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February 24, 2025 147 mins

In today’s episode of Backpacker Radio, presented by The Trek and brought to you by Topo Athletic, we’re joined by Ben Vaugh, known on trail as Ginger Ballz. Ben is a Navy veteran, accomplished thru-hiker, and currently works as a dog musher, a topic Chaunce and Badger had way too much fun diving into.

Ginger Ballz takes us through his transition from the military to thru-hiking, why he recommends it to fellow service members, and the parallels between the two. He shares stories from his hikes of the Triple Crown trails, the Hayduke, Superior Hiking Trail, and Long Trail. We also get a deep dive into his current gig managing a dog mushing and guiding company in Colorado, working with Iditarod-winning pups. He breaks down the process of training huskies for guiding, the biggest challenges of mushing, and the unique bond he shares with his dogs.

We close out the show with a feature on a man who thru-hiked the AT while legally blind, a debate on whether airplanes have keys, why Zach is no longer allowed to enjoy pho, Chaunce’s honey grease, the Triple Crown of abbreviated insults, and more.

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Interview with Ben “Ginger Ballz” Vaughan

Time stamps & Questions

00:05:12 - Reminders: Join us for our live show in Austin, listen to our episodes ad-free on Patreon, and apply to blog for the Trek!

00:08:05 - Introducing Ben

00:10:00 - Tell us about your Navy experience

00:12:10 - What’s it like chasing down pirates?

00:16:06 - Tell us about transitioning between the Navy and thru-hiking

00:19:00 - How did the AT get on your radar?

00:20:38 - Did your military background help you go into the AT with confidence?

00:22:30 - Did you do thru-hiking specific research?

00:24:02 - Did you feel your purpose restored when you started the AT?

00:24:30 - Do you think thru-hikers could succeed in the military?

00:26:20 - Tell us about the Kona Ironman?

00:28:20 - Tell us about the Navy culture in Coronado

00:31:15 - Did you know right away that thru-hiking was for you?

00:34:10 - How did you feel upon finishing the AT?

00:36:00 - What other traits did you get from the Navy that aided you in thru-hiking?

00:39:44 - Tell us about going from the AT to the PCT

00:42:50 - What was it like adjusting to the high snow year on the PCT?

00:48:00 - Can you completely recover from frostbite?

00:50:00 - Did you freak out when you were stuck i

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