Episode: Building OT Cybersecurity That Works in the Real World
Pub date: 2025-09-30
Get Podcast Transcript →
powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarization
Industrial environments are complex. Aging systems, distributed plants, and a crowded vendor landscape make “buy another tool” a tempting but often costly reflex.
In this episode, Dino Busalachi talks with Danielle “DJ” Jablanski, about moving from paper programs to measurable progress in OT security. They address why competence and capacity must come before capabilities, how to right-size your technology stack through tool rationalization, and why interdependence mapping is foundational for real resilience.
- 00:00:00 – Why OT maturity often stalls
- 00:06:00 – Where to focus first: assets, segmentation, and access
- 00:08:20 – Governance gaps: frameworks on paper vs. controls in practice
- 00:10:10 – Interdependence mapping beyond "crown jewels"
- 00:12:30 – Operators as first responders and safe-state realities
- 00:16:15 – Vendor and OEM ecosystems: who owns the response plan?
- 00:20:10 – Threat intel's limits: effects‑based security over means‑based noise
- 00:22:00 – Incident readiness in plants: plans, practice, and ownership
- 00:26:00 – Supply chain fragility and concentration risk in manufacturing
- 00:29:30 – Tool rationalization: measuring ROI, coverage, and usability
Links And Resources:
- Want to Sponsor an episode or be a Guest? Reach out here.
- DJ's Blog on Interdependence Mapping: https://claroty.com/blog
- Danielle Jablanski on LinkedIn
- Industrial Cybersecurity Insider on LinkedIn
- Cybersecurity & Digital Safety on LinkedIn
- BW Design Group Cybersecurity
- Dino Busalachi on LinkedIn
- Craig Duckworth on LinkedIn
Thanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Industrial Cybersecurity Insider? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube to leave us a review!
The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Industrial Cybersecurity Insider, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark
My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.