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September 15, 2025 47 mins
Happy mon mon hun huns. I am joined by Sara Levine for one heckuva ep recorded in Queens in NEW YORK CITY (She's walkin' there!!!). Enjoy ahoy (i hate that but it's too late, I said). 

(0:00) - Banter
(16:32) - AITA for asking my GF to shut up after a minor car accident?
(29:34) - AITA for saying 'I'm sorry to hear that'?
(38:34) - AITA for asking my current wife to stop body-shaming my ex-wife?

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi everybody. Look with the A I T A pod.
I'm Danny Vega, joined by the co host with the Cobos. Hello,
we're here at Sarah's place in Queens. I'm in New
York City, so yeah, it's great to be here. I know,
it's good to see you.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I realized in the bonus, I was like, we haven't
podcasted together in years, and I was like, that's not true.
We podcasted together like right after I got engaged, because
friends like really nice apartment.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Ah, that's right. That was in October last year, so
it's been less than one year long.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Yeah, but yeah, you haven't. I feel like we haven't
podcasted at my apartment in a while. Yeah, because for
a while it was like not conducive to podcasting at all.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
It sent me on like this mental images of all
your past apartments.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I think you've only went to two? Well, well three?
Well you probably went to my Upper East Side one,
did you.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I guess I've seen it in the zooms.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
True, that's very true.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I think the most memorable location we did was balcony
on oh.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
My god, here like the subway below. Yeah that was
a good one. Oh man, good times.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
But yeah, it's going to be back. I mean, I'm wiped,
I'm tired, but I'm going for it. I like, this
is a trip where I was like, I'm gonna hang
out with this person. I'm gonna hang out with this person. Yeah,
and I'm gonna do this and that and here we are.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, we did our We have a two part dessert crawl.
We have been on part one. Yeah, and then we'll
do the post because I felt like we went to
some days which is more of pastries. Yes, break like
breakfast pastries is really interesting ones. And then I live
above another bakery that I don't want to say because
I don't want to docks myself. There we go, but
that they do have breakfast pastries, but I feel like

(01:39):
they're more known for like the cakes and the cookies
Italian cookies, Rainbow cookies. So yeah, so that will be
the post perfecto. Maybe at some point we eat real food.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
I love it. I love it. Yeah, I have to
do Piscillo. That's my favorite sandwichop in New York City.
There's a couple ofcations. You know it, no huge Italian subs.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
But you know what you would like, you would really
love sou christ and Charlie's. It's like gigantic subs.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Sounds like a similar energy.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, big similar time.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Food is great here. You know we took the La,
took the Mexican.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's true.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's a New York took Italian big time. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
So it's the real culture wars.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the culture war they don't tell
you about. Yeah. And yeah, it's wedding. You're you're getting
married soon. People are asking some other friends are asking,
actually when is it?

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Actually, I do have to say the day for you.
Remind me. I'll just give to you.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah. I'm actually having anxiety because I have another wedding
in March in Mexico. No, there's four weekends, right.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
What Yeah, it's a twenty eighth. I'll give you a I.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Don't think it's a twenty eighth. Okay, we're checking. Now
here we go, Oh no, here we go live on
the March twenty twenty six. March twenty twenty six. Oh no,
oh no, did I put it in here? I'm not
seeing it. Did I even put it in here? Oh
my god, I would have it in here. Oh my god,
I haven't seen it. We're at the twenty seventh Okay,

(03:04):
it looks like I just didn't put it in.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Scary I do I get first calendar rights. We'll see.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
I feel like it's slightly earlier. I feel like it's
the weekend of the twelve or something. Please God, so bad.
It's my friend I went to high school with. So
it's like a deep cut. But I didn't even say it.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
So well, okay, so they can't mean that much to you,
So well that's exciting. Yeah, well we've been taxting. I
texted you some leg lengthening lore.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
God that like haunted me. I know about this procedure,
and I know they break your legs.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
They break your legs. If you're really trying to max it,
they break your legs twice.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
They break it like break Maxing, like break Maxine.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
First year what. I don't know the names of the bones,
so you can get at me anatomy people. But whatever
they broke you, they can add like I think they
can add three inches to your lower I'm what that is?
Your right? Whatever the leg bones, you get it. Yeah,
but yeah, you know, I'm mister five eight, and I

(04:10):
recognized by the way that you know five ight. It's
a beautiful height and I'm very grateful for what I have,
of course, and I understand it's hard. I understand it's
hard to be a five and six male, five of
five male. It's hard.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I've definitely dated some guys that I was almost eye
level with, and I'm like, that's it's got to be
hard for them. And I doing. One guy was a
huge fucking asshole to me, and I was like, all right,
just goes to show.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah, you know they're out there. I do, I do.
I am against this. I'm against it. I think it's sick.
I think it's very.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Oh the surgery, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
I think it's too much for me. I think it's
it's extremely dangerous and it's extremely rot with complications.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
It is actually like, I know, we used to be
on a kick of like we shouldn't call things insane,
but I'm like, no, but this, this is actually insane.
Especially when you were looking at how much you're adding,
You're like, you're not becoming six feet, you're adding like
three inches.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Well it's yeah, you could add six inches.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Six yeah, at what costs? It's crazy, exactly, It's crazy.
It's what costs me.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
I mean, the numbers here are beyond horrible. If your
friend told you they were getting any cosmetic surgery and
that it had a at the bottom end, I think
it's seventeen percent.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
That's high.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
At the high end, thirty three percent complication rate.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
That's hoigh.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
In other words, you're gonna you're very likely to have
a problem, a surgically significant problem, say nothing of the
fact that you are almost certain to have other kinds
of problems, which are just that like, yeah, you just
broke your bones, Like you're probably not going to walk
the same, Like you might still be able to walk,
you might even still be able to run, but like
you're asking for so much freaking trouble to be taller.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah, I would say has science gone too far? I
would say it's gone too far. A lot of plastic surgery.
I'm just like, I don't know. I'm just like the
minute quote unquote flaws that we have now made up
to sell people a surgery. It's crazy. Even like Filler,

(06:15):
like they were like, oh, it's just fine. Your body
normally produces higher luronic acids, so we're just gonna inject
some more into your face and it's totally safe and
you can dissolve it and it'll stay put. None of
that is true. Turns out none of that's like you
can't you can maybe dissolve it. It's not fool proof,
and it totally migrates like, I don't know, it's just nuts.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, I mean, you know, there's certainly I'm not going
to say that it's wrong to get cosmetic surgery, but
I have to say, if you're going to the lengths
of leg lengthening, no, no, no, you're going too far.
But anyway, I thought this was actually really this one
just I was like, oh no, tell me you didn't
do this, bro, and tell me that she's not in
on it. So the name of this article is called

(06:57):
being short as a curse. The men paying thousands to
get their legs broken, and you can't do it in
the US when people travel, because it's obviously a lot cheaper.
It was on his honeymoon and Kuala Lumpar, looking out
his hotel window at the silvery points of the world
sauce twin skyscrapers, Frank decided it was because it was
time to become taller. And for me, this right away,

(07:18):
I was just like, I cannot think of a more
nuclear red flag then you're on your honeymoon, so it's
almost like I got you. Now, Hey, babe, guess what
I want to do? Spend thirty two thousand dollars to
severely tweak my body?

Speaker 2 (07:31):
No, well, that's what's weird to me, like not to
be so reductive and whatever. But I'm just kind of like,
why do men want to become dollar? Yes, of course,
like insecurities are internal blah blah blah, but it's like,
I don't know. I feel like the real reason is
because it's harder to date, right, Like harder to date
women if you're short. Yeah, Like I don't know, that's
overly simplistic and you know whatever. But I'm just like,

(07:52):
you already have the life, like you're kind of good man.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Go to therapy, don't spend it.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Granted, men will literally spend thirty two thousand dollars and
break their legs before going to therapy, so true.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
Crazy, but yeah, for me, springing this on the honeymoon
is just so insanely toxic. I'm like, how do you
not bring this up? I mean, it's really no different
than having thirty two grand of debt. Oh, like you're
about to drop this insane amount of money, you know,
and it did affect their life, by the way. It
wasn't like this guy was rich. Okay, oh no kidding
the way they sold this Amelia is this victim in

(08:24):
my view, I mean she was fine to me.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
It seems like a like a pathological not pathological, but
like a cool girl to her own detriment.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, exactly, it's come on me.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Not even pick me, but yeah, it's just giving. Like again,
now you're married, you can drop the act of I'm
chill and nothing bothers me.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Ah, Ryan, he found out too late. I'm just kidding, get.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
But yeah, has put so they said here, it's put
a major down in the funds of newlyweds had planned
to use as a down payment for a mortgage, so
quite literally affecting their life.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Oh shit.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
When I ask about this, and Meli describes how months
of travel across Asia gave them a new the couple
began to think they're placing too much importance on material
things rather than aiming for true contentment, having food, a
comfortable bed, that's real happiness.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Emilia says, all right, girl, you got you got backwards
eat prey love like I don't know what kind of
psychological warfare this sky waged on you? But that is
not what that should be about.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
That's wild to me. Yeah, and there it did mention
in this article. There are women who do the procedure.
There's also people who do the reverse. Want to be shorter, strange.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
That's crazy. They fuse your bones together, Yeah, give me
the bone. Well no, then I'm still breaking my legs.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Yeah, we had the brains. You're a good night. Who cares?

Speaker 2 (09:38):
I don't care. I'm a girl.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
You're one of those people like that. I'm always surprised
at you're five too, because that is very short, But
in my brain, you're a normal size.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Is other comic. Every time I have him on a show,
he's like, I'm always surprised you're so short. You seem taller,
And I'm like, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Because you have confidence a lot of it's a lot
of it. It's a mental game. I mean, yeah, I've
known extremely tall men who are a little t any guys. Yeah,
you know, because they're so desperate for attention and insecure.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, I mean, people say it's easier to be a
short woman than a tall woman. My experience, though, I
feel like whenever I would go out with my friends,
like my tall friends would always be the one's getting
attention and I would always be like, I'm down here, hello.
I don't know, it's weird, like.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Everybody has you're more intimidating because I'm short.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, I guess I know everybody has their things, and
you know I would, but yeah, height is one of
those things where it's like you shouldn't try to change
it unless you want to take like growth hormones when
you're a kid, like some I know people who do
that when when you're like really really small and the
patrician is like, maybe just get them on that HGH
or whatever. Yeah, but I don't know, it's it's much.

(10:43):
It's a little much. It's a lot much for me.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, I mean I could be broad on board maybe
if you were a five foot tall guy, but like,
I mean, I feel like I feel like, look, men,
women are cursed with having to deal with men, the
most shallow creatures that exists. And I believe, I do
believe that. I mean, and to be fair to give
my boys a little bit of defense, I do think
men are a little bit more wired that way. I

(11:05):
think we can be adjusted but like a little bit
a little bit wired to be more shallow. But like, yeah,
I'm like, if you're a man, if you're lucky enough
to be a man and you're short, then earned and
earn it, you know, be a better man. You don't
need to fucking be That's well. My one friend felt
this is justice just she's like what She's like, men

(11:27):
do so much to put pressure on women to change
your bodies, so she was like, I'm happy. But I
was like, Okay, that's weird, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
That's a very toxic revenge reality.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Well, and I'm like, in the context of this, where
you know, it's like you screwed over your wife, I'm
kind of like, well, why is she had to be
the victim?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Though, yeah, yeah, I don't think the answer to like
all the centuries of terrable beauty standards is to like
then put it on men, right, because they're not going
to learn, they're not going to be like, oh, maybe
we should abolish this. It's just going to like more
intense and like spiral into this craziness like how people like, oh,
but men are under like so much pressure to be muscular.
It's like, no, have you met a woman. Have you

(12:08):
met a woman and talked to her and been like,
what types of men are you attracted? Like nobody's like,
oh I need this like crazy bodybuilder. Like no, respectfully,
if you want to do that, like go do it,
but for it, don't do it because you think every
woman needs someone who has like zero percent body fat
and like all muscles.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
I've googled this a lot because also it takes a
lot of work to be a bodybuilder, and it says
women are trying to fit fit body type Yeah not
even Oh maybe ripped is fine, but like you don't
need to be huge.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
You don't need Also, like we have a dad bot
and that is a thing, but like no guy is
like I mean not no guy. But there was not
a movement of men being like, actually we love a
mom bod. So like, fuck you, you have a holder.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I've seen that. I've seen that. Sweet. It's like it's
basically about us a girl like a little bit of
a pouch stomach.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
No is that like from a pulp fiction? Oh no wait,
that's the girl saying that she likes pot billies. No. See,
I'm like, you guys have it. You have all the
body diversity. You want we don't get to have that.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, that's wait, but what was the tweet? No, the
tweet's positive. I mean it's kind of like guys love
this belly or it was like okay, good get framed
in a way where like women are trying to get
rid of it and guys like it.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Oh good, okay, let us have it. Yeah, everybody have
their things whatever.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, I mean for me, this is write is so
blatantly toxic. For this guy to spring it on the honeymoon,
I think that's really sinister. Boy.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, wild, Yeah, I want to know what was said
to her. I'm like, you in danger girl, Amelia or whatever. Yeah,
I don't know what kind of crazy, gas lighty shit
he said to make her cool with this.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Right, see babe? It's all we need is a bed
and food and what about the fact that we're in
a different country. Yeah, uh, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
And rods inserted into my legs?

Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, crazy, you're stopping by turkey. Well, I sent you this,
and I thought you read it because your reaction maybe
think you read it, so don't read it?

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Did you send it to me?

Speaker 1 (14:01):
I send it to you so you guys can google this.
It's an awesome article, really fascinating story.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
But the the oh, well you just said the Guardian article.
I did send it, yeah, okay, I just didn't know
what it was called.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
So the long short, I'm calling it the North Pond Hermit.
You can google that. But basically, in nineteen eighty six,
a twenty year old named Christopher Knight was actually the
name of my friend coincidentally, that's funny, vanished into the
main woods. He said, I had no plans. I just
did it. And after a while he like dis abandoned
his life. And I think he went to a good school,
like he had a future, but he said, no, I
want to live in the woods. Hunger made him steal.

(14:34):
Twenty seven years, he lived basically in the woods, and
he would steal from people's like cabins, never slept indoors,
surviving brutal winners. So he took on this name, the
North Pond Hermit, because you know, people would come home
and they'd see like, oh, half my frudity bebbles are gone.
Yeah they put it together. Yeah, But he wouldn't steal valuables,
just food, so he was kind of you know, people
didn't hate him. He was caught at twenty thirteen, and

(14:58):
somebody asked, you know, well, what did advice would you
give after twenty seven years of stark solitude? And this
has made me think of you. He just said, get
enough sleep?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (15:08):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (15:08):
That's actually so many because I just didn't realize the
title of it didn't make the connection. But it's funny
because I sent you like so much commentary about it,
and you thinking I hadn't read it, you must have
been like, wow, Sarah was really good at playing this
off like unlike me pretending to know about the Celtics.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
Wait, you sent me commentary.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
I sent you like so much commentary about it, like
what I feel like? I at the end especially, I
was like what the fuck? Like, I was so mad
about it.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
I don't think you sent me that much commentary.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Like I was definitely in a movie at the time.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
I miss it when you sent it to me.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
But I sent you like some commentary about it.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, I think you just said.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
He just said, Yeah, you wrote, ooh, we'll read okay,
what the fuck? Oh that's all I said? It's ic
Oh okay, Well whatever, I did read it. That's so funny.
It was also interesting because they would you know the
people in the community would put out food baskets for
this guy, right, but he wouldn't take it because he
would think it was a trap.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, he was literally, so get more sleep, people, And I.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Can't believe it.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
I love it. Oh my god, I've got a fun
little f for you guys today, our second story of
the day. ATA for saying I'm sorry to hear that.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Curious, isn't it? Yep? But first, folks, my jokes. This
one's this one's very juicy, great little fine by Sarah.
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for asking my girlfriend to please shut up and save
it for later. After a minor car accident, I thirty
two am was driving with my girlfriend thirty three f

(16:41):
in the passenger seat at night. Don't normally drive at night,
but we were out later than expected. My car has
this defect where sometimes a driver's side headlight does not work.
Since about a year now, my girlfriend typically drives more
than I do at night, but she has her own car,
but she've been telling me to fix my headlamp. I
guess this is more in case she needed to borrow
it when hers is being service an actual concern. No,

(17:03):
the one time that happened, she blamed me for her
needing to rent a car because of my light. It's
not that I wasn't going to do just that, you know.
It wasn't that pressing bro Anyway, this chick veered into
my lane from the oncoming lane to pass a tractor
and she ended up sidewiping my car, causing damage at
the front cornor panel. I felt like my headlight was
working at the time, but stopped after she crashed into me. However,
she immediately claimed it was not working and that she

(17:25):
thought I was a motorcycle. I explained that they only
stopped working due to the crash. The cops arrived and
I explained the same, and she was making a scene,
claiming the motorcycle thing, but they seemed to believe me
and wrote the report and gave her a ticket. While
we were waiting at the side of the road and
the cops were speaking to her, my GF, who loves
any opportunity to say I told you so, started telling
me that I should have fixed the light like she asked.

(17:46):
I shushed her and she would not stop and told
her to shut up and zip it to her home.
The situation was going well for us, since the cops
believe me and felt was incredibly stupid of her to
say stuff that might be overheard by the police and
change matters for the worst. She's now upset and acting cold.
I've tried to explain that I was open to hearing her,
but just after the cops and other driver were gone, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Okay, Well this is like, first of all, this guy
being like, oh, my girlfriend is just telling me to
change my broken headlight just for her own personal like
funzies more than genuine concern. I'm like, no, she's telling
you because that's not legal, Like, you can't drive around
with broken headlights.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
It's illegal and it's dangerous. Yeah, Like, it's quite wild.
You need the lights on the car.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
It's not just because she's like wants it cosmetically right, Like, Bro, oh,
this has been over a year. Oh, I'll get a
round to it.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Has it been over a year?

Speaker 2 (18:42):
He said, has this defect for about a year now?
I'm like, that's crazy, bro, it's actually crazy that you've
never gotten pulled over so long. This fucking guy.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Yeah, that's pretty Minichael. That's said what she did. The
other driver was very crazy, as.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, you can't just like go into oncoming traffic just
because you think you are bypassing a motorcycle and not
a car. That's crazy, that's completely nuts.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
As someone who is literally almost killed every single day
on the streets of Walston and begging people to not
do that and do stuff like that and check twice,
I have to say I've been. I've been. I'm begging
for people. One great piece of driving advice look the
way you're going, look the way that This has to
be said, Well, this is when people are making a
right turn, they look left and then they start to

(19:30):
go forward without looking the way they're going.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, that's when you hit.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
A pedestrian because oh you didn't expect a pedestrian. Well
we exist, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Especially in La though I feel like I walked. I
was staying with my friend one time, I walked zero
point two miles to the CBS like shopping center thing.
I had to cross one busy road and like there
were no stoplights or anything like that, and the cars
are just looking at me like I was insane. I
was like, what do you want me to do uber, Yeah,
like four hundred feet, Like.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Wow, that's how it is. Yeah, I think I do think.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Yeah, I can't believe this person's like was like, oh,
I want to pass this person. I'm going to go
into oncoming traffic.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Because to pass and you're passing a motorcycle, it's so dangerous.
You can't.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I'm like, you can't ever do that. That That should
have never had a thought that you had in your head.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
That was a wild move. I mean, that's a crazy,
crazy move.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
That is nuts.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
So then this the thing is she's right, the girlfriend's right,
I back her, and a year is too long. But
to have the lack of discretion to say it by
the police. There's even a rule. So like let's say
we go to a party, okay, and we we were
just talking shit about the party hosts, you know mm hmm,

(20:41):
or like Jack and Jill there's such fucking assholes.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, always going up the hill to fetch a pillow water.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
The pel and the water and the hill. We get it,
and we're kind of you know, like we'd make eye
contact during the party, like, oh my fucking god. Yeah,
But there's a psychological rule I feel, and most people
obey this rule is so say we drove together, we
would get in the car. Now realistically no one can
hear you in the car, but you don't start talking
shit even in the car. You drive away a little bit.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta go a little bit.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
They don't have years in the parking lot, but you
just need to be away. Yes, they can somehow and
spiritually and energetically. It's risky.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I agree. Yeah, you just gotta drive away little bit.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Gota drive away a little bit. Yeah, you would not
in the parking lot, like, wait till you're out of
the parking lot. Yeah, you know, so I agree.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
I agree because even though the girlfriend is right, and
even though like the boyfriend totally did something wrong, I
don't think it even if his headlight was working or regardless, like,
it doesn't change that the drive. The other driver shouldn't
have tried to pass by going into oncoming traffic like
that to me is the original sin. That to me
is I'm not an insurance register, but yeah, like that's nuts.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
I mean, I'm like, you thought it was a motorcycle,
so you did the most insane maneuver.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
No, like no, And it's also you could still hit
someone on the motorcycle, like yes, and you.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Don't want to say if that makes it feel? Like
when I remember I'm riding my bike on the streets
of LA which I I mean, I'm talking about sparingly
do It's like, can you not pass me? Accelerate past
me with two feet of clearance? Can you maybe not?

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah? Scary?

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah, I'm like, why don't you like go into the
other lane a little bit and not rip it when
you go past, like speed up once your past me.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, it's terrifying. Yeah, I try not. I don't do
that like around bikers, Like you go into the other lane,
you wait until you're pass because I don't want to
hit you, Like that would be the worst. Like hitting
another car, I mean is terrible, but one thing. But
like if you hit someone who's just like raw dog
in the streets out there, like that's that's way scarier.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
It's terrifying, to be fair, though. I yelled at some
bikers recently, Oh what they do? The three bikers on
Echo Park Ave, which is like right where I live,
and I am doxing myself apparently, and they're fucking in
the road. They're riding as a threesome. And they're holding
up traffic.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
No, no, no, and I'm so annoying y'all.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
It's first of all, perfectly legal to ride your bike
on the sidewalk, and Ally County people won't like you.
They won't like it. Yeah, it's legal because the streets
are death trap and it's known. And I'm like, yeah,
you guys are being dicks, like, yeah, let traffic pass you.
It's accumulating behind you. Yeah, that's you're on a well traveled,
fast road.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
That one person, that first person behind all the bikers
is probably getting like so much fucking shit and honking
from the people behind him who think he's just driving
at two miles an hour because they can't see. Yes, yes, no,
I don't like that.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
And to me, that's the same thing. It's like, look,
we all live in LA. It's obviously not well designed.
New York is much better about this, But it's like,
don't you know, don't just because technically, well technically we
can do it. Well yeah, technically you can, and technically
there's nothing wrong with passing a bike going forty five
miles per hour. But it's like, you're fucking our shit up.
You're terrifying me. Yeah, and this biker versus car war

(23:47):
is screwing us. The motorcycles, in my view, are on
the biker side. It's a very exposed vehicle.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, no, I agree, I mean you should like it's
I'm just you can never go into honcoming traffic, like
there's no reason.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
You got to be super super careful and you abort,
you abord if there's anyone there in the lane, you abord.
You don't never pass the motorcycle, you.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I guess, yeah, not never. But I'm just like, if
you're on one of those like long like one high
like one lane country roads, take me home, blah blah,
but you know, and there's like a fucking you're you're
in front of like one of those haybale thingies that
move so slow, and you're just like good God. So
then yeah, you could go into coming traffic. Yeah, but
if there's a if there's a vehicle there, you don't go.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
You don't go. Don't do risky stuff when you drive crazy.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
So yeah, so I the girlfriend, I think look should
have had more discretion. I agree with him to not
talk about it right in front of the cops, because
it's like that person shouldn't have done that anyway, he
should have obviously fixed the headlight. But now like you're
in a situation where the insurance could make it like
fifty to fifty at fault when I don't think it

(24:54):
should be. You know, insurance loves to do hit.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Oh of course, of course they're gonna pay you little
as I can. Yeah, Yta, top comment, I think your
go iMac. This is not responsible vehicle ownership. You need
to fix your headlight. GFS right, the lady who got
you as an asshole. But that's irrelevant. No, it's not right.
She shouldn't be going into oncoming traffic. If there's any vehicle,
it would have been dangerous even if it were a motorcycle.
But you need to fix your car.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
No, I don't agree.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
A classy ghost fix your fing car. You're danger to
other drivers, has proven, Yta, you're acting like an idiot.
But I'm like, well, yeah, but it's a lot less
of a sin to drive around without a headlight than
it is to near pass a motorcycle at high speed.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Like that's crazy, it's not irrelevant, it's not irrelevant. Irrelevant, Esa,
she should fix your car.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
You're putting other lives in danger. She should shut up
until the cops leave. Other driver probably sucks the most,
tbah because what the hell was a plan if you
were a motorcycle just run the bike off the road.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
That's so true, exactly.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah, this is just bogersome. I mean, And to defend
the three bikers that were flying information there in that
little blocking the road. One of the reasons the bikers
do that is because they don't want to get high
speed passed. So if they.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Block it, you block and nobody can pass.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Exactly. But it's like, well, now you're making the cars
hate us, So it's yeah, it's a kind.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Of we're having this bicycle versus car war when it
should really be everybody a versus cyber truck.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, right, exactly exactly. It was wildly and discreet, that's it.
It kind of sounds like the cops didn't hear. I
actually feel like OP got really lucky, and I there
is a model of aita where it's who is next
to apologize, and I do kind of feel like it's
on OP. I'm like, ye, if now if girlfriend had

(26:40):
if something had actually happened, for inance, like she had
said this, and then the cops were like, oh, Okay,
we're gonna write you take it then too.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Then I'd be like, girl, I think a ticket is
not is what he deserves. But I think if it
became a thing where like the insurance starts, you know,
fucking things, and then his premiums go up, like that
would be annoying.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
Well just be like, who's so are you on honey, Like,
are we on the same team here or what? This
guy obviously is not rich. He's making out to be
a cost issue. Yeah, but the fact is she said it.
It made him uncomfortable because it was near the cops. Yeah,
but nothing actually happened, and so I'm like, yeah, and
then you upset her because you didn't really own it.
Now you're kind of like, oh, well just would no,

(27:19):
But you need to be like, babe, you're right, you're right. Yeah,
you're right. I was wrong. I fucked up. And in
this idea of mine, which says the person who must
apologize in the wake of the conflict, it does therefore
conclude and maybe he supports something which would maybe I
have to walk it back, Sarah, even though what the
other person did was dangerous. There is a Sarah model

(27:40):
of the I TA which would say she's an irrelevant
third party. What she did is I don't.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Think she's a I don't think she's irrelevant because she
is the reason. Wait, the girlfriend or the crasher, the yes,
the crash. I'm like, they're the reason we had this,
They're the reason they're in that whole situation.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yes, but when well, I hate to go back on
our case.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Law here not alafair, because that I was like, that
was so previous. I'm like, this is all part of
parcel of one incident that they were all part of together.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
That's fair. They were all part and parcel with this
one incident. However, the fact that she did something very
dangerous and risky to me is just functioning as the
inevitable fate of when you drive around with one headlights.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Something would have happened, something would have happened.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
The girlfriend was right, and because of this, I view
this fundamentally as a conflict between the boyfriend and the girlfriend.
These reasons, I am at yt Hey.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Wow, interesting, Okay, I like I understand that interpretation. I
actually feel this is the cleanest esh we've ever had.
The driver is the asshole, the boyfriend is the asshole.
The girlfriend is being socially inept right now as well?

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Okay, I can live with that, all right, that's reasonable.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Like literally everybody, even the cops because they're cops. No,
just kidding.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
But but he owed her the apology. Are you with me?

Speaker 2 (28:52):
There? Right? She was right, She's right.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
She was right. She was inapt but her inaptitude was
not a problem. It was just uncomfortable.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, no, she's right. I agree. I agree with you.

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Speaker 1 (29:34):
Ai t A for saying I'm sorry to hear that.
I thirty five them. Have been planning an outing with
a group of friends for a while. We're busy, so
a wine tour then dinner took effort for scheduling.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Ooh fun.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
One of our friends thirty f texted me the day
before stating she's ill and not feeling well, so she
can't go. No real issue. I ate the cost for
her spot prefixed dinner. I responded with, hey, sorry to
hear that, no worries, get some rest, feel better soon.
No response since then. She ghosted me when I text
said asking if she feels better. According to mutuals, she
thought my message was callous. What I assume she is

(30:06):
just upset. I didn't reschedule the whole event, but that
seems unreasonable to me. It took months to plan, has
the saying change, and I'm unaware we'll all be meeting
again as a group. I hate walking on eggshells around
a person, but don't want to apologize for no reason either.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
A TA, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (30:20):
I'm sorry to hear that?

Speaker 2 (30:21):
I thought it was like if this had been a
guest the verdict. I thought that would have been like, hey,
you know, you mortally insulted me, and the person was like,
I'm sorry to hear that. You feel offended? Yeah, not
like oh I'm sick. Oh sorry to hear?

Speaker 1 (30:35):
What what do you want me to say?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Okay, if you have the flu and you coughed on
this person last week. Yeah, why she's sick.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
So I think I fished out this take before. I'm
not sure men do it. I know I wouldn't though, Okay,
And the take is basically sometimes like on a dating app,
this just happened. Hey, how was your weekend? I asked?
She goes, ah, sick, a headache, and so now I'm
finally feeling better. I'm like, can you put it together

(31:06):
a little bit? Just like there's a way you can
trivially reframe this to be like, oh, I had a
good weekend. I watched you know, top Gun. I don't
know why she's watching top Gun, but I watched Bridesmaids?

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Like do we need two genders?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
But like, yeah, it's it's I would say, it's a
the way she did it wasn't that unreasonable? No, But
I have dated people who would be like, I have
a headache. What what do you presume that I should
do about that? You were an adult? There are solutions
for headaches. It's called drink water. Haven't I beprofen?

Speaker 2 (31:41):
It's called I tell Ryan about it, and then I
take my proven.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Oh so you do tell him that's a Jewish thing.
I feel you're pleading Jewish.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
On that one we got to plead Jewish.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
She got a Jewish card.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
I'm just like, you're just like, I'm tired, I have
a headache. Yeah, I just complained a lot.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah. I mean in this case, I feel like it's valid.
She's saying, I'm ill, I'm not feeling well, I can't.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Go, Right, that's that, and that's a fair Like you
should tell people like why you can't go.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah. If she just said, oh, I can't go, and
then I'd be like, well, what the fuck is that?

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Well, you'd say why, Yeah, so yeah, I think that's
only fair. I'd be like, I am, I'm feeling well,
I can't go.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
OPI graciously eats it and let me.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Say that's nice. And I would still take the money.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
If I had the money, I would probably not offer
it back. But right, if they're going to be I mean,
it depends on a bunch of things. But like this
is this is one of the costs. There is another
cost of community. Like I just got burned. I've been
burned by this before. I bought four tickets to see
a movie. Everybody's in. I didn't collect venmos. Oh no,
that's the you know, one of them bails doesn't vemo me, Well,

(32:42):
you give my ticket to someone else, okay, fucker.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
But then I'm like, you organize it. You have to
find the substitute.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I'm not in the business of selling fucking tickets. I
already sold the ticket to you and now you bailed.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
No, it's like, you have to find the substitute if
you don't want to eat the money, you know.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
But it's one of those things where I'm like, am
I gonna make a capital case over fifteen dollars? I'm like,
I'm just gonna eat it. And that's life.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
That's annoying, you know.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
And the movie was lost in translation, and it was
a banger. Oh very viby vibes scargo. Let me tell you.
Putting scargro in a movie I think is kind of sinister.
Why because I could just look at her. I'm like,
I'll still look at her.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, I could look at her.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
For ninety minutes.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
That seems like it's a good choice.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
But it's kind of a scam because I'm like, I
can't even objectively process the movie. I'm just like, Mmmm, Scartrow,
she pretty man, like pretty.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I got it. I feel that way about Michael B. Jordan.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Oh my god, we share Michael B. Jordan. I didn't
know we had that.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Everybody loves Michael B.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Jordan is one of my guys that I would like support.
Why not? Yeah, no, especially as killmonger. Oh my god,
is this your king as a compelling antagonist? Let's go.
I haven't seen Centers yet.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Oh it's so good.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I'm sorry to hear that. So I think this is reasonable.
I think this person was very reasonable. They didn't, you know,
they didn't ask her to pay. It's like so generous.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
You're like, s feel better. That's nice. That's the thing.
You say.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
What do you want? What does she want? I don't
know what she could wants. Let's try it. I'll try
to come up with something. Okay, So, Sarah, the wine
tour is tomorrow. Can't wait to see you.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Oh you know, I'm not feeling well. I can't go.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Oh my god, what is what's the nature of your illness?

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Well, against my doctor's advice, I got vaccines yesterday when
I was already kind of feeling a little sniffily. So
I'm really out.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Oh my god, what an undeserved tragedy of a wonderful person.
It truly is the stuff of Shakespearean demise.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Right, so you agree, you'll recan't you'll reschedule the whole
line tour.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Oh well, Sarah, you know we're a mid thirties friend group.
It took me eight months to there's three people going.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
That's so real. Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
So I'm just like, yeah, I don't really know. I
don't I don't know what, Like, I don't know what
to do with this.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
I feel like I can't believe if she thought that
was callous. That's so nice of a message.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
I don't know what else there is to write. Really,
It's like you're an adult and you're having a problem,
and I am sorry to hear, but like, will you
want me to solution you?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
No, Like you want everybody to stay home and like
send her soup or whatever.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
That's psychotic. Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean that's a
good idea, though, if you really want to go the
extra mile, you say, like, hey, let me bring you
some juice or soup or whatever.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Also like, but it's we're adults. Like the only people
I expect to maybe get me stuff when I'm sick
is Ryan. But like, yeah, we live together reasonable and like,
if my friend lived alone, then I would offer to
like uber. If and it was like my really good friend,
I would offer to like uber eat some stuff. But
I'm just like, we're adults. If you can text me
that you're sick, you can use an ap. Yeah, Like

(35:59):
it's like it's not that serious.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, very true. I will say I think showing up
can add a little bit because it's sort of like.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
You can get so nice. Yeah, it's so nice.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
It feels like, oh, people still care about me. I
want to get through this. Yeah, it could be emotional
a little bit. Totally top comment went and Ta SJW
Seven's right, that's a perfectly normal Doffel message to send someone.
If she's difficult, then point out you cover the cost
of her not attending, but haven't asked her to pay.
I assume she has an offered to remburse you, which
says a lot about her.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yes, seriously, your.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Message was absolutely fine. Right, It's no device eighty seventy two.
They are just kind of dumb. They clearly wanted you
to dig and ask a million questions. So what exactly
is wrong? Find advice about what medicine to take? I
like that's why I went that route. I fuck that
I dated this girl for a while, but send send
texts like this, and I was like, I don't, Yeah,

(36:48):
I don't. I legitimately don't know what you want from me.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
No, I just like to complain and keep you abreast. Yeah,
but it's not like, you know, I have all the
medicine that one could need CVS. I got it in
my part, got it, So I don't need like advice
really on what to do.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
You know. It's a classic case of has the North
Pond hermit says, get enough sleep, get more sleep.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
People. I can't believe that guy.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
So I think I'm sorry to hear that as reasonable.
I think if you wanted to go to the next level,
if it was your girlfriend or girl you're interested in,
or vice versa guy that you're interested in, I'm sorry
to hear that. Is there anything I can do to help?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:28):
That can be very sweet, I mean it did. It
has a huge emotional impact that I was sick recently
and someone brought me something and it really did put.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Some Uh no, it's really nice.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Something sheer in my boots.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, I think almost. I mean, like, look if you
have a cold. It's like we can all.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Live with it.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yeah, clue COVID like other illnesses that are serious that
I didn't just get a vaccine for. So that's what
I'm thinking about it. Like, I think that's when you
can say, like, oh, let me bring you stuff norovirus.
I'll send you some crackers and leave it on your
set because I'm not getting near that shit. But I
know it's terrible. Gatorade. I'll bring you gatorade.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, Orpedia, light pedia light.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Keep it, keep it for the baby. Good enough for
the Baby's good enough for me. Aita for saying I'm
sorry to hear that. I think it's a resounding NTA.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
And now what has and like what did she even want?

Speaker 1 (38:14):
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(38:35):
my current wife to stop body shaming my ex wife. Oh,
I forty five AM married my second wife twenty nine F,
a few years after my ex wife forty seven F
divorced me. I'm thin while current wife is on the
heavier side, but my ex wife is much heavier. I
prefer a woman to be heavier. My wife has referred
to my ex as fat multiple times in a derogatory manner.

(38:55):
I asked my wife to stop body shaming my ex,
and my wife accused me of still loving my ex.
I love my wife, and my ex is a good
person and the mother of my children. I want my
wife to know I love her, but I don't want
to hear anyone insulting my ex.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
AI t A, that's such a fucking red flag from
the wife. Yeah, that's even if the wife was like, like,
if they're honestly them both being overweight makes it a
little less evil, but like eat still it's not.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
No. Yeah, I mean there's a cultural layer. I don't
think it applies here, but you know, we we've talked
about this before, but it's very common in Latino culture
to just do this.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Probably just called each other fat.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Yeah, it's like a nickname. Flakita Gordo oh a little
skinny one fat boy, little fat boy.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
But it's not me and it doesn't have the malice.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Yeah, okay, I mean you could.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Kind of get away with it sometimes in English, like
I don't know, like Bob who's Italian owns a deli,
like his name's fat soo like it does sometimes I guess. Okay,
but yeah, this this to me, Well, first of all,
it just feels like it comes from insecurity. Yeah, it's
like she's fat, but she's not even that she's fat,
that she's fatter than the current wife's like, well you're fat, yeah,

(40:12):
and for what for what is it to say that
she's fat?

Speaker 2 (40:16):
That feels like jealousy, like crabs in a bugget mentality?

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yeah, I just don't. I don't really think there's any
purpose to this. I mean I've realized I do like
to say, my dad was always a big sayer of moron,
like you're a moron. My dad loves its fun, innocent,
it's never been played out. It doesn't have any like malice.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
No, it kind of well, so I did this article
one time. Apparently moron is rooted in like what they
used to call uh intellectually disabled. Sure, but yeah, now
it just means but.

Speaker 1 (40:46):
It doesn't have that like coarseness that comes with the arms.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Why. Yeah, yeah, so boomer dads love love moron.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
Yeah, but like I've noticed too, like I don't know,
I feel like humor, like roasty humor, it doesn't go
It doesn't play that well. I guess in LA it
doesn't play well. So I even avoid that, like insulting
people's intelligence. It's only people's body weight. It's just yeah,
it's not really cool.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
I mean, it's definitely not cool to like insult people's
looks exactly.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
They can't they can't do anything, or even if they can't,
it's on your business.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Yeah, that's just like, yeah, that's just the thing you
don't do.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
You don't need to do it. But yeah, I think
there's something to say about like, you know, I've I've
had this realization, you know, my friends, like there are
certain people will clown on.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
But yeah, yeah, but I've gotten dingd.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Like I've started clowning. Well just like whatever, I'll be
roasting someone in a super vicious way or anything, not
body shaming, but just you know, kind of shitting on
something they did or whatever. And my friends are like no,
you can't do them because.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
LA is making you soft a little bit, you.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Know, But it's like in group versus out group. Yeah. Yeah,
for me and my friends, I think they're like I
think they're good boys, and so whenever they like push back,
I'm like that that's fair, Like that person didn't do
anything wrong. No, And maybe what I'm objecting to is
usually their taste. I'm like, oh, I can't believe they
you know.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
I love insating taste.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
They have a teal cyber truck. It's hideous or whatever.
It's not a cyber truck. They'd be on board for that. Yeah,
but like, yeah, who you insult and how you insult them?
Like I think this is like a legitimate thing because yeah,
it's ugly. You don't want to hear that.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
I mean, learning that she's the mother of the children
is just like unless this person is an insane person,
then like, why are you insulting her?

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I think she's insecure because you know what, he married
someone fourteen years younger, fifteen years younger than him. I
can't do mad in sixteen. I'm like, that's a cliche. Yeah,
she's the wife, is the one who gave him the kids,
probably insecurity about that. She's worried he still loves the
ex because the ex initiated the divorce.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, I'm insecurity. Fair well done. I love that point.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Yeah, I'm seen a lot insecurity.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
I think that's a great read. I mean, I just
think it's really juvenile, and I think there's a nuance
that some people never grow to have, but some people
get it. Most people get it. It's like, you can
have an unsuccessful relationship with someone. They can even treat
you toxically, maybe you can even be but that doesn't
make them a bad person. You might've had a bad thing,

(43:21):
you know, And that's something that I've had to realize.
I'm like, yeah, I didn't. It didn't go well between
me and them. It was a certain situation, there was
a context to it. I was in a certain place,
they were in a certain place. And I tend to
think of very very few people as bad people because
I don't believe it. I really don't. I feel like,
you know, sometimes like there's people who are just more

(43:43):
dominant and they're going to just do whatever they want
to do, and you let them dominate you. You should
have ran away because they were never going to compromise
or whatever it may be.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Yeah, I don't think anyone I know is a bad person.
I could think of some public figures who are very bad.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
That's fair, No, that's super fair. But yeah, I just
think so this is this is a very like therapy
speaking suggestion, but wonderful base right sixty seven fifty one.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
It's respecting the mother and my children has nothing to
do with loving her. I'm with you, But there's a
scenario where we can all exist like adults without needing
to comment on anyone's Wait, let's just live our life
and leave her physical appearance out of it.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, but I think if she was insulting her for
other stuff, that still wouldn't be okay.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Yeah, I think I would just say, like, hey, it's
kind of a boundary for me. You're insulting the mother
of my children. This is someone I respect and I
coordinate with and I work with to raise my kids
who are really important to me.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
Yeah, and you can't do that.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
We're separate, we're not together. I love you, babe, but like,
I don't want you to talk I don't want to
talk shit on her.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah, Like that's really perfectly reasonable.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
I don't want to talk shit around on her, around
me or in front of the kids. Yeah, that's fair,
that's super freaking reasonable. Yeah, you want to go talk
shit about her to your to Jillian, go for it,
to Abigail, go for it.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
It's always Aquel, It's always Abigail.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Why is it always people who are a little heavy
themselves saying like this writs for a statistician.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
It's not, it's not, it's not. Where are you pulling
that out of your ass? If she was thin, that
wouldn't make it okay.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
People talk shit costly.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Yeah, thin, people invented fat phobia, Like, what are you
talking about?

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Yeah? Anyway, whatever, Yeah, I think I think the issue is.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
This person says, have you tried saying people with glasshouses
shouldn't throw stones? Like so you want to throw a
nuclear bomb into this situation. This is don't take this
person's advice.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Don't call her fat. That's a terrible.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Oh that's the worst way you could handle it.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Actually, And I think we have discussed extensively, you know,
coming after a woman's looks, it's a low blow. Don't
fucking do that. Yeah, don't fucking do that. But yeah,
I do think it is a boundary. I think this
is a boundary. It's to say, like, hey, don't talk
shit about person X y Z in front of me. Yeah,
that person is an ally. I mean you we've had
an interaction like this. I was roasting one of your

(45:53):
friends and you said that's my friend. And I was like,
all right, you're right, I'm an asshole, you know.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Valid it's like a friend. Yeah, yeah, it's yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
It's like it creates a bad feeling you don't want
to like, like, part of when you're close to someone
is like you see them in a positive light, and
even if they do something wrong, you're probably gonna be like,
well I thought this or that or whatever. It's not
what it looks like.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Right, You're like, I'm going to stick up for them
because they're my friend.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. So I think wife is really
she's watching this. She needs to cool it. And it's
and by the way, can I just say it's unattractive.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
It is unattractive. It's jealousy. It just reeks of jealousy.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
This doesn't make you cool. No, putting others down does
not elevate yourself. There we go, Mahatma Gandhi, I Drew
Gandhi on it. Think you said that. Probably not Anta
for asking my grandfife stop abouty she magswife. I think
we're lined up ta ta and she is she is Sarah.
This has been so fun, it has been yay. Well,

(46:52):
well see you guys next time.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Bye bye
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