706 AITA for not reminding my fiance that stoves are hot? (ft. Aisha & Kari)

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, everybody, Welcome to a I T A pod. I'm
Danny Baga, joined by returning guests. You know them, you
love them, Godi and I Shapse. You guys are cuties,
already enjoying yourself so much.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
I love your love so much, just because, oh my god,
thank you. I am. It comes from trauma classic.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
We're already at traumas, not even yet. If I love
hard enough, away.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Thoughts will come.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
By trauma trauma drama. Well I'm excited. I I haven't
sent you guys the particle yet, but yeah, I'm gonna
have this breakfast party. So I'm committing a little bit
of a crime. I don't know my I know my
friend is gonna roast me for it. But so she

(01:01):
had a little get together at her place and we
made banana chocolate pancakes.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, and banana So I can't even be woa really sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Well they're really fucking good to all the other people
in the whole world. But yeah, actually I like this too.
So she had this like big circular griddle. It was
kind of cool looking, and then she was like, you
can just make pancakes, and like, I have a lot
of cooking trauma in relationships, not like real trauma, just
because like I don't know, I always felt like when
I tried to help in the kitchen, I would be
like harshly rebuked, and so now I'm like afraid of

(01:33):
fucking up in the kitchen. And so she's like, yeah,
just make little like just make you know, making pancakes.
You know, a wild animal could do it. So I
was making the pancakes and I was allowed to eat
them as I went, which was amazing because they are
banana chocolate, so they're ready, they're like ready to go
neat syrup. And she was like, thank you so much.
That was so kind of you because I just sat

(01:55):
there for like forty straight minutes just fucking bang these
and I loved it, and that made me feel really
good about myself.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
That's nice. Good, Yeah you helped.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
I helped, and I felt like I didn't good to help.
It felt good to help. So this, and then I'm
returning the favor by stealing the concept, which is basically
because it's chocolate chip banana pancakes, so you don't need
to add anything. And then she would have me make
them like as like really small, like like golf ball
size or maybe double golf ball, and so that's what
I want to do. I want to have a pancake
party and make tiny pancakes that you just kind of eat,

(02:27):
you know what I mean. You don't have to like
sit and eat them. You can just pop, Yes, you
pop them. So am I the asshole for selling my
friends pancake party concept?

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
No, Yeah, I think you'd be the asshole if you
scheduled one at the same time.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, the exact same guest, and then you're like, make.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Your choice, your choice, choice.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
You have all the information to do with what you will.
That's my mantra, right.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
I feel like it's funny because like having the same
kind of party as someone is like an homage being
like what a great party?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Do that?

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, it's great.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
I would be very pleased if I had a party
and someone did the same sort of thing. Every time
I invite people over, they are so mad at me
because I have no space and they're like, why would
you invite us here? Why shouldn't we meet at a
public park? Like wow, And like everyone said on the floor.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
I have enough space. Yeah, a lot of space.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Maybe some other places people consider it.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, yeah, I have another bench and I'm figuring out.
You guys know how stressed out. I'm out about the
front couches.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Yes, couch though, right, we got.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Good.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
This is a great couch.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
I really appreciate that I regarded that couch. But the
thing is for six hondo. It's been a trooper.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I'm very good.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah, I have a three hundred dollars so this, oh,
you know, I think it's good.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I have a nap on here.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
I have a nap on there all time. Wayfair is
a line, though, I will not. I have sat on
Wayfair furniture before. I've been like Wayfair and they're like Wayfair.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Yeah, Like that's the commercial they don't want to make.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
They don't they live fair.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
That's so funny.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, how much did you pay for that? In foreigner bucks?
That's way Fair.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
It's way Fair.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Maybe that's how they Yeah, not great, it's not that
it's waay fair.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
You paid little because it sucks.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
That's why everyone put in the same amount of time
across the board.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Sure, yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Like they're sure somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Sure, Sure a good furniture for a picture.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Exactly so so. A recent reddit post on the subreddit
said Danny Energy that was the title of the post,
and then it showed Stanley Tucci in a suit, George
Costanza wearing only underwear kind of sprawled out and bow
and Yang.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Oh like that combo is used is Danny energy?

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Yeah, I wanted to see where you guys saw that.
Love the post. By the way, I thinks are.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Posting op you made my day in underwear.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Bon Yang's gay, though, so I was like, this is
calling me gay at like one third gay.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
So I think what the thing is is bon Yang
is hilarious and very opinionated when he speaks.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
That's true. I think that's what that piece is from.
But that's what George is too.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
George, I'm very George. Well, George is Larry David and
I have my ld painting here.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
So and like you obsess over things like the couch
and the you know these things, and like if you
made this person feel I get, I feel like that's
very George.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yes, yes, over analyzing.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, okay, I agree with Aisha.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
I do now that we're breaking it down more because okay,
I didn't I'm not.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
I didn't watch those those TV shows, So I didn't
watch Steinfeld.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, so you've seen Curb though, right.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
I've seen that's a note.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
I'm gonna be spamming you with curb click. You need
to get on board.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
It's good. Ah.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
So now that we break that down, yes, the Ow
and Yang thing is a little bit of a loop
because I feel like it's a little superfl like what
does the bone yang ad?

Speaker 3 (06:06):
I think that it adds like because Bon Yang has
he's outspoken and the way he speaks is like passionate.
I feel like that's how you when you get going,
you're life and this and that and this and I
think this.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
And I think, okay, okay, that's clarifying.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
That's clarifying, and it's funny.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Yeah right, And I'm sorry I produced him to just gay.
I just didn't. I didn't know that much about him.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Yeah, I mean he's also gay, but I don't think
I was saying that that's the thing that. Yeah, the
Stanley Tucci one.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
I'm like in a suit. Yeah, it made me feel good,
And I was like, I guess.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
That's a compliment.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
I think Stanley Tucci has ever reached a place where
it's an insult. I feel like he's always class ad.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
I mean, I want to be compared to Stanley Tucci.
He's so cool. He's really cool.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Where is he from? I know his face, but I don't.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Like a movie. What is it the Devil?

Speaker 1 (06:52):
I think that's the screencat they used and the bone
Yang was from Wicked? What did you say? Is he gay? Even?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Also that and the devilware is product. He's also an
easy a. He's the dad. And then in that one
movie where Meryl Streep cooks, he's her husband. Yes, oh
my gosh, that was Julia. That's actually my favorite.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
He's so so like nurturing her so yeah, like her
real husband was in Real Lunch.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yeah, wonderful. Yeah, honestly compliment what about that? Yeah? I
have to rewatch that movie because I.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Love Julia Child and I love the Merl Streep, and
I love Stanley And that's your movie A French Cuisine?

Speaker 2 (07:35):
Guys? Why am I not watching it right now?

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Watch it right now? I might have to watch Severance.
Everybody's on the Severance train. I feel like I'm missing
It's so good, Okay.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
I watch it good.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Okay, Speaking of Severance, we were canceled. Welcome to the
A T. A Pod universe. It happens basically on the
situation about the dress, where I said, you know, we
all kind of said be careful. What you say was
mainly me because I feel like you guys remember the dress.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
The talking We had a long conversation about like should
you just be real and tell someone they look bad
in a dress?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
And we are like, well, it really depends on what
they're going for. Yeah, yeah, yeah, do you remember it?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
So here's what Yeah, so it was. It was the
she the bride showed the groom the dress before the wedding. Yes, okay,
it was a nine thousand dollars dress.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
There's dresses okay, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
She wrote, we need to start acting like adults in
our relationships. I understand as a woman who had a
wedding and a wedding dress that she wears to her
wedding is about her. But if you engage someone's opinion
and ask for their honesty, then you don't get to
punish them for their honesty, regardless of their sex. This
whole podcast was quote, women are sensitive lie to them
about how they look, which is kind on its face,

(08:49):
but misogynistic and problematic. If you were lying to me
because I'm a woman and because you don't want to
deal with my apparently inevitable emotional response, then you are
a misogynist.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
She's fun.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Wow, perfect, rest got her.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
If you can't handle me and that.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
I will say that the way she like her argument out,
I would agree with that as like a statement that
like you can't be like, oh, what does she say?
Like it's misogynistic to be like women are emotional solide
with them. I was like, yeah, what she's saying makes
sense in what she said, but I don't think that's
what we were saying at all.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
So I feel.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Like like she's a lot of fun and she's really
taking it and making it into something that it's not,
which is like, and that's your opinion, that's great, that's
how you feel. You go girl, which probably she also
has issues with me saying you go.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Pers if you feel like it.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
You should go if you feel like it, but don't
worry if you don't want to is the new thing.
But like I think that what I think that the
truth is we should all be kind. Yeah, and if
you're doing something that seems like maybe it's going to
be hurtful and unkind, it's okay. It's still kind and
truthful to say like nothing sometimes and that's okay.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
You don't always have to.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Be forthright with like harsh truth if it's there's no
reason for it, like if it's not exactly safe for
their danger or whatever.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
So I think there's so many there's so many layers
to it because it's like, first of all, I think
the way that you were describing it, the way that
you guys described it, it's like you almost said I,
and I feel like you meant it where it was
like less about appraising how the person looks and more
about how it makes them feel and how it makes
you feel, whereas men, pigs as we are, tend to like.

(10:49):
I mean, I agree with the guy. I related with
the guy because I like to look at the shape
of a woman.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
You know, pervert were canceled, after all, that's recanceled by
this way.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
But but but I'm and I'm saying that to say
my opinion is kind of shit, Like my opinion sucks,
like for a woman to say, what do you think
of this outfit? Like literally I'm saying, well, it doesn't
you know, it doesn't show off your form because I
don't know anything about fashion or style or any of
those things. So to go to an area where I'm
more comfortable saying it. As three comedians, we can all

(11:20):
relate with this. It's like when someone asked me what
I think of their bit? Having done comedy for so long,
It's like there's so many different layers. There's what does
the audience? What will the audience think the bit? Does
it kill? There's what do I personally think about the bit?
And then there's like how does this fit that person's voice?
Like there's so many different layers. So to just say

(11:41):
my honest opinion, which might be like I fucking hate it, bro,
but like that might not be relevant at all because
like there's people whose comedy that I don't personally enjoy,
But it doesn't mean that I don't respect the craft
and think they're not They think they're not good at
what they do.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Like, I think what you're talking about too is destructive criticism. Yes,
we're like they're asking because they want to get better.
That was not the situation with this dress.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Well that's the other what is the intensive to ask? Right?

Speaker 3 (12:07):
The dress was what she loves, she's going to wear that,
She's going to wear it. Spot you can't return it right. Yeah,
And I will say this is the second thing I
think to speak to what this person who's criticizing this
is about.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
It doesn't matter the gender.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
If he got a ten thousand dollars suit, I was like,
I love the suit.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I got this for the wedding. What do you think?
And she didn't like it.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
I would have also been like, you should not say
that you don't like it because like it shows off
his pop beelly or whatever it like, whatever the thing is.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
It's like, no, he feels good in it. He loves it.
Like then go on, like that's what you should be wearing.
And it's about him too. We've read to talk to
a man about his hair.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Oh yeah, be very careful, yes, playing with fire baby.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
I always hated my hair, and now I'm very grateful
for it. Yeah, because I always wanted, you know, like
wavy hair like.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Men's hair is on a limited run.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yeah, that's what I mean. I mean, I got, I
got a pretty good I got. I feel pretty good
about my what are these called the widow's crows crows feet?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
I don't know, but.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
You're good, you know, I got a buddy. Have you
guys seen a scullet. I don't know, I'm a big
My buddy has a scullet and bald thep top and
then like.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
The sorry, that's a really old reference, but it's a
good one.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Oh, Michael Bolton had to scull it. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Back in the day, became sexy Michael Bolten.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
He had long hair, bald on top and then did
you get a rug? No? Then he cut all his
hair and it was like, oh damn, you've been sexy
this whole time.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Oh yeah, I'm a skullett in bat. I told him,
I think it's a great thing for a comedian because
it's really funny. Yeah, and it's just like it's just
you can't not look at it.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, people remember.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
You shout out to Ronnie Fleming, who was played Jordan
Peterson on the pod. We made fun of Jordan Peterson.
But yeah, that's basically it. So we're not misogynists. I mean,
I I think I am still learning as I learn
about life.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
In North America.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
You have some misogynistic tendencies just because this is what
we live in. It's the world we're like dipped in,
like we're a big soup of misogyny. So yes, I
think we all have some of that, but I think
that conversation was not like that was not at the
forefront for sure.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
And she that was also the question wasn't like yeah, no, sorry.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
She's fun's ultimately yeah, any other Well, I've been doing
this thing, these social events. I know you guys heard
of this like to to too, so you basically I
think it's like New York, LA. I don't know, I
don't know how many cities it's in, but you go
out with like five random strangers dinner. Yeah, I've heard.

(14:51):
There's also one called Time Left.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, Time Left I've heard about, and that sounds like fun.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
It's been really fun and uh yeah, it's been a
great way to like meet people and like just have
a fun night. I mean, like just like being in
mid thirties, it's so hard to gather five people. Can
you imagine? I mean it took us how many weeks
it take us to three five?

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, that's like is it all fancy dinners or is
it just like you.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Could pick you could pick your budget and then so
usually there's like a dinner in activity. So probably my
favorite one I did was we got dinner at like
a pretty nice like brewery Energy, and then went to
like a jazz night in Hollywood. It was like a rooftop.
It was great.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
I love that freaking rip all strangers.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Well, I like to bring one friend because I feel
like that's insurance, Like what if we get caught with
some weirdos and we can roast the weirdos.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
And okay, so you can bring a companion on.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah. Thing and it's it's leaning singles. It's leaning singles.
But there's there's people who do it who are taken. Actually,
someone told me a story of this guy showed up.
It was one guy and three girls, and he was like,
I'm here to meet male friends, So I'm leaving male friends. Yeah,
and he didn't. He didn't well because he's so, he
didn't eat dinner with them. He just piece.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
I kind of respect that if you're like, yeah, I'm like,
this is not the goal for me. And they probably
had a great night without him.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, him being like none of you were men. Yeah,
could you guys just like be a bit more manly dinner? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
I think it's fun too, because it probably introduces you
to a lot of activities you might not seek out
that would be fun, like the jazz, And I'm like,
I don't think I ever look for a jazz night,
but I.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Would like to go to a jazz yeah you know. Yeah,
it's a good way to shake it up. Yeah, you know,
shake it us.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
I feel like it sounds overwhelmed. I feel like I
get overwhelmed at meeting new people because I feel behind
on the people I already know.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Does that make sense totally?

Speaker 1 (16:40):
What do you feel behind?

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Like?

Speaker 2 (16:41):
I haven't caught up with everybody. There's people I need
to get back to you.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Oh, I know you have a lot of unread messages
right now. Yeah, like I have.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
There's a lot of people I should have lunch with.
See how they're doing. Did they survive the fire? You know,
like stuff like that. I think that's a sign of
your really good friend.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Oh that you invest in the friends you have And
it would be too much to add you're like the
good version of no new friends.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah at capacity?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Yeah your max.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
I'm like, if you would like to join a group
of friends, I can help you out, But if you're
looking for someone on one time babe, I cannot do that.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Yeah yeah, yeah, wow, she's capped.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
I feel very honored then, because I feel like our
friendship was like pretty recent now, like you know, in
the grand scheme of life. And also I was like
I want to be friends with you.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Me and you.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Someone got pushed out, someone got five Like, I'm.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Like, I know, it's amazing.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
I mean, I'm going to start mail from something, right.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
I got pushed out of the roster, I got benched.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
You know, I'm having a great time in your spot.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Wow, it's commentary.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yeah you know you did?

Speaker 4 (18:02):
Yeah, be more fun at the dinner party?

Speaker 1 (18:05):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (18:06):
How about don't complain about shit?

Speaker 1 (18:07):
How about that I'm relegated to groupangs? Fuck you?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, I love it.

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Ai ta for telling my wife, she needs to get
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(18:52):
together twenty sixteen, has been saying she'll get her license.
Every time I, thirty one M bring it up because
I'm tired of being the one who everything falls on.
She tells me, I'm being an asshole and controlling by
telling her she needs to get it. I don't think so.
I think she's an adult and not a child, So
using these sue she has anxiety isn't valid because we're
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(19:14):
nine years. My schedule, wake up, bring wife to work,
daughter to school, work all day, which includes driving, pick
up my daughter, work, more, pick up my wife. Then
go to town three times a week twenty minutes from
where we live for dance for my daughter. Then on weekends,
if I say I'm tired to go to town or
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the moon. So then I bring up the point if
she had her license, she could go and I wouldn't care.

(19:35):
I get the same response, She's not a bad person
and a great mom, But besides the driving a zoo.
We also have a lot more problems and don't gel anymore.
Everything is a fight. As a man, I'm expected to
sit here and keep my mouth shut, no matter how
miserable tired, which I am, bury or unhappy. I am
for my family and put myself aside. But life is short.
Maybe it's time for a change.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Any Dang, you really dropped a bomb. R with all
the other stuff that's wrong, Yeah, of.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
One aside being like, oh, yeah, that would be really
tough if you have kids and you have all this stuff.
But then when he said saying you have anxiety is
like a cop out, I was like, ooh, that's I
don't think that's true. I think if someone actually has anxiety,
especially about driving, that like that's very valid and that's
like mental health stuff. So I feel like you got
to respect that. But there are other options.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
Well, I'm like, did she like a horrific car accident
or something.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I don't think so he would have mentioned that.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Well.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
I had a friend who randomly like had driven all
her life, lived outside the city, and then one day
on the highway had a full blown panic attack from
driving and had never happened before, and she had to
stop driving.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
For like a year.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah, And I was like, like, that's a that's a
panic attack.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Makes you feel you're having a heart attack? Rice right,
like she was just and she's like, I feel so embarrassed.
I've driven my whole life.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
Like I just She's like, when I think about getting
in the car again, I start to like.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Hide, was it here now? Oh no, no, it was
not here.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Which I feel like, you're driving in LA.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, you're treating a nightmare.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, but I so I kind of maybe I'm more
sensitive because I had a friend who kind to all that.
But I feel like there are other options, Like maybe
they can be uber.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
I think, well, that sounds like they live in a
smaller city, and then they live twenty minutes away from town,
so they probably live basically in a rural area.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Bicycle perhaps bicycle and daughter.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
If it's a twenty minute drive that's going to be
an hour and a half.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
Maybe mom and daughter can do a ninety minute bike
ride three times a week.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Get your to.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Dance, Yeah, now we're all.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
I will say, like, I have a partner who doesn't drive,
and i'd like him to get his lash in.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, get your license.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
It is annoying like we had the fires and like,
and I was sick, so I had to like drive.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
You know, And does he have to drive otherwise for
his life that he's putting it on you?

Speaker 2 (21:55):
No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
I would just like him to have it because these
fun emergencies keep up and are like unrelated to our life,
Like the world has become an emergency, you know, So
it would be smart for both of us be able
to drive, really is what I want? Yeah, But like
so I can understand the idea of like why am
I always.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
For you to have Is it almost like driving to
work and everything?

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Should be able to swim thing?

Speaker 4 (22:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Well yes with the ocean rising.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, well, I'm just like it's kind of crazy to
me that someone wouldn't be able to swim. I'm like,
what if you fall on water?

Speaker 2 (22:30):
What, I can't really swim?

Speaker 1 (22:31):
You can't really swim, or you can't swim.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
I couldn't like like I can swim across our like
I have to swim underwater.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I can't swim on top of water.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Well, if I push you into a lake while you drown,
if I'm in a lake or whatever a body of water,
you'll be able to get to the side and get out.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
The heart is I can't really swim.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Like let's say you fall off about you. Oh you
usually so you can't swim. Yeah. I just feel like
that's a little reckless because I'm like, what if you
fall on water? Water is kind of a thing. I
don't know if you you're you're afraid of d that way,
you don't know how to swim.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
On the last episode, I mean this part of it.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
You should learn to swim. I actually do think.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
That the hardest to get adult lessons. I will tell
you this right now. If you're a kid, it's easy
to get lessons. If you're an adult, it's much more difficult.
And that's not an excuses to comfortable. I love water.
I'll be like, oh, we have a pool. I've been
in the shallow end. It's like fun, but like I
can't like like I can, That's what I mean. I
can swim across our pool, but like I once jumped
into a lake and I'm not scared. I jump in

(23:31):
lakes and all this kind of stuff, but I can't
like swim for very long.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Canada thing you.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Could, so how many times when you swim across your
pool without like taking a break one. Oh so you're
like okay, so you're like, so.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
I can't like across Yeah, Like I'm better now, I
think than I was before, but yeah I can't. I
can't really swim, and like I need to learn how
to swim. I think I think you should, but I
don't think that it's like a universal thing that everyone
can swim.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Well, no, but I'm just I was trying to seek
out of you on like it is a little like reckless.
It's like, you can't drive a car. What if there's
a situation where you need to drive a car.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, if you lived on an island, maybe I'd be like,
you should learn how to swim. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, well every continent is an island if you zoom
out enough on Google Maps. So well, it's also I'm
mainly saying this because you just said you're afraid of
your car falling into a lake. I'm like, I think
the main problem is going to be that you can't swim. Lady,
that's gonna definitely keep you.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Well, we're teaching our kids to swim, so don't worry.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
They're gonna save me. Yeah for me, this anxiety thing,
I'm not really with you. I think if it was trauma,
then I would say you need to get therapy, like unfortunately,
And I considered a great privilege that I live in
Echo Park and I'm able to live the car free lifestyle. Obviously,
I recognize that if I had children and you know,

(24:49):
certain obligations, you're simply putting all the weight on that
other person to get you anywhere. And we do live
in you know, Hellish America, where like the whole thing
is built for cars. Like it's very few cities where
you can get away with not having a car. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
I think this one reminds me of when we had
recently about the man and the woman and the apartment
that he owned, where it's like they're not talking about
the real problem here. Yeah, like some there's like for
him to end with like, I don't know, we just
don't even fucking like each other.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah, well they don't tell Yeah everything is a fight.
And I'm like, well yeah, because it sounds to me
like she's like I have anxiety I can't and it's like, well, actually,
like you're making me do a lot of stuff, and
I think a lot. I think women very frequently get
divorced for this reason. It's like men, they're doing too much. Yes,
they're doing everything.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
This is the thing I'm not saying that anxiety gives
her like she should just not be able to not
have to do anything. I think if she genuinely has anxiety,
but you can still see that you're burdening your partner, yeah,
and that he's doing all the things like that, those
two things don't have to be like like negate each
other out. You can be have anxiety and be understanding
and try and find soft person.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
And it's sounds like that's not what she's doing.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
She's using her anxiety as an excuse to know exactly.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
So I'm like, okay, you have anxiety. I agree, Now
get therapy to not have anxiety and understand that like
this is just like so much of a burden.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Or find other solutions. I like, maybe if you'd be like, hey,
maybe my friend could carpool with you.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, there you go carpool or something.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
I get a job where I work from home or
something like that. Zoom in to dance class.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Zoom in to dance class.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
What a night on once or twice a week?

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah no, not zoom.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Zoom for real.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
But it does sound like there should be some negotiation.
I mean, has I guess he's asked her to get
her license? And yeah, this feels like almost like I
need more information a little bit.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
I want to know what else they're not telling you,
what they're arguing about.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
I feel like it's just a burden thing. Nine small
town girl NTA. She needs to seek medical health for
anxiety and take driving lessons. Us if you dropped that tomorrow,
what's she gonna do?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
That's a good point with you too, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Right, yeah, I mean for me, I think this one
is like I think, you know, realistically, I love not
having a car because I just hate being in traffic
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
And I'm like, I hate driving, but I have my
license and I.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Have a car. That's something like you have to do
in most situations, especially in this country, and it's like
I just feel like it's not realistic, like you gotta
do it, and it is. It is kind of scary,
especially in LA. I feel like in LA there's so
many traffic patterns where it's like, well, guess I'm making
a right turn and hopefully no one hits me. Like
I feel like they just designed it that way.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I like it you don't want
to whatever is going on with her anxiety. Yeah, she
sounds like she needs to seek help as well, and
like just yeah, just there needs to be more joint solutions.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Yeah. Yeah, this is like anxiety is not really the thing.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Like with all of these, right, the crux of it
comes down to there are other issues that are actually
making him feel like like that he's not appreciated that
he's ridened by this. He doesn't get to do anything
on his own. He's being criticized when he doesn't do
this thing that is clearly a burden. It's like all
that stuff has nothing to do with anxiety. It sounds
like she's just not an understanding partner.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, exactly. Well, I could see a non driver being like, what,
you're just sitting there turning the wheel. It's not that
much worse. It's like, well, but it's annoying.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Well, I'm not at home doing anything else, you know,
you're now driving you and waiting and disruptive.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
And yeah, atay for telling my wife she needs to
get her license. I think this is a pretty classic
case of just labor and balance and a relationship. Rare,
rare to see a man doing more of the labor.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Than a woman in it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, I feel like it's almost always.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Generally, it's a lot of I'm very lucky because my
husband does a lot of stuff, but a lot of
my friends.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Are like, oh then they can't do the lunch, but
they can't look at the kids. And I'm like, yeah,
I know what I'm like.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
I don't know, I know, so I think are well,
I'm a i'm at not the asshole and she is.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Frankly, Yeah, I don't think that he's an asshole for
asking her to get her license.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah I don't. Yeah, I don't think he's an asshole.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
I don't think he's an asshole. I feel bad for them, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
And I encourage them to move. Yeah, they take themselves. Yeah,
I mean I don't know their financial situation, but next
ask them to send the financially.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Send your geographic and financial bank statements.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
First, last name, social Security. You guys checked out the
Twin Cities. What a fun place to be you guys
could be there?

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Is this a joke?

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Twin Cities? Minneapolis? What is that?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
It's great?

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yeah? What's the other one in Minneapolis?

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Home Princess from Minneapolis? You can't get wrong. You know
who else is kind of me? Really?

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (29:43):
My family's there?

Speaker 3 (29:44):
You know, we used to go to Minneapolis all the
time for our shopping trips as like a big drive America.
We did not even go to America of America. We
went to albertson the outlets and it was oh, we
would save up our money and they'd take that seven
hour trip.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Oh, I love comes from a little bag. That was
a big that was a big exciting rub Well. I
say that because big art scene. She could be taken
dance lessons. Okay, yeah that you know, we could find
a carpool for y'all, Like, we're going to figure this out.
We're going to figure this out.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Yeah, here we go. I twenty eight m, Am considering
leaving my GF twenty nine F after she catfished me.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Wait twenty one and twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
I twenty eight m I'm considering leaving my gf twenty
nine f after she catfished me as a prank. Two
years together. She's sweet and kind. I appreciate how much
she loves me. She gets a bit jealous sometimes, but
I never mind it. Maybe I even liked the attention.
It made me feel attractive.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Well.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Recently, we attended a work eve and met one of
my coworkers from another branch. It was my gs first
time meeting her. Afterwards, she acted weird, asking about my
quote unquote work wife and whether I thought my coworker
was pretty. I said no, no work wife, no socials,
no personal number, she's not prettier, I'm happy, etc. Things
calm down. Weeks later, I get an IG follow request

(31:05):
from this coworker. My account's private. I approved and followed back.
Her profile only had vacation picks, recent swimsuit stuff. Strange,
but I ignored it. She started dming small talk, initially
then flirty. I told her it felt inappropriate and asked
to keep things professional. She agreed. GF became extra affectionate
around this time. I didn't suspect anything until IG recommended

(31:28):
another account for my coworker, this one public and clearly real.
The swimsuit piccks were there, mixed with regular photos.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Man, I saw the catfish. It's kind of embarrassing. I'm
so embarrassed for his girlfriend right now.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
Confirmed with coworker at work. She had no clue what
I was talking about and gave me her real IG.
I confronted GF, who first denied, then said it was
a prank, a test, or a way to reassure herself
after being cheated on before. When I asked how I
could trust her now, she deflected, accused me of cheating,
and called me unfair manipulative. I left to clear my head.
She's since bembard to me with messages claiming I'm ruining

(32:01):
a great relationship quote over some skank, saying I'm over she's.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Talking about herself because she was playing the skank.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, we've been happy for two years, but can trust
really be rebuilt after this? Idea?

Speaker 4 (32:15):
Is?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
What? Whatation? What a situation? Dane hurt people, hurt people?
There you go. It's true. She sounds like she's really her.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
I mean, that's cuckoo bananas what she did, though, it's
pretty elaborate.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
It's very elaborate.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
It's like it's like something you'd be like, I think
this is happening to your friends, would be like that
is way too elaborate for someone to have actually done it,
But then it actually happens, that's your friend's gone.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
And I feel like making an account these days, like
I don't even know if you can just make a
burner Instagram account. It's like entering a phone number.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
I feel like going to get a dummy account, and
I'm not gonna make a new email.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
House, Like I feel like that's like that. I just
it's a cringe. I feel so.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Embarrassed for I feel like, oh, and then denying it,
it's like, oh, just oh it's all bad, it's not good.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah she needs to that so like she
has trust issues. Yeah, then you can't like trick someone
and prove it, like if you go anywhere down like
like it's one like going through the phone, you know,
it's like everyone's like you probably shouldn't do that. You know,
this is like a thousand million steps worse than that.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Like she was the one who was so untrustworthy.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah, because she was scared that she couldn't trust the
pretty girl at work.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Yeah who like not Yeah, they didn't even talk outside
of work. She just was the existed in the same room.
Yeah that's a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
I think I think I'm okay with some of it. Like,
in other words, I think it can be okay for
someone to be like kind of disproportionately threatened by someone
and want to walk through that just maybe she's really
hot or whatever. Just for whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Maybe there was a vibe you know what. Also sounds
like she was cheated on, and she.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Was cheated on. So like, I'm very like, if if
my girl, my hypothetical girlfriend sad emoji, uh, you know
it was on me about that, I'd be willing to,
like repeatedly like get it, and I'd be like, hey,
there's nothing there, like I understand wry the threat and
blah blah blah. I think for me, obviously, making the
fake account is bonkers, but honestly, I almost could let

(34:39):
that slip if she just owned it and was like, hey,
I got really jealous. I created a story in my head.
You know I could live with that. I think for
me where I really am just like now, I can't
defend you. When I asked how I could trust her now,
she deflected, accused me of cheating and called me unfair, manipulative,
and I'm like, now you're attacking me for the fact

(34:59):
that you did something wild.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
I'm like, no, it makes me wonder if she's cheating
on ut totally this is like you're from before that.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Oh, I don't think that at all. I think she's
just incredibly insecure.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
It's wild that like when you get caught doing something wrong,
you deny it, where you're like, it's gonna be so
easy for someone to be like, but it was obviously.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
You, and then you admit it.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Yeah, and then you're like, I did it, but you're
the wrong one. It just feels like a child who's
been caught with their hand and the cook each other,
like I wasn't taking a cook and like your hand's still.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
In the job.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Yeah, we can see you, Yeah, we can see you.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Top comment sorry thing seventy seven ninety seven. Fuck that.
I leave the relationship immediately. Anyone who has to test
their partner's loyalty by making fake account should be in therapy.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
Yeah, it's I think it is valid to break up. Yeah,
I'm not saying that they have to, but it's super
valid to leave someone over that. Yeah, if it was
like and like I guess I am being like gender
bias in this position, because if it was reversed, I'd
be like.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Get out of there, the house is on fire.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Like yeah, it's true though, like the gender right, because
somehow it feels like an act of violence if a
man were to do that, because you'd like it's going
to escalate into something else.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Because it feels like he could come back and kill.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
You, ye say, I mean maybe that's because I don't
know all the historical times has happened that happened. But
like when a woman does it, I'm like, oh, man,
like I feel so violated, like not even violent, I
feel so like so sad that this is like the
rabbit hole, the obsession, the craziness that it led her
all like this hundred steps like it led her like very.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
How many times did you look at that at this
girl's instagram before she made this, like just going over
the picture.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
It's so stuff like that pictures.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
She had to be up, like imagine like making a
tea and seeing at night like okay, now this one
him and like that one.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Someone who is still like share photos to promote like shows,
I mean like screenshot and shit so thorough.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Like well, and she could have gotten the other girl
in trouble. What if he had reported it to hr
like it. It really shows such a fundamental And I
want to say I have a lot of understanding or
I gained a lot because I dealt this this kind
of this person kind of fell for me and was
like she I was like, I'm not interested in you,
like and I totally owned it. I was like, understand

(37:24):
how you viewed this and that as flirtatious or whatever,
and that's my bad, but I'm just I'm not interested
in you in that way. I don't see you as romantic.
And she would not accept it, and I literally felt
fear in my heart, like just because yeah, it's like
it's so far gone. It's like you're literally like discarding
me as a person. Like I'm telling you that's just

(37:45):
not what it is, Like I don't know what to say. Yeah,
and it's interesting that you said that because like I know,
obviously men are much scarier than women, men are bigger
than women general da da da da, But like I
did actually fear for my physical safety because it's like
such a lie cross when someone is directly being like
no and they're like actually yes, yeah, actually yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
But I think I'm I think I figured.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
It's a true it's like based on a true story
of his life, but like a woman become obsessed with
him and like refuse to admit that like they weren't
in a relationship and like all this crazy stuff happens.
But it was like, you know, he was like I
felt embarrassed to be like scared, but like that is
an actual thing, Like he felt.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Scary because you just don't know what the other You
don't really know what they're capable exactly, You don't know
what they're capable of.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
And when they go a little crazy, you're like, oh,
that like this could escalate into something huge.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's really scared. That's that's a
valid point.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Yeah. So yeah, I think it's just like it crosses
so many lines, uh, you know, with obviously their trust,
but also doing that to someone else, like impersonating someone else,
Like it's.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Yeah the other person, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
The person.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
It's so.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Yeah. I mean I frankly feel like she'd have to
really really hit the floor. For me, she'd have to
be like I'm going to get therapy, I'm gonna mess up,
I'm going to em are Like.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
At that point, like she had two opportunities to like,
like you said, she didn't admit it, but then she
also like lashed back out and like for me, that
would be like okay, I'm done, Like.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
That's yeah, that's it. There's no coming back from that
for me.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
She could do all those things and get better for
the next person, but that that's done for me.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, I think she'd have to do it all without
I'd be like, I'd be like, look, I'm really upset.
You're gonna need to say all the right things without
any prompting for me. Yeah, but you're right, this is
basically cooked.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, it's fair to be done. Yeah, it's fair to
be done. It's fair.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
I considering leave my GF if she can't fish me
as a prank. I think this is like NTA and
nuclear she is.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
This is a million untun said.

Speaker 4 (39:53):
Yeah, baby reindeer, Baby reindeer, Baby reindeer, learn to fly?

Speaker 1 (40:01):
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reminding my fiance that stoves are hot.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Ooh, this is the best headline we've had so far.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
Last night, my fiance thirty one m.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
And I expected him to be like four four.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
And I thirty f were winding down our days getting
ready to make dinner together in the kitchen, I popped
the chicken in the oven. Also in the oven was
our cast iron pan. We go back to our respective
video games, and then when the chicken was getting closer
to finish, I go out to the kitchen to start
on veggies. I take the now fourner degree cast iron

(40:56):
out of the oven, turn on the stove, and PLoP
some butter in there. While I turn my back and
start cutting vegetables. Fiata comes out, asking what it is
that he needs to do. I say, I just need
these veggies, which I was actively doing, and he goes
to give the cast iron pan a shake to move
the butter. Yes, the four hundred degree iron handle, he
grabbed it. It was less than a second, no lasting damage,
but definitely burned his fingers first degree. Now the question

(41:20):
became was I the asshole for not adequally warning him
about the hot cast iron? More importantly, I am refusing
more than fifty percent blame for the incident. To me,
the cast iron handles will regularly get hot when using
it on the stovetop, but obviously this was way hotter
than usual hot, so I can't say that I would
grab it with reckless abandon like my lovely fiance did.

(41:40):
He claims I should at least take majority blame fifty
one to forty nine minimum.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
I love this discussion, but.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
He thinks more like sixty forty. Additionally, my back was turned.
I didn't see him reach for the pan, or I
would have warned him. We went back and forth on
the percent blame for a while last night. Cat Aside
Obviously REDDA is the best place to solve relationship disputes,
notes he had no idea. I just took the pen
out of the oven. Obviously.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
I love this couple. Just to start off with, I
love them too.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
I'm so happy you're saying that.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Yeah, they're funny and they're nerds.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Yeah they're talking about it. Sounds like this isn't a
real fight, but a general like what do you.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Guys think, Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's no danger in this one,
which is such a relief. Yeah, like all the other yeah,
of like we're gonna get divorced or whatever.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
This was like, oh, this is a cute one.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, this is actually the civil standard as well. I
know if you guys know about that. Yeah, in criminal
criminal court, they they don't want to give a percentage,
but it's beyond reasonable doubt, okay, which I think most
people would say. It's probably like what ninety nine percent,
like pretty high, ninety five you might say, but but
it's not actually given. But in civil court, I think
they do say, or it's implied it's preponderance of the evidence.

(42:48):
So it's literally just fifty one, fifty one, forty.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Nine, and then you're guilty for fifty one.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, civilly liable, you're not guilty, right, Okay, you gotta
play money or some shit, but you might go into prison.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
That is so interesting.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Are they lawyers?

Speaker 2 (43:02):
I wonder maybe this is like a whole thing. They're gamers.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
They're gamers.

Speaker 4 (43:06):
Yeah, maybe they're doing games about logic and embers and stuff.
I feel this is so funny to me because I
feel like I if I if I was her and
he came in and touched it, I would have been like,
that's hot.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
I'm so sorry I didn't tell you.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Honestly, I think that'd be my gut reaction is it's like,
oh my god, I didn't tell you that's hot.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
I feel like I get that, and yeah, So I
think it's pretty widely accepted and known that cast iron
skillets are hot when you use them, and you never
grab a handle with even if it's on the stove,
it's hot.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
And so I feel like if he if.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
It was on the stove and there was butter bubbling
away in it, he should have known.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
But hold on, if it was just hot from that,
it wouldn't have burnt him.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
It would have cast iron handles.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
They get to with the butter still melting. In other words,
but he didn't melted. You didn't know, right, So she
took it out of the oven. Yeah, she put it
up there, and then the butter was still melting as
it was sitting on the stove.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
So from his point of view, if it was four
hundred degrees like she said, that butter would be melted.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
You put it on, it would have been melted. There's
no way that that butter.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Well, no, but he literally he goes to give the
cast iron pan a shake to move the butter around.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Yeah, it's like a puddle. You gotta shake it around
to spread it on the whole cast iron.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Well still, well, yeah, he would have thought that it
melted from being on the stove, not from being in
the oven.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
How could he POSSI point is even if it melted
from being on the stove, it would be too hot
to take.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
You cook with a cast irons, I don't know. They are.
They are very hot and to them it's not a
regular pan where the handle is a safe stone. It
is it is, but it.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Wouldn't but okay, but it wouldn't be hot. It wouldn't
be that hot from just melting buttery.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
Yeah, it could be it definitely. You cannot if you
grab a.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Cast iron from just melting butter, from melting butter, which would.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Take how long? Two minutes you're telling me, in two minutes,
it won't get hot.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Here's the thing. It won't get hot enough to melt
butter until the whole thing is hot.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Because it's thick. It's like a it's like a thick pant.
If you never use one, you cannot speak on us.
I've used now should I would like you to make
sure I.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
Don't edit out the first verdon No, we won't edit
it out.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
I I okay, so iron the handle is always hot
when it's hot enough to cook.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Even like so I think another reason where I was like,
I think I would just say sorry, we don't cook
we're dummies. But like I do use a cast iron
skillet to like make my like whatever, and you do
always have to have like your oven mint.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
That's yeah, that's very much in the thread that there
should be a signifier like something over the handle to
like show that it's hot.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Or like I think I think I would be on
the side of like she should have warned them if
there was no butter in it, because then you wouldn't
be able to tell that it was hot.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
But but but it would not have been hot enough
to instantly burn you. You think it would be hot
enough to burning not burn you, but be like ow, yeah,
ow wouldn't be But.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
If you know that about a cast iron skillet, you
should grab the oven mint.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
You never Okay, Yeah, I think we're fighting about a
few different policies. So the first, the first policy is
never grab a cast iron skillet basically by the handle
if it's on anything.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Is that a reasonable policy? I think? Is it also?
I think a reasonable policy to always let someone know
that there's something hot, even if they could infer I
think yes it is.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
I think if she had been turned the other way,
I'd be more on board because she didn't even know
he was coming in to do anything, right.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Well, she knew he was in. I think if you're
cooking in the kitchen, like say you're making tea, yeah,
you know, and it's like they didn't necessarily hear it
or whatever. I'm like, you say hot, warning, hot kettle
or whatever you say, you say it. I think that's
a good policy. It's a no brainer.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
I think that's a lot of work.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
To say warning hot. That's a lot of work. I
think it's warning hot. I mean it's not a lot
of work too much.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
I think if you're messing around with it, be like
that's hot right now. But also, like if someone goes
to touch a kettle, I'd assume they know where the
parts are to touch.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
It would be the handle.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
You say there's a hot thing, because it also means
to be careful, like don't just funk around in here.
I mean, don't tickle me or whatever. There's times in
a kitchen where something is hot and you can't necessarily
tell at a glance.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
I mean like I would say, like, oh, there's a
hot pan, there's a hot yes.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
But I don't think it's my burden.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Whenever anyone goes in the kitchen to be like, there's
something hot in there watching.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Why wouldn't you do that though?

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Because it's too much, Man, I was so much for you.
Someone's going, I don't know that's hot?

Speaker 4 (47:34):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think you need to yell hot
cooked tok thing in the area.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Have you worked in it? Were you a chef in
a hot kitchen?

Speaker 1 (47:44):
I don't. I don't know one's in my kitchen except me, so.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
I know.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
You're alone yelling hot oven.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
I stick to my policies. I feel like you do
need to tell people generally, if they're in the kitchen
and there's something really hot, you.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Just say it. Wait when you walk in the kitchen,
do you go something hot coming in? Check me out?

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Check me out? I got? I think really the question
there's a million comments I we'll read him, but right
now I just want to check in where everyone is, okay.
I do think that ultimately this isn't you say something?
You say something? It seems to me like she heated
up the cast iron pan for no reason, so.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
She could Should you put the butter in so that
it was hot? No?

Speaker 1 (48:30):
I know, but well, yeah, well it was hot beyond
what would be expected, right, had if she had got
it on the stove and then he burnt his hand
on it from the stove, then I'd be like, well,
that you're a fucking idiot. But that's not why he
burnt himself. He burned himself because he didn't realize it
was in the oven. How could he possibly know that?
And so for these reasons I am at sixty forty.
I think he's reasonable there.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
I disagree to No one's surprised at the moment. I
think that.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
I think that it's like a fifty to fifty situation
if anything be cause he I mean, if they have
a cast iron spilt and that's what he used to cook,
he should know that it's going to be hot. Whether
he thinks it's going to be four hundred degrees or
two hundred degrees, it's going to be hot, not touchable hot.
If it's on and there's melted better. Also, her back
was to him, so she couldn't have known he was
going to grab it. In my case, I would have

(49:16):
been set. I have to she saw it. I'm sure
she would have been that's how don't touch it. So
I don't think that she's the asshole for not.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Saying I don't know. We're not about that part. Maybe,
but god, I think that it's too much.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
So you're a fifty to fifty.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
I'm not even less than fifty to fifty.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Oh so you blame him, you're a forty sixty his loss.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Okay, I'm like amazed that they are still talking about this.
I guess I guess maybe sixty. I guess sixty forty
sixty for her, forty for him because her back was
no oh sorry reverse because because because her back was.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
Turned and her back was turned, and like, if you
are familiar with it, you know you shouldn't be touching
them in use. And I just also think it's funny
that he touched it and was like, why didn't you
tell me?

Speaker 2 (50:16):
It's like, why didn't see you?

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Then it's an enter the kitchen notify.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
And I disagree with your policy on it. And lastly,
I guess there's a leslie that's it.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Yeah, comment she was apologetic though, you know, yeah, this
is very lighthearted for them.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
There there the comments. The comments show me that this
couple is more mature than a Reddit Glusen writes, what
the absolute f why are you two assigning percentages to
blame this is a blameless situation. Your fiance just accidentally
grabbed a hot pand you can't be blamed for that,
and honestly neither can fiance accidents happen. Sounds like fiance

(50:59):
isn't bare and cannot give themselves great, so they need
to turn it on you to protect their ego. You
shouldn't be feeding into the blame game either.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
E s h is this the person who.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Something bad happened here?

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Though?

Speaker 1 (51:13):
This is like borderline borderline serious. It wasn't, thankfully, but
I'm like, yeah, this is why, like you do you
do want to talk about these things.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
I think it's really cute that they checked it out
and have a whole little discussion and then came to
be like like they even said like haha, right, it's
the place where you right, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Not that, it's yeah. It sounded like a friendly yeah,
like oh my god.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Babe, babe, babe, babe, I'm at the three store.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Well like hot things, babe, that was hot.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
That's from the bonus episode. You have to you have
to get.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
I grew up in Poland.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Well you want to work through this ship? Like somebody
got hurt. It sucks to be burnt can. Honestly, in peries,
he was in a.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Lot of pain. I can see why he's mad. But
to be fair, her back was turned.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
That's a big fact.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
But it's not. It's maybe maybe then I might agree
with this person that it's not about as signing blame,
but about avoiding this happening again.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
I think the assigning blame is a cute little game
they're playing and they're having done a bit. But I
think that obviously they don't want to burn hands again. Also,
if they're gamers, they need those hands.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
They need their hands they need.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
That's a good point. Well, I actually, okay, I'll go
on the other side. If someone's cooking, the person coming
into the kitchen should reasonably assume that there's hot shit
around and they should be careful and not touch anything. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
I one time I did pull out as a child,
I pulled out a cake with oven mits and I
put the kick on the stove and I took the
oven mits off, and then I.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Cut up the cake pan to show off the cake.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
And then I feel like that drop it and no
one felt bad for me.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Everyone was so mad at oh my gosh, I would
have especially for a kid have been like that. I
feel so horrible for you.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah, but I think that, like, okay, can I just
go back because there's one more thing I want to Okay.
The other reason why I think that she's not a
fault is because he came in and asked what he
could do, and she basically did not say anything about
the pan. She was like, can you shake the butter?
Be like, oh no, it's on her, but she.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Was like directing him elsewhere.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Yes, ooh. My fiance comes out asking what it is
he needs to do. I say, I just need these
veggies cut, which I was doing, and he goes to
give the cast iron pan a shake to move the
butter around. So he wasn't really respecting her. She was
cooking and ooh, actually, I think that's going to move
me a lot. Yeah, it was he thought he knew
what he was doing. He wasn't asked to do it.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
I think that's a very good argument. I really hate
this comment. Sweetel writes in my relationship, I would take
one hundred percent responsibility because what a horrible thing to happen,
And my partner would take a hundred repent responsibility because
they failed to think through their action incoherent, incoherent exactly,
thank you so annoying. Yeah, yeah, litigating a relationship like

(54:13):
this is the beginning of the end. I disagree with that. Wow,
I think I think, Yeah, it's not that serious. They
both acknowledge it. I mean it could have been serious
because you want to have protocols around like kitchen stuff.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Emergency protocols are good, all about it.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Yeah, well, when things are dangerous, you know, like boiling
water for me is like boiling water is like the
most dangerous thing in daily life because somebody hits it.
Oh my god, your big big bigg mode my brother.
I feel bad.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
It was horrific, like his whole body.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
So I'm like, and you know, with kids, I'm like
I always I'm keeping them out of the kitchen. I
am doing that kind of not all the time, but
like if there's a bunch of hot things on the stove,
I'm like, I need you guys to back up a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
If we're opening the oven, We're like, back up. You
didn't So I get that. But yeah, well, like.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
I don't know, I think a lot about you want
to always kind of do things in a way. Well,
I was just talking about this. So I left the
oven on twice in my apartment, and so my solution
was because I didn't really know what to do, so
I would just take like a piece of the recycling
and put it in the middle of the kitchen so
I could instantly just wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Know, you would remember that it was on, couldn't freere.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
So I feel like stuff like that is smart to do.
It's like, you want to assume that people are going
to do stupid things, and that's how you prevent bad
things from happening.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Just assume that people are your trauma.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
You're yeah, I think specifically because not that that's a
protocol that everyone should do well, but but the idea
is that, like, why wouldn't you set it up to
so that stupid.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
People most people will just remember to turn it off.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Well, no, but I'm not telling people what to do
about their ovens. I'm just saying, generally speaking, if you
have something dangerous, like a hot what is it called
cast iron? You don't even know the name of it,
I don't care. I'm not getting one.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
It's like, you know what I'm going to get you.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I'm gonna get.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
You one for Christmas, and then you're gonna come back
and be like, look, we need to do a bonus.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Episode so I can apologize to everybody for saying that.
So that's a big gift. They're expensive, I know.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
Actually, yeah, ten years, you're getting it baby.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Well, like I when I'm on my one wheel, it's like, look,
people are stupid. I have to assume they're stupid. I
have to assume they're not going to obey traffic. I
have to assume they're not going to see me. It's
like I have to assume they're stupid because if they're.
If they're not, then and then nothing happens. But if
they are, then I'm dead.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
But I think in that scenario, you're the guy coming in,
so you should assume and be like, hey, is this
hot because you're.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
I agree with that. I agree that they both need
to adopt different policies. And I guess you guys are
calling it labor. I think it's very reasonable to be
like hot thing, hot thing. I don't think that takes
that much work. I don't also think.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Labor is a little neurotic.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Yeah, well be neurotic. It's a hot thing. Getting burns sucks.
And I also think that if you're the kitchen enter.
You should assume that things are hot because there's cooking happening.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Where is kitchen enter for you? Is it the kitchen table?

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Is it at the counter, at the counter and the
kitchen appliance areas?

Speaker 4 (57:15):
Okay, so it's not someone it's like, not me in
this doorway and you're at the.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
Well, yeah, I have a hallway kitchen.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
So but like some people have like a kitchen, you know,
like the island.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
The island is considered a safe area because they generally
not appliance is living on the island.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
So you're saying at the countertop.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Yeah, basically at the border.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
I have seen him approach countertop. Perhaps she would have.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Well if she heard him come in. Yeah, I guess
you're I could be an open kitchen. Yeah, some people's
kitchen is open.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
You say, at kitchen. I'm imagining really my mom, because
she's fairly neurotic, like me walking in at eight in
the morning. She goes, I have a hot.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
Day, But I'm like, why are you yelling?

Speaker 2 (57:55):
It's eight am and I'm not going to drink the tea.
You know.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
My dad is a big air on the side of
caution guy, and I'm like, why wouldn't you You.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Know, we learned a lot.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Yeah there, reddits all love the place. But I love
this update. Thank you all. My fiance and I were
so excited to post this and have a relationship ripped
to shreds.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
I love them so much.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
I love We turned it into date night at a
local pizza spot, played at a bingo and loved all
the comments thanks to the laugh We had such a
fun day. Reddit calling my relationship exhausting has been the
highlight of my week. He accepts his idiot badge proudly.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Oh my gosh, I love it. I feel like they
need like a little reality TV show. They're so cute.
You should plan their wedding.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
A double burried.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Yeah, I'll plan a new wedding for Yeah. Yeah, he
doesn't know I used to do.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Yeah, I'm gonna drifter his body rights. I say this lightly,
but y t A, there's not a visual indicator that
cast irons are hot. They don't make any noise or
change color. What does what?

Speaker 2 (58:59):
They're not a chameleon.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Yeah, but if the stovesop itself was turned off, I
would believe that anyone would misjudge and think it's maybe
warm but definitely not hot. Even when I'm the one
cooking and just get busy, I forget that it's hot.
We'll grab it from time to time. We will learn that.
So yeah, I mean overall, I think I do think
you got me on U on the fact that he
asked what needed to be done. But I think that

(59:23):
both parties need to adopt to better safety practices. Nonetheless,
ant for not reminding my fiancee soves are hot. I
think in this case I am not the asshole and
he is.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Yeah, I don't think anyone. I don't think anyone is.
It's just they're such a cute couple. I love them
so much.

Speaker 4 (59:40):
I think they're fucking and yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
The fact that they brought that to a like did
they were like pizza Knight?

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Yeah, they made it fun.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Yeah, I want where do they live?

Speaker 4 (59:53):
Should we move that other family there to the community?

Speaker 1 (59:58):
They need to copy them?

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
So fun, plug away? What is this coming out?

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I don't know?

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Bible stories and we riff on them and then try
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Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
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it back and then if you didn't bring it back again,
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