AMH Radio Conjures Up Ghost of Edgar Allan Poe with Kristy Robinett

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of Twisted Vision Twist We're hitting youright here live at the After Hours A.
I'm Studios, I'm your host,Jule Sturgis and as always Eric alson

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we are Well. Did you likethe intro music there? I did.
It was kind of retro. Itwas a little bit of a rockabilly feel
more updated. So psychobilly, yes, exactly, psycho billy music. You
gotta love it, man, Ido. Speaking of music, I went
from my very first guitar lesson todayand I didn't realize I sucked that bad.

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Well you just started, man,why I did? But my god.
You know, the guy's like,well, you know, he's a
really good teacher. He's like,well, what do you know? And
I said, well, um,a little bit, We'll show me what
you know. He says, oh, you're doing it all wrong, all
right, you're doing it all wrong. No, Actually he was a very
good teacher. And then no,he was a very I'm joking. Oh,

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he was a very good teacher,very good at it. And so
he was very cool and walked methrough the steps. And I didn't know
this, but I was using myfrets incorrectly on the guitar. Oh god,
now, because I was going tothe middle of the fret, towards
the bottom. It's the bottom,that's right. And for some reason I
had in my head that was inthe middleman, I don't know why.

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Wasn't very rock and roll of me, of course, But it's physics.
It's just physics, simple thing aboutit. The closer you get to the
fret, the easier it'll be topush it down exactly exactly. Hey,
I gotta ask you, what isnew? I know we haven't mentioned it
for a while, but what isnew over in America's Most Haunted America's most

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Haunted is rock rock rocking. Asthe perspicacious among our audience has already picked
up, we have blended our showsinto this Thursday night configuration. The the
Juggernaut that is after ours am hasbeen joined by the semi juggernaut that was

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America's most Haunted Radio and we arenow. Boy, we got to get
a snappier title, I'll tell you, but now it's After Hours Am America's
Most Haunted. So to reflect thatreality, we have all kinds of super
cool little digital elves at work updatingthe America's Most Haunted website to incorporate After

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Hours AM. It will now represent, it will soon represent both brands.
It will encapsulate all of that contentin material, will bring in storytellers there
as well. It will be anamazing thing. So we're just waiting for
them to finish that work up.They actually told me today they've been very
good about checking in all always agood sign. They checked in today and

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said, we have done the logosfor the basic new logos for the basic
brands of America's Most Haunted and AfterHours AM. Now all they have to
do as far as logos is alogo for the two actual radio shows,
After Hours AM Storytellers and After OursAM America's Most Haunted. So there will

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in essence there will end up beingfour logos to be plastered a all over
Hill and Dale and I am veryvery excited about this, and other than
the fact that Tuesday night. Wehad consistent F bombs. I know,
it wasn't that. You know,they were good as well. Yeah,

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they're good guests. I really enjoyedtalking about punk rock. But man,
did they live the punk rock lifestyleor what? Or what is right?
Yeah, we're talking to the leadsinger of a band that, honestly I
had not heard of get Dead toomuch before, you know, I mean,
there's a lot of punk bands outthere. They're on the right label.
They're on Fat Records, great label, amazing track record. This is

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their twenty fifth anniversary. There willbe a Fat Records tour later this year.
But anyway, I had not specificallyheard this band a whole lot prior
to them being booked for the show, because they were appearing. They are
appearing i should say, at punkrock Bowling in Vegas this weekend. So
yeah, I mean, you couldnot act for a more punk rock interview.

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The guy was outside in the alleybehind his house by a dumpster,
chasing a pit bull, chasing apit bull, and during the course of
the interview the numerous F bombs weredropped. Nothing malicious, It's just a
matter of speech, you know.Us to a member of the military shall

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we say or um, you know, certain members of the military. He
was basically using the F bomb.And not to rip on the guy because
he was a great guest, sowe do a pre come on the show.
But basically, you know, inthat culture they use the F bomb
in place of commas. It's amodifier. It modifies everything, modifies everything.

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Have you ever heard? Part ofmy problem was as as the new
guy, the new guy host wiseon the show, I just really didn't
realize what a problem that that wouldbe. It it didn't occur to me
the extent of our over the airwaves. Therefore, FCC affiliated listenership, so

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they went very quickly, and Iguess that was a good thing. Yeah,
they didn't hang around long. No, they they heard the first one
or two and they were gone,gone, money. They're probably playing opera
or something. Let's yeah, Imean it was on some ways. It
was one of the most interesting interviewsI've ever done. If you if you

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were trying to get at the essenceof your subject, oh my god,
we got at Yes we did.Yes, I mean you were living the
life. But unfortunately it kind ofscrewed up the whole radio side of things,
and I guess even what I kneweven less prior to all this happening,
I didn't realize even our internet radioconnections or outlets are also really quite

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regulated and they don't want to hearthat kind of stuff either. So we're
kind of a uh, we're atan impact. What have you decided?
Well, you know, I willtry to do some editing, some creative
editing in the show to get itto the masses. But if somebody truly
wants to hear that show, justgo ahead to email me and I will
provide you with a link to thatshow, to the real McCoy, to

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the real McCoy, the unvarnished punkright, but no, but the Pinnacle,
But no, this it is adultcontent, big time, it is.
I mean it really was just thelanguage, but there's a lot of
langue. There's a lot of language. You're correct, not subject matter,

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it's language, but it was.It was some it was some rough language.
He was a colorful character. Imean, it's it makes the rich
tapestry of their industry. It's colorfulcharacters. I'm looking at that rich tapestry.
Yeah, I mean it was sofun in so many ways, but
sadly from the purely radio perspective,it was something of a disaster. Lets

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It was a tough, tough,tough interview. But you know, I
really do appreciate them coming on though, because you know, my gosh,
how often do you get to talkto a punk rock legend. Well,
not that often. And our otherguy, our other music guy, Dave
Wakeling from the English Feet now,now, he was outstanding. And this

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was so fun for me personally becauseI interviewed Dave when we were both considerably
younger, at the very first USfestival out outside of la way back in
nineteen eighty two. So think aboutthat nineteen eighty two. Wow, you
know, did you have a hairat that point, I had a fistful

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of hair. Well, see,I'm bald, so I can make fun
of people with out hair because Itruly am a Q ball. So yes,
well I'm sure part of that isvoluntary, but nonetheless I understand.
Yeah, I'm still sort of pretendingto to hold on to the you know,
vestiges. I gotta tell you something. There should be a study done

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on me because I have been usinglisten to this, think about this.
I've been using Rogain for like twentyplus years, okay, and does let
me plus does it? Man?Has it affected your brain at all?
I don't know? How would Iknow? I guess that's a great question.
I have to compare it to howwould you know? Has it worked?

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Has it done what they promised?It's hard to say, too,
because what would I look like withoutit? I don't Yes, it probably
has. I probably have more youknow, vestigial sort of you know,
remnant harror on the top of myhead than I would have. I probably
by now. Looking at my father, for example, by the time he

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was my age, he was definitelyball old on top of his head.
So I am not exactly that.So I guess that that little bit that
I held onto is what is whatRogaine has done for me? Is it
worth it? Who the hell knows? Well? You know, good for
you though, really good for you. See, I just kind of let

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it all go. I just shaveit. I'm vain, man, you
know that well, I do.And that's okay though, that's okay in
vain. I am fifty six yearsold, and I'm no less vain than
I was thirty years ago. AndI'm sure your wife would all agree that
you're a sexy beast. I am, you know, but what can you
do? You know you're born thatway. Well, yeah, either you
got it or you don't got it. Yeah, it's nothing. I don't

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take any credit for it. Man, It's just that's the way the jeans
came out. God God smiled onyou. And he said he he was
covering his eyes from the glare.Well, you know, I guess,

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I guess I could see that hewas turning aside. Put a hat on.
But getting back to nineteen, stopusing row gain, Stop using row
gain. It never mention for youyou'd have hair. I would have been
gain. Yeah, that's right.Embrace what I've made, Eric, is
what he's saying in Embrace it.But there's nothing wrong in vain. I'm
vain as well. There's nothing wrongwith it. And uh, well,

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anyhow, getting back your story.You you interviewed Banking and the English Feet,
the whole band, uh, justright off of the stage, the
big main stage at the US Festival. It was an amazing, overwhelming thing.
In fact, I wrote a storyobviously about I was covering it for
the The easy Reader, which isthe weekly it still is in the South

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Bay area of southern California. TheHermosa Manhattan, Ridondo Beach, Torrance area
of LA and so I was coveringthe US Festival for them and it was
just this amazing experience just across theboard, getting to do all these interviews.
The show itself, there were hundredsof thousands of people there. It

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was enormous. And this was theone. I don't know if you remember
what the S Festival was, andit ran for a few years. I
forget how many exactly, but thiswas the very first one. And this
was sponsored and funded and put onby Steve Wozniak of Apple really gone from
Apple in nineteen eighty two. Interesting, so he was in on it.

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He was the guy. He fundedit. It was his idea and got
to hit him. Yeah, Isay that really amazing thing. It was
so fun. And the English Beat, I gotta tell you, they were
one of my favorite bands at thetime. I mean they were super hot
at the time, and it wasgreat to see him. The US Festival
was very well curated, the bands, and it was over a course of

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like three days, so they hadthemes. So he had kind of a
new wave day, you had ahard rock metally day, and then you
had a little bit of everything.Day. It was Van Halen, it
was Bowie, it was Straight Cats, it was the police. Wow,
big, big, big, bignames. That is really really cool.
I remember did I say the clash, no Flash, no England clash.

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England is calling you know, theywere, they were calling me. It
was amazing. So the memories ofthat, and when we talked to Dave
Tuesday night, I was amazed howwell he remember? You know, I
got to ask you the question.I got to ask you the question all
the listeners are curious about back ineighty two when you were interviewing all these

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big punk rock stars. Did youhave to live the punk rock lifestyle like
color your hair, smoke cigarettes ordo something to fit in or were they
very open to just talking? Ohno, no, they were all.
This was one of these things wherethe event itself you could tell they had

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a contract with every band and everyband had to talk to the press,
so they just wheeled them on outright and I'm just there among the press.
But once they get to you,then you sort of peel off in
the individual interviews. Right, okay, I'm gonna talk to you today Wakeling

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now from English speed okay, Andthen I'm gonna. So they would bring
out a band at a time,and the band of the field questions and
then you'd kind of peel off andstart talking to them individually. So interesting.
I mean, I lived the lifestyle, not really. I remember,
I'm from southern California. I livedat the beach literally at that time,
across the street from Hermosa Beach,so literally a surfer. So I was

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a beach guy. I was asemi surfer. I was more of a
body surfer. What had happened withmy surfing life was right when I was
learning to actually surf, to standup on a surfboard. That's when we
moved to Ohio. When I wasgoing in, not much surfing going on
in Ohio and there's no surf inCleveland a very famous song by the Euclid

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Beach Band, There's no Surf inCleveland in the mode of the Beach Boys.
It's actually a classic tune. Soyeah, those eight years of high
school and college, I was inOhio and not doing a whole lot of
surfing. And then I went backafter college and was back in las throughout
the eighties, all of the eighties, and back on the beach, and

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I did start surfing again, butby then, you know, and I
was adult, and I was marriedand started having kids and all that,
so I was not able to dedicatemyself to these surfing lifestyle. But definitely,
you know, I'm a beach kindof guy. I'm very very comfortable
there. I love the beach,I like to swim, I like the
body surf, so on so forth. So that's kind of where I was

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coming from. But you know,that's what a lot of the people who
were at the show were too,and a lot of the bands for that
matter. You know, even ifyou were from elsewhere. Believe me,
a lot of people move to SouthernCounty. Oh yeah, they do.
That's that's a really populated area California, really nice area California, very desirable
to live well. Weatherwise, there'sa lot of downsides, and I honestly,

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I haven't missed a whole lot ofearthquakes, race riots. You know,
there's lots of downsides. Number one, just overcrowding. Period. Yeah,
that is a little crossing impacts everything. It impacts the cost of housing,
it impacts traffic. Traffic is abysmal. It gets worse every year.
Every time I go back and Ihaven't been actually back in a couple of

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years. Now. Every time Igo back, it seems worse. I
wouldn't imagine it does with the smogand the traffic at all. Oh No,
the smog has improved a lot,because man, they California, of
course, was the first state toreally lay down the law as far as
emission standards. So I mean justyear by year since the seventies, the
air quality has improved. Now,what's worse every time is the traffic.

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Traffic sucks growing. It's a growingpopulation, keeps going, keeps getting bigger,
no matter what. They don't haveany water, they have earthquakes,
they're congested, everything's expensive as hell, and it still just keeps growing because
people like the weather. That's right, it's the weather. But anyhow,
we got about ten minutes left beforewe you know, invite or gast on

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I'd be Christie Robin. That's right. No, commedia a little paranormal news,
don't we do. Let's jump rightinto it. We're gonna whip over
to Twitter feed at a m Haunted, I encourage you to follow a long
at am Haunted, America's most haunteddoy. All right, So coming to

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TV. Check this out. Areyou a George Romero fan? I love
George Romero. One of my bestinterviews ever on radio was with George Romero.
Fantastic. I have never talked tohim, so you are ahead of
me on that one. I'm ahuge fan too. And what's going on
with him is he and some otherpeople are adapting his latest project, which

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is a comic book series called Empireof the Dead, and it's being adapted
for a TV series. Really Orbarrowis going TV And it's not just zombies.
They've added in vampires. You knowwhat. It's gonna finally give the
walking get a run for its money. It's possible. That is a good

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point. He is the creator ofthe modern day zombie. He is the
absolute creator. There was no suchthing as the zombie as we now think
commonly think of it. The formerlydead hordes brought back to life by some
disaster of one kind or another,whether it be a comment from outer space

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or a virus, or whatever thecase may be. Do you like zombie
movies generally? Yes? Now doyou like the slow and creepy zombie or
do you like these running zombies thatthey have? Oh? I probably ultimately
slow, just because that's how Ithink of them. But I did like
World War Z. It was prettygood. And then the remake of Donna

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the Dead wasn't too bad. Thatwas fast too. They were fast,
You're right, and then where theirfastest of all though, is the twenty
eight days Later. Yeah, there'ssome argument amongst the zombie fans that there
weren't truly zombies. They were infectedwith a virus. True, they weren't
dead, so you know, therewas There's that whole thing. But that's
cool. It'd be great to seeGeorge come back to TV, and he

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hasn't done anything for TB truly sinceTales in the Dark Side. Wow.
Yeah, it'll be cool and it'llbe interesting to see what he does with
this combination of zombies and vampires.Apparently there will be a war between zombies
and vampires. That would be cool. That'd be cool to see. Because
the zombies can't think at all,the vampires can think. I'd have to

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say the vampires would take it.I'm just saying that they have quite an
advantage, but zombies probably just guessing, have the advantage of numbers. Always
where the zombies get you, butyou can't kill a vampire unless this stake
him through the heart. And Idon't last time I look, zombies don't
do so well tools. It's agood point. I don't know how smart

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these zombies are. I don't knowif he's changing the rules at all.
We will have to see how thatplays. That would be great. I'm
looking forward to seeing that. Okay, So everyone knows about the Locknest monster,
right, and one of the worldliterally, one of the world's biggest
tourist destination tourist draws is Locknest becauseof the monster. But what a lot

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of people who haven't been there don'trealize is how beautiful, fool just striking
amazing that it is with or withoutthe monster. If the monster comes along,
great you win the striking lottery.But it's a beautiful, beautiful,
interesting place nonetheless, And we havea nice picture up there. There's a

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whole little section in National Geographic aboutLocke. Yes, goat check it out.
And speaking of zombies, Elijah Wood, who who has gone from being
just an actor, very successful actor. Of course he was Frodo obviously,
Yes, he was in the Lordof the Rings. He was a child
actor, a very successful child actor, but he's now making movies, and

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a lot of the movies he isputting together are horror movies. And his
latest is a horror comedy called Cooties. And he's a teacher, and Rain
Wilson is one of them. Lookslike a really funny cast actually, and
the teachers he's misfit. Teachers haveto band together other when all the students

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in their elementary school turn into zombies. More zombies. You know, zombies
are everywhere these days. They are, they have totally taken over pop culture.
Kids turn into zombies. Teachers mustbatten together. Elijah Wood's new movie
You're not gonna want to miss.You can check it out on YouTube over
there. I guess a little clipof it as well, so oh yes,
check it out after the show.So here's something I don't know if

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I can't imagine how I've missed this, but I have. This is the
first time that I have seen this. Have you heard of this thing called
Bat's Day? I have not.Apparently this has been going on for a
while now, and it started withjust a gathering of eighty people. This

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year, they're expecting ten thousand gothsat Disneyland. Whoa ten thousand goths descending
upon La Yeah, that will beinteresting. Ten thousand Gothic people that dress
that way, that lived that lifestyle, ascending on the happiest place on earth.

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Oh my god. And think ofthe lines at the Haunted Mansion.
Yeah, no kidding, You'll beable to go on every other ride except
for the Haunted Mansion. And thisis a whole weekend thing. Sunday,
the thirty first is when they actuallyhead into Disneyland. But Friday there's a
bunch of other activities and this allcenters around, well, the Haunted Mansion

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is where Bat's Day originally courts from. But there's events all weekend long.
Friday, the Happy Haunts, SwingingWake, costume celebration, bunch of others,
and it's not even October. Saturday, more stop going on Haunted Mansion
group tribute art show. And thenSunday Katie Bar the door are ten thousand

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goths. Oh my gosh. Youknow. And what's funny is it's not
even holl it's not even um October. It's nowhere near it, you know,
And normally they reserve that kind ofstuff for October. I'm not sure
why it's this weekend. I meanthis weekend, there are so many events

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and activities. I don't know ifthere's any other weekend, possibly fourth of
July. I don't know. It'sjust where there's so many events. It's
just some strange you know, thistime of year, you know, Memorial
Day weekend. Yeah, you wouldthink that they would be more of an

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October field for that. But thenagain, I could be wrong. I
don't I don't know. I'll haveto look further into it. Why Memorial
Day weekend is when they hold this. Moving along, let's let's go back
in time. How about three pointthree million years a bunch of archaeologists were

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out cruising around. They were headingfor a site for a dig site in
Kenya. They took a wrong turn. The wrong turn led them to the
oldest stone tools yet discovered. Andthese are not humans. This is three
point three million years ago. Thesewere humans using stone tools in Kenya.

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Three point three million years ago.Huh, interesting very tools tool stone tools
that they're dating. That blows alot of things round of the water.
Man. Well, I think I'mrecalling this is from memory. I'm not
exactly sure, but I think thisdiscovery, this just happened in the last
couple of days, or at leastit was just published in the last couple

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of days. This sends back whatthey believed to be the first use of
tools. It's gonna seven hundred andfifty thousand years. I was gonna say
that that pushes that even back further. That's really cool because when you when
you think of the haman Hamanens iswhat they're called the pre Hamanids, which

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is what we are. Um theuh, if you think of it,
you think of Lucy, right,And Lucy's from about that era, the
one, the one the leaky,the skeleton, the Leaky's found super famous,
Yeah, in that general area actually, and she's around that age something
like that. So she's a tinylittle thing and really, frankly looks much

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more like an ape than like ahuman. And imagine her using stone tools.
That that really changes the game ina lot of ways because it pushes
human evolution way back. It'll beinteresting to see as we move forward what
else we uncover. Well, they'resaying, now, you know, there's

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no reason to think at this pointthat these are the earliest. There's no
reason. Yeah, I mean,there's there is no reason to think that.
I'm sure that if we look really, really hard, we will find
even more primitive tools that are older, because these actually look pretty well made.
To be honest with you, itlooks like somebody knew what they're doing
and they first made this tool,like they've seen this tool before, because

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generally when you see a prototype firsttime tool, it looks way rougher than
this. I agree, they lookvery impressive. And they were talking about
there were weapons they were chipping offflint to use for the sharp edge.
They were scrapers, did various things, very very impressive and who knows how

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far back this is going to go. Speaking of ancient treasures, this is
just heartbreaking. So our friends atIsis, the scum of the Middle East,
have now taken over the area inIraq called Palmyra or Palmyra, and

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there are more yet more ancient treasures, archaeological treasures that are in this area
now under ICE's control. And ofcourse when they have gained control over ancient
treasures before, they've destroyed Yeah,they've they've they've destroyed them, so everybody
um can't enjoy them anymore. Wecan't learn from them. You know,

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you gotta love the isis. Yeah, they're so enlightened, don't you think.
Yeah, they're a great group ofguys. Let me tell you they
rule. So it is really kindof amazing. Um, you know what's
in this general area. Some ofthese these things, you know, Hadrian's
gait, my goodness, I've certainlyheard of that. And there's a desert

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citadel. I mean, you know, these are ancient, ancient treasures that
have withstood the predations of time time, over thousands of years, and now
these butt munches are potentially going todestroy. Oh, they're gonna ruin it
for everybody. You know that.You know, they're gonna ruin it for
everybody. They always due, youknow, they always lose their heads over

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everything. And Temple of Ball that'sthe other one. The Temple of Ball
be Apostrophe a l which I've alsocertainly heard of Temple of Balls also in
that territory. So let's hope thatthe the other side, the side that
we're supporting. Um, I guesstakes over before more damage can exactly stop

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them, stop them now before theydestroy everything. But if you want to
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the whole guitar thing. My handskind of hurt, man. But anyhow,
man, I know what sucks.I'm we have a great guest coming
out. We have Christy robin Nettecoming. So you're not gonna walk away
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back to After Hours Am. Yeah, we're that nuclear weapon, that mass
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(36:09):
Fruit is a word right, Yeah, but that one's okay. I
don't think it's the F word thoughthat they're talking about okay, nor is
flipping or any other euphemism. Howabout fun fun? It's good? That
was so fun and fun? Thatwas flipping fun man or fun? Yes?

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Yes, well, Eric, whodo we have on tap tonight?
I know we've got a super awesomeguest. She is super awesome. I
can't believe it's already been a year. I was just looking back since we
spoke and had such a great time. Christie Robinette is a professional psychic medium
and author who began seeing spirits atthe age of three. When she was

(36:51):
eight, the spirit of her deceasedgrandfather helped her escape from a would be
kidnapper, and it was then thatRobinette realized the other side wasn't so far
away and could be of an immenseimportance to the living. When Christie was
thirteen, she met the most fascinatingspirit guide of them all, Edgar Allan

(37:12):
Poe, Yes, the author notthe Deadest Forevermore. Her latest book tells
the true story of how the spiritof Edgar Allan Poe helped Christie fulfill her
destiny as a writer and psychic medium. There is so much more to tell,
but welcome to the show. ChristieRobinette, yay, thank you so

(37:34):
much for having me on. Yeah, not a problem, Agnar Allan Poe
say, I know, right,it sounds so far fetched, and it
still is kind of crazy when Itry to explain it to somebody who absolutely
has no idea, especially anyone thathas no idea about the metaphysical psychic world,

(37:58):
well you know, they pretty muchgive you that raised hiber high.
It's funny because before the show,after I did a little bit of research,
it said Eric Egnor all Pole,really Eric, and He's like,
no, just here out first,Okay, I will, don't worry.
I will. But that's really cool. Now, how did you figure out
it was Egnor Allen Poe? Iguess that's the first question of the gate

(38:19):
just I mean, did he haveany idea with him? Well? Well,
seriously, I mean pretty much everybodyknows what Po looks like, so
I mean, you definitely didn't needto figure that one out. And he
has a personality that you know isdefinitely one in a zillion. So I

(38:40):
knew immediately that it was Poe.I just didn't know why Poe and I
didn't know why me. And that'ssort of where forever More came from.
And it's interesting and sort of backup. I wrote the book, and
I didn't tell anybody. I didn'ttell my family, I didn't tell my
publisher. I didn't tell anybody exceptfor Pope. Pope knew that I was

(39:00):
writing it, and I wrote it, and I wrote it really for him
and I to sort of go throughthe travels and the journey that him and
I had gone through. And Ifinally I handed it to my husband and
I said, I really think youneed to read this. And he had
a bit of a um. Hewas stunned, like you were, you

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know, and I hate to sayskeptical, but it was amazement and it
was a yeah right, and youknow, it definitely was um surprising.
So when I handed it to mypublisher and I said, I know,
you guys probably aren't going to wantthis, but read it, you know,
just for for kicks, and um, I had a contract on my

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desk the next day. So,um, if when I always say,
you know, don't don't be sodenying of it. I give actual evidence
as to how and why. AndI always say I don't claim Poe is
my own. I know that hehelps guide several other people. He is

(40:06):
reincarnated or soul split a few timesas well, So he's not all mine.
Thank god, he's not all mine. I would imagine someone like that
of that stature in the literary world, or just as a figure like that
in history. He was quite animatedand probably you know, wow, what's

(40:28):
the word I'm looking for? Hemust have been a lot to handle.
I guess he absolutely is. ButI mean, he's extremely intelligent, and
he definitely has a side of himthat many people don't know, or at
least the media doesn't portray him outto be. It's interesting because I just
found out that PBS is doing adocumentary on him that will air next year,

(40:53):
and I'm really excited about it becauseone of my favorite actors is going
to be playing Poe and he looksjust like him. That it's creepy,
um Dennis O'Hara. So if youguys watch, you know, um,
why am I drawing a blank ifAmerican horror story? So you know he's

(41:15):
he's on that, but yeah,he um. He definitely is portrayed as
the madman, you know in inthe media of today, and his books
are so gothic and horror and youknow, very sad and depressing. But
really he had a passion and hehad a lot of love and it was

(41:36):
a lot of losses that he encounteredthrough his life that bittered him and that's
why he became such a phenomenal geniuswith his writing. Very very very interesting.
Because I'm looking a little bit.You're right, they do look very
similar to the actor to Poe.Um. That will be an interesting PBS

(41:58):
special in they because BBS, aswe know, we'll put the real deal
out there. Won't be dramatized toomuch or anything like that'll be just the
facts and it'll be really good tosee that and get that information out there.
Yeah, I'm I'm really excited.And there's been a lot of things
that m. Poe has been portrayedin that he has not been self thrilled
with, and I'll name it thefollowing. So he wasn't so thrilled with

(42:22):
being, you know, the personthat was um, you know, you
utilizing his literature to become a serialkiller. So he's aware of the pop
culture that's around him. In theway that we portray him today. Yeah,
in a really kind of cooky way, he is. And I actually
I had another radio host ask mewhy I don't blog about like channeling him

(42:47):
in blog? Yeah, twitter feedthat says stuff that Poe says. Yeah,
and I've thought of it, youknow, in my spare time,
you know, maybe, but itdefinitely is. He comes up with some
great things, he certainly does,and he really just wanted me to tell

(43:07):
the true story of what had happenedto him. And along the way,
our destinies sort of combined into one. The interesting thing with Frever Moore,
And again, I know that thisis kind of you know, nutty,
as well as that I had apast life with him, and so that
so I get a lot of questionsas to, well, why you and

(43:30):
I didn't know that at the timeeither, What did you guys do together
in your past life. So I'lltell a little blip of it. I
don't want to complain, yeah,yeah, don't. Yeah, don't give
us the whole thing, but justkind of give us a little teaser.
Sure. So, Poe obviously hadlost a lot of people in his life.
He was abandoned as a small child, lost his mom and his dad,

(43:52):
and he was given over to avery wealthy family, and then his
mom, his adopted did mom endedup passing away. So I mean he
just really he had so many deathin his life, and his siblings were
all separated, so the family thathe had really was in his family at
all. So through all of theselosses, I mean, he was a

(44:16):
writer. He loved or write,He loved to act, He loved that.
I mean, he would have beena great radio host. I mean
he really he loved anything to dowith theater. And that doesn't pay,
you know, didn't pay that.It rarely pays that. That's much,
right, Yeah, hey, kids, you want to get rich, don't

(44:36):
become a radio host or an author. So it unless you're stupid gig.
But um, so you know,he was trying his darnedist to make a
living at as being a writer,and he was just getting criticized. People
did not like him and because hetold the truth, he was a very
blunt person and so they pretty muchyou know, add a target on his

(45:01):
head. Um. He was beatenreally badly as a as a child,
his father's adopted father beat him reallybadly and he ended up having horrific migraines.
Just terrible, terrible migraines, andhe would go into almost like a
psychic vision with it, you know, sort of if you've ever had a

(45:21):
migraine, they call them auras,so you do see, you know,
strange things. But with his hewould have like psychic experiences. So so
uh scene too, I guess youcould say. So with with the past
life with myself. UM, myhusband at that time in the eighteen hundreds
had moved my kids and I tothe East Coast and he um had put

(45:49):
put me there and didn't really Iwasn't so thrilled with it. He was
a lawyer and he was a verywell known lawyer in that area, politician,
And it ended up that I wasa medium in a past life and
Poe and I had met through oneof the you know, political type of

(46:10):
affairs, and he knew that Iwas a medium, and so he would
bring me over to his house andhe sorely missed his parents and his family
and his wife that had passed away, and I actually would do seances with
him. Interesting, so it webecame we had no love affair, There

(46:30):
was nothing. He was actually friendswith my postic It really was no,
it really really was and um,I mean he had so many loves he
was he was a player. HePoe was a player, so he didn't
need me. Yeah, he actuallywas kind of like a big brother to
me. So um. He endedup getting involved in police work. He

(46:53):
was an armchair detective and he wantedreally badly to solve case. So he
started working and this is all true, this is all documented. He started
to work with Pinkerton Security and hewanted these rewards. There is a kind
of like a Jack the Ripper thingthat was going on. There was a

(47:15):
there's some serial killers that are serialkillings that were happening in the area that
he was residing, and he wantedto solve the crime. And so he
was doing his own slew thing andhe was going to sell these articles to
the local newspaper and then he wasgoing to spotlight who the killer or killers

(47:38):
were and then he ended up dyinghimself. Yeah, so he was actually
probably more than people realize into solvingthe mystery itself. Is what his big
thing was to get the mystery solvedand help the police and to get money

(48:00):
and because there really wasn't there reallywas a monetary, don't. I don't
want to make him out to besuch a martyr. I mean, he
had a big heart, but hereally wanted to be accepted as a somebody
who was serious in both writing andboth in detective work. Well yeah,
that and he married his thirteen yearold cousin, So I mean, you

(48:22):
know, that makes him kind ofan odd fellow to begin with. Yeah,
you know, that really wasn't thatodd back then, you know.
And that's another thing that people really, you know, portray as boy,
what a creeper. They really heloved her, but they really didn't have
the romantic relationship like a lot ofpeople would think. He it was convenient.

(48:43):
He loved his aunt, his motherin law. It was a very
happy even though she was sickly hiswife. It was a very happy environment
that he never had before. Theyplayed the piano, they sang. It
was just a very very uplifting umexperience for him. And he didn't want

(49:04):
to leave that. He didn't wantto go away and leave that. So
it just became natural for him tomarry her. But it really wasn't.
It's pretty much like you hear alot of stories and even ghost stories about
the guy marries you know, somebodyhe loves and then she dies and then
he marries her sister, you know, and it's like, oh, that's

(49:24):
so scathing. And most of thetime, you know, back then,
it was to take care of thekids. This was to just have that
family experience. It wasn't sexual atall. He actually had girlfriends, which
you know was while he was married. But yeah, you know, he's
gonna kill me for saying that,but yeah, he really did. He

(49:45):
had um, he really did.He had girlfriends, He had lovers.
Well, it must have been.It was a different time and place in
history. You know. No,there's still lots of people that are married
that have no no what I'm saying, it was a little that happened well
every now and again. But whatI'm saying is the cousin part, like

(50:06):
like like we touched on as adifferent time place in history is a little
more accepted. Uh. As faras having lovers while you're married, that
will never end, I'm sure andsome you know, for some people.
But I just found out what thatyou were quite recently. So how odd
was that to have lived my wholelife thus far and not know this.
My grandfather, my father's father,was married. She died young he married

(50:35):
her sister. That's my grandmother.I had no idea. That is kind
of really interesting, you know that, that's no idea. You know what
happened frequently back then. And thenPoe also you have to think he was
adopted, so that wasn't his bloodcousin. No. I mean the Poe
that we know of from popular cultureis drunk in the streets, right,

(50:55):
I mean, that's really what theyportray him as. Is legacy to be
that right, the true I mean, that's accomplished. They portray him as
a madman writer, drunk in thestreets. I mean, really is how
they portray him. He did alot more of his life than what popular
culture puts out there. And stillhis writings are as scary as hell as

(51:16):
they were when he first wrote him. You read Tell Tale Heart, you
read all those They still scare you. Well. We saw we saw The
Raven, the movie, the JohnCusack and actually fairly recently and that was
the whole family. My son who'seleven, he became absolutely enthralled, and
he went out and read everything wehave. I got a huge you know,

(51:39):
collected works of Poe book, andI mean he just burned through that
thing. He's eleven years old.He was absolutely fascinated. It's interesting from
your description, though, Christie,that's a lot closer to the Poe of
the Raven I'm talking about the twentytwelve movie with John Cusack. That's a
lot closer to his personality and hiskind of stature which you're portraying, than

(52:06):
anything like what is typically portrayed inthat movie. He was a much more
together, forceful, attractive, appealingfigure, and it sounds like he was
a lot closer to that than thecommon perception that we have these days.
And he died crazy young by theway, Yeah forty. I mean that's
how old I am now, andoh my god, I still have a

(52:27):
lot of life left in me.I couldn't imagine dying at forty. So
you can tell us what happened tohim or no. But it's true.
I mean he was, he was, no, and that ends the show.
Here we go, guys, thankyou for listening. It's true.
I mean he was extremely good looking. Cusac did a great job of portraying

(52:50):
Poe and um, but no,he was and the whole you know,
the mustache on the bushy eyebrows,that actually was Maybe you know how you
have the awkward times in your life. His awkward like two years of his
life. He really didn't look likethat. He really was very clean shaven
and um, he didn't. Hedidn't have the cheesy little mustache with the

(53:13):
hair uncombed. He didn't. Soit's it's so funny how the cult,
you know, part of that followingof Poe, which he's got a huge
following that you know, that's exactlyhow they denote him. And you know,
I think he's very honored. Youknow that he is um so looked

(53:34):
at. Most people think of itas you know, Halloween time because of
the gothicness of everything, which hedoesn't quite understand, you know, at
all either, but it definitely um, you know, he got his legacy
and death, even if it's throughthe whole mad you know, the drunk
um you know, mad man wanderingthe streets. I can't say you know

(54:00):
that he was innocent through a lotof the things. And he didn't drink.
He did have a drinking problem.He had tried to stop. He
did take opium, but opium atthe time was a drug that was used
for different medical ailments, including migraine. Well they used to give all opium
in liquid form. Wah wow.For for a very very very long time,

(54:25):
it was basically the snake world thattime. Anything that ails you sure,
yeah. And so you know,people always assume, you know,
oh boy, you know, whata what a what a lazy bump he
was. And I look at allthe works that he did. You know,
we wouldn't have He wrote sci fi, he wrote detective, he wrote

(54:46):
horror. I mean, he didall so many different genres that we forget.
We wouldn't have Sherlock Holmes if itwasn't for Poe. We wouldn't have
Star Trek or Star Wars if itwasn't for Poe. He was really the
person that decided to write that.And he wrote a lot of religious works

(55:06):
as well. He questioned faith,he questioned God, he questioned you know,
the Big Bang theory. So,I mean, he was a very
huge philosopher. So you can't bea drunk, you know, and write
the things that he did. There'sjust no way. Well you can't only
be a drunk. Put it thatway. Hey, you know what really

(55:28):
fascinates me as always are the mechanics. So how often does he visit you
and how does he visit you,so I see those on the other side
like physical forms, so I seethem just like you and I, And
often I don't know if it's somebodythat has passed away or if it's you

(55:52):
know, somebody like us. Sothere's times I even have to ask my
family, you know, why isthat person staring at me? And and
they're like, what are you talkingabout? So then I get my answer.
But um, so he shows himselfin physical form, and he pretty
much shows up whenever he darnwell wantsto show up. And in the morning,
knowing you know, you might havepost staring at you two in the

(56:14):
morning, good, hey, getup, exactly, get up, got
it right time, it's time.Um, we have that. And we
also got a lot of visits fromRavens and so that is always. In
fact, my daughter has a prettycool story. Not too long ago,
she had to take an exam onshe was sitting outside of the library and

(56:36):
she she's a huge skeptic, sothis was she text messaged me this.
So this was huge for her andshe's like, Poe, I don't know
how well you are with math andwith chemistry, which by the way,
he's got so great. But Ineed your help. I'm hoping that you
can help me. And she said, all of a sudden, a raven
landed on the car right in frontof her and just stared at her.

(56:58):
And She's like, okay, thatwould be a yes. So he shows
up in our lives in that way. And I think we always, you
know, have signs from our lovedones or helpers. On the other side,
we just are often not looking asor we're paying attention like we should
be. But yeah, he showsup. Um, he's not always around.

(57:22):
He's around for a reason. Soas I mentioned before, that he
was trying to solve a series ofcrimes that was happening around him, while
those similar series of crimes continue totoday. And I probably told the same
story last last year that I wason. But when I was three years

(57:46):
old, I saw spirits and Ihad my prediction of my grandmother passing away.
And then she unexpectedly passed away andso called in quotes, unexpectedly passed
away. My parents weren't too thrilled, and they dragged me to the Lutherans
school and tried to help get mesome darn Lutherans. Oh aye, I

(58:07):
am one Missouri sented crazy Lutherans.So so I went to school and the
only one that didn't make fun ofme for these imaginary friends, you know,
they still called imaginary friends or forthese people on the other side that
I was seeing and communicating with andson saying was my grandfather, and that

(58:27):
was the husband of the wife thatI had predicted that was going to pass
And I felt always bad. Ialmost felt like I was cursed because I'm
the one that made the prediction andthen she passed away. So I kind
of felt like somehow I played intothat. I mean, I was three
four years old, so it's it'shard to rationalize that at that age.
It's hard to raze that at fortyfour years old. So, but my

(58:50):
grandfather was like my best friend,and he was found beaten and near death
next to his bed when I wasabout eight years old into the hospital and
he was asked. He kept askingfor me, and he had a dozen
grandkids. I was the youngest one, and he didn't play favorites as much
as he was my favorite. Hereally was a very fair man, and

(59:14):
my parents wouldn't let me go seehim. You had to be sixteen in
order to go to ICU at thattime, and so he passed away before
I could, you know, figureout why he was asking for me.
But at the cemetery he told me, you know, Christie, I will
always be there, always protect you, and you know you need to be
there for for your mom. She'sgoing to have a hard time, and

(59:37):
you you know, you can alwayscall on me anytime that you need me,
but I will be there, andI need you to understand that I
do understand what you're going through becauseI am one too. So my grandpa
was a sensitive as well, andthat would have been nice to know,
you know, to hear. Yeah, it would have been it would have

(59:58):
been helpful, you know, buthe didn't. He did it, and
he was religious as well, soit probably you know, he didn't have
anybody to explain it to him either. So so it was a couple of
weeks after that my mom and mymom and dad went to the mall taking
me. I was eight, sothey I got dragged there as well.
And I was a reader still umand had a book and they sent me

(01:00:19):
in front of a fountain and saidread this book. We'll be back.
And this was before cell phones,you know, so it's like, don't
move you stay there. And theytook off, and that was part of
my mom's therapy, was shopping.So my dad handed her a bunch of
credit cards and wow, they went, Yeah, so cheaper than a psychiatrist.
Well, this is true, itreally is. So they they ended

(01:00:43):
up. We're only gone for minutes. And this man came up to me
with a camera around his neck andlike a real camera up. We didn't
have digital back then, this isin the seventies, and asked if he
could take a photo, and hetook a photo, and he asked me
to stand up to the lighting wasn'tright, and I stood up and he
took another photo, and then hestarted to drag me towards the exit.

(01:01:04):
I was gonna say to you ofcandy, Yeah, no, no,
he didn't, don't. I didn'teven get that out of it. So
I'm being dragged towards the exit,and I could feel my grandfather and back
on me. I could smell acigarette smoke, and I could you know,
he was a large man, andI could sense him and I could
smell him, and I could Ijust knew. You know how you can
close your eyes and someone walks inthe room and you just know that it's

(01:01:28):
them by the way they walk,and and I just knew it was my
grand And then he spoke and hesaid Christie Roun. And it went really
really quick. You know a lotof people are like, well, why
did you go with him immediately?You know, it wasn't voluntary, And
it went really really quickly, andI did, and I got out of
his grasp and I ran and gotmy So your grandfather helped you at that

(01:01:52):
predicament, Yeah, from heaven.And it ended up that was nineteen seventy
nine and at the time in Michigan, and there was a serial killer called
the Oakland County Killer or the Babysitter, and they believe he saved my life.
That is that's pretty darn toot andcool story right there. We gotta

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And welcome back to After Hours eightam. Everybody. I'm your host,
Joel stew just a write along meatas always, Eric Olson, and
we are talking to well Christie Robinetteand we are talking about Egnor Allan Poe
because I'm still kind of I hadthis question in my head. I just
want to ask, what's Poe upto these days? What's to do for

(01:05:39):
fun? He's hangings, That's aboutit. He's haying. No. Um.
He actually, like I said,he guides several different people. So
and he has been guiding a journalistand he's guides um, a lot of
music people. So pretty much likethose on the other side, they have

(01:06:00):
jobs. You know. I thinkmy spirit guide, though not to butt
In, is a practical joker becauselook at the way he's guide in my
life. I'm behind a microphone,jerk. Oh man. Cats. You
want to talk about a winding path, I think I mean guided by a
snake, an autistic snake. God, I just my circuitous winding path through

(01:06:28):
life. It's ridiculous. Well,gonculous is what it is. Getting back
to a post up to these days? So he is still he has a
spirit guide to journalists, and reallyit seems like he's a spirit guide to
people that are very artistic similar.Well, we vibrationally, you know,
we are attracted to those that arelike us or that have similar interests that

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we do. And so when wego to the other side. That's exactly
you know what happened as we aresort of given the role of so I
had to laugh. So are youvibrationally aligned to a snake? I'm kind
of trying to figure that one out. But so we're like attracts like and
that's how we end up getting matchedto our spirit. Great. I'm gonna

(01:07:16):
be stuck with Paul Harvey somewhere goingon now, but stood the story,
Christy Um seriously, because you knowwe're being lighthearted in some ways. I'm
really interested to hear more about justkind of the general not you per se,

(01:07:36):
because you're so much more sensitive.How does the spirit guide work with
the average person, the person whois not you know, literally seeing entities
as if they were solid bodies likeyou, you know, but just the
average person, how does the spiritguide interact with them? And how how

(01:08:00):
would I, for example, findout who my spirit guide or guides are?
And then secondly I would like tohave a word with that person.
Yeah, no kidding, I gotsome words. Everybody has worded letters.
What I'm gonna do? That's fine? Well, no, and something that
actually might help. Now, everybodydoes have a spirit guide or spirit guides

(01:08:25):
and whether you want them, youdon't want them, you know it or
not. And so there's lots ofdifferent ways to connect with your guides,
and everybody has that ability to connectwith their guides as well. It just
has to be an intention. Soit is noticing the signs and the symbols.

(01:08:46):
A lot of times we think thatare what's going on in our lives
are random, and it never reallyis. So it's looking at those so
called coincidences and seeing you know thatit might have happened at the right time,
such as you felt that nudge toget off the freeway and then you
hear of an accident you know thatwas in the next exit. Um,

(01:09:08):
it's paying attention to the people thatare being sent your way. So there's
several reasons why they are there,and it even includes the painful lessons that
we've had. So if you know, you say you keep meeting somebody,
you know that's the name of yourgrandmother, you know, and and there's
that constant. Doesn't mean your grandmother'syour guide, but it means that there

(01:09:31):
is that heaven hello, And they'restill supposed to be a connection. But
guide's pen you know, just likeangels can come in the way of human
form as well, and um andhelp you with that. So they're not
a constant in your life, butit can be that so called chance.
Go ahead, no, go ahead, no, say can you tell people

(01:09:55):
who their spirit guides are? Yeah? And you know, the interesting thing
is, I don't like to sobecause I almost feel like it's cheating.
I feel like it's sort of likea person. I know, You're like,
hey, I just want to he'smine. Then, oh, I
think it's a personal experience. Ithink that it's a because we doubt it,

(01:10:17):
you know. And when I dothe meditation and Forever More actually has
a find your Spirit Guide meditation atthe end. But when I do the
meditation with different classes and such,you know, I always say, take
the first name that comes to you. You know, what are you seeing?
Are you seeing feathers? Are youseeing? You know? Um,

(01:10:39):
you know what kind of shoes areyou seeing on them? Go back to
the time, the period of timethat most interests you, you know,
tends to be a spirit guide's time. Like if somebody loves the Westerns,
you might have somebody that you knowlived in that period of time. That's
your spirit guide. And so Ithink that the meditation is important in order

(01:11:02):
to um, you know, havethat personal experience and then and know that
you're not imagining it because a lotof times we think, oh, that's
just a coincidence. You know,are you are you for sure that you
know Michael is my spirit guides nameor that's a weird name. So it's
it's actually trusting yourself. And yeah, so not everybody has famous spirit guides,

(01:11:27):
you know, like Eggnor, elmPoe or or you know John Lennon
or anything like that. It's probablylike normal people as well, there are
spirit guides. Yeah, it's true. You know what's funny though, when
I came out with this book,I was told by my publisher, by
my publicist, get ready because you'regoing to probably be eaten alive, so

(01:11:47):
just be prepared. And the interestingthing is the book's been out since October,
so I have actually had a reallygood response, and I have had
probably a dozen plus people say,you know, I've always felt like Poe
was my guide. And I've evenhad celebrities come to me and say,

(01:12:09):
I've always had this. You know, I've sat down I was ten years
old, and I've always had thisattraction to the poetry and and I write
the way that he does. AndI've been told that, you know,
I I remind people of Poe andit's not just you know, a mustache
and you know, crazy gothic clothesor anything. That there's a way.

(01:12:30):
And so I kind of felt likeit was everyone on the playground is like,
Okay, now we're all going tofight over hoops. Poh, you
know guiding right now? Yes,and mote as we speak. But it's
really interesting because I think that,you know, think of somebody that has

(01:12:54):
died that when he hasn't been alivesince you have, think of who you
might be connected to, and Ibet you you can find somebody and it
could be that they're guiding you.Yeah, when you put that way,
I mean if you feel a certainconnection or gravity towards something, I mean

(01:13:15):
like is the chances are it's becauseyour spirit guide has had dealings with it,
like the Old West, or themountains or even the water. Because
there's some people that are drawn,for instance, to the water and they
just don't know why why do Iwant I'm having a boat so bad?
Why why do I will be inthe open sea? I don't know why
I never you know, I justcan't get rid of it, right,

(01:13:40):
So, like, why did yougo into radio for the chicks? The
chicks for the chicks? Okay,then go to a spirit guide that might
have been a musician or somebody inthat type of industry that was a casanova
you know. Actually, yeah,I went into radio because I was the
last that was the best option availableat the time. That's not true.

(01:14:04):
I'm psychic and I know that that'sthat true. No, But seriously,
on a serious note, like yousaid, it seems like, uh,
spirit guides if I'm understand you correctly, the guide like people like interests and
is there a reason for that?Yeah, well, it's to help you

(01:14:25):
have the best life purpose as youcan. You know. The thing is
we do have transitional guides as well. So for going through financial problems,
we might have somebody that pops onthat was good with finances or was a
banker. Yeah, but he's stillhere, right, yeah, yeah,
yeah, he can't be our spiritguide. Man. You know, sorry,

(01:14:48):
were buffets Midas? There you go, Steve Jobs, he was a
millionaire Rockefeller. Yeah, Rockefeller.That's a good once. Well so yeah,
sobs and you can actually call ondifferent guides and that sounds really crazy
as well, So pretty much likewhat you guys are doing, you can
do that as well. And it'ssort of like dialing the phone. It

(01:15:10):
doesn't mean that they can pop uplike a genie, but there is you
can sort of put that batman sinkdull out and say, hey, this
is what I need. I needmore finances, or my health is really
bad, so I need somebody thatcan help me, you know, with
regards to that, or get meto the right doctor or have the doctor
give the right diagnosis. Well,can somebody, can somebody just stop what

(01:15:31):
they're doing and just call out andsay to your guide, I don't know
what to do next. I needsome guidance. Sure, and does that
work or is that one of thosehit and miss deals or is it some
of this we have to learn onour own. It's I don't well,
I believe in free will, freechoice, So they're never going to make

(01:15:53):
you do something that's not of yourfree will. But if you're asking,
then you're asking to be put onthat right path. The problem with people
is that they want that instant,you know, gratification that it's going to
have. Sure know, it's notit's a fast food society. It's not
a it's it's not a fast foodspiritual you know, path that just doesn't

(01:16:15):
work that way. Okay, Soso it might not be that second that
you say, give me some guidance. It might take some time because it's
like it's like steering a large ship. It takes a long time for it
to get that back to that rightpath. So it takes time, yes,
sure, and believing, well,here's my problem, or what I

(01:16:36):
perceive to be my problem. Ihave always been pulled in so many different
directions. I'm extremely eclectic, Myinterests are eclectic, my tastes are eclectic.
I'm pulled, and I'm never sureat any given time what is the
correct direction to go in because Ifeel drawn and pull by so many different

(01:17:00):
directions. And at this stage inmy life, you know, I should
be old enough where I have someof that stuff figured out. It is
maddening to not know what I'm supposedto be doing, you know. And
I think that my number one questionthat I get in my office is what
is my life purpose? And myanswer to everybody is always, as long

(01:17:24):
as you're serving a purpose, you'reyou're doing your life. How very Yoda
of you. But it's true,right, it's true. It just sounds
like something Yoda would say something inthe log exactly. I mean thinks you
are doing already what you are destinedto do. It's true. No,

(01:17:44):
it's true because there's a lot ofpeople out there not doing nothing, not
doing nothing. So really, Eric, I mean, you're doing a ton
of things. So you give yourselfcredit for at least being a multitasker.
Yea. Eric is extremely talent toperson, Eric is a very talented guy.
He not only as a musician,he's a writer, He's he has

(01:18:06):
been an actor. I mean,the dude is everywhere. He's very very
talented. So Eric, giving yourselfa little bit more credit, all right,
I give myself a little more credit. But it still this stage in
my life, you would think thatI would have figured out kind of the
one main thing that I am supposedto do. I don't know. I'm
feeling sorry for myself. I realizedthat why are you astrologically here? I

(01:18:30):
mean, Leo, I am theLeo is Leo? So August what fifth?
Okay? So yeah. So theinteresting thing with leos, though,
is that they get frustrated really reallyeasily. So you getting frustrated about that
is so normal, It really is. I've got two Leos in my life.

(01:18:51):
I got to both of my daughter'sear leo's. See, I'm a
virgo. I'm a virgo, andI find myself being perfectionist. Yeah,
that's you. You analyze all bigtimes. Everything gets analyzed, everything that
happens. I was born August twentyfifth, and so I'm definitely a big
time virgo and everything gets under themicroscope everyone. And you don't like to

(01:19:14):
be micromanaged, which is why youcan't work a normal corporate job exactly.
Hit the nail around the head anymore time off to do, you know,
go surfing? But no, itreally I don't. I don't think
that either of you are just youknow, distracted from the life purpose.

(01:19:36):
I think that, you know,eventually at all kind of comes together.
And just waiting for that all tocome together, I keep plugging away.
You know it sounds deflated. Ohgirls, she will be a good time

(01:19:58):
of my host, you know.Yes, No, it's it's all good.
Though. One took my exactly showthe boody urinating materials are good.
All right, I'm back, I'mback Christy. All right, So,
as you were saying, the Poebook Forever More and everyone should buy that.

(01:20:21):
By the way, do not passgo without picking up Forever More.
It is fascinating. You want toknow how Edgar Allan Poe died. It's
in there, straight from the horse'smouth, so to speak. But as
we were saying, that's already beenout now getting of nine months or so,
we'll certainly passed a six month mark, because I know because I keep

(01:20:44):
track, because that's what America's MostHoney came out too, same time.
So you have been been working ona new book, and that one comes
out in August. Can you tellus a little bit about that one?
Yeah, it is called It's aWonderful Afterlife inspiring true stories from a psychic
medium. And one of the questionsthat I get most all of the time

(01:21:09):
is how do I communicate with myloved one on the other side. So
obviously my profession is to connect thosethat come to me with their loved ones.
I'm glad you mentioned that because mydad died about a little over a
year ago, and I'm trying toconnect with the dude. It's tough,
it well, and so just alittle over a year. It was actually

(01:21:31):
a last April. Okay, sothat's actually in the book. I say,
before you see a medium or youreally you know, delve into trying
to dial that phone to the otherside, give them about a year.
Yeah, because it takes It's likethey've got to get acclimated to the other
side as well. It was ayear April, this last April. So

(01:21:54):
it was actually April twenty fourteen thathe passed, right, I'm sorry,
it's rough, Yeah, it was. It was rough, But you know,
it's one of those things because whensomebody passes and and and believe me,
the last thing I want to dowas reach out to a psychic medium
because not because I dismissed them,but what if they give you the wrong

(01:22:14):
info? Was what I was thinking. I'm like, you know, I
mean, because now we're going toopersonal detail, We're going to personal territory.
It's one of those scary things.It's different to be a radio host
and here a psychic talk to youabout it you or our medium talked about
their medium ships stuff like that,because you're disconnected. Last I had I
have a very hard time opening myselfup to mediums about this this situation.

(01:22:39):
I don't blame you. I've I'vethis sounds so hypocritical. I tend to
not get reading self, and thissounds terrible because well, for me,
I'm out there, I've got mybooks. My books tell my life story,
and they pretty much I've had somebodyverbatim, you know, pretty much
like they're reading white chapters and nowyour mom is here and mom said,

(01:23:00):
I'm like, oh, no,oh, you know, my room's dirty.
I know, but about it?Yeah, now, so I mean
it really, I completely get that. And when I read for people,
they're often very very nervous because that'sjust it is like, well, what's
mom or dad or grandma grandpa goingto say? And is it going to

(01:23:20):
be the write infoe and is itgonna be the info that's gonna help me?
And and so this book is reallyabout helping you make the connections with
those on the other side and um, and it shares a lot of stories
that I've heard about what heaven islike from the people on the other side
and what they're afterlife is like,and so so yeah, yeah, it's

(01:23:45):
the interesting. I'm not going togo on full reading mode because I always
ask permission, but The interesting thingabout your dad is that he's a tough
cookie. Oh he was tough andyou do have permission by the way,
Okay, I mean he's like militanttalk. He was a tough, tough
man's strong and he wasn't really thewhole I love you, I'm proud of

(01:24:06):
you type of dad. But youknew he was, oh yeah, yeah,
he's really proud of you. Well, he pushed me in going to
radio because he's really proud of you. Well, and he didn't he was
ready to pass. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean he just keeps showing
me this domino effect of not livingto the fullest that he he wanted to.

(01:24:30):
And he really you know, Isay it was tough, but he
really had a big heart. Yes, And um, he wants you to
watch your stomach. So I don'tknow if he was having stomach issues or
what, but he just keeps pointingto your stomach and saying, watch your
stomach. There's some issues. Idon't see cancer or anything bad around you,
just keeps saying watch your stomach.It's it's kind of like that like
an egg sitting you know, inthat like it's kind of a strange probably

(01:24:57):
from all his work they put methrough. It could be it's not even
colon. It's like the bottom ofthe stunt legal. I'm not opposed to
to diagnose, but it's like thebottom of the stomach. And he just
keeps saying he wants you to watchthat, and um, he's there is
a female that's with him, whichfeels like it's his mom, and I'm
kind of squinning, and he's he'sgot a lot of people with him.

(01:25:18):
There's like fifteen people. Well,he's a pretty popular dude. Yeah,
he's he's a good guy. He'sa good guy. So he says that,
And I know you work in theradio, but so you may think
that this is random as well,or that it's coincidence. But he keeps
playing songs, so he says topay attention to the songs and that it's

(01:25:38):
connected to him. So it willbe like the same song over and over
and over again. And he keepsshowing me like the old um like those
old radios, like nineteen seventy sixtyseventy radios, and he's like playing with
that and kind of how they havethe ball game on and you know,
he keeps like playing with that.So there's there's something to do with a

(01:26:01):
song. Okay, if he keepsshowing interesting, I saw I should pay
more attention to songs that might bearound me that just keep popping up that
are more from his era. Okay, yeah, so it will come on
kind of you know, at acrate, like you're at the mall and
they're playing pop music and then allof a sudden, you know, a

(01:26:21):
random song. That's weird because therehas been a song lately that I hear
a lot of and we're discussing ita little bit on Tuesday. It's a
band called The Band, and latelythe song of the night, they Drove
Dixie Down, has been all aroundme lately every time I flip on the
radio, and which is not asong that you generally hear because it was

(01:26:42):
you know, it's old and youknow, and it's it's been everywhere lately.
To be honest, I don't.I'm not familiar with that song,
so that song I probably have.Well that for me Bias Joe Bias had
the huge single with it. Umit wasn't actually a hit single at the

(01:27:04):
time. For the band, peoplekind of rediscovered that they're the ones who
had written and recorded it after itwas this huge hit for Joan Bias.
I'm sure you would recognize it ifyou heard it. So what so then
look at the lyrics, because therewill be lyrics in that will make sense.

(01:27:26):
Okay, Um, even if againyou know, say it mentions nighttime,
you know, in the nighttime,may you know that it kind of
gives clues. Sure then comes alongwith that, and so that that will
be you know, connecting with that. So a lot of you know,
a lot of those so called coincidencesactually end up being science. Now also

(01:27:47):
he tries to come with visits,and our loved ones often try to come
in visits, and those are thosedreams. And he said you have had
one, so that is that wasnot a dream. That was not coincidental.
That was the real thing. Ohso it was very vivid, to
be honest with you, the dreamalmost to the point where you wake well,

(01:28:09):
as dreams you wake up and yougo, holy crap, right,
and you know it was like,whoa, that was really vivid. I
mean I could have swore it wasone of those kind of dreams. It's
like you almost smell that atmosphere evenyeah, I mean, yeah, you
know if that makes a sense,you know, like a yeah, you
know, because he was very muchan outdoorsy kind of guy, and it
was almost as if you could smellthe fresh cut grass that much detail on

(01:28:31):
that dream. It kind of freakedme out, to be honest. That's
awesome though. How awesome is that? And then he also, I mean,
this is how creative he is aswell, because I feel like he's
going after all your different senses.So he's going auditory and a lot of
auditory, and then you know he'sgoing through that you can smell it and
you can see him and you canhave that experience. He also keeps playing

(01:28:55):
me a train like a train noise, So there's also something to do with
the trained noise that one. Ihave no idea who either you got me
on that one. There's something witha trained noise, Joel. Do you
have brothers and sisters? I do. I have some sisters. Have you
discussed any of this with them?Not really all that much, you know.

(01:29:17):
Unfortunately, since my dad passed,you know, we were never close
to begin with, and he waskind of the guy that kept the glue
together in the family, and sonow that he's passed, it's just been
kind of like, well we seeeach other on holidays kind of family.
Yeah, that happens often, whichis really kind of sad. And they

(01:29:38):
sometimes get you know, not disappointed, but they do get um, I'll
use disappointed, I'll use disappointed.Yeah they do. They don't get mad,
but they do get disappointed. Youknow that they tried so hardly,
you know, try so hard tokeep the family you know together, and

(01:29:59):
then it's call it like taffy.So you guys aren't mad at one another,
but everyone sort of went their own. Yeah. I was actually the
closest by far everybody because has theonly son, so him and I were
very close, right right, Yeah, And there's one that's a little bit
mad at you now. They're probablyall mad at me now, one more

(01:30:19):
than and it's the youngest of thesisters. It's interesting, it's kind of
upset more like not even like angrymad, but that there's something to do
with Maybe she does need that connectionwith you. Maybe she does feel,
you know, like you've kind ofabandoned everybody as well. I don't know,
it's getting too Doctor Phil here withyou from the Psychic Realm. Well,

(01:30:43):
very interesting. Thanks for the readywe gotta run guys, you have
to go to break but more ChristyRobinette when we come back. And yes,
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welcome back to After Hours Am,everybody. I'm your host, Joel Sturgis
and always with me Eric and weare talking to Christy Robinette tonight and we
have learned a ton Actually I wasn'texpecting to learn about spirit guides and how
we can find our spirit guides andthat's all really cool information. And I

(01:34:48):
think that everybody should pick up allof her books, and you can find
all of them on Amazon. Checkthem all out because she has more than
one writing out there. You havetons of them out there. Christy,
you're you're a busy lady, verybusy lady in my spare time. It's
in my spirit. It no bigwhoop, come on, it's easy.

(01:35:08):
But you know, as we wereleaving, we were of course, you
know, you gave me a reading, which thank you very very much.
I really enjoyed that and I canI answer a lot of questions for me
personally, so thank you and hBut when you do readings for people the
mass public, I'm kind of curiouswhat the most common questions are that they
have. What is the money?Is it love, is it loved ones?

(01:35:30):
What is the most common Well,it depends on what they're there for.
So if if they're there not tonecessarily connect to anybody, and it's
more of a psychic it tends tobe, and it depends on where that
economy is. So like seven yearsago, it was all about money.
Now that things have straightened out,it is about love. But those that

(01:35:54):
obviously, you know, if they'recoming to connect with their loved one on
the other side, the number onequestion is are they okay? Yeah?
Yeah, And that's that's common.I mean, that's that's pretty much.
I even asked that during the break. I mean that was my first thinking,
is he okay? You know,is he doing fine? And it's
always reassuring and good to hear thatthey're doing fine. Yeah they're not always

(01:36:16):
though, which is again where it'sa wonderful afterlife kind of explains that we
just don't go over to the otherside, and it's angel wings and you
know, singing in the choir,that we have to go through these life
reviews and we have to see wherewe went wrong and where we went right,
and we have to learn. Butthen we have the choice whether we

(01:36:39):
do or not. We don't haveI shouldn't say we don't. We have
to learn. We have the choiceto learn, and we don't change our
personality. So if we were abully here and we decide to not learn
through that, we're going to bea bully on the other side. In
fact, I had a client acouple of weeks ago that her whole family
came through and her mom stood therenext to her husband and she was just

(01:37:03):
she says, I'm not apologizing foranything, and I'm you know, and
I'm going, oh, this isnot a honest you know. And I
said, well, your mom isis saying that she understands your upset,
but she doesn't want to apologize becauseshe still feels that she was in the
right. And she goes, shethrew her hands up in the air and
she goes, I would not havethought anything different. And if you had

(01:37:27):
told me something different, I wouldhave known that you weren't connecting with her.
So I went, all right,well, this is not necessarily healing.
Yeah, but you know, theystill have to do the work.
And I think it actually was healingbecause she realized her mother's so stubborn and
strong. Well that it wasn't ithad nothing to do with her and have

(01:37:47):
everything to do with her mother's issues. Well exactly. And but it's got
to be painful. I mean ithad to have been painful for this client
to hear that the mother are stilla butthead Yeah, I mean you would
wish that they would go to theother side and receive that total enlightenment and

(01:38:08):
no, oh my god, itshould have treated you so horrible. Let
me really that now, and thathappens, thankfully, that is more of
the norm than what had occurred.I think that the mother had passed within
the last couple of years, andthere is no time on the other side.
I always say, it's like beingat a casino. There's no clock,

(01:38:29):
so you lose track of time.And so maybe she didn't have enough
time to be on the other sideto do that review to get it because
she wouldn't even come in the sameroom with her husband. They also did
not get along. Man, Soeven in the afterlife, they didn't like
each other. Yeah so when theyshe just didn't like anybody. But yeah,

(01:38:54):
so, I mean we do holdon to that resentment and that regret
if we choose. I mean,I always picture going up those those steps
to the pearly game. Sure,I don't want to take my luggage,
you know, I'm I'm checking myluggage. I just want to run up
there and be as free as canbe. I'm not gonna be lugging all
of my regrets and my resentments withme. What purpose. But we get

(01:39:17):
that choice to have to deal withit here, and most people don't interesting
Interesting, they don't take the opportunitywhile they're here to learn. They have
to do it in the afterlife.And even as they cross the Pearly gates,
their head remains firmly implanted in theirsphincter up their rare end. Yeah.

(01:39:40):
Yeah, that's you know, Igotta ask you, is there I'm
asking the sixty four thousand dollar questionshere is there a heaven? And is
there a hell? Yeah? Sothat is that is that, you know,
the major question, because like Isaid, I was raised Lutheran,
so I was raised. You crossover, you go to heaven, and you're
pretty much you now ever see yourloved ones until you go to heaven,

(01:40:02):
right Exactly, That's what we're alltold. You do something really bad and
you go to this horrific you know, fire and brimstone and you're working in
a coal mine. You know,that's the imagery that they give you.
Exactly, that's not necessarily true.So I often say a lot of people
are living in their hell right nowbecause they've created it. And when we

(01:40:26):
go to the other side, youcreate what you want to create. So
your heaven is the way that youwant it to be if you believe that
you can, if you believe inyourself and you're if you so choose to
feel like you weren't worthy or youdid something bad, then you live in
a hell and that is your creationas well. But you had the choice

(01:40:50):
to check that at the door.You do. Now, there are different
scenarios such as you know that arereally really bad, you know, those
serial killers and those rapists and molestersand all of that. I mean,
there's a little bit of a differentum a level that they go to um

(01:41:15):
not everybody. I always say,it's like an apartment building. You know,
you want you want to be atthe Penthouse right, to be on
the basement apartment. That's not cool. But there's so so there is a
hell. Like for Adolf Hitler.You know, he's not hanging around the
Penthouse suite hanging out with Jimmy Hendrix. He correct, he doesn't have a

(01:41:39):
key. He's not able to getonto that that floor. Okay, well
that's good to know. That's goodto know that there is a check checks
and balance. Have the dates orthe virgins? He doesn't have any of
that good stuff. No vir nonothing, you know, So lie to
that guy. Come on, allright, So Christy what I've been holding

(01:41:59):
back on because it's kind of oldnews, but it is stunning old news.
And here we are, unbelievable inour final eighteen minutes. I can't
even believe it. When we metlast year, it was just before the
airing of Restless Souls, which waslast I guess April on Investigation Discovery,

(01:42:20):
and I also found it is nowavailable on Amazon Prime, so go check
that out. Restless Souls is thename of the show. In the show,
we have both the recreation and youare actually in it as well,
So it's going back in time andthen it's also now. But the bottom

(01:42:40):
line is is you were brought inor well, I don't want to put
it that way. There is athere was a murder two thousand and four
murder, and you helped solve thecase. Why don't you tell us about
it? I did. Yeah,this was the Ashley Howley story, and
Ashley had gone missing from Columbus,Ohio. And Ashley ended up coming to

(01:43:05):
me and, like I said,I see them physical. She ended up
sitting on my bed and saying Ineed you to help my family. I
need you to show them where mybody is so that they can put me
to rest and get some closure.And after a series of searches in the

(01:43:28):
place that she told me to golook in, I put the stick in
the ground and said dig and theysaid we can't, and they they wanted
a confession, and they believed thatthe boyfriend, which ultimately doesn't take a
psychic to see that that was youknow, she had said it was the
boyfriend. But you know, obviouslywhen you look at all these crime stories,

(01:43:51):
that's it's the spouse or the youknow, the significant other. That's
the first one. You know thattypical UM needs to be looked at seriously.
UM. But said, this iswhere you need to, you know,
to look And the cops wouldn't digum. They wanted a confession,
they wanted more evidence. And therethere's unfortunate UM scenarios with this story,

(01:44:16):
as several other people ended up deadbefore they ended up digging, and um
they found Ashley's remains and um,she was able to be put to rest,
but not before several people died andher mother ended up the passing before
she could see justice served. Ohmy goodness, wow, Yeah, it

(01:44:42):
was did and I did restless soulsjust to give Ashley a voice, and
I was really happy to give herthat voice. And it was really UM
on domestic abuse. M that's I'mglad you're able to bring some justice for
her and her family. What ahard heart situation she was put in and

(01:45:06):
what you were put in. Atleast, like I said, justice was
eventually found. Yeah, it's it'sa very sad. I've worked on police
cases for years. I continue towork on police cases, and not all
of them have the resolution that thisone does. A lot of times I

(01:45:27):
don't get to see it from thebeginning, middle, and end. I
typically I'll get a call from theplace and they'll say, okay, this
is the case that we have.What do you see. I'll give them
the info and I may never hearfrom them again and again. Like I
said earlier in the show, weare such an instant society. We were
a CSI society. You know,you get that right away, and it

(01:45:49):
takes sometimes, you know, yearsand years for us to see justice resolved.
And with Ashley, it was itwas a good thing that you know,
she was able to be put torest and she's with her mom and
she's happy, and I see herevery so often, and it's not as
often as it was, and thatactually makes me happy because she's finally living

(01:46:12):
on the other side. That seriously, that that is great work. I
mean, whenever you can bring justicein a case like that, it really
makes what you do and I'm surefor yourself so satisfying that you're able to
make that impact. My police casesare one of my most satisfying things of

(01:46:36):
my work. And going right backto the beginning as well as Poe is
very intricate in helping me with thosepolice cases. So with him being that
armchair detective, he is actually veryvery good at it. And he has
always been my assistant with helping methink logically through a lot of it,

(01:46:58):
and and psyche as well. Whatyou tell us about another case, just
pick one out. Oh my gosh, So even the ones you know when
forever More I talk about a seriesof serial killings that are happening still today.
If you google the Smiley Face killerall right here in Minnesota, yep,

(01:47:19):
exactly, you will see that.And the publisher had me changed the
name, so Forevermore does not saythat name, but that's what it's referring
to. But yeah, so I'veworked on several of those cases. One
in particular, it actually was somebodyfrom Wisconsin that went missing, but in

(01:47:41):
a state that was not Midwest,but they believe that he was followed.
So all of these series of cases, they often say, are the drunks,
you know, and they're coming backfrom a bar and they fall into
a water source. But these areyoung men. These are generally college age
students. They are the tip topphysical specimens and smart and smart. I

(01:48:05):
would not suspect them to just fallin the water and die. Even if
they are inebriated and drunk, theyare still young, strong and capable.
It makes no sense, and itdoesn't in the police are I've gotten into
a lot of arguments with some somebecause I'll get called by private investigators or

(01:48:26):
by victims families and the police arelike, seriously, this is a cut
and dry case, and I'm like, no, it's not. No,
it's not. And if you lookat all of these, you know it
has a pattern with it. Ittends to happen before a holiday. There's
a series. So I have workedon the case with that with several different

(01:48:47):
law and I have a problem andI don't know if you can see that
I'm hesitating. I will have ayoung man going to college next in a
couple of months. So even mypublisher has said to be really quiet about
that. I mean, he fitsa lot of the criteria. Yeah.
Absolutely, I would definitely air itin sight of caution, you know.

(01:49:09):
And I've talked to some of theinvestigators on radio and got to know a
few of them on this case,and we've had long discussions of what's going
on, and they have their ownthoughts and theories as well. But it
just doesn't make any sense law thatcase, the irony is again going back
to forever more. This was theexact same situation that Paul was looking at.

(01:49:33):
This was the exact same situation.So there's clues and ques back into
the eighteen hundreds that has continued onto this day. Are you saying the
killer goes back to the eighteen hundreds, I'm saying the pack the promise,
not the actual killer, but thepromise. Yeah. There's lots of theories

(01:49:57):
out there, especially about this caseand being them in the same state.
I've been able to you really followit. Uh. Some believe it's secret
societies, and I believe it's somethingelse. We can talk a little bit
more off air about that too,but very interesting. Hopefully the people and
I do believe there's more than onethat's perpetrating these crimes are brought to justice.

(01:50:19):
Yeah, I can only hope,you know, I can only And
it is actually a very fascinating Andit's not just Wisconsin, it's Ohio and
Michigan and it's you know, it'sit's the Midwest. So yeah, absolutely,
And I don't mean to go toomuch in it, but Poe refers
to them as the Brotherhood and itdefinitely has that connection, you know,

(01:50:41):
to that. So it's it's prettyinteresting. Other cases I've worked on,
I've worked on some national cases aswell. I've been called on such as
Natalie Holloway and the Sean Hornbeck caseand some of the larger cases that way
that I have assisted on. Ialways say it and solve any of these
cases. Um, and Natalie's isstill considered, you know, her missing.

(01:51:04):
But I believe that the law enforcementis the people that are doing all
of the footwork. I'm just atool for them. Sure. I mean,
you're that very powerful guy, soI can say that, well,
you know, and you've written alot of books and and you and you've
helped the police a lot. Doesit ever get sickening being a psychic medium

(01:51:28):
where you just want to be like, oh, leave me alone, go
away, just give me my peaceand quiet. Yes. I probably once
a week I come home and Itell my husband I'm quitting and I'm getting
a job at like Target or something, and he's like, yeah, right,
So it all it ends up.I mean, it is overwhelming.
My life involves death. So thatis, you know, a constant,

(01:51:51):
and it is exhausting to be thattelephone operator from the here and the now
and the here and the there.I've always wondered that when psychics, when
they do pass away, do theyhave easier time trends, I mean transitioning
to the afterlife? I would hopeso, you know, I mean,

(01:52:11):
just because they've dealt with it alltheir life, pretty much most of them.
I mean, when it comes tobe their time, is it kind
of like a easy, no brainertrans you know, just do it,
you know kind of thing, youknow, where most of us are so
unsure of what's on the other side, and god we hopefully then no one
knows about the candy bar we stolenrefo. You know what's funny is maybe

(01:52:32):
psychics do. But I've found thatnuns have a heck of a time trying
to cross though, Like they willnot cross over, like they're afraid of
death. And I've read for alot of nuns and they will say,
you know, are you sure thateverything that we've read that that's actually there?
And I'm like, oh my gosh, if you guys are having this
doubt, this scares me. Buta lot of a lot of Catholic uns

(01:52:56):
are afraid interestine, I wouldn't thinkthat that'd be a group that be afraid.
Yeah, look at how old theylive, you know, and that,
and they're they're literally in their faith, married to God. They're married
to God. Absolutely. Yeah.I have one that she should have God,
God bless her. She should havepassed away probably five years ago.

(01:53:17):
And she's like, she has gotevery ailment under the sun. And I
think she's ninety nine right now.So now she's like, I'm just gonna
make it do one hundred. Andshe was doing like that at ninety five.
I'm just gonna make it to youout at ninety seven and um.
But yeah, she's just like,I don't know what's on the other side.
It is truly on the other side. That's all the world that she

(01:53:39):
knows, you know. And andthe thing of it is is, I'm
sure in some ways you know whenwe're gonna pass as a psychic. Does
anyone ever ask you when and howam I gonna die? All the time?
Okay, so it's not like anodd question, you get tons,
yeah, all the time. Infact, I was in the back of
a police car working on a policecase in No Way at one time,

(01:54:00):
and the cops like, so youknow what I'm going to die, and
I'm like, I do, butI don't tell it. I never want
to be the grim Reaper. Andhe's like I want to know, and
I'm like no, and he's likeno, really I want to know.
And I'm like no, and he'slike, hey, I'm the one that's
got it gone and you're in theback of my car. Tell me,
yeah, I mean, I tellhim, and then he almost ran us

(01:54:20):
into a tree. I'm like,this is what free will, free choice
is all about. You just almostkilled all of us. But isn't free
will and all that? Isn't thatall very fluid? I mean, can't
that change in a heartbeat when you'regoing to go? I mean, the
choices that you make. I don'tbelieve that we have anything written in stone
absolutely here. I have what willsound like an odd question. I am

(01:54:45):
sure it's been occurring to me throughoutthe whole program, though, so taking
into account various things that you havesaid, I think I better ask it
is it possible that ge Us himselffunctions as a spirit guide absolutely to each

(01:55:05):
and every one of us? Rememberthat, Eric, Huh, you're good.
You're a good Lutheran boy, justlike I am you know he's to
everybody, But is that true?Yeah? I mean, well no,
I don't think so. I thinkthat we have to, you know,
go let's go back to our prochialupbringing. We have to let him in
our heart, you know. Soif we don't allow him in our heart,

(01:55:28):
if we don't allow, then hewon't be able to guide. He's
waiting in allowing that. And goodquestion, Eric, good question man.
Thank you. Well that's very interesting. UM. I'm going to have to
ponder that further as we move along. Hey, let's let people know once

(01:55:49):
again how they can get a holdof you and just anything you have coming
up. Obviously you got the newbook, any appearances and whatnot. What
a pleasure to have you on theshow and to speak with you once again.
I remembered how much I enjoyed speakingwith you. But you really are
a very sweet, pleasant and positiveperson. It's it's a joy. Well,

(01:56:11):
thank it's really thank you so muchfor thinking of of me and having
me back on So I'm really reallygrateful for that. UM. I can
be found at Christie robin at dotcom. I am like the worst person
to pr myself out. I'm gonnabe in Milwaukee in June. The end
of June, I will be doinga paranormal investigation at the Marion Center.

(01:56:32):
It's actually an old Catholic school.I was there last year. We had
a lot of stuff that happened.It was a lot of fun. And
then that Sunday, I'm doing agallery reading and that's in Saint Francis,
Wisconsin. August seventh and eighth,I will be at the Michigan Para Con
and that is at um into SaintMarie. So if you guys want to

(01:56:55):
go way up into the uper partof Michigan, I will be there and
I'll be flucturing with a bunch ofother fun paranormal people. And I always
have a lot of Michigan events aroundme, a lot of library lectures and
book signings. Let me know whenyou come to Minnesota and we'll have a
beer. Yeah. No, we'retrying. We're actually trying to get that

(01:57:17):
all situated. And I'll probably bein New Orleans in November as well.
That just hasn't been solidified. Well, everybody, I want everyone to go
to www. Dot Christie Robinette dotcom, check out her YouTube videos,
her Twitter feed, and yes,you can even be friends with her in
Facebook, check it all out.Get her books. Each and every one

(01:57:40):
of them are available on her websiteas well as at Amazon dot com,
and you'll also be able to learnmuch much more about all of her talents
as she has because it's just asmall snippet what we could bring you tonight.
So definitely, everybody go to ChristyRobinette dot com. Thank you so
much, really thank you for havingme. Yes, I'm sorry we were

(01:58:00):
such a delay from when the bookwas out, but we had a various
things going on, and then wehad a we had a gap with the
America's Most Taunted show due to thefact that we had our book out.
We were running around like idiots doingall these interviews ourselves. That's in fact
how I met Joel and um,you know. So then we got this
thing going and immediately you came tomind, we must get so Yeah,

(01:58:27):
never a disappointment, really really fascinatingstuff, and very much admire how much
of this that you do or howimportant it is to you to help people.
That seems to be your real thecore, the essence of what you
do and what you get out ofit is the fact that you are able
to help people. Yeah, helpthose here and help those on the other

(01:58:47):
side. And if I ever stoppeddoing that, then I'm in the I'm
I'm in the wrong job. Soabsolutely very true. Well, thank you
again, Christy for coming on theshow. It has been an absolute pleasure.
Like Eric and say and uh eggingaround postings to be a pretty cool
dude, just saying it's pretty cool. I can I can loan him to
you if you want. That'd bekind of cool like that. You talk,

(01:59:10):
you know, talk with him alittle bit, you know, quote
him a few times. Well,yeah, he might not like that.
Well Annie, how guys, we'reauddie here. See you guys next time.
Remember love each other, take careof each other, make sure you
connect your spirit guide, and makesure you true to yourselves as well.
Until next time, love y'all.Thank you for listening to this at dinner
of after hours am and please rememberto like us on Facebook and also follow

(01:59:32):
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