Mike Hayes is a certified coach, teacher, and speaker with the John Maxwell Team and the president of Changing Leaf, a leadership development company dedicated to developing better leaders. He’s also the co-author of Dreaming Big Being Bold 2: Inspiring Stories from Trailblazers, Visionaries and Change Makers.
In this episode, Derek Hatchard and Ron Smith chat with Mike about emotional intelligence, leadership, and ways to make positive changes in your career.
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Derek: Today on the Ardent Development Podcast, we are speaking with Mike Hayes. Mike is a certified coach, teacher, and speaker with the John Maxwell Team and the president of Changing Leaf, a leadership development company dedicated to developing better leaders. He’s also the co-author of volume 2 of the book Dreaming Big and Being Bold: Inspiring Stories from Trailblazers, Visionaries, and Change Makers. Recently, Ron sat down with Mike to interview him for his ManagingProjects.ca website and we thought that Mike would be an ideal first guest for the Ardent Development Podcast. And with that, I’ll turn it over to you, Ron.
Ron: Welcome, everybody. This is the first episode of the Ardent Development Podcast. We have Mike Hayes from Changing Leaf from Moncton, New Brunswick. So, welcome, Mike.
Mike Hayes: Thanks for having me. Good to hear you guys.
Ron: Good to hear you.
Derek: Welcome, Mike.
Mike Hayes: Thank you.
Ron: So, listen, we were chatting last week about this whole concept of you’re working with people who are going through a transition, coaching them, and they’re in a new role and we had talked a little bit about what you would say to them, how you would coach them, and after this conversation I started thinking well what about those people who are in a role and they’re just passed up for these opportunities.
Ron: They can’t figure out why. Can you unlock that mystery to some degree of, cause you see this. You see this with people that say why does Billy get this promotion. You know I’m working hard. In fact in some cases I may think I’m working harder. I don’t get it. Can you unlock that for us for a little bit.
Mike Hayes: Yeah it’s a fantastic question and it’s one that I think many people and different organizations are struggling with right. Like how do I know I make that leap from the position I currently have to go up to the next rung of a ladder.
Mike Hayes: And I guess I’ll just speak from my personal experience working in a larger organization for over 20 years. I was that person who was moving up in the organization and having the opportunity to contribute at higher levels. And I was doing that while my peers were observing this happening and I remember them asking me like how come you’re getting selected to go and be part of these initiatives.
Mike Hayes: And I’m like, well, one of the things that I’m doing is taking control of my own development. I’m not waiting for the organization to say well here’s how we plan to develop you and here’s a training session that you
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