they can get down with. Think about Michigan that I
enjoy, though, and I'll and I'vesaid this and I don't know how
many people hear it. Those players do not care what
anybody has to say. Like Steve Sarkeesian likes to
say, it doesn't care what anybody else outside this
building thinks about us. It cares what happens.

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It matters what happens in this building.
Michigan has lived that under Jim Harbaugh and Sharon Moore
and I wish you could bottle thatand give that to everybody
because that's how families work.
And growing up, my mother would tell us, my sister and I, and I
should preface this by saying myparents are ex military.
My mother was captain in the AirForce, my father's drill

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Sargent. I got it both ways, right?
My mother would say, I don't care if RJ committed an act of
robbery. Denise, you side with him and
then when you come home, we willsort this out.
But outside you are united. You are one unit, OK?
There is no you. There is no her, there's or him.

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There's only us. And that is how good teams
operate. What goes on inside our building
is what goes on inside our building.
Outside our building. You can not separate us.
And because you can't separate us, it doesn't matter that we
they have more talented footballplayers.
We will beat them because we're better at being together than
they are now. I think most football teams like

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to believe they're very close, but that closest doesn't always
show up in wins and losses. At Michigan.
It absolutely does. And that for that, I want to
commend them and also say that'sreally freaking cool.
We come back. We want to talk a little about
about Lincoln Riley and Notre Dame and Jade Maiava and just
what we should be able to expectfrom USC in a year in which we

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think the scene might be gettinga little bit warm for Lincoln
Riley if things don't go well. Music back on adapt and respond

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very cool. OK, so Lincoln Riley had kind of

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intimated throughout 2025 he doesn't know if the Notre Dame
rivalry makes much sense for USCgiven the current space and
format for which we're playing college football.
Lot to lot to talk about there. So USC, Notre Dame has been one
of the rivalries that most of uslook forward to forever, right?
Because it is a glorified, it's a glor.

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It's a well, I should say, let me go out this another way.
USC Notre Dame is a clash of color that has come to be
synonymous with greatness for most of us.
The Golden Domers playing against the USC Trojans has been
marked with such controversy andsuch cool people.
That's really difficult to forget, right?

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I'm thinking about the Bush push, Matt Liner push.
Reggie Bush. It was illegal.
They won the game. I'm thinking about what the
movie Rudy has done for college football.
Even as most people that know much about Rudy Rittiger could
tell you stories that would, youknow, curl your toes.
The movie itself with Sean Astinis amazing, and we all love it.
We know that OJ Simpson went to USC and we know what happened

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when OJ got older. We know that Mike Garrett was a
Heisman winner and a former athletic director who ends up in
Langston. We we know Lane Kiffin was
there. We know Steve Sarkeesian was
there. We know that they have had a
Heisman winner, Carlson, Palmer,Reggie Bush, Matt Liner.
We also know that Notre Dame hasturned out some really great
players that frankly, I don't always think get enough notice,

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but some that get a little too much notice.
Usually the quarterback, Jimmy Clausen comes to mind, probably
shouldn't, but he does. Manti Te'o comes to mind.
Catfish, anybody. However, that game usually is
good. It usually does not disappoint
because Notre Dame is a barnstorming team.
That that game is always on the schedule is nice to know because
you know Notre Dame will play almost anybody.

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They got this agreement with theACC where they play a bunch of
ACC teams, but they also play everybody else, and it's one of
the things that we enjoy about the sport.
So much so that we let them run around as an independent and
treat them like a powerful school.
It's cool. I think in recent years, USC has
been helped by this rivalry because USC hasn't been that
great in the 20 twenties, certainly not since 2019.

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Thinking about Clay Hilton coming through there, thinking
about Drake London coming through there.
And frankly, Lincoln Riley choosing to go to USC at a time
when Oklahoma is humming. Oklahoma's a good football
program. When he leaves, it takes a loss
to Mike Gundy in Oklahoma State,gets on a plane the next day to
go to USC, then talks about turning that place into the
Mecca of college football. As if Norman isn't right there.

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As if Columbus isn't right there, As if Tuscaloosa's like,
hey, you winning championships. You talk about coming here,
right? As if Baton Rouge is going.
I'm sorry. How many national titles has USC
won since Pete Carroll left? OK, cool.
I'm sorry, dude, does the PAC 12any good or is it just y'all
turns out the PAC 12 so good it dissolves and when it dissolves,

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big 10 says y'all y'all want it home and USC says yes, please
can we bring out a little brothers UCLA with us as well.
We're going to watch to say, hey, we want to come too.
All right, our step brothers would like to come as well.
So now you got those over there.Lincoln Riley, though, is going
into a season where he sat the starter Miller Moss, a thing
that he's done more recently of late, but was low to do until

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and basically Spencer Rattler showed up, got he recruited to
Oklahoma. And that has been that's been
that's been the sauce, right. When people talk about Lincoln
Riley and they want to be mean about it, they would say he
can't recruit and develop his own quarterback out of high
school as if that should matter.I don't think it should.
But Austin Kendall was never going to be the guy at Oklahoma

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for that matter. We can keep going down the list,
but Baker was and Kyler was and Jalen was and eventually this
guy named Caleb Williams does show up, a guy he recruits out
of high school and follows from the USC and he turns them into a
Heisman winner at USC. Drawback to that is even with
Heisman winners and number one overall picks, and he's had

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three of them, he has not playedfor a national championship and
a lot of that has been about thedefense and the defense
coordinators that he's hired. They just haven't been that
great. Alex Grinch was not that great.
Mike Stoops was awful. Denton Lynn, We'll see.
It's it's teetering, but it ain't great.
It's good. It ain't great.
Now with Miller Moss, a guy who couldn't beat out Jackson Dart,

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you thought he was the guy because he threw a bunch of
touchdowns against Louisville. You end up sitting him halfway
through the season. You bring in Jade Miaba, who
starts four games for you after transferring in from UNLV.
And he's got a lot of skill set that we're used to seeing with a
Lincoln Riley quarterback. A guy that can play make on the
move, right? Make make it happen with his
legs and if the play breaks down, he will save you with
them. Now that in his side with the

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Notre Dame conversation, I thinkit's just a hat on a hat.
I don't think you need to be having a conversation about the
future of the Notre Dame rivalry, for which he said at
Big 10 Media Days, schools are in radically different
situations with their schedule as a College Football Playoff
pass. That it underscores the need for
a system with more automatic qualifiers while also going.

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I think Jade Maiaba can be one of the better players that we
have and can be really special. I need USC to start winning
football games at a higher rate before we talk about losing one
of the great rivalry games that it happens to play in.
I realized that you want to get into the playoffs, and I
realized that you want an easy path to get in the playoffs, and

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the easiest path for a college football coach would be an
automatic qualifier. But I played football and I love
football. And the thing about football is
it doesn't matter what you thinkyou ought to do.
You got to go show it. You got to go prove it.
You got to go win it. And if you're good, we'll put
you in the playoff. We got 12 spots.
Now we'll have 16, we think. But to say that you want to lose

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1 of the sainted rivalries in the sport so that you can better
get a spot in the playoff, I don't know.
Sounds a little weak. Sounds a little weak.
I don't like weak. Play people play people in your
division, play people in your conference.
Play people on your level. Notre Dame is on your level, at
least historically. Now, they played a national

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title game last year and you have not, right?
That might be getting under yourskin, but looking at a game and
saying that it's difficult is not a reason to lose it.
Texas and Texas A&M, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State, Ohio State
and Michigan know enough, and I mentioned this, that they all
need to play each other. They hate each other so much.

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They have to play each other. I don't know that we get that
hate for USC, Notre Dame, and maybe that's what it's got to
be. Maybe it's got to be an era of
trash talk. Maybe it's got to be an era of
of course they're scared to playus coming from Notre Dame.
And that's what I would lean into if you want to keep the
game on the schedule, All right?If they're scared, they're
scared. Take it up with them.
I can't make them play. Can't make you put on pads,

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can't make you put on a helmet. I can't make you line up and get
smashed to death. But that's not what you want to
do. That's not what you want to do.
Go play Cal Northridge to choosea team that a program that's
going to be a school that doesn't have a football team,
right? Go play Northern Arizona, play
somebody. It doesn't matter.
It's like we got to play Big 10 schools already.
Sure, dawg. Rutgers are being on schedule.

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That's really going to ruin yourday.
I want USC to be good because I think USC being good to be good
for the for the sport, but not at the expense of losing Notre
Dame and USC as a rivalry game and to the end of Jayden Maiava,
I really wanted to be good. I think it can be.
And I think we're betting on Lincoln Riley and a transfer

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quarterback that he thinks can play.
He's earned the benefit of the doubt on this.
But is USC going to make the College Football Playoff in
2025? That's a more interesting
question. And right now we're talking
about Illinois having a better chance of making the College
Football Playoff then USC, whichwould mean one more year of

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Lincoln Riley being at USC and not doing the thing that he did
at Oklahoma and being as far away from creating a Mecca of
college football as Indiana. Excuse me, farther.
Indiana made the College Football Playoff this century.
Have you? No.
Until then, let's let's, let's let's push it back just a little

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bit. Pump the brakes on USC.
Come back. Let's talk a little bit about
Texas and why I think that school is surging at a time when
it could take the most advantageof its recruiting.
And it's doing just that. Music back on adapt and respond

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read them or reply to them. Leave us a five star review if
you're there. So Texas is interesting to me
because Texas is operating once again, like I expect Texas to
operate that has a top five recruiting class is not really
news because we expect and have come to expect Texas will
recruit in the top five. All it has to do is recruit the

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state of Texas. And when it goes out, it usually
gets the number one player, number two player in the state.
And we're not talking about Massachusetts here, we're
talking about Florida, Georgia, California.
It's not about recruiting, it's about evaluation at the
University of Texas. And now going into a 2025, which
feels like their best opportunity to win a national
championship since 2005, the best opportunity to play in a

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national championship game since2009.
I'm curious what the future is looking like for them because,
yeah, they're going to have ArchManning at quarterback.
They're going to play Ohio StateWeek 1.
But if you look around the summer, they'd had one hell of a
great summer. Their quarterback recruit?
Dia Bell, son of Raja Bell, NBA guard, And I love watching Raja

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play with Phoenix Suns, one Elite 11/1, the Elite 11 MVP.
No Texas quarterback recruit hasone Elite 11 MVP, to which
people going well, arch didn't compete.
That means he didn't win. That's how that works.
You don't compete, you don't winnothing risk, nothing gain.
And if you're too, you know, busy or afraid to go compete at

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Elite 11, that's, you know, somebody else is going to get
the moniker being first to do it.
And Dia Bell did also is outstanding as a junior over
2500 yards and 70% of his pass is completed.
And with Steve Sarkeesian growing you up, I think he got a
shot to be a really great quarterback.
Also adding here some top, I think 300 wide receivers

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according to ESPN, Chris Stewartand Jermaine Bishop junior, both
of those guys are explosive. Both of those guys got big plays
in them and speed. They're fluid.
You you're going to be able to bring in great wide receivers to
Texas. Ryan Wingo being a great example
of this. DeAndre Moore has emerged.
They'll get better at that position.
I think you're talking about theoffensive line there.
There's always recruiting. Well, they're always developing

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well. Nicholas Robertson is an example
of this. Defensively, we could talk about
Dylan Berryman. We could talk about Corey Wells.
But the guy that I really want to spend the most time talking
about here, and one of the reasons I think that Texas is
doing the most with its recruiting in the 2026 class is
Derek Cooper. Guys that dude can play.

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So he's coming out of Shaman at Madonna in Florida, Hollywood,
FL, which sounds familiar because there's a guy, you know,
Jeremiah Smith that was from down around the way down there.
But if I'm looking at Derek, I'malso looking at a guy who is 6
foot one, 205 lbs and play both ways last year.

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And I'll make sure I get this right.
Let me let me make sure I get this right.
It's not, it's not the the 9.3 yards per carry average that I
thought was just gaudy on like 105 touches had like 900 yards
rushing. It's that the dude had 46
tackles, 10 tackles for loss, 4 pass breakouts, 4 sacks, 3

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forced fumbles, and excuse me, 3fumble recoveries and two forced
fumbles while paying special teams blocking punts.
OK, I don't know that Texas has had a back that is this big and
this strong and this fast since Deonte Foreman.

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Now, I know CJ Baxter is there and I know CJ Baxter's in line
to have a great season. Bijon Robinson.
I mean, Bijon could just see things.
He he's his vision was next level.
Jonathan Brooks, great tail bag.But I look at Derek Cooper and I
see Eric Dickerson. If you go watch, Oh, Derek

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Dickerson highlight tape, you'llsee an upright running style.
You'll see a man that can run bypeople.
And OK, so like the first few highlight plays you might see of
Derek Cooper on huddle are him running through the line of
scrimmage and breaking tackles. Always a great way to start.
But what gets me is things like throwing a little swing pass to

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him and watching him just blow by linebackers that I swear to
you could reach out and touch him.
They, he's just running by them.They can't put their hands on
him. That is the kind of speed and
size and power that you should be recruiting at the University
of Texas. Play tailback for you.
I look at him and I go, oh, whatif Derek Henry was smaller?

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That sort of stuff. It's Derek.
Henry's not just big, he's fast.It's one thing for you to be
faster than the person next to you, you know, run by them to
the end zone. It's another thing for them to
not be able to put their hands on you as you go by because
you're moving so quickly. That's what they got in Derek
Cooper again #1 tailback in 2025or 2026.

(27:54):
Excuse me according to some, butI keep looking at the
versatility and I keep looking at the the hands and I look at
the speed and his want to hurt people like when he's running
with the football and I say EricDickerson, but you know, he's
not as violent a runner as Adrian Peterson, but he's just
as as mean. Adrian was so violent that, you

(28:18):
know, the Palestine dudes got out of the way.
You know, like there's like, Nah, it's a big decision.
I want to play the next down. I can't play the next down if I
try to tackle that. I don't think that Derek Cooper
is there, but he's damn close. He's running with a fury that
you can see other people are awed by or afraid of.
Either way, you want that to University of Texas, especially

(28:38):
as Steve Sarkeesian is so enthusiastic and so fond of
saying, I have 1000 yard backs. That's what I do.
We run we, you know, we misdirect.
We run RPO. We beat Cover 2 like it stole
something. But what I do, it's produced
1000 yard backs. And that's the guy that is a a

(28:59):
renowned quarterbacks coach, a renowned coordinator.
But you go back to Naji Harris, you look at Jonathan Brooks, you
look at Bijon Robinson, you lookat Travion Wisner, who was third
on the depth chart, still producing 1000 yard back last
year. And now you get CJ Baxter back,
you getting Christian Clark back, Jared Gibson.
We think it's going to be good. He's going to find a way to get
that dude touches. So when he gets to Texas, I

(29:21):
expect him to be competing to play right away.
And you know, running backs, youalways need a million of them
because dudes get hurt carrying the football.
But this dude looks like he can hurt other people carrying the
football. I said Eric Dickerson, I
mentioned Adrian Peterson. I'll throw one more OU tail back
on the just to get under the skin of Texas people.
DeMarco Murray, DeMarco DeMarco Murray.

(29:44):
If you got that kind of hands and you got that kind of speed
and we can line you up in the slot and we can line you up 7
1/2 yards deep and you can rush for 1000 yards because you can
take that kind of punishment, get those kind of carries.
And he obviously can explain both ways.
You'll do damage. Even the SEC, you'll do damage.
I'm excited about what could be in the offing for a guy like

(30:04):
Derek Cooper at a program like Texas when we expect Texas is
only going to get better and if they are able to keep this class
together. And the way to do that is to
keep winning. He shows up, get another year of
Arch Manning, we think, and you get him in the backfield and you
get a grown up Texas team. It could be the beginning of
something special at the University of Texas that is

(30:26):
really coming into blossom rightwhen Derek Cooper arrives.
Not too shabby. All right, that's going to do it
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