March 30, 2015 • 61 mins
America's Most Haunted Radio, hosted by Eric Olsen and Haunted Housewife Theresa Argie, is delighted to talk with Trapper John Tice of MOUNTAIN MONSTERS tonight at 10pE!
MOUNTAIN MONSTERS, Destination America's wildly popular cryptid adventure show, now in season 3, airing at 10/9c on Saturday nights, follows an expert team of native West Virginia hunters and trappers as they defend Appalachia from mysterious creatures that have spawned fear and defied capture for generations.
This season they are zeroed in on Bigfoot, who goes by many names throughout the region including Wildman and Midnight Whistler, but they're all big, hairy, and scary. It's beards vs beasts as our grizzled team, the Appalachian Investigators of Mysterious Sightings (AIMS), led by Trapper John Tice, is out to "prove the existence of Bigfoot in Appalachia."
The men of AIMS have spent their entire lives navigating the backcountry, surviving off the land, and practicing do-it-yourself resourcefulness. Putting a lifetime of training to the test, the AIMS team investigates, tracks, and attempts to trap evasive cryptids in an epic battle between man and monster.
As Destination America's most successful series ever, MOUNTAIN MONSTERS is getting the chat-about-me treatment with the online Behind the Hunt aftershow. Trapper and the gang answer questions about the monsters, and talk terrifying moments on the hunt and what goes on when the cameras aren’t rolling.
MOUNTAIN MONSTERS, Destination America's wildly popular cryptid adventure show, now in season 3, airing at 10/9c on Saturday nights, follows an expert team of native West Virginia hunters and trappers as they defend Appalachia from mysterious creatures that have spawned fear and defied capture for generations.
This season they are zeroed in on Bigfoot, who goes by many names throughout the region including Wildman and Midnight Whistler, but they're all big, hairy, and scary. It's beards vs beasts as our grizzled team, the Appalachian Investigators of Mysterious Sightings (AIMS), led by Trapper John Tice, is out to "prove the existence of Bigfoot in Appalachia."
The men of AIMS have spent their entire lives navigating the backcountry, surviving off the land, and practicing do-it-yourself resourcefulness. Putting a lifetime of training to the test, the AIMS team investigates, tracks, and attempts to trap evasive cryptids in an epic battle between man and monster.
As Destination America's most successful series ever, MOUNTAIN MONSTERS is getting the chat-about-me treatment with the online Behind the Hunt aftershow. Trapper and the gang answer questions about the monsters, and talk terrifying moments on the hunt and what goes on when the cameras aren’t rolling.
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My friends, my miracles, andit's the time once again for America's most
added radio, bringing together the finestminds of personalities from across them eron normals.
Can you call back? So?Sorry about that? A mix up
in my own system there for asecond, pardon me, could you call
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this phone number back? I hada mix up of my own call system
there, so give me one second. This is Trapper. If you want
me call back, I will.That would be wonderful. This is the
engineer of the show. I justhappened to hit the wrong button when I've
added the end, so that'd bekiller, Okay, thanky, all right,
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it's America's well I thought it miraclesand what a delight to be here.
And as each week goes by,we're just gonna get better and better
at getting this beginning the show stuffsorted out. We have an amazing,
amazing, mind bogglingly wondrous show.This evening we are speaking once again.
This is an encore. He's becomea pal of ours with Trapper John Tye
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of Mountain Monsters. But before wedo that, we have, as usual,
the world famous Haunted housewife with usthis evening, Teresa Argie how are
you, Teresa. I'm great.I wouldn't miss this show for anything.
Mountain Monsters one of the greatest showson television right now. And everyone on
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Facebook is all of buzz and everyoneis jealous that we get to talk to
him once again. So very excitingto have Trapper back on the show to
night. And he is not heis not from too far off. I
was just looking through some of theall the various social media and looks like
his team, the Aims team,they have regular meetings, just not really
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that far away down in Marietta,Ohio. Did you know that? I
didn't know that. I know thatthere's a lot of big footers here in
Ohio. It's a it's a greatsteak for it, because once you get
out of Cleveland, let's face it, there's a lot of wilderness. And
I know that we've gone down tosome of the state parks, not really
for bigfooting, but we certainly didhear the stories. You know, my
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fellow Haunted housewife Kathy Webber. Whenwe're not being paranormal investigators and haunted housewives,
we like to call ourselves the SquatchSisters, but we really don't get
out in the woods as much aswe like to, but that is something
that we've liked, we've dreamt aboutdoing for a long time. We're gonna
combine one day a haunted trip witha big Foot haunt and our friends from
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the Kent Paranormal Weekend. We've beentalking about this. They've got some recommendations
of places that we can go tobigfooting and ghost hunting at the same time.
So I want if trappers that areDowney ghost hunting during his Bigfoot investigations,
because they kind of go hand inhand. Well, in a sense
they do. I'm not sure I'mwilling to literally blend them as in is
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Bigfoot a spiritual entity? I'm notsure I'm willing to go that far.
I think for me, Bigfoot isstill assuming he exists. Of course,
Bigfoot is still a biological entity,as as put forward by by our other
friends over at Finding Bigfoot. Well, let's let people know what's going on
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with the show tonight and just getsome of the details for those who I
don't know live in a cave orsomething. Mountain Monsters is Destination, America's
wildly popular cryptid adventure show, nowin season three, airing at ten PM
Eastern and Pacific nine Central on Saturdaynights, and we follow an expert team
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of Native West Virginia hunters and trappersas they defend Appalachia from mysterious creatures that
have spawned fear and defied capture forgenerations and generations. This season, the
team is zeroed in on Bigfoot,which I think is a very interesting move.
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And of course Bigfoot goes by manymany names throughout the Appalachia Greater Appalachia
region, including wild Man and theMidnight Whistler, but all versions are big,
hairy, and scary. It's beardsversus beasts, as are grizzled friends.
The Appalachian Investigators of Mysterious Sightings akaAims, led by trapper John Tye,
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are out to prove the existence ofBigfoot in Appalachia. So there that's
a mouthful. I am telling you. So how you like in the new
season, Teresa, I'm loving it. I just I think it's it's kind
of frightening to think of the situationsthey get in and what happens to them
and what could be happening. Imean, you think you got all these
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cameras around, you know, nothing'sgoing to happen because that's what we're used
to seeing. But man, theseguys get up close and personal, and
it is quite terrifying to think ofwhat they're happening to go through out there
in the dark, because we rememberwhat we're seeing on TV. We're seeing
the infrared, but they're seeing itin a pitch black, so it's got
to be terrifying out there. SoI think it's an interesting choice they're going
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with all bigfoots, but I thinkthat's great. I think that there's so
much to do just with that onepart of the entire cryptid Rainbow of creatures
that they could do a couple ofseasons of this. So it's been really
interesting. They've been doing some greatstuff and I just love watching it,
and me and Kathy we get akick out of this. We love watching
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a text and back and forth duringthe shows. It's awesome. Yeah,
they're a lot of fun. Andwhen I'm talking to people, I'm interacting
about the show, whether it beonline, social media or just talking to
friends. What I'm what I arecurring theme now, which is very interesting
if you think about it. Anhour in season three. I've heard this
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several times from Independent sources. Wow, those guys are a lot smarter than
they look. We have Trapper Johnwith us. Yeah, hey, Trapper,
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what have you back? Well,we're we're all we're all about bullsman.
So it's kind of like it's kindof like you how your living room
right right? Well, we're veryvery happy to have you back on the
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show. We really appreciate. Hardto believe it's already been almost a year.
Looks like it was last May thatyou were on. And what's amazing
to me because we talked once beforethat. We talked right when the show
launched, the very very beginning,and of course at that point, I
mean, look, new shows,broadly speaking, new paranormal shows are,
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let's be honest, a dime adozen. But man, yours has taken
off. It is the most popularshow in the history of Destination America.
What do you think of that?Why do you think that's that? It's
the case? Well, I guessI just pitched myself once in a while.
I hadn't changed life. My cheerin the heels, it's about the
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same. I'm typically off to haveour great partners like Destination to America behind
us and American and Saintsaw Entertainment.It's our production company. And I guess
we just uh, I don't knowif it's a lot care a lot it
is. I talked to a lotof fans. I'm m. I try
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to keep connected with them on Facebookand Twitter and stuff as much as I
can. And I think, Ithink what it is is we do a
lot of deep research. Jeff,Jeff, our researcher, is so good
at that. And I believe it'sthe cambaraderie among the team, um that
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that our team is. Our teamis more like we're more like family.
We've been together a very very longtime. Uh, instead of teams that
they throw together to make a televisionshow. It's just, uh, we
care about each other, We careabout what we do. And I think
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it just takes um. It takesa lot. It takes It takes more
than just cameras running and doing researchand stuff. It takes a lot that
goes into it behind the scenes,the work, the work that we do,
mostly the research we do, allthe scouting trips we make, and
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before we bring the cameras and Steffon, we pretty well know what's going
on, what's happening. I thinkyou're right. One of the first thing
you said was the camaraderie, andI think that's something you can't really fake.
I think that really comes through howmuch fun you guys have together,
how much respect you have for eachother. You have varied abilities kind of
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within you know, you share alot of characteristics, of course, but
beyond that, you have some specificskills. I'm always amazed by the traps
that Willie and wild Bill are puttingtogether. It's really quite astonishing the complexity
and how how well they work.And uh, you know, I mean,
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one of these days, one ofthose critters is going to be in
one of those traps. I'm atelling you heard here the time. That's
right, we've heard all America's mostthought of the time is coming. We're
going to get that sob in atrap, you know. And for all
those trappers out there in the world, they uh, they understand why we're
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going through trying to drive craft something. It's uh, it's it's a very
hard thing to do. I cantell you a short story about when coyotes
first moved into this part of WestVirginia. You know, it took us
quite a few years to learn howto trap them um in any creatures like
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that, And anytime we go afterone of these bigfoot creatures or the hellhound
or chopra, we're going out therepretty well and just using our years of
experience on the bait to use andwhat kind of a trap to build to
catch this creature. I mean,if we had two years to catch him,
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you'd be caught delie and or buttsabout it. So we don't have
two years to catch him. Buckhas a job, and there's always there's
always a pending, pending investigation forus to go to and a new adrenaline
rush. Well sure, I meanwe've already seen some pretty amazing things.
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I love the bigfoot emphasis this season, at least thus far, even though
you're varying a little bit from andyou had the Chipcabra and I got the
hell hound, but it all kindof seems to circle back around a big
foot. I thought it was reallyamazing when you guys found that nest.
I mean that looked like the realthing to me. Oh yeah, yeah,
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that was that was I believe Ieven said that there, that this
was one of the most intricate structures. Um that some of the guns right
up at the beaver and building abuilding. I mean, he built a nest.
It was just it was well camouflaged, it was well concealed. It
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was it was weather proof where ifyou'd get a snow winter snow the top
of it, it'd be quite insulated. And a lot of a lot of
thoughts, a lot of energy,and a lot of effort went in,
uh to build that trap, thatthat that nest that the beaver was scaled
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up to eight feet tall. Yeah, exactly. Now, what's the intrigue
behind this person? Apparently a personwas stocking you guys or following you around,
sneaking around. Yeah, we kindof we we've seen him. We've
seen him one on the infrared cameraearly in the season, I believe in
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Midnight Whistler episode, and then heor the uper Ca uper Corb episode,
I believe it was. We've seenhim behind huckle Bay. And initially we
thought it was a big foot.Actually we thought it was a big flip
when the campus are run. ButJeff and I and the guys we got
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to study that a lot more andwe decided we initially I thought it was
a um, maybe a router.Someone was protecting the jin sank fields or
their yellow root fields. And thenwe kind of come to conclusion after finding
that big foot printer in that runthat it was a big foot, but
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that was that was the first instanceand it was never but this last time,
this last time in the wild Bandepisode, there was definitely no an
all bus about as a person therewith night vision when he said that caught
us. Jeff caught him on theinfrared by accident, and then one of
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our camera man got an infrared pictureof it. Yes, we went buying
the side to side and absolutely wasnot any of the cast or crew.
We was in a lead side besidethe cast all was and the crew was
in one or two side the sidesbehind us. So we're definitely being watched.
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We know that now we're we're doingthings to keep from being followed when
we leave our home home base herein West Virginia. M' we're aloys been
very closed lift of what we do, so we don't have a leak among
the team and we and I'm surewe don't have a lead among the crew.
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The crew has been with us nowfor three seasons and they're very they're
very cussworthy. I mean they're justthey're just thought the guys are cut that
way. Speaking of a crew,they were pretty well concrete people back a
couple of years ago in episode one, season one, that they're kind of
becoming season Woodsman now that they're alla lot better. I We're definitely being
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watched and as the season goes along. I don't want to I don't want
to tell about the men in black, but they will. They will appear
again or more than one time.Wow, well that is intriguing. I
must say, I'm very curious tosee how that works out. Teresa.
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What are your thoughts? Yeah,I think that that's it's fascinating that you
have this mysterious person or possibly peoplethat are following you and the viewers will
you said, well, we'll knowa little more as the season goes on.
But how remote are these locations thatyou were going to? I mean,
are these is this public or privateproperty that you're you guys are looking
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for these these creatures on do youhave to have special permission to be out
there or how far are they?Is it really accessible for just somebody to
just be out there maybe camping orsomething, or mean, well in the
grass Lan episodes last year, Yes, we uh any property owners that we
can find and know about, weseek permission to be on their property.
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But in the Grassban episode in theseason finale last year, if you remember
in Moonshine halloand what we call MoonshineHalla in Perry County high we ran onto
that Moonshine still and we was surewe shouldn't be at that point in time.
So these people, uh no oneelse's was questioned, our landowners and
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no one else's uh went back anduh and seek permission to be on their
property. They were there without permission, uh, and there we think we
we we try to fly under theradar just as much as possible, especially
when we're filming and any other time. Also said we're not seeing. We
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kind of try to stay in placesall the way. We don't make ourselves
uh seen as much as possible.Um. Even though even though our look
is starting to get around and peoplerecognize it, we still may I may
we're a baseball cap instead of myregular halt and or a hoodie or something
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just to cover up who we areand what we're doing and what we're there,
because we don't want we just wecan't have a bunch of people around
or people following us to find outwhat hollow we're in or where we're unroading
our side the side of where we'reworking at. It would just it would
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not only and mess up the investigationthat we're trying to do for some landowners
that are in harm, but alsomess up or camera work. Now,
the one thing that I keep thinkingof, especially when I saw that the
episode where where the person was capturedon camera, and this kind of leads
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me back to another question I have. So I'm going to tie it together.
Um, you guys build these trapsand your your hope is to capture
these creatures big Foot or the wildman, er towobcover, whatever you're looking
for is to capture them live.But you are heavily armed, and you
would be willing Would you be willingto shoot and kill one ask proof or
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only to to kind of protect yourself? I mean, how far would you
go? Would you if it wasif they were it was getting away and
you had to shoot it to provethat it was there? Would you do
that? Or was that only forprotection? If it's if it's getting away
from us, We've already proved itit's there to us okay, and that's
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a lot of times, that's all. That's that's what we get done.
We prove that that creature existed.Okay, now if we get it in
a trap. And now you haveto realize, a bigfoot hurting someone is
probably one of the rarest things thereis besides besides those campers in Russia with
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the YETI I don't believe there's everbeen where the very very shy creature.
They're inquisitive. They will come inand watch to see what's going on and
give you some tree knots or so. There's some rocks thatcher and do some
stuff. But if we would catchone, and when we do catch one,
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even though that everyone would love thepublicity and everything. We will do
pictures, We will maybe try toget a hair sample, and we will
turn that creature loose because they don'thurt anyone. And I believe they're becoming
more aware as time goes on.They're they're coming to in my grandson's time,
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they may be almost extinct. Andyou're talking about a high you know,
Ohio, its like the third thirdmost sightings in the country of big
foot type creatures. Yeah, Iheard, there's a lot of big foot
activities, especially in southern Ohio.Yes, there is, but I know
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there's a lot of places that peoplego specifically to these state parks to go
and go big footing, and Iactually they've been seeing even closer to the
city as well. I've never seenone, but I've I've heard the people
not looking for bigfoot. It justhappened to be camping or out in the
woods or doing some sort of excursionand have these crazy experiences. But getting
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back to being armed, and Ilove that you say you would let it
go and you wouldn't kill it justto prove it, because I think that
is horrible that these people would thinkthey have to have a body to prove
the existence of these creatures. Imean, I don't know is if any
sort of life is worth that.But now, well, I guess I
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kind of answered my question. Thismysterious person, this guy could get shot.
I mean, I'm thinking, ifhe's running around in the woods and
you guys might not know what itis, is this something coming towards you.
I don't understand how this person canbe lurking around without permission. You
don't know who he is, andisn't he afraid of getting shot with everyone
with guns, with the chaos thathappens, because that happens with sometimes when
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you're you're in the trap or oryou're near the in an area where has
just been there. And we've seena lot of that this season, where
these near misses and he's right outsidethe door and and he's so close,
and there's a long fun Well,we have the team and I don't think
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we were run into this one.Here. We've laid down a procedure for
anything like that happens if if we'reif we if I feel then we're in
immediate danger. Okay, the firstthing we will do is far in the
air, and we did that.We did that and a big on a
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big foot a year or so ago, and they immediately left the area,
immediately left the area. Um,the only creature we've ver fired on,
I think I fired on the Pookahuna'sfar dragon to the turning, and then
we fired on on the Bare Beastthe Bear Beast episode of season two.
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Those where both times when I feltthat the team was in immediate danger.
I don't think and even with thisperson, of course, everyone on that
team is very, very familiar withhandling firearms and very good shots, even
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though I'm the best shot, andthey know how to handle themselves and they
know they know what to do inthat situation. We would absolutely not far
on a person. I mean,that would be just I mean, that
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would be I'm an little combat veteranand ju we can't do that. I
mean unless we'd be getting fired onor something within a situation we had to
protect ourselves. That won't happen.But this, these these men in black
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is it's really a concern for theteam and myself. I'm sorry further thoughts
or questions. I'm just looking forwardto finding out who this these men in
black are, these these people are, because that that is almost as intriguing
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as the Monster Hunt itself. Soum, it's an interesting storyline. That's
we've done with this, so Ican't wait to see how it develops.
Trapper, how do you guys decideto take you know, it's not really
a detour, but to specialize inBigfoot for at least I guess it's the
first half of this season. Ofcourse, we started out, we started
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out the very first one in theMidnight Quistler. We started out in central
Kentucky and I wanted to prove whenthe team wanted to prove that that Bigfoot
existed in Appalachia. Being on ashadow of down, I wanted to have
proof for America that bigfoot exists inthe Appalachia. Okay, that was that.
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That was the initial mission this seasonfor the team, and of course
the Cameras and uh Des Nation AmericanAmerican teams will follow. Well after the
Midnight Whistler, we had some morecryptic creatures if we did in the previous
seasons that we needed to go afteragain. Um that we were close to
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catching them before, and so thetwo Pacabra was one of them, and
well, hell then we ran intoa big foot there because these places are
really isolated. I mean they're they'reback in quite a few miles, and
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we use old logan roads and inold coal mine strips to get to them,
and a lot of times we doa lot of chainsaw work on old
trails to get aside besides and stuffin there. But then we did we
did the wild Man episode, whichI think's first generation from the Midnight Whistler
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there in eastern Kentucky, and itwas a big foot. Well then we
do the Hellhound. We get downinto Lincoln County after the Hellhound, and
we have a witness that says hehas a big foot in this isolated part
of Lincoln County, West Virginia.So and then we found that pre struck
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true that outside down tree. Itwas just that was one of the most
amazing things I've ever seen. Thattree was twenty foot in the air and
something very big with a lot ofpower did that to groove that tree and
egram like that. And this Saturdaynight we're going to Clay County, West
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Virginia back after the Yahoo. Atthis point in time, I'll tell you
that we're not sure if the lasttime the yard who was a Nicholas County
and they just virtually border on eachother, and if he travels, if
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big Foot travels as waterways like Ithink he does now, he's only like
twenty miles. It's only about atwenty mile move from Nicholas County up into
Clay County. So it's that timeof the year. Uh, Clay County
is the home of a golden deliciousapple, I mean, And we was
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there right of the end of thecrops season and there was a big foot
in their feeding in this orchard.That's how we that's how we got into
this orchard. And there's a couple, there's a couple of things there.
That's uh, that'll fell a hitchin everything is we may have a meeting
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of clans right there, because ifI remember right, we don't only run
into a yahoo in Clay County,we also run into a whistler play a
big foot. So really the theit wasn't it planned out. It's just
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the way it turned out. Asyou were pursuing the various scriptids um that
you had scheduled, you kept runninginto big foots. So you know when
in roll put your big foot out. Well, it's almost like the cheaper
cobra and the hell hound and maybecoyotes, maybe the bobcats, maybe all
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of them kind of work hand inhand with when there's a big foot in
the area the hunt for him.If guys sit on the show, maybe
they're using the cheaper cabra to hellhand to coyote, just the same way
we use our hunting bugs. Sothere's a lot of a lot of a
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lot of questions to be answered thisseason very interesting. We have not really
run into that heretofore as far asvarious cryptids or encryptid and other animals literally
working together. That is a veryinteresting concept. Well on that. We're
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going to take a brief break hereat the bottom of the hour and we
will be right back with America's MostHaunted Radio and trapper John Tice from Mountain
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Never even America Olsen It's America's mosthaunted radio and Teresa Argie and I
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are speaking with the ever more famous. Soon he will will be I don't
know. Maybe he'll run for presidentas long as he was born in the
US, which I think he was. Trapper John Tye of Mountain Monsters,
What a pleasure speaking with you,John. At first half hour went by
like a brad. I didn't makeit to a hospital. I was more
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alpha, so it was. Igotta tell you. So was my wife.
But she won't tell. She hasmanaged to purge the West Virginia from
her speech, other than when shesays, holler, yeah, alcohola yeah,
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they trace. I gotta I gottachime in with you. I had
a chance. I had a chancethat this all started many many many years
ago when we did my son andI did an article that was published in
Goldfield magazine or an Ike's Tomb inWest Virginia, and I had a chance
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to go out with some ghost hunters, and I had permission to be at
Ike's teams where they got me andand sit in a chair and listen to
the people, the ghost hunters orthe local organization one night, all night
at Ike's tomb, and I wasvery impressed. They they told me some
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things that night. I was toldto them there that there's nowhere in the
world they would ever have known.And I was probably one of the few
people still alive that best that knewit. But I was impressed with our
little local ghost hunters. There aresome good moods. That's very interesting.
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It was a very interesting night.It can be a lot of fun.
It's it's it's it's exciting as I'msure what you do is very exciting,
and it can really be. Ilike to describe it as hours of total
boredom interrupted by moments of complete terror. Um. But it's not quite as
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bad as when you're out in thewoods and you're hunting and you're looking for
something that could kill you. I'venever come across a ghost that could do
more than maybe scratch you or pushyou or something. But it is still
very exciting. I'm glad you hada good experience with that, because we
get a bad name ghost hunters.We get a bad name. Is I'm
sure you've heard some backlash and whatyou do as well. UM, so
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when you meet, when you meetthe good ones, it's it's good to
hang onto those. I'm glad hehad a good experience. We had a
couple of ghost hunting experiences where wehad people coming out to kind of see
what we do, which is whatI thought when I first saw that strange
person on the episode of Mountain MonstersFollowing You, I thought it was like
a fan. It's like, Hey, I'm going to see what these guys
are doing, not realizing that they'vethey've inserted themselves into the investigation, whether
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intentionally or unintentionally, and it changesthe dynamic. It can really be disruptive,
if not dangerous. So you know, we have a lot of I
believe they're getting ready to start theirsecond season. Ghost of Sylems on Investigation
of America. Boy, i'milla rememberthis off pop my head. I believe
April fifth, Sunday Night is aGhost of Silems will be on for a
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second season, and it's a showthat I enjoy watching. Yeah, Chris
the leader for that for the TennesseeRath Chasers. He was also on Paranormal
Challenge, a show that I wason, So he's a He's a good
guy from everything I've heard. I'mglad those guys got a shot, and
I'm glad they got a show andthey're working on their second season. Because
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it's tough back there. I mean, I'm so happy to hear you guys
got a second season, now athird season and ghost Asylum because people keep
saying, they keep telling me thatthis paranormal genre is dying, and I
don't believe it for a second.So I say, more power to them,
and good for you guys coming back, because I think it's great,
and I'm glad the whole original teamis still together because you couldn't. You
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couldn't cross the part with a crowbar. What John give us a big
prounce on how the team came together. That'd be great. Ah, Okay,
Well, I know most of theguys I think will It says he
was a pop, I mean justsays he was a boy, a little
feller. He was raised up onSure Craig and here in West Virginia,
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just down the road from me fromthe home place. So I've did Willy
forever, and I will tell youwhat. We don't have a construction crew,
or we don't have this, orwe don't have that. That's the
son of a gun. Will buildthose traps in a day or two with
while Bill's hill. He just heamazes me. It is a man when
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a lot of times he'll work wayinto the night when we're back at the
motel taking it easy, and Willieasleep a few hours in he's truck and
go back to work. He's anamazing person. So I've known Willy forever.
Huckle Berry was an operator on constructionand I was a bullermager, so
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that's how we met. And Iknew when we figured out we needed security,
I knew exactly the man I wantedto go to was Huckleberry. Huckle
Berry has no fear, He's downto earth, He's rock. And I'll
tell you what, I don't haveto worry about a thing because I'll guarantee
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you when I look over my shoulder, Huckleberry standing right there. And a
lot of times he don't have muchto say, but when he says something,
someone should listen. And Jeff gotinto us because of his research and
stuff he would bring to me tostart with, and that's when we originally
started the Ames team. That wasmyself, Jeff, and Willie, and
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Jeff was on research and Willie wasscouting with me and we decided to build
traps. And then huncle Berry andBuck has been friends since Buck was just
young, so huckle Berry came tome and says, well, we got
this guy. He's only like atthat time, he was like twenty five
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years old or twenty four years old, quite a few years ago. And
he said, he's quite the character. He sometimes he believes in the stuff
we do. I told him alittle bit because back then it was really
closed lift. We didn't tell anyonewhat we did. And so he introduced
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me to Back and Buck came alongand he was he was Black was quite
the joy for the team. Ithink he was the one. He was
the one that brought us together andlaughter because Back always has something cute to
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say about like uncle Berry. They'rekind of cut out the same Molden forty
or fifty years difference in age.He was, he kind of tied us
together. He's he's believed it ornot. It's a rookie. He's kind
of the glue. You understand whatI'm saying. Yes, we all like
for Bock because he's our kid.He's every one of our sons, you
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know, so we all look outfor. Then we had a mutual friend
and will we need to help onthose traps and someone that can climb and
do the things that we do.A mutual friend told me about wild Bill,
and wild Bill come and talk tome. And wild Bill is exactly
wild Bill. He's exactly the wayhe is on television in real life.
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I guess we all are, butwild Bill is He's just he's fun to
be around and a boy. Hecan climb Kenny, he's scampers around.
And I actually have no idea howold he is, you know, I
really, honestly, I think Ithink Bill's about fifty one, fifty two,
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fifty three in that range. Wow, and he's going to a fifties
Huckleberry Snackleberry's and he's at least septeenyears younger. May he's about fifty seven.
I think Jess Young thought he's aboutfifty. You know, it really
is about forty. So we havequite the age group there, you sure
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do. It's really quite a quitea range. And but again, it
just feels very real, it feelsvery organic. And yeah, it makes
perfect sense that you guys would kindof rally around the youngest guy and the
one that who's newest to the tothe game, as it were, and
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feel protective of him. You're allhis uncles. I would imagine that kind
of thing or even or even fatherfigures. So I think that all comes
through really well. And as wewere saying at the beginning of the show,
what I keep hearing over and overagain, now that you guys have
been around for a while and peoplehave had a chance to kind of not
not just that initial reaction, notnot that shall first impression, but really
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have had a chance to see howyou guys operate and how you work and
how you think. And I justkeep hearing this over and over again.
Those guys are smart. You know, they're kind of playing up the appellation
aspect of it, or of theirpersonalities and appearance and whatnot. But you
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know, you guys have to bevery sharp to know what you're doing out
there and to be able to coordinateall this activity and the engineering aspect,
and then just purely the outdoor skills. I mean, the show is worth
watching just to pick up on theskills of the outdoors. You are true
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woodsman, and that's becoming more andmore a rare commodity these days. A
smart woodsman. Wow, that's apretty good combo. Yeah, well,
we know all the roots and curesand nuts and trees. And I told
them one time, I said,I said, I can name every tree
in the woods. You pointed outlineof what it is. You know,
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I know what it bears, Iknow what time of year it bears,
and I know I know wildlife.I think I think there'd be a great
crypto hunter, and I hate touse that crypto zoologist. Just a crypto
hunter, you have to be manyyears trained outdoorsmen. I started out hunting
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gray squirrels when I was just apop bow ten years old. I killed
my first waykail buck when I wasthirteen or fourteen in big waykail Dear.
You know this is a high arehard to kill, and I got seven
in a way tail Hall of Fame. Agree with a guy in in four
of the Bow so as I said, I'm as comfortable, I'm as comfortable
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in a deep blackest darkness hollow atmidnight if those people are kicked back and
a lazy boy. You know onething I've always realized is, don't matter
what's out there, I'm the alphapredator. Well, I think, yeah,
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approach it that way. You gotto have that level of confidence.
You have to have that that mindsetthat you're not afraid that you can handle
whatever comes at you and I'm surehaving your own what amounts to a pack,
right if you want to talk inYeah, you have your own pack,
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so that that makes a big difference. That's very supportive in all of
your years, in all of yourhunting, and then of course obviously especially
when you are specifically looking for cryptids, what would you say is the one
most startling, the one most amazingexperience, or at least the most unexpected.
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Well, I think someone asked methis the other day about the episodes
and this, and the most unexpectedwas a sheep squatch. I mean he
kicked my butt. I mean hejust out straight out with me. He
pissed in my eyes. He hadbuttered us in the side then to brand
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in the side beside at the endof the episode, right at the trap
when we come over that highwall,and then up in Preston County, West
Virginia, that fine snawygaster was justunbelievable. I mean that was just that
was something that that I couldn't figureout how to protect the team, I
mean, or I catch it ordo anything about it. I was just
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I was actually overwhelmed with the snallygaster. It just if it taught me
completely off guard. It was waymore dangerous than I thought it was,
and a lot more scarier than Ithought it was. So he could and
I didn't think. I thought we'dget in thick timber would be okay.
It couldn't got through his trees,and I was wrong. He could just
give any place. But we haven'thad a lot of those close calls.
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And the guys say let's go,and we all get pumped up when we
get in that damn red trucket headdown the road because you know, wine,
we're old shish and this makes theadrenaline rush that they adrenaline flow is
unbelievable. I mean, it's justpeople say, the hair stand up on
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back of your neck. It's likeI can feel my artery swelling. I
can feel me, I can feelme myself coming to me. Um.
It's just it's it's a fascinating feeling. It's a dangerous feeling, but it's
it's when it's all over and youbreak out in a cold sweat and you'd
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say, damn, I'm alive.I mean, I'm living this. I
mean, this is this is whatI do. Yeah, I'm sure it
makes you feel young. It remindsyou that you're still young. It reminds
you. Yeah, yeah, evenwhen they have to drag me out of
the woods all beat down back,Well, you know, someone has to
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do it. I'm interested in youroverall I'm all. I'm always asking people
this, and half the time itseems to annoy them. What is your
overall kind of concept? You yourmental concept of how all this fits together?
In other words, these creatures thatyou're looking for, whether they be
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very as on Bigfoot or any ofthe others. The help the various hounds,
I'll give I'll I'll give you some. I'll give you some real good
stuff that that in the Bigfoot inAppolachia that we're going to uncover this season.
I have always thought, I havealways thought when when we an episode
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one of the Midnight crystal Um,some of the guys are thinking that was
right at the end of the episode, some of the guys were thinking that
was a graveyard, and I thoughtthat was a rendezvous place. I thought
that was a place where the differentclans, and there are definitely different clans
from from North Carolina up into Tennesseeup to Kentucky, West Virginia, Virginia
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clear into Pennsylvania will get this year, and of course or high. There's
different clans of Bigfoot. I believethey all general rated from that first midnight
Whistler clan in central Kentucky that maybethree thousand years ago emerged them the Mammoth
Caves and they've spread out from there. I don't know. If the clan
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gets too big, young males willgrab a female, takeoff and settle in
an isolated place. A lot ofBigfoot researchers in their area need to research
in the in folklore as deep asthey can get into it. And you
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will find out that before we werehere that the Indians knew about these big
foot creatures. Oh yeah, andyou lost it. I mean you'll also
find out as the season goes on. I really work hard or proving that
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they're using our waterways in Appollack mostof us travel routes. Are they swimming
or are they walking? Or aredo they use some sort of floatation?
They work, They work the edgeof the waterways. If you if you
ever go through, if you willfollow the Colorado River on Interstates satellity in
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the Rocky Mountains, the easiest routeto build a road is right along the
waterway. It's where the generations wehave been railway tracks in these mountains.
Excuse me, it's always right alongthe waterway. I'll tell you what you
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can do. If he's a youngman. You can go through any large
city in the United States at threeo'clock in the morning and the edge of
that river and not be seen.Thing that makes good sense, Teresa,
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we are approaching the end here.I'm sure you have more thoughts and or
questions I do, uh now inyour opinion, how many different types of
bigfoot creatures are there in the UnitedStates? And which are the which are
potentially the most dangerous or the scariestum because I find that fascinating because you
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know, when I grew up,it was there was bigfoot, and you
know, and then there was theyeddi and that was it. But there's
all these different types and different uhgenres of them. I don't know how
to explain it. But what breakit down for me as best you can?
And how many there are and whatare Yeah, Teresa, even in
Appalachia, from Pennsylvania down to theCarolinas, there's different plans and they're very
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similar in size and shape. Maybethey hair color will be a little different
as they get older. Okay,And a big fiddler change size from in
the following year. He might weigheight hundred pounds in the spring of the
year. When he comes out ofthe winter, he may weigh five hundred
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pounds because this food store setting verygood. So they change size and shape,
not in height, but they changesize and shape their own self.
But here's another thing. Different clanshave different vocal communications. As the midnight
whistler they're in eastern Kentucky, hewould have whistled more than he made those
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grunts, those growling sounds, andthose tree knock sounds. So the Yahoo
from Nicholas County, West Virginia,he has that distinct Yahoo yelled. So
they are exactly they're virtually exactly saying. It's like it's like going to southwestern
West Virginia. Then in Boone Countyand downing deep in the mountains, you
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move right straight across the state toLewisburg, and the people's completely different.
I mean, these are really countrypeople in Boone County. Great people have
hunted different years, bear hunted.You go over to Lewisburg and they're more
Virginia. Say the different clans areexactly the same way. They're all the
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same, but they're different too.What are the most aggressive ones or the
midnight cluster? I believe in instrinKentucky. So what do we have to
worry about here in Ohio besides theOhio grass Matter. There any other clans
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that you know about in our area. I rave there's a small clan in
southeastern high But the Grassman is notedto being the largest of all the big
foots in Appalachia. We could getup eleven hundred pounds and ten foot tall.
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He's huge, and I believe it'sjust because his food source is so
much better. Wow, ten foottall, I mean that is kind of
when you really think about that tenfoot tall. I think a seven foot
tall person is a monster. Thinkoff a ten foot tall big foot running
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into in the woods. That wouldbe terrifying. It's amazing how they kept
out of sight for as long asthey have. I believe. I believe
if you put me into an isolatedplace and I was a few years younger
where I would have no problem survivingin West Virginia, that I would never
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be seen. If I didn't wantto be there, you have to realize
that too. They have far moreintelligence and a normal wild creature, they
have the ability to think, retainmemory. Their intelligence level is probably it's
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not as good as ours, butit's it's it's pushing it. What do
you think Bigfoot is? What areyour thoughts and what it is? Biologically?
I think he's a breed of hisown I mean he's not an ape's
not a human. He's absolutely aIf you dig into folklore in the in
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folklore and everything and do the research, I think he's absolutely his own being.
How many would you guess there are, saying in Appalachia just for example,
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I'd say someplace between one hundred andtwo hundred. Wow, So that
really is a small population that wouldcertainly go a long way to explaining why
they're not found. Plus, they'reobvious abilities, and we've seen that demonstrated.
We've seen various teams in different shows, and I've read articles where people
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have come up very very close,you know, and sprung upon people and
they were never seen. You know, if you're not looking for them,
if you don't hear them, ifyou don't smell them, then obviously they
have the ability to to stay hidden. If there's only one hundred to two
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hundred of them over all those whathundreds of thousands of acres millions of acres.
I guess they just they don't wantto be seen. That's that's one
of their main objectives. Every mostevery time, it's not a Bigfoot research
team that gets the picture of me. It's up the Mountain Monster's team gets
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the picture. Every it's a completelyinnocent civilian with a cell phone that gets
the picture. So that picture isa picture of accident. That's an accident
picture. It just happened to bein the right place at the right time.
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Well, that seems to be theway it works with ghosts too.
You know, it's often people whoaren't particularly looking for them who seem to
run into them. And I'm notsure. I'm not sure the ultimate cause
of that. The perversity of theuniverse, you know, it's something the
law of unintended consequences. I'm notsure. All right, Well, we
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have actually unbelievably run out of time, Teresa, any final thoughts. I
just wish you the best of luckfor the rest of the season, happy
hunting, and stay safe out there. And I can't thank you enough for
coming back on the show. It'salways a pleasure. And next time you
come to Ohio, have you gotto give us a call. I'll take
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you ghost hunting. If you takeme big footing the high I don't want
to. We'll be in a highmy first, second, and third Creature
Weekend at Salt Fork State Park inCambridge high And make sure you're tuning in
this coming Saturday night for the yanyepisode at ten nine Central on Destination America.
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Very good. You're like a professionalTV guy now, I don't even
have to say that. There yougo. You did it for me.
All right, Well, we'd betterease out here real quickly. We're running
over. Thank you so much,Trapper John Tye, leader of the Ames
team, Stars of Mountain Monsters,Destination America's wildly popular show, and as
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John said, it's on Saturday nightsten nine Central, and this season they
are specifically focused on Bigfoot. Thankyou so much, John. Always a
pleasure, really enjoyed it. Thankyou to all listeners. It's America's most
taunted. We'll be back live nextMonday at eight pm Eastern, seven Central.
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Good night, everybody,
My friends, my miracles, andit's the time once again for America's most
added radio, bringing together the finestminds of personalities from across them eron normals.
Can you call back? So?Sorry about that? A mix up
in my own system there for asecond, pardon me, could you call
(00:28):
this phone number back? I hada mix up of my own call system
there, so give me one second. This is Trapper. If you want
me call back, I will.That would be wonderful. This is the
engineer of the show. I justhappened to hit the wrong button when I've
added the end, so that'd bekiller, Okay, thanky, all right,
(00:58):
it's America's well I thought it miraclesand what a delight to be here.
And as each week goes by,we're just gonna get better and better
at getting this beginning the show stuffsorted out. We have an amazing,
amazing, mind bogglingly wondrous show.This evening we are speaking once again.
This is an encore. He's becomea pal of ours with Trapper John Tye
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of Mountain Monsters. But before wedo that, we have, as usual,
the world famous Haunted housewife with usthis evening, Teresa Argie how are
you, Teresa. I'm great.I wouldn't miss this show for anything.
Mountain Monsters one of the greatest showson television right now. And everyone on
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Facebook is all of buzz and everyoneis jealous that we get to talk to
him once again. So very excitingto have Trapper back on the show to
night. And he is not heis not from too far off. I
was just looking through some of theall the various social media and looks like
his team, the Aims team,they have regular meetings, just not really
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that far away down in Marietta,Ohio. Did you know that? I
didn't know that. I know thatthere's a lot of big footers here in
Ohio. It's a it's a greatsteak for it, because once you get
out of Cleveland, let's face it, there's a lot of wilderness. And
I know that we've gone down tosome of the state parks, not really
for bigfooting, but we certainly didhear the stories. You know, my
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fellow Haunted housewife Kathy Webber. Whenwe're not being paranormal investigators and haunted housewives,
we like to call ourselves the SquatchSisters, but we really don't get
out in the woods as much aswe like to, but that is something
that we've liked, we've dreamt aboutdoing for a long time. We're gonna
combine one day a haunted trip witha big Foot haunt and our friends from
(02:53):
the Kent Paranormal Weekend. We've beentalking about this. They've got some recommendations
of places that we can go tobigfooting and ghost hunting at the same time.
So I want if trappers that areDowney ghost hunting during his Bigfoot investigations,
because they kind of go hand inhand. Well, in a sense
they do. I'm not sure I'mwilling to literally blend them as in is
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Bigfoot a spiritual entity? I'm notsure I'm willing to go that far.
I think for me, Bigfoot isstill assuming he exists. Of course,
Bigfoot is still a biological entity,as as put forward by by our other
friends over at Finding Bigfoot. Well, let's let people know what's going on
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with the show tonight and just getsome of the details for those who I
don't know live in a cave orsomething. Mountain Monsters is Destination, America's
wildly popular cryptid adventure show, nowin season three, airing at ten PM
Eastern and Pacific nine Central on Saturdaynights, and we follow an expert team
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of Native West Virginia hunters and trappersas they defend Appalachia from mysterious creatures that
have spawned fear and defied capture forgenerations and generations. This season, the
team is zeroed in on Bigfoot,which I think is a very interesting move.
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And of course Bigfoot goes by manymany names throughout the Appalachia Greater Appalachia
region, including wild Man and theMidnight Whistler, but all versions are big,
hairy, and scary. It's beardsversus beasts, as are grizzled friends.
The Appalachian Investigators of Mysterious Sightings akaAims, led by trapper John Tye,
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are out to prove the existence ofBigfoot in Appalachia. So there that's
a mouthful. I am telling you. So how you like in the new
season, Teresa, I'm loving it. I just I think it's it's kind
of frightening to think of the situationsthey get in and what happens to them
and what could be happening. Imean, you think you got all these
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cameras around, you know, nothing'sgoing to happen because that's what we're used
to seeing. But man, theseguys get up close and personal, and
it is quite terrifying to think ofwhat they're happening to go through out there
in the dark, because we rememberwhat we're seeing on TV. We're seeing
the infrared, but they're seeing itin a pitch black, so it's got
to be terrifying out there. SoI think it's an interesting choice they're going
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with all bigfoots, but I thinkthat's great. I think that there's so
much to do just with that onepart of the entire cryptid Rainbow of creatures
that they could do a couple ofseasons of this. So it's been really
interesting. They've been doing some greatstuff and I just love watching it,
and me and Kathy we get akick out of this. We love watching
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a text and back and forth duringthe shows. It's awesome. Yeah,
they're a lot of fun. Andwhen I'm talking to people, I'm interacting
about the show, whether it beonline, social media or just talking to
friends. What I'm what I arecurring theme now, which is very interesting
if you think about it. Anhour in season three. I've heard this
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several times from Independent sources. Wow, those guys are a lot smarter than
they look. We have Trapper Johnwith us. Yeah, hey, Trapper,
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what have you back? Well,we're we're all we're all about bullsman.
So it's kind of like it's kindof like you how your living room
right right? Well, we're veryvery happy to have you back on the
(06:58):
show. We really appreciate. Hardto believe it's already been almost a year.
Looks like it was last May thatyou were on. And what's amazing
to me because we talked once beforethat. We talked right when the show
launched, the very very beginning,and of course at that point, I
mean, look, new shows,broadly speaking, new paranormal shows are,
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let's be honest, a dime adozen. But man, yours has taken
off. It is the most popularshow in the history of Destination America.
What do you think of that?Why do you think that's that? It's
the case? Well, I guessI just pitched myself once in a while.
I hadn't changed life. My cheerin the heels, it's about the
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same. I'm typically off to haveour great partners like Destination to America behind
us and American and Saintsaw Entertainment.It's our production company. And I guess
we just uh, I don't knowif it's a lot care a lot it
is. I talked to a lotof fans. I'm m. I try
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to keep connected with them on Facebookand Twitter and stuff as much as I
can. And I think, Ithink what it is is we do a
lot of deep research. Jeff,Jeff, our researcher, is so good
at that. And I believe it'sthe cambaraderie among the team, um that
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that our team is. Our teamis more like we're more like family.
We've been together a very very longtime. Uh, instead of teams that
they throw together to make a televisionshow. It's just, uh, we
care about each other, We careabout what we do. And I think
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it just takes um. It takesa lot. It takes It takes more
than just cameras running and doing researchand stuff. It takes a lot that
goes into it behind the scenes,the work, the work that we do,
mostly the research we do, allthe scouting trips we make, and
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before we bring the cameras and Steffon, we pretty well know what's going
on, what's happening. I thinkyou're right. One of the first thing
you said was the camaraderie, andI think that's something you can't really fake.
I think that really comes through howmuch fun you guys have together,
how much respect you have for eachother. You have varied abilities kind of
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within you know, you share alot of characteristics, of course, but
beyond that, you have some specificskills. I'm always amazed by the traps
that Willie and wild Bill are puttingtogether. It's really quite astonishing the complexity
and how how well they work.And uh, you know, I mean,
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one of these days, one ofthose critters is going to be in
one of those traps. I'm atelling you heard here the time. That's
right, we've heard all America's mostthought of the time is coming. We're
going to get that sob in atrap, you know. And for all
those trappers out there in the world, they uh, they understand why we're
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going through trying to drive craft something. It's uh, it's it's a very
hard thing to do. I cantell you a short story about when coyotes
first moved into this part of WestVirginia. You know, it took us
quite a few years to learn howto trap them um in any creatures like
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that, And anytime we go afterone of these bigfoot creatures or the hellhound
or chopra, we're going out therepretty well and just using our years of
experience on the bait to use andwhat kind of a trap to build to
catch this creature. I mean,if we had two years to catch him,
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you'd be caught delie and or buttsabout it. So we don't have
two years to catch him. Buckhas a job, and there's always there's
always a pending, pending investigation forus to go to and a new adrenaline
rush. Well sure, I meanwe've already seen some pretty amazing things.
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I love the bigfoot emphasis this season, at least thus far, even though
you're varying a little bit from andyou had the Chipcabra and I got the
hell hound, but it all kindof seems to circle back around a big
foot. I thought it was reallyamazing when you guys found that nest.
I mean that looked like the realthing to me. Oh yeah, yeah,
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that was that was I believe Ieven said that there, that this
was one of the most intricate structures. Um that some of the guns right
up at the beaver and building abuilding. I mean, he built a nest.
It was just it was well camouflaged, it was well concealed. It
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was it was weather proof where ifyou'd get a snow winter snow the top
of it, it'd be quite insulated. And a lot of a lot of
thoughts, a lot of energy,and a lot of effort went in,
uh to build that trap, thatthat that nest that the beaver was scaled
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up to eight feet tall. Yeah, exactly. Now, what's the intrigue
behind this person? Apparently a personwas stocking you guys or following you around,
sneaking around. Yeah, we kindof we we've seen him. We've
seen him one on the infrared cameraearly in the season, I believe in
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Midnight Whistler episode, and then heor the uper Ca uper Corb episode,
I believe it was. We've seenhim behind huckle Bay. And initially we
thought it was a big foot.Actually we thought it was a big flip
when the campus are run. ButJeff and I and the guys we got
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to study that a lot more andwe decided we initially I thought it was
a um, maybe a router.Someone was protecting the jin sank fields or
their yellow root fields. And thenwe kind of come to conclusion after finding
that big foot printer in that runthat it was a big foot, but
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that was that was the first instanceand it was never but this last time,
this last time in the wild Bandepisode, there was definitely no an
all bus about as a person therewith night vision when he said that caught
us. Jeff caught him on theinfrared by accident, and then one of
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our camera man got an infrared pictureof it. Yes, we went buying
the side to side and absolutely wasnot any of the cast or crew.
We was in a lead side besidethe cast all was and the crew was
in one or two side the sidesbehind us. So we're definitely being watched.
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We know that now we're we're doingthings to keep from being followed when
we leave our home home base herein West Virginia. M' we're aloys been
very closed lift of what we do, so we don't have a leak among
the team and we and I'm surewe don't have a lead among the crew.
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The crew has been with us nowfor three seasons and they're very they're
very cussworthy. I mean they're justthey're just thought the guys are cut that
way. Speaking of a crew,they were pretty well concrete people back a
couple of years ago in episode one, season one, that they're kind of
becoming season Woodsman now that they're alla lot better. I We're definitely being
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watched and as the season goes along. I don't want to I don't want
to tell about the men in black, but they will. They will appear
again or more than one time.Wow, well that is intriguing. I
must say, I'm very curious tosee how that works out. Teresa.
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What are your thoughts? Yeah,I think that that's it's fascinating that you
have this mysterious person or possibly peoplethat are following you and the viewers will
you said, well, we'll knowa little more as the season goes on.
But how remote are these locations thatyou were going to? I mean,
are these is this public or privateproperty that you're you guys are looking
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for these these creatures on do youhave to have special permission to be out
there or how far are they?Is it really accessible for just somebody to
just be out there maybe camping orsomething, or mean, well in the
grass Lan episodes last year, Yes, we uh any property owners that we
can find and know about, weseek permission to be on their property.
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But in the Grassban episode in theseason finale last year, if you remember
in Moonshine halloand what we call MoonshineHalla in Perry County high we ran onto
that Moonshine still and we was surewe shouldn't be at that point in time.
So these people, uh no oneelse's was questioned, our landowners and
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no one else's uh went back anduh and seek permission to be on their
property. They were there without permission, uh, and there we think we
we we try to fly under theradar just as much as possible, especially
when we're filming and any other time. Also said we're not seeing. We
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kind of try to stay in placesall the way. We don't make ourselves
uh seen as much as possible.Um. Even though even though our look
is starting to get around and peoplerecognize it, we still may I may
we're a baseball cap instead of myregular halt and or a hoodie or something
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just to cover up who we areand what we're doing and what we're there,
because we don't want we just wecan't have a bunch of people around
or people following us to find outwhat hollow we're in or where we're unroading
our side the side of where we'reworking at. It would just it would
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not only and mess up the investigationthat we're trying to do for some landowners
that are in harm, but alsomess up or camera work. Now,
the one thing that I keep thinkingof, especially when I saw that the
episode where where the person was capturedon camera, and this kind of leads
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me back to another question I have. So I'm going to tie it together.
Um, you guys build these trapsand your your hope is to capture
these creatures big Foot or the wildman, er towobcover, whatever you're looking
for is to capture them live.But you are heavily armed, and you
would be willing Would you be willingto shoot and kill one ask proof or
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only to to kind of protect yourself? I mean, how far would you
go? Would you if it wasif they were it was getting away and
you had to shoot it to provethat it was there? Would you do
that? Or was that only forprotection? If it's if it's getting away
from us, We've already proved itit's there to us okay, and that's
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a lot of times, that's all. That's that's what we get done.
We prove that that creature existed.Okay, now if we get it in
a trap. And now you haveto realize, a bigfoot hurting someone is
probably one of the rarest things thereis besides besides those campers in Russia with
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the YETI I don't believe there's everbeen where the very very shy creature.
They're inquisitive. They will come inand watch to see what's going on and
give you some tree knots or so. There's some rocks thatcher and do some
stuff. But if we would catchone, and when we do catch one,
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even though that everyone would love thepublicity and everything. We will do
pictures, We will maybe try toget a hair sample, and we will
turn that creature loose because they don'thurt anyone. And I believe they're becoming
more aware as time goes on.They're they're coming to in my grandson's time,
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they may be almost extinct. Andyou're talking about a high you know,
Ohio, its like the third thirdmost sightings in the country of big
foot type creatures. Yeah, Iheard, there's a lot of big foot
activities, especially in southern Ohio.Yes, there is, but I know
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there's a lot of places that peoplego specifically to these state parks to go
and go big footing, and Iactually they've been seeing even closer to the
city as well. I've never seenone, but I've I've heard the people
not looking for bigfoot. It justhappened to be camping or out in the
woods or doing some sort of excursionand have these crazy experiences. But getting
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back to being armed, and Ilove that you say you would let it
go and you wouldn't kill it justto prove it, because I think that
is horrible that these people would thinkthey have to have a body to prove
the existence of these creatures. Imean, I don't know is if any
sort of life is worth that.But now, well, I guess I
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kind of answered my question. Thismysterious person, this guy could get shot.
I mean, I'm thinking, ifhe's running around in the woods and
you guys might not know what itis, is this something coming towards you.
I don't understand how this person canbe lurking around without permission. You
don't know who he is, andisn't he afraid of getting shot with everyone
with guns, with the chaos thathappens, because that happens with sometimes when
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you're you're in the trap or oryou're near the in an area where has
just been there. And we've seena lot of that this season, where
these near misses and he's right outsidethe door and and he's so close,
and there's a long fun Well,we have the team and I don't think
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we were run into this one.Here. We've laid down a procedure for
anything like that happens if if we'reif we if I feel then we're in
immediate danger. Okay, the firstthing we will do is far in the
air, and we did that.We did that and a big on a
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big foot a year or so ago, and they immediately left the area,
immediately left the area. Um,the only creature we've ver fired on,
I think I fired on the Pookahuna'sfar dragon to the turning, and then
we fired on on the Bare Beastthe Bear Beast episode of season two.
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Those where both times when I feltthat the team was in immediate danger.
I don't think and even with thisperson, of course, everyone on that
team is very, very familiar withhandling firearms and very good shots, even
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though I'm the best shot, andthey know how to handle themselves and they
know they know what to do inthat situation. We would absolutely not far
on a person. I mean,that would be just I mean, that
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would be I'm an little combat veteranand ju we can't do that. I
mean unless we'd be getting fired onor something within a situation we had to
protect ourselves. That won't happen.But this, these these men in black
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is it's really a concern for theteam and myself. I'm sorry further thoughts
or questions. I'm just looking forwardto finding out who this these men in
black are, these these people are, because that that is almost as intriguing
(24:33):
as the Monster Hunt itself. Soum, it's an interesting storyline. That's
we've done with this, so Ican't wait to see how it develops.
Trapper, how do you guys decideto take you know, it's not really
a detour, but to specialize inBigfoot for at least I guess it's the
first half of this season. Ofcourse, we started out, we started
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out the very first one in theMidnight Quistler. We started out in central
Kentucky and I wanted to prove whenthe team wanted to prove that that Bigfoot
existed in Appalachia. Being on ashadow of down, I wanted to have
proof for America that bigfoot exists inthe Appalachia. Okay, that was that.
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That was the initial mission this seasonfor the team, and of course
the Cameras and uh Des Nation AmericanAmerican teams will follow. Well after the
Midnight Whistler, we had some morecryptic creatures if we did in the previous
seasons that we needed to go afteragain. Um that we were close to
(25:52):
catching them before, and so thetwo Pacabra was one of them, and
well, hell then we ran intoa big foot there because these places are
really isolated. I mean they're they'reback in quite a few miles, and
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we use old logan roads and inold coal mine strips to get to them,
and a lot of times we doa lot of chainsaw work on old
trails to get aside besides and stuffin there. But then we did we
did the wild Man episode, whichI think's first generation from the Midnight Whistler
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there in eastern Kentucky, and itwas a big foot. Well then we
do the Hellhound. We get downinto Lincoln County after the Hellhound, and
we have a witness that says hehas a big foot in this isolated part
of Lincoln County, West Virginia.So and then we found that pre struck
(27:00):
true that outside down tree. Itwas just that was one of the most
amazing things I've ever seen. Thattree was twenty foot in the air and
something very big with a lot ofpower did that to groove that tree and
egram like that. And this Saturdaynight we're going to Clay County, West
(27:22):
Virginia back after the Yahoo. Atthis point in time, I'll tell you
that we're not sure if the lasttime the yard who was a Nicholas County
and they just virtually border on eachother, and if he travels, if
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big Foot travels as waterways like Ithink he does now, he's only like
twenty miles. It's only about atwenty mile move from Nicholas County up into
Clay County. So it's that timeof the year. Uh, Clay County
is the home of a golden deliciousapple, I mean, And we was
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there right of the end of thecrops season and there was a big foot
in their feeding in this orchard.That's how we that's how we got into
this orchard. And there's a couple, there's a couple of things there.
That's uh, that'll fell a hitchin everything is we may have a meeting
(28:27):
of clans right there, because ifI remember right, we don't only run
into a yahoo in Clay County,we also run into a whistler play a
big foot. So really the theit wasn't it planned out. It's just
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the way it turned out. Asyou were pursuing the various scriptids um that
you had scheduled, you kept runninginto big foots. So you know when
in roll put your big foot out. Well, it's almost like the cheaper
cobra and the hell hound and maybecoyotes, maybe the bobcats, maybe all
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of them kind of work hand inhand with when there's a big foot in
the area the hunt for him.If guys sit on the show, maybe
they're using the cheaper cabra to hellhand to coyote, just the same way
we use our hunting bugs. Sothere's a lot of a lot of a
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lot of questions to be answered thisseason very interesting. We have not really
run into that heretofore as far asvarious cryptids or encryptid and other animals literally
working together. That is a veryinteresting concept. Well on that. We're
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are speaking with the ever more famous. Soon he will will be I don't
know. Maybe he'll run for presidentas long as he was born in the
US, which I think he was. Trapper John Tye of Mountain Monsters,
What a pleasure speaking with you,John. At first half hour went by
like a brad. I didn't makeit to a hospital. I was more
(34:37):
alpha, so it was. Igotta tell you. So was my wife.
But she won't tell. She hasmanaged to purge the West Virginia from
her speech, other than when shesays, holler, yeah, alcohola yeah,
(35:02):
they trace. I gotta I gottachime in with you. I had
a chance. I had a chancethat this all started many many many years
ago when we did my son andI did an article that was published in
Goldfield magazine or an Ike's Tomb inWest Virginia, and I had a chance
(35:27):
to go out with some ghost hunters, and I had permission to be at
Ike's teams where they got me andand sit in a chair and listen to
the people, the ghost hunters orthe local organization one night, all night
at Ike's tomb, and I wasvery impressed. They they told me some
(35:52):
things that night. I was toldto them there that there's nowhere in the
world they would ever have known.And I was probably one of the few
people still alive that best that knewit. But I was impressed with our
little local ghost hunters. There aresome good moods. That's very interesting.
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It was a very interesting night.It can be a lot of fun.
It's it's it's it's exciting as I'msure what you do is very exciting,
and it can really be. Ilike to describe it as hours of total
boredom interrupted by moments of complete terror. Um. But it's not quite as
(36:38):
bad as when you're out in thewoods and you're hunting and you're looking for
something that could kill you. I'venever come across a ghost that could do
more than maybe scratch you or pushyou or something. But it is still
very exciting. I'm glad you hada good experience with that, because we
get a bad name ghost hunters.We get a bad name. Is I'm
sure you've heard some backlash and whatyou do as well. UM, so
(36:58):
when you meet, when you meetthe good ones, it's it's good to
hang onto those. I'm glad hehad a good experience. We had a
couple of ghost hunting experiences where wehad people coming out to kind of see
what we do, which is whatI thought when I first saw that strange
person on the episode of Mountain MonstersFollowing You, I thought it was like
a fan. It's like, Hey, I'm going to see what these guys
are doing, not realizing that they'vethey've inserted themselves into the investigation, whether
(37:22):
intentionally or unintentionally, and it changesthe dynamic. It can really be disruptive,
if not dangerous. So you know, we have a lot of I
believe they're getting ready to start theirsecond season. Ghost of Sylems on Investigation
of America. Boy, i'milla rememberthis off pop my head. I believe
April fifth, Sunday Night is aGhost of Silems will be on for a
(37:47):
second season, and it's a showthat I enjoy watching. Yeah, Chris
the leader for that for the TennesseeRath Chasers. He was also on Paranormal
Challenge, a show that I wason, So he's a He's a good
guy from everything I've heard. I'mglad those guys got a shot, and
I'm glad they got a show andthey're working on their second season. Because
(38:07):
it's tough back there. I mean, I'm so happy to hear you guys
got a second season, now athird season and ghost Asylum because people keep
saying, they keep telling me thatthis paranormal genre is dying, and I
don't believe it for a second.So I say, more power to them,
and good for you guys coming back, because I think it's great,
and I'm glad the whole original teamis still together because you couldn't. You
(38:35):
couldn't cross the part with a crowbar. What John give us a big
prounce on how the team came together. That'd be great. Ah, Okay,
Well, I know most of theguys I think will It says he
was a pop, I mean justsays he was a boy, a little
feller. He was raised up onSure Craig and here in West Virginia,
(38:58):
just down the road from me fromthe home place. So I've did Willy
forever, and I will tell youwhat. We don't have a construction crew,
or we don't have this, orwe don't have that. That's the
son of a gun. Will buildthose traps in a day or two with
while Bill's hill. He just heamazes me. It is a man when
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a lot of times he'll work wayinto the night when we're back at the
motel taking it easy, and Willieasleep a few hours in he's truck and
go back to work. He's anamazing person. So I've known Willy forever.
Huckle Berry was an operator on constructionand I was a bullermager, so
(39:44):
that's how we met. And Iknew when we figured out we needed security,
I knew exactly the man I wantedto go to was Huckleberry. Huckle
Berry has no fear, He's downto earth, He's rock. And I'll
tell you what, I don't haveto worry about a thing because I'll guarantee
(40:05):
you when I look over my shoulder, Huckleberry standing right there. And a
lot of times he don't have muchto say, but when he says something,
someone should listen. And Jeff gotinto us because of his research and
stuff he would bring to me tostart with, and that's when we originally
started the Ames team. That wasmyself, Jeff, and Willie, and
(40:30):
Jeff was on research and Willie wasscouting with me and we decided to build
traps. And then huncle Berry andBuck has been friends since Buck was just
young, so huckle Berry came tome and says, well, we got
this guy. He's only like atthat time, he was like twenty five
(40:52):
years old or twenty four years old, quite a few years ago. And
he said, he's quite the character. He sometimes he believes in the stuff
we do. I told him alittle bit because back then it was really
closed lift. We didn't tell anyonewhat we did. And so he introduced
(41:15):
me to Back and Buck came alongand he was he was Black was quite
the joy for the team. Ithink he was the one. He was
the one that brought us together andlaughter because Back always has something cute to
(41:40):
say about like uncle Berry. They'rekind of cut out the same Molden forty
or fifty years difference in age.He was, he kind of tied us
together. He's he's believed it ornot. It's a rookie. He's kind
of the glue. You understand whatI'm saying. Yes, we all like
for Bock because he's our kid.He's every one of our sons, you
(42:04):
know, so we all look outfor. Then we had a mutual friend
and will we need to help onthose traps and someone that can climb and
do the things that we do.A mutual friend told me about wild Bill,
and wild Bill come and talk tome. And wild Bill is exactly
wild Bill. He's exactly the wayhe is on television in real life.
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I guess we all are, butwild Bill is He's just he's fun to
be around and a boy. Hecan climb Kenny, he's scampers around.
And I actually have no idea howold he is, you know, I
really, honestly, I think Ithink Bill's about fifty one, fifty two,
(42:53):
fifty three in that range. Wow, and he's going to a fifties
Huckleberry Snackleberry's and he's at least septeenyears younger. May he's about fifty seven.
I think Jess Young thought he's aboutfifty. You know, it really
is about forty. So we havequite the age group there, you sure
(43:15):
do. It's really quite a quitea range. And but again, it
just feels very real, it feelsvery organic. And yeah, it makes
perfect sense that you guys would kindof rally around the youngest guy and the
one that who's newest to the tothe game, as it were, and
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feel protective of him. You're allhis uncles. I would imagine that kind
of thing or even or even fatherfigures. So I think that all comes
through really well. And as wewere saying at the beginning of the show,
what I keep hearing over and overagain, now that you guys have
been around for a while and peoplehave had a chance to kind of not
not just that initial reaction, notnot that shall first impression, but really
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have had a chance to see howyou guys operate and how you work and
how you think. And I justkeep hearing this over and over again.
Those guys are smart. You know, they're kind of playing up the appellation
aspect of it, or of theirpersonalities and appearance and whatnot. But you
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know, you guys have to bevery sharp to know what you're doing out
there and to be able to coordinateall this activity and the engineering aspect,
and then just purely the outdoor skills. I mean, the show is worth
watching just to pick up on theskills of the outdoors. You are true
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woodsman, and that's becoming more andmore a rare commodity these days. A
smart woodsman. Wow, that's apretty good combo. Yeah, well,
we know all the roots and curesand nuts and trees. And I told
them one time, I said,I said, I can name every tree
in the woods. You pointed outlineof what it is. You know,
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I know what it bears, Iknow what time of year it bears,
and I know I know wildlife.I think I think there'd be a great
crypto hunter, and I hate touse that crypto zoologist. Just a crypto
hunter, you have to be manyyears trained outdoorsmen. I started out hunting
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gray squirrels when I was just apop bow ten years old. I killed
my first waykail buck when I wasthirteen or fourteen in big waykail Dear.
You know this is a high arehard to kill, and I got seven
in a way tail Hall of Fame. Agree with a guy in in four
of the Bow so as I said, I'm as comfortable, I'm as comfortable
(46:00):
in a deep blackest darkness hollow atmidnight if those people are kicked back and
a lazy boy. You know onething I've always realized is, don't matter
what's out there, I'm the alphapredator. Well, I think, yeah,
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approach it that way. You gotto have that level of confidence.
You have to have that that mindsetthat you're not afraid that you can handle
whatever comes at you and I'm surehaving your own what amounts to a pack,
right if you want to talk inYeah, you have your own pack,
(46:42):
so that that makes a big difference. That's very supportive in all of
your years, in all of yourhunting, and then of course obviously especially
when you are specifically looking for cryptids, what would you say is the one
most startling, the one most amazingexperience, or at least the most unexpected.
(47:12):
Well, I think someone asked methis the other day about the episodes
and this, and the most unexpectedwas a sheep squatch. I mean he
kicked my butt. I mean hejust out straight out with me. He
pissed in my eyes. He hadbuttered us in the side then to brand
(47:35):
in the side beside at the endof the episode, right at the trap
when we come over that highwall,and then up in Preston County, West
Virginia, that fine snawygaster was justunbelievable. I mean that was just that
was something that that I couldn't figureout how to protect the team, I
mean, or I catch it ordo anything about it. I was just
(48:04):
I was actually overwhelmed with the snallygaster. It just if it taught me
completely off guard. It was waymore dangerous than I thought it was,
and a lot more scarier than Ithought it was. So he could and
I didn't think. I thought we'dget in thick timber would be okay.
It couldn't got through his trees,and I was wrong. He could just
give any place. But we haven'thad a lot of those close calls.
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And the guys say let's go,and we all get pumped up when we
get in that damn red trucket headdown the road because you know, wine,
we're old shish and this makes theadrenaline rush that they adrenaline flow is
unbelievable. I mean, it's justpeople say, the hair stand up on
(48:50):
back of your neck. It's likeI can feel my artery swelling. I
can feel me, I can feelme myself coming to me. Um.
It's just it's it's a fascinating feeling. It's a dangerous feeling, but it's
it's when it's all over and youbreak out in a cold sweat and you'd
(49:12):
say, damn, I'm alive.I mean, I'm living this. I
mean, this is this is whatI do. Yeah, I'm sure it
makes you feel young. It remindsyou that you're still young. It reminds
you. Yeah, yeah, evenwhen they have to drag me out of
the woods all beat down back,Well, you know, someone has to
(49:36):
do it. I'm interested in youroverall I'm all. I'm always asking people
this, and half the time itseems to annoy them. What is your
overall kind of concept? You yourmental concept of how all this fits together?
In other words, these creatures thatyou're looking for, whether they be
(49:59):
very as on Bigfoot or any ofthe others. The help the various hounds,
I'll give I'll I'll give you some. I'll give you some real good
stuff that that in the Bigfoot inAppolachia that we're going to uncover this season.
I have always thought, I havealways thought when when we an episode
(50:23):
one of the Midnight crystal Um,some of the guys are thinking that was
right at the end of the episode, some of the guys were thinking that
was a graveyard, and I thoughtthat was a rendezvous place. I thought
that was a place where the differentclans, and there are definitely different clans
from from North Carolina up into Tennesseeup to Kentucky, West Virginia, Virginia
(50:51):
clear into Pennsylvania will get this year, and of course or high. There's
different clans of Bigfoot. I believethey all general rated from that first midnight
Whistler clan in central Kentucky that maybethree thousand years ago emerged them the Mammoth
Caves and they've spread out from there. I don't know. If the clan
(51:15):
gets too big, young males willgrab a female, takeoff and settle in
an isolated place. A lot ofBigfoot researchers in their area need to research
in the in folklore as deep asthey can get into it. And you
(51:35):
will find out that before we werehere that the Indians knew about these big
foot creatures. Oh yeah, andyou lost it. I mean you'll also
find out as the season goes on. I really work hard or proving that
(51:57):
they're using our waterways in Appollack mostof us travel routes. Are they swimming
or are they walking? Or aredo they use some sort of floatation?
They work, They work the edgeof the waterways. If you if you
ever go through, if you willfollow the Colorado River on Interstates satellity in
(52:22):
the Rocky Mountains, the easiest routeto build a road is right along the
waterway. It's where the generations wehave been railway tracks in these mountains.
Excuse me, it's always right alongthe waterway. I'll tell you what you
(52:42):
can do. If he's a youngman. You can go through any large
city in the United States at threeo'clock in the morning and the edge of
that river and not be seen.Thing that makes good sense, Teresa,
(53:04):
we are approaching the end here.I'm sure you have more thoughts and or
questions I do, uh now inyour opinion, how many different types of
bigfoot creatures are there in the UnitedStates? And which are the which are
potentially the most dangerous or the scariestum because I find that fascinating because you
(53:27):
know, when I grew up,it was there was bigfoot, and you
know, and then there was theyeddi and that was it. But there's
all these different types and different uhgenres of them. I don't know how
to explain it. But what breakit down for me as best you can?
And how many there are and whatare Yeah, Teresa, even in
Appalachia, from Pennsylvania down to theCarolinas, there's different plans and they're very
(53:53):
similar in size and shape. Maybethey hair color will be a little different
as they get older. Okay,And a big fiddler change size from in
the following year. He might weigheight hundred pounds in the spring of the
year. When he comes out ofthe winter, he may weigh five hundred
(54:13):
pounds because this food store setting verygood. So they change size and shape,
not in height, but they changesize and shape their own self.
But here's another thing. Different clanshave different vocal communications. As the midnight
whistler they're in eastern Kentucky, hewould have whistled more than he made those
(54:35):
grunts, those growling sounds, andthose tree knock sounds. So the Yahoo
from Nicholas County, West Virginia,he has that distinct Yahoo yelled. So
they are exactly they're virtually exactly saying. It's like it's like going to southwestern
West Virginia. Then in Boone Countyand downing deep in the mountains, you
(55:00):
move right straight across the state toLewisburg, and the people's completely different.
I mean, these are really countrypeople in Boone County. Great people have
hunted different years, bear hunted.You go over to Lewisburg and they're more
Virginia. Say the different clans areexactly the same way. They're all the
(55:22):
same, but they're different too.What are the most aggressive ones or the
midnight cluster? I believe in instrinKentucky. So what do we have to
worry about here in Ohio besides theOhio grass Matter. There any other clans
(55:44):
that you know about in our area. I rave there's a small clan in
southeastern high But the Grassman is notedto being the largest of all the big
foots in Appalachia. We could getup eleven hundred pounds and ten foot tall.
(56:04):
He's huge, and I believe it'sjust because his food source is so
much better. Wow, ten foottall, I mean that is kind of
when you really think about that tenfoot tall. I think a seven foot
tall person is a monster. Thinkoff a ten foot tall big foot running
(56:28):
into in the woods. That wouldbe terrifying. It's amazing how they kept
out of sight for as long asthey have. I believe. I believe
if you put me into an isolatedplace and I was a few years younger
where I would have no problem survivingin West Virginia, that I would never
(56:50):
be seen. If I didn't wantto be there, you have to realize
that too. They have far moreintelligence and a normal wild creature, they
have the ability to think, retainmemory. Their intelligence level is probably it's
(57:15):
not as good as ours, butit's it's it's pushing it. What do
you think Bigfoot is? What areyour thoughts and what it is? Biologically?
I think he's a breed of hisown I mean he's not an ape's
not a human. He's absolutely aIf you dig into folklore in the in
(57:37):
folklore and everything and do the research, I think he's absolutely his own being.
How many would you guess there are, saying in Appalachia just for example,
(58:00):
I'd say someplace between one hundred andtwo hundred. Wow, So that
really is a small population that wouldcertainly go a long way to explaining why
they're not found. Plus, they'reobvious abilities, and we've seen that demonstrated.
We've seen various teams in different shows, and I've read articles where people
(58:22):
have come up very very close,you know, and sprung upon people and
they were never seen. You know, if you're not looking for them,
if you don't hear them, ifyou don't smell them, then obviously they
have the ability to to stay hidden. If there's only one hundred to two
(58:42):
hundred of them over all those whathundreds of thousands of acres millions of acres.
I guess they just they don't wantto be seen. That's that's one
of their main objectives. Every mostevery time, it's not a Bigfoot research
team that gets the picture of me. It's up the Mountain Monster's team gets
(59:06):
the picture. Every it's a completelyinnocent civilian with a cell phone that gets
the picture. So that picture isa picture of accident. That's an accident
picture. It just happened to bein the right place at the right time.
(59:27):
Well, that seems to be theway it works with ghosts too.
You know, it's often people whoaren't particularly looking for them who seem to
run into them. And I'm notsure. I'm not sure the ultimate cause
of that. The perversity of theuniverse, you know, it's something the
law of unintended consequences. I'm notsure. All right, Well, we
(59:52):
have actually unbelievably run out of time, Teresa, any final thoughts. I
just wish you the best of luckfor the rest of the season, happy
hunting, and stay safe out there. And I can't thank you enough for
coming back on the show. It'salways a pleasure. And next time you
come to Ohio, have you gotto give us a call. I'll take
(01:00:14):
you ghost hunting. If you takeme big footing the high I don't want
to. We'll be in a highmy first, second, and third Creature
Weekend at Salt Fork State Park inCambridge high And make sure you're tuning in
this coming Saturday night for the yanyepisode at ten nine Central on Destination America.
(01:00:42):
Very good. You're like a professionalTV guy now, I don't even
have to say that. There yougo. You did it for me.
All right, Well, we'd betterease out here real quickly. We're running
over. Thank you so much,Trapper John Tye, leader of the Ames
team, Stars of Mountain Monsters,Destination America's wildly popular show, and as
(01:01:07):
John said, it's on Saturday nightsten nine Central, and this season they
are specifically focused on Bigfoot. Thankyou so much, John. Always a
pleasure, really enjoyed it. Thankyou to all listeners. It's America's most
taunted. We'll be back live nextMonday at eight pm Eastern, seven Central.
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Good night, everybody,
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