Bri Seeley {on taking big leaps}

In this special episode, Thais interviews Bri! Join in on the conversation as Bri shares her thoughts on taking big leaps and living an amplified life! Check out the show notes at www.TheAmplifyCollective.com.

Episode Transcript

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You are listening to be Amplified atthe podcast with Brian Tais episode number sixty.
You know, Hey, amplifiers,Welcome to be Amplified the podcast.
My name is Tays and I'm BreeSeeley. We are the co founders of
the Amplified Collective, a movement aimedat radically disrupting how purpose driven women connect

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and operate in the world, becausewe believe it's not just what you do,
but who you are that matters.Each week, join us for messages
and interviews that will leave you feelingamplified and ready to change the world.
Let's do this. Hello, Hello, Hello everybody. I am Tay Sky.
Welcome to be Amplified the podcast SlashRadio show Slash Just kidding. It's

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on a radio show, So Iam generally on here with another person,
and this other person and I tendto have a dialogue back and forth.
But we decide we were going todo something fun and this person and I
instead would be interviewing each other.So it's a solo podcast where I'm going
to be all by myself interviewing theone person. So I had the pleasure

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of being interviewed a few podcast episodesago which you can check out on iTunes
and all the other places you listento this And that was a lot of
fun. And so now it's myhonor and privilege to introduce you all to
my dear friend and fellow podcast hoster. But for now, she's just a
beautiful interviewee brute seely Oh, thankyou, thank you for having me.

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Thank you, thank you, thankyou. So before we begin this brilliant
interview, let me read to you, breeze, what's it called a bio.
I have to say I'm excited forthis part because of the sixty one
episode that we've had so far.This is the first bile that Tyson has

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read. And she always gets afterme because I always sucked them up.
You always fuck up. It's gonnabe awesome. I'm ready. I'm not
gonna fuck up because you know why, Because you know I'm not gonna fuck
up because I fucking wrote this shit, bitches. That is true. I
may or may not have written thisbio for her, not yesterday, obviously
a while ago, like a yearago or a year and a half half.
So I'm glad to know that mywords smithing is still serving you to

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this day. It's very honored.Okay him, here's to me and I'm
messing up. Oh and if Imess up, I'm just gonna edit it,
so no one's gonna note So nomatter what, I'm perfect, so
done done. So briefly, itis an inspirational woman who supports women around
the world to turn their inner visionsinto their outer realities. Bree is motivated

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by a deeply held belief that everywoman deserves to live a life and inspires
her and her work reflects this deepremembering of possibility. I didn't write that,
No, that is epic words,Okay, and her work reflects this
deep remembering of the possibility, nayinevitability that our desires hold. Through her
signature six month training Permission to Leap. With an upcoming book and podcast by

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the same name, she will guideyou through the process of leaping from the
day you commit to your vision,all the way through each stage up until
the day you land softly on theother side of it all. A catalyst,
speaker, and author, she isa regular contributor to The Huffington Post
and is known by many for hercompassionate yet tell it like it is guidance
that creates massive and epic changes inevery woman she encounters. That sounds like

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something I wrote. Bree has beenfeatured on Today's Show, Forbes, Medium,
Kickstarter, PBS, Free Enterprise,and every other online platform ever made
Welcome to be Amplified the podcast breeCeely thank you. I'm really so excited.
Thank you for asking me to behere today. Tays it was so
hard to get to you through allyour people, you know what I mean,

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Like our people had to go throughyour people. So it's just I
don't know what to say. I'mjust so nervous right now. Never interviewed
someone quite your caliber. Plus it'syour first solo and a solo interview.
M M, Let's see how Ido? Okay? Wow. The first
question that we always ask, soI will ask you is what does it

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look like for you to live andamplified life? So it's so funny because
I think you know you have clearlyasked this, you know, sixty times
yes, And I've been on thereceiving end of sixty different answers. And
it's hard, right, isn't ithard? It's so hard. I'm like,
I don't know what that is.What are these words that you're putting
out like I don't understand English,all of us. For everyone listening right

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now, hit pause for a hotsecond and define this for yourself, I
dare you? Yeah right, sotry to do it live, you know,
right? But yeah, yes,um, I was in the shower
this morning because that's where all mybest thinking gets done. And realize that
for me, it ties in basicallyeverything that I teach, and it's this,
it's for me. It's a twopart thing. It's an inner and

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an outer and the first step isalways that inner inner vision, inner alignment,
like whatever that is for you,what who are you? What do
you need? And then communicating thatto the outside world. And so those
are the two things for me,and then using that communication to amplify other

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people's lives. That's where I've foundthe most impact, the most joy,
the most transformation in my life.And so it's really that inner to outer
thing, doing the inner work offiguring out what makes me happy, what
makes me unique, what makes mewho I am in the world, what

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do I have to offer to theworld, And then going out and being
that beacon of light to share thatwhatever that is for you with everyone else,
So you know, you talk alot about this permission to leap,
and so I'm curious why. Okay, so you call it permission, like

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like people don't generally feel like theyhave permission to leap, and so I'm
curious why you think that is,Like, why do you think that people
don't have that permission to go afterwhat they want? So I see the
world as having kind of like twofactions to it. There's the physical world
that we all live in, thatwe all see, that we all touch

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and experience with our five senses constantlyevery day. And then there's the spiritual
world, which is kind of justall the stuff we can't see. It's
the inner work, it's the feelings, it's the emotions, it's the sensations,
it's the connection that we have withsource that kind of stuff. And
most of the people that I haveencountered in the world, and I believe,

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you know, we're kind of conditionedand taught to place all of our
energy into the physical world, Likeyou can only base your life and yourself
and your possibility on what you cansee and touch. And so I believe
that because of that, a lotof people have this perspective of, well,
you know, I have all theseresponsibilities, and I've committed to this,

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and I've said this in the past. So now this is my life,
and you know, I have ajob that makes sense, so I
can't possibly go off and be anentrepreneur to do something that I can't yet
see or touch. And so Ibelieve that this reliance on the physical world
is what keeps people small. It'swhat keeps people from pursuing that deep burning

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desire that they have on the inside. Because the deep burning desire isn't something
that is yet birthed into the physicalworld, and so we don't have any
trust in it. So what doesit look like then to go from then
shifting the internal to the external,because ultimately you want the external to change,

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all right, that's why you're leaping. Yeah, And so you know,
there's there's a whole bunch of thingsthat kind of go into that.
But in this like six step ideaof a leap that I've experienced time and
time and time again, the firstfour steps are all inner. They're all
internal shit. They're healing their beliefworks, their commitments, they're you know,

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getting to know yourself, your needs, your desires, their alignment there.
I mean, there's so many it'sall that stuff that you can't see
that's necessary in preparation to leap.So I totally forgot your question. Okay,
it's just as hard as being Iknow, it really is. Well,

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I just so keep going about thatthough, because that's really interesting because
I want to know, like,when do you go from the internal t
external and you are just about toget there? Yeah, So it's I
see it like this in practical terms, it is like exactly like skydiving,
which is a literal leap, right, and if we then fuck no,

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that is never happening. What seriously, I am good with my feet on
the ground unless it's an enclosed airplane. I like the planes, but closed
doors I've been there. I've beentwice. You need to go. You
know all about this, So it'swe don't You don't like decide you're jumping
out of an airplane and all thesudden you're on the edge of a fucking
airplane tumbling out, right, Soit's all of the stuff leading up to

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it. You don't. You don'tdecide you're gonna leap out of an airplane
and you decide you're gonna go skydive. But it's not like it's not that
quick where your brain decides like I'mgoing to do this, and then all
of a sudden you're on the edgeof a plane. Yeah, there's all
of this lead up stuff and youhave freak out moments, and you have
moments where you're like, I don'tthink I want to go, and typically

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you know, you're in the planewith all these people, having all this
internal stuff come up, all thesefears, and um, so if you
want to fulfill this metaphor, though, you really need to go. Because
I've interviewed people, that's enough.I've inter it is you have taken so
many leaps. But all I'm lettingyou know is the actual physical experience of

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jumping out of a plane is incredible. I have heard this rumor and so
anyways, Uh, it's all thatbuild up stuff, that lead up stuff,
and you have to do all thosethings before you take the leap.
You can't just skip to the leappart. You have to have all the

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steps, Otherwise you'd leap out ofthe plane and maybe your parachute wouldn't work,
or you know, all the differentcomplications that could go wrong. And
so this inner to outer concept iskind of everything for me, you have
to get your inner landscape correctly,you know, like in alignment, you
have to make commitments, you haveto let go of things that no longer

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fit. You have to be opento receiving things that do. You have
to you know, be be usingvisualization and all these different techniques and things
to allow this to come to you, because our egos can really get in
the way and really want to belike what it has to look a certain
way, that has to be likethis, and oftentimes our leaps look nothing
like our ego things they should.Yeah, I love that, and I'm

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curious how you connect that with living? What is it in your bio it
says every woman deserves to live alife that inspires her. So I'm curious,
like how do they How does thatconnect? I mean, basically,
if you're living a life that doesn'tinspire you, you're probably going to be
less likely to take the leaps,Probably that you're going to be less likely

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to even hear the call within youof what it is that you want.
Again, that's going back to thewhole like physical reality thing. We get
so inundated by all the shoulds,all the like, well, I'm a
woman, so I should have achild, and I should get married by
a certain age, and I shouldbe doing this, and I should be
doing that, and I should havea stable job and all these things that

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we're told that our lives should looklike. And I believe that simply by
being alive, you deserve to experiencewhatever it is that your soul and your
heart is calling for you to deserve. And if you're staying in the physical
world and staying in the shoulds andstaying in all those things, you know,

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it's it's preventing you from being ableto see here and experience what it
is that you're here for. Yeah, and you know, I've been thinking
a lot about the word inspire aninspiration, and I'm curious, like what
that really means to you, tolike live an inspirational life, or to

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be inspirational, or to you know, to have an inspired life. Yeah.
So I see it in two differentways. I see it as an
inspirational life and an inspired life.So again, the inspired life is your
inner world. Does your world sparkthat joy within you? Does your life
excite you? That's what matters.And then the second half, of course,

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just like I said about living anamplified life is that taking that inspiredness
that you experience, that joy,that alignment, that excitement, and bringing
it out into the world in whateverway you're called to. And so I
think the inspired life has to comefirst before that you can then be that
spark for others, build inspired livesand inspire them and be inspirational. So

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you kin so you kind of steppinginto a role model if you are having
an inspirational life. And the thingI always say about this too is that
if you are, if you arewanting to live an inspirational life and you
want to inspire others, it doesn'thave to be if this huge thing.
It doesn't mean that you alone haveto carry the burden of changing the world.

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It might mean that you're an amazingfucking mom. That is an inspirational
life. You're creating change within abeing that is going to carry our world
into the next century. That's inspirational. So I'm sure it doesn't feel very
inspirational. But the idea is thatlike being an inspiration to someone else,

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can be a child or your grocerystore checker, looking them in the eyes
and really genuinely truly experiencing human connectionwith them. It can be that you
speak on a stage in front offive thousand people, or it can be
that you run for local office.I mean, it doesn't There is no
one way to live an inspired lifeand to be inspirational in the world.

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You have to figure out what thatis for you, and you have to
do the inner work before you cantake that out into the world. So
can you live an inspirational life ifno one knows that you're living an inspired
life? Yes, because you know. But then how can you influence others?
Because so maybe it's syntax right oror whatever. But to live an

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inspirational life sounds like you you haveto kind of be committed to the inspirational
of others, but being inspired bybeing inspired and by you showing up in
your alignment, in your authenticity,by what inspires you, and by being
that beacon of light in the worldsimply for yourself. Even if you have

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no motivations of being the you know, president or the next Tony Robbins or
this or that or any of thosethings, you are going to be impacting
and inspiring other people's lives simply byI see, I see see, I
get it. It starts on theinside, and then you know the amount
and who you impact is totally yourcall, and sometimes honestly it's not your

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call. You walk by someone onthe street and smile. You just inspired
their day and you were just beingyourself. Yeah, So what is it
about this word that you love somuch? Do you use it a lot?
You know at that scene if you'veconnected to you It's funny. I
actually don't think I chose this word. I think this word chose me.

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I have been cleaning out my officebecause I'm moving and found this rock that
I got at a New Year's Eveparty in like two thousand and ten,
and the rock had the word inspireon it, like and I just I
had to reach into a thing andlike pull out a rock. And I've
had this rock since two thousand andten. And when I was getting ready

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to do the Inspirational Woman project,you know, that was something that just
came to me. I was sittingon my couch and I just I had
already like thought about the idea forthe blog series, and all of a
sudden, like saw the logo andthe name and just all of these things
just kind of filtered into my existence. And I still have the sheet of
paper in my journal where I grabbedmy journal and was like, oh god,

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I have the worst memory ever.I have to drop all of this
stuff down right now. I havethe worst memory. Um So yeah,
I I don't. I don't thinkI chose it. I think it shows
me. That's cool. Yeah.You know when I met you, you
were what were you? You werejust deciding that you were going to be

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shedding down your fashion brand to umgo into coaching, and you had already
um done your Kickstarter for your InspirationalWoman project. And it's been quite a
journey that you've been on of findingyour yourself in many ways in the past
two over two years. Yeah,it's interesting. I was just reflecting.

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I actually just wrote an article aboutthis that, um, I have had
The first business license I ever gotwas ten years ago. Wow. So
I have been a business owner forten years. And one of the things
that I look back on the mostis that I have officially because I've shut
down my fashion brand and I've shutdown the Inspirational Woman project permanently, and

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um, you know, I've I'veclosed more things now than I've opened,
like you know, and or Iguess it's not that's not the correct terminology.
I've I've closed more than is stillopen, I guess I would say,
and it had I think. Ifeel like that's been probably the most

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surprising part of the entrepreneurial journey forme. What is the letting goness and
the um not Going into fail modehas been a really big thing for me.
The first one into what fail mode? Yeah? Like what like I'm
a fail because I'm a failure?Yeah, I mean, which to be

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completely americal moment. My phone's goingoff, even though it's on silent that
it is right now americal moment.Let's all take a deep enjoy the miraculous
moment that is here. Clearly,what I'm about to say is a miraculous
Obviously, I did go into failmode when I closed down my fashion brand,

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hardcore failmode. For a long time. My ego is very wrapped up
in being a fashion designer and whatthat meant about me if I wasn't a
fashion designer and everything, And yeah, I feel like that's been one of
the most beautiful and really a themethat I've been playing with so much this
year is departures and arrivals and butso but you said it was the most

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surprising. So I'm curious, likewhy it was the most surprising, or
let's say, like what your expectationwas going into it. I feel like,
you know, as entrepreneurs, wecome in and we're like, I
have this one big idea and it'sgonna be a success. And you know,
we don't celebrate quote unquote failure inour society, and so we don't

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know about all all the businesses thatall the other successful entrepreneurs have had that
have failed because we don't talk aboutit. My guests would be that,
well, I mean, you've toldme this one Marie four Leo had a
business before she was on her own, and you know how that didn't go
the way she wanted it too,And it's just it's interesting that we don't

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talk about that stuff. And soit was a surprise for me. You
know. I thought it was similarlyto how it used to be, where
you'd get one job and stick init for sixty years. I thought it
was going to be like my fashionbrand and that was it forever. That
was who I was, and myidentity was so wrapped up in that,
and that was a really hard hit, was going through that and really being

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like, well, if that's notwho I am, then I what am
I? And what does it looklike to be inspired by my life?
And what does it look like tothen inspire other people's lives. Yeah,
Yeah, that is definitely something thatis not talked about at all, is
the changings of your mind and likechangings of idea. I mean, I've

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written down how many iterations of mybusiness, like, you know, small
small iterations like my title that I'vechanged kind of in the past five years
that I've been an entrepreneur, andI think I got to twelve, you
know, and and how many majorrebrands I've gone through. Probably once a

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year I've gone through like a majorchange. And you know, I will
occasionally stumble upon someone that I usedto know like five six years ago,
and I check up on them andsee what they're doing, and their business
is completely different than it was.Some of them have closed down their business,
you know, some of them havesomething totally different. And it's very
rare to find someone that's doing thesame thing every single year. Yeah,

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And we don't talk about it,and I really wish somebody that we would
have talked about it when I started, so I didn't assign so much shame,
you know, and you know,you know brave. They people in
the industry push, well, youhave to have a clear message and you
have to have a clear niche.But nobody says, oh, and by
the way, that message and thatniche may may change every few months.

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And so you're constantly thinking the problemwas I didn't have a clear message.
Yeah, or it was me oryeah, You're like, we internalize all
this stuff totally, and maybe itwas just an alignment issue. You know,
it just required you to grow exactly, like you wouldn't have known that.
I would not have known to behere if I started here exactly.

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If I had started being a coach, I would have failed massively. I
had to have, you know,X amount of years. Think I ran
my fashion brand for like seven yearsor something like that. I had to
have my fashion brand for seven yearsto learn who I was as a woman
and what my voice was like andhow I had even the ability to inspire
impact other people. And without that, I there's no way that I would

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be where I'm at today. Iwas just having a client the other day,
be like, I want to bewhere you are. I want to
know you know, I want tohave everything figured out and blah blah blah
blah blah, and and I hadto remind her, like, this is
two and a half years in themaking. You're brand new into business.
It's it's a process. We wantit all done so quickly, and you

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have to go through everything in orderto get to that place that you want
to be. Wherever that place is, because it's there is really no place.
It's I mean, that's a wholedifferent conversation. But um, but
yeah, like Tyson, I didn'tget to the places we are overnight.

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This isn't where we started. Thisis where we Um, this is a
very podcast. Ask me another question. Yeah, oh gosh, Well,
what's the question that you fucking askedme that I hated? I was like,
I don't know, and I waslike I should probably I think I
know, Like, um, what'sthe question that you want me to ask
you? Bright, Well, usuallywait till the end of the interview to

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ask that, So I'm going toask that right now. So I let's
see a shitty question. The firstleap I ever consciously remember making, are
you like two years old? Andhe jumped over a puddle? No,

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ask you have to ask the questionthough, that's the question I wish you,
wish you would ask me. Ohokay, but that doesn't mean I
have to ask it. You don'thave to ask it. Don't ask it.
Why I should have asked a reallyshitty question then, just like what's
your favorite color? What is yourfavorite color? I think I didn't know
that. I know that. Ithink I remember an episode one way back,

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like fifteen months ago, when wetalked about how I had a pink
phase and I only wore pink everysingle day when I was like twenty four.
Yeah, okay, so let's talkabout your first conscious leap, So
the first one that I can everremember making where I kind of took a
stand for myself and was like,this is what I want. Most people

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don't know this about me, ButBreesili is not the name that's on my
birth certificate. Don doundon, Soare you do we even know who you
are? We don't know who youare. It's true, Breesili's my alias.
No. When I was thirteen,I went to my mom and asked
if I could change my last name. And it was a little scary because

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at thirteen I kind of knew whatthe ramifications of that were going to be,
and one of the ramifications was thatmy dad's side of the family disowned
me, and you know, Ikind of had to have that internal battle
of what, you know, wasI going to trust this desire that I
was having, or was I gonnalet the idea of getting presents from his

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side of the family twice a year, you know, manipulate me into being
content with the last name that Ididn't identify with. And luckily, I
you know, I was blessed witha very very very supportive mom that Hi,
Mama, seely she's probably listening.She listens every week, and then
she sent she texts me afterwards allof her thoughts about the episodes, like

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all of the words I've mispronounced,and keeping up with the Joneses or Jonases,
well, you know, the Jonasbrothers. I think the Jonas Brothers
is the modern version of that.I was actually just being really trendy,
Okay. So yeah, So backto the story. Hand I was thirteen,

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I asked my mom if I couldchange my name. I had to
write a letter to the courts.I had to write a letter to Rice
County Court System and let them knowexactly why I wanted my last name changed,
and when they approved that, Ihad to go in front of a
judge and stand in front of ajudge and defend my way. How old
are you thirteen? Thirteen? What'sthe like? Mint? Is that the

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minimum legal age that you're allowed tolike make your own decision like that?
I feel like it might be it'slike or eleven or like one of those
things. M yeah, yeah,but yeah, So I took this leap
and I stood up and voiced mydesires and leaped into a new last name.

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And yeah, it was scary,and the ramifications were pretty much what
I thought they would be, whichyou know, as a thirteen year old
sucks, and I stopped getting presents. Damn, that's heartbreaking, heartbreaking.

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But I think that was the firsttime that I really truly consciously stood up
and said this is what I want, this is the change that I want
in my life. I'm committed toit, looking looking at the potential outcomes,
I'm committed to it. And youknow, luckily, like I said,
my mom was super strong and stoodnext to me through the whole thing,
both writing the letter and facing mygrandparents and telling my dad and going

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to the courthouse and all that stuff. I was lucky to have a solid,
stable presence beside me through the wholeleap. But yeah, I think
that that was the first conscious one. So what can people learn from you
and that experience? You know,I think the biggest thing in every leap
process is that there are risks andrewards with both both sides. You're sitting

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on the fence and you've got yourleap on one side and not taking the
leap on the other side, andyou're looking at that leap being like,
oh, there's so many risks withit. There's so many risks with that
leap. I would invite you toalso look that there are risks associated with
not leaping as well, and thereare reward It's associated with both sides as
well. And at the end ofthe day, you have to figure out

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what you value. You know,is it important for you to stay in
the comfort of where you are rightnow or is it important for you to
do something different in the world.And whatever you commit to it, it
literally doesn't matter. But if you'resitting on the fence thinking that there's no
risks associated with where you are,you're not looking at the situation fully,

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So is there ever a time whenyou shouldn't take a leap? Yeah?
I actually just interviewed a friend aboutthis the other day. Her major leap
that she's taking right now is tostay. She was getting really itchy in
her life, and in fact,I've been experiencing it as well. I
was getting really itchy. My leaseis up at my place, and I'm

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like, maybe I should move.And I ended up sitting with it and
being like, is this what Itruly want? Is moving? Is leaping
into a new place? What Ireally want? Like, what is this
discomfort that's here for me? AndI realized that it wasn't coming from a
place of leaping towards something. Itwas coming from a place of leaping away

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from something, And it was leapingaway based on fear. And I had
to take the space and the timeto sit in that and like stew in
my fear and let the ship cometo the surface and really face why this
discomfort was coming up in the firstplace, and commit to staying. And

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so I signed another year lease onmy apartment. Wow, So then how
do you know? How do youknow if the leap is to go or
the leap is to stay. Youknow, we've talked about this in terms
of relationships, you know, butI'll love to hear your thoughts. For
me, it's it's sitting in thatstillness and really tapping into something that's beyond

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you, because you have to ifyou're super emotional about something, you have
to almost remove yourself from the situationand being in that stillness and that void,
in that place of not having eitheroption and letting the truth come to
you, and you know, whetherthat be meditation or yoga or any other

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sort of sort of you know,healing experience, whatever, sound bath,
getting into a place where you canemotionally detach from the situation and just allow
your intuition to speak to you,allow God to speak to you, allow
that higher voice to speak to you, and ask a lot of questions,

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you know, where is this discomfortcoming from? And feeling really itchy?
What what's going on underneath this?What is this? What do I need
right now? Are kind of thingsthat I've used to know if I should
stay or go, And then therehave been some other ones that are like
fucking two by fours, and Idon't even have to sit in a place

(32:15):
of stillness because the answer is justso fucking clear that it's one of those
where like, Okay, I'm tothe point where I no longer have a
choice. Yeah. Yeah, I'vebeen sitting with a big decision this past
year, you know, contemplating goingback to school. You know, a

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lot of the work that I dois very very much therapy related or therapy,
and I would love some more credentialsto support my that, you know,
to support that work. I will. You know, I love studying,
I love learning, but I don'tknow what the right answer is.

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There are risks to both sides.It is a big decision, and that
I have nothing speaking to me.I have no God, no angels,
no guides, no intuition, nohigher self, no what other words.
Nothing has been speaking to me.So you're like in the never Ending Story
when there's the nothingness and the bigblackness, You're just like, like,

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I feel like I will be finein my life if I do or if
I don't. Um I have,you know, So the thing is,
and I would love for you tospeak to this. You know, I'm
taking a leap because I think it'sgoing to like if I were to go
to school. It's because I thinkof what that is going to look like?
A mean, So, what wouldhappen if I, and I think

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this is what prevents a lot ofpeople from taking leaps or making big decisions,
is that I'm making an awful lotof assumptions of what that leap is
going to look like. If Ihad known when I was moving from Maryland
to LA and I quit my jobfull time to go and entrepreneurism full time,
I had known what these two yearswould have entailed or over two years

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now, I don't know, youknow, like I don't know if I
would have done it the same wayand so and so let's speak to that,
like, let's speak to the reasonwhy most people don't make the leap
is because they don't want to makethey they don't want to make a leap
based off of a lot of assumptions. But you're also never going to have

(34:29):
all the information you need and sowhat, so what does one do?
I mean, it's just for me, it's a deep faith and a deep
trust and a complete surrender because Iknow, I typically know the endpoint why
it is, like the underlying reasonsthat I want something like what is the

(34:50):
the underlying why of you going back? To school, right like, what
is the underlying why of me changingmy name? What? What? Like?
What what is important about that tome? And So if I know
that, and I can trust thatwhatever happens guiding me to that feeling that

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I want to experience, whatever thatpath looks like, Let's be honest,
it is never gonna look how youthink it's going to look. It is
never going to look how you wantit to look, right, It just
never is. And the more thatyou can be in surrender to it looking
exactly as it looks and trusting thatthat is exactly as it's supposed to be,

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I feel like the easier the leapprocesses, and honestly, the better
it all unfolds because you're not justconstantly trying to fight with your ego to
make it look a certain way.So for me, I start with that
endpoint and not just the endpoint,because it's never the thing, right Like,
it's not going back to school thatyou're looking for, It's whatever's under

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that. It wasn't changing my namethat I was looking for. It was
the fact that I, truly atmy soul, felt more connected to the
Seely family. They were the oneyou know, Grandma Seely was the one
that was spending every day with mewhile my mom was working three jobs.
She was the one that taught mehow to sew and would do like started
my love for jigsaw puzzles, andwould play part cheesy with me, and

(36:19):
would feed me all of the foodsthat I desired, usually the blue box
macaroni and cheese pretty much for theentirety of the first twenty one years of
my life. And you know,like that was the underlying reason and for
whatever reason, being fourteen, thatwas more important to me than this idea
of losing touch with or the identityof a family that I never really connected

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with. And so it's never aboutthe thing that you want. It's never
about the thing you want. It'sabout the feeling behind that thing that you
want, and the more that youcan be in that feeling and trust that
whatever is going to lead you thereis exactly perfect, is exactly right,
might fucking suck at times. Imean, Tyson I both had massive,

(37:07):
massive ups and downs with entrepreneurship,and neither of us would be where we
are today without the entire experience.And so, you know, as easy
as it is to look back andbe like, well, you know I
would have done it differently. Well, it's not easy, actually, but
pause. I think that that's importantto say, Like I think we're we're

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we live in a paradigm where we'revery scared to look back and honestly assess
how things were because you're not allowedto have regrets because you know things happen
perfectly. And so I want topause there because I actually didn't think that
there's a lot of value in goingback and assessing and determining when you have

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the perspective, why did I lead? Now that I have perspective, was
it really out of the why thatI thought it was? Was it not?
You know, what would I havedone differently? And that's how we
learned. This is actually the laststep in the book is really taking that
time to look back. We're justso scared of fucking history for some fucking

(38:15):
reason. It's like, you know, when I learn more and more about
the history of the United States,it does not surprise me. I am
where I'm at because we're constantly relivinghistory. We've got to learn from our
past or also going to keep makingthe same mistakes, so I don't regret
how I've done what I've done.I love where I've come from and where

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I am now, and I dothink that I would have done some things
differently, and I don't think thatthere's anything wrong with that. Having said
that, I'm you know, it'sjust so fascinating how I really have no
clue what I'm going to do andall of my you know, I'm like,

(38:57):
you know, you know, likedo you want to people that you
say you don't know what you want? Lies? Like you do know,
you do know what you want.You just not allow giving yourself permission.
I'm like, fuck, if that'sreally the case here, what am I
not giving myself permission to do?Like two decisions? And I don't think
you have to do anything right noweither. You know. That's the other

(39:20):
thing about this is that you're beingfaced with this and you're sitting on the
fence and you're not feeling motivated tomove in either direction. And that's okay.
When one side gets painful enough,yeah, you'll make the decision.
Yeah, you don't have to rushinto going back to school. I mean
when we're when we rush into thingsthat aren't motivated by intuition, you know,

(39:45):
that's when that's when regrets happen,I feel like, and so just
why not just be with it fora little while? Now, I am,
that's what I'm doing. Thank you, Well, I figured, but
you know that was more of arhetorical not like you, but like the
general right right, yes of thelisteners, Yes, that is That's where
I'm at, And I'm actually findinga lot of peace in the unknown and

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the uncertainty of not knowing what mydecision is going to be and feeling like
that's the thing. What that like, being in the unknown and being in
the uncertainty, which is totally youknow, that physical versus spiritual world thing.
We people, we get so fuckinguncomfortable being in the unknown that we
just like rush to make a snapdecision and we just want to get out

(40:30):
of the unknown so quickly because it'slike painful and discomfort. Yeah, and
so just yeah, why not sitin it? There's like literally nothing wrong
with sitting in the unknown. Now. If you know, on the other
hand, and then you say you'reunknowing, then that's a whole different story.
But and I think that's why it'sso important for us to develop an
understanding of who we are. Yeah, you know, I think that's why

(40:54):
it's so important. Yeah, knowingyourself, I feel like is paramount to
any thing. If you're making decisionsfor other people or based on societal expectations,
or based on you know, whothe fuck knows what else. Yeah,
it's gonna lead you into a lifethat doesn't inspire you. It just

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is. And when you're not inspired, you're not going to be able to
do things in the world. You'renot going to be living an amplified life.
You're not going to be able tomake change and use your voice in
whatever way you feel inspired to useit. Yeah. I know you talk
a lot about tis the like innerinner work versus outer work, and I

(41:37):
think that they're they're both so soso important. But our society just takes
so much weight everything, everything,it's very external. Yeah. Yeah.
Wow, we're coming to an endhere, Brecily, so thank you so
much for being on, you know, our guest, And is there anything
else that you want to address beforewe wrap up this conversation station. They're

(42:00):
so serious, such a such aserious interviewer. I'm just I'm just so
good. Um. I want toinvite people if they my book is coming
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And if anyone would like a freecopy, you can go to permission
to leap dot today. That's HTTPpermission to leap dot today and I am

(42:25):
going to be sending out free copiesto people of the book. I love
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(42:45):
amplify and all the platforms at theAmplified co um. And you can join
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in there. Let's be amplified dotcommunity. Fact. Next week is our
final episode of season two. Yea, so good. So this is it

(43:06):
time to binge. Listen all thepast ones. If you haven't, you
can see our evolution. It's prettyfun, it is. Actually, it's
kind a good ride so far.All right, Amplifiers go be amplified.
Thank you miss Tays for a lovelyand beautiful interview. Pisco Scout