Accessing Heavenly Portals - Dr. Candice Smithyman AlongTheWay 127 - AlongTheWay

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John Matarazzo (00:00):
Well, Dr.
Candace Smitherman, it is greatto have you on along the way.
Thank you so much for justmaking the time for this
conversation. I know we had alittle bit of a trouble getting
started here with some technicalissues, but we've overcome that.
And I just appreciate yourflexibility in this process
here. But enough about that, I'mjust glad to be able to talk
with you. We've had theopportunity to, to work together

(00:23):
on a couple of differentoccasions, first as a guest on
my TV show. And then also withthe podcast network, and then
you actually were, we ran intoeach other at nation's church in
person for the first time. Andwe've done some other things
since then, including the lasttime we had a great chance to
talk. I did an interview withyou. And we ended up having such

(00:46):
an awesome time after we stoppedrecording where you actually led
me and a Nia who was theproducer through a very powerful
encounter with Jesus, thathopefully we get a chance to
incorporate some of that intothis conversation, too. But Dr.

(01:07):
Candace Smitherman Great to haveyou here on along the way.

Candice Smithyman (01:11):
Thank you, John. It's my blessing and honor
privilege to be here with youtoday. I'm excited to see what
God's gonna do in this interviewalways shows up and he always
does something amazing. So myeyes are open. Yes, for sure.

Yes, he does show up. And I just love the
fact that God has allowed ourpasses across multiple times
already. And now we finally getto be along the way together,
which I appreciate. And thepurpose of this is to really
hear your story about how you'vebeen walking with the Lord. And
as I'm going to be askingquestions, that kind of along

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the way, as God puts things onmy heart, or things stand out,
and we want to go a little bitdeeper. And so if you if you
wouldn't mind, just I'd like tohear your story of how, what is
it that you're doing now? Andthen let's go back? And how did
how did God bring you down thatpath?

Yeah, oh my gosh, the Lord is doing so much.
This, where I'm at right nowwith him is I'm really living
out my purpose and destiny, alot of what my life encompasses
now is vision that God had givenme probably more than 25 years
ago, and I never really fullyunderstood it, because I was in

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process. But every day, I justthank him because I really am
living out the real reason whyHe created me to be on the earth
and and I feel in a sense it Iunderstand it. I mean
convergence, I would say, youknow if you kind of understand
different levels of growth andmaturity in the Lord different

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things that he has, for us asindividuals as we grow with him,
and convergence as in who I amand who he's created me to be,
is converging in the right timeand season for the manifestation
of who God wants to be in andthrough me, and, and I have a

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lot of joy. I am reallyexperiencing ever every day new
encounters with God, new levelsof revelation that I can share
with others that tune into mytelevision show my glory road
television show, which is seenin more than about 350 million
homes across the world. It's avery large audience. I'm on

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multiple networks. And I have avery large, Middle Eastern and
Muslim public populationactually, that watches my
programs. So I get theopportunity to minister the
gospel in the tongue of Urdu aswell as English. So my programs
are translated into Urdu, aswell as translated

into Urdu. You don't actually speak or be
really impressed with the

great translators? No. So my show airs
in English and also in Urdu onmany different networks. And,
and so you know, the Lord hasreally been advancing the
ministry tremendously. But alongthe way, I've had to make a lot
of choices. I've had a lot oflosses, tremendous loss in many

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areas. I have found that theonly reason I sit at the seat
that I do today, in all humilityis because of the different
crosses that I born thedifferent losses that I've
experienced. I I'm not here inthis place, because God gave me
some great vision and then boom,I sped their note, five years

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of, of a lot of growth, a lot ofpain, a lot of joy, a lot of
looking at myself a lot oflearning how to surrender more
and more to God and and give upmore. It seems with everything
that he advances or multiplies,we have to sow a seed in the
ground, from a depth standpoint.
So each and every level, I diedto another part of myself or

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another, another something thatmeant a lot to me in order to be
able to be at the place that Iam today. But I do pinch myself
every day, thinking about thebeauty and the grace of God and
where he's brought me from. Iwas an abandoned little girl at
nine years old, I lost my fatherto a massive heart attack. He

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was 52 years old, and I was onlymy goodness, nine. Yep, my
mother was a widow. At 32, shehad two small children, a nine
year old myself and my, mysister who was six at that time,
and the Lord was a part of mylife. Even then, when I was a
child, he knew I would write inmy Bible, how much I love Jesus.

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And so I'd received Jesus and,and I knew how much you know,
he, he loved me as much as Icould understand that. But what
I didn't understand is after myfather's death, which was so
tragic, my mother went into anintense state of grief. And so
she, she really had haddifficulty dealing with my

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father's death. And my being theoldest child, I dealt with that
through being very stoic. And soI never cried nor showed any
signs of, of grief, myself andmy father's death, I immediately
picked myself up and startedgoing forward, like, the only
way I was going to survive is ifI just kept moving. Yeah. And so

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I was surrounded by a lot ofpeople who tried to tell me that
my dad was a good man. And sothe Lord needed him and created
an anger on the inside of me.
Because if God really loved me,then why did he take my father

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and I needed him? Why? Why wouldGod Right, right. So I had some
wrong theology thrown at me at ayoung age, and I was too young
to really discern or understandit, counseling wasn't a thing
back then. So you didn't kind ofput your kids in counseling. My
body immediately broke down atnine years old, because right

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after my father passing mymother grieving the loss of my
father, only within a matter ofa few weeks, I was in the
hospital. And I was hooked up toa lot of machines for about six
weeks, and I had a Crohn'sdisease attack. And they had to
remove a part of my three feetof my intestines. So I had my

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goodness, yeah. So at nine yearsold, nine years old, it was life
threatening, wow. Then my mothershifted from grieving the death
of my father to wonderingwhether or not her her oldest
daughter was going to survive,it was a lot of tragedy rather
quickly. So then I was diagnosedwith Crohn's disease, and which
I didn't even know what thatwas. I just, you know, again, it

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was in my medical file, but I,you know, was proceeding on with
life and feeling kind ofderailed and deranged from God.
Basically, I was in a placewhere I actually started to
believe well, maybe God didn'tsee my dad. But why didn't he
love me enough to keep them. Somy lack of being able to discern

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and understand really whathappened kind of propelled me
into a place of kind of being myown master of all things. And so
I began to kind of learn how tonavigate the world. Simply by
kind of like being a chameleonper se, I would wear all the
different masks that werenecessary in a moment, for me to

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be able to deal with what wasgoing on around me what I mean
by that is, I was always areally good student in school.
So I always strive to be like,you know, the number one
student, I was president of myclass, I was top cheerleader.
You know, I mean, everythingthat was a stretch from a
performance standpoint, youwould find me being that person,

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I had to be kind of at thatnumber one level for my own
self. In order for me to knowthat I was alive that I was
living that what I was doing wasto gain something. And so I kind
of learned to maneuver my worldlike that. As long as I could
keep performing and doing welland keep getting my cookies and
my m&ms and all my awards andall that kind of thing. Then I

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was going to be okay with me.
And so, but inside John was alot of anger toward God, and
unrecoverable. And so I led twolives because I was this you
know, like perfect kind of kidon one side with all of these
achievements. And on the otherside, you'd find me kind of
smoking pot. out on the streetcorner, you know, hanging out

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with the kids that you knew,were really having difficulties
in life, I had a lot ofcompassion on them, but I was
right there with them, you know,I was very rebellious, my mother
could never tell me what to door not to do, I was, you know,
ready to wreak havoc at anypoint. And it was I was very, I
was just very rebellious. Andthat really was a manifestation

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of mine, not ever confessingwhat was going on on the inside
of me. And so I manifest in twoways. One is being like this,
you know, performance person.
And then the other side is beinglike somebody who's dealing
with, you know, substance abuseand things of that sort, you
know, very depressed, verysuicidal, you know, these kinds

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of things as a teenager. And so,I went through, went through
life like that until I was 24.
When I first encountered theLord after I got married, at 23
years old, and I found myself inHawaii, I'd met my husband when
I was 21 years old. I graduatedfrom college with my first
degree, a Bachelor of BusinessAdministration and accounting.

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And I took the money to go toHawaii, and I went out to
Hawaii. Instead of buying theclothes for my new job. I was
working for a big aid accountingfirm, and they had given me a
bonus, and they said, go buyyourself some clothes. Instead,
I said, I'm going to Hawaii. SoI grabbed a friend of mine, we
went to Hawaii for three weeks.
And third day on the beach. Imet my husband. And wow, yeah, I

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knew from the time I met him, hewas going to be the guy who was
going to marry. And sure enough,he he was, and we had this
whirlwind romance betweenWashington DC and, and Oahu,
Hawaii, Honolulu, Hawaii forabout three or four months. And
then I finally moved off toHawaii. And we were together for

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almost a year. And then we gotmarried. Yeah, and that was I'm
proud to say, that was 33 yearsago. So praise the 34 years ago.
So praise the Lord. We've beenmarried for three years. Yeah,
this month, actually. And so um,so during that time, I put all
of my eggs per se into myrelationship with my husband.

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Everything about my identity wasreally focused around him. He
was an incident in the Navy, hewas moving into JG he had this
career path in the militarywhere he knew he had dreams and
desires. He was an nfo, a navalflight officer for the P threes.
And so we always lived on nearwater and beautiful places. I

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kind of lived all over the worldduring our 21 years that he
served in the Navy. Long storyshort, so he takes off goes to
Japan on deployment when Okay,before I'm left in Hawaii. All
of a sudden, I start grievingJohn, I start grieving, like,
for the first time in my lifenow, I'm not having any
relationship with God, betweenthe time that I'm nine until 24.

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Everything I'm doing is aboutCandice, it's about what's
Candace doing? What kind ofachievement just Candice have,
you know, I mean, I just I wouldwork really, really hard. And
you know, what kind of job youknow, it was it was all about
me. I mean, like my world likerevolved around me. It was
ridiculous. So finally here, Ifind myself and I'm grieving.

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And the Lord began to send meall of these people, the people
at my job, and then a women inmy wife's club, and they're
like, hey, you know, you don'treally look very good. Like, you
know, because I didn't, I wasn'teating. I was sick. I was
depressed. I mean, I just, Imean, I literally was grieving,
but I didn't know it. I justknew that something had hit me
that was like, I couldn't mysoul was being crushed. And I

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didn't have an answer for it.
Well, they began to start tominister the gospel to me, and I
said, Hey, listen.
I know Jesus, but he doesn'tcare about me. And he doesn't
care about what's going on withme. And they said, What, then
they were like, You don't knowhim? And I said, Listen, I
received Jesus when I was a kid.
And I was like, the he's allconcerned about wars and famine

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and like, big things like that.
What is he? What does he careabout me? And they're like,
Listen, you just, you don't knowhim. And I was like, I don't to
put like a question in my mind.
Like, what do you mean, I don'tknow him, like, you know,
thought he knew him ever since Iwas a kid. Right? And so, one
night, my husband called me andsaid, There's a man in my

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squadron that died and we'reshipping his body back to the to
Honolulu. So this this manpassed away in Japan in the
squad and they're shipping hisbody back. And he says, As an
officer's wife, you need toattend the funeral. You need to
go as a representative of me andyou and I said, Listen, I
haven't been to a funeral sincemy dad died when I was nine, and

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I don't intend on going. Andhe's like, You have to go when I
listen. John, I'd skirted everyfuneral. You Can imagine between
the time of nine and 24, nograndparents, no ants, no
uncles, I wouldn't make it toanybody's okay. I always had
something going on that it wasjust like, I'm not going.

So So you had the opportunities, but you just,
you just avoided it at all.

Yeah. And they were it was planned
avoidance. I was like, I'm notgoing right. I could not deal
with seeing because I saw thecop my father's coffin. And that
was like, burn image in my mind.
I could not ever deal with that.
And I had no course faced my ownfears about death, I faced
anything. I'd avoided everythingby good performance, John, I

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mean, I mean, we're talking wecan we can get around all kinds
of things in life if you'redoing what the world says is
good. And you look at proving topeople you can get away from
ever having to take a good lookat yourself because the world
will tell you you're okay.
Whether or not you ever take alook at who you really are. So
and see this is the heart I hadYeah, I had good flesh and I had
good flesh John, you know, wecall that flesh and we say flesh

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right? And we always refer to itas a bad thing. Right? Okay,
well yeah, flesh being our sinnature, but you can make your
sin nature look really good.
Well, I'd make my no really goodto people. So they'd be patting
me on the back telling me allyou know straight A student all
you number one here, your numberand I would just be eaten it up.
Like this is how I wassurviving. Right? You know, so,

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but that flash, that's all thatis, right? But I misunderstood
it as the way to gain approvalso that I could live so you can
imagine John, I was like avacuum cleaner, sucking the life
out of everybody I was with,because as long as I was getting
admiration from people, or aslong as people were telling me,
I was okay, and I was this or Iwas that, then I was okay with

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me. But the minute that stopped,I was losing my foundation. It
was such false. It was such afalse sense of security, to put
your life into other people'shands looking for personal
approval or looking for approvalof your achievements. That's who
I was. So long story short, myhusband calls me up tells me to

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go this funeral I say No way. Sothat night before I go to bed,
and I don't know if I can painta picture for you. But I have
this like little black and whiteTV with the antennas. You know,
sitting in my world war tworoach infested apartment
provided by the US Navy inHonolulu, actually was in

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Barbara's point, Hawaii, whichis on like, the desert side of
the island. And no family, my myclosest family 6000 miles away.
No mom to come and rescue me.
You know, Mom was always reallygood at getting me. You know,
she was the best mom ever, youknow, which me and my sister. As
we were all grew up together. Welike kind of The Three

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Musketeers because now you know,my dad was gone, you know, and
so, so she can rescue me. Sohere I am. And I say to the
Lord, I mean, I like a gallon ofice cream depressed as you can
be. It is eating this ice cream.
And when I'm finished eating thewhole gallon, okay, that's how I
said, Lord, this is my patheticprayer. I call it the pathetic

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prayer because it's what it was,Lord, if you're there, and you
can hear me, I can't get myselfout of this one. Now, listen,
when I said that, I was notsaying I couldn't get myself out
of the funeral. It was a cryfrom my soul. I was saying I
can't get me out of me. Like, Ican't free myself. All right.

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The funeral was the thing thatdrove me. What was the natural
cause that drove me to pray aprayer. That was a soul that was
deprived and sick, my soul wassick. So I said, I can't get
myself out of this one. Well, Ifell asleep with the light on I
literally passed out, fellasleep with the light on and
woke up the next morning.
Looking for my grief. John, Iwoke up expecting to be sick.

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Because every day I got up I wassick, sick to my stomach. Sick
Am I so I had such a heavyspirit of depression, and
anxiety and fear around me. Andmy soul was consumed with this.
And I had never dealt with it.
And so here's the combination ofit. I was going to my personal
death that I reached for for totouch my death, that death on

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the inside of me. And it wasn'tthere. I was like, I kept
hitting my chest. Oh my god. Ohmy god, like I feel. I feel like
myself, like, like, who I wasbefore all this. And I was like,
and I mean, I want you to know,it's not even like I like real
conscious understanding of who Iwas before this moment, but it
was just feel joy. I was like, Ifeel joy. I feel peace. I don't

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feel pain. And I was like, Oh myGod, what was the last thing I
said? And I said, I prayed thatprayer. So I got up I got
dressed for the funeral. I wentto the funeral and the people
who had been ministering to me,took one look at me at the
funeral and they said, My God,what's happening you look
totally different. And I said Iam. I said, I prayed this prayer

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and that Jesus. I said, all of asudden he came and he touched
me. And I was like, I'm like,healed. I'm like, I feel like
amazing. And they're like, Well,why don't you come tonight to
our Bible study? And I said,Okay, I'll be there. And they
said, Okay, well, it's going tobe on base just come at this
time. So I showed up to thisBible study, and there's about

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20 people there. And the pastorof the chapel was there. And he
began to go through Biblescriptures. And he started to
say, you know, what is thisScripture mean? And the
different people, you know, wewere all there. And he'd say,
okay, so what does the Scripturemean? And I'm looking around, no

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one's raising their hands, who'sgiving a scripture, but no one's
raising their hand. And I'mthinking to myself, well, I know
what the scripture means. So Ilike kind of like, sheepishly
raised my hand, like, I know,and everyone looks at me like,
What do you know, like, you justyou just got touched, but what
do you know, you know? And so hesays, okay, Candace, what do you
think it means? So then I toldhim, I said, this is what I

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think it means. And he's like,Well, that's exactly what that
means. So then he does it again.
And then he starts askingpeople, What is the Scripture
mean? No one's raising theirhand. And I'm like, What is it
with this group? Like, don'tthey know what the Scriptures
mean? You know, I was like,because it's right here. So I
lifted up my hand again, and hesaid, Okay, Candace, what does
it mean? And I said, Well, thisis what the scripture means. And
everybody's looking at me, like,how do you know this? And I was

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like, that's when I knew. I waslike, Oh, my God, something's
happened to me. And I was like,because I couldn't even read the
word before. I didn't evenunderstand, right. And I was
like, now I'm healed in my body.
I'm not even sad or sickanymore. And I can actually
understand the word of God andshare it with these other
people. And I was like,something's happened. It was

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amazing. So then I heard thevoice of the Lord say, shortly
after that, was like, the nextday or so he said, he said, in
three days, the enemies comingto steal your joy, get in my
word, and memorize every wordyou can about fear, anxiety, and
depression. So then I begin tostart I flipped it, I found a

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concordance in the back of myBible, which I didn't even know
how to use by the way. Butsomehow or another in the back,
it starts listing these words,these topics, and I went to
fear. And I started seeing allthe scriptures and I started
memorizing, and I started tosing him over and over again to
my son, anytime I felt likesomething was cutting back on me
again, to try and take away myjoy, I just began to start

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seeing the word. And I say itover and over again. And then I
started to ruminate on it overand over again. And that's kind
of how the story started, whereI learned to begin to start
healing myself with the Word ofGod, I had one touch from the
Lord, yes. But then healed byspeaking the Word of God, to

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myself. Well, then this one lastthought I want to share with
you, John, because I know yougot some questions here. But
yeah, so this last bit here. Sothen in that same week, I had an
appointment on the base to go tothe doctor to get my Crohn's
disease checked. So when youhave Crohn's disease, it's a
disease of the intestines. Andso you have to drink barium in

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order for you to go X raymachines so that they can
determine what's going on. So Idid with the strength to bearing
out went to the test, when itwas finished. They said, Oh, my
God, you have no signs ofCrohn's disease whatsoever. And
they were like, What happened toyou? And I knew I was healed. I
was like, I had this encounterwith the Lord, He's healed me.

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So in that one touch from God,not only was my soul brought to
a place of joy, I then was ableto understand the word of God
read it, understand and speak itand then speak it to myself for
healing. But I was also healedof the A incurable disease. So
they say incurable was Crohn'sdisease. And so one touch God,

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then now I'm on a supernaturaljourney, from that supernatural
touch from God to find outeverything that I can about who
he is about his love about whathe has for us and about how I
can get in alignment with himbecause my life was out of steal
out of control. Like I was notliving holy. I didn't even know
what holiness was. How does thisget right?

Yeah, so you I just want to key in on something
that you were just saying,because you said that you heard
God speak to you memorize myword, because in three days
something is coming to stealyour joy. Yeah. What was that
thing but I love the fact thatGod gave you a plan to overcome
that. What happened at the threeday mark?

Yeah, eat well, as you know, when the soul
is frayed or in pain or in sin.
It opens us up for demonicforces to have strongholds over
our life. And so you can imaginethe stronghold forces of fear,
anxiety and depression that havefollowed me ever since I was
nine years old when I faced aspirit of death, that spirit of

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death came upon my father, butit came upon our household. And
see, this is the thing aboutdeath, death is not fair. When
it comes to steel, and it comesto kill, not only did it take
the life of my father, but itactually took me my sister and
my mother's life to it robbed usof our lives. And I had to learn

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to live my life, with thecarnage or the effect of the
spirit of death, having comeupon me, and not having any
knowledge of God, not reallyunderstanding anything. I did
not know that how that spirit ofdeath manifest is also with
fear, anxiety and depression. Sothe lying spirits manipulation,

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that these spiritual forces comewith this. And so they came in
attach themselves to me. So fromthe time I was nine years old,
I'd always suffered from severea fear, anxiety and depression,
I would overcome it through myperformance. But I had always
had high anxiety levels, likeGeneralized Anxiety Disorder, I
mean, always anxious all thetime, always a spirit of fear,

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you know, these kinds of things.
These come from having faced aspirit of death when I was a
child and never understandingit, nor having it be reconciled.
So can you imagine I carry thatuntil I was 24. So when the Lord
speaks out to me, what he'ssaying is, those forces have
been with you for all of thoseyears, and they've grabbed hold

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of your soul. And you've triedto fight them with good
performance with doing differentnatural tactics to get away from
it. But there was no way toescape. And so when he gives me
the strategy, what he's doing ishe's sharing with me, this is
how you'll be set freepermanently. Not only did I give
you a supernatural touch, but Iwant you to work the word into

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the Word works for you. I wantyou to work my word which brings
freedom by knowing andunderstanding what these spirits
do, and then they will not gainaccess over you anymore. You
will indeed now have authorityover them.

Amen. Amen. So God gave you a plan to overcome
before the enemy tried to getyou back. And so you are able to
withstand? That's great. Yeah,that's awesome. So you, you said
that you moved all over whenyour husband was in the Navy,
and you're now in Jacksonville,Florida right now. Is that

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correct?

I am. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. So how did you go from being an
officer's wife into beingsomebody that's written multiple
books, who has a couple ofpodcasts has a TV show that, you
know, being viewed in othercountries and being translated
into Urdu? You know, tell meabout let's connect those dots
there too, because, like, whatyou shared was just a great,

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amazing story of how Godprotected you early on. But
there's a lot of there's a lotof life that has happened since
you were 24. And it feels like,from the times that we've
talked, it feels like God islaunching you into something
even bigger than what you'vealready done. As of as of 2022.
It feels like there's a lot morethat God's bringing launching

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you into, how did God bring youto where you are today?

You know, he really brought me here through
this study of the Word of God, Idon't want to sound like he
knew, you know, kind of likegive a pat answer. But I always
felt that there was more to God.
And more, he wanted to reveal tome about himself that I did not

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know. And if I persisted onsearching for the treasure in
every way, he would continue toreveal who he was to me, I want
you to know that search is notover. It's the glory of God.
It's the glory of King, it's theglory of God to conceal a
matter. It's the glory of Kingsjust search out a manner. And so

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as a king, as a queen, as aprincess of the Lord as one of
his inherited children. I'malways seeking more of him, I
want to know more of him all thetime, I realized, I don't know.
All there is to know and hewants to continue to reveal
things on a continual basis. SoI continue to drive myself in
the Word of God. And so he gaveme enough wisdom, a touch of

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wisdom from heaven to constantlybe seeking Him the fear of the
Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
I continue to revere him and Icontinue to, to seek after that
wisdom any way that I could. SoI, I just get in the Word and
start studying the Word andstudying the Word and the Word
became my lifeline. And the wordhealed me in every way, not only
a fear, anxiety and depressionhas healed my body of multiple

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disorders. And you know, atvarious times, brought me great
revelation and understanding,excuse me, these kinds of things
so that I would be able to beone that God could provide Mote
in due season, you know, Godwill show us visions of our
life. And we'll see ourselvespromoted in certain places. But

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there is a journey to get there.
And that journey always bringsus back to that humble place, a
place of humility and surrender,knowing that we don't know what
we think we know. And if we willjust get in the Word of God and
get in that deep and abidingrelationship with that with him,
which is what he wants the most.
God doesn't want our promotion,he doesn't care one way or the

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other about our promotion,right? He cares about personal
relationship with us. And thefruit of that is promotion, the
fruit of that is going fromglory to glory to glory. So when
we get our eyes on the rightthing, which he trained me to
do, then he just began to startopening doors with every single
one of those doors, so I had togive up something. I had great

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loss, you know, and great painand great challenge. I faced a
lot of intense demonic forces,you know, I mean, here I was
young thinking, fear, anxietyand depression, were it Are you
kidding me? I faced you know,oh, my gosh, you know, jazz
Bell, Ahab, glorious spirits,all different kinds of demonic
spirits that are, you know,just, you know, in our earth

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today, that I had to learn toovercome. So different levels,
open me up to those differentchallenges, right, new levels,
new devils, it's the truth.
Right? Each devil would take meright back to the very
beginning, just like I was 24.
What is it that you're trying totell me? What is it that I don't
know about you? What is it thatthe word is going to reveal? Get

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me in that word, and show meLord, that I might be changed, I
might be healed and redeemedthat I might be more like you.
And so. So yes, where I'msitting today is a result of a
lot of intensive study, youknow, and I'm still studying
just as hard today, as I did allthose all those years before,
and if nothing else, even morenow, not only for myself, which

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is number one, right? I go forme, okay? Because I need help in
all kinds of areas, but I now goto be a voice of encouragement
to others who need it so thatthose that are sick, and they're
weary, and they're tired, andthey're overcome with forces,
and they don't know how to getout of their masks, that there
may be a word that God wouldgive me for them, that they

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might be raised up, and theymight be encouraged. And so, so
now my life is one of being aservant for him, so that as he
teaches and trains me, I canbring forth that revelation and
help others go into a deeper,more relation, deeper and more
abiding relationship with him aswell.

Wow. So how are you doing that? I mean, I
mentioned earlier that you'rewriting books and doing podcasts
and teachings, and God's reallyopened up a lot of doors for
you, what is your main messageand tell me about somebody's
life has been changed, becauseyou've been obedient to share
that.

You know, my main message now, after these
years, and I believe there'sdifferent levels, again, of
Revelation. So where I am today,is really a greater
understanding of the glory ofGod, and the manifestation of
His glory in the earth, and howI can participate with him. And
now I can surrender to him. So Ican be one used of him, in order

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for others to tap into the gloryof God. So that is kind of like
how I feel like my life call isthat I've I've accesses realms
I've been to Heaven multipletimes. That's my releasing have
been book I've seen andexperienced, you know, many
different supernaturalencounters with God, the first

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hatchet 24 Yes, that's only one.
I mean, my whole life is justfilled with great supernatural
things that God has done inaround me, my ministry, you
know, worldwide, I get theopportunity to travel all over,
we've seen amazing miracles andblind I see deaf ears, hear
people gotten out ofwheelchairs, you know, all the
time, you know, physicalalignments, you know, different

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diseases of, of certain sorts,people here to bring heal to
brain cancer, you know,different kinds of things. The
list is so long, I can almostpinpoint it on one because it's
been happening for such a longperiod of time. These are all
the manifestations of him, him,it's him and his glory. And when
his glory enters the place andjust learning to be submissive

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to that. He's taken me togreater understandings of
learning to be submissive to HisSpirit in in meetings, different
things that I might choose to dobecause I am a teacher of the
word quieting me and causing meto just shut up and be quiet so
that he can work on peoplewithout my even speaking. So

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it's closing down my mouth. It'sclosing on my hands, not
allowing the laying down mygifts that the annoying God
would not operate, but that hisglory would come in. And what I
mean by that is that he wouldtouch everyone in the room
without my touching anyone, andhave everyone walk away healed.
People feeling the weight andthe glory of the Lord. And never

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having experienced that before.
Having him just touch thempersonally and individually,
these kinds of things is, isreally what I want to live for.
And what I see happening now andhe's opening up more and more
doors and opportunities for meto travel and speak, so that I

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can teach and train other peoplein this area too, as well, where
I used to train the sheep atkind of at large, and I still
do, I have a record in for forthe fivefold ministry gifts, and
especially for pastors becauseI, my husband, I pastored a
church for 16 years. And I wantto make sure that I'm just there

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for pastors and leaders who areso wrapped up in loving their
congregations and just all thethings that they have to
experience in order to bringforth the gospel, um, twice a
week, you know, and all thatgoes with that, you know, so So
that's kind of where my, wheremy, where my heart is today. And
and I just want to keep growing.
And God, I just want to keeplearning how to surrender more

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to him, I found that this wholewalk is not about how much you
do. It's about how much yourest, and resting is a whole lot
harder than it is doing.

That is very true. And that that kind of
changed my focus of what we whatI wanted to talk about next.
Because there's a couple ofthings you said, but I think
rest is something that man, howdo we deal with life if we don't
rest if we don't operate out ofthat place of rest. And I think
with rest, it also connects toencountering God in a new way.

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You know, because you've givenyourself that time to be able to
do that. And as opposed to just,you know, just filling your time
and occupying your space withnew things all the time taking
that rest, to sit back and letGod encounter you. I know that's
something that I want to talkabout here. But you've had

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you've had encounter experienceswith Jesus multiple times, you
mentioned that you've been toHeaven, you've encountered that.
Did that come out of a place ofrest as well? How did that
happen? And I guess the biggestquestion is, how can we have
those experiences to?

Yeah, you know, in very, very good
question, you know, and, and,you know, they came out of the
times that I spent with the Lordwhere I got catapulted to
heaven, came at a time of greatsurrender and worship, and also
praying and fasting, doing thespiritual disciplines. I do a

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lot of teaching my ministryabout the 12 spiritual
disciplines and the importanceof practicing them, not as laws,
but simply as a ways that we canproperly position ourselves for
greater holiness and surrenderunto the Lord and the
disciplines pray, praying,fasting, you know, Christian
meditation, you know, that is anmurmuring on the Word of God,

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you know, celebration cominginto worship, you know,
submission, solitude, thesekinds of things will task, the
flash, we talked in thebeginning about good flash, bad
flash, you know, in the earthare often determined, it's still
flesh, no matter whether itlooks good, or not. But that's
the kind of stuff that God wantsto tame, the more flesh is

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tamed, the greater the glorywill walk in. And so just
learning how to do that andlearning how to, you know, share
that with people. So so myencounters have come from
putting my flesh through sometests, enabling my flash to
learn how to surrender more tothe Lord and more to his

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presence. The apostle Paulspeaks about the fact that he
says, I'll boast all the more myweaknesses, and he was talking
about the the thorn that he hadin his flesh. This is one of my
favorite scriptures, as he'stalking about this thorn in his
flesh, he's asking for God toremove it. And he says, The Lord
says to him three times, youknow, My grace is sufficient for

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you, for my power is madeperfect in weakness. And when I
began to study, Paul's outcrythey are granted his outcry was
because he had great revelationsfrom the Lord as a matter of
fact, because he caught up toheaven, right? Even caught him.
Right, right. And, you know, hedoesn't say it's him, but he
says, he knows somebody, right?
And when I found in my own lifeis that actually that word power

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in that Scripture is the worddunamis. And so if we want to
see miracle working powerhappened around us, we have to
learn to surrender ourselves.
and surrender our flesh to theLord, we have to go to a place
of weakness so that his powermay be made, present might be

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made perfect. Now, when we talkabout going to a place of
weakness, I mean, we can go to aplace of weakness, we've been
hit hard by the enemy when we'vebeen hit with sickness, we've
been hit. Okay, but what if youhave flipped your soul on a
conscious level, through prayingand fasting and giving and doing

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these kinds of things, that youend up afflicting yourself to a
place of weakness, then then Hispower, His dunamis power can
come forth. And so Paul wastalking about a new place of
rest that he was in now we knowthe Apostle Paul walked in great
signs, miracles, wonders, as didall the other apostles. Right.
And we, we know this right? Notonly because you will, because

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the word tells us what we cangain an understanding of how we
too, can walk in signs,miracles, and wonders when we
adhere to the Greek and theHebrew words and or the Greek
words and understand what it isthen, that they submitted
themselves to. And to theApostle Paul saying here, he's
saying, Listen, I practiceweakness. That's basically what

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he's saying. He says, I practiceweakness, because when I
practice weakness, then dunamispower comes forth. Now, this is
a powerful word for somebody. Ifsomebody's watching, listening
right now, and they're thinkingto themselves, I want to walk in
Greater Signs, Merkel's wonders,then then practice weakness of
your own flesh, which means takea good look at all the things

(41:36):
that make you strong, and handthose over to the Lord. The
greatest glory that I've everwalked in through signs,
miracles and wonders, seeing Goddo amazing things came when I
was willing to go to places infaith where I would let go
completely of myself, like I'dhave no recollection of all at
all of who I was, but only ofwho he is. That's what first

(41:59):
happened to me. When I gotcaught up. I knew I got caught
up to heaven, because I had nounderstanding of who I was only
an understanding of who he was.
It was only about him. Now, Iwant you to know Kathryn Kuhlman
knew this key too, becausethere's a lot of there's a lot
of videos out there where shesay, shares and shares about her
relationship with the HolySpirit. Okay, she's, she's
talking pretty much kind of thesame thing. I'm saying, like her

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and Holy Spirit, were like one,but she trained her flesh to get
to a place where it remainedweak, and in its weakness, then
God came forth. And so there isa training process. And Apostle
Paul says, is straight up, readtheir scripture. He's saying,
Listen, you got to trainyourself to be weak. And I've
been going through a processanother level process with God,

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even today, John, you know,where God's been ministering to
me. He's next levels of thesethings that he's taking me to
where I got to be weaker, notstronger. And that's not
something that that that weunderstand. Everything is about
our strength. We and in evenwhen we talk about the miracle
working power of God, we alwayssomehow a simulated to us

(43:05):
getting stronger. But in effect,if we want to see the greater
workings of the Lord, we have tobecome less, we have to get
weaker, and then he becomesstronger. And so we have to
practice that. And who wants topractice their weakness? Nobody
does, right? I mean, he want topractice your strength. But
here's the deal, you will bestrong, when you learn how to be

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weak. And in that weakness comesgreat humility, it comes great
bashing, it comes great loss. Itcomes with great risk. That's
the kind of thing that theapostle Paul was saying. He's
saying, Listen, your your graceis sufficient for me, Lord,
because when I have all thosethings that I hold up high, but

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I allow them to fall, then yourpower comes forth.

Yeah. You know, as you're talking about how it's
not our strength, you know, weneed to be in a position of
weakness so that God can, it canbe his strength. I was just
thinking about the story ofGideon, and how he, the Bible
says, In Judges, chapter seven,I believe that, you know, he, he

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was going up against a forcethat was too big to give number,
okay, and so it mean, you add upthe Midianites. And then the
peoples of the East and theBible actually says it's too big
to number, the camels that theyhad was too big to number. And
so I think that that's veryinteresting, especially because
there's a book in the in theBible actually called numbers.
And normally the Bible is veryspecific about numbers. And so

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it says there's way too many toeven count. But then he has a
force of 32,000 men. And thenGod says that's too many. Not
the opposite of I mean, that'sthe opposite of what we would
think. And then gets gets itdown to 10,000. And then God
says that's too many and it goesdown to 300. And at that point,

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there is no way that Gideon inhis natural flesh is going to
get any glory or know that like,there's, we did not do this
ourselves, this has to only beGod. And, and his, his plan, his
power, and his presence beingall over the place there. And
they were victorious as we know.
And so as you were just talkingabout that, that's the story

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that was just kind of in my mindand seeing how like, when even
when we're, when we think we'restrong, God's gonna bring us to
a place where he makes us weakso that he can get the glory.
And one of the ways that I meton regular basis is through
faster. And I tried to do thatat least once a year, or longer,
faster than a one day fast. Andthis year actually did, I did it

(45:45):
twice, I just felt like I neededto do another one. And just to
put myself in a position ofweakness. And because I, one of
the things I was reallybelieving for was just
encounters with the Lord. And Iwant to get to that with you in
just a moment. But I don't wantto forget to ask some of our
main questions that I have toask for every episode here. But
you know, when you just like onthe, on the road to Emmaus, the

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disciples were walking withJesus, but they had no clue that
it was him at the moment untilhe sits down at the table with
them, he blesses the food breaksthe bread, their eyes are
opened, and then poof, he'sgone. And then Luke 2432, they
turn to each other and say,weren't our hearts burning
within us along the way as hewas revealing the Scriptures to
us? You know, and I think youkind of already, you probably

(46:31):
shared the story that kind ofbest fits this in your life. But
as you look back at your liferight now, where do you see
Jesus now that you didn't feelhim in the moment? Because I
want to learn from that. And Iwant to be able, I want our
audience to be able to be betterequipped for realizing that in
the moment so that we don't lookback and say, I missed it.

Where do I see Jesus now that I have not
recognized in the past, youknow, again, I'm going to I'm
going to reflect on the factthat I'm at this new level of
understanding his weakness, andmy weakness, not his his
strength, but my weakness andembracing my weakness. One of

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the things that the Lord askedme to give up this summer was my
spiritual gifts. Now this isthat's it was very interesting.
sounds odd. Yeah. Does let metell you why. Because I had held
them up to Hi, my, my teachinggifts, this revelation that God
gives me a lot of times I'm, heuses me to teach some very, very

(47:43):
difficult hard passages, thingsto help people learn and grow in
their relationship with him. Buthe actually had me give that up
this summer, in order to make aswitch over okay, to a greater
understanding of his weakness,he I consider my teaching gifts
to be a very, very stronggifting that I have, yes, I

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operate, you know, as, as in theoffice of profit. And, you know,
I have other offices that Icarry, but that protect my
teaching gift is something thatthis is why I published so many
books, right? It's because of alot of teaching, writing. And
people want to know things theywant to know things about the
ascension, about heaven, aboutglory, until the purchase of
books about angels, things ofthis sort. But the Lord began to

(48:27):
really speak to me about howthat gifting is getting in the
way of how he wants to use me inother arenas. And I need to
begin to lay that gift down, andI need to harness it. So that
each time I'm invited to speaksomewhere, I also operate in
another giftings, you know, andhe wants his glory to come

(48:50):
forth. And I can get very, veryfocused on teaching certain
passages and doing certainthings like that, even though I
know God wants people to learnthis stuff, right. But to be
able to set that aside, whenit's time that he just wants to
do a whole service. It's amiracle healing. And he doesn't
want me to be teaching specificpassages on the Hebrew and the

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Greek. And so I have to give upthat gift in order to gain him
moving in a way. There's ascripture that talks about how
the apostle Paul said, I didn'tcome to you with persuasive
words. He said, when he wasspeaking to the people, he says,
But I came to you, in ademonstration of My Spirit and

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of power is what he said so thatyour faith might be increased.
And so one of the things thatGod had been working with me on
is yes, Candace. Yeah, you know,I've given you all this, this
revelation from heaven, you'rewriting books, you're doing all
this kind of stuff. But I wantto use you in this season in a
different way. And each time youcome up to the plate, you come

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up batting from some of this,and he's like, I need you to
surrender more to me so that wecan begin to Start moving in a
greater demonstration of MySpirit and power. And so one of
your strengths, or one of thethings that I've strengthened
you in over the years is yourunderstanding of the word. And
listen, I wouldn't even be inthe seat today talking with you

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if it had not been for the Wordof God, because the word of God
is God. And the word is power inevery respect. And I know that
and I know when people hear theword, their faith is increased
to go to next level. We knowthat all throughout the world,
God, but the Lord had beenteaching me Listen, there's many
times that I'm calling you tominister, and you come in with a
such a strong word. And yes, I'mtelling you, these are the

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scriptures that you need tominister. But you need to also
balance that with spirit andpower demonstration, he said.
And so he was teaching me to letgo of some of my old anchors,
because I'll tell you sometimeswhen I come up to preach, one of
my anchors is the word ma holdon to this, I'm gonna hold on to
this, right. I mean, this is myprep to go and do that. When you

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walk in Spirit and the power ofthe Spirit and demonstration of
His power. It's now withpersuasive words, you have no
idea what he's going to do, youhave no idea. So he has said to
me, of, of sending down what isa strain that we have
established to now taking on agreater weakness, but now seeing
move in some of the mightiestways I've ever seen a move. I

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just did a seven day revival inHawaii was the most amazing
thing. And I set aside some ofthe heavy word teaching that I
bring forth. And he broughtforth a demonstration of His
Spirit, empower the increase offaith of each and every place
that I had the chance tominister and me, I'm ministered
to, we minister to so manypeople, but on top of him by

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Minister to a lot of leaders. Imean, when I was in Hilo,
Hawaii, I minister to one of theoldest revival churches there.
And we had, we had leaders fromall over the place come and, and
sit under that demonstration ofthe Spirit and power that night
so that they could see and sothey could engage and so that
they could be a part of seen howthe glory of God operates. And

(52:05):
then, you know, in Honolulu, youknow, I ministered there. And it
was just really powerful how theglory of God came in. And people
were like, you know, I disappearwhen the glory of God comes out,
there was somebody who didtestimony, they're like, I've
never experienced the glory ofthe Lord. But then I went to
look for Candace, and she wasn'teven there. But God's touching
everyone, they're weeping, andhe's healing every single person

(52:25):
in the house, they don't need tosee well. They don't need to see
me, what am I there for? I'm notthere for anything. He's come to
minister to his people, whatgood are mine, he's, the king is
there. He's kind of Minister tohis people, I need to get out of
the way. Just remove myself. Sothese are the things that we
learn and we grow in, and I'mgrowing just like everybody

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else. And I'm being challengedby just like everybody else. And
he's asking me to give upthings, even good things, even
like our spiritual giftings, laythem on the altar, and then
watch and see what Goddetermines to do around you by
faith. Because it takes a lot offaith to lay down even the
giftings that you and God haveperfected over the years. You

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let him down. And then you watchand see what else is he gonna
raise up but is there's aweakness there. So it's a
weakness, because you don't knowhow you're going to be perceived
by the people. You don't evenknow what God is going to do.
You got to keep setting asideyourself. It's risky to set
yourself aside every single timeand especially publicly.

Wow, wow. That's powerful. There's a lot that you
just said there that I'm lookingforward to editing this episode,
because I get to hear thatagain, and just pause it and
process those things. And Iencourage people that are
listening to actually do that aswell to go back and listen to
just, I just felt like I wasdrinking from a firehose with

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that answer. So that was thatwas really good. my follow up
question is, if you, yourselfnow could go back in time and
visit a younger version ofcannabis? What advice would you
give that younger version andwhat's happening in your life
that you would want to receivethat

I would tell my younger version to rest more
and work less, I would tell myyounger version, that God will
bring you to the places thathe's calling you just fine. You
don't need to fight your waythere. You don't even need to
try really hard to get there.
Because he's not concerned abouthow hard you work or how hard
you try for the vision that itis that he's given you. He knows

(54:25):
he can bring it to pass. He justwants to be in relationship with
you. I would tell my youngerversion to Shabbat more. Take
your one day a week and do whatthe Old Testament says and allow
the giver to give you what youneed in the day. Set it aside.
He knows what Shabbat is allabout, you know, Shabbat is

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about the fact that then whenthe Lord brought them manna from
heaven, he told them I'll giveyou a double portion on day six
because day seven, I don't wantyou to do any work. And Shabbat
was representative to all theother nations that the nation of
Israel who served their God bytaking a day of rest one day a

(55:08):
week. And so when we determinedto do that, John, in our culture
today, what we're saying iswe're determining not to work
when the world is expecting usto, even when other ministries
or other relationships areexpecting us to minister on that
day, or on that time that weshould enter into a space of

(55:28):
rest. And so it took a challengefor the Israelites, they got
scared when they thought thatthey weren't going to pick up on
day seven, they got scared, someof them took way too much food,
they didn't obey God, and itturned into mangoes, right? So
we get scared when we thinkabout what would it be like to
rest all day, and maybe for morethan one day, but multiple days.

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And see there's a test of faithright there. So Shabbat is about
faith is what it's about. It'sabout stepping into next realms
of faith. It's about believingGod for what we can obtain on
our own. And what we can't workhard enough to gain. And so I
think our culture in our worldtoday says work harder, do more,
be this be that How about yourrest more, and then watch God be

(56:13):
who he wants to be in andthrough you. People want to walk
in signs, miracles, wonders, itmeans letting more go, not
taking more one, I would havetold my younger self, listen,
you know, you don't have to havekill yourself in ministry or
anything else in due time, Godwill position you exactly where

(56:34):
you need to be. But you'll havegreater wisdom, if you choose to
learn how to rest more, becausethe revelation that you'll
receive from Heaven only comesin rest. See, here's the key
folks. Listen, this greatrevelation you want doesn't come
because you're banging it out.
It comes because you're restingand he gives it to you. That was

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the beauty of Shabbat. It saidthat God gave them the manna.
God gave us the inheritance.
See, there's key words here.
They're about what God does notwhat we do. So the whole story
is about is about us,relinquishing who we are
surrendering who we aresurrendering our will they he

(57:20):
might come through and do whatonly He can do. That's what I
tell my younger self, do enjoyGod more and work a whole lot
less.

Yeah, that is great advice. And, you know, as
I was just thinking about thewhole concept of manna and how
they weren't supposed to pick itup on the seventh day, I'm sure
that that first day, that firstseventh day that they weren't
supposed to pick it up, or youknow that they were just not
sure exactly what was going tohappen. But it got easier and

(57:52):
easier. Because they then sawGod's faithfulness in that
process. And he encountered themin new ways all the time.
They're, you know, I our time isrunning a little bit short. But
I teased earlier that you'vebeen you've had encounters. Do
we have enough time that youcould lead us in in some sort of
a restful encounter right nowsince that's been a theme since

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we've been talking about that?
And kind of explain about that,because I know that was such a
powerful moment that we had,that was not recorded in the
previous interview that you andI did, just because it flowed
out of it was there was anoverflow after we had stopped
recording, or that charisma newsstory.

Yes, that was a good moment, wasn't it? I have
a quick one that we can do rightnow. It's not this Yeah, please,
the one that I took you throughthe royal banquet experience, if
people are interested in that,all they have to do is go to my
website at Candace Smith mn.com.
And I've got a CD there thatwill help them be able to, it's
called releasing righteousness,I believe it's all about how to,

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to walk through that faithactivation, the process of going
to the road table, and it's inalignment with my releasing
Heaven Book. And so I just wantto leave people with that if
they want to do the same onethat you and I write right up
with, but

this one, I'll make sure to put that link in in
the Episode Notes so people cancan get that too. So wonderful.
Okay.

So one of the things that so we can quickly do
this, but at the same time, havethe experience we want is in
Luke chapter five, Jesus speaksto the disciples about the fact
that it's time to cast theirnets again, and it says in Luke
chapter five that they hadtoiled all night when Jesus had

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come to them and said, you know,let's go out fishing. And they
were like, you know, Father,don't you know, I mean, they
said, Master, they said, Master,don't you know we've been doing
this all day long we've beentoiling is what they said, we've
been toiling. Actually that wordbroken down. The Greek is the
word reason we've beenreasoning. Have we been

(01:00:01):
reasoning and reasoning? And sothey, they were in a place where
they had been hoping for acatch, but they hadn't caught
one yet. All right. And so theyused up all of their reason,
their their soul was fatigued,their mind will and emotions
were fatigued as well as theirbody was dig, here comes Jesus
and he says, Listen, you know,Cast your net on the left side,

(01:00:23):
and then they say, you know,nevertheless, whatever you say,
Okay, we'll do. All right. Sothey shifted from the place of
hope, hope and toiling. Okay,listen, we toil in our hope. I'm
going to explain that in just asecond to now a place of faith
where they grabbed a hold of thefaith, of the master the faith

(01:00:45):
of God. Apostle Paul tells us inGalatians, chapter two, verse
20, that he's been crucifiedwith Christ and He no longer
lives, but Christ lives in himand the life he now lives. He
lives by the faith of God, okay,not faith in God, that's a
different translation. It's thefaith of God. Okay. So in this
point, in Luke, chapter five,the disciples are tapping into

(01:01:06):
the faith of the master whosays, throw over the nets for a
cat. All right. So I'm going totake you to a place right now
that goes beyond hope, to aplace of faith, then beyond
faith to a place of glory. Allright. So I want everybody to
think for just a moment, I wantyou to think about what you've
been hoping God for. Listen,we've all been hoping for

(01:01:30):
something. Maybe you're hopingfor a new job. Maybe you're
hoping for a new apartment.
Maybe you're hoping for a newrelationship. Maybe you're
hoping for some money, you know,whatever your hope is. Okay. Now
hope means that you're stillasking but have not yet
received. that's it hope methat's good. Hope means that
you're frustrated because youkeep sending up prayers that

(01:01:50):
aren't being answered. This iswhat hope means. This is why
toiling okay, they were toilingin that they were hoping for
this great catch, but in theirtoiling they weren't seeing now
somebody's listening right nowand you've been hoping for
something I want you to thinkabout what you've been hoping

(01:02:10):
for. Just take a brief moment ofsilence here. Think about what
you're hoping for something inyour health finances. You've
been asking God but you haven'tgotten it yet now picture that
in your mindnow I want you to feel even your

(01:02:43):
frustration your anger yourinability to move forward your
obstacle that's what toil feelslike you're not breaking through
so you're starting to loseyou're losing hope you're losing

(01:03:11):
faith you're not believing inthat spot. Because you keep
asking and it's not happened nowI want you to picture it
finished as though it's happenedalready

(01:03:40):
thing that's frustrating youpicture it complete perfect
All right. Now hold on to thatright there. Hold on to that

(01:04:08):
increase this finances thererelationship that hell that
apartment hold on to it rightnow God's going to shift you

(01:04:30):
into a being finishedcompletely. You can see it
finished.
He says I want you to believe meagain. One more time. Now I want
you to repent. When should askhim for forgiveness for how you

(01:04:53):
got so frustrated or angry orfelt like If you couldn't do it,
talk to him about that rightnow. Is what's happening is all
those forces are being brokenoff this hindering forces. You
say, Lord, forgive me. I didn'tbelieve you. So sorry, father.

(01:05:21):
Shift right now into faith.
Faith is a substance now feelthat faith right now it's a
substance. You can touch it. Youshould be crossing over to where
it's done. That thing is hole.

(01:05:44):
It's not missing. It's notbroken. Glory right now, glory.
Okay, now you should bebreathing easier. And you're
shifting into glory. You'reshifting into glory right there.
That's the release. Right there.
See, he's gonna do it. Now. He'sjust start asking Joy right

(01:06:07):
there. He's gonna do it. Becauseyour faith in his faith had
become one. Now you're sureright there. In the mighty name
of Jesus. Glory. Hallelujah.
worthy man. Jesus, whoa, do youfeel that John?

John Matarazzo (01:06:32):
I definitely feel lighter. And I feel joy.
And just, there's more hope.
Again, you know, the things thatI've been hoping for and praying
for and believing for. It's hardto hold on to some of those
things whenever you don't seethat. But I just felt like,
like, I just got a shot ofenergy and a shot of peace and a

(01:06:53):
shot of just faith again. Andwow.

Candice Smithyman (01:07:00):
Wow. And that's Luke, chapter five folks.
Just read it. Right there.
That's exactly where Jesus tookthem. See, John, you're not
toiling anymore, right. No moretoil. You're not concerned. You
know, you're gonna make somephone calls. Those that are
listening. You're gonna justmake some phone calls you're
gonna do you got yourstrategies. And guess what? It's

(01:07:21):
flow and see everything thatblocked that up right now. It's
been removed every hindrance andblockade, every enemy formed
against you prosper, and thatthat was prospering is no longer
prospering it is now been bound.
In the mighty name of Jesus, noenemy formed against you shall
prosper. Glory, you know,entered dunamis power, in your

(01:07:44):
weakness. He's come forth.
Hallelujah. Glory. Amen. Thankyou, Jesus. Amen.

Thank you, Candace, for leading us through
that they taking the Word of Godand what they were experiencing
then. And really focusing onthat and bringing practical
application in a spiritual way.
That's really what you just did.
You didn't take us throughsomething that was mystical, or

(01:08:18):
you weren't casting any spellsor doing anything weird. You
read the Bible, you told thestory. And we just dissected it
that's really meditating on theWord of God. And what we feel,
as we're meditating on the Wordof God is an encounter with him.
And there's, there's more tothat, but I'm just kind of
summarizing that. And I'lldefinitely be putting the link

(01:08:40):
to canvasses site, and what shementioned in the Episode Notes,
so that you can just click thatand it'll take you right to her
site. And you can learn moreabout that. I always enjoy
having the opportunity to talkwith you this and just to you're
one of those people that everytime I'm with you, I, whether it
be virtually or in person, Ifeel like I'm closer to Jesus as

(01:09:01):
a result of being with you. Soand thank you so much for
sharing your story of how God'sbrought you from this little
nine year old girl who lost herdaddy to, to now somebody that's
in love with a father, and youhave a powerful relationship
with Jesus and the Holy Spiritthat way. And thank you for

(01:09:22):
being obedient to do what Godhas called you to do. And even
taking a step back and not usingthe gifts, because God's
challenged you to rely more onHim and allow Him to be your
strength as you're weak. Sothank you so much for being here
and allowing us to join youalong your way.

Candice Smithyman (01:09:41):
Thank you, John, so much. I'm so excited to
have the opportunity to be hereand minister to your listeners,
and it really was an honor. Sowe'll have to do it again. For
sure.

I would love that. I would love that. Thank
you very much. Thank you forlistening

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