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August 20, 2025 14 mins
In this episode of the Asia Pacific Business Forum Podcast, Dick Drobnick speaks with Glyn Ford, one of Europe’s foremost experts on East Asia and the Korean Peninsula. Over a 25-year career in the European Parliament, Ford made nearly 50 visits to North Korea, developing a deep understanding of its politics, its leaders, and its position in the region. He is the author of *North Korea on the Brink: Struggle for Survival* and *Talking to North Korea*, and has been at the center of high-level dialogue and negotiation efforts for decades. Ford brings candid insights into the relationship between Kim Jong Un and Donald Trump, remarking, “You can’t trust Pyongyang, but Pyongyang has learned not to trust the US.” On pragmatic deal-making to slow nuclear weapons development, he’s blunt: “If Pyongyang will take $100 million a year not to develop nuclear weapons—grab the handle!”. Listen as Ford unpacks the realities behind the headlines and explores what it would take to possibly maintain stability in Northeast Asia.
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