L'Erin Alta {on honoring your truths}

Welcome to Be Amplified the podcast! This week we are joined by the amazing L'Erin Alta as we dive into the conversation of truths and what it means to live in alignment with your highest truths. Check out the show notes to learn more about L'Erin at www.TheAmplifyCollective.com and get the extended cut by joining our Facebook community at www.BeAmplified.Community.

Episode Transcript

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You are listening to be Amplified thePodcast with Brian Tiis episode fifty three.
Hey, Amplifiers, welcome to beAmplified the Podcast. My name is Tayis
and I'm Brie Seely. We arethe co founders of the Amplified Collective,
a movement aimed at radically disrupting howpurpose driven women connect and operate in the

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world, because we believe it's notjust what you do, but who you
are that matters. Each week,join us for messages and interviews that will
leave you feeling amplified and ready tochange the world. Let's do this.
Good morning, Amplifiers. Taste Guyand Brie. See there's always that awkward

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pause, like do you think I'mgonna introduce you? Because I sometimes do
so it gets confusing. Yeah,we never really know. Yeah, night
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on her lap and she keeps movingher laptop so like so Brake gets like
a fum in full frontal of mybibs. She's wearing clothes, so you

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know it's still PG. But Idefinitely keep seeing Tice as boobs a lot
as we're recording today. They aremighty fine today, so they want attention
to all right, So one quickannouncement before we get into all this.
If you didn't hear the importance ofour invitation last week, let us please

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reiterate to you how much we wantto hang out with you in person.
We have a dinner party coming upin Los Angeles and it's gonna be ummying.
Yes, yes, yes, Sowe do these almost every month,
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going to be a good time.And we love our dinner parties. It's

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our it's what makes us so happyabout the Amplified collective. So we would
love to see you there. Yeah, that intimate in person connection piece,
because as I just read someone postedabout online, as much as virtual reality
wants to overtake our entire world,nothing will ever substitute an in person hug.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and we give loads

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of them at our dinner parties.So yes, we do amazing. So
we have a really amazing guest today. Learn Alta is a special, dynamic
soul. I found her through theinterwebs and I'm just obsessed with her words
and her presence and all of whoshe is. And she just drops a
lot of beautiful truths in our interviews. So that's coming up a little bit

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later. But one of the thingsthat she shared that is how she lives
and amplified life is through really livingand accessing and being aligned with her truth.
So we thought we would start thisconversation by talking about truth and what
that means, what that looks like, what accessing our truth is really about.
It's a word that and it getsthrown around in the spiritual community a

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lot, But what does it reallymean, why is it important? And
what happens when we don't know whatour truth is? So I want to
back up a hot second quick andstart off with this understanding that up until
a certain age, the quote unquotetruth that we live by aren't actually ours.
Yeah, typically there are things thatwe observe, there are things that

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were told, you know, they'reexpectations that are placed on us, their
societal norms that we adopt without question. And so this idea of truth and
really exploring your truth is kind ofchecking in with all of these things that
have been brought into your life throughexternal means, putting them through a filter

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of is this aligned with me ornot? And then in that process,
once you figure out what isn't aligned, once you clear out things that are
not your truth that you've maybe havebeen holding onto as your truth, then
rewriting new truths for yourself. Well. And I love that you started out
there because I think that's important tonote. I think before this millennium,

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really millennium century, the century onehundred years are, we never had the
conversation of what our truth is becauseour truth was directly aligned with the church
or the government. So if theking said that this was the real this
is what's true, we either believedit or we got killed. Right,
and was saying for the church,the Church told you what to believe based

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on the book, and that wasthe truth, and there's no questioning of
it. And if you questioned it, then you were kicked out of the
village or you were kicked out indicatedexactly. My great grandmother in the earlier
part of the nineteen hundreds got adivorce. Her husband was a bootlegger and

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an alcoholic, and she decided shedid not want to be married to him
anymore. And so they were very, very very Catholic, and she went
against the truth of the Catholic Churchand she divorced this man because he did
not deserve to be married to her, and she got excommunicated, she got
kicked out of the Catholic Church.Wow, because she questioned the truth.

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Yeah. Yeah, So a lotof our history is plagued and exemplified by
these people who went against the truth. I mean, look, what we
celebrated on July fourth is independence ofAmerica from Britain from England's truth from the
laws of England, and it requireda whole war for us to remove ourselves

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from that truth and start our owngovernment, and with supposedly age separation of
church and state. Not sure thatwe got there, but so we're coming
more and more into an awakening whereit is now of critical importance for our
evolution to be accessing and questioning andlooking at what is societals truths and what

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is our truth? Just like Breessaid, through that filter system, what
is true for the world, whatis true for me? And I think
one thing that I think is kindof important to also say before we really
get into it, is there's adifference between a lowercase truth and an uppercasee
truth. And I think we getthese confused a lot, and then we

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use our truths as a way tonot take responsibility and to be dogmatically close
minded to other people's beliefs. So, for example, if someone were to
say, you hurt me by yourbehavior and you lied to humanipul you know,
and you did all these things wrongand you suck pretty much, and

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your responses, well, that's notmy truth, right, Like my truth
is that I am perfect and Ididn't do any of those things. What
we're inherently doing there is we're usingwhat we call our truths as a weapon
against the other person. And that'snot the whole point of any of this
conversation about truths, about what isreal and what is here. And so

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we want to be careful when weuse the word truths and when we're accessing
our internal stuff, to not useit as vindication for why we're right and
someone else is wrong. And sothat's lowercase truth. Lowercase truth is our
opinion on something, our thoughts onsomething. It feels true to me that
this is going on, but itmay not feel true to you because we
have two different experiences, two differentperspectives, and we view life differently.

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So I think that that is thelowercase truth, and we have to honor
that because that's what's coming up forus right now. But lowercase truths change,
right, They kind of evolutionize overtime. What may have been aligned
and in truth for me when Iwas twenty may not be what's aligned and
in truth for me when I'm thirtyor forty or whatever. Can you just

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go into a little bit deeper theupper case truth then, and what that
is? Yeah, So hard.I think upper case truth is more like
maybe unchangeable truths about like universe andour relationship to it. So maybe an

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upper case truth is I've got one, Oh yeah, go for it.
An upper case truth is that weare souls living in human form. So
that's an upper case truth. That'ssomething that like is not changing unless unless
somehow, universally the universe decides thatwe're going to be souls living an alien

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form or whatever. Right. Butbut um, but that's not something I
mean, I guess some people wouldsay that that is an opinion, and
I think that that and I wantedto say that. So an uppercase truth
is like God is love, likethat is that is a truth. Now,
some people may not carry that truth, and that's fine. Just because

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it's an uppercase truth doesn't mean everyonehas to necessarily agree. They probably have
some upper case truths about their God, and that's fine that we honor them.
We need to make sure that justbecause it's something that's true for us,
whether it's slowercase or uppercase, otherpeople don't necessarily have to agree or
belong to that. So one ofthe things that as you know, spiritual

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women bring and I believe that Godis love, and that love is a
manifestation of God. I also believethat, you know, there is a
sense of non duality, that it'sall good. It's all a part of
some common evolution, you know,common goal future evolution, and it may
suck for us as an individual,but as a collective we have to go

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through these collective learnings and it's allgood and at the universe is on our
side. And so these are bigcapital truths that I didn't always carry.
I didn't always think this way.I used to be an atheist and very
committed to my anger against God.Not that atheists or anger against God,
but that was me. I wasan atheist and angry against God, and

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I, you know, so howcould I believe I didn't want to believe
in a god because also angry thatGod is such a sucky, shitty thing
causing so much terror in our planet, on our planet. So it's an
evolution of that truth. So thattruth is allowed to evolutionize too, but
it's more major and then our smallertruth of what's true for you right now,
Well, what's true for me rightnow is that I'm a human being

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and I fuck up a lot,and that's my truth in this moment,
and that's just where I'm at.Yeah, so let's talk. Let's talk
quickly about how we know what truthis versus truth, because, like we've
mentioned, things change, and someof the things that we are gifted as
truth when we are small or younger, or we see on TV or we

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read in a newspaper or whatever,we outgrow, and so what is that
process of Like, Okay, soI've had this thing that has been my
truth. Now here i am.I'm in this weird middle place where like
I don't really think that's my truthanymore, but I don't really then know
what my truth is. So what'sthat process look like? Well, I

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think we've talked about this a lotwhere we have to be careful with what
we identify ourselves with and being tooattached to having things be stagnant and stuck
and defining ourselves that way, andwe all do it where we're like,
well, the truth of who Iam is that I'm an artist, and
then we get close minded to whatelse our lives could be if we didn't

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so identify and get so caught upin needing this truth to be who we
are and so it's important to knowas we're talking about this, that everything
changes, and the more that wecan be curious and open to how things
change, the more we can flowwith the grace that's life and everything changes.
Everything changes, and it's so painfulwhen it does, specially things that

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we think are never going to change. So when we're transitioning or when we're
maybe stepping out from an earlier truth, I think it's important that we just
really get curious with you know thatthat served me at that point, and
now I do not think it's goingto serve me anymore. So I'm open

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to seeing what will serve me andwhat is next and what is my next
evolution? What is my next truth? Is what is the truth of this
moment inviting me to be in,inviting me in. So one of the
things that Tyson I talk about alot is using your feelings as a guide
to point you in the direction ofwhat is truth for you. And so

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oftentimes will rationalize things and be like, well, this truth worked for me
for so long and it's been mytruth, so it still has to be
a truth. And we like weget all up into our heads about it,
even though we're denying that it doesn'tfeel like truth, Like it feels
like shit if you feel into thisthought of this thing. So, for
example, for me with having kids, right, I've known for so long

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my truth is that I don't wantkids, and so for me to feel
into this idea of having children feelslike shit. It feels oppressive, it
feels constrictive, it feels uncomfortable ina way that's not a good discomfort because
I believe in discomfort heavily, butit's not a good discomfort. And so

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for me to be in that feelingstate, but then have the thoughts of
like, whoa, but this iswhat women do, women have babies.
So you know, I can logicmyself out of these feelings I'm having and
thus create a life that goes indirect opposition to my truth because I'm unwilling

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to feel what feels like truth inmy body. Yeah, And I think
the work then lies in not onlyaccessing our truth, but then expressing and
bringing forth the manifestation of that truth. For example, about three months of
me worth for somebody else's like myfirst job after college, I recognize that

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working for somebody else was never goingto make me happy, Like I could
realize this truth that there was somethingbigger that was calling me and that working
for somebody else was not going tobe the answer. But then it took
another six years, five years ofavoiding the call and working for other people
and hoping that some company was goingto be the answer for all my prayers

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for me to finally honor this truth. And the reason why it's so scary
is because it invites us to completelychange our lives. It invites us to
get uncomfortable. It invites us tothe good uncomfortable as the country. And
you know it's yeah, so youknow our truth. It's like our guiding

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force. It's like our north star, and we it's our responsibility to be
checking in with it as often aspossible. And people are like, well,
I don't know what my truth is? You do? We all do.
It's not like Brie and Eye orLearn anybody else some special access to
our truth that other people don't.We all have this innate capacity to be
with our true selves. The challengesthat we have so many ideas of what

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it should look like that it preventsus from actually being with what is here.
Now. Oh that's not to saythat in like ten years, I
could be working for somebody else andit could be the best thing ever,
because maybe at that point my truthhas changed and my truth is now calling
for me to be in an umbrellaof a team. And that's fine too,

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go ahead, But I was goingto add on to this idea of
us, each of us having theability and power to access our truth is
I always like to remind people whenthey're getting started with this, like,
if this isn't a daily practice thingfor you, it's not going to come
immediately. It's not like you're goingto sit and be like, okay,

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what's my truth and it's just goingto come to you. It is a
it's a progression. It's like muscletraining. You don't walk into the gym
and pick up the two hundred poundweights straight off the bat. You're going
to fucking kill yourself. Start witha little five pound weights and you try
them out and see how they feel. And then you move up to the

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ten pound weights and you try themout, you see how they feel.
But you can't just jump right intoit, right. It's about creating that
space every day. And Tyson Ialways recommend start with things that are small,
start with things that you don't havean emotional attachment with, just so
you can get familiar with this feelingof what is my truth. And then
as you're building that muscle, youcan start applying it to more important things

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without your logic, your emotions,all that shit getting in the way.
But you have to start somewhere.And I know a lot of my clients
and a lot of people we encounterso often are like, well, I
did it once and it didn't work. You have to continuously show up for
it on a consistent basis in orderfor it to show up for you.

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It's like building any relationship in theworld, Tyson, I didn't get to
where we are on the first daythat we met. In our relationship,
right, it's been this process ofus opening up to one another and getting
to know each other and all thesethings. And the same goes for you
getting familiar with and building a relationshipwith your truth. So I want to

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share how this accessing our truth isa really powerful way to get us out
of a chance. And then Iwant to talk about how we can then
not only access our truth, whichis what we've been talking about, but
then share our truth and put ourtruths out there, so because that's a
whole another beast. Yeah. Yeah, So I do a lot of work
with women around worthiness and feeling unworthy, and I call it the worthiness WOMO

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because I'm finding that it's not justa moment of oh I feel unworthy.
Oh I'm back to feeling worthy,and it's actually it's so much deeper than
that for us women. And thenwe get into this chance where all of
our thoughts, I'm unworthy, Ican't do this, I'm unworthy, I
can't do this, I suck,I'm broken, there's something deeply wrong with
me, and we get into thecycle. Now, for you, it
may not be about worthiness. Itcould be some other wounding that you have

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where you feel broken and you're feelinadequate. We all have moments where we
fall into the Sepate chance, andit's very debilitating. It prevents us from,
you know, showing up for otherpeople, It prevents us from feeling
good within ourselves. It feels verydebilitating, is what I'm trying to say.
And so what I found is thatwhen you're in those moments where it

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feels so debilitating in your head andyou feel so unworthy, if you can
ask yourself you know, is thistrue? Is this the voice of truth?
Then what we can start to dois separate that there is this voice
that is the manifestation of the wound, and there's the truth of who we
really are, and it's two differentthings. And if we can create space

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between these thoughts and who we are, in that space, we can start
to look at those thoughts and say, I don't that is not true.
That is not true. Okay.So it oftentimes when we're in that chance,
we're believing those thoughts. We're believingthat to be true about us.
And so what I'm inviting is askingthe question, whatever question serves you for

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me, is is this the truthof who I am? For you?
It may be is this real?For you? It may be what if
this wasn't true? You know,I don't you have to play with it.
But when you can separate yourself fromthose thoughts and then you're like,
okay, this is me and thosethoughts are the manifestation of the worthiness wound.
Okay, So then what is true? What is the truth, And
the truth of who I am isthat I'm a whole woman. The truth

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of who I am is that Iam a perfect soul. The truth of
who I am is that this isjust a manifestation of the worthiness wound.
So you see, we're using thistool of accessing our truth to actually then
to call out and point out thethoughts that are actually not true. The
majority of us run our lives believingall these thoughts, Believing that we're unworthy,
believing we can't make the money thatwe want, believing that, you

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know, all the things that keepus feeling paralyzed. The more we can
separate ourselves from those thoughts, themore we can start to find space,
and in that space we can findhealing, and then we can actually do
something about it. So I feellike that may be helpful for all of
you as we're navigating this idea ofaccessing a truth. But let's talk about
now speaking a truth, because thisis a big one. Like because so

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in the one I was talking aboutwith you know, me not having children,
I kept that as a closely guardedsecret for so long. I didn't
feel safe in the world sharing thatas my truth because it went so against
the popular majority truth for so manywomen. Yeah, and I mean now

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I've clearly come out with it asmy truth, and now it's become a
popular, popular, majority truth fora lot of other women, and so
it's more safe to share that.But I remember in college saying something about
how I didn't want to have kidsand just getting berated, like so much
so that I went up to myroom and cried, like just these women

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telling me about how terrible I wasand how you know, I was just
all these things because this was likethe popular truth, right, and so
for me to come out and sayit, even the day that I went
on the Today Show, the daythat I submitted that Huffington Post piece about
being child free and being sterilized andall these things, like fuck, I

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had a panic attack, Like itwas so scary to take this truth that
I know that I can be atpeace within my heart and take a stand
for it in front of other people. That's a whole different conversation, right,
Yeah, So for those of youwomen who cannot speak your truth because

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you're waiting for somebody to die,I honor you, you know, for
those of you who are so afraidto speak your truth because of the consequences
and what that means for your lifeand being fired, being discriminated against,
being bullied, being hit again,you know, being being physically abused.
You know, I honor you,m you know for those of you who

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feel so afraid to speak your truth, because it will radically change your life
and you're not You're not going tofeel safe anymore in your life. I
honor you. You know. Thisis not an easy conversation, and we
all have to find a way tonavigate our truths. And the reason why
it's important to speak your truth isbecause that's how we create an alignment in

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our lives and in our souls.And but it's not always appropriate, and
it often feels unsafe, and sowe have to navigate what that looks like
and and make sure that um,we're being bold but also taking care of
ourselves. And so brief felt safeenough and felt supportive enough in our community

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to share a very unpopular truth bythe list whore Truth to the world.
And I think it's so beautiful.And I think these women who have the
courage to be so brave about thingsthat are so against what society depicts for
us women is so necessary and soneeded. And if you're listening and you
have one of these we all do. We all have these tips. But
if you feel this calling that speakingyour truth is going to liberate you in

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some way in your life. Yougotta do it, gotta do it,
and I got to do it.If you don't yet feel that way,
my invitation to you, you know, I didn't start. That wasn't the
first time, Like writing that piece, wasn't the first time that I came
out with my truth. Right,My invitation is to find someone. Maybe

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it's just one person, yeah,but the liberation you can feel on a
personal level from just sharing it withone person or one of my former clients
right now has a blog, ananonymous blog, and she gets to share
her truth there fully and completely withoutanyone knowing that it's her. I think

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I'm one of three people that knowswhat her blog is and that it's her.
So if you have the opportunity toentrust one person your truth, please
please please do use someone you trust, someone that's going to love you and
support you and you know, holdyou no matter what that truth is.

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Find that person and share it,even if it's just with one person.
And this isn't share it with amillion people in order for it to be
liberating and in order for it tomake an impact, and it's not only
liberating for the South, which itis, but it's liberating for us women.
You know, we need more women'sstories in the world. We need
more examples of the varying degrees ofwhat looks like to be a woman and

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to live a life as a woman. And we need to share the messy
and we need to share all ourexperiences, you know, I we for
example, we don't often talk abouthaving miscarriages. It seems like a sense
of shame to have a miscarriage,yet it's so frequent, that happens so
often and the minute. I cannotspeak from personal experience, but I can't

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imagine that if you have something likethis going on in your life and then
you read these stories of these womenwho have experienced something similar, you immediately
feel this sense of I'm not alonein this, and that required them being
brave about sharing about their their story. Right. So it's a collective liberation
when we can really rally around ourtruths and really speak our stories and do

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the work necessary to put ourselves outthere in whatever way, Like we said,
whatever way feels best for you.You know, we do not need
everybody to have a billion follower platforms. We need everybody to just see who
they are and to just show upin that truth. And you know,
the word truth. Like this islike when they start talking about like something

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like intuition a million times to startgetting like, wait, what's intuition again?
Like it's so it's so it's oneof these concepts that are so like
just beyond our head. It's sobeyond like what we can comprehend, and
it's so not touchable. So it'slike, what's truth, what's intuition?
What's this? What's higher self?What's soul self? What's this self?

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Right? But the more the morethat you play with it, though,
the more tangible it becomes. Right. So, the feeling that I have
when I'm accessing my tuition feels sofucking real to me, right right.
The feeling that I get when Iget to know feels so fucking real,
but only because right now, I'vebeen doing this work for the last ten

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years, right, So the morethat you play with it, the more
real it will become to you,right right, totally, And this is
not a head concept, you know. It's like trying to teach him light.
It's so hard. We can't.It's very hard to teach something it's
this is what we're doing, iswe're opening up the gateway for you to

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play with accessing her own lowercase anduppercase truth and playing with getting curious with
how it changes. And maybe it'llbe helpful for you to look at what
were your truths in the past,you know, like it's it's easier to
look in retrospect. So maybe wecan start there, Like in retrospect in
that relationship, my truth was Iwasn't in love with him, but I
thought I was at the time,So what was that difference? How do

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I know that that's my truth?Right? Like, start playing there and
see what happens. And you know, you can tell when a woman is
aligned in her truth. You canso tell how she lives her life when
it's fully aligned in uppercase and herlowercase truths. And so follow and surround
yourselves with more of those women,see how they operate their lives, and

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you. Okay, So first off, okay, I'm so sorry, but
I'm gonna have to say this again. I said it before we were recording,
and I just feel the need toshare this with the world again.
But I literally have the song.You know. It's all about that base,
about that base, no trouble likestuck in my head, and I

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just I needed to say that againbecause I feel I just need to make
sure that the listeners also get thatsong second their head for the remaining portion
of our conversation today, and nowyou have perspective about what's going on and
tell you his head, Wow,we're having this coming. But in any

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case, we have a really specialguest with us today. I've been I
met Learned through a Facebook group thatI'm in on the Facebook Worlds, and
she just has such a grace anda power to her that I was immediately
drawn to her work and her essence. And it's just such an honor and
a privilege to have you on ourpodcast. Learn Thank you so much.

(31:41):
That's a beautiful introduction. I'm reallyhonored and excited to be here. You
two make me smile, so I'mexcited to dive in beautiful conversation with you.
Well, I'm going to give thelisteners a little more background on you,
just so they can have a kindof a premise. So. Laren
Alta is a soul guide, shadowdiver, and spiritual teacher known for burning

(32:04):
down the stale, fluffy, boringself help formulas and women ignite true personal
liberation. Her workshops, retreats andone on one intensive has intensives sorry have
been called transformation temples for unruly soulfulwomen. She believes that loss, grief,

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and pain are healing initiations and ifhonored, they will fortify you,
bringing through, bringing you through theshadows into the light of your soul.
Using movement, meditation, ritual art, and ancient practices, Larin guides women
on a spiritual journey, helping themsurrender their facades, shed their fears,

(32:45):
and finally come home to her themselves. I'm going to start betting on how
many times Bree stumbles over the bioreadinglike I'm gonna do it over even here.
It's I'm I have so many questionstoo. I mean, that's part
of all, I'm fumbling. I'mlike, I want to ask about this
and this and this and all thesethings. So if you were to read

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her resume, it would include Microsoftnonprofits large and small, as well as
a five year stint as a Macmakeup artist. But what should really be
there are the twenty three countries she'sstudied healing and backwater ashrams, jungle temples
and mountain monasteries, working with spiritualteachers, medicine women, and shamans from
many faiths and spiritual paths to learnabout trauma, healing and transformation. Oh

(33:31):
my god, you're like amazing.The essence of her work is distilled to
freedom, supporting you and finding it, cultivating it and living it. Because
your power is in this moment,in this breath, in this one,
courageous against all odds, bravely true. Yes, your bio alone is like

(33:58):
the best thing. We don't evenneed to interview, Like we don't need
to and like the bio is done, We're done. That was That's amazing.
Oh I love you all so much, Thank you so my love.
Tell us what does it look likefor you to live an amplified life?
The only answer I really have istelling the truth and being the truth no

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matter what the circumstances or expectations are. I think we live in a culture,
and particularly a culture where the expectationsof women are that we modify and
mold and shape ourselves to be morepalatable and living an amplified life for me
means being fully true to who Iam at all times and all moments,
with no matter who I am orwhat the circumstances are. That's done such

(34:45):
a great, unique answer as well, So I want to dive in.
I told Tays earlier that there wasone aspect like Brie already has this whole
conversation planned, like she already haslike all of the question just a question.
So in relation to this, UM, I want to know how you
use ritual to regularly connect with yourtruth and find that within yourself. I

(35:10):
love ritual so much, and partof it began as a child. I
think my relationship to ritual began asa child because I grew up in UM
and in the church and the ChristianChurch, and the denomination is African Methodist
Episcopalian. So the part about saythat sentence fast right, The part about
Methodist is the part that I reallyloved because it's method out method method.

(35:37):
Oh now, I can't even sayit a methodology in the sense that every
Sunday we have the same structure ofservices, and so that ritual of having
church service begin have a middle part. And in the same way as something
I looked forward to, I knewhow we were going to open, I
knew how we were going to createa sacred space together. I knew how
we were going to navigate it andhow we would close it. And so

(35:59):
ritual is a daily practice for me. One of my daily rituals is an
hour of the Pastena meditation every morning. Sometimes I do at evening too,
which helps me just come into myself. I think of as a soul cleanse,
as a presence, as just awitnessing of myself of what's true in
that moment, and so whatever's truegets to emerge, whether that's anger or

(36:21):
sadness, or questions or anxiety orconfusion, or just solid confidence and certainty.
And that's the part that really anchorsme in witnessing myself. It's a
daily ritual of just being present towhat is. For those who are listening
who may not be familiar, canyou explain a little bit about what the

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pastna is. Sure. So thepasena in the way that I've learned it,
in the way that it was taughtto me is a is the meditation
practice that was passed down from theBuddha and went through different parts of Asia
and ended up in me and marAnd the way to learn it is through
a ten days silent meditation retreat.That's the only way to actually learn it.

(37:04):
And I've done four at this point, and it's the hardest thing in
the world. You don't talk toanybody, you don't look at any you
can't have eye contact, you don'ttouch anybody. You are just in this.
You can't have eye contact. No. Yeah, it's as if you
are on a solo meditation retreat andyou are there and you just sit in
your shit for ten days, foreleven hours a day, just meditating,

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and you learn the practice. Butall the stuff comes up, all of
the gunk that you're trying to avoidand not pay attention to and be cute
for or polished for the outside world. No, you just sit in it
until it shifts. What do youdo for the other thirteen hours? You
get a little sleep, you eata little and there's some periods where you

(37:52):
can relax and integrate, but otherthan that, that's that's all you do.
Okay, So let's talk about spiritsfor bypassing, my friend, because
I like you and I are thatsame level, and I would love to
know more about your thoughts on spiritualbypassing and why you know it's so hard
for women to show up in theirreal truth? What is it where we

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lose our power so quickly and weuse these spiritual practices to numb ourselves instead
of to actually go through the ship. I think there's so much currency in
being numb, right, there's somuch value in being checked out but looking
good, playing the part, soothingthe ego that people. We live in
a culture that will, for themost part, never ask us what's actually

(38:44):
going on, how we actually feel. We could live from birth to death
without anyone actually inquiring about how weare actually feeling, what we actually think
and believe who we truly are.So I think it's not just women,
which is true, it's ency tobe pretty and you know, live on
a certain surface level. Let tosay you can't be pretty and have depth,

(39:07):
of course you can, but butit's no it's time Oh my god,
no, I need to get offmy high horse. We just had
another podcast interview where I was likemaking sure everyone knew how perfect I was.
I need to I need to stopit. I am not perfect people.
I do not believe I'm perfect.Oh I love it, though,

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I mean, your sense of humoris so amazing. We need levity,
that's the other piece, right,Like spirituality, it gets either this like
super only focus on the light andthe fluffiness or what I consider fluffiness,
or focus on the hard and thestruggle and the like working, working,

(39:50):
suffering, and there's no levity.So I love the laughter and the joy
that you bring to the conversation.It's so necessary because we're human. We
need to laughter. Heels. Wejoke so much about spiritual shit. Like
the stuff that spiritual people do islike fucking banana. It's ridiculous. It
is ridiculous. We laugh about itall the time. What's your favorite thing?

(40:12):
What's the thing that makes you laughthe most? Okay, are you
ready, Tice or are we goinghere? Do you know we're going?
So? Tis and I were bothgifted with m Yoni stones with For those
of you that don't know, itis an egg looking thing that you stick
up your hu haa that you stickup your vagina, and it is typically
made of something like jade or rosequarts or one of these quote unquote healing

(40:35):
okay sot on her altar. Yeah, as a representation of her root chakra,
which is amazing. I didn't knowwhat else, what else do you
do with it? I'm like,I don't really like you use it as
a yo, like you stick itup your yoni, Like that's what I
know. But I just think it'sit's humorous to me, the lengths at
which we go to be spiritual,you know, m I think that's the

(40:59):
thing from me. I just Ithink it's really funny and how um necessary
it feels to blame the planets forwe are our ship and mercury retrograde and
there is of course, of coursewe're part of the thing. We're part
of nature, and people who aremore sensitive on our tuned of course they're

(41:20):
affected. But you know, there'sa lot of people who use these planets
as excuses for why shit sucks.Yeah, I agree. I think I
think we're part of an alive universe, right, Like that's not avoidable.
We know that and there's a senseI've seen a pattern of kind of throwing

(41:45):
your hands up, like no,I can't do anything because Mercury's here,
or Venus is there, or thesun, and it's like, where's your
personal personal responsibility in this alive universeis it's we're all connected and your responsibility
and action counts. Or like,I'm a scorpio, so I get to
be a bitch, like it's justyou know, like it's still fine.

(42:05):
It's just my scorpio's coming out.I'm sorry, I can't help it.
And I'm a taurist, so Iget to be stubborn and selfish. It's
fine. I'm a taurist too,are you? I am? I like
to stay focused. I'm using thatword from now on tice, not focused
exactly. Thanks for that, Okay, So back to spiritual bypassing yes because

(42:29):
you are you are. You're sharingso beautifully about numbing and I love that.
Keep going with that. So partof it, part of it that's
true in my work and kind ofhow I approach my work, because this
has been a big pivot for mebecause I've been doing my work in the
way that I've been doing it fortwenty years, almost twenty years, seventeen

(42:49):
years this year, and my workis really potent, is deep, it's
intense, and it's intimate, andit really happens in person, in sacred
face with the women or the womenthat I'm working with in person, and
I brought my I started my websitein two thousand and eleven and started trying
to have this internet business and gotkind of caught up in the internet in

(43:15):
twenty eleven, and what I learnedwas how much people externalize their spiritual practice
based on what you're And I lovea Yoni's stone. I think that's fantastic,
but people put it in their externaltools and trinkets instead of internalizing their
internal spiritual process. And I thinkthat is where the spiritual bypass happens.

(43:37):
That we put it in all ofthese things, which are useful tools,
but ultimately the internal transformation has tohappen internally. It's not about wearing the
right beads or the fanciest yoga pantsor the most designer coconut water. You
can do all of those things andstill be disconnected from your soul. Or

(44:00):
you can do none of those thingsand eat pork crimes and have a deep,
rich, spiritual world. So andI feel like that's actually I've never
thought about it this way before,but now that you're saying it almost feels
like this is also how cultural appropriationbecomes a thing where we get obsessed with
the trinkets and the things that wefeel like is the external that somehow is

(44:21):
going to get us somewhere, butwe don't actually incorporate it and use it.
You know. One of the things. I am an avid chanter.
I chant every day. Chanting ismy connection to God. It is very
sacred to me. And people haveasked me, well, why don't you
teach this or why don't you,you know, educate people on chanting.
I'm like, because it's not mine, it's it's my hearts, and it's

(44:44):
it's India's and I'm a white girlfrom Maryland, you know, like,
I'm not in a place or spaceto be teaching this and make it real
reverence to the culture that it drawit came from. I love that it's
that's so wise and very rooted intruth, right like that that is to

(45:04):
me what spirituality is about, iswhat it's rooted in the truth. And
I love that you're not trying tocapitalize on that or make money from it,
but that you're using it as yourown process for transformation and healing and
spiritual connection to God. Yeah.And I feel like if we as a
collective have done this with yoga,it would be a different conversation. Absolutely.
Yeah, I love that. Oh. I don't have any other I

(45:25):
don't have a question. I justwant to I just want to keep talking.
So laren being guided by your truthson a you know, regular,
constant, frequent, whatever basis whathappens for you in the process of your
truths shifting. So we all havethis where, you know, especially as

(45:46):
we're moving from children into adulthood,the things that we were taught as truths
by our culture or our family orwhatever change. So when you're you know,
in your practice and you come uponan truth that you realize it's no
longer truth for you, can youtalk a little bit about what that looks
like. Oh, that's a goodquestion. Yeah, absolutely, And I

(46:07):
can go back to that transition pointwhen you were saying, transition from childhood
to adulthood. So I have alwaysI was raised in a family of college
educated folks and educators, so I'mfourth generation college educated from both sides of
my family have undergraduate and graduate degrees, going back to my great grandfather who

(46:29):
had two undergraduate and two graduate degreesCournell University. So right, so education
he was born two years after enslavementended, so so education was liberation and
a lot of ways for my family. So there was never an expectator.
I never a question of whether Iwas going to go to college or not.

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It was just what college are yougoing to go to? And that
was it. That was There wasno there was no other conversation around education
post high school. So I knewI wanted to take a year off and
travel, but I was caught upin the momentum of going from high school
and I just went to college andI was unhappy. I didn't really want
to be there, but I kindof muscled through. I figured out how

(47:13):
to survive it and was miserable.So the summer after my first year of
college, I told I sat mymom down and I said, Okay,
I'm going to take a year offand just I want to go to India.
I want to see the world.I want to travel. And she
looked at me as if I hadseven heads and turned like you know,
spotted or something, and was like, oh, no, no, I
don't know what that means. Likeliterally, she said, what does that

(47:36):
mean? We don't do that inthis family. You're going to go back
to college and finish school because that'swhat we do, right, That's the
cultural norm that I grew up in. And so I said, oh,
okay, well, I I sogo back to college and completely stepped out
of what was true for me,completely stepped out of what I knew my
heart and soul were telling me todo for myself, because I was following

(47:58):
someone else's expectation about who I wasand how I was supposed to live my
life for the first real time.Like my Mom's pretty flexible in a lot
of ways, but this was notone of those things. And I went
back my sophomore year and hit hita back, rock bottom depression that I
couldn't get out of. That Icouldn't I couldn't go to class, I

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couldn't get There was times when Iwas literally laying on the floor and couldn't
get up off of the floor toanswer my door because I was so out
of alignment trying to please someone elsethat I couldn't get back in my flow.
I was so disconnected, and soat the end of that year,

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I went back to my mother andsaid, well, I don't care what
we do in this family. I'mtaking a year off and I have to
figure out what's true for me andstart following my own path. So that
was kind of where our paths divergedin the wood, and I came,
I came back to school and droppedout again, and then eventually I did
graduate eight years after my incoming class. But I had to do it my

(49:04):
way and on my own time.So part of what I've learned through all
that it took a lot of yearsof reckoning with myself and with my family,
and because there's like purse strings attachedand money and expectations and family reputation
and you know, all this stuffthat's muddled up in what happens when you're
true to yourself. It's I saytruth, because that's the lesson that I
got at the end of it.But it took a lot of scars and

(49:28):
pain and disappointment of other people atprojecting and pushing that against me to really
trust myself at all costs. Andso that's what I've learned that even if
the world doesn't understand or is disappointment. Even if my mother, who's probably
the most important person in my life, doesn't understand, I have to choose

(49:49):
me because I know what happens whenI don't. Yeah, that's such a
powerful thing that so many people gothrough, and a lot of people I
know don't have the courage to standup for themselves and their truths. Um
and so I mean, how Idon't know if you can go any deeper
into what that process was for you, or if there were you know,

(50:12):
shifting relationship dynamics, because I knowthat this can be something so incredibly painful
to go against the grain of whatyou know. We've been you know so
many and not to say that mymom does this. Mama, I love
you. She's totally listening right now. But you know the moms that are
like I raised you, You're mykid, You do what I say.

(50:34):
So, you know, was therewas there any shift in that relationship?
But how do you how did youkind of reconcile that if you're willing to
go there? Of course, sure, Well this is where my tour and
focus is very useful. Love it, you know, And so I've told

(50:54):
this story several different times, andmy mother has heard me tell it um
and she still has a lot ofresistance around it. She still has a
lot of pain around it because eventhough I have my degree and I am
successful in my own way and havea life that you know, is great,
and I because her fear was thatif I didn't go to college,

(51:15):
I would fall into poverty. Andso even though none of those fears came
true, she still has She's stillit's still painful for her to hear that
I was depressed, that I thatshe was doing something to me that was
impactful in a hurtful way, youknow, all these things. So part
of it is is trusting, learningto trust myself ultimately that and knowing that

(51:42):
it's not always going to be pretty, that it's not always going to feel
good, that everyone's not going toget a lot like anticipating that, not
saying to make it happen right,but to anticipate that you can't be a
people pleaser and a self pleaser allat the same time. And so learning
how to trust myself and give myselfwhat I needed, and to still engage
in the conversations with my mom aroundit, so to not shut her off

(52:06):
or block her off, but tostill stay connected. And I've had colleagues
or friends of mine, people whoI literally grew up with, are all
PhDs, mds, have graduated MBAs, are very high achievers and successful in
very traditional ways. And I've hadsome of them say, oh, Laren,

(52:27):
when are you going to just settledown and have a normal life.
What are you running away from?I've been to twenty three countries, and
instead of saying, oh, what, that's interesting, what let's talk about
your adventures, It's like, whatare you running away from that? You
want to do the world, andyou don't want to just buy a house
and have two point five kids.So kids, it's I forget about the
white picket fence and the white picketfence, right and I that's not my

(52:51):
dream. It's never been my dream. It's not fulfilling. I know that
if I was chasing that dream empty, I would feel as depressed as I
did in my, you know,sophomore year of college. So it's still
it's this continuous conversation and trusting myselfto still create the life I want to
live. So I am apparently Ihave found out in the past few months

(53:16):
going through my Sadden return. Iam turning twenty eight in June, so
apparently that's happening, Like that's thething, And I am realizing how my
truths are changing, my values arechanging, and what I want in my
life is changing. And it's beensuch a fascinating experience of finding finding your

(53:40):
own way through a world that isso consumed in making you feel like who
you are is bad and wrong.And I love that you dive into these
deeper conversations with people about grief andtrauma and wounding because it's so important and

(54:01):
I'm curious why, like what whatgot you to a place where you felt
called to talk about these things asopposed to the other fluffy things that I
guess one could be talking about asa as a coach and the healer and
the teacher. Um. I wouldnever be satisfied with superficial conversations just a

(54:23):
taurus. No, it can't bethe taurus. That's not what it is.
I think it's I think it's thewell part of I don't have all
the answer to that. I don'tknow exactly why you don't have like a
scorpio in there somewhere, No scorpioTauris and Scorpio opposite. I think that's
a little Taurisi though, too,because I have zero tolerance for professional conversations.

(54:46):
But also maybe in you know,old soul, I like, yeah,
we're trying to just blame some ostiologicalphenomenon for her desire to actually just
have depth and meaning in her life. I think it's all a right,
it's old soul, it's Taurus,it's it's who I, who I was
born to be, essentially, AndI think that's the thing. I think,

(55:08):
if we all gave ourselves permission tobe who we actually are, we
would have a lot deeper meaning inour lives. Wait can you repeat that?
Because that was some serious fucking truthI said in my self, permission
to be who we actually already are. Yeah, we would have deeper meaning
in our lives, Like if weweren't always striving to be better, to

(55:30):
improve, to pretend to look good, if we weren't trying to lose the
last ten pounds or you know whatever, and just like loved and except who
we actually are right now, wewould be able to be connected to ourselves,
each other, the God, theworld so much more deeply. Not
only do I have full body goosebumps. But I also just got tears in
my eyes, so that's a micdrop moment. We interviewed our friend Luna

(55:53):
and she calls goosebumps tooth bumps.M I love that. Bray just got
some truth bumps. I love it. I don't have any questions. I
just wanted to keep talking, SoI just keep talking and we'll just just
your words. And you're just sowise. You're just you know, no,

(56:15):
You're like um, You're like justthis wise. I just imagine you
like a sage, like a goddessysage, and I'm standing at a picture
of you and you're bald and beautifulwith your dark lips, and ah,
okay, done, I'm done.Thank you. One everything she just said

(56:37):
was true and two. So Ithink that one of the first steps with
this is a lot of people justdon't give themselves permission. They don't give
themselves permission to do this. Sodo you have any tips or advice?
Like everyone always asks like, oh, how did you stop giving a fuck
what other people think of you?And I'm like, I just gave myself
permission to do it, and Ijust did it. So do you have

(56:58):
any thoughts on like how to breakfree it, like into our own truth.
Yes, I think it's helpful tothink about it like concentric circles.
Part of what gets us jacked upis that we start from the outside in,
right, we start trying to lookgood for the world the outside.

(57:21):
How do we present well even ifwe're empty, even if we're disconnected,
even if we're falling apart inside.As long as the image is good and
no one really knows, then thenwe were good. And eventually most people
reach a point in their life thatthey realize that's not working anymore, but
that that has hit a wall.And whether that means they start then you

(57:42):
know, some people get in they'relike okay, they start going inside and
say, okay, how can Ishift that? Or they start keep going
to plastic surgery or more diets ormore money or more Mala beads or more
whatever they think the external world isgoing to solve. Wait, is not
gonna save my life? I don'tunderstand, but I spent one hundred and
eight dollars how it goes for you? I have really prised one hundred and

(58:08):
eight dollars. Is that like athing? Of course, it is anything
Oh my god, yoga related isone hundred and eight dollars. I learned
something new every day. Any lueleven pants free is one hundred and eight
dollars. Oh my mind is blown. I you all are hilarious. I'm

(58:30):
just grateful you need a TV show. I'm like looking for more. Do
you know someone? I mean,I mean we are open to making connections
if you know people, so soI think part of it is like,
how do you really not care whatpeople think? Is starting with the most

(58:51):
core concentric circle, The internal concentriccircle is you and and that's where we
go back to accepting who you areare, feeling what it feels like to
be uncomfortable in your body, feelingwhat it feels like to have grief and
sadness with yourself, Like what doesthat disappoint? What does that feel like?
Honoring it, acknowledging, accepting it, not fighting it, not resisting

(59:15):
it. And once you're actually init, not just theorizing, not just
talking about it, not trying tofix anything, it'll shift, it'll change.
And then the next concentric circle oryour intimate relationships, right like your
family, your siblings, not evenyour siblings, your children, like your
partner that, but people often gothere. They're trying to fix their partner,

(59:36):
trying to fix their kids, they'retrying to make sure everybody, and
they're still crumbly, crumbly disconnect onthe inside. Crumbly that's the best description
for someone being out of their body. They're crumbly crumbly, right, like
dry, disconnected, hard, Yeah, and then one so one. But
you can't have a really sustainable,loving, nourishing, transformative connection with people

(01:00:00):
in that second circle if you don'thave it with yourself. And then it's
your community, your intimate community,family, friends, colleagues, that,
and then it's share larger community,and then it's the world, not the
other way around. So sit withyourself and see what's there. Okay,
let's talk about this because yes,for all of this, and let's talk

(01:00:23):
about the social justice perspective, becausein the social justice perspective, there's actually
very little self right and at leastfrom the outside. You know, there's
obviously the individuals who may be doingit differently, but from the outside,
it feels to me that the socialjustice world is really focused on changing the
external and not a lot of selfcare. And so where can we find

(01:00:46):
a middle ground where we can beactivists and do work in the social justice
realm without losing ourselves and without gettingcrumbly. It has to start with the
self. It all starts with theself. As you mentioned in the introduction.
I've worked in nonprofits large and small. I have friends who are outside

(01:01:06):
of the nonprofit in industrial complex andare very much frontline leaders of a lot
of powerful, transformative, radical socialjustice movements. And I've known people both
in and outside of the nonprofit worldwho have terrible self care. And so
while their nonprofits are doing good work, they're treating their colleagues, they're treating

(01:01:30):
their employees terribly. So it's atoxic environment. Even though the world sees
the progress, there are still humanbeings who are being impacted negatively. And
so you can't make productive change externallyif you aren't treating people who work for

(01:01:50):
you. Well. I don't careif it's nonprofit or corporate America, I
don't care. You know, ifyou have a megaphone or if you're behind
a computer all day, you stillhave to take care of yourself so that
you can take care of other peoplewith loves. Yes, Otherwise it's more
destructive. Yeah, and I lovethat we're talking about this because oftentimes I
feel like the self care stuff,the self love stuff that you know,

(01:02:15):
doing our own inner work is oftenseen as selfish and um, you know
as Torrians as well, notoriously selfish. So can you dive into that a
little bit about like, you know, self care, self work, all
this stuff is selfish. I don'tthink selfish is a bad word. Yeah,

(01:02:37):
this is how Yeah, she justsaid it. She just dropped it.
You know what I'm I have Scorpiorising, scorpion moon. I can
handle your tour. Yeah, okay, bring it. You know, I
don't. I think because quiet asit's kid, people who are trying to
take care of everybody else and nottaking care of themselves are being selfish too,

(01:02:59):
right, Like they're still trying tofeel good by taking care of other
people, which is a selfish desire. Just because it's not going to beginning
and it's not ending with them,I mean it is, just because it's
going to someone else first doesn't meanit's not selfish. So I think we
have to take the charge and thestigma out of being selfish because it's,

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um, it's this distorted. It'slike if you have a distorted or disordered
relationship to food. Food itself isnot bad, it's your relationship to it.
So it's how do we change ourrelationship to getting our needs met in
a way that still feels generative andloving and spills over? How can we
live from the overflow of that?Because I think part of it is we're

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so undernourished, so malnourished with selfcare and actually taking care of our real
needs, not the superficial ones,but our real needs to be seen,
to be witnessed, to be lovedby ourselves, that we get it all
bent out of shape. But ifwe did that truthfully, we would have
so much more to give other peoplewithout needing something in return. Done So

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good. Tea stress message me andshe's like, how are we on time?
And I'm like, we're so overso good, let's just keep talking
for next three hours. It's totallyfine. Learn you don't have anywhere else
to be right good saying, well, what we'll do is we'll wrap up
this portion and then we'll just takethis into our extended cut because I have

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two really good questions I've been likeperculating on and I'm excited to ask you
so if you're listening, well youare listening if you're hearing this, So
you're listening. So join our Facebookgroup if you're not there already at www
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interview where she takes off her braand it's divine and amazing and larn.

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For those of people who are listeningand want to know more about you and
your divine self, where can theyfind you? You can find me at
Sister Fire s I s T Er F I r E dot com.
I'm in the middle of a rebrand, but that will always lead you to
me amazing. And are you onsocials? Where are you on the platforms?

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Instagram is my favorite social to playin stock So you can find me
at laren ALTA l E r In A l T Hey amazing. Well,
I'm gonna go have a brand newfollower right now. Yeah, I'm
going right now. Now you haveto, Oh, now you have to.
I love it all right, Well, um, go be amplified people,

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go find us on all the socials. We love social media. We
are on their way too often.You're welcome to find us at the amplified
code. Thank you so much larnfor sharing your voice with us today.
We so appreciate you. Obviously,we're like googling over you and go be
amplified people. Thank you,