August 15, 2023 • 43 mins
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What if the secret to unlocking your full potential in work and life is as simple as time management and self-care? Join us on a journey as we explore these vital topics with Renee Claire of Renee Claire Consulting. Renee shares her wisdom on preserving energy, setting boundaries, and incorporating self-care into our busy lives. She brings to light the importance of offloading draining tasks, breaking down money-related limiting beliefs, and shares actionable strategies to help women running businesses as well as those with PCOS.
We also dive into the deeper layers of self-care, including setting boundaries and creating routines that prioritize your wellbeing. Renee introduces the concept of time blocking to help with focus, and discusses how childhood trauma can sometimes prevent us from taking care of ourselves. Together, we challenge these narratives and share strategies to foster a lifestyle that prioritizes sleep, movement, and healthy eating.
Amber shares her personal experiences with diets and how our nutritional needs change as we grow older. We discuss the crucial importance of embracing change, learning from mentors, and charging a fair price for services. Above all, we underline the significance of self-care, movement, and sleep in maintaining optimal health and productivity.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome back everybody.
I'm very excited today We'vegot a great guest.
We have Renee Claire of ReneeClaire Consulting.
Hi, renee, hey, and we're gonnatalk to us today about we're
gonna go over several things.
We're gonna talk about servingenergy time, blocking self-care.
We're gonna talk a little bitabout some stuff for those of
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you who are self-employedentrepreneurs or you run small
businesses, because Renee has alot of expertise there and she's
actually helped me quite a bitwith my business in the past as
well, and we are going to focusa lot of our attention today on
some of the things that shereally shines at and does best
(00:45):
at, which is helping peoplepreserve their energy so that
they have enough to give toothers, and I think these
lessons are applicable to a lotof us.
We are gonna talk specificallyabout some stuff with PCOS as
well, with this.
So, renee, tell us about youand introduce yourself for us.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Hi everybody.
I'm so glad to be back hereagain.
It's been like a hot minute,but I'm it's such an honor.
So hey, as Amber said, my nameis Renee, last name is Claire.
I'm a productivity consultant.
I've been helping women who arein the growth stage of their
small businesses, who feeloverwhelmed, disorganized,
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chaotic and the big whammy.
They feel like they can'tbreathe.
You know, if this is you, I cantotally relate.
I've been there too.
I help women to determine ifit's time to hire help so they
can offload tasks that just feelsuper draining.
I teach them how to train theirteam.
I know sometimes it can feeloverwhelming or like you feel
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alone, like you don't know whoto talk to about that kind of
stuff.
And of course, my cornerstoneis time management.
I love teaching people timeblocking techniques and putting
themselves first with timemanagement.
I know I geek out on processand project management, so like
planning your projects, and thenI really excel in marketing and
sales strategy.
(02:05):
I've been working as a projectmanager in the marketing area
for the wellness industry Goshfor like over three years now.
It's pretty incredible.
And then I love holding spacefor people to break their
limiting beliefs and, you know,break beyond thinking that they
aren't worth more or can't makea certain amount of money.
So I really love helping womento make their first 100k.
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So it's really rewarding tojust be there and be a source of
light and show people how theycan shine their light brighter.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, I love that.
That is exactly what you do.
Renee helped me quite a bit atthe in the early days of my work
, when I was transitioning tobeing totally virtual and doing
more online work and moreeducation work and stuff like
that to figure out how to reallybalance out my needs as a
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person with my sort of desire toshare all of this stuff with
the world and limiting beliefsabout money as well and how much
money I should charge for myservices and things like that.
So we did a lot of work backthen.
That has served me very wellover the years and I've built
off of a lot of it and verygrateful for the help that she
gave me back then.
(03:17):
When was that that we workedtogether?
That was like what?
20 maybe, I think.
So it's been a while ago, butyou know, I still am
implementing a lot of the stuffthat we sort of solidified back
then.
Before I met Renee, I wasalready kind of trying to figure
out like what does that looklike to time block as an
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entrepreneur?
How do I protect my peace,protect my energy?
How can I like chargeappropriately so that I'm making
enough money to support myselfto where I have time for myself
to you know, and just likegetting out of this idea that it
always has to be more and moreso, anyway, very grateful for
all that.
So let's talk a little bitabout this stuff.
(03:59):
So tell us about what is timeblocking?
First of all, like people areprobably listening, like so what
is that?
and how can we use it as a toolfor not just our businesses but
our health and wellness?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
So I started off time blocking well before I was even
I even considered myself aproductivity consultant.
I actually didn't know what Iwanted to do with my life.
So let me take you back wayback, everybody, to 2015, 2016,
when I realized that my marriagewas over.
So it was like rock bottom timeand I'm going to my therapist
(04:36):
and I'm telling her everythingthat I'm doing and I'm saying I
don't know why I'm tired, Idon't know why I'm run down, I
don't know I have energy.
I don't have energy foranything.
And my people, my friends, aregetting mad at me, as well as my
coworkers.
And she's like Okay, tell mewhat's going on in a week.
And so I did.
I was told her I wasaccidentally double and triple,
booking meetings or outings withfriends.
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I was working myself like more.
I was working probably 50 to 80hours at that time and adding
in extracurricular activities.
And in order to do all that, Iwasn't choosing to sleep and I
wasn't choosing to eat and Iwasn't choosing to exercise.
So this wonderful therapist ofmine was like Okay, Renee, it's
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time you need to write downexactly what you're doing and
you need to focus on these bigthree things.
And I was like what are those?
And this is like what I preachand tell people every day today.
The three things that you needto make as a priority are eating
, sleeping and moving, and ifyou do those, then you're having
a successful life.
And I couldn't even fathom itbecause I was like, Well, isn't
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my job to show up for otherpeople and work?
and, you know, drive myself intothe ground in order to support
other people and she's like no,your life is about you.
And I was secretly covering upthe pain, you know, and the
failure, right, feeling like atotal, like failure from my
marriage.
And I don't know why I'm stillgetting emotional about it, you
(06:01):
know, because I know I'm nowhappily engaged.
There's a happy ending to thisstory?
Yes, so how does that relate totime blocking?
Time blocking means justchunking your time and focusing
on a task or a group of similartasks, and so the way that I
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figured out was important for mewas that I needed to create at
least two to three hours tofocus on myself care.
For me, that meant in themorning, right, so I was
developing a really routine, andthen at night, like making sure
I was going to bed at areasonable hour so I could get
my, and I literally have to haveeight hours of sleep.
Everybody, or I'm just likereally cranky and hangry
throughout the day.
(06:43):
I think we all need that, yeah,and I'm not thinking it sounds
like so, like cryptic and weird.
There's actually Elon Musk.
I read an article on him and hetime blocks in five minutes.
You all, and for me I've triedto do 15 minute, five minute
time box.
I will tell you, as a woman, itdoesn't work.
We have to leave room fordistractions and the kids
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popping in and, you know, ourfriends to call, or for us to
have like a squirrel momentwhere we look out the window and
pay attention to something elseyou know, or we get that fun
Instagram reel popping up on ourphone yeah, Five minute time.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Boxes cuckoo bananas.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I mean, I guess it works for them.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I could never yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I don't know.
I'm like I do wonder if it'slike a masculine, you know thing
and it could work for some likewomen who have like a little
bit more masculine than them.
Those are the things that Isuggested.
People start off with yourmorning routine.
So time block, you know youhave a good three hour nurturing
time block and focus on likethree things you can do for
yourself, care and for me.
(07:44):
You know, I just said the topthree.
So this morning, for example, Iwalked, I had a really nice,
lovely like breakfast.
That's 500 calories.
I'm working on macronutrientsright now.
And then I've been meditatingfor years for about 20 minutes a
day, but lately I've come backto technique called EFT or
tapping, and I find that that isjust really like catapulting,
(08:08):
you know me forward and gettingout of these like the yuckiness
or pressure anxiety a littlemore quickly.
Is that helpful?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, that's great.
No, I love that.
That makes a lot of sense and Ithink to illustrate kind of the
way that I do it, because I domaybe a little bit differently,
but I have blocks of time whereI see clients sort of all at
once.
What I have changed over theyears is that I used to try to
block all my appointments andclient facing work on the same
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like two days of the week andjust kind of knock it all out so
that I could rest the rest ofthe week.
And what I realized over timeis really a more of a balance
with my schedule actually workedbetter for me.
And as I worked on boundarieswith myself and how much, how
much unnecessary energy I wasgiving just out of a place of
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like people pleasing Once Iworked on a lot of that, I
realized that I didn't reallyneed to shove everything onto
one day of the week so that Icould recover all the rest of
the week.
So now I just, you know I havesome clients, some blocks in the
morning where I do, I have likeabout three hours, like you, in
the morning where I'm, you know, lucky enough, I don't have to
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go into an office, so I get tomake my own schedule and I take
that time for myself feed mysourdough starter, go out and do
the, go out and check on mygarden, you know, do all the
things that I love to do.
That's kind of my meditation,and that usually happens before
my son wakes up and I get himready, get him off where he
needs to go, then I'll see acouple of clients for the day
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and then I take, you know, theafternoon and the evening unless
I'm teaching or something likethat for exercise.
I pull dance now and so I willgo to my pole classes and the
afternoons and, you know, comeback, make food for my family,
all that kind of stuff.
So my life has, because of theconcept of time blocks, I have
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developed this ability to haveso much more time just for me
and to not feel guilty about itbecause I know that everything
will get done in a reasonabletimeframe.
And it's helped give mepermission to say you know what?
I don't need to show up everysecond of every day for
everybody else's needs.
(10:32):
Like people can wait a day.
You think it would be 24 hoursfor an answer, or you know what
have you, whereas before, when Ididn't have time blocks, it was
like everything felt urgent.
You know, it also helped merealize when I was out growing
my own ability to run my ownbusiness and I needed help.
And so now I have two employees, which is awesome, and they
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helped me with a lot ofdifferent things.
Shout out Linnea and Dora.
So those are all things thattime blocking has helped me with
.
So I think you've never donethis before.
I know some people work likenine to five, so what would you
tell them if they worked like anine to five job?
How would they manage timeblocking in that sort of
scenario?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Actually, what my heart like, it's like someone
can like, can really like in anembody.
I call it embody productivity,right, like?
Call it body yoga, bodymovement and body productivity,
so that it's like interior lifeand you are doing that and it's
not perfect.
It's not a perfect system.
Everybody like what.
Teach people time blocking.
People have this kind ofconcept of like.
(11:34):
Once I said it, then that's itand it can't change.
Well, the actually it's likeorganic it changes with you and
it changes as you grow yourbusiness or you change in your
life, or there's a new season ora new kid or you know, like an
elderly parent you need to takecare of.
There's so many things about itthat are really fantastic, and
I love how you found thatintegration and you said the
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keyword at the beginning.
There it's it's of using thistime blocking technique for
boundaries right, and I startedoff showing that this is
boundaries for other people, butreally, at the end of the day,
it's boundaries for yourself.
It's learning what you will andwon't do and learning that it's
okay and that you can acceptyourself and accept your life as
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you want to live it in anygiven moment.
And so I just wanted tohighlight that and just say
thank you.
And then, for nine to fiveyears been there.
So the first time that I appliedthis, I had a full time job,
and so I focused on my morningroutine, so my morning time
block.
And then I focused on a lunchtime block, either 30 minutes to
an hour, just reallydisconnecting from work and
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figuring out like a walk.
If I was able to do that,sometimes it's not possible
during the hot Texas summer, soI might like find a little look
to read or just talk to a friendor get a cup of coffee or
something and after work, reallynice wind down time block.
So like things, you enjoy it.
Maybe you don't like movementin the morning and it works
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better for you in the afternoon.
Maybe that's the time you do it, or maybe you do some food prep
or cook, you know those kindsof things.
And then a really nice likeevening routine where you maybe
disconnect from technology whichI know is really, really tough
in our day and age and see like,oh God, I just got it from my
phone but then we got it likethat Right.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Well, it's hard.
I mean, it is hard so much ofwhat we do, especially if you
are like a small business owner.
A lot of what you do is usuallyon your phone too, so it is
really difficult, like some ways, I think it's more difficult
for me to not be on my phonethan the average person, because
you know there's alwayssomething to do on there, but
then, on the other hand, it'seasier in some ways, because to
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me, I associate my phone withwork, whereas other people, I
think, associate their phonewith fun and with, like you know
, winding down or relaxing orwhatever.
When I go on TikTok or I go onInstagram, it's not relaxing
experience for me it's more likeI have all these DMs I need to
like reply to or whatever, andso I made like dummy accounts
(14:06):
for myself so I could have justlike a normal social media
experience.
But also I started implementingthis concept that I saw on
TikTok, which is low dopaminemornings.
Have you heard of this?
No, tell me.
So it's like I'm concept, well,the similar concept to your
morning routine, but it's theidea that in the morning you
sort of don't do anything that'sgoing to give you a huge boost
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of dopamine, like getting on,you know social media, and you
spend that time, you know,creating sort of a routine
that's a little bit more calm,you know semi-structured, like
meditation, like you do, youknow looking at the getting some
sunlight on your skin, allthose kinds of things that are
good for circadian rhythm andthat really serves you the rest
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of the day and that has beenreally helpful for my focus,
actually.
Yes, so I like the concept ofyou know, when you're working a
nine to five, having that timein the morning, although you
know sleep is very important, soI wouldn't like myself up at
4am, but I think there's usuallyat least an hour or two that
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most people could carve out intheir morning, and it does make
a big difference to you notfeeling like work is overcoming
your entire life, right?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yes, amen and I want to hold space for people.
I got this reel that got a lotof attention and sometimes it
was like people's beliefs.
But normally we see like the5am club and like at 5am and,
yes, that's great for some.
But for those of us who needextra healing time, especially
after trauma or you know you'regoing through, you know your own
(15:44):
like, you know healinginternally, you need more sleep,
and so I'm here to say that youdo not have to wake up at 5am
to be productive.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I just want to like I need to make a bumper sticker.
I mean, I love what you saidabout the fact that, like your
three, like most importantthings are right are eating,
movement and sleep.
I think you know my experiencewith my PCOS clientele has been,
and with myself, is that Ithink a lot of us do come from a
place of, you know, childhoodtrauma and those with PCOS have
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higher ACE scores on average,and so there's a lot of that
sort of like giving, giving,giving and never getting back
sort of vibe and we end up nottaking care of those three main
things, sleep being one of them.
Right, so we might get into the.
Somebody might be listening tous here and misinterpreting what
we're saying and thinking, OK,well, now, because I have, I
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need to have a morning routine.
So I need to wake up at 5am andI and I'm you know I can't get
to sleep till 11.
So I'm not going to get a fulleight hours.
Sleep needs to be part of thattime blocking right.
Yeah so I mean from a purelyfrom a health perspective.
You know, like you said, whenyou need extra time for healing,
when you have a chronic healthcondition, like usually those
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with PCOS, do need more sleep.
So at least eight, sometimeseven nine hours.
I mean I function better offnine hours if I can get it, if I
can make my body sleep thatlong.
You know, got to build it inright.
So, renee, tell us how we can,just give us some examples of
how we can reframe this conceptof like, care and work.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, I had to figure this out for myself and it took
a while because to me they feltlike so separate and even today
I'll have people still messageme and it's it's.
It's really interesting becauseI just I constantly blurt it
like so care first.
That's like what people know mefor.
I'm like so care first, but itfeels like so selfish and then,
especially like when you'reworking, like well, that's not
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really your time, right.
But some of the ways that I'vebegun to look at self care and
work, aka productivity is ismore through the lens of like.
So, not balance, but likeintegration.
Like how do you combine the two?
How can you be in the presentmoment and and check in with
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yourself, like as the observer,just kind of like watch your
energy as you go throughout theday and if you realize, like
after a meeting or talking foran hour, that you're spent like
can you take 10 minutes or 15minutes to walk away from the
computer or get a drink of wateror go look at a tree and
connect with nature?
You know those types of thingsLike it's important to realize
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that as we're working in our youknow in a corporate setting or
in our small businesses orentrepreneurship, that we are
the ones working.
It is still us.
If we, you know, the job wouldnot exist without us, our body,
mind and spirit there.
And so those are the thingsthat I've been like sitting with
and I'm always exploring, likewhat do you, what do you think
about that, amber?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
No, I mean that makes a lot of sense to me actually,
and I think I love the conceptof integration rather than
balance, because I mean,especially for people who are
entrepreneurs or they're smallbusiness owners, like there's
like the extra element of like Idon't want to say like
identification with your work,but like your, your, it's your
baby, your work is one of yourbabies and it's very important
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to you and it's it's a lot oftimes it's a passion project as
well.
And so to think of it as thissort of you know thing that's
draining me or this thing that Idon't love or need to take
space away from, I don't know,it doesn't feel authentic for a
lot of us who are in fields orpositions where we do really
like what we do.
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But, on the same token, youknow when you really like what
you do, sometimes you overdo itand you don't listen.
So I love that concept of justlike chen with yourself after a
meeting or one thing like that.
I mean I find that often for me, you know, different people,
different people's energyinteract with my energy
differently, and so sometimes Ileave a meeting feeling
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energized and refreshed, andsometimes I need to take half an
hour and kind of, you know,just go sit under my tree.
It's funny that she said that,because I do have a special tree
that I talk with.
Do you have a special tree?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I have, we have.
I'm in a new neighborhood so wehave like teeny tiny trees.
You guys built your house right.
We did yeah, yeah, oh everybody, that was a huge goal that I
set for myself that I achievedearly.
So you know, I am supergrateful, so I share that,
because it's not like, oh yeah,I have a brand new house.
No, it's like I really puteverything in motion and project
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plan for that.
So I want to hold space foreverybody who feels like maybe
they can't ever get a new house,Like it is very possible, it
really is a little bit aboutyour journey with, like limiting
beliefs around, well, money, Ithink, is one where I think
people often start with money.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I guess some of us, depending on how we were raised,
might have less limitingbeliefs around money than other
things, but, like you know, withPCOS, you know a lot of us have
really limiting beliefs aroundour health as well.
So I would love to hear yourexperience with, like your
confidence with, with differentthings like that.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, for us.
I don't think everybody hasasked me that before.
I have realized that I've beenholding on to three limiting
beliefs for the longest time andeverything's still a work in
progress.
It's just as we age or we getmore clear, it's just more
awareness right, and we're ableto catch ourselves.
So I don't ever want to everprescribe that I know the right
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answer or there's a fix toanything.
It's always a journey.
By the way, if I talk reallywoo-woo to everybody, I'm a
certified yoga teacher.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I'm so sure, I'm just noticing that.
Yeah, if you're noticing, like,why should you speak like that?
Yeah, because I've got a littleyogi to me.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
But three limiting beliefs that I was.
Oh gosh, they were so loud inmy head.
From my ego mind it was I don'thave enough energy, I can't do
that, I don't have enough time,I'll never have enough time.
And I don't have enough energyLike, oh wait, I said that I
don't have enough money.
I don't have enough money, Idon't have enough money, I don't
most particularly love.
(22:16):
Yeah, I know we got a like athing with that one Everybody in
tap on that.
So I don't have enough money, Ican't afford that.
I'll never make X amount.
And usually you know, as you'reprobably listening to me say
all this, like the core of it isis I'm not enough.
Right, there are so manylimiting beliefs, but for me
that's been the one that'salways plagued me.
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You know, I'm not enough ordon't shine too bright, right?
So as I've worked with mytherapists and lovely business
coaches, I've learned tounderstand my values, understand
my worth and my capabilities onthis planet.
And then now I actually teachmy clients how to budget their
energy, time and money and beaware of what those are and the
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limiting beliefs surroundingthat.
Because you know, just becausemine is like not enough, it
might show differently, you know, for you or somebody else.
And the way that I, inparticular, I've worked on those
things is like a lot ofjournaling.
And I mentioned meditation andyoga.
For me that was really pivotal,like my first ever was being a
yoga teacher, and so that's likereally I'm at the core is just
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kind of understanding that thereare ways to help heal people
from the inside out.
And so some of the things that Iasked my clients to do was,
like you know, every day, askyourself as you wake up, you
know, what is it that I needtoday?
You know, if your mind says,well, I don't have enough energy
, okay, well, it's one thing Ican do, you know, to replenish
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my energy and recharge mybattery.
Does that mean sleeping onemore hour?
Does that mean logging intowork late and not telling
anybody?
You know what does that mean?
Or I feel like I don't haveenough time, okay, can I take
off my plate?
Or who can I talk to and sharethat I'm overwhelmed about this
task or project, and so thatit's not so much about time,
it's just about, like, theworkload itself.
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And then I don't have enoughmoney.
Like to, and actuallybefriending your money and like
looking at it and looking at itright in the eye Okay, how much
debt do I have and what can Ibudget?
And actually almost turningthat around on its head a little
bit and feeling more intoabundance what do I have?
And getting out of that feelingof lack.
Right, because we sit in thislike lack and scarcity.
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When we're out of these threethings, right, so it's like,
okay, what do I have?
You know, I have this cellphone, or I have, you know, a
wonderful fiance, or I havefamily, or I have my son, or
Calvin.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Shout out to Calvin Shout out to Calvin, who likes
white flavor.
He went to get a snow cone atschool yesterday.
Calvin's three and a half andhis teachers took him for last
day of school to get a snow coneand all the other kids were
saying that they wanted, youknow, red or blue.
They asked Calvin what flavordo you want?
He said white, white flavor.
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So just an unusual little boy.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
He's funny, you can relate to him.
I'm going to go get some whiteflavor right after this.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I know Sounds good.
Po-co net, no, I, I, all ofthat is is really powerful, and
thank you for sharing all ofthat because I think I mean I've
gone through a similar journey.
I see a lot of negativity on,particularly on TikTok and I
think, because it's a an app,has more, has younger people on
(25:36):
it.
They still haven't kind ofworked out their own, you know,
beliefs around money.
I see a lot of like negativemoney talk on there oh you must
be rich, rich or like y'allnever have that, or too bad, I'm
poor, things like that.
And you know, I mean some of usdo come from difficult
circumstances or we are indifficult circumstances right
now, and that's totally real andvalid.
(25:57):
But you know, I think theconcept that has helped me a lot
is understanding that itdoesn't all have to be right now
, like I have time.
You know, like if I go back tomy 22-year-old self who thought
she was just dirt poor, I wouldnever make it anywhere, never do
anything and never, you know,shine brightly.
Like you said, be like justwait a little while.
(26:18):
Like I got into my 30s and mytime started coming around, you
know, and so you gotta bepatient with yourself, but I've
had to work a lot aroundconcepts of selfishness and
loveability and so you know alot of my work sort of, you know
, meshes in with that, like bodyimage issues and things like
(26:40):
that.
But also the concept like timeblocking was difficult for me at
first.
Boundaries was difficult for meand you know, like you said,
still work in progress becauseyou know I always fear that it's
selfish and if I'm selfish thenI won't be likable and if I'm
likable then I'm not lovable.
So you know we're all workingthrough different things and
it's okay to be at the beginning, it's okay to be in the thick
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of it, like you have time andyou need to block out some time
to make that time known.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
No, I love that.
I wrote this note down.
Amber gave me all thesequestions everybody, and so I'm
such a productivity geek.
I like to answer all thequestions, right.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
And.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I'm always going off books.
So you hit on something that Iwrote down that I'm so excited
to talk about, which is likeit's a journey, you know, kind
of almost like going back to ouryounger selves and saying, you
know, there's this from the Daoof Poo everybody.
It's just like a really cutebook that is on Daoism but it's
framed from the, you know, pooBear and Eor, like those
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characters.
The quote that I love fromthere is what's the rush?
What's the rush?
And so I wanted to hold spacefor everybody with that because,
you know, important that as wego on our journey, to say, like,
how can we savor this?
Like growth spurt that we're inand I truly, you know, this year
, one of my symbols for my goalsis a wave.
(28:08):
I truly believe that, likeeverything that we do in our
life, kind of like sometimes weneed more energy and sometimes
we require less energy, but weare empowered to decide how do
we want to show up, how do wewant to spend our time and
energy, what do we need to do torecharge and take care of
ourselves.
We get to choose that, which isso incredible.
So I just, you know, wanted tokind of piggyback on what you
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said, because I'm like, yeah,you're absolutely right.
And sometimes I wish I could goback to younger Renee and say
like, hey, girl, are we fine?
Like enjoy your life a littlebit.
You know, can you sell a bitmore, can you have more fun.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Or you know, like, let's tap it out you know, yeah,
for sure I wish I had had a tonmore fun than I did.
You know, I think I don't know,and this may be something
that's true for a lot of people,or it may be entrepreneurs
mostly, or something I don'tknow but the sort of concept of
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needing to achieve get frompoint A to point B really fast,
improve yourself and all of that, it's just like in the end you
get there one way or the otheranyway, like where you needed to
go and you should have funalong the way.
Like and I think that's truefor health too just to tie back
into nutrition, right, becauseso often we're very like,
(29:28):
compare ourselves to somebodywho's years ahead of us in our
journey with health andnutrition, and we think, oh gosh
, like that'll never be me, Ican never have that.
I'm so unhealthy right now, ormy body just doesn't cooperate,
it's out of control, I can't doanything about it.
Or, you know, I hate vegetables, I'll never get there to where
(29:48):
I can eat a salad, and thosesort of concepts are.
You know, it's important to lookat the deeper issues behind
them and kind of figure out like, well, why do we think those
things?
But also to just, you know,encourage you, be patient with
yourself.
Like my own history with foodand nutrition has been the 15
year journey, you know, and likeI, just the last, probably, I
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don't know five, six yearsactually.
Sometimes I'm like, wow, I'mcraving a salad.
You know, like, if you wouldhave told me that when I was 22,
I would have laughed in yourface because I could not even
eat a leaf of spinach withoutgagging.
So you know things like that.
And then the way that yourbody's functioning, whether your
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hormones are functioning right,like the changes that you're
making, however small they willbuild with time, like, and you
will get to a place where it'llall sort of make a lot more
sense.
You just kind of have to keepgoing and I think Renee's
concept of making self care,movement, exercise sorry,
(30:55):
movement, eating and sleepingpriorities is a nice way to
actually probably get therefaster, because when you focus
on those things, your bodyreally responds to that, you
know, physically no-transcript.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yes, in the productivity realm we call that
habits and consistency, and sothat's my sneaky way of sliding
this self-care into all things,productivity, because it's true,
and that's where I've seenexponential growth.
Like I just turned 40 everybodythis year I still look like I'm
25.
(31:31):
However, this is the best I'veever felt in my whole entire
life, Like I didn't feel thisgood in my 20s.
Honestly, you know.
And so and it's.
I'm really grateful for thethis journey that I've been on
and I've explored so much.
To Amber, Like right now I'mexploring the pre-moballic way
of eating.
I don't like to see dietanymore.
(31:52):
I'm way too restrictive and,again, we're choosing what we
want to put in our body at anygiven moment and we're making
the best decision for ourselvesat any given moment and I'm
enjoying, like this, and I didthe gluten-free thing.
You know my 20s and 30s and youknow, and that's all we're
doing.
We're just always exploring,figuring out what works best for
us as we go along.
(32:12):
And you know I've come to termswith okay, in my 50s I'm
probably going to do somethingelse, you know, because we're
just different, you know, yeah,and your body just with time,
and it has different needs withtime too.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
You have to adjust.
I've had to make so manyadjustments since, well, firstly
, coming to mom and then second,and I think even more so since
having a hysterectomy ufrectomy,because I'm in menopause, and
so my body behaves verydifferently around food,
movement, all those kinds ofthings that it used to, and you
know I'm a little young for that.
(32:43):
But here we are, so we'relearning to navigate it and it's
a whole new realm and,fortunately, because I had so
many what I would have perceivedin the past as failures, I know
that just because you know itdoesn't, something doesn't work
out, it doesn't mean that that'sa bad thing.
It's just, this was a learningopportunity.
(33:03):
I see everything that doesn'tgo exactly the way I envisioned
it as a learning opportunity andthat has really served me in my
life with, like, making goodout of, you know, situations
that could have been reallydifficult, still really
difficult, but anyway, that's alittle thing that I do, so let's
see.
Okay, well, let's talk aboutlittle baby nutritionists,
(33:25):
because there are quite a fewwho listen to this podcast and
they, you know, they want towhat I do now and I know back
when I was in my early days ofbeing nutritionists.
We're going on almost a decadenow, which is exciting.
I used to look up to a lot ofnutritionists who really seemed
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like they had their act togetherand they just like everything
was in place for them.
So what advice would you giveto somebody who's new to the
nutrition field or who'sthinking about getting into it,
thinking about becoming anentrepreneur?
Like, yeah, what advice wouldyou give them?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
First of all, I'd say yay, we need you.
The imposter syndrome tends tocome up for a lot of us, like in
the wellness field, like we'relike like well, there's enough
nutritionists, there's enoughyoga teachers, I'm like there
are, there are not.
It's just because we're hangingout with other people who are
interested in the same thing aswe are so it makes our world
seem smaller.
But first of all, people needyou Come on down, yeah.
Second of all, when you look atlike people like me and Amber,
(34:27):
you know, for instance, we aregoing to appear from the outside
Like we've got all of all ofthe nuts and bells, and you know
I'm getting all of my metaphorsmixed up right now but like
that we have it all together.
But the truth is I was like weare still learning to.
We're still having thosemoments of imposter syndrome,
like can we really do this, or Iwant to try this next thing, or
(34:48):
would it be okay if I changedmy mind and did something else?
You know, once you start yourbusiness, it it's almost like
you're just kind of signing anunspoken agreement with yourself
that you're just embracingchange for as long as you go on
the journey.
So that's one thing I want to,to just mention that change is
inevitable and success is isvery different.
(35:11):
It's one of the things that Iteach my clients.
It's not initially how youthink it's going to be.
So work with a coach.
I really believe working with acoach or mentor is going to
give you that shift inperspective and get you unstuck
in those moments that you'restuck because those can feel
super debilitating.
But there there's a way out, Ipromise.
And then, oh gosh, I hadsomething else.
(35:34):
Brilliant, another gym.
Oh, share it with us why was it?
Oh, it's like right there it youknow, like how it comes to the
forefront of your mind.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Oh yeah, that happens to me all the time.
If it comes to you, we can editit back in at the appropriate
time frame, don't worry.
Okay?
So if you guys just heard threegyms, then then I did my
editing.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Oh gosh Was that two Shoot.
Oh gosh, what'd I say?
Okay One, there's enough people.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Two change is inevitable, right, you said get
a coach or a mentor Three, sothat's three, okay.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
You had four.
I think there was a fourth one,but I'm glad I slid in.
The coach or mentor is tryingto secretly.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
The mentor one is is very true.
I I was not as well and, like Iremember, back in my you know
early days of being anutritionist, I had a another
nutritionist who mentored mequite a bit.
I worked inside her office andshe was actually the original
person who helped me figure outthis.
It was outright wise because,you know, a very, very] a fair
(36:40):
pricing schedule, becauseimposter syndrome was raging.
The concept that I was here tobe a helper and so I needed to,
like you know, basically just domy work for free, was very,
very big at that time for me.
And she was like you're notcharging enough.
People have to, you know.
You want clients who value whatyou do, and money is an
(37:05):
energetic exchange, you know.
And so, while I agree that thereare some sometimes when that
can get you know out of balance,or that you know it's health
care, private health care,things like nutrition do end up
being so expensive, it isimportant for me as a person to
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take care of myself and myfamily first and to make sure
that I am charging enough sothat I can do the amount of work
that I'm feasibly able to dowhile still caring for myself.
Because, if not, and this hashappened to me in the past.
I'll take on too much and thennobody gets the best of me right
.
They get like the 50% versionof ambers Not as good as the
(37:49):
100% version.
So that's how I operate now andyou know, she was the first
person to kind of tell me thatand plant that seed and if I
hadn't had that, my originalthought of like how much I was
going to charge per session waslike $25.
So very grateful to her becauseI would have definitely burned
(38:10):
out on nutrition within probablya year and I would probably be
doing something else right now.
So yeah, totally agree on thementor one.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yay, yay, let's give it up for mentors and a coach is
great too.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I mean honestly, probably wouldn't have been
better to have a business coacheven than a mentor, because then
with mentors you get into thewhole.
You know they have doing thingsand it's not always the best
way for you and but they're foryou right To kind of like help
the best way for yourself.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
So, yes, yes, we are.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
That's right.
Did you think of your gym?
No, I can't.
No, okay, no, it's all good,okay.
So, before we close up, whydon't you tell us about some of
the you know things that youhave on offer for people that
you know that you are excited toshare with us?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yes, so if you want to hang out with me, I am on
Instagram.
My handle is T H E, so the orthe on what side of the country
you're on in the US?
If you're here in the US,productive, which is P R O, d, u
, c, d, I, v, e Hopefully Ispelled that correctly and then
(39:18):
W, p, so that stands for theproductive wellness printer
coming out.
I've got some good tips that Ishare, and I'm also announcing
some free masterclasses and abeautiful four hour retreat, so
I do that twice a year.
I've got masterclasses that aretotally free four times a year,
so I'd love for you to come andjoin me and hang out, and if
(39:40):
you'd like to learn more abouttime blocking, I have a totally
free time blocking guide andwelcome video on my website,
which is wwwrenécom, and come ondown and join my clarity club
newsletter and I'll also sharedifferent like tips and tricks
on how to make sure that you'reputting yourself first, as
(40:03):
you're also digging into yoursmall business, if that serves
you.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
And I know I've been to one of Renee's masterclasses
and I get her newsletter.
She does a great job with bothof those.
She is very consistent and it'svery impressive how many
newsletters she sends out.
If you guys are on mynewsletter list, you know that
it's you know it's not.
I love yours when they come outthey're good and I'm not so
(40:30):
straight person to follow onlineher masterclass.
Like I love that she has somany free options, because I
think this you know kind ofstuff really resonates for
people of all in all positionsthose who own their own
businesses, but also people whoare just like busy and have a
lot going on and just want tokind of figure out, like what is
really important to me, wherecan I subtract, where can I add?
(40:52):
Like how can I get everythingblocked?
So wonderful, we will haveeverything linked in the
description box to her websiteand her Instagram and everything
.
If you guys want to just clickon those below and if you're
watching on YouTube, thank youfor watching us and if you're
listening, thank you forlistening and you have anything
(41:14):
else you want to add before weclose up?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Renee I think it's just that, no matter where you
are in your life, like you arewhere you're meant to be, you
know.
So whether you, you know, are afull time parent or parenting
an older relative, or you'repursuing your entrepreneurship,
or you're going to school, oryou've been in your small
business for a few years, youknow, just just keep going.
(41:37):
We need you and need to be ashealthy and as vibrant as
possible to show up and do thebeautiful things in your life
that you're meant to do.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
I love that.
That's absolutely true.
I 100% agree.
Well, thank you for being heretoday, renee, and we will talk
to you again another time, I amsure.
Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Bye, everybody, thank you.
Welcome back everybody.
I'm very excited today We'vegot a great guest.
We have Renee Claire of ReneeClaire Consulting.
Hi, renee, hey, and we're gonnatalk to us today about we're
gonna go over several things.
We're gonna talk about servingenergy time, blocking self-care.
We're gonna talk a little bitabout some stuff for those of
(00:25):
you who are self-employedentrepreneurs or you run small
businesses, because Renee has alot of expertise there and she's
actually helped me quite a bitwith my business in the past as
well, and we are going to focusa lot of our attention today on
some of the things that shereally shines at and does best
(00:45):
at, which is helping peoplepreserve their energy so that
they have enough to give toothers, and I think these
lessons are applicable to a lotof us.
We are gonna talk specificallyabout some stuff with PCOS as
well, with this.
So, renee, tell us about youand introduce yourself for us.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Hi everybody.
I'm so glad to be back hereagain.
It's been like a hot minute,but I'm it's such an honor.
So hey, as Amber said, my nameis Renee, last name is Claire.
I'm a productivity consultant.
I've been helping women who arein the growth stage of their
small businesses, who feeloverwhelmed, disorganized,
(01:22):
chaotic and the big whammy.
They feel like they can'tbreathe.
You know, if this is you, I cantotally relate.
I've been there too.
I help women to determine ifit's time to hire help so they
can offload tasks that just feelsuper draining.
I teach them how to train theirteam.
I know sometimes it can feeloverwhelming or like you feel
(01:44):
alone, like you don't know whoto talk to about that kind of
stuff.
And of course, my cornerstoneis time management.
I love teaching people timeblocking techniques and putting
themselves first with timemanagement.
I know I geek out on processand project management, so like
planning your projects, and thenI really excel in marketing and
sales strategy.
(02:05):
I've been working as a projectmanager in the marketing area
for the wellness industry Goshfor like over three years now.
It's pretty incredible.
And then I love holding spacefor people to break their
limiting beliefs and, you know,break beyond thinking that they
aren't worth more or can't makea certain amount of money.
So I really love helping womento make their first 100k.
(02:28):
So it's really rewarding tojust be there and be a source of
light and show people how theycan shine their light brighter.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, I love that.
That is exactly what you do.
Renee helped me quite a bit atthe in the early days of my work
, when I was transitioning tobeing totally virtual and doing
more online work and moreeducation work and stuff like
that to figure out how to reallybalance out my needs as a
(02:57):
person with my sort of desire toshare all of this stuff with
the world and limiting beliefsabout money as well and how much
money I should charge for myservices and things like that.
So we did a lot of work backthen.
That has served me very wellover the years and I've built
off of a lot of it and verygrateful for the help that she
gave me back then.
(03:17):
When was that that we workedtogether?
That was like what?
20 maybe, I think.
So it's been a while ago, butyou know, I still am
implementing a lot of the stuffthat we sort of solidified back
then.
Before I met Renee, I wasalready kind of trying to figure
out like what does that looklike to time block as an
(03:39):
entrepreneur?
How do I protect my peace,protect my energy?
How can I like chargeappropriately so that I'm making
enough money to support myselfto where I have time for myself
to you know, and just likegetting out of this idea that it
always has to be more and moreso, anyway, very grateful for
all that.
So let's talk a little bitabout this stuff.
(03:59):
So tell us about what is timeblocking?
First of all, like people areprobably listening, like so what
is that?
and how can we use it as a toolfor not just our businesses but
our health and wellness?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
So I started off time blocking well before I was even
I even considered myself aproductivity consultant.
I actually didn't know what Iwanted to do with my life.
So let me take you back wayback, everybody, to 2015, 2016,
when I realized that my marriagewas over.
So it was like rock bottom timeand I'm going to my therapist
(04:36):
and I'm telling her everythingthat I'm doing and I'm saying I
don't know why I'm tired, Idon't know why I'm run down, I
don't know I have energy.
I don't have energy foranything.
And my people, my friends, aregetting mad at me, as well as my
coworkers.
And she's like Okay, tell mewhat's going on in a week.
And so I did.
I was told her I wasaccidentally double and triple,
booking meetings or outings withfriends.
(04:57):
I was working myself like more.
I was working probably 50 to 80hours at that time and adding
in extracurricular activities.
And in order to do all that, Iwasn't choosing to sleep and I
wasn't choosing to eat and Iwasn't choosing to exercise.
So this wonderful therapist ofmine was like Okay, Renee, it's
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time you need to write downexactly what you're doing and
you need to focus on these bigthree things.
And I was like what are those?
And this is like what I preachand tell people every day today.
The three things that you needto make as a priority are eating
, sleeping and moving, and ifyou do those, then you're having
a successful life.
And I couldn't even fathom itbecause I was like, Well, isn't
(05:41):
my job to show up for otherpeople and work?
and, you know, drive myself intothe ground in order to support
other people and she's like no,your life is about you.
And I was secretly covering upthe pain, you know, and the
failure, right, feeling like atotal, like failure from my
marriage.
And I don't know why I'm stillgetting emotional about it, you
(06:01):
know, because I know I'm nowhappily engaged.
There's a happy ending to thisstory?
Yes, so how does that relate totime blocking?
Time blocking means justchunking your time and focusing
on a task or a group of similartasks, and so the way that I
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figured out was important for mewas that I needed to create at
least two to three hours tofocus on myself care.
For me, that meant in themorning, right, so I was
developing a really routine, andthen at night, like making sure
I was going to bed at areasonable hour so I could get
my, and I literally have to haveeight hours of sleep.
Everybody, or I'm just likereally cranky and hangry
throughout the day.
(06:43):
I think we all need that, yeah,and I'm not thinking it sounds
like so, like cryptic and weird.
There's actually Elon Musk.
I read an article on him and hetime blocks in five minutes.
You all, and for me I've triedto do 15 minute, five minute
time box.
I will tell you, as a woman, itdoesn't work.
We have to leave room fordistractions and the kids
(07:04):
popping in and, you know, ourfriends to call, or for us to
have like a squirrel momentwhere we look out the window and
pay attention to something elseyou know, or we get that fun
Instagram reel popping up on ourphone yeah, Five minute time.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Boxes cuckoo bananas.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I mean, I guess it works for them.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I could never yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I don't know.
I'm like I do wonder if it'slike a masculine, you know thing
and it could work for some likewomen who have like a little
bit more masculine than them.
Those are the things that Isuggested.
People start off with yourmorning routine.
So time block, you know youhave a good three hour nurturing
time block and focus on likethree things you can do for
yourself, care and for me.
(07:44):
You know, I just said the topthree.
So this morning, for example, Iwalked, I had a really nice,
lovely like breakfast.
That's 500 calories.
I'm working on macronutrientsright now.
And then I've been meditatingfor years for about 20 minutes a
day, but lately I've come backto technique called EFT or
tapping, and I find that that isjust really like catapulting,
(08:08):
you know me forward and gettingout of these like the yuckiness
or pressure anxiety a littlemore quickly.
Is that helpful?
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Yeah, that's great.
No, I love that.
That makes a lot of sense and Ithink to illustrate kind of the
way that I do it, because I domaybe a little bit differently,
but I have blocks of time whereI see clients sort of all at
once.
What I have changed over theyears is that I used to try to
block all my appointments andclient facing work on the same
(08:40):
like two days of the week andjust kind of knock it all out so
that I could rest the rest ofthe week.
And what I realized over timeis really a more of a balance
with my schedule actually workedbetter for me.
And as I worked on boundarieswith myself and how much, how
much unnecessary energy I wasgiving just out of a place of
(09:01):
like people pleasing Once Iworked on a lot of that, I
realized that I didn't reallyneed to shove everything onto
one day of the week so that Icould recover all the rest of
the week.
So now I just, you know I havesome clients, some blocks in the
morning where I do, I have likeabout three hours, like you, in
the morning where I'm, you know, lucky enough, I don't have to
(09:24):
go into an office, so I get tomake my own schedule and I take
that time for myself feed mysourdough starter, go out and do
the, go out and check on mygarden, you know, do all the
things that I love to do.
That's kind of my meditation,and that usually happens before
my son wakes up and I get himready, get him off where he
needs to go, then I'll see acouple of clients for the day
(09:45):
and then I take, you know, theafternoon and the evening unless
I'm teaching or something likethat for exercise.
I pull dance now and so I willgo to my pole classes and the
afternoons and, you know, comeback, make food for my family,
all that kind of stuff.
So my life has, because of theconcept of time blocks, I have
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developed this ability to haveso much more time just for me
and to not feel guilty about itbecause I know that everything
will get done in a reasonabletimeframe.
And it's helped give mepermission to say you know what?
I don't need to show up everysecond of every day for
everybody else's needs.
(10:32):
Like people can wait a day.
You think it would be 24 hoursfor an answer, or you know what
have you, whereas before, when Ididn't have time blocks, it was
like everything felt urgent.
You know, it also helped merealize when I was out growing
my own ability to run my ownbusiness and I needed help.
And so now I have two employees, which is awesome, and they
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helped me with a lot ofdifferent things.
Shout out Linnea and Dora.
So those are all things thattime blocking has helped me with
.
So I think you've never donethis before.
I know some people work likenine to five, so what would you
tell them if they worked like anine to five job?
How would they manage timeblocking in that sort of
scenario?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Actually, what my heart like, it's like someone
can like, can really like in anembody.
I call it embody productivity,right, like?
Call it body yoga, bodymovement and body productivity,
so that it's like interior lifeand you are doing that and it's
not perfect.
It's not a perfect system.
Everybody like what.
Teach people time blocking.
People have this kind ofconcept of like.
(11:34):
Once I said it, then that's itand it can't change.
Well, the actually it's likeorganic it changes with you and
it changes as you grow yourbusiness or you change in your
life, or there's a new season ora new kid or you know, like an
elderly parent you need to takecare of.
There's so many things about itthat are really fantastic, and
I love how you found thatintegration and you said the
(11:56):
keyword at the beginning.
There it's it's of using thistime blocking technique for
boundaries right, and I startedoff showing that this is
boundaries for other people, butreally, at the end of the day,
it's boundaries for yourself.
It's learning what you will andwon't do and learning that it's
okay and that you can acceptyourself and accept your life as
(12:18):
you want to live it in anygiven moment.
And so I just wanted tohighlight that and just say
thank you.
And then, for nine to fiveyears been there.
So the first time that I appliedthis, I had a full time job,
and so I focused on my morningroutine, so my morning time
block.
And then I focused on a lunchtime block, either 30 minutes to
an hour, just reallydisconnecting from work and
(12:41):
figuring out like a walk.
If I was able to do that,sometimes it's not possible
during the hot Texas summer, soI might like find a little look
to read or just talk to a friendor get a cup of coffee or
something and after work, reallynice wind down time block.
So like things, you enjoy it.
Maybe you don't like movementin the morning and it works
(13:03):
better for you in the afternoon.
Maybe that's the time you do it, or maybe you do some food prep
or cook, you know those kindsof things.
And then a really nice likeevening routine where you maybe
disconnect from technology whichI know is really, really tough
in our day and age and see like,oh God, I just got it from my
phone but then we got it likethat Right.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Well, it's hard.
I mean, it is hard so much ofwhat we do, especially if you
are like a small business owner.
A lot of what you do is usuallyon your phone too, so it is
really difficult, like some ways, I think it's more difficult
for me to not be on my phonethan the average person, because
you know there's alwayssomething to do on there, but
then, on the other hand, it'seasier in some ways, because to
(13:45):
me, I associate my phone withwork, whereas other people, I
think, associate their phonewith fun and with, like you know
, winding down or relaxing orwhatever.
When I go on TikTok or I go onInstagram, it's not relaxing
experience for me it's more likeI have all these DMs I need to
like reply to or whatever, andso I made like dummy accounts
(14:06):
for myself so I could have justlike a normal social media
experience.
But also I started implementingthis concept that I saw on
TikTok, which is low dopaminemornings.
Have you heard of this?
No, tell me.
So it's like I'm concept, well,the similar concept to your
morning routine, but it's theidea that in the morning you
sort of don't do anything that'sgoing to give you a huge boost
(14:30):
of dopamine, like getting on,you know social media, and you
spend that time, you know,creating sort of a routine
that's a little bit more calm,you know semi-structured, like
meditation, like you do, youknow looking at the getting some
sunlight on your skin, allthose kinds of things that are
good for circadian rhythm andthat really serves you the rest
(14:51):
of the day and that has beenreally helpful for my focus,
actually.
Yes, so I like the concept ofyou know, when you're working a
nine to five, having that timein the morning, although you
know sleep is very important, soI wouldn't like myself up at
4am, but I think there's usuallyat least an hour or two that
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most people could carve out intheir morning, and it does make
a big difference to you notfeeling like work is overcoming
your entire life, right?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yes, amen and I want to hold space for people.
I got this reel that got a lotof attention and sometimes it
was like people's beliefs.
But normally we see like the5am club and like at 5am and,
yes, that's great for some.
But for those of us who needextra healing time, especially
after trauma or you know you'regoing through, you know your own
(15:44):
like, you know healinginternally, you need more sleep,
and so I'm here to say that youdo not have to wake up at 5am
to be productive.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I just want to like I need to make a bumper sticker.
I mean, I love what you saidabout the fact that, like your
three, like most importantthings are right are eating,
movement and sleep.
I think you know my experiencewith my PCOS clientele has been,
and with myself, is that Ithink a lot of us do come from a
place of, you know, childhoodtrauma and those with PCOS have
(16:16):
higher ACE scores on average,and so there's a lot of that
sort of like giving, giving,giving and never getting back
sort of vibe and we end up nottaking care of those three main
things, sleep being one of them.
Right, so we might get into the.
Somebody might be listening tous here and misinterpreting what
we're saying and thinking, OK,well, now, because I have, I
(16:40):
need to have a morning routine.
So I need to wake up at 5am andI and I'm you know I can't get
to sleep till 11.
So I'm not going to get a fulleight hours.
Sleep needs to be part of thattime blocking right.
Yeah so I mean from a purelyfrom a health perspective.
You know, like you said, whenyou need extra time for healing,
when you have a chronic healthcondition, like usually those
(17:04):
with PCOS, do need more sleep.
So at least eight, sometimeseven nine hours.
I mean I function better offnine hours if I can get it, if I
can make my body sleep thatlong.
You know, got to build it inright.
So, renee, tell us how we can,just give us some examples of
how we can reframe this conceptof like, care and work.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, I had to figure this out for myself and it took
a while because to me they feltlike so separate and even today
I'll have people still messageme and it's it's.
It's really interesting becauseI just I constantly blurt it
like so care first.
That's like what people know mefor.
I'm like so care first, but itfeels like so selfish and then,
especially like when you'reworking, like well, that's not
(17:50):
really your time, right.
But some of the ways that I'vebegun to look at self care and
work, aka productivity is ismore through the lens of like.
So, not balance, but likeintegration.
Like how do you combine the two?
How can you be in the presentmoment and and check in with
(18:13):
yourself, like as the observer,just kind of like watch your
energy as you go throughout theday and if you realize, like
after a meeting or talking foran hour, that you're spent like
can you take 10 minutes or 15minutes to walk away from the
computer or get a drink of wateror go look at a tree and
connect with nature?
You know those types of thingsLike it's important to realize
(18:36):
that as we're working in our youknow in a corporate setting or
in our small businesses orentrepreneurship, that we are
the ones working.
It is still us.
If we, you know, the job wouldnot exist without us, our body,
mind and spirit there.
And so those are the thingsthat I've been like sitting with
and I'm always exploring, likewhat do you, what do you think
about that, amber?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
No, I mean that makes a lot of sense to me actually,
and I think I love the conceptof integration rather than
balance, because I mean,especially for people who are
entrepreneurs or they're smallbusiness owners, like there's
like the extra element of like Idon't want to say like
identification with your work,but like your, your, it's your
baby, your work is one of yourbabies and it's very important
(19:17):
to you and it's it's a lot oftimes it's a passion project as
well.
And so to think of it as thissort of you know thing that's
draining me or this thing that Idon't love or need to take
space away from, I don't know,it doesn't feel authentic for a
lot of us who are in fields orpositions where we do really
like what we do.
(19:38):
But, on the same token, youknow when you really like what
you do, sometimes you overdo itand you don't listen.
So I love that concept of justlike chen with yourself after a
meeting or one thing like that.
I mean I find that often for me, you know, different people,
different people's energyinteract with my energy
differently, and so sometimes Ileave a meeting feeling
(20:01):
energized and refreshed, andsometimes I need to take half an
hour and kind of, you know,just go sit under my tree.
It's funny that she said that,because I do have a special tree
that I talk with.
Do you have a special tree?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
I have, we have.
I'm in a new neighborhood so wehave like teeny tiny trees.
You guys built your house right.
We did yeah, yeah, oh everybody, that was a huge goal that I
set for myself that I achievedearly.
So you know, I am supergrateful, so I share that,
because it's not like, oh yeah,I have a brand new house.
No, it's like I really puteverything in motion and project
(20:39):
plan for that.
So I want to hold space foreverybody who feels like maybe
they can't ever get a new house,Like it is very possible, it
really is a little bit aboutyour journey with, like limiting
beliefs around, well, money, Ithink, is one where I think
people often start with money.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I guess some of us, depending on how we were raised,
might have less limitingbeliefs around money than other
things, but, like you know, withPCOS, you know a lot of us have
really limiting beliefs aroundour health as well.
So I would love to hear yourexperience with, like your
confidence with, with differentthings like that.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah, for us.
I don't think everybody hasasked me that before.
I have realized that I've beenholding on to three limiting
beliefs for the longest time andeverything's still a work in
progress.
It's just as we age or we getmore clear, it's just more
awareness right, and we're ableto catch ourselves.
So I don't ever want to everprescribe that I know the right
(21:38):
answer or there's a fix toanything.
It's always a journey.
By the way, if I talk reallywoo-woo to everybody, I'm a
certified yoga teacher.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I'm so sure, I'm just noticing that.
Yeah, if you're noticing, like,why should you speak like that?
Yeah, because I've got a littleyogi to me.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
But three limiting beliefs that I was.
Oh gosh, they were so loud inmy head.
From my ego mind it was I don'thave enough energy, I can't do
that, I don't have enough time,I'll never have enough time.
And I don't have enough energyLike, oh wait, I said that I
don't have enough money.
I don't have enough money, Idon't have enough money, I don't
most particularly love.
(22:16):
Yeah, I know we got a like athing with that one Everybody in
tap on that.
So I don't have enough money, Ican't afford that.
I'll never make X amount.
And usually you know, as you'reprobably listening to me say
all this, like the core of it isis I'm not enough.
Right, there are so manylimiting beliefs, but for me
that's been the one that'salways plagued me.
(22:36):
You know, I'm not enough ordon't shine too bright, right?
So as I've worked with mytherapists and lovely business
coaches, I've learned tounderstand my values, understand
my worth and my capabilities onthis planet.
And then now I actually teachmy clients how to budget their
energy, time and money and beaware of what those are and the
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limiting beliefs surroundingthat.
Because you know, just becausemine is like not enough, it
might show differently, you know, for you or somebody else.
And the way that I, inparticular, I've worked on those
things is like a lot ofjournaling.
And I mentioned meditation andyoga.
For me that was really pivotal,like my first ever was being a
yoga teacher, and so that's likereally I'm at the core is just
(23:23):
kind of understanding that thereare ways to help heal people
from the inside out.
And so some of the things that Iasked my clients to do was,
like you know, every day, askyourself as you wake up, you
know, what is it that I needtoday?
You know, if your mind says,well, I don't have enough energy
, okay, well, it's one thing Ican do, you know, to replenish
(23:43):
my energy and recharge mybattery.
Does that mean sleeping onemore hour?
Does that mean logging intowork late and not telling
anybody?
You know what does that mean?
Or I feel like I don't haveenough time, okay, can I take
off my plate?
Or who can I talk to and sharethat I'm overwhelmed about this
task or project, and so thatit's not so much about time,
it's just about, like, theworkload itself.
(24:06):
And then I don't have enoughmoney.
Like to, and actuallybefriending your money and like
looking at it and looking at itright in the eye Okay, how much
debt do I have and what can Ibudget?
And actually almost turningthat around on its head a little
bit and feeling more intoabundance what do I have?
And getting out of that feelingof lack.
Right, because we sit in thislike lack and scarcity.
(24:28):
When we're out of these threethings, right, so it's like,
okay, what do I have?
You know, I have this cellphone, or I have, you know, a
wonderful fiance, or I havefamily, or I have my son, or
Calvin.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Shout out to Calvin Shout out to Calvin, who likes
white flavor.
He went to get a snow cone atschool yesterday.
Calvin's three and a half andhis teachers took him for last
day of school to get a snow coneand all the other kids were
saying that they wanted, youknow, red or blue.
They asked Calvin what flavordo you want?
He said white, white flavor.
(25:03):
So just an unusual little boy.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
He's funny, you can relate to him.
I'm going to go get some whiteflavor right after this.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I know Sounds good.
Po-co net, no, I, I, all ofthat is is really powerful, and
thank you for sharing all ofthat because I think I mean I've
gone through a similar journey.
I see a lot of negativity on,particularly on TikTok and I
think, because it's a an app,has more, has younger people on
(25:36):
it.
They still haven't kind ofworked out their own, you know,
beliefs around money.
I see a lot of like negativemoney talk on there oh you must
be rich, rich or like y'allnever have that, or too bad, I'm
poor, things like that.
And you know, I mean some of usdo come from difficult
circumstances or we are indifficult circumstances right
now, and that's totally real andvalid.
(25:57):
But you know, I think theconcept that has helped me a lot
is understanding that itdoesn't all have to be right now
, like I have time.
You know, like if I go back tomy 22-year-old self who thought
she was just dirt poor, I wouldnever make it anywhere, never do
anything and never, you know,shine brightly.
Like you said, be like justwait a little while.
(26:18):
Like I got into my 30s and mytime started coming around, you
know, and so you gotta bepatient with yourself, but I've
had to work a lot aroundconcepts of selfishness and
loveability and so you know alot of my work sort of, you know
, meshes in with that, like bodyimage issues and things like
(26:40):
that.
But also the concept like timeblocking was difficult for me at
first.
Boundaries was difficult for meand you know, like you said,
still work in progress becauseyou know I always fear that it's
selfish and if I'm selfish thenI won't be likable and if I'm
likable then I'm not lovable.
So you know we're all workingthrough different things and
it's okay to be at the beginning, it's okay to be in the thick
(27:03):
of it, like you have time andyou need to block out some time
to make that time known.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
No, I love that.
I wrote this note down.
Amber gave me all thesequestions everybody, and so I'm
such a productivity geek.
I like to answer all thequestions, right.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
And.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I'm always going off books.
So you hit on something that Iwrote down that I'm so excited
to talk about, which is likeit's a journey, you know, kind
of almost like going back to ouryounger selves and saying, you
know, there's this from the Daoof Poo everybody.
It's just like a really cutebook that is on Daoism but it's
framed from the, you know, pooBear and Eor, like those
(27:45):
characters.
The quote that I love fromthere is what's the rush?
What's the rush?
And so I wanted to hold spacefor everybody with that because,
you know, important that as wego on our journey, to say, like,
how can we savor this?
Like growth spurt that we're inand I truly, you know, this year
, one of my symbols for my goalsis a wave.
(28:08):
I truly believe that, likeeverything that we do in our
life, kind of like sometimes weneed more energy and sometimes
we require less energy, but weare empowered to decide how do
we want to show up, how do wewant to spend our time and
energy, what do we need to do torecharge and take care of
ourselves.
We get to choose that, which isso incredible.
So I just, you know, wanted tokind of piggyback on what you
(28:32):
said, because I'm like, yeah,you're absolutely right.
And sometimes I wish I could goback to younger Renee and say
like, hey, girl, are we fine?
Like enjoy your life a littlebit.
You know, can you sell a bitmore, can you have more fun.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Or you know, like, let's tap it out you know, yeah,
for sure I wish I had had a tonmore fun than I did.
You know, I think I don't know,and this may be something
that's true for a lot of people,or it may be entrepreneurs
mostly, or something I don'tknow but the sort of concept of
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needing to achieve get frompoint A to point B really fast,
improve yourself and all of that, it's just like in the end you
get there one way or the otheranyway, like where you needed to
go and you should have funalong the way.
Like and I think that's truefor health too just to tie back
into nutrition, right, becauseso often we're very like,
(29:28):
compare ourselves to somebodywho's years ahead of us in our
journey with health andnutrition, and we think, oh gosh
, like that'll never be me, Ican never have that.
I'm so unhealthy right now, ormy body just doesn't cooperate,
it's out of control, I can't doanything about it.
Or, you know, I hate vegetables, I'll never get there to where
(29:48):
I can eat a salad, and thosesort of concepts are.
You know, it's important to lookat the deeper issues behind
them and kind of figure out like, well, why do we think those
things?
But also to just, you know,encourage you, be patient with
yourself.
Like my own history with foodand nutrition has been the 15
year journey, you know, and likeI, just the last, probably, I
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don't know five, six yearsactually.
Sometimes I'm like, wow, I'mcraving a salad.
You know, like, if you wouldhave told me that when I was 22,
I would have laughed in yourface because I could not even
eat a leaf of spinach withoutgagging.
So you know things like that.
And then the way that yourbody's functioning, whether your
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hormones are functioning right,like the changes that you're
making, however small they willbuild with time, like, and you
will get to a place where it'llall sort of make a lot more
sense.
You just kind of have to keepgoing and I think Renee's
concept of making self care,movement, exercise sorry,
(30:55):
movement, eating and sleepingpriorities is a nice way to
actually probably get therefaster, because when you focus
on those things, your bodyreally responds to that, you
know, physically no-transcript.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yes, in the productivity realm we call that
habits and consistency, and sothat's my sneaky way of sliding
this self-care into all things,productivity, because it's true,
and that's where I've seenexponential growth.
Like I just turned 40 everybodythis year I still look like I'm
25.
(31:31):
However, this is the best I'veever felt in my whole entire
life, Like I didn't feel thisgood in my 20s.
Honestly, you know.
And so and it's.
I'm really grateful for thethis journey that I've been on
and I've explored so much.
To Amber, Like right now I'mexploring the pre-moballic way
of eating.
I don't like to see dietanymore.
(31:52):
I'm way too restrictive and,again, we're choosing what we
want to put in our body at anygiven moment and we're making
the best decision for ourselvesat any given moment and I'm
enjoying, like this, and I didthe gluten-free thing.
You know my 20s and 30s and youknow, and that's all we're
doing.
We're just always exploring,figuring out what works best for
us as we go along.
(32:12):
And you know I've come to termswith okay, in my 50s I'm
probably going to do somethingelse, you know, because we're
just different, you know, yeah,and your body just with time,
and it has different needs withtime too.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
You have to adjust.
I've had to make so manyadjustments since, well, firstly
, coming to mom and then second,and I think even more so since
having a hysterectomy ufrectomy,because I'm in menopause, and
so my body behaves verydifferently around food,
movement, all those kinds ofthings that it used to, and you
know I'm a little young for that.
(32:43):
But here we are, so we'relearning to navigate it and it's
a whole new realm and,fortunately, because I had so
many what I would have perceivedin the past as failures, I know
that just because you know itdoesn't, something doesn't work
out, it doesn't mean that that'sa bad thing.
It's just, this was a learningopportunity.
(33:03):
I see everything that doesn'tgo exactly the way I envisioned
it as a learning opportunity andthat has really served me in my
life with, like, making goodout of, you know, situations
that could have been reallydifficult, still really
difficult, but anyway, that's alittle thing that I do, so let's
see.
Okay, well, let's talk aboutlittle baby nutritionists,
(33:25):
because there are quite a fewwho listen to this podcast and
they, you know, they want towhat I do now and I know back
when I was in my early days ofbeing nutritionists.
We're going on almost a decadenow, which is exciting.
I used to look up to a lot ofnutritionists who really seemed
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like they had their act togetherand they just like everything
was in place for them.
So what advice would you giveto somebody who's new to the
nutrition field or who'sthinking about getting into it,
thinking about becoming anentrepreneur?
Like, yeah, what advice wouldyou give them?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
First of all, I'd say yay, we need you.
The imposter syndrome tends tocome up for a lot of us, like in
the wellness field, like we'relike like well, there's enough
nutritionists, there's enoughyoga teachers, I'm like there
are, there are not.
It's just because we're hangingout with other people who are
interested in the same thing aswe are so it makes our world
seem smaller.
But first of all, people needyou Come on down, yeah.
Second of all, when you look atlike people like me and Amber,
(34:27):
you know, for instance, we aregoing to appear from the outside
Like we've got all of all ofthe nuts and bells, and you know
I'm getting all of my metaphorsmixed up right now but like
that we have it all together.
But the truth is I was like weare still learning to.
We're still having thosemoments of imposter syndrome,
like can we really do this, or Iwant to try this next thing, or
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would it be okay if I changedmy mind and did something else?
You know, once you start yourbusiness, it it's almost like
you're just kind of signing anunspoken agreement with yourself
that you're just embracingchange for as long as you go on
the journey.
So that's one thing I want to,to just mention that change is
inevitable and success is isvery different.
(35:11):
It's one of the things that Iteach my clients.
It's not initially how youthink it's going to be.
So work with a coach.
I really believe working with acoach or mentor is going to
give you that shift inperspective and get you unstuck
in those moments that you'restuck because those can feel
super debilitating.
But there there's a way out, Ipromise.
And then, oh gosh, I hadsomething else.
(35:34):
Brilliant, another gym.
Oh, share it with us why was it?
Oh, it's like right there it youknow, like how it comes to the
forefront of your mind.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Oh yeah, that happens to me all the time.
If it comes to you, we can editit back in at the appropriate
time frame, don't worry.
Okay?
So if you guys just heard threegyms, then then I did my
editing.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Oh gosh Was that two Shoot.
Oh gosh, what'd I say?
Okay One, there's enough people.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Two change is inevitable, right, you said get
a coach or a mentor Three, sothat's three, okay.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
You had four.
I think there was a fourth one,but I'm glad I slid in.
The coach or mentor is tryingto secretly.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
The mentor one is is very true.
I I was not as well and, like Iremember, back in my you know
early days of being anutritionist, I had a another
nutritionist who mentored mequite a bit.
I worked inside her office andshe was actually the original
person who helped me figure outthis.
It was outright wise because,you know, a very, very] a fair
(36:40):
pricing schedule, becauseimposter syndrome was raging.
The concept that I was here tobe a helper and so I needed to,
like you know, basically just domy work for free, was very,
very big at that time for me.
And she was like you're notcharging enough.
People have to, you know.
You want clients who value whatyou do, and money is an
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energetic exchange, you know.
And so, while I agree that thereare some sometimes when that
can get you know out of balance,or that you know it's health
care, private health care,things like nutrition do end up
being so expensive, it isimportant for me as a person to
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take care of myself and myfamily first and to make sure
that I am charging enough sothat I can do the amount of work
that I'm feasibly able to dowhile still caring for myself.
Because, if not, and this hashappened to me in the past.
I'll take on too much and thennobody gets the best of me right
.
They get like the 50% versionof ambers Not as good as the
(37:49):
100% version.
So that's how I operate now andyou know, she was the first
person to kind of tell me thatand plant that seed and if I
hadn't had that, my originalthought of like how much I was
going to charge per session waslike $25.
So very grateful to her becauseI would have definitely burned
(38:10):
out on nutrition within probablya year and I would probably be
doing something else right now.
So yeah, totally agree on thementor one.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yay, yay, let's give it up for mentors and a coach is
great too.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I mean honestly, probably wouldn't have been
better to have a business coacheven than a mentor, because then
with mentors you get into thewhole.
You know they have doing thingsand it's not always the best
way for you and but they're foryou right To kind of like help
the best way for yourself.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
So, yes, yes, we are.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
That's right.
Did you think of your gym?
No, I can't.
No, okay, no, it's all good,okay.
So, before we close up, whydon't you tell us about some of
the you know things that youhave on offer for people that
you know that you are excited toshare with us?
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yes, so if you want to hang out with me, I am on
Instagram.
My handle is T H E, so the orthe on what side of the country
you're on in the US?
If you're here in the US,productive, which is P R O, d, u
, c, d, I, v, e Hopefully Ispelled that correctly and then
(39:18):
W, p, so that stands for theproductive wellness printer
coming out.
I've got some good tips that Ishare, and I'm also announcing
some free masterclasses and abeautiful four hour retreat, so
I do that twice a year.
I've got masterclasses that aretotally free four times a year,
so I'd love for you to come andjoin me and hang out, and if
(39:40):
you'd like to learn more abouttime blocking, I have a totally
free time blocking guide andwelcome video on my website,
which is wwwrenécom, and come ondown and join my clarity club
newsletter and I'll also sharedifferent like tips and tricks
on how to make sure that you'reputting yourself first, as
(40:03):
you're also digging into yoursmall business, if that serves
you.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
And I know I've been to one of Renee's masterclasses
and I get her newsletter.
She does a great job with bothof those.
She is very consistent and it'svery impressive how many
newsletters she sends out.
If you guys are on mynewsletter list, you know that
it's you know it's not.
I love yours when they come outthey're good and I'm not so
(40:30):
straight person to follow onlineher masterclass.
Like I love that she has somany free options, because I
think this you know kind ofstuff really resonates for
people of all in all positionsthose who own their own
businesses, but also people whoare just like busy and have a
lot going on and just want tokind of figure out, like what is
really important to me, wherecan I subtract, where can I add?
(40:52):
Like how can I get everythingblocked?
So wonderful, we will haveeverything linked in the
description box to her websiteand her Instagram and everything
.
If you guys want to just clickon those below and if you're
watching on YouTube, thank youfor watching us and if you're
listening, thank you forlistening and you have anything
(41:14):
else you want to add before weclose up?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Renee I think it's just that, no matter where you
are in your life, like you arewhere you're meant to be, you
know.
So whether you, you know, are afull time parent or parenting
an older relative, or you'repursuing your entrepreneurship,
or you're going to school, oryou've been in your small
business for a few years, youknow, just just keep going.
(41:37):
We need you and need to be ashealthy and as vibrant as
possible to show up and do thebeautiful things in your life
that you're meant to do.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
I love that.
That's absolutely true.
I 100% agree.
Well, thank you for being heretoday, renee, and we will talk
to you again another time, I amsure.
Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Bye, everybody, thank you.
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