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June 20, 2025 86 mins

The news keeps getting worse: over 250 million acres of our public lands potentially up for sale and 3 million or more likely carved out.  While this has been a goal, and a dream, of many radical politicians for the past fifty years, until now it has only been whispered, dog-whistled, lied about, and obscured. Now, their plan is out in the open.

The line is drawn in the sand. The gauntlet has been thrown down. The land grabbers have made their play.

How will we respond? How do we, the Americans who know and love and depend upon these lands, stop this utterly shameless theft of our national assets?

MeatEater Director of Conservation and Backcountry Hunters & Anglers North American Board Chair Ryan Callaghan joins Hal as they discuss what is happening, what's at stake, and how we – all of us American patriots together -- are going to stop this vandalism and theft of the treasures of our nation. Listen. Learn. Then Take Action.

And Fuel the Fight with our United We Stand for Public Lands campaign

This episode is a special Dual Release with MeatEater for Cal's Week In Review.

The Podcast & Blast with Hal Herring is brought you by Backcountry Hunters & Anglers and presented by Silencer Central, with additional support from Decked, Dometic, and Filson. 

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