October 3, 2024 • 51 mins
Prepare to have your understanding of the future challenged as Patrick Wood joins us to explore the complex tapestry of technology, global power, and biblical prophecy. Could artificial general intelligence be the key to a new era of societal control by 2027?
We question the boundaries of human intelligence and the risks of a global control grid while contemplating how these technological advancements might fulfill ancient prophecies. From the great reset to transhumanism, we unravel the United Nations' ambitious vision for global governance and its connection to prophecy.
Tom Hughes and Patrick Wood examine the evolution of scientism into transhumanism, examining its quasi-religious pursuit of immortality. With insights from historical figures like C.S. Lewis and H.G. Wells, we dissect the rise of science as a new belief system and its implications for control.
The discussion highlights artificial intelligence's role in subtle social engineering, transforming thought processes undetectably akin to historical mind control experiments. Drawing parallels with DARPA's MKUltra, we address how AI quietly reshapes public perception and behavior.
Delving into the global power dynamics, we analyze the influence of central banks and the push towards a digital world order. Patrick provides his perspective on central bank digital currencies and the impact of ESG scores, positioning them within a prophetic framework.
We consider the potential for a global leader's emergence, aligning with biblical narratives of the end times. Our episode concludes with an appeal for truth-sharing, promoting informed discourse, and underscoring Jerusalem's critical spiritual and geopolitical role. Join us as we unpack these existential themes, offering insights and encouragement to stay engaged with these pivotal global issues.
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Tom Hughes (00:55):
The Thank you.
Thank you everybody for joiningus at Hope for Our Times.
Obviously, we know what's goingon in Israel.
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We're all being updated.
We're keeping people updatedUnbelievable.
We're reminded to pray for thepeace of Jerusalem.
We know Israel will alwaysexist.
So will the Jews, so willJerusalem, although many powers
and many people don't want thatto happen.
We know God has said it will.
But at the same time, suchunbelievable things are taking
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place.
People's lives are beingdestroyed, war is taking place,
but with that, we're going totake a break from Israel right
now.
I have a special guest on todayjoining me because, while all
that's going on with Ukraine,all that's going on with Israel
and Iran guess what?
Our lives are in danger becauseof this globalist machine that
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is moving forward and we'regoing to be talking about that
right now.
My guest today is Patrick Wood.
Thank you, patrick, for joiningme again.
Patrick Wood (02:09):
My pleasure, tom.
These are such important topicsand you know, everywhere we
look today, we see this waragainst humanity closing in on
us.
It's everywhere.
That's what we addressed twoweeks ago, or two Saturdays ago
in our OmniWar conference, asymposium that we did on well, I
(02:32):
guess we did it on World ViewWeekend, on CHD Children's
Health Defense and also ontechnocracynews and also on
technocracynews.
But this symposium will spreadall over the world talking about
this concept of OmniWare.
It's everywhere at this point,coming at us at every
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conceivable juncture of life forus.
Tom Hughes (03:00):
It's really unbelievable.
All the different tentacles, Iguess you could say, and when we
look at technology.
Patrick, I have a lot ofquestions to ask you, but I'm
just going to begin here.
So I just read that artificialgeneral intelligence.
It looks like it's going to behere by 2027.
(03:24):
I'm going to ask you this whyis that significant to us?
Why should we be concerned, orshould we be concerned?
What is artificial generalintelligence as opposed to
artificial intelligence that wehear, and can you fill us in?
Patrick Wood (03:42):
Well, you bet.
Fill us in.
Well, you bet.
Let me back up just a secondand say there's no such thing as
artificial intelligence.
For one thing, we use that term.
Intelligence is something thatGod gave to people humans.
It's not meant for machines,period.
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This is a unique human quality.
This part of being human ispart of humanness.
So if they, if somebody says,well, it's artificial
intelligence, it doesn't doesn'tcompute, it just doesn't
compute.
Nevertheless, it's very powerfuland if you look at it as like
an expert system that cananalyze data, make a response to
that data and then issuecommands back to whatever the
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data has been collected on, youcan see how it could be used for
control.
That's the whole idea of AI iscontrol.
It's not for the pure interestof humanity.
It's not for you to do a searchon Google or whatever and
figure out what you want to getin text form.
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It's not for you to write awhite paper or a term paper or
et cetera.
Right, it's about control.
All these data centers that arebeing built around the country
at this point, all of thesecollectively probably have as
much computing power as all ofthe computers behind it before
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it in history.
And now they're telling us oh,this is just to answer a few
simple questions for you onGoogle.
No, I'm sorry, this is.
This is setting up a controlgrid that can basically control
everything in society worldwide,but at least in our country,
and this whole thing is targetedagainst us, to control us in
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every phase of our life.
So when we talk about artificialgeneral intelligence, in any
case that's a new, that will bea new level of intelligence, but
basically the idea is, when youget PhD level intelligence in a
narrow field like chemistry,biology etc.
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The idea about generalintelligence is it'll combine
all those things at one time andit will give you a general
discipline across all theseplatforms be able to talk about
mathematics and chemistry andphysics all at the same time.
And you know they what they're.
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What they're thinking is well,what that means for us
individually.
Who cares?
I don't want to talk aboutphysics anyway, much less
quantum physics versus biologyversus whatever mathematics.
I don't care about that stuff.
I'm sure nobody else in ouraudience cares about it either.
(06:56):
But when you consider that abody of knowledge could be
launched at that point thatcontains all of the disciplines
of the scientific world, and atleast all the literature as well
, and from the civic world.
You have an entity that willappear to be intelligent.
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There will be no wisdom.
There will be no well, I'll saywisdom.
There will be no application ofwisdom to anything.
There will be no mercy.
Of course that's a humanquality as well, or God quality.
There's going to be no grace init If a science says that's
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what you do, whatever, likeFauci said right, you have to
obey the science, and they havea science.
Tom Hughes (07:55):
It's fascinating.
So I'm looking at this book.
You have a chapter on hereConvergence Science or Scientism
chapter on here, convergenceScience or Scientism where I'm
pretty sure you deal with that.
Technocracy, restructuringcivilization, technocracy then
and now, the genesis oftranshumanism, the great reset,
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the control grid, science ofsocial engineering.
You answer the question who'sdriving this train?
You talked about the one worldreligion.
I mean, these are all topicsthat are huge in and of
themselves and I want to getinto them in just a minute.
Then I want to go here beforewe're done too.
(08:40):
The UN's this pact for thefuture.
It's global control.
You've been talking about thiscontrol that's coming, and
that's what this whole thing isall about.
Let me ask you this then we'regoing to get into some specifics
but how do you see the mergingof global governance and
technology, including AI,aligning with biblical
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prophecies?
Patrick Wood (09:06):
I think this is where we came in in the last
movie actually, where we weretalking about how the Antichrist
would be preparing for thetribulation period, and we know
this makes sense.
He's not going to take any ofthat seven-year period to
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prepare a system that he's goingto control in the end.
That doesn't make any sense tome anyway I think probably to
other people as well that'sbeing prepared right now, as we
speak.
That's what all this businessabout AI is.
I think that's what all thisbusiness about AI is.
I think it's about all theother narratives that have been
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floated on sustainabledevelopment and these 17
sustainable development goalsand all this nonsense about
climate change and cows thatflatulate and the reduction of
food around the world.
All this stuff is just anexpression of technocracy going
(10:15):
forward, and you know it's kindof hard to express it, but I
have to say this all dates backto a religion, a religious
proposition that was made inlike somewhere around 1805 by a
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French philosopher by the nameof Henri de Saint-Simon Simone,
who postulated that a scientistthis was his definition a
scientist, my dear friends is aman who foresees, tells the
future.
In other words, it's becausescience provides the means to
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predict that it is useful andthat scientists are superior to
all other men.
At that point he wanted toreform or change Catholicism
into being a religion ofscientists or science that would
be administrated not byreligious priests like before,
but by scientific priests,engineers and scientists and
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technicians, engineers andscientists and technicians.
And this was kind ofpreposterous at that point for
sure.
But when you get into the 1900sand you see this expressed, for
instance, with the technocracymovement, then you have all
people, for instance, writingabout scientism all of a sudden,
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like people like CS Lewis.
He splayed it back in that day,just, you know, critiqued it to
death and it needed to be, butit was declared a religion along
the way and it was flat out areligion.
So you had other people like FAhyatt.
(12:05):
Also, rock wrote about thescientism.
There were many others that didas well.
Today you ask anybody on thestreet what's scientism?
They don't have a clue.
Oh, didn't you read the bookfrom you know, like from c l c s
lewis along the way?
No, don't have a clue.
Um.
But this is now morphed intothis whole business of
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transhumanism, which is decided,decidedly religious because it
it's seeing uh, seeks to umescape death.
Death is, uh, declared adisease.
Now we we're in the business of, you know, curing diseases, so
surely we can cure death.
No, they're not going to do it,but you know, this is where
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this religion has come broughtus to.
So anyway, I'm not sure if I'mrambling here, but no, you're
not rambling.
Tom Hughes (13:03):
Hg Wells was one of these big promoters of that.
Amongst many other names thatwould be commonly known to
people, it was Fauci who saidsomething about.
When you're questioning me,you're questioning science, and
then during the whole last fiveyears, science was elevated to a
place of being God Really inthe minds of these people.
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They want scientists to run thecountry and you have science
coming in different forms tryingto run everything, because
these people think that theyknow better and it's making
decisions.
I think it was HG Wells thatthis world needs to be run by
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people who are unemotionallyinvolved, as he's describing and
this describes science,scientism unemotionally involved
.
You look at the facts.
Therefore, we eliminate 7.5billion people from the planet
or whatever because they're notneeded.
25 billion people from theplanet or whatever, because
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they're not needed.
And when you have science hasbecome God, well then you enter
in a Yuval.
Noah Harari or all the rest, bythe way, everybody just real
quick for you.
Jan Markell is going to join meon Monday.
This coming Monday, october 7th, is the one-year memorial of
the attack against Israel.
She's going to join me onMonday.
Tuesday Jack Hibbs is going tobe joining me right here at Hope
(14:30):
for Our Times and then also, ifyou can, in Temecula on October
9th, southern California, 412Church in Temecula, sunday night
, 5 pm.
Naftali Anaya Naftali, is goingto be joining me from Israel
October 13th Sunday night.
So, if you can, 412 Church,temecula, it's going to be a
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great time.
So mark your calendars for allof those things.
Okay, let me ask you this youhave in here the science of
social engineering.
Is just one of your chaptersthat you have.
I mean, I can look at thatsocial engineering and for me,
you definitely see it.
I think that's what we seegoing on with the kids, but
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there's engenderism and allthese other things.
But fill us in a little bitmore besides what the public
would know.
If we're paying attention, wecan see social engineering, but
there's more to us that I thinkwe're not even aware of and it's
been going on for a long time.
Patrick Wood (15:32):
The reason that the early technocrats had an
issue with people was that theycouldn't make people do what
they wanted them to do.
For instance, they could buildfactories, they could build
systems of things, but it alldepended on people to run it.
Now a factory can be engineeredwith sensors and whatever
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things that figure out what'sgoing wrong with it.
You can't do that with people,so you have to have people to
run the factories and run thesociety.
But they couldn't control thepeople in the same way that can
they control the machine.
So this business of science, uh, the science of social
engineering, this this becamethe their main problem that they
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had to solve in order to getpeople to to like herding cats
right, to get them to to do whatthey wanted them to do.
So when they led with thisdefinition of technocracy in
like 1937, that they said"'Technocracy is the science of
social engineering', "'it is',they said, "'the science of
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social engineering'".
And then they go on to talkabout the scientific operation
of the entire social mechanismthat produced and distributes
goods and services for everybody, all of us.
We don't produce it, they do.
They give us our k-rations, Isuppose.
But they wanted to lead firstwith this business of the
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science of social engineering.
That's an oxymoron in itself ina sense, because it's not a
science in that sense it's adark art, is what it is.
But when we see today, all ofthe stuff going on with
propaganda in the world today,it's been weaponized against the
minds of billions of peoplearound the world.
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When we see mind controlexperiments, friends, for
instance, um, what uh darpa didoriginally with um uh, the a, m
mk ultras experiments, that was,that was a real thing.
People have exaggeratedprobably, but is it that was a
real thing at that point?
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Exaggerated probably, but thatwas a real thing at that point.
And so today, the main weaponthat's being leveled against us
is AI.
Ai is the consummate way toexercise the so-called science
of social engineering, becauseyou can do it in a way that
people can't detect what's goingon.
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They don't know that they'rebeing engineered.
And further, it's not justtelling them what to say or what
to think, necessarily, but itwants to change how they think
so that they don't have to beprompted to think of a certain
thing.
They will come to thatconclusion on their own.
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This is a new level that we'venever seen before on their own.
This is a new level that we'venever seen before.
You know, you can force somebodylike Winston in 1984, he had to
say, well, two plus two is five, and he finally said it, but he
didn't think it, you know.
So you can force people to saysomething under the breath or
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say something else, maybe.
But now, with socialengineering at this level,
people will not know thatthey're being engineered and
they won't see that shift intheir thinking.
Where they're now, all of asudden, they're saying things
that they never would have saida year ago or two years ago.
Tom Hughes (19:07):
Very dangerous stuff .
Yeah, I have a chapter in mybook called a section in my book
called the Manchurian Children,taken from the movie and novel
the Manchurian Candidate, whichis that's really what it was is
social engineering within thisChinese camp of prisoners that
were able to be manipulated andto do things that they wouldn't
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have done.
To believe things happen thatnever happened, to not believe
things that actually did happen.
And but we see it.
It appears to me this isexactly what's going on with the
schools.
I believe this is going on withall of the climate talk.
Yes, you can always say I mean,you can always say climate's
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changing because it's probablyhotter today in Phoenix than it
was on a previous what Octoberday?
Sometime in the past.
So climate all has changed, butsummers are hot, winters are
cold.
This is just the way it is.
But when you take a group ofpeople, patrick and it seems to
me it works like this and allyou tell them since they were
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born.
So just go back 20 years or 30years.
If you're 30 years old,probably the only thing you've
ever heard is climate change andglobal warming and with no
frame of reference.
Well, wait a minute.
This is the way it always is.
If you're older, you know it'salways this, you know it's
always 115 degrees of a phoenixin the summer.
Right, I mean, this is it.
But now they say it's thehottest ever.
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It's never been this way andthat's all they've ever heard.
Hence, that's part of thesocial engineering too, it would
seem to me.
And in the Clubber-Ohms book in1991, where they said hey, we
can manipulate behaviors andthoughts using pollution, and we
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can make man the enemy bysaying it's your fault.
Therefore, we change behavior.
So this is all part of it.
Patrick Wood (21:06):
It really is remember the, the movie, the
original movie called thegaslight.
Uh, yeah, I 1938 I think it was.
Tom Hughes (21:15):
Yeah, I think it was 38 somewhere back then.
Patrick Wood (21:18):
Um, that was a process where this guy, a
husband, uh drove his wifeinsane by gaslighting her that
that's where that term comesfrom on saying that whatever she
was seeing she didn't see.
And over time, this was aprocess that built up, starting
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with one small thing and thensomething else, something else,
something else.
Finally, she just loses hermind when we see all of this
gaslighting stuff being thrownat society about global warming
for decades now, about changingthe atmosphere, changing the
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genetic structure of things,whatever, oh, it's all good for
you, we're going to save theplanet.
All these things have beenbasically a gaslighting
operation.
At the beginning of it, nobodyreally saw what was going on,
but as it builds on itself, now,all of a sudden, people have
fallen into outright deceptionand they will never probably get
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out.
It's going to be really hardfor a lot of people to get out
of this, because that's the waygaslighting works.
So today we have all thesethings around us, the world.
They're telling us no, no,whatever you see, whatever, you
don't trust your eyes.
You just, you know, look at,look at something else, but you
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can't trust your eyes.
Now, you can't trust your ears.
You can't trust your ears.
You can't trust your senses.
Your mind can conceive ofwhat's true.
At that point, you're going tobe in a psychotic state, having
been separated from reality.
This is the devil's plan fromthe get-go.
It took a long time, but nowwe're here.
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Basically.
Tom Hughes (23:09):
Now we're here mass chaos, mass confusion.
When we look at everythinggoing on in Israel, it's like
how do you explain all of these?
Things are all coming to a headat the same time.
Thinking about this gaslighting, I'm reading this report the
other day that says children arebeing told at it's a particular
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school district, can't rememberwhich one that asking questions
is a form of disinformation andit was.
John Kerry, who was at theWorld Economic Forum, says we
need to secure the votes becausethen we can make sure that we
control the information.
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I mean, it was obvious what hewas saying.
So we can go after people likeyou and me, therefore, in
controlling this.
So I mean, you look?
So the gaslighting involveswe're all liars, you know
thinking of that novel and thebook Gaslighting Us.
You're told we know what's true, but everybody's told well,
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that's not true.
Well, eat, a man knows true.
And then you it does.
It drives people crazy and thentheir thinking totally, totally
shifts in that.
Let me ask you this because Iwant to get into this global
pact for the future and it'svery concerning because
everybody's being gaslit.
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We have the social engineeringthat's taking place Again.
It's been going on a long timebut we've like arrived at this
head.
It's like here, we can see it.
We're shouting at people, we'reclaimed to be full of lies and
disinformation, we need to beshut up, and all that.
So you have the global pact forthe future.
(24:54):
I'm reading it.
It does not look good, but yetit looks so biblical at the same
time, in the sense of what theBible warns us about what is
coming.
Can you explain to our viewerswhat is the global pact for the
Future?
It was at the UN meeting, andare all nations going to be
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subject to it?
What's the intent?
And then I'll ask you a fewmore questions after that.
Patrick Wood (25:22):
Yeah, this business with the Pact for the
Future.
It contains three separateelements.
The first was the PAC itself.
Then there was an addendum thatcalled it the Digital PAC for
the Future.
I think that's where most ofthe meat lies here, and the
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reason I say that is becausethis push for a digital ID
worldwide, for every human onearth, if they can ever achieve
this truly.
And they call that a legalidentity, by the way, you can
say you.
If somebody has your socialsecurity number, they can say
you're you, but they can't proveit right.
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If somebody hacks your identity, they really don't know.
Is it really Tom Hughes or PatWood?
A legal identity goes beyondthat to prove well, prove
positive that it's you sittingon the other side of the
keyboard personally.
And if they can do that, theycan track everything that is
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about you in the, in theuniverse, every transaction,
everything, every web page yougo to, every emotion you emote,
um.
So the the idea here is to geteverybody on board now to create
this new digital id.
I know I don't know exactly howthey're going to do it at this
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point, but that's what they wantto do In the meantime.
The whole body of the PAC forthe future.
If you read all of the elementsof it, you kind of come away
thinking what the heck are theytalking about?
It's a lot of gobbledygook andum.
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Nevertheless, their, theirintent was to frame, to reframe
the united nations into aversion 2.0, in other words, to
supercharge the effort of thisunited nations, what it was
already supercharged, I'm sure,before, but now they want to be
on steroids, and so they're kindof calling it version 2.0 of
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the United Nations to get allthe nations of the world to
accelerate their efforts to getthe 17 Sustainable Development
Goals in place by 2030.
Development goals in place by2030.
Those goals were established,by the way, at the 2030 agenda
meeting in 2015.
So here we are now 2004 or 2014, 24.
(28:02):
Um, they only have six yearsleft to meet this goal.
That I don't know why that's2030 is really the most
significant goal for them.
We'll find out, I expect.
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Maybe that's what the devil'sexpecting.
Where the tribulation willstart, who knows?
But they're really intent oncompressing the time frame now
between now and 2030.
That's only six years, just avery short period of time.
Tom Hughes (28:36):
It is.
I think it began with Agenda 21.
And that was, wasn't that likein the 1993 or something like
that in Rio de Janeiro, 1992.
1992.
Okay, and then you have thatAgenda 21 for the 21st century.
2015 comes along.
Well, let's narrow, let's giveus a target, and my guess is
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they've got the target.
Whether or not it's the devilin their head, they have.
They do have a target.
It was in 2015 also that thePope announced by 2030, you'll
own nothing and be happy.
We didn't start hearing thatcomment until probably a year or
two ago, except for us who werepaying attention.
It was 2015 when he said it.
But we look at this, everythingis zeroing that way.
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Let me ask you this when we seeus, if you're a believer in the
Lord Jesus Christ, how much ofthis is a concern for us and
should it be?
Actually, I do think it shouldbe, but I'd like to know your
thoughts on it and also, alongthese same lines, just for
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and a couple more things andthen we'll get on some more with
Pat.
But again, jan Markell will bewith me on Monday, october 7th,
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memorial of the October 7thInvasion of Israel last year.
Jack Hibbs, tuesday, october8th, naftali, october 13th, 412
Church in Temecula and 5 o'clockpm.
Make sure you join us.
Naftali, 412 Church in Temecula, 5 pm.
It will be fantastic.
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He's coming all the way fromIsrael Be half of Netanyahu, by
the way but it's going to be agreat evening.
If you want to do somethingreally cool, also you can join
me, for I have a foot check thisout, patrick.
I have a Footsteps of Paul tripcoming up.
We go to Ephesus, which is offthe charts.
Patmos, of course, this is ifwe're not raptured and we're
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still allowed to travel, butPatmos where John received the
words for the book of Revelation, where he wrote those words
down.
We're going to Crete.
We think of Paul and Timothy.
We have a couple of littlevacation times in Mykonos and
Santorini.
We'll be in Athens, corinththink of Paul writing first and
second Corinthians.
We think we're going to be alsoMars Hill, where we have the
words of Acts, chapter 17.
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It's going to be a fantastictrip.
If you want to go, that's comingup in April of 2025.
Lord willing, lord willing,just put it out there for you if
you want to join us and then,if we have an extension to Rome,
if you want to do the extensiontoo.
But it'd be a great trip.
Anyways, that's a lot out there, but I'm looking going.
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Man, I need to have a littlebit of joy in the time that we
have left, and doing a trip likethat is great.
You get so much biblicalhistory too.
But, patrick, as we see thesethings just culminating, the
significant to us is if you're abeliever in Christ.
When we look at this globalpact, isn't Australia already
kind of testing the grounds withthis?
(31:58):
Say it again Australia,australia, yeah, oh boy.
It seems to me they're like aguinea pig for these things.
Patrick Wood (32:10):
Yeah, they't they.
It seems to me they're like aguinea pig for these things.
Yeah, they really have been,and out of sight, out of mind, I
guess for us up here they'refar, far away.
But yes, australia has been.
It used to be really thebastion of freedom in the world
Not anymore.
And they've been knuckled down,uh, and oppressed, uh.
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It's just absolutely amazing,but the same things happen in
the uk as well.
You know, the uk is just goneover the edge right now, um,
over the top, with, for instance, uh, jailing people for just
saying something on a streetthat they don't like, or posting
an innocuous social media post,and people are getting hard
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prison time for it.
We've never seen anything likethis before in the history of
the world, honestly.
But Australia is following inthat footstep, but Australia is
falling in that footstep.
Tom Hughes (33:11):
So I look at this and if we look at the last five
years, canada has been hit bythese same things.
It's the Western world that hasreally come under this weird
social engineering, all thistech-driven.
Granted, we already knowthere's a social credit system
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in China, and so forth.
I remember saying years ago thesocial credit system in China
will be exported and otherleaders in other parts of the
world will import that and theywill perfect it with technology.
Well, here we are, because itreally is.
China's is kind of archaic incomparison to what we are facing
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.
And I have a theory for whythings are going so fast in the
Western world.
What you mentioned in the UK,why we have like Australia's
already in it.
Canada is experiencing allkinds of things.
Obviously, we can see thefreight train coming here in the
US too, but I believe it'sbecause the Antichrist rises out
of the West, and so the West isbeing prepared with the.
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You know, people can't eventhink straight anymore.
They don't know what truth is.
You can present people facts,they can't receive facts.
They'll believe the lies.
And I think, as a what's whyit's happening in the West, I
believe, is because the West isbeing prepared for that leader
to come out of it?
Have you ever thought of that?
Patrick Wood (34:38):
I have, and I I generally agree with you about
that.
However, I want to point outthat China in particular, has
been a technocracy from at least1976, when they came back on
the world stage.
I've had several articles alongthe way, and I just have one
(34:58):
currently on technocracynewscalled Proof that china has been
a technocracy since 1976.
Um, when china came on thescene uh, back then out of the
dark ages, literally out theywere worse than north korea.
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At that point they had noeconomic system.
People were starving, they,they were oppressed.
It was just a horriblesituation.
When Chairman Deng came to theUnited States to talk with
Brzezinski and Kissinger aboutcoming back into the fold, if
you will, the economic fold ofthe world, they didn't teach
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them about capitalism or aboutfree market economics.
They talked to them abouttechnocracy.
This has been acknowledged nowin scholarly reports over the
years the one I just postedright here that's one of them
that, based on the context ofour invention of technocracy in
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the 1930s, they adopted thismodel for governing their
economic system and forengineering their economic
system, and they've beenspreading this around the world
to anybody who would take it,for instance, in South America,
africa, you name it even inEurope and even back to us, if
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you can imagine that They've sospread this virus around the
world that everybody at thispoint is just accepting it like
well, we don't know where itcame from, but they look at
China as a communistdictatorship.
It's not anymore.
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That's one of the reasons I'mhopping down about this is
because if we don't recognizeChina for what it is, how can we
ever defeat it?
You can't do that.
If you're going to fightcommunism, you're going to be
boxing as shadows at that point.
All that to say, china has beenthe engine of technocracy
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around the world.
We were part of the start of it.
Our Silicon Valley, big techcompanies have exacerbated it,
for sure, it for sure.
(37:32):
But we see in the West, likeyou say, probably this is where
the anti-crisis is going to comeout of.
But I wouldn't be totally sure,but it seems that way at this
point.
Tom Hughes (37:41):
If people want to follow you.
You're on Substack, so all ofyour articles are there.
People can subscribe, they canread, so how would they find you
, patrick Well?
Patrick Wood (37:52):
technocracynews is .
That's the heartbeat of my workright now.
Tom Hughes (37:58):
So you guys all see it there.
You can see it there in thecredits and also in the
description, but I wouldencourage you to subscribe to
Substack Patrick on this also.
You have who's driving thistrain?
In a one world religion emergestwo different chapters.
You look at who's driving thetrain.
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There's all different names.
We have different nations.
Klaus Schwab said regardingChina, he seems to love what
China was doing.
That's the way we all need tooperate the UN.
We can see these things.
So are there certain peoplethat are behind it?
Well, obviously there are, butI mean who?
Patrick Wood (38:40):
do you see, right now?
In my opinion strongly held bythe way the driving force for
this whole thing is the systemof central banks around the
world, and particularly the Bankfor International Settlements.
That's the central bank of thecentral banks right of the
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central banks right.
It's based in Basel,switzerland, and basically it
issues all the monetary policy,et cetera, for all the central
banks around the world,including China, include Israel,
germany.
All these nations have acentral bank.
We have one called the FederalReserve.
These are all private banks,however, they're not owned by
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the national governments.
These are all private banks,however, they're not owned by
the national governments.
These are private banks andwhat we see is the ways that.
I can say that, because I madea study at the results in that
chapter in my book, showing thatthe central banks are the ones
basically issuing the policiesdriving the world right now.
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So when you look at centralbank digital currencies, for
instance, and everybody seesthat, oh, this is not going to
end well, we don't want them,knowing everything that we do,
everything we spend, et cetera,the major overarching goal that
the global elite has at thispoint is to capture the whole
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system in this digital world,and it requires a digital ID as
well.
Tom Hughes (40:17):
Very fascinating.
You look at a company like acorporation like BlackRock, a
corporation like BlackRock.
These things are all tied intogether, oh yes.
And then you have the ESGscores.
You have the SDG, whicheverybody's going to be forced
to comply.
You know, you read the 17 SDGgoals.
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They all sound so nice.
Well, let's get rid of allpoverty.
I mean really.
Well, I mean, we startedlooking at them.
They sound nice but actuallythey're extremely destructive
and crushing to the masses.
The only way they can the DEIscores, whatever it is the only
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way they can do this is reallyto crush the people and to
control them.
Patrick, when I look at that andI see Book of Revelation, you
see the riders on the whitehorse, the red horse, the black
horse and the pale horse.
I look at the black horse, thethird horse of the Book of
Revelation a day's wage for aloaf of bread.
Don't harm the oil or the wine.
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What it implies to me is thatyou have a group of people at
the top.
They're calling all the shots.
Don't harm the oil or the wine.
The elite class and everybodyelse is crushed by the system
that they're building, and it isan economic system meant to be
collapsed, it looks like, inorder to bring about the system
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that they want.
Do you read it that way or doyou see some more things in
there?
Patrick Wood (41:50):
No, I do.
I was going to read just a clipfor you here.
See if I can get up on mycomputer here.
Okay, this is really telling.
There was a global scholar bythe name of Bragg Kana.
He's rated as one of the 75most influential people in the
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21st century.
The guy is young, a ticklet.
People love him around theworld Globalists do and he wrote
this book called Connectography, basically modeling the global
city, how everything isconnecting, and he wrote this in
the beginning of his book.
(42:37):
Listen to the context of this.
This is a direct quote.
We're building this globalsociety without a global leader.
That's the first point.
Global order is no longersomething that can be dictated
or controlled from the top down.
Globalization is itself theorder.
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You just have to think.
This was stunning to me.
Wow, this guy's not on our side, right?
But he said we're building thisglobal society without a global
leader.
Who's going to fill that roleone day?
We know who it is.
Wow, we know who it is.
You know this whole system istailor-made for the Antichrist,
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and he's the one obviouslybehind it in the first place,
because he's the God of thisworld.
He can do those sort of things,wow, but make no mistake about
it.
When it's finally matured, theLord, god in heaven, will say
that's it.
The church will be out of here,and then the fun starts for
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them, for the rest of the world.
Tom Hughes (43:52):
That is absolutely intriguing to me.
So people want the.
You write about all thesethings every day, like on
Substack, so you can subscribeto Patrick's Substack again.
Just go there.
You can see the links.
You see it in his name here.
You see it in the description.
You can click on it.
(44:12):
You can go there and Iencourage you to do it.
I mean to get that information.
That's incredible.
I mean to put it that way andthat's so true.
We know it's so true.
We look and go, hey, they'regoing to build the system, the
10 kings, and then they're goingto find that man and there he
is.
That's right.
Patrick Wood (44:33):
It's not Klaus Schwab, it's not Harari, it's
not anybody else, not Biden,whatever right, whoever this
person is, they're anticipatingat some point.
Just kind of read that in astatement.
They're anticipating somedaythere might be somebody who can
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handle this system and take itover.
Tom Hughes (45:00):
They're waiting for their Messiah.
That's right.
We know it's going to be thefalse Messiah, but they're going
to think he has arrived.
You said a long time ago yousaid and I've used it like a
million times since because it'sso true the Antichrist isn't
going to waste any time buildingthe infrastructure.
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It has to be built Biblically.
It's the only thing that makessense.
What you just read totally fitsthat and that's why we're
seeing all these things happen.
Now the system has to be inplace, including the psyche of
the people even has to be ready.
So the social engineering andthe technical things, the UN
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pact for the future, all thesedifferent dynamics all coming
about.
Technology has to be where itis Israel, obviously the
attention is zeroing in onIsrael as a nation.
So many things happening thatit's not coincidental, by the
way, everybody.
(46:04):
Just want to remind you againJan Markell will be joining me
on Monday.
Jack Hibbs will be joining meon Tuesday.
Nafta Lee is going to bejoining me on at 412 Church in
Temecula on October 13th, sundaynight, 5 pm.
Okay, patrick, you said a lotthere.
By the way, these things are inPatrick's book at the Hope for
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a Time store if you want tocheck them out.
But, patrick, your closingthoughts for everybody?
Some of these things are prettyheavy for people, but you're
someone that brings a lot ofhope and a lot of joy, and could
you close us out with somewords that you would like
everybody to know?
Patrick Wood (46:46):
out with some words that you would like
everybody to know.
Well, let's say that you workfor the State Department or
you're a mucky-muck inWashington DC and you were
tapped to be an ambassador to aforeign country, and you think
at first, well, that's a greathonor.
Until they tell you, well,you're going to be assigned to
North Korea to be an ambassadorthere.
First.
You're going to be assigned toNorth Korea to be an ambassador
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there, first you're going towonder will I ever get out alive
?
But what a nasty place to be anambassador.
Well, for instance, in 2Corinthians 5.20, it says Paul
said now we are ambassadors forChrist.
We're assigned to this world,stinking as it is, to bring
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sense and the message of thegospel, the kingdom, for one
thing.
But the problem is, if you gointo a foreign country, you have
to learn something about it.
You have to learn the language,for instance, the culture, some
of the stuff that you don't doto get yourself in big trouble.
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You have to be sensitive to theculture that you're going into.
There's no different here.
The problem is, christians havea lot of truth and a lot of
reality in their hands of theBible, but they don't know
what's going on in the world.
They're just dead to it.
So, as ambassadors for Christ,today, our role really is to
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take this whole body of truth,as much as we can see it, to
take it to this world andexplain to them what is going on
, where the deception is.
I mean, if you wanted towitness to a JW or a Mormon or
whatever, you would expect thatyou're going to know something
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about their religion so that youcan explain to them why that's
wrong, and then you're going togive them the truth.
Right?
It's the same thing with ourculture.
At this point, christiansshould measure up to understand
what's going on in the worldtoday, and that means you have
to take the blinders off andtake that to the message to the
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world.
People are hungry.
They're starving forinformation.
Right now, tom, you know thatthey're absolutely starving for
information.
They're starving forinformation right now, tom, you
know that they're absolutelystarving for information.
They're confused.
They're running around likechickens with their head cut off
and there's chaos everywhere.
People are dropping dead allover the place and now we've got
wars and rumors of wars, andpeople are so confused.
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Who can straighten them outexcept we Christians?
There's nobody else on theplanet gets, really gets the
whole picture.
Tom Hughes (49:33):
So well said, so biblical Stay with the Bible.
We can.
The Bible explains what's goingon, and so well said.
Thank you so much, patrick, forfor joining me today.
And again, like, subscribe,share.
It helps us combat the lieswith truth and everything that
Patrick just said.
We got to share the truth outthere.
We have the information and oneof the ways to do that is just
(49:57):
by sharing something like thisvideo going to Patrick's sub
stack and subscribe and learnmore.
Just read it and you're goingto learn, and you're going to
learn and you're going to learn.
Patrick, thank you so much fortaking time out of your schedule
and joining me today.
May God bless you and everybodyremember pray for the peace of
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Jerusalem.
Jerusalem, I'm telling you, isthe bullseye, the enemy of our
souls.
Knows that and God has told us.
But Jesus is coming back, butthis is going to be a very
difficult time for the people ofIsrael until that day.
Thank you again, patrick.
God bless you everybody forjoining us and let's press
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forward.
Thank you.
The Thank you.
Thank you everybody for joiningus at Hope for Our Times.
Obviously, we know what's goingon in Israel.
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We're all being updated.
We're keeping people updatedUnbelievable.
We're reminded to pray for thepeace of Jerusalem.
We know Israel will alwaysexist.
So will the Jews, so willJerusalem, although many powers
and many people don't want thatto happen.
We know God has said it will.
But at the same time, suchunbelievable things are taking
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place.
People's lives are beingdestroyed, war is taking place,
but with that, we're going totake a break from Israel right
now.
I have a special guest on todayjoining me because, while all
that's going on with Ukraine,all that's going on with Israel
and Iran guess what?
Our lives are in danger becauseof this globalist machine that
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is moving forward and we'regoing to be talking about that
right now.
My guest today is Patrick Wood.
Thank you, patrick, for joiningme again.
Patrick Wood (02:09):
My pleasure, tom.
These are such important topicsand you know, everywhere we
look today, we see this waragainst humanity closing in on
us.
It's everywhere.
That's what we addressed twoweeks ago, or two Saturdays ago
in our OmniWar conference, asymposium that we did on well, I
(02:32):
guess we did it on World ViewWeekend, on CHD Children's
Health Defense and also ontechnocracynews and also on
technocracynews.
But this symposium will spreadall over the world talking about
this concept of OmniWare.
It's everywhere at this point,coming at us at every
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conceivable juncture of life forus.
Tom Hughes (03:00):
It's really unbelievable.
All the different tentacles, Iguess you could say, and when we
look at technology.
Patrick, I have a lot ofquestions to ask you, but I'm
just going to begin here.
So I just read that artificialgeneral intelligence.
It looks like it's going to behere by 2027.
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I'm going to ask you this whyis that significant to us?
Why should we be concerned, orshould we be concerned?
What is artificial generalintelligence as opposed to
artificial intelligence that wehear, and can you fill us in?
Patrick Wood (03:42):
Well, you bet.
Fill us in.
Well, you bet.
Let me back up just a secondand say there's no such thing as
artificial intelligence.
For one thing, we use that term.
Intelligence is something thatGod gave to people humans.
It's not meant for machines,period.
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This is a unique human quality.
This part of being human ispart of humanness.
So if they, if somebody says,well, it's artificial
intelligence, it doesn't doesn'tcompute, it just doesn't
compute.
Nevertheless, it's very powerfuland if you look at it as like
an expert system that cananalyze data, make a response to
that data and then issuecommands back to whatever the
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data has been collected on, youcan see how it could be used for
control.
That's the whole idea of AI iscontrol.
It's not for the pure interestof humanity.
It's not for you to do a searchon Google or whatever and
figure out what you want to getin text form.
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It's not for you to write awhite paper or a term paper or
et cetera.
Right, it's about control.
All these data centers that arebeing built around the country
at this point, all of thesecollectively probably have as
much computing power as all ofthe computers behind it before
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it in history.
And now they're telling us oh,this is just to answer a few
simple questions for you onGoogle.
No, I'm sorry, this is.
This is setting up a controlgrid that can basically control
everything in society worldwide,but at least in our country,
and this whole thing is targetedagainst us, to control us in
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every phase of our life.
So when we talk about artificialgeneral intelligence, in any
case that's a new, that will bea new level of intelligence, but
basically the idea is, when youget PhD level intelligence in a
narrow field like chemistry,biology etc.
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The idea about generalintelligence is it'll combine
all those things at one time andit will give you a general
discipline across all theseplatforms be able to talk about
mathematics and chemistry andphysics all at the same time.
And you know they what they're.
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What they're thinking is well,what that means for us
individually.
Who cares?
I don't want to talk aboutphysics anyway, much less
quantum physics versus biologyversus whatever mathematics.
I don't care about that stuff.
I'm sure nobody else in ouraudience cares about it either.
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But when you consider that abody of knowledge could be
launched at that point thatcontains all of the disciplines
of the scientific world, and atleast all the literature as well
, and from the civic world.
You have an entity that willappear to be intelligent.
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There will be no wisdom.
There will be no well, I'll saywisdom.
There will be no application ofwisdom to anything.
There will be no mercy.
Of course that's a humanquality as well, or God quality.
There's going to be no grace init If a science says that's
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what you do, whatever, likeFauci said right, you have to
obey the science, and they havea science.
Tom Hughes (07:55):
It's fascinating.
So I'm looking at this book.
You have a chapter on hereConvergence Science or Scientism
chapter on here, convergenceScience or Scientism where I'm
pretty sure you deal with that.
Technocracy, restructuringcivilization, technocracy then
and now, the genesis oftranshumanism, the great reset,
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the control grid, science ofsocial engineering.
You answer the question who'sdriving this train?
You talked about the one worldreligion.
I mean, these are all topicsthat are huge in and of
themselves and I want to getinto them in just a minute.
Then I want to go here beforewe're done too.
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The UN's this pact for thefuture.
It's global control.
You've been talking about thiscontrol that's coming, and
that's what this whole thing isall about.
Let me ask you this then we'regoing to get into some specifics
but how do you see the mergingof global governance and
technology, including AI,aligning with biblical
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prophecies?
Patrick Wood (09:06):
I think this is where we came in in the last
movie actually, where we weretalking about how the Antichrist
would be preparing for thetribulation period, and we know
this makes sense.
He's not going to take any ofthat seven-year period to
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prepare a system that he's goingto control in the end.
That doesn't make any sense tome anyway I think probably to
other people as well that'sbeing prepared right now, as we
speak.
That's what all this businessabout AI is.
I think that's what all thisbusiness about AI is.
I think it's about all theother narratives that have been
(09:50):
floated on sustainabledevelopment and these 17
sustainable development goalsand all this nonsense about
climate change and cows thatflatulate and the reduction of
food around the world.
All this stuff is just anexpression of technocracy going
(10:15):
forward, and you know it's kindof hard to express it, but I
have to say this all dates backto a religion, a religious
proposition that was made inlike somewhere around 1805 by a
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French philosopher by the nameof Henri de Saint-Simon Simone,
who postulated that a scientistthis was his definition a
scientist, my dear friends is aman who foresees, tells the
future.
In other words, it's becausescience provides the means to
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predict that it is useful andthat scientists are superior to
all other men.
At that point he wanted toreform or change Catholicism
into being a religion ofscientists or science that would
be administrated not byreligious priests like before,
but by scientific priests,engineers and scientists and
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technicians, engineers andscientists and technicians.
And this was kind ofpreposterous at that point for
sure.
But when you get into the 1900sand you see this expressed, for
instance, with the technocracymovement, then you have all
people, for instance, writingabout scientism all of a sudden,
(11:44):
like people like CS Lewis.
He splayed it back in that day,just, you know, critiqued it to
death and it needed to be, butit was declared a religion along
the way and it was flat out areligion.
So you had other people like FAhyatt.
(12:05):
Also, rock wrote about thescientism.
There were many others that didas well.
Today you ask anybody on thestreet what's scientism?
They don't have a clue.
Oh, didn't you read the bookfrom you know, like from c l c s
lewis along the way?
No, don't have a clue.
Um.
But this is now morphed intothis whole business of
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transhumanism, which is decided,decidedly religious because it
it's seeing uh, seeks to umescape death.
Death is, uh, declared adisease.
Now we we're in the business of, you know, curing diseases, so
surely we can cure death.
No, they're not going to do it,but you know, this is where
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this religion has come broughtus to.
So anyway, I'm not sure if I'mrambling here, but no, you're
not rambling.
Tom Hughes (13:03):
Hg Wells was one of these big promoters of that.
Amongst many other names thatwould be commonly known to
people, it was Fauci who saidsomething about.
When you're questioning me,you're questioning science, and
then during the whole last fiveyears, science was elevated to a
place of being God Really inthe minds of these people.
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They want scientists to run thecountry and you have science
coming in different forms tryingto run everything, because
these people think that theyknow better and it's making
decisions.
I think it was HG Wells thatthis world needs to be run by
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people who are unemotionallyinvolved, as he's describing and
this describes science,scientism unemotionally involved
.
You look at the facts.
Therefore, we eliminate 7.5billion people from the planet
or whatever because they're notneeded.
25 billion people from theplanet or whatever, because
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they're not needed.
And when you have science hasbecome God, well then you enter
in a Yuval.
Noah Harari or all the rest, bythe way, everybody just real
quick for you.
Jan Markell is going to join meon Monday.
This coming Monday, october 7th, is the one-year memorial of
the attack against Israel.
She's going to join me onMonday.
Tuesday Jack Hibbs is going tobe joining me right here at Hope
(14:30):
for Our Times and then also, ifyou can, in Temecula on October
9th, southern California, 412Church in Temecula, sunday night
, 5 pm.
Naftali Anaya Naftali, is goingto be joining me from Israel
October 13th Sunday night.
So, if you can, 412 Church,temecula, it's going to be a
(14:53):
great time.
So mark your calendars for allof those things.
Okay, let me ask you this youhave in here the science of
social engineering.
Is just one of your chaptersthat you have.
I mean, I can look at thatsocial engineering and for me,
you definitely see it.
I think that's what we seegoing on with the kids, but
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there's engenderism and allthese other things.
But fill us in a little bitmore besides what the public
would know.
If we're paying attention, wecan see social engineering, but
there's more to us that I thinkwe're not even aware of and it's
been going on for a long time.
Patrick Wood (15:32):
The reason that the early technocrats had an
issue with people was that theycouldn't make people do what
they wanted them to do.
For instance, they could buildfactories, they could build
systems of things, but it alldepended on people to run it.
Now a factory can be engineeredwith sensors and whatever
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things that figure out what'sgoing wrong with it.
You can't do that with people,so you have to have people to
run the factories and run thesociety.
But they couldn't control thepeople in the same way that can
they control the machine.
So this business of science, uh, the science of social
engineering, this this becamethe their main problem that they
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had to solve in order to getpeople to to like herding cats
right, to get them to to do whatthey wanted them to do.
So when they led with thisdefinition of technocracy in
like 1937, that they said"'Technocracy is the science of
social engineering', "'it is',they said, "'the science of
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social engineering'".
And then they go on to talkabout the scientific operation
of the entire social mechanismthat produced and distributes
goods and services for everybody, all of us.
We don't produce it, they do.
They give us our k-rations, Isuppose.
But they wanted to lead firstwith this business of the
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science of social engineering.
That's an oxymoron in itself ina sense, because it's not a
science in that sense it's adark art, is what it is.
But when we see today, all ofthe stuff going on with
propaganda in the world today,it's been weaponized against the
minds of billions of peoplearound the world.
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When we see mind controlexperiments, friends, for
instance, um, what uh darpa didoriginally with um uh, the a, m
mk ultras experiments, that was,that was a real thing.
People have exaggeratedprobably, but is it that was a
real thing at that point?
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Exaggerated probably, but thatwas a real thing at that point.
And so today, the main weaponthat's being leveled against us
is AI.
Ai is the consummate way toexercise the so-called science
of social engineering, becauseyou can do it in a way that
people can't detect what's goingon.
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They don't know that they'rebeing engineered.
And further, it's not justtelling them what to say or what
to think, necessarily, but itwants to change how they think
so that they don't have to beprompted to think of a certain
thing.
They will come to thatconclusion on their own.
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This is a new level that we'venever seen before on their own.
This is a new level that we'venever seen before.
You know, you can force somebodylike Winston in 1984, he had to
say, well, two plus two is five, and he finally said it, but he
didn't think it, you know.
So you can force people to saysomething under the breath or
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say something else, maybe.
But now, with socialengineering at this level,
people will not know thatthey're being engineered and
they won't see that shift intheir thinking.
Where they're now, all of asudden, they're saying things
that they never would have saida year ago or two years ago.
Tom Hughes (19:07):
Very dangerous stuff .
Yeah, I have a chapter in mybook called a section in my book
called the Manchurian Children,taken from the movie and novel
the Manchurian Candidate, whichis that's really what it was is
social engineering within thisChinese camp of prisoners that
were able to be manipulated andto do things that they wouldn't
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have done.
To believe things happen thatnever happened, to not believe
things that actually did happen.
And but we see it.
It appears to me this isexactly what's going on with the
schools.
I believe this is going on withall of the climate talk.
Yes, you can always say I mean,you can always say climate's
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changing because it's probablyhotter today in Phoenix than it
was on a previous what Octoberday?
Sometime in the past.
So climate all has changed, butsummers are hot, winters are
cold.
This is just the way it is.
But when you take a group ofpeople, patrick and it seems to
me it works like this and allyou tell them since they were
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born.
So just go back 20 years or 30years.
If you're 30 years old,probably the only thing you've
ever heard is climate change andglobal warming and with no
frame of reference.
Well, wait a minute.
This is the way it always is.
If you're older, you know it'salways this, you know it's
always 115 degrees of a phoenixin the summer.
Right, I mean, this is it.
But now they say it's thehottest ever.
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It's never been this way andthat's all they've ever heard.
Hence, that's part of thesocial engineering too, it would
seem to me.
And in the Clubber-Ohms book in1991, where they said hey, we
can manipulate behaviors andthoughts using pollution, and we
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can make man the enemy bysaying it's your fault.
Therefore, we change behavior.
So this is all part of it.
Patrick Wood (21:06):
It really is remember the, the movie, the
original movie called thegaslight.
Uh, yeah, I 1938 I think it was.
Tom Hughes (21:15):
Yeah, I think it was 38 somewhere back then.
Patrick Wood (21:18):
Um, that was a process where this guy, a
husband, uh drove his wifeinsane by gaslighting her that
that's where that term comesfrom on saying that whatever she
was seeing she didn't see.
And over time, this was aprocess that built up, starting
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with one small thing and thensomething else, something else,
something else.
Finally, she just loses hermind when we see all of this
gaslighting stuff being thrownat society about global warming
for decades now, about changingthe atmosphere, changing the
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genetic structure of things,whatever, oh, it's all good for
you, we're going to save theplanet.
All these things have beenbasically a gaslighting
operation.
At the beginning of it, nobodyreally saw what was going on,
but as it builds on itself, now,all of a sudden, people have
fallen into outright deceptionand they will never probably get
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out.
It's going to be really hardfor a lot of people to get out
of this, because that's the waygaslighting works.
So today we have all thesethings around us, the world.
They're telling us no, no,whatever you see, whatever, you
don't trust your eyes.
You just, you know, look at,look at something else, but you
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can't trust your eyes.
Now, you can't trust your ears.
You can't trust your ears.
You can't trust your senses.
Your mind can conceive ofwhat's true.
At that point, you're going tobe in a psychotic state, having
been separated from reality.
This is the devil's plan fromthe get-go.
It took a long time, but nowwe're here.
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Basically.
Tom Hughes (23:09):
Now we're here mass chaos, mass confusion.
When we look at everythinggoing on in Israel, it's like
how do you explain all of these?
Things are all coming to a headat the same time.
Thinking about this gaslighting, I'm reading this report the
other day that says children arebeing told at it's a particular
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school district, can't rememberwhich one that asking questions
is a form of disinformation andit was.
John Kerry, who was at theWorld Economic Forum, says we
need to secure the votes becausethen we can make sure that we
control the information.
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I mean, it was obvious what hewas saying.
So we can go after people likeyou and me, therefore, in
controlling this.
So I mean, you look?
So the gaslighting involveswe're all liars, you know
thinking of that novel and thebook Gaslighting Us.
You're told we know what's true, but everybody's told well,
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that's not true.
Well, eat, a man knows true.
And then you it does.
It drives people crazy and thentheir thinking totally, totally
shifts in that.
Let me ask you this because Iwant to get into this global
pact for the future and it'svery concerning because
everybody's being gaslit.
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We have the social engineeringthat's taking place Again.
It's been going on a long timebut we've like arrived at this
head.
It's like here, we can see it.
We're shouting at people, we'reclaimed to be full of lies and
disinformation, we need to beshut up, and all that.
So you have the global pact forthe future.
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I'm reading it.
It does not look good, but yetit looks so biblical at the same
time, in the sense of what theBible warns us about what is
coming.
Can you explain to our viewerswhat is the global pact for the
Future?
It was at the UN meeting, andare all nations going to be
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subject to it?
What's the intent?
And then I'll ask you a fewmore questions after that.
Patrick Wood (25:22):
Yeah, this business with the Pact for the
Future.
It contains three separateelements.
The first was the PAC itself.
Then there was an addendum thatcalled it the Digital PAC for
the Future.
I think that's where most ofthe meat lies here, and the
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reason I say that is becausethis push for a digital ID
worldwide, for every human onearth, if they can ever achieve
this truly.
And they call that a legalidentity, by the way, you can
say you.
If somebody has your socialsecurity number, they can say
you're you, but they can't proveit right.
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If somebody hacks your identity, they really don't know.
Is it really Tom Hughes or PatWood?
A legal identity goes beyondthat to prove well, prove
positive that it's you sittingon the other side of the
keyboard personally.
And if they can do that, theycan track everything that is
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about you in the, in theuniverse, every transaction,
everything, every web page yougo to, every emotion you emote,
um.
So the the idea here is to geteverybody on board now to create
this new digital id.
I know I don't know exactly howthey're going to do it at this
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point, but that's what they wantto do In the meantime.
The whole body of the PAC forthe future.
If you read all of the elementsof it, you kind of come away
thinking what the heck are theytalking about?
It's a lot of gobbledygook andum.
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Nevertheless, their, theirintent was to frame, to reframe
the united nations into aversion 2.0, in other words, to
supercharge the effort of thisunited nations, what it was
already supercharged, I'm sure,before, but now they want to be
on steroids, and so they're kindof calling it version 2.0 of
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the United Nations to get allthe nations of the world to
accelerate their efforts to getthe 17 Sustainable Development
Goals in place by 2030.
Development goals in place by2030.
Those goals were established,by the way, at the 2030 agenda
meeting in 2015.
So here we are now 2004 or 2014, 24.
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Um, they only have six yearsleft to meet this goal.
That I don't know why that's2030 is really the most
significant goal for them.
We'll find out, I expect.
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Maybe that's what the devil'sexpecting.
Where the tribulation willstart, who knows?
But they're really intent oncompressing the time frame now
between now and 2030.
That's only six years, just avery short period of time.
Tom Hughes (28:36):
It is.
I think it began with Agenda 21.
And that was, wasn't that likein the 1993 or something like
that in Rio de Janeiro, 1992.
1992.
Okay, and then you have thatAgenda 21 for the 21st century.
2015 comes along.
Well, let's narrow, let's giveus a target, and my guess is
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they've got the target.
Whether or not it's the devilin their head, they have.
They do have a target.
It was in 2015 also that thePope announced by 2030, you'll
own nothing and be happy.
We didn't start hearing thatcomment until probably a year or
two ago, except for us who werepaying attention.
It was 2015 when he said it.
But we look at this, everythingis zeroing that way.
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Let me ask you this when we seeus, if you're a believer in the
Lord Jesus Christ, how much ofthis is a concern for us and
should it be?
Actually, I do think it shouldbe, but I'd like to know your
thoughts on it and also, alongthese same lines, just for
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everybody watching this, if youwould like subscribe and share
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If you would like subscribe andshare this video.
It's one of the only ways wecan really combat the lies with
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disinformation and so we cancombat the lies with the truth
and a couple more things andthen we'll get on some more with
Pat.
But again, jan Markell will bewith me on Monday, october 7th,
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memorial of the October 7thInvasion of Israel last year.
Jack Hibbs, tuesday, october8th, naftali, october 13th, 412
Church in Temecula and 5 o'clockpm.
Make sure you join us.
Naftali, 412 Church in Temecula, 5 pm.
It will be fantastic.
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He's coming all the way fromIsrael Be half of Netanyahu, by
the way but it's going to be agreat evening.
If you want to do somethingreally cool, also you can join
me, for I have a foot check thisout, patrick.
I have a Footsteps of Paul tripcoming up.
We go to Ephesus, which is offthe charts.
Patmos, of course, this is ifwe're not raptured and we're
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still allowed to travel, butPatmos where John received the
words for the book of Revelation, where he wrote those words
down.
We're going to Crete.
We think of Paul and Timothy.
We have a couple of littlevacation times in Mykonos and
Santorini.
We'll be in Athens, corinththink of Paul writing first and
second Corinthians.
We think we're going to be alsoMars Hill, where we have the
words of Acts, chapter 17.
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It's going to be a fantastictrip.
If you want to go, that's comingup in April of 2025.
Lord willing, lord willing,just put it out there for you if
you want to join us and then,if we have an extension to Rome,
if you want to do the extensiontoo.
But it'd be a great trip.
Anyways, that's a lot out there, but I'm looking going.
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Man, I need to have a littlebit of joy in the time that we
have left, and doing a trip likethat is great.
You get so much biblicalhistory too.
But, patrick, as we see thesethings just culminating, the
significant to us is if you're abeliever in Christ.
When we look at this globalpact, isn't Australia already
kind of testing the grounds withthis?
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Say it again Australia,australia, yeah, oh boy.
It seems to me they're like aguinea pig for these things.
Patrick Wood (32:10):
Yeah, they't they.
It seems to me they're like aguinea pig for these things.
Yeah, they really have been,and out of sight, out of mind, I
guess for us up here they'refar, far away.
But yes, australia has been.
It used to be really thebastion of freedom in the world
Not anymore.
And they've been knuckled down,uh, and oppressed, uh.
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It's just absolutely amazing,but the same things happen in
the uk as well.
You know, the uk is just goneover the edge right now, um,
over the top, with, for instance, uh, jailing people for just
saying something on a streetthat they don't like, or posting
an innocuous social media post,and people are getting hard
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prison time for it.
We've never seen anything likethis before in the history of
the world, honestly.
But Australia is following inthat footstep, but Australia is
falling in that footstep.
Tom Hughes (33:11):
So I look at this and if we look at the last five
years, canada has been hit bythese same things.
It's the Western world that hasreally come under this weird
social engineering, all thistech-driven.
Granted, we already knowthere's a social credit system
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in China, and so forth.
I remember saying years ago thesocial credit system in China
will be exported and otherleaders in other parts of the
world will import that and theywill perfect it with technology.
Well, here we are, because itreally is.
China's is kind of archaic incomparison to what we are facing
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.
And I have a theory for whythings are going so fast in the
Western world.
What you mentioned in the UK,why we have like Australia's
already in it.
Canada is experiencing allkinds of things.
Obviously, we can see thefreight train coming here in the
US too, but I believe it'sbecause the Antichrist rises out
of the West, and so the West isbeing prepared with the.
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You know, people can't eventhink straight anymore.
They don't know what truth is.
You can present people facts,they can't receive facts.
They'll believe the lies.
And I think, as a what's whyit's happening in the West, I
believe, is because the West isbeing prepared for that leader
to come out of it?
Have you ever thought of that?
Patrick Wood (34:38):
I have, and I I generally agree with you about
that.
However, I want to point outthat China in particular, has
been a technocracy from at least1976, when they came back on
the world stage.
I've had several articles alongthe way, and I just have one
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currently on technocracynewscalled Proof that china has been
a technocracy since 1976.
Um, when china came on thescene uh, back then out of the
dark ages, literally out theywere worse than north korea.
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At that point they had noeconomic system.
People were starving, they,they were oppressed.
It was just a horriblesituation.
When Chairman Deng came to theUnited States to talk with
Brzezinski and Kissinger aboutcoming back into the fold, if
you will, the economic fold ofthe world, they didn't teach
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them about capitalism or aboutfree market economics.
They talked to them abouttechnocracy.
This has been acknowledged nowin scholarly reports over the
years the one I just postedright here that's one of them
that, based on the context ofour invention of technocracy in
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the 1930s, they adopted thismodel for governing their
economic system and forengineering their economic
system, and they've beenspreading this around the world
to anybody who would take it,for instance, in South America,
africa, you name it even inEurope and even back to us, if
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you can imagine that They've sospread this virus around the
world that everybody at thispoint is just accepting it like
well, we don't know where itcame from, but they look at
China as a communistdictatorship.
It's not anymore.
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That's one of the reasons I'mhopping down about this is
because if we don't recognizeChina for what it is, how can we
ever defeat it?
You can't do that.
If you're going to fightcommunism, you're going to be
boxing as shadows at that point.
All that to say, china has beenthe engine of technocracy
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around the world.
We were part of the start of it.
Our Silicon Valley, big techcompanies have exacerbated it,
for sure, it for sure.
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But we see in the West, likeyou say, probably this is where
the anti-crisis is going to comeout of.
But I wouldn't be totally sure,but it seems that way at this
point.
Tom Hughes (37:41):
If people want to follow you.
You're on Substack, so all ofyour articles are there.
People can subscribe, they canread, so how would they find you
, patrick Well?
Patrick Wood (37:52):
technocracynews is .
That's the heartbeat of my workright now.
Tom Hughes (37:58):
So you guys all see it there.
You can see it there in thecredits and also in the
description, but I wouldencourage you to subscribe to
Substack Patrick on this also.
You have who's driving thistrain?
In a one world religion emergestwo different chapters.
You look at who's driving thetrain.
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There's all different names.
We have different nations.
Klaus Schwab said regardingChina, he seems to love what
China was doing.
That's the way we all need tooperate the UN.
We can see these things.
So are there certain peoplethat are behind it?
Well, obviously there are, butI mean who?
Patrick Wood (38:40):
do you see, right now?
In my opinion strongly held bythe way the driving force for
this whole thing is the systemof central banks around the
world, and particularly the Bankfor International Settlements.
That's the central bank of thecentral banks right of the
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central banks right.
It's based in Basel,switzerland, and basically it
issues all the monetary policy,et cetera, for all the central
banks around the world,including China, include Israel,
germany.
All these nations have acentral bank.
We have one called the FederalReserve.
These are all private banks,however, they're not owned by
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the national governments.
These are all private banks,however, they're not owned by
the national governments.
These are private banks andwhat we see is the ways that.
I can say that, because I madea study at the results in that
chapter in my book, showing thatthe central banks are the ones
basically issuing the policiesdriving the world right now.
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So when you look at centralbank digital currencies, for
instance, and everybody seesthat, oh, this is not going to
end well, we don't want them,knowing everything that we do,
everything we spend, et cetera,the major overarching goal that
the global elite has at thispoint is to capture the whole
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system in this digital world,and it requires a digital ID as
well.
Tom Hughes (40:17):
Very fascinating.
You look at a company like acorporation like BlackRock, a
corporation like BlackRock.
These things are all tied intogether, oh yes.
And then you have the ESGscores.
You have the SDG, whicheverybody's going to be forced
to comply.
You know, you read the 17 SDGgoals.
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They all sound so nice.
Well, let's get rid of allpoverty.
I mean really.
Well, I mean, we startedlooking at them.
They sound nice but actuallythey're extremely destructive
and crushing to the masses.
The only way they can the DEIscores, whatever it is the only
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way they can do this is reallyto crush the people and to
control them.
Patrick, when I look at that andI see Book of Revelation, you
see the riders on the whitehorse, the red horse, the black
horse and the pale horse.
I look at the black horse, thethird horse of the Book of
Revelation a day's wage for aloaf of bread.
Don't harm the oil or the wine.
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What it implies to me is thatyou have a group of people at
the top.
They're calling all the shots.
Don't harm the oil or the wine.
The elite class and everybodyelse is crushed by the system
that they're building, and it isan economic system meant to be
collapsed, it looks like, inorder to bring about the system
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that they want.
Do you read it that way or doyou see some more things in
there?
Patrick Wood (41:50):
No, I do.
I was going to read just a clipfor you here.
See if I can get up on mycomputer here.
Okay, this is really telling.
There was a global scholar bythe name of Bragg Kana.
He's rated as one of the 75most influential people in the
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21st century.
The guy is young, a ticklet.
People love him around theworld Globalists do and he wrote
this book called Connectography, basically modeling the global
city, how everything isconnecting, and he wrote this in
the beginning of his book.
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Listen to the context of this.
This is a direct quote.
We're building this globalsociety without a global leader.
That's the first point.
Global order is no longersomething that can be dictated
or controlled from the top down.
Globalization is itself theorder.
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You just have to think.
This was stunning to me.
Wow, this guy's not on our side, right?
But he said we're building thisglobal society without a global
leader.
Who's going to fill that roleone day?
We know who it is.
Wow, we know who it is.
You know this whole system istailor-made for the Antichrist,
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and he's the one obviouslybehind it in the first place,
because he's the God of thisworld.
He can do those sort of things,wow, but make no mistake about
it.
When it's finally matured, theLord, god in heaven, will say
that's it.
The church will be out of here,and then the fun starts for
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them, for the rest of the world.
Tom Hughes (43:52):
That is absolutely intriguing to me.
So people want the.
You write about all thesethings every day, like on
Substack, so you can subscribeto Patrick's Substack again.
Just go there.
You can see the links.
You see it in his name here.
You see it in the description.
You can click on it.
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You can go there and Iencourage you to do it.
I mean to get that information.
That's incredible.
I mean to put it that way andthat's so true.
We know it's so true.
We look and go, hey, they'regoing to build the system, the
10 kings, and then they're goingto find that man and there he
is.
That's right.
Patrick Wood (44:33):
It's not Klaus Schwab, it's not Harari, it's
not anybody else, not Biden,whatever right, whoever this
person is, they're anticipatingat some point.
Just kind of read that in astatement.
They're anticipating somedaythere might be somebody who can
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handle this system and take itover.
Tom Hughes (45:00):
They're waiting for their Messiah.
That's right.
We know it's going to be thefalse Messiah, but they're going
to think he has arrived.
You said a long time ago yousaid and I've used it like a
million times since because it'sso true the Antichrist isn't
going to waste any time buildingthe infrastructure.
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It has to be built Biblically.
It's the only thing that makessense.
What you just read totally fitsthat and that's why we're
seeing all these things happen.
Now the system has to be inplace, including the psyche of
the people even has to be ready.
So the social engineering andthe technical things, the UN
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pact for the future, all thesedifferent dynamics all coming
about.
Technology has to be where itis Israel, obviously the
attention is zeroing in onIsrael as a nation.
So many things happening thatit's not coincidental, by the
way, everybody.
(46:04):
Just want to remind you againJan Markell will be joining me
on Monday.
Jack Hibbs will be joining meon Tuesday.
Nafta Lee is going to bejoining me on at 412 Church in
Temecula on October 13th, sundaynight, 5 pm.
Okay, patrick, you said a lotthere.
By the way, these things are inPatrick's book at the Hope for
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a Time store if you want tocheck them out.
But, patrick, your closingthoughts for everybody?
Some of these things are prettyheavy for people, but you're
someone that brings a lot ofhope and a lot of joy, and could
you close us out with somewords that you would like
everybody to know?
Patrick Wood (46:46):
out with some words that you would like
everybody to know.
Well, let's say that you workfor the State Department or
you're a mucky-muck inWashington DC and you were
tapped to be an ambassador to aforeign country, and you think
at first, well, that's a greathonor.
Until they tell you, well,you're going to be assigned to
North Korea to be an ambassadorthere.
First.
You're going to be assigned toNorth Korea to be an ambassador
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there, first you're going towonder will I ever get out alive
?
But what a nasty place to be anambassador.
Well, for instance, in 2Corinthians 5.20, it says Paul
said now we are ambassadors forChrist.
We're assigned to this world,stinking as it is, to bring
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sense and the message of thegospel, the kingdom, for one
thing.
But the problem is, if you gointo a foreign country, you have
to learn something about it.
You have to learn the language,for instance, the culture, some
of the stuff that you don't doto get yourself in big trouble.
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You have to be sensitive to theculture that you're going into.
There's no different here.
The problem is, christians havea lot of truth and a lot of
reality in their hands of theBible, but they don't know
what's going on in the world.
They're just dead to it.
So, as ambassadors for Christ,today, our role really is to
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take this whole body of truth,as much as we can see it, to
take it to this world andexplain to them what is going on
, where the deception is.
I mean, if you wanted towitness to a JW or a Mormon or
whatever, you would expect thatyou're going to know something
(48:40):
about their religion so that youcan explain to them why that's
wrong, and then you're going togive them the truth.
Right?
It's the same thing with ourculture.
At this point, christiansshould measure up to understand
what's going on in the worldtoday, and that means you have
to take the blinders off andtake that to the message to the
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world.
People are hungry.
They're starving forinformation.
Right now, tom, you know thatthey're absolutely starving for
information.
They're starving forinformation right now, tom, you
know that they're absolutelystarving for information.
They're confused.
They're running around likechickens with their head cut off
and there's chaos everywhere.
People are dropping dead allover the place and now we've got
wars and rumors of wars, andpeople are so confused.
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Who can straighten them outexcept we Christians?
There's nobody else on theplanet gets, really gets the
whole picture.
Tom Hughes (49:33):
So well said, so biblical Stay with the Bible.
We can.
The Bible explains what's goingon, and so well said.
Thank you so much, patrick, forfor joining me today.
And again, like, subscribe,share.
It helps us combat the lieswith truth and everything that
Patrick just said.
We got to share the truth outthere.
We have the information and oneof the ways to do that is just
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by sharing something like thisvideo going to Patrick's sub
stack and subscribe and learnmore.
Just read it and you're goingto learn, and you're going to
learn and you're going to learn.
Patrick, thank you so much fortaking time out of your schedule
and joining me today.
May God bless you and everybodyremember pray for the peace of
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Jerusalem.
Jerusalem, I'm telling you, isthe bullseye, the enemy of our
souls.
Knows that and God has told us.
But Jesus is coming back, butthis is going to be a very
difficult time for the people ofIsrael until that day.
Thank you again, patrick.
God bless you everybody forjoining us and let's press
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forward.
Thank you.
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