740 AITA for not removing my shoes causing wife to cancel DnD night? (ft. Aisha & Kari)

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, everybody. Welcome to a I t a pod. I'm
Dandy Vega, joined by returning guests, our lovely duo Aisha
and Gotti.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yay every time, and I forget it's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
I know.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
It's just being around people you love.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
That's adorable. I was trying to think of some drama
for you, guys, but I really I don't know. It's
been a drama free era. That's I'm back on the apps, okay,
and guys, it's really weird the I'm getting a lot
of attention. I r L on the apps. I don't
know what I'm doing right.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
You've got your soul is reflecting like a better energy.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
There you go, there you go.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
It's crazy. I'm getting like a hinge like a day
which I don't know. I don't know you wish you never,
neither of you. But for me that I was getting
alike maybe a week back in the day, you know,
when I was first year and I was really lonely
and desperate. On hinges maybe like the app cans a sense.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
In question, Yeah, like on hinge? What does that mean
that it's like a like on Instagram photo? Or is
is it more like they're connecting with you.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Guys are cute. You're like, we don't know what's a hinde?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Hut on when you got a squeaky do you change
hind change the hinge?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
What is the function of a hint forty?

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Basically, if you're a woman, you'll get like I think
it's pretty typically get three likes a day, easily five likes.
If you want a relationship, you'd use like a hinge.
There's one called Field.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Sexy Time, right, yeah, it's well, yeah, it's a couple
of looking.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
It was initially made for like kink, like people who
want to unicorner or whatever like a third and then
I'll run into profiles there and it's like I'm looking
for a serious monogamous relationship and I'm like, then look
for a different app why.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Like then it's come full circle, like everyone's like diving
into kink and then so far in that now being
monogamous is king.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
I don't Oh my.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
God, you are than the people who are doing that.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Marriage.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
I actually here's my here's my theory. I think that
people doing that do actually know on some level that
makes no sense because like it makes no sense, like
if you go through some profiles, like almost none of
them are going to say that because that's not the point.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
You don't even have to show your face on that one, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, people also a picture of a beach. I'm like, beach.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
People just showed like physic like just honestly showed whole
on that one, like come over for them.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Wow, I think that's I think that's the gay apps.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
I was talking to a Bye woman about it, so
I don't know. Maybe i'm thinking of it. Maybe it's
a different, less known app. Maybe she's just on craigs.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I don't know what she's on. I've never seen girls
I know on like Sniffy's or whatever it's called. Wow,
what is the world?

Speaker 3 (02:59):
I think it's is this like dog sniffing butt? Is that?

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Like?

Speaker 3 (03:03):
But is that what it's like referencing?

Speaker 1 (03:05):
It's a cruising app, so it's definitely for.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Not for people who like cruises.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
No, I don't think that's what that is. So sweet
Eye shows corrupted.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
It is.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I never thought of this, Like gay men have a
term for hooking up, which like does make it seem
kind of classic, like, oh, we're not just like having
like we're cruising exactly.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Gay men get to they hook up so much more
I feel like than the others. Well, I think it's
more like.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
You're more open and there's like more of an understanding.
And they also don't get pregnant. That's true.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
The platform's name is right from the idea of sniffing
out or locating nearby people for potential hookups.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Oh wow, I thought it was something sniffing butts, dog
snipping butts. I thought it was like the smell of
my fingers.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
First of all, I say that, like you know that
thin and I'm like, I don't know what the thing is.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
And I think I understand in every nineties movie there's
some gross guys.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, like you can identify its like a time a
character like in Time.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, yes, terrible. Okay, here's an ick I have on
the dating apps, and I think you guys will be
on board. It's I'm really funny when someone posts that, Yeah, well,
I don't know if guys do it, because I don't
look at guys.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Guys they're funny.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
I believe it. I'm really funny. I'm like, please, at
least have a sophistication to say. My friends say I'm
really funny, because I'm like, yeah, guy, your friends say that's.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Something I make, like profile funny. I like a good
time to me tells me you might be funny, like
because you're like you're chilling.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Oh yeah, I pro I like a good time.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
I feel like if someone makes their profile funny, they
don't need to say I'm funny. It's like I'm smart.
You're like, well, do smart people say that?

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Exactly know they don't.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
It's I think it hits us particularly upsetting because like,
as comedians, people are always coming up and telling you, well,
people say I'm funny. Yeah, It's like, okay, bit you
get in line, then I go up there, yeah, go
do it right now then yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
And also I'm not sure that I would be looking
for someone whose claim is I'm funny because as comedians,
who we know we're funny because we go and we
get told we're funny. We tell jugs, people laugh. I'm
not funny all the time. I don't want to be
with someone who's like always like trying. That's like a
turn off.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, you're like, I have many things to do today.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, I'm like, I'm an actual human being who has
like other emotions other than just like riffing.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
And gags, you know.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, I want someone that is like interesting and wants
to chat and bantering, yes and and all that stuff too,
but like, yeah, can we also talk about the universe place?

Speaker 3 (05:48):
I think if someone says I'm funny to me, it reeks,
I'm lonely a little bit, like yeah, because they're.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
In and it's so sad. I'm so in your right.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, because they're always trying. Oh they're trying. Yeah, and
they're trying to get you, and usually they're upsetting you know,
it's like uncomfortable. It's wildly uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Oh brutal. Okay, here's another one that I think it's
going to.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Go back and like all the.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Like just say you're alone.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
It's really sad though. It's like it's not super common,
but I'll see it, like one in every twenty profiles.
I would say, yeah, I want someone who's obsessed with me.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Oh no, that's bad.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, something you say no, No, it's you think inside
your head and you get mad and it doesn't happen.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Yeah, No, that's like I mean, I mean, okay, now
let me just say this as I've said that very
revealing thing about myself like, obviously I want someone who's
like thinks I'm the best or whatever, but I would
never say that, And then it makes me think like
or is that thick that like I'm not willing to
say it, and maybe this person is just really honest, like, look,
I want some who I'm going to be their priority

(07:01):
and big bang boom.

Speaker 3 (07:02):
But it then like that's not going to work. But
it's just more honest.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
But it sounds like you probably don't really mean obsession.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Right, I'm not obsessed, like it's particularly but you're like
you want the affection and you want them to be like,
oh my god, you're so hot, babe.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
What I really want to think is I want someone
who's right or die. Yeah, that's what I'm looking for.
And I think that's like for me, it's like that's
being obsessed in that like I'm always going to have
your back no matter what, right, and I'm not going
to question it. I'm always in And I think that's
because I didn't get that as a kid. So it's
like that's the that's the therapy.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's the therapy side of it, right, Is.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
That Are you one of those couples where like if
you say something and then I'm like, no, I should
that's crazy, the shed is unreasonable. Then your husband would
be like, I agree with her.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
I agree that my husband, love you, babe, is not
really like that.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
You guys, I should Oh, if you're not watching, I
should finger.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
That's our love leg bage. Okay, guns, My husband is
definitely not like that. And that's almost like a point
where I have to like come to terms with the fact.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Is that's why you said And I get that you
were like, he's not what you say out loud, but
it's what you get that totally ok because he's.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Not he's not a person who's like he's not aggressive,
he's not like super assertive. He's like a white dude
who works in spaces where he's like doing community building
with people who are brown and black. So he's very
much like, I'm not important here, I'm not going to
be Yeah, he's a very good listener. He's very good
at like putting other people's needs before his. But I
think that that also, like I'm like, that's great, except

(08:37):
for with me. Then you must always make sure that
I am number one with your life. And that is
like how he feels. But it's not how he outwardly acts.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
All the time, right, So his job is to be
like neutral, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Like nuanced and stuff and hear everyone's side. So if
you did that, he wouldn't be like no muggiruls rud
or anything like that in general. But one time, and
this is where it were like it came down to.
It was like this man. We were at the park
and we had booked it for one of our kids
birthday parties, and there was this like roided out dude

(09:09):
in the area that we had booked and he was
training some old skeletor lady. Yes, I said it, and
she was like a hundred and then I was like,
we had booked it.

Speaker 3 (09:18):
So my parents went there like.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Wait, sorry, I just can we just stop? Is just
that a like a man, like a middle aged man.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Like a young thirty huge, huge roid guy was training
like she's doing exercises.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
He's training her like personal a.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Very old woman. Yes, I've never seen that.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
So many parks in my area, it's like people do
outdoor training and I think it's a lot like a
hot man.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
It's almost like.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Okay, we're getting there.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Charging like two hundred dollars. A huge age gap never.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Never, I've never read that to go to the ball park,
like fifty five to thirty five, sure, but not like
you're talking about like sixty five seven.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Like maybe she wasn't that old, but she looked. She looked.
I feel I see a lot of friends training friends. Anyways,
keep going.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
So this anyway, my parents went there to set up
and the guy like wouldn't leave. So I come out
and I was like, all these like like four year
olds are going to be showing up, and he's like
got stuff everywhere, and so I was like, hey, we
booked this area. We just need you to like literally
like move like over there.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Because this is where the picnic table is, is where we're
setting up.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Sure, and he like refused and he's like, well, then
show me the permit. So I was like okay, So
I showed him the permit and he like got in
my face and started being like we're almost done, and
I was like, no, we've booked it since nine it's
not nine forty, Like.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
You need to leave. People are showing up, and he wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
He refused to leave, and I was like, we need
this bench and area and his stuff was all over it.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
So he's like, well, then move it. And I had
this moment where I was like, all right, so I
picked up this stuff and like.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Went like this and dropped them and then ye, and
I was holding my baby in my face and like
chest bumped me. Oh, Josh, and he knows better than
to like step in front and try and take over
for me, because I was riled right, and I'm like
now I'm like flight. He took the baby and I
like said okay, like let's go.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, was like and I.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Started like yelling back at him. And then I was
like someone filmed this because I was like no, no,
and then so he's then Josh Putt gave my mom
the baby and then he came back and the guy
looks at Josh and he goes, you better tell your
lady to shut the.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Fuck up, and he goes, I'm not telling her ship.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Sorry, But I was just like that was the moment
where I was like, oh no, he's got my back
in a way that like suits me, where he's not
going to step in front. But he's very much like no, no, no, no, no,
I'm not gonna let anyone talk to her like that.
But she's got her own and I'm right behind her
to do this anyway. He eventually I told him I
was going to call the police, and I took a
picture of his license plate, and he cleaned up his
ship and he left. But I was like, I stared

(11:56):
him down. I was like, I was so adrenaline. Baby, Yeah,
Josh came the baby.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
This is a movie.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Josh is also not Josh. The man is lucky that
Josh came and grabbed the baby, because I think what
would have proceeded to happen is you would have whooped
his ass one handedly holding That would have been more embarrassed.
He didn't seem to be.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Scared of being aggressive to a child, which was scary
to me. At one point, he picked up one of
his like dumbbells and threw it against the fence that
was right there where like there were kids.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
So that's why I was like, That's when I was like,
call the police. And then like and then he like.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Quickly realized I think what was happening that like people
were witnessing and people were taking video, and I had
his license plate, and he like packed up a ship
and left, and then skeletory lady was like, is this
what she wanted? This is how you're gonna raise your kids,
And I just went off on her. It was it
was like, honestly the most like terrifying and exhilarating like
moment of my life where I was like, oh, I'm
a mama bear for sure, like I will fight you

(12:57):
to the death because I'm trying to protect my kids
and like no questions about it anyway, my mom, this story.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Is too good. This episode just became main we just
have to go out.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Like I had a whole moment to where I was like,
what was I going to do against this huge juice
up dude? And then I thought, I was like, you
can juice up as much as you want, your balls
never get stronger.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
I was like chicken in the nuts.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, that's the Like why why are any juice up
dudes ever confident? Like if you don't wearing a cup
at all times, why are you ever now.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Any But he bumped against you, I mean that's he assaulted.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
Fielding a baby.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
I mean that's just what do you even say to that?

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Also, like that skeletal lady was for sure fucking him right,
Like why else would you stand by that?

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Is there money there?

Speaker 3 (13:39):
Wild? Is there? What?

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Is there money there, which.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
I mean I don't know. I mean if you don't know.
If so, how did she survive it? Like he was like,
how did he survive it? Mentally as well? Sorry, I'm
being horrible back Gleatar showed herself when she stood by it.
I should have been added, she should have been like,
you're right, let's move. I would have been so embarrassed.

(14:04):
I feel like the same iss she should.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Have felt embarrassed because this dude was like like on
the wrong side, going off the rails around, rowing and
like grow.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
The fuck up.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Guy. Sounds nuts? What a story.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah, I have that too, though, where I like where
I'm more aggressive between the two of us, and it
can be a hard dynamic, but you need it, you
need someone more chill. Yes, totally. But it's hard sometimes
to like translate in their head how they react to things,
you know what I mean, Because my my thought is like,
let's fuck, let's shut it down, shut it down, let's go,

(14:40):
you know, and his is like, let's breathe. And I'm
like breathings for babies, Like.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
I'm chill most of the time, but then I like
pop off and Josh is like more like he's like
at a different level. But he's like that no matter what. Yeah,
and then it takes a lot. But then when he
does pop off, it's kind of scary.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
It's kind of better though. I think it's better if
the woman is a it'll move forward because like you
have to be a true psychopath to I mean, this guy,
the fact that he bumped you already is so crazy
to me. But I have a I have a friend
person I know he super jacked does like whatever martial arts,
is really good at it. And I was like and
like he like went to the next level. I forgot,

(15:17):
Like he's like in the advanced class now or whatever.
And I was like, so now that you're so like badass,
like what would you do like in a fight? And
he said run And I was like, A he's like
because there's He's like, you don't want to do that
your career exactly, you ruin your life. You could be
bumped on your head.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Even like martial artist that is he a martial artist
or is he like a weightlifter?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
He was like, I think he was a weightlifter and
now he's like martial arts. I forgot what it's called.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Nothing comes from fighting, even I like new martial artist,
especially like in college, there was like a lot of
crossover between like martial artists and m and they were like,
oh yeah, if you're in a fight, like disarm and run,
Like this isn't like a match, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not if you're doing a sport
and that's the sport of it. Sure, but like there's
no other real reason for it. I mean, I've never
been in a fight in my life and that's it.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
As a kid, I'd get into rumbles. I was a
little tough and rumble. Yeahottie, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
Our second story of the day, I'm so pumped for this.
A t A for refusing to take my shoes off
in my friend's house, causing his wife we're not even done.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Oh my god, this sounds racial as hell.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Causing his wife to cancel the D and D session
for everyone.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
The details here are perfect.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
We're really going to public spaces town because the first
one is in that same note. Here we go, guys,
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it a shot. See if you like it. Here we go, folks,
Thanks for listening. A I t A made people uncomfortable
at a coffee shop. I'm a thirty six year old man.

(17:04):
My local coffee shop has a set of five leather
chairs that are more comfortable than the rest of the chairs.
We love a good chair. When I got there, three
men around sixty were sitting in three of the chairs talking.
I squeezed past them into a fourth chair, pulled out
my headphones and started listening to a pod. I don't
know and don't care what they were talking about. Maybe

(17:26):
ten minutes after I sat down. What of the men
mentioned they were uncomfortable with me being in on their conversation.
I told him I wasn't in on it. I was
willing to move, but the other two men with him
decided it was time for them to leave, so they
got up and left. Was I an asshole for entering
their conversation in a public seating area?

Speaker 3 (17:44):
What?

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Wait a minute, So he sat down on a fourth
chair that was not like that's just near where they were.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
There are five chairs together.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Okay, Oh, he put in his pods and was listening
to his thing. Yeah, And the men then were like
this dude's listening in let's look. Yeah, no, that seems
like crazy expectation for him to not sit next to them.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
I guess. I'm like, do we know for sure there
were no other chairs? And also those are the comfy chairs? Oh,
those are the comfy There.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Are the comfy chairs. So nobody. So this one is
a little bit of like reading between the lines because
I read this and I was like, I don't like
this guy. I don't like what he did. Really. I
feel like what he did was criminal in nature.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Okay, so why because he shouldn't sit next to people?

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Just something about he's had a set of five leather chairs, like, oh,
so they are together, and like, yeah, you kind of
intruded on their bubble, you know, I.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Don't think are these chairs in a circle? Oh that's
what I was thinking, same question.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
So we have answers to the questions, but I want
us to just delve in a little bit before we
get to it.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
I feel like what my initial response was, I would
also not enjoy if someone that if I was having
a group conversation, all of a sudden someone sat in
and obviously they weren't a part of it. They were
in their podcast. But I don't know. If I'd be like,
this guy is a dick, I'd be like, well, it
is a public space, yeah, and I probably would be

(19:10):
like what it's assigned to Moseyon now, Like I'd probably
be like, let's go for a walk or like you know,
or just like try maybe try and maintain and be
like what the fuck is this good doing it?

Speaker 1 (19:22):
And then like, yeah, it's weird because like so much
of the context is important to me. I'm like, if
I'm in a coffee shop in Manhattan and it's full
and it's fool, it's like, yeah, I mean, there's kind
of no rules in the context. But if it's like
I've immamined the Starbucks in Casagan day, you know, my
small Arizona town, and someone does this, I'm like, okay,
that's a fucking serial killer has sat down. Yeah, slowly

(19:46):
back away.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
I feel like the reason this person said the comfy
chairs is to emphasize like perhaps the other seating options sucked,
and this is their local where they go all the time. Yeah,
and they sit in these chairs, so they're like, okay, cool,
there's an empty one. I wonder what they were talking
about that they were so concerned someone was close, because
if you're talking about something super private, you don't go

(20:09):
to a public place and sit inside and talk about it.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
But isn't that don't you just feel violated, just like
why are you sitting so close to us?

Speaker 3 (20:16):
I think if the rest of Yeah, one time and
my sister went with like a group of friends to
see a movie and it was an empty movie theater
and a man came and sat right next to her. Yeah, yeah,
and we were pretty sure there was like water on
that seat before he sat down, and then he like stay.

Speaker 1 (20:33):
Like water perfect. Perfect.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
It was very busy, like the whole rest of the
movie was full and like was empty, was empty, and
he sat right next to her and like he did nothing,
but it also sat like through an empty like a
wet chair. I can't remember. I could have sworn. We
were like there's like buckets, like yeah, like it was
something so busy.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
He's pushing the popcorn into it.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Yeah, because we were like I think think we all
like clocked and we were like huh. And but then
it was like I guess, I don't know, maybe he
did like buy, maybe that was like the assign sign
or something, but it was weird.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Oh that would change my answer though.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Because like sign seating, I feel like that's a newer
thing I'd never hate. And I think people sit in
their seat and then sometimes if it's empty, they'll.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
Move and go.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Anxious and then you're like, what if somebody shows up
and then they're gonna thing.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
I do get I get that because Mark is like
when we get an assigned seat and like Timus before
the movie, no one's there, He's like, let's move around,
Like no, because then we're gonna move again exactly, get
care and then ten minutes in maybe we'll move.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
But I guess yeah, but yeah, I mean there's certain
things people do that it's like, here's what I think.
I think we go back to lonely on that. I'm
kind of like, you know, he knows it's wrong, right
on some level he knows you don't do that, but
it's like he wants something to happen. See.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
I feel like this is again going back to the shed,
where it's like, we don't know this guy's thinking. He
probably was just like cool, this is where I sit
all the time and there's no one.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Well, those are probably the best seats, right, because you chose.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Like, besides, that pretty hard in the beginning, they're still
being set down.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
It makes direct icon.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Well, but in the theater, though, I do see it, right,
because that's an argument I would make. I'm like, yes,
but there's usually pretty much an ideal row, and then
obviously you want to be in the middle.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
Yeah, okay, I want to say the reference we were
at the way back in a very small theater.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Is that too crazy to assume?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Okay, so if we're talking about the theater, I'm on
board where I think it is strange because a theater
has more than more like a coffee shop has fewer seats.
Usually a theater has a lot of seats and like
a lot of options, and obviously the middle, center middle
is obviously the best.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
But like would you.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Well, no, actually I have a counter argument. Now you
sat in the very back.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Maybe you guys are the psycho exactly.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
He was like, oh, these guys are psycho too.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
We'll sit in the back and be evacuating. It was
just weird that he would sit there because he yeah,
and it was right by her.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
Okay, here's where we could go to ricci logic because
it's almost like right, it's almost like you're sitting next
to so it's almost like begging for attention and connection.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Right.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Do you ever ever be driving and someone drives right
next to you and it's like do you want to
be my friend?

Speaker 3 (23:21):
And get away from it? On the highway. I'm so
bad at noticing me too. I'm like call me and
be like I'm here. I'm like yeah, yes, And I
was like, Okay, is that looking at me, Jake Psycho?

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, wait, they're in the car.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
They're in the car, yeah, being like dude, I'm behind you.
I've been waving yeah yeah, yeah, Well I was busy
driving my car.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
I thought one time I was driving and I randomly
saw you on the street and like yelled out.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
Of my window. This was like before we were even
really friends.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
I think I remember it was like some random I
thought about this just the other day and I was like, wow,
it was me or not because I was hanging out
my window driving past fast crazy and I was like,
oh my god, that's this is a.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Sign that this is a sign we're friends.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
I think going to movie theater, I think you just
say hey, I just want you to know, like I
have a reserve seat or like, is it okay if
you don't have a reserve seat, Hey, is it okay?
If I sit here? This is kind of like the
optimals seat.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
When I'm doing that, if I sit next to people
for some reason, I'll often be like, sorry, this is
just like it's the best way to see your door
or something like that.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
You know, the best way to see the door? Are
you one of those people?

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Sometimes I'm a very energy person sometimes and like the
energy means I need to sit this way, like it's
very Josh always laughs at me because I have a
very specific seat I always want to be in when
we walk in a restaurant. But I will say this
that I have been in the theater where someone sits
next to me weirdly and then they turn on and
talk to you, and it's exactly that thing where you're
like they just they're like, oh, I want to like
have a friend because they've come by themselves and they

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want to get back.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Ever had that hat, I would like be like and
I'm moving my seat. Yeah, Like I would be like
absolutely not. I'm paid to see a movie.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Okay, yeah, let's play it out. Got it. You're in
a theater alone? What what movie would have be.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
A movie alone Superman for the third time Superman Memberman,
Have you seen it?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Okay, So I said, I say in front of you,
I'm looking back. Hey, I don't know. I'm like, come
to Marvel.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Movies and I'd be like, it's DC and I believe.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Local Man. Local Man walks into the Pacific Ocean and
after brutally shut down.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
I like Superman especially. Yeah, I've had I remember I
had a guy. I was like at a table and
a man sat down and started being like, oh, like
trying to talk to me, and he was like, are
you writing right now? I was like, I am writing, Yeah,
why would you talk to me? Yeah? He was like
he was like should I leave? I'm like yeah, like
I'm not doing I don't know you.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
I'm very like I talk to people all the time,
and I allow people to talk to me all the time,
and I always get into a situation where I'm like
I should not have started.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, I can't imagine. Especially you have like a very
bright to use. I mean, whenever I'm wearing orange, people
are gonna come talk. I feel like.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Or is a friendly color.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
It is a friendly color. It's like an inviting color.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
So op finally caught I had all these suspicions, so
you think I'm crazy. You know how to read between
the lines.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
A little weird, And I also will say I forgot
what I was gonna say. I don't know if I
would have sat there.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Opie then finally replies, the chairs are arranged in a circle.
They can be moved apart if people want to face
each other. More, these guys are right in the middle
of the area, more or less occupying the whole thing.
No table, replies someone in the middle. There is a table,
so they're literally he literally sat at their table. And

(26:40):
then he says, but it's not like these chairs are
around a table, like a set of table and chairs.
It's definitely meant for multiple groups to share the area
as opposed to being for a single group. Really a
five top Okay, it's a reach.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
So I feel like he Okay, what are you going
to say?

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I was going to say, I think that the circle
makes it a lot more intimate because he's facing that worse,
no matter where you're sitting, you're facing the other people.
I still, if I were the other group, if that
conversation was so private, I didn't want people to hear,
I would not have an inside at a coffee shop
where there's chairs for people. If you don'tant people to
sit there, put your bag on it. Be an asshole.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah, put your bag on the chairs and be like
we're taking that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
You don't have to do that if you if you
go anywhere, I think.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
You should because that's a common area and those chairs.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Like your time would be. Go to Starbucks at a
two top, you're going to cover the other chair. It's
like two top is different though, I think it's a
five top and there's three guys.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
There, he said. Specifically, it's not five chairs around a
table like a five top. He said, it's just chairs
that are meant to be shared by different groups.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
We just disagree so much on everything. He's trying to
paint a picture. He says, it's not like these chairs
are around a table like a set of tables and chairs.
It's definitely meant for multiple groups to share the area. Yeah,
that's he's just saying. It's bullshit. There's a table in
the middle and there's five chairs.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
A table like this, right, and it's a coffee table.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
But that's I don't think that there's saying if it's
leather chairs, there's there's no way there's.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
A table two one two, Yeah, that's still kind of
functionally a table. Actually, I mean I I think I
could go back to where is this? Is it in
the suburbs or is in the herbs, because that kind
of does affect my answer.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, I feel like I need to know how busy
the shop was. I need to know how bad. Like
I will say, circle round tip, I'm like, okay, yeah.
But then it's also it's like like I feel like
there are coffee shops that have this exect setup where
there is we're on a couch fu coffee table, and
I feel like this would serve for multiple groups. Yes,

(28:35):
I that's what I'm imagining. Yeah, because it's what I'm
imagining if there were but if there were seven people
and then two people sat over there, like I'm pointing
across the way, If two people joined a seven group
people on the couch and they were like, oh, there's
a little bit of room, It's like, one, I guess
how busy is it? And two I think I'd also
be like, I mean, I guess it's public, Like who

(28:56):
am I to not? I'd love that there's not a lot.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Of others seats, or if the other seats are like
like I'm imagining in this coffee shop, it's pretty small ish.
Let's say it's on a huge spot and that the
other chairs because he emphasized so much at the beginning
that these are the comfee chairs, that the other one
is maybe like wooden tall stools, right, and like that's
not comfortable to sit.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
In for a long period of time.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
That's a nightmare.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
So obviously you're gonna want one of these ones. And
if it's not, if it's what I'm imagining, which is
a similar setup to this, where it's like made for
multiple people, low table in the middle, you just put
your coffee on there. That like I would have no
problem with that, and if I felt uncomfortable.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
I would just circle. That's I think that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
The circle is feeling that like kind of makes it
more intimate, but not enough for me to say, this
guy's an asshole.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Circle. A circle is a closed shape, not a you.
So what happened to you?

Speaker 3 (29:45):
So if it was just as a square.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
No, this is a rectangle. No it's a you, it's
a U. The proof has been.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
What if you covered that and then that would be
that was sable. I think it's definitely rectangle in a.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Coffee shop, this would be an open layout. The circle, though,
is kind of implying that it's tight. I guess I'd
have to see.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
I mean, you're right, you're like, is it a loose circle?

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah? Exactly, how is it? And I am with you.
That's I would call that spread strategy. So like if
you're if it's technically like that and that's the ender,
I mean, that's it's there's also like the microculture of
the place, like, how is that generally used? Spread strategy
would say, instead of sitting next to each other, you
spread out, then you could put bags. That's like really

(30:30):
heading into And.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Also it sounds like the culture of it is like
that's his local. He goes there, he knows those the
company of seats. He's more familiar with the place than
these dudes who came and sat down. In my opinion,
in my version of hearing what I'm hearing, so I
don't think that there's I'm like, if it's so tight
that he had to ask them to move their legs
to get in there, Okay, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Yeah he did, I say that. Yeah, he says, I
squeezed past them. Okay, I think for me, that's gonna
send it. We got a circle and we got a squeeze.
That was the one thing you had. If it was
a loose circle, I could bend. The fact that he
even posted shows he wasn't so sure about it.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
I also want to know if he put his ear
pods in looking at.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
All of them, like I'm lately.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
He pulled up his phone and was like play I'm
not listening, yeah, or or yeah, like it doesn't Yeah,
I guess I mean the squeeze is not good. I
think I'm still I'm still like neutral to it's fine.
Or did he say if it was a full shop
or no?

Speaker 1 (31:35):
He doesn't address that, so I think to me, that
says it wasn't full. He could have sat other places otherwise,
because if he said there was nowhere else to sit,
and then I think I'd be like, there's nowhere else
to say it. Part of my it's you know that
that would shift me.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
But my other thing is does he say he sat
down start listening or he was listening when he sat down?
Good question.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I squeezed past them, pulled out my headphones and started listening.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
I think you should know. I really want to know
what they were talking about that they were so like,
that's also what I was going to say. Are they
like talking about how they're all going to smash, like
treating on their wives just violated. I feel like it
is a little weird to be like, this guy is
listening and we're leaving. Like, to me, that is also

(32:22):
weird because again, like I said, it's technically a public space.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Well I thought it was ballless. I would have just
been like, hey, man, hey buddy, hey man, hey, there's
plenty of other seats. Man, we're kind of having here.

Speaker 3 (32:35):
Now. This is the thing.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
If this as the alternative, which I never even considered,
if someone said that to me, I'd be like, no,
go scre yourself.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
This is a public space. I'm sitting here.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, Like if someone told me like, hey, we don't
want you to sit in.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Your ass, but if there were other seats available, like
comfortable seats, comfortable, I'm sitting here.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yeah, I feel like it's hard for me. I also, again,
would I feel like if I was having a conversation
and people were somehow moving on the conversation, I would
be like, it's time for us to take a walk
and have that.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
I mean, that's basically what they did as a walk.
Anti Gager wrote, NTA went Unta, It's a coffee shop,
not their living room. If they want a privacy, they
should go elsewhere. In my view, this is the same
as sitting next to someone at a theater without reserve seats.
It's uncomfortable, it's creepy. The fact that he had the
squeeze pass and that there is a table to me
says there is an expectation that this is a group table.

(33:28):
He violated that norm selfishly. I'm sorry, this is an
asshole for me? Clear why ta.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
I? As most times I feel this person is in
fact not an asshole. This person wanted a comfy chair
and there's nothing wrong with that. I didn't encroach in
their conversation and in fact was like, I'm gonna put
pods in to make sure they know I'm not here
doing this. I just want a comfortable chair. And this
is this this person's local place. They prob I'm assuming,

(33:58):
know the culture and the all of that space and
wouldn't have encroached if they felt like that.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Was Did you say it was his local?

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, my local coffee.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
So I'm saying, not an asshole.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
You're saying, no assholes here, no assholes here.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Oh this is hard. I feel like I'm always in
the middle of the divorce.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
This one's not as heated as Shag because I think
I think we're more on a fact I think he's
more of a factual issue.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
I'm going to say he's not the asshole, but that
he is a weirdo. I'm going to say, this man
doesn't read the room often.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
That's not really sound like you're describing an asshole, not.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
In an asholic way. I'm thinking of someone specific and
not in an assholic way, just as truly, just like
I'm thinking of somebody. Okay, I know my life and
they do not always read the room very well. Sometimes
they're persons, so you're saying, and they're they're okay, okay,

(34:59):
all right.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Interesting those are actually three different answers.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
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here we go. Brilliant pumped for this one. I have
no idea what's going to happen here ATA for refusing
to take my shoes off in my friend's house, okay,

(35:22):
causing his wife to cancel the D and D session
for everyone.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Sorry.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
I thirty eight m was invited to D and D
with four others at my friend Alex's thirty four m house.
When I got their wife answered and immediately asked me
to take my shoes off because they have a strict
no shoes policy due to them having a crawling baby.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
I explained, I have a medical condition called epidomolysis belosa
simplex EBS, which makes the skin on my feet extremely fragile.
Even mild friction or pressure can cause painful blisters and tears,
so I have to wear support shoes with cushioned orthopedic
insoles even indoors. Walking barefoot or just in socks causes

(36:06):
me pain and can lead to bleeding. She suggested I
put grocery bags or socks over my shoes, but I
told her that's unsafe for walking and honestly just insulting.
She said she quote can't compromise her baby's health for
my comfort. When Alex came to the door, he told
me to quote just deal with it for a couple
hours or I wasn't welcome inside. I told him I
wasn't going to risk injuring myself over a D and

(36:27):
D session, and if my shoes were that big of
an issue, I'd respectfully leave. As I walked back to
my car, I overheard his wife telling the other guests
that were already the night was off because I quote
made a huge scene at the door. Later, I got
a group text from Alex saying he was canceling DA
D night because quote, it's not fair to expect everyone
else to pretend nothing happened. Some mutual friends say I

(36:50):
overreacted and could have just sucked it up, while others
think Alex and his wife are ridiculous for ruining everyone
else's plans just because I decided not to stay. So
ai ta.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Huh o pictures.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
The title of this being like, you can't am I
the asshole for not taking my shoes off? I was like, yeah, yeah,
Then I got more information. I'm like, oh, maybe not.
Then I got more information. So many, so many like
it's layers.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
I also I so I lived next door to a
Mormon family who had like eight literally like eight kids,
like seven girls, one boy, good God. Like, there was
one day I wasn't and we had a pool that
they didn't, and a lot of our relationship was them
climbing over the wall and staring at our pool. And
then one day I wasn't there, I wasn't home. I

(37:34):
don't know where I was, honestly, but my mom somehow
let the kids come over and be in the pool,
and one of them did have that foot thing and
they led all over our yards. Oh my god, all
over the yard and like it was like a whole thing.
And then my mom, it's kind of funny. She was like,
she told my brother to go get Jeff. And there
are two Jeff's in neighborhood. One is their dad, who

(37:57):
is a doctor, and the other one is a stoner
down the street. And because he knew him more and
know the other one, was like, yeah the stone Yeah,
well he was like the dad of his friends. So
but yeah, that foot things real.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
I've never heard of it.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
I don't hear it either. I don't know the name
of it. But when he described it, I was like, Oh,
that's what the Lieberman's had, and like ruined our yard. Yeah,
imagine that, that'd be horrible.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I mean, I have a no shoe it's not super
strict at our house, but like this is also a
Canadian thing, as we don't wear shoes in the house, yes,
because it's discussing outside slushy and all right. And then
there's also cultural like where it's like for certain cultures
you don't wear shoes inside, but really, like, you know,

(38:50):
it's funny. When I was a kid, I thought it
was made up for TV that people wore their shoes
in the house, and I thought it was like an
American TV thing where people would be on a couch
with shoes on, or like go on to bed with
their shoes.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
And I was like, that's insane. No one wears their
shoes inside and everywhere, Like these people are hilarious. Yeah,
it's so fake.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
But I came here and people just walk around the
shoes and I was like in my mind, I'm like,
it's disgusting. It's so dirty outside, and like just as
a person with no kids before, I was like, oh, gross,
I don't want all your.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Dirt coming in my house.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, and then it's a real thing, like babies went
at a certain age you cannot get them sick because
if babies have like a certain fever.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
They can't just deal with it at babies.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
You have to go get a spinal tap for a
baby to deal with getting a fever. So it's like
very I understand it now being a parent when people
are like wash your hands when they come in, like
take your shoes off, don't bring that dirt inside. And
in a place like like here we live in Los Angeles,
it's disgusting, Like there's so much pollution, there's so much dissolution.
So like I think that people, I think sometimes get

(39:54):
like uppity about people asking them to take their shoes off.
But when you actually think about, like how much like
if you went and swabbed someone's shoes and then it's
like swab someone's carpet, you would be disgusted. I think
everyone would take their shoes off. You know, it's just gross.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, I think here we have like what is that
thing they always say like could God make a burrito
so hot he himself could not eat?

Speaker 3 (40:13):
I know, never heard that that means.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
It's like it's like, you know, it's just a funny
version of like an immovable object versus an unstoppable force. Right,
It's like you have two sides that kind of refuse
to budge. Now, I will say, on the baby side,
you've raised some very valid points, and to me it
does seem like a valid thing. You can make the
baby sick because it's going to bring in grime and

(40:37):
bacteria and things of this nature, and so I think
she's valid. On the other hand, I do think there
is something kind of humiliating about making someone take their
shoes off if they're not used to it, and wearing
like bags over it or socks over their shoes.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
I thought they just wanted them to put trash bags
over their shoes. I think that's what that was. I
can understand if and I can unders and why he
maybe would be reserved about that. It slips, like if
his feet are so sick.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
The snow thing, I'm like, is the house covered in oil.
I don't think you're.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Gonna switch what a fun house?

Speaker 1 (41:14):
What a house is this? But like the safety aspect there,
to me is a little laughable. But I'm like, it's
your you know, it's your body, your choice. I think
you're being a little ridiculous. I would just put on
the fucking bags and shut the fuck up. But but
I'm just like yeah, and so he was like, well,
I don't want to do that, and then he left,

(41:35):
And so that was my take on this. I'm just like, yeah,
so he didn't want to do it, he didn't want
to follow your house rules. He did not disrespect the rules.
He just said, okay, those are your rules. I have
a foot thing, which is pretty pretty serious. And he's like,
I don't want to do it. I don't want to
accommodate your rule that way, and I walked away. I'm like, yeah,
I can see how that's jarring, but.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
He didn't do anything long back it up.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Let's back it up, okay, right, So I think that
it sounds like it wasn't like this person said, hey,
we really need you to take your shoes off.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
We have a baby.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
And then the other person was like, oh my gosh,
of course I totally understand that I can't, so I'll leave.
It wasn't like an instantaneous like I'll leave if I can't, But.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
There was a back and forth because then the husband
comes in, right.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
So I feel like if there had been in the
very beginning of this person being like, oh, I have
this foot thing and I can't actually take my shoes off,
and then the woman was like, okay, cool, but like
you can't wear your shoes in here's some other options,
and they went, no problem, I'll leave, I'll come back
next time. I'll bring indoor shoes whatever the case may be. Right, Like,
there's lots of solutions that could have happened. It sounds
more like this was like a back and forth heated thing.

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I have two people being there. Whatever the burrital thing.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
She suggested, I put grocery bags or socks over my shoes.
I told her that's unsafe for walking and honestly dis insulting.
She said she can't compromise her baby's health for my comfort.
To me, Alex came to the door. He said, just
deal with it for a couple of hours.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
I think I think the reason I think it was
heated is that the has the her the friend had
to come up and be like, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Why are you?

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Like? I think it did turn I think you're right.
I think it did turn heated. Instead of like people
being like, oh and you oh.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
It was tense. I'll get you tense. It was definitely tense.
It wasn't a present interaction.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
So I think that, like I think also, if they're
really friends and this really is this person has his
foot condition, I'm sure that they've experienced this before, so
it's not like something weird, wildly shocking thing and like
the idea of putting bags on your feet. Sure, maybe
it's a bit humiliating, but like if you're with your friends,
like who cares, Like why.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Would you be Like I know, I think it's ridiculous,
but I'm like, yeah, but he doesn't want to do
it for whatever fucking reason.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
Which is fine, and I think then like leaving, but
to me, it does sound like tense or heated, something
other than just like two people having a discussion about
how we work out a solution.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
And so it was like, fine, I'm leaving.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
And then it's like the I mean, I think that
the wife saying like, okay, well we have to cancel
this because now the duff is a bit much as well.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
That's where she's lost me there. I'm like yeah. And
then she also characterized it as making a scene. I
don't really think that's what a scene is. I think
it sounds like.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
It was a scene. I wonder if like for him
to say this is insulting, if like if you really
hit that over the Yeah, that's how it's like, this
is so insulting to me? How dare you? Yeah? How
dare you? And like to that, I would be like,
well that's silly maybe, And also I'm like part of
me is like, if you've had this foot thing forever,

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this can't be the first time.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
Okay, insulting you're right is kind of a loaded thing. Yeah,
I think I think that can score some points with
me on making him an asshole, because if I say
what you're saying is insulting, that's implying that like you're
acting with malice.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
And I'm like, if she has a new baby, she's tired, Oh.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
My gosh, I'm going to give her some grace on that.
Because if you have a new baby and someone comes
and is like like essentially like you kind of get loopy,
like you're not a crawler. Crawling could be anywhere from
like three months to like six months, that's still new.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
You're still not getting I think that baby. I mean
for me to say new baby, I'm saying baby because
it doesn't stay a baby for long. It's when it's
a baby, it's new, you know, I mean, then it's
a toddler, and then it's a child.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
And then I'm just now getting mostly full nights of
sleep and my youngest kid is four years old.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
I did not expect that. And you're gonna say, like.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
No, es, you do not get full.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
And I have friends who their kids still don't sleep
for the nights, like you imagine. It's not like it's
like that's an accumulation, right, So like this woman's probably.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
All right, well done, well done, you got her off
the hook. You got her for me. Now, I mean
for ladies, she's gonna be tired. And it also feels like, okay, yeah,
I mean the babies are also young, so this kind
of feels like, hey, you know, the kids get you know,
the kids crawling. Now, can I have D and D
night baby? And she's like okay, yeah, okay, you know what,

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let's just do it.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yeah, we'll do it.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
And then she's fucking tired. It was a long night.
And then this fucking guy's I'm insulting. Yeah, I get it,
I get it. It's like I'm already on my ropes
and I gave you a give and then your friends
are going to come in here with attitude. It's attitude
it's attitude.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Also, I'm like, where do they live? Can D D
be in the garage? Like? Can someone else host D?
They have a new baby? Yeah, they have a baby.
Why are you going to their house for D and D? Also,
I feel like people play it online.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Yta for thinking this insulting writes Hello farmer, Matilda Poppins
rites in my opinion, Now this is where it got interesting.
This I had. I had to dig for this comic
because most people said things like what you said, Oh
you should bring your own indoor shoes around with you
now n O p Slight defense. I think I lost
this comment. But op, he did say that he asked

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and he had mentioned it to the friend, so we
might we might ding the friend that he was like,
I do have this foot thing? Is that going to
be a problem? And the friend was like, no, I
won't be a problem. And I was like, why would
you That's not This sounds like a classic thoughtless man move,
like oh no, it won't be a problem, Like did
you actually think about what I said for a second?

Speaker 2 (47:06):
And then this also was like really sticking it into
the the mom being like, everyone leave my house if
you know you have a no shoes in the house thing.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
Yeah, your husband or partner, maybe daddy. I should know that.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
And if the friend asked the friends like I did
my due diligence to be like, should I bring shoes this?

Speaker 3 (47:25):
The dude friend was like no.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
If I was the mama, I'd be like, you told
me didn't have to bring it. Yeah, shut it down.
But you're saying I'm on mama's side.

Speaker 3 (47:38):
She got mad at her.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
She was getting mad at her husband more than at
this point than the friend shut the night down.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Like, if you forgot to tell your friend whose foot
bleeds upon touching, to bring inside shoes, I would be like,
you're getting in your friend's car, you're going to his house,
and you're both getting his indoor shoes because now he's
embarrassed and you deserve to escort him home. Like it's neither.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
It's neither the friend who came to visit with the
condition nor the mama's issue.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
It's the dad's decade. Yeah, bring them up, let's go.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
Okay, My final attack is actually on op and I
just am reading just this. Now. You guys might call
it a reach. He doesn't play a lot of D
and D. This is he's new to it. Do you
see that here? Alah, Okay, just something about causing his
wife to cancel the D and D session and that

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he was invited to a D and D session with
four other people. It's just nothing about this says that
this is regular or familiar, and so it's.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Not confirmed that the person writing it is not a
D and D person.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
No, No, that's just my interpretation based on that that
it doesn't feel like they're a D and D group,
Maybe that he was trying, maybe not for the first time,
and so so my thought is that on some level, yeah,
he didn't really want to fucking play the indie so
that's why he was like there was.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Even more in the same way it would come and
make a scene.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Then it feels like this person's very neurotic then, like
or is failing at friendship on many levels, which that
does like if he's not really that into D and D.
Here's this foot condition. It is very weird to me.
You don't just bring inside shoes, yeah, and in your air?
Are just have it in your trunk? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Hilasia twenty six hundred rights. So they have cats or dogs,
people who let pets track whatever around but freak out
at shoes are the asshole people who have babies and
some that are probably the asshole too. These folks never
learned that nothing is as clean as you think it is.
And that's okay. This's got negative hundred and seventy negative
seven hundred twenty one of votes like that.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
You know what, I agree with the animal thing, like
if your animals are inside outside animals, but you don't
want people tracking stuff in. There must be some other
reason why you don't want shoes in because your animals
are doing the thing you're saying.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
But when it comes to.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Babies, don't work around babies, big men, like you're gonna don't.
Don't if you're like everything's on clean, Yeah, everything's on clean.
I'm trying to keep it as clean.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
As so, like, just help me out. I have a baby,
very tired.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
So he wrote they do have a dog. That's his
only comment reply. Okay, and I got the fact that
he had asked before in an edit, which is kind
of sus because that means he was probably getting told
he was an asshole and a lot of the comments,
so then he went in and edited, Oh I did
text our friend group chat a few days ago about
my concerns with my condition because we changed the location
of the meat up to his house instead of mine.

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Alex reassured me that I shouldn't worry about it, so
I didn't bring my indoor shoes.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Back on husband, back on husband being the asshole, Yeah, yeah,
totally husband. I mean I was open to hearing about
OP being it sounds like op is neurotic.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
And but it was going to be at his house.
There goes my like first time via D thing that
seems a little crazy, like a group. Now I'm honestly
ready to say that it is the husband to at
least we agree for weeks. Are Antia for refusing to
take my shoes off my friend's house, calls his wife
to can't So the dn D session we're at not
the asshole and husband is.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Absolutely this is the first time we've all agreed on something.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Again.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
We should call and thank the husband you're acting careless
has brought us all together. Sorry, it really suffers that child.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
We're gonna wrap up on a fun one of folks.
A t for telling my coworker her baby looks like
Danny DeVito.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
My coworker came in last week the show off her newborn.
Everyone was telling her how cute he was, and it
was my turn. I said, wow, he's adorable, kind of
looks like a baby Danny DeVito. I generally meant it
as a compliment because I love Danny DeVito. The room
went dead silent. She grabbed the baby, and now she's
barely talking to me. Apparently she told h R I

(51:50):
was mocking her child, and now I'm wondering if I
crossed the line.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
A da oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
H brought into this baby being shown has nothing to
do with the workplace.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
I don't want to brag. I work in an office
and I'm a wow, absolutely useless hr is. I think
she is drunk, and I'm jealous that she's so drunk
at work. But like the fact that HR like for me,
the idea of HR stepping in, I'm like, that's insane.
My HR rep would be like livid, She'd be like

(52:20):
cussing you out, be like, did you understand I have
to drive over here today?

Speaker 1 (52:23):
That's so yeah, Danny DeVito, I just want a first
question of the line. I genuinely meant it as a
compliment because I love Danny DeVito.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Chris's delusion about their level exactly.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
I'm like, I love Danny DeVito, but that wasn't what
you said. You didn't say. Your baby reminds me of
Dandy Davito, looks.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Like if this is I feel like it doesn't really
matter if it's a man or woman. I feel like
if it's a man, it feels worse. If it's a woman,
I'm like, she's quirky. She doesn't know, like oh yeah,
yeah yeah, but like I will, I just imagine this
person being like Danny DeVito took in Marrow Wilson. Okay,
when Mark Wilson's family is going through a divorce, he
didn't have to do that. That's just the kind of man,

(53:06):
Danny Davite, you baby taking another baby.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
I think also parents get very like I think I
think that it's funny when babies are really like funny
looking yea, And I think that like parents who get
that and they're like, yeah, my baby looks weird, like
look at those eyebrows or look at his cheeks or whatever,
then it's like it's chill because like everyone's like every
baby's beautiful. I'm like, okay, sure in that, like they're
a miracle and it's wonderful. But like, not every baby

(53:35):
is like what people would think of, like, oh, a beautiful,
cute baby. And that's totally fine because I think most
babies look weird and.

Speaker 3 (53:41):
Then they grow normal and fine. They are given helmets.
I mean, my baby had a helmet.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Yeah, real flat head, but like and her flat was cute.
But I think that one thing that I want to really.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Phillips baby, Sorry you won't Phillips face is stupid phillips.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
I think that one thing that really irks parents is
if you if this baby was a little girl baby
and this person said this little girl baby looks like
I think that's like that would have brought it to
another level where they would have been really upset, which
I think is kind of funny.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
I think people care about how their baby looks. Even
though it was a funny comment. I think moms are tired. Also,
moms especially.

Speaker 3 (54:24):
Like and I think hormones are so insane.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Yeah, the hormones are insane, and I just think, like, look,
I love dating Divido too. He's funny, but it's not
a compliment. And you don't roast someone's baby.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
You just don't feel like like I don't have babies,
but like I feel like the baby, it's literally you
you made that baby, You're in the baby, and so
like I think at first you could be very like
do people like the baby? Like do people like me?

Speaker 1 (54:55):
You know?

Speaker 3 (54:56):
And so like yeah, I could see somebody well and
like I feel to laugh at the baby makes sense
like almost like a year later looking at looking like,
look how crazy you looked. But I think that like
I have, I had two kids.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
My one kid, when he was a baby, like looked
like a perfect little lumber baby. Like everyone's like, oh
my gosh. Like my agent was like, can I wrap
this baby? Like very very beautiful, like traditionally like beautiful
looking kid. My second baby looked more like weird, you know,
like she was still like cute, but like she didn't
you couldn't tell what she was going to look like.

(55:28):
My first baby's like you you can tell that's a
human being who's gonna look like And then my second one,
like it was very hard to understand what her look
was going to be. And also like she didn't have
a lot of hair and stuff like that, and I
was like, yeah, she kind of like it's fine, like
she like and people always thought she was a boy
and like it was just like everything, but I didn't.
It didn't bother me because I was like, that's good.

(55:49):
I don't care, right, Like, this baby's healthy, she's happy,
it's good.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Yeah, she's super funny. Even as a baby, she had
like a little quirky, like weird laughs and stuff like.
It was like great.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
But I think also like I was in a good Yeah,
my partner was very supportive and loving, like all these
different things. So I had all that going from So
that's like the least of my issue. Yeah, she also
had some sickness stuff, so I was like, I don't
care what she looks like.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
I wanted to be happy, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
But I think like if you have your hormones going everywhere,
if maybe like you're having a hard time at home
with your partner and maybe you're going into work and
like this person going to work to show the baby,
like in America, it's hard because you only get like
six weeks off and you have to go back to work.
Maybe they were like worried about like there's.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Just it's been a month and a half. Just get
the work.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Yeah, like you'll love that way.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
So I think that there's just so many things going on.
I also, though, think that the person was not trying
to roast the baby. I think this person was genuinely
just like there was recognize that that would be like
not nice to say, and didn't think about it. So
I don't think they had bad intentions like look at
this baby, looks like Dannity v doo.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
I think they were like, oh my god, it's so cute.
What a little funny face.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
I agree with you there it was. It was not
meant maliciously. It was kind of funny and lighthearted. But
the HR thing I don't like. I think that is
very narky and like, you don't go to HR with that.
What you say is, uh, you know, chur truce. You
made this comment about Danny de Vito. You know it
rubbed me wrong. Oh my god, I'm so sorry. I

(57:14):
didn't mean it in that way. That was what a
stupid thing to say.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Yes, I also inside, all right, baby looks like Danny
DeVito in your head.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
You tell your friends later like, oh my god, it's
not the cutest baby exactly.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
That's for back. What's I called talking behind someone's back
back of the room, Like, so I do think, op,
it was a miss. It was not a malicious miss,
but it was just a miss. But telling HR to
me is too much. It's overkilled work issues. This person
was coming to show their baby, so they're not.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Even that basically, they're not like teacher, like they just
put a movie on.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
She said. And my coworker came in last week to
show off her newborn, So I don't know if that's necessarily.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
So they're not even at work. I'm gonna get H.
I'm assuming her her hormones are insane.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
She showed her off. Yeah, but potentially just like photos
or she doesn't say she has the new boy. Oh
I see necessarily.

Speaker 3 (58:08):
Oh, it wasn't with her, that's different.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
I think going to I'm sorry, Cottie. I can't give
a prego pass on that or a new pass. Going
to HR is so narky and it's just like, dude,
just say it. OHP should have said sorry and read
the room like, oh my bad, didn't didn't mean it
like that, like your joke.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
A lot.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
HR is a lot, So HR is too much. And
for these reasons, antab telling my coworker baby looks like
Danny DeVito, regardless of the truth, of the matter. I
actually do believe op that that's a little Danny de
Vitito right there, little tiny Danny de Vito. But I'm
not everyone sucks here and sucks. Yes. I feel like
if I made this joke and it's zeroed right, it's zero,

(58:52):
I would have gone up immediately after. I've been like, hey,
I'm so sorry. I didn't mean like that. Your baby's
super cute, like you should have read the room there.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Yeah, I don't think I mean again, this is my
general stance on most things. It's like, I don't think
this person sounds like they were unreasonable or being an asshole.
They were genuinely trying to be like, oh that's funny
and cute and like whatever. And it was a miss
is what I would say it. I don't think that
constitutes that this person was an asshole. I think that if.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
The mom an apology.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
I think if the mom had.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Been like, oh that that sucks, yeah, then she did
this joke, gotten nothing. But she didn't say anything, so
you need her to say what. She just left the
room went dead silent, she grabbed the baby, and now
she's buried.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
The baby is there also, which is a key thing.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
The room went oh, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
I think that that well, maybe maybe they could have
gotten apologized, But like I think, I don't know. I
just don't think this person was an asshole. I think
the person maybe just had a miss and was like, oh,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
I guess that.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
If someone storms off, doesn't that communicate that you did something?

Speaker 2 (59:55):
Maybe maybe they should have just been like, hey, sorry,
was that weird?

Speaker 1 (59:59):
There is there is as a rule of a I
t A or a model of a t A, which is,
if you owe the other person apology, that makes you
the asshole.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Okay, I'm going to say that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
So under that rule, hold on, I'd like to get
Iyesho on this one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
If he wants, you know, he wants to know that
he's right, would you say to know that I'm coming
to his side.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
No, it's not my side, it's the side of truth
and justice. Wouldn't you say that at that point before
the HR, the OP was the asshole and should have
said something.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
I think by the terms of if you owe an apology,
I think yes, then I think that that they could
have gone and been like, hey, that felt weird. Did
I offend you? I'm sorry? Yeah, whatever, Yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Now you're the backtrack because you're right, it is weird
because now we know the baby was there, so we
got that fact wrong because she grabbed the baby and
then she went to HR. Anyway, I mean, to me,
that doesn't really change it. That just means we could
assume they were not at work with a baby.

Speaker 3 (01:00:53):
I feel like they were at work. They were, she was,
he was visiting you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
When you're he's born during your matt leave, you bring
the baby everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
So it sounds like it was a new baby.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
To me, that doesn't change anything for me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
I'm I like, I'm gonna give her I think going
to HR is stupid, But I also I'm like, it
sounds like she was upset, So I'm going to let
it pass and I'm going to say, oh, P is
the asshole. I don't know. I'm not saying they're an
asshole forever, but I'm saying they are an asshole in
this situation situation, and that that way they learn, that
way they learn.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Yes, although I do, I just want to put this
in writing. Everyone get out of your pens. That going
to HR to me is an insane thing to situation
because if you're coming you're not even at work. You're
just bringing your baby by whatever that has nothing to
do with work. And HR if I was hi' to

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be like, are you kidding me? Why am I being
called into this?

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I think that she has a right to be like, oh,
that hurt my feelings and that seems like callous and
me and to just be like I didn't like that,
you know, but all of this HR stuff to me
is like an insane.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
Like psycho narc move auntie. Every time my coworker her
baby looks like Danny DeVito. Therefore, I SHA and I
are aligned. Everyone sucks here. Okay, yeah, yes, my body,
you don't have to come with us.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
I'm not gonna go with And I'm gonna say I
agree it's insane, but I feel like mom is insane
right now. That's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Yeah, I can only give so much of a new
baby pass not to go into the north of town.
You can't be calling Ice, oh just a little baby
so cold Ice. No, you're a fucking monster.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Well, don't call Ice ever ever. No, Yeah, just to
put this says, let's deport Rogan.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Anyways, you're at White TA, she's white A and the
new baby isn't, and this new baby isn't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Yeah, she's she. I would say she's she has a
pass for me. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Wow, guys, we found some alignment. I mean the fact
that me and me and Iisha are on a team.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
This is a wild thing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
I'm gonna call my mom. Guys, thanks for joining us.
It's been a wild ride. We'll see you next time. Bye.