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September 16, 2025 • 16 mins

Relebogile Mabotja speaks to Paige Lindenberg a Championship-winning racing driver and  Peter Lindenberg a South African Motorsport Legend unpacking  the car basics course, designed to teach essential skills that help drivers stay prepared and safe on the roads.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seven two the Car feature Car feature for today twenty
minutes too. We're talking about Essential Car Basics course and
we're joined in studio by Paige Lindenberg, who's championship winning
racing driver key figure in South Africa's automotive industry, as
well as Peter Lindenberg, who's a South African motorsport legend.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
I feel like we've spoken before on the phone, but
now I have you for the first time physically in studio.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
How are you doing okay?

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Thanks, thanks for having us.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Thank you so.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Much for coming through truly, truly and honor. And I'm
excited to find out about this course because the moment
somebody here is you are a motorsport legend or a
championship winning racing driver. We don't want to do the
Essential course. We want to do the course you guys did.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Forty eight.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Listen, if we start today, you're going to make some
progress to me.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'm going to start with you, Peter.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
What what made you decide to get into the space.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
So I went from when I was a little kid,
literally a little kid, pushing little cars around on the
floor in our family home. I always wanted to be
a racing driver. That was my thing. I don't know,
I can't tell you why, but that's what I wanted
to do.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
And how how blessed that you knew that so early
in life because we all know people who it's taken
them decades to find the thing that they love.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Oh look I was.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
I was lucky, but it didn't happen quickly, even though
I wanted to do it. My late dad will have
very little interest. He thought that was crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
But as parents do, there's always that new generation that
is like scaring us now, you know, but you are
now the parent who was like, well I've done this, so.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Yeah, I mean, I'm fully supportive of what pages, what
has done is doing and world. She's just a really
good tell them to drive, as simple as that, and
she she knows the game.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Paige, what made you decide to, you know, launch this
car basics course and maybe clarify because the lay person
when they think about a course, some people are thinking
K fifty three, No, not at all.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
Yeah. So basically we grew up in a man's world
around cars and powerboats and all, you know, crazy things
because of my dad and his career. So we grew
up knowing how to change a hire and how to
check will and water and pump tires and all those
wonderful things.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
And my dad and.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
I, you know, we all work together, and we were
speaking a few years ago and I just said to him,
I feel like so many people don't have these general skills,
especially women. And I feel like I'm in such a
privileged position because I'm so independent when it comes to
a car that if something happens, I know how to
check my own all time.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I actually push the men out the way and say,
back up, I got this.

Speaker 6 (03:03):
The reality is most men don't know how to do
your stuff, but they just their egos.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Don't allow them to admitted, right.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
And I just say to my dad, like I want
to I want to empower women.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
See no more.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
And the only reason is because there are some cars
that you see a person opening the bonnet, right, But
it's not like the old school cars where you can
see this steam coming from it's just this fancy thing.
And you see them and you're like, why is the
bonnet open?

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Because you can't do not even much.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
They don't even know where to begin because the cars
like more digital an.

Speaker 6 (03:38):
Exactly, yeah, like the modern cars you can't just like
pop the bone and open and shake the whale. There's
no dipstick in a lot of the modern cars. Like
it's difficult. It's all computerized, so it is. It's a challenge.
And I just felt that women are at a disadvantage
if they got stuck with a fat higher and they
had no idea what's doing, There's no one around to
help them, you know, where do they go from there?

(03:59):
And we've got amazing partners in the industry that we've
worked with for many, many years, and we have them
at our fingertips to help educate people. So we decided
it was my project and my idea, and with my
dad supports and advice, I got it going. And Tiger
Will and Tire supported me on launching the project, and
I few of our partners are heavily involved when it

(04:20):
comes to the different avenues of a car. Because you
got your battery, so how do you jumpstart a car
or how do you change your battery?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
You know all those wonderful things.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
So we've got sabbat with that, We've got cash on
the oil PG glass like your windscreen is one of
the most important structures of your vehicle and you don't
even know that. So people drive with you know, chips
in the windscreen for weeks on end, and it can
literally change the structure of your vehicle. So we work
with PG Glass and it's all about educating people on
how to know what's happening with your car. Every car

(04:51):
is different, like you say, so we help people learn
their vehicle at the court. So it's literally an hour
and a half two hours. You're not going to become
a mechanic, you're not going to become driver. It's literally
just the very basics on if you're are in a
situation that you stack and you need help, you can
help yourself and if you see someone else who's stack,
you can get out your car and help them.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
And it's not just any women.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
It's now our focus now is going into school, so
teaching young people because they get their licenses in grade
eleven metric, they get a car, have no idea.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
What to do with it.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
And it's also become quite popular with corporates doing team
building because a lot of adults don't actually even know
where the space hire is. I mean, when last did
you start pump your space hire?

Speaker 1 (05:32):
So usually it happens when there's a situation exactly. You
don't just regularly have that alarm that use of every
three months to check your your spare tire. And I'm
curious in terms of what are the biggest misconceptions that
we have about cars, especially now that you know cars

(05:54):
have evolved so much. I will never forget when I
was driving a city golf coming out of work late now,
so back then it was you know, four years it
was a one point three get in the car and
I'm like, I don't have fluffy pink dice in my
car and got out because I was panicked that somebody
thought I'm trying to steal their car.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
My car was two cars away.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
But back then those keys could just open and he
got and.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
There's a lot of guys.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Right like I was shocked that that geek could.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Just maybe you just missed your vocation. You're talking about
people who are young and know what they want to
do the job.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
I missed my opportunity. But I just remember thinking to myself,
is this like a fluke? And the way now cars
have evolved where we don't even know how like unless
something breaks. Firstly, how expensive or how important certain things like.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Like these modern keys, So we're going to take a break.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
When we come back, I want to find out really
about some of the misconceptions around the basics of cars,
but also what are the things that were in old
cars that you would still vouch for a person knowing
even if they're driving new cars. Your calls and your
questions oh seven two seven oh two on seven oh two.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
And oh double one double A three oh seven O
two seven o two in the Car Feature.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Eleven minutes to three o'clock. We continue without Car Feature
for today talking essential car basics calls together with Paige
linden Burg, who's a championship winning racing driver and of
course quite a key person in South Africa's automotive industry.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Together with pe the linden.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Berg a South African mode a sport legend, O double
one double A three h seven O two the WhatsApp
line oh seven two seven oh two on seven oh two.
So what are some of the basics you think, even
though cars have evolved quite a bit, that you think
people should still just have that basic basic skill.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
I mean, I think the basic the most important basic
feel for me is when it comes to your car
as tires, because that's literally the only point of contact
your car has with the road. And I think you
got to know what you're buying and know that it's
a reputable brand and know that you're looking after your life.
Because we've done some tastes and it's on YouTube with
Tiger Wheel and Tire and it's alworth having a look
at where you can literally see the difference in breaking

(08:20):
with a reputable brand and annoyingly brand tire and it's
life and death you. It's a ten fifteen meter difference
in breaking safe you eyes. So tires are really important.
And fuel and oil the subtity put into your car
to help your engine, rands to make sure it's clean
and are contaminated, and the right reputable brands I think

(08:40):
is really important. And we work very close to your
BP Fuels and you know, we do a lot of
work with him, and they educate people so well when
it comes to those things.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I'm very guilty.

Speaker 6 (08:49):
Of leaving my car it's all empty, like my light's
always on because.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
I knew those people are like I know my car.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
No, But I feel like it's like I hate going
and paying for fuel because I'm a it go I
feel like I'm paying and I don't see where it's going.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
You know what the trick is that they are a
woman whose husbands or boyfriends always fill up their cars,
so they never they're just like, what.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Do you mean petrol? What do you mean feel?

Speaker 6 (09:13):
Because it's just always hasn't like always gets to my card.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
He's like, he always falls it for me. I got
in better because I know how bad it is for
my cards.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Not run.

Speaker 6 (09:23):
You know it needs to stay for because it is
really bad for the carts. You're at an emsy It's
not really Yeah, it's not good for.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
The What happens if you the lower the level is
in your fuel tank, the better the chances of condensation
in the tank, and so in older cause that's what
you know, older cost tanks for us, that's why fuel
pumps fail.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
It's all to do with it.

Speaker 5 (09:47):
If you, as a rule of thumb, if you keep
a car always above half a tank, highly unlucky.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Quarter.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
I try to do quarter, okay, but these most women
go to.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Comes on and then it's.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Just to go.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
And the other side of this is like if you're
in an emergency, something God forbid happens and you have
to rush somewhere and you got no.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Fill in your car?

Speaker 6 (10:11):
What do you do because you don't have time to
stop and fill it up.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
So I've been much better about it. I don't let it.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
I don't let my lad come on anymore. I've been
much better. But yeah, said, you know what the problem
is with these kinds of things is that all of
these things that we go through and teaching car basics,
unfortunately they all grudge purchases because you don't want to
go and spend thousands on a state of tires, and
you don't want to go and spend thousands on a
service on oil. But unfortunately, these are the things we

(10:39):
have to do in order to keep our cars in
check to avoid issues and being stuck on the side
of the road.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Okay, please help me understand page What does this car
basics course?

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Just cover?

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Like youterally the basics. So if you can not going
to be a mechanic guy, you're not going to be
a race professional race card driver, don't dim Lewis Hamilton.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah I know.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
So it's literally just your tires, how to change in check,
your trade your space higher, make sure you have all
the right space in your vehicle, because that's also really
important if you get stuck on the side of the
road and you don't have any space, you can't change
your higher or your wheel, so that's really important. And
then we focus on batteries, how to check your battery,
how to keep your battery full and charged, because there's
also a misconception. We spoke you spoke about misconceptions. There's

(11:25):
a misconception about someone starting your car when you're on
holiday for you just to quickly run it.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
That's not good for the battery because the.

Speaker 6 (11:32):
Car doesn't actually drive, so the alternator doesn't charge the battery.
So just by having these quick starting your garage can
actually drain your battery more than just not touching a car.
So we go through a lot of these misconceptions. Also,
like documents when it comes to cars, there's so many
important documents and licensing rules you should know. About vehicles
being towed away in an accident by people who take

(11:54):
you for big money, there's a big issue. So we
touch on all these little safety aspects and just tip
some how to be more aware of your vehicle, the
things around your vehicle, how to help yourself check your
oil and water when screens, make sure you have fluid
in your windscreen wipers, make sure your blades are new
and safe, because if you're in a storm, how do

(12:14):
you see where you're going? You know, there's lots of
little little things that are really important to take note of.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Peter, what would you say is one of the downsides
of the modern cars that you know are becoming so
digital technological. And I would imagine you have downsides because
you've been doing this for so long, and I'm sure
you can appreciate a lot of things that are I
would say, an inverted comma is manual and not as automated.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
So the.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
Rate of progress in technology and motocrs is incredible, and
it's basically very good.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
It's positive stuff.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
The negative of it is that the day of that
workshop on the corner or that friend of mine who's
a mechanic can help me, they are disappearing real fast
because you need to have the technology at your fingertips
to diagnose the problem. Mon A cor it's no longer.
Oh well, I think it's that and I'll fix it. No, no, no, now,

(13:12):
you got to you gotta plug in the diagnostics, read
the codes, et cetera, et cetera, And so the game's
changed a lot, and it's still changing even further now
with hybrid vehicles, electric vehicles.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
It's a it's a fluid situation.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
And if you said to me, do I think it's
good always bad? I think it's fantastic for the average
person because the average person doesn't want to be a
specialist on a motorco.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yes, it's transport.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
It gets me from A to B or that's how
I earned my money working driving from here to there,
whatever whatever. But it's definitely change the the the view
of the enthusiast.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
The enthusiast looks more towards the older cole.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Yes, because they can get stuck in and get their
hands dirty and most in most cases they can sort
the problem page.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
How can people get in touch? And how much does
the course cost? Courses one hundred and ninety five rand.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Well, yeah, so cheap.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
Yeah. As a passion project for me, it's really just
to help educate people and help them become more independent.
So we have Instagram car Basics ASA. There's a course
coming up now in Pretoria in October with Tiger Wio
on Tire and then also my Instagram Pagen and Berg.
They welcome to contact me on there, but I can
also send you all details flames to get in touch.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
And what I love about you, what your course offers
is outside of upskilling you, giving you that confidence, is
it is quite empowering.

Speaker 6 (14:46):
Yeah, onered percent. That's the aim of it. It was
never to make money. Were here to help people, and
I'm all for women independence. The guys, as I said,
need the course too, So if some of them are
willing to put the egos aside join us.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
We'd love to have them.

Speaker 6 (15:02):
But yeah, I've grown up as a very independent woman
thanks to my parents. They've never ever stopped us from
doing anything, and they've always told us, you know, that
we could do anything, and they believed in us. Not
everyone has that, So I really hope that we can
help other women feel independent when it comes to the vehicle,
because they can feel daunting and it's not. It's quite
simple if you just learn these basic things.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Are you still racing? I am.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
We have a race this weekend. You're leading to championship.
I'm leading to championships, but our teams leading I think
four So this is a final round for the year
of this championship. So we're going to start corps on
Saturday for a nice big race to end off the season.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Dann, how proud are you?

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Very?

Speaker 5 (15:43):
I'm a very fortunate person because I stopped racing five
years ago when I was sixty five, and I don't
win the championship that year, and I'm in the very
fortunate where I'm involved every day in our racing team
because Page is there, James son in law made to
the other daughter. He races in our team. My business past,
my races in our team. So I'm involved in racing

(16:04):
every day of my life, which is what a way
to spend the rest of your days.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Look at that.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
I absolutely love it for the both of you. Well done,
and I hope the course is extremely successful and riches
as many people as possible.
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