July 30, 2025 • 29 mins
In this Beyond Sunday episode, Dina, Pastor Zach, and Peter reflect on Pastor Roger Theimer’s final message, which challenges us to shift from retirement planning to heaven planning. Rooted in Psalm 90:12, the conversation explores how living with eternity in mind brings purpose to each day—and how the choices we make now can echo into forever.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to Beyond Sunday, the King of Kings
podcast, where we dive a littlebit deeper into our Sunday
message and see what we'retaking beyond Sunday.
My name is Dena Newsome and Iam honored to have back two of
my favorite guests.
Oh, that's so nice.
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm Julie Easley, just kidding.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
What would you say 50% of these podcasts?
We don't say our real names,that seems accurate, I would say
100% of the last five.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, something that we think works.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
it probably doesn't, and we just keep going with it.
But I'm going to say who I amtoday.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm Zach Zender, and you didn't ask, but I'm the
multi-site director of King ofKings.
Yeah, and I did not ask.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Nobody asked, I just wanted to say it.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm glad you could say that you are right, though,
like what an ineffective way tostart a podcast.
Like I'm not going to tell youmy name just because I want to
be difficult you my name justbecause I want to be difficult
or try to be funny.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
So ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I'm Peter Bay campus director of King's Northwest.
Happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Thanks for coming today, guys, and I don't know if
you know this, but this weekthere are two, two big
international food days.
It is no, not inter, it's justnational.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I upscaled it a bit too much.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
That's good, because I don't know international food
very well French fries.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
National Lasagna Day this week and also National
Chili Dog Day, so my questionfor you is which one's your
favorite, if you had to pickbetween lasagna and chili dog?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, for me this is easy Lasagna hands down.
One because it's represented byone of the greatest cartoons of
all time, garfield, and twobecause it's got cheese and like
those wide, what are they?
Is it lasagna pasta?
Is that what it is?
Those shells?
You mean those big, wide shells?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, whatever the pasta is.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I don't know what the name of the noodles.
Is it not lasagna noodle?
It's like a whole pan of noodleI'm not a chef, I don't know, I
don't cook.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Well, yeah to have meat and cheese and whatever
that pasta is all together chilidogs.
I don't know that I've ever hada chili dog that I've enjoyed
and not stained my clothes withQuick Google search.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It is just a lasagna noodle, so that's good.
I would go chili dog.
Yeah, yeah, I'm a chili dog guyand I would not only put chili,
I'd put cheese, or if it'squeso, that's even better.
I'd put some diced onion onthere and I really think that.
(02:49):
Is there a food?
Tell me this.
Is there a food that can gocheap and inexpensive all the
way up to like fine dining as ahot dog?
You're starting to see hot dogsat fine dining restaurants
charging ridiculous amounts forit, but you can also pick an
eight pack up still for probablya couple few bucks at a grocery
store.
I think it's such a versatilefood I'm going chili dog all the
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way.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
All the way, I'm definitely a lasagna girl.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I knew I was in the presence of enemies.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
You know what I?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
don't know that.
I would say a hot dog, reallylike.
They may be trying to bill itlike a fine dining experience,
but that doesn't make it one.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
This is a podcast.
I once listened to a podcastall about hot dogs and how
famous and popular the hot dogis getting in these fine dining
institutions.
So isn't that a commercial?
I once listened to a podcastand give you useless knowledge.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'm a big fan of hot dogs.
Don't get me wrong, I thinkit's the chili that throws me
off.
Now, the best hot dogs are theones with the natural casing,
because they just like, they popand they're juicy and they're
just.
It's incredible, incredible, aburst of flavor in every bite.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Are you?
I'm a Wimmers hot dog fan.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Wimmers huh.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Wimmers red hot dogs.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Those red ones freak me out.
What's going on with that?
Aren't those banned now?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I've been here a while in Nebraska.
I still don't know that.
I've gotten used to that.
The red ones.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
That's what they serve at the stadium, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
It is yeah, what stadium?
Memorial Memorial Stadium.
I've not been there.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yes, you have.
That's ridiculous.
I just haven't had a hot dogthere for a while.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I've been there All right.
So this week on Sunday wasPastor Roger Timer's last
message.
And he is— I doubt thatQuestionable retirement.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
No, he's retired, but he'll keep preaching all over
the place as he entersretirement.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
He talked a little bit about his retirement hobby,
paramotoring.
My question is what will yourretirement hobby be?
What do you think right now youwill take up as your retirement
hobby?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Easy answer for me.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Like for sure I will sure I will be the hobby you
already have.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Oh, okay, I was going to say golf, okay, so the one I
was going to say that's not soeasy, that I've always wanted to
do and maybe, maybe at thattime I'll have time for it, as I
actually I never learned how toplay an instrument and I'd like
to learn how to play the guitar.
So I'm going to go.
I'm going to go retirement.
Maybe I become a guitarist.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, I think I'll go back to a job that I worked for
eight summers in high schooland college, back to the old
stomping grounds of Taco Bell,and I'll just just work in Taco
Bell till I die.
I loved working at Taco Bell.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Speaking of things, I just saw it was a video, a reel
that were the three mostnastiest, grossest, dirtiest
restaurant chains in America.
Number three was Chipotle,number two was Burger King,
number one was Taco Bell.
And it's just ridiculousbecause it's not.
It's great, right, pete?
(06:04):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
You know what?
I worked there eight summersand I still eat it.
Yeah, it's just fear-mongeringreels that are out there.
It really is.
People are like it's great toeat meat, or whatever Talk about
rats and rat droppings andstuff.
Sure, Occasionally you walk ina Taco Bell and you can't lift
your feet off the ground becauseit's so sticky.
But give us a break.
People are having a good time.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I have a friend that used to work at a mall pizza
chain.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Sbarro's.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, I don't know, I'm not going to name it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Why.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Their boss told them when they were stirring the
sauce, if they lost the longspoon that they could just stick
their hand in to the big saucepot like elbow deep and stir it
with their hand.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, that's why you didn't say the name.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah.
Oh boy, that was a long timeago, but that kind of ruined it
for me.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
The boss gave permission.
Yes, that was their that is sofunny, yep, just stir it up to
your elbow.
That is so funny, yep, juststir it up to your elbow.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Needless to say, mall pasta, pizza places are not my
retirement hobby.
I think I would like to crochet.
I know how to crochet.
I vaguely remember I crocheteda few things when I first became
a mom, but I just think thatseems so soothing and I don't
know something Good for you.
(07:27):
All right.
So Pastor Roger's message wasdon't plan for retirement plan
for heaven.
What are you guys taking beyondSunday?
What stuck out to you?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I was really grateful for his message.
It was an early line, rightbefore he said that.
That stuck with me.
It was like sunscreen, apply itnow for benefits later.
And I wrote that down and Ithought that's really good and
that was what he brought in.
Don't just plan for retirement,plan for heaven.
That sometimes, when we keepour eyes focused on heaven,
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eternal long-term, you do giveup or sacrifice something that
you can get for today, but it'llbe better long-term, and
especially with sunscreen.
Nobody likes putting sunscreenon.
It's awful, but you do itbecause your life's going to be
better if you put it on and I'veseen the effects of not putting
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it on myself and it's painful.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah.
So Pastor Roger Timer was thedirector of Kids Count
Ministries for years and years.
He created the curriculum.
I got to come in as director ofKing of Kings right after Roger
, which is very intimidating.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Big shoes to fill.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh my goodness, he's one of the greats of all time,
and I had to learn very early ondon't try to fill his shoes,
but just try to stand on hisshoulders.
Essentially, and so blessed byyears and years of working with
Roger Incredible humility,incredible idea factory, and to
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hear him last week was an honor.
So, yeah, I mean my takeaway isjust how blessed I've been to
get to work with someone likeRoger Timer.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, I really just enjoyed how much he talked about
love just so much about love inseveral different points, in
several different ways, and Ijust thought that was a great
start to a message.
All right.
So he talked a little bit aboutPsalm 90, verse 12.
And his version of it was lifeis like a toilet paper roll as
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it ends, it goes faster andfaster.
But that's not what that Psalmreally says.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I didn't even fact check it.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I was just like.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I quoted it immediately.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It says Our TV, the Roger Timer version.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Teach us to number our days so that we may gain a
heart of wisdom.
How did that verse speak to you, guys?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, he gave another quote that I still don't
understand, so maybe you guyscan help me.
I wrote it down.
It says don't let your dayshape your life.
Let your life shape your days.
Someone unpack that.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, I wrote that down too.
He said that right after hetalked about purpose, and so
when you have purpose, you canshape your days, whereas if you
don't have purpose, you justlive your days and eventually
the days end and like, what wasit all for?
So, really, what I took fromthat phrase was I need to have a
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purpose in my life so that mydays actually matter and I'm
pointing to something as opposedto haphazardly going with
whatever wherever the waves andthe wind takes me.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, can you read that verse again from Psalm?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Teach us to number our days so that we may gain a
heart of wisdom.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah, so when you combine those two thoughts?
Thanks for explaining that,zach.
You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
When you combine those two thoughts, I mean the
imminent end of my days, because, if not, what am I living for?
That's sobering and can beterrifying or can be inspiring.
Yeah, I think I haven't seenthis phrase and I actually I'm
processing out loud as I'msaying it with you right now,
because I haven't.
I don't know what it means asmuch, but I haven't.
When I think of wisdom, I thinkof mind, and this is like a
heart of wisdom.
So that's interesting, because Idon't think of about a heart of
wisdom, I think about a mindfilled with wisdom, and so,
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obviously, what I take from thisverse teach us a number are
days like there's there is anend to this and, again, the
wisdom the wise thing to dowould be to know that that end
is coming and to form yourpurpose around.
If this is going to end, atsome point, my life should more
point to where I'll be next,which is eternity, and so
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there's a mind that has thatwisdom.
But I think the more weunderstand that, the more we
live with that heart of wisdom,and that, like, my real call in
this place is yeah, embody Jesus, but love is is really the
thing that Jesus embodied.
And so, as I number my days,not only will I get wisdom, but
I'll also get a heart thatactually is more loving and kind
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to those that I interact with,and some people around me have
said that would be good that I,if I get one of those we'll call
him the.
Grinch.
I got different names for him,but you, you also listen really
well, right?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, like a brick wall, wow, wow.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Well, I don't even believe that.
I just, I just like playing.
He just likes to play into it.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah.
So in light of that, roger alsoasked what is your purpose Like
?
How did that strike you guys?
What do you guys feel?
He talked a little bit aboutwhat God's word says our purpose
is and how that relates to whatwe do.
How did that jump out at you?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah.
So, zach, maybe you rememberthis was maybe a year ago you
challenged people it could havebeen two years ago to create
life purpose statements and Ithought that was really good and
at that time my purposestatement was to be an
encourager with joy to thepeople around me.
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And I created that out of likehow God made me, because if I,
if my life purpose, is somethingthat doesn't naturally fit how
God made me, it's going to be aconstant struggle.
Um, but God didn't make me tobe an encourager Like I.
I get to coach girls golf atConcordia high school and, uh,
it's so funny the first day ofcoaching last year that one of
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the girls said are you a biggolfer?
I said I'm big and I golf.
She said are you really good?
I said at encouragement.
She's like so you're not goodat golf.
I was like don't tell yourparents, please.
But learning how God made youand then, accordingly, creating
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a life goal or a purpose out ofthat was really helpful advice
and it's helped me to reframe.
When I'm getting frustratedwith other things is like okay,
go back to my target, encouragepeople to joy.
I can do that.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, whenever we talk about purpose, I think
we've got to look at the twotypes of purpose.
I think if cause that's where Ithink sometimes we get we get
off like our, our macro purpose,like the purpose that everybody
has is to glorify God, and Ithink we do that through through
following him as a disciple, solike that's the purpose that
the three of us and anyonelistening I feel like have in
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common.
The micro purpose is wherethings get, in other words,
what's your individual purposeis where things can get a little
more hairy and sticky and Ithink, really where people not
all, I think some struggle withthe macro, like that first thing
, but I think a lot of peoplejust like what does that mean
for me?
And so that's where Peter, likeyours, you know, is what are my
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gifts and what are my strengths,and I think looking at those
and developing that is reallyimportant.
And so my purpose, I feel like,is that I help all people
become greater followers ofJesus.
I do that in my own way,through communication, through
podcasts, through relationship,through preaching.
It's the one kind of commonthread throughout, I would say,
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my work at King of Kings, mywork at Red Letter, but then
also just my personal life as adad, as a husband and with the
people I'm around, and some arefar more intentional, some of
those roles and some are alittle less, but that's the one
I think common thread throughwhat I do is in some way shape
or form.
I'm hoping this is going tohelp people with that macro
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purpose.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So anyway, when I feel like I'm struggling, I
really just break it down to thebasics, which is like love God
love others, you know love yourneighbors, yourselves, and just
love God, love others, and thatsimplifies it for me that I can
start there.
Then everything else is gravy,but I can start just with that
simplicity.
Gravy, but I can start justwith that simplicity.
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So, in talking about fillingyour days with purpose, pastor
Roger kind of highlighted threeways to fill our days with
purpose, and he took these fromEphesians 5, but his points were
to keep your heart on theSavior, keep your chin on the
windowsill of heaven and keepyour feet planted on solid
ground.
How did those jump out at you?
Or was there one that reallyspoke to you more than the
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others?
Or what were your notes fromthere?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, first off, one of the things he said is the
answer is not to try harder, andthat's an important thing for
me to.
To remember, last week I got tobe part of something really
incredible the youth gathering.
Lcms youth gathering happensevery three years.
It was in new orleans this yearand three years from now it'll
be san antonio and um incredibleevent 20 000 youth and adults
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and I was part of the stadiumteam.
I was a planner for that.
So two and a half years ofplanning culminated last week.
Our theme was endure incredible.
And when I got back I was justfeeling like exhausted and it
was hard to get plugged backinto reality.
And my co-director, formerpastor here at Kim King's, now a
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pastor in Federal Way ofWashington, dan Weber, sent an
email to the team and he prettymuch wrote a mini message and it
was wonderful.
But his whole landing spot wasthat he got to see it was a
near-death experience is what hecalled it.
He said oftentimes when we hearnear-death, we think of
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something scary.
He said, but this is asnear-death as I've gotten,
because I got to see a glimpseof heaven as 20,000 people
rejoiced in unison.
And so when Pastor Roger talkedabout putting your chin on the
windowsill of heaven.
I thought back to some of thosemoments, putting your chin on
the windowsill of heaven.
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I thought back to some of thosemoments, just like there was
this moment where it was on anauxiliary stage in an acoustic
set and the band was singingwhat a friend we have in Jesus
and the words were on thescreens in the front, but the
whole crowd just turned andfaced that little stage and it
was like we don't need the wordsand people just saying and it
was beautiful and that was likea.
We don't need the words andpeople just saying and it was
beautiful and that was like a.
It was a glimpse of heaven, itwas sweet.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah, I think as he was going through it, my brain
is always like, uh, what, whatcan I grow in and where am I
okay?
You know where my strength ofmind be?
So that's where my brain goes alot of times when I hear
preachers preach.
And in addition to like as apreacher like you can't not
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evaluate them as a preacher and,like you know, take something.
Or there's a thought sometimesthat one preacher has that he'll
say it a certain way and I'llthink of it and I'll, you know,
hang on to it for future.
But for me, as I'm looking atthose, I'm like, yeah, probably
the one I can grow on is that,first one, keep your heart on
the Savior.
How to bucket, that isn'treally important, that you know
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our lives, that our bucketsgetting filled, and I think
sometimes that's probably mybiggest challenge is just
continuing to fill that bucketand not just pouring out,
pouring out stuff based on mypast, my history, my seminary
experience, my knowledge, myexperiences, right, and so cause
I think I can, I can moreeasily go that direction, and
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that's good that I have thoseexperiences in that education,
that theology, that training.
But it but I still need to befilling my bucket up more often.
And so that's when I definitelyfeel like, yeah, I need to keep
making sure that it's full sothat whatever I'm pouring out is
fresh water and not what stopsat a fresh water, stale water,
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salt water, salt water.
There you go, and then, I think, the windowsill of heaven.
I feel like the last couple ofyears that's been a huge growth
of mine, and a strength of mineis to get out of this natural
eye and get on.
I like to think of it on thatside of the clouds and think
about Jesus on the throne inheaven with the angels
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encircling and the worshipthat's happening up there.
And I gave a message like a yearand a half ago here called
postures, and it's one of my I'dsay my top three or three
favorite messages of mine, andI've had the opportunity to
preach it for other times atdifferent places, and one of
those was just a week ago, andso it's like that has continued
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to keep my mind and my brain andmy eyes on that side of the
clouds and to remember that thisisn't all there is, and I think
, especially with my work ongenerosity, it's coming out
later really, that heaven focusis a huge piece of that, and so
I need to keep filling my bucketso that I can pour out stuff.
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But I do feel like those imagesare more vivid now than they
were for me a couple of yearsago, and I totally agree with
what you said, peter, that theyouth gathering does that for
that sort of near-deathexperience in a positive way,
because that's the magnitude ofit.
It's so beautiful and to thinkthat we're going to get that
like times, who knows how much,it's going to be awesome yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I really liked when he said keep your heart on the
Savior.
It made me think kind of inline where you were talking
about.
You know that verse that teachus to number our days so that we
may gain a heart of wisdomwhere normally we would think
mind, I would think a lot.
You keep your mind on theSavior.
You know you're makingintentional choices to serving
Him, to talking about Him, tosharing His light, whatever it
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is, but keeping your heart onHim.
How does that direct youdifferently?
How does that lead with emotion?
How does that lead with love orjoy?
Which then leads me back to thelove God, love others.
I just did a summer connectgroup with just kind of a random
group of people and we did aright now media study by Bob
Goff called Love and Chaos andit was really just talking about
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showing love.
In this culture where we kind ofhave forgotten to show love
first, everybody judges andpoints fingers and talks about
this or that you know, and itreally talked about loving your
neighbor and loving your enemy.
Like there was a whole week onloving your enemy and it was
just who is my enemy?
Like who are the people that Idon't like or that cause me
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issues, you know, and how can Ishow them love?
But when he was, keep yourheart on the Savior, just all of
that really came to the surfacefor me.
These things that I've beendoing this last six weeks or so,
that, oh okay, that's where myheart is pointed and I'm talking
about all this love and reallyjust focusing it on him and not
so much the earthly level but onwhat he's doing.
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Yeah, all right, so, as we kindof wrap up here, what are your
final takeaways from thisRoger's last message?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, mine is going to be less about the actual
content of the message thoughthe content was great and more
just the privilege and honor ofserving alongside and under
Roger.
Uh, you know, when we movedhere in 1993, he wasn't quite
here yet, but he came a coupleof years after that and so I got
to experience not a lot ofhands-on but underneath his
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direction for, you know, half adecade, and then coming back 20
years later and then still beinghim, being here and serving
with him for four years, it'smore.
I'm grateful for the man thatRoger is, and I feel like in our
day, with our social media,technologically crazed world,
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there are a lot of stories aboutpastors who fail, who fizzle
out, and there are a lot morethat don't fail and fizzle out
but are faithful, and Roger isone of those.
And so anybody that's doneministry and not just pastors,
but anybody that's done ministryfor more than four decades and
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finishes well, I'm just likekudos man.
I want to be you Like, at theend of the day, well done, good
and faithful servant Proud ofyou.
I love you, I'm happy for you, Ihope retirement's awesome for
you.
You've made a difference in waymore people's life than you
know, and we're going to honorhim this Sunday at our Millard
campus and the content was great, but I was just so happy for
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him.
Thanks, dude, you're awesome.
So, yeah, I want to be you.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I'm going to actually go the opposite route on this
one.
Yeah, I want to be you.
I'm going to actually go theopposite route on this one.
I'm kidding, I don't know whatthe opposite route would be.
No, I'll finish with a piece ofthe content, though.
He gave a picture at the endthat I've never thought about in
my life.
He said that there are thingsthat we hold on.
Let me remind myself things wecan do here on earth that we
won't be able to do in heaven.
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What I was like.
There's this blasphemy.
You're gonna end it with beinga heretic, and then he was.
He talked about like forgiveness, like if there's no, if we're
not hurting each other in heaven, like that's an earthly thing.
So do it well as christforgiven you, go and forgive
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others.
You talked about reaching themarginalized and the faithless
and really within the scope ofhis message of purpose and days
are numbered to end the messageand send me and hopefully many
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others, thinking about theprivilege I have of doing just
that.
So yeah, pastor Rogers the manside note I got to do a baptism
on Sunday and the family thatwas there.
They they came and they hadextended family who had never
been to our church and I said,oh, today's a fun day.
We actually get to hear amessage from Pastor Roger Timer,
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and the guy said he was mysoccer coach and the number of
people who have told me that inOmaha over the years is more
than you'd think.
So the impact that he's had,not only in pastoring but also
in a life of living for God andoutside of his job, has been
amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I've only known Roger for a couple years, like I've
known of him, you know, butreally it's the stories that
people tell about him andeverything is, you know, with
joy and with love.
And so I really thought he saidat one point when we are well
loved by God, we can love well,and I thought that just really
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sums up him.
He knows he's well loved by Godand he shows love to others
well.
So, yeah, thank you guys somuch for being here we will be
back next week.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Tina.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Well, maybe not you.
Thanks, You're welcome.
Is this our swan song, dina?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
No, it's not your swan song, but you know, as we
wrap up speaking of song, youknow it's become a tradition.
Now, peter, when you're here,so you know what?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I don't know if I'll do a song today, so you can't
see me had all day from a lovelygolf course called Castle Pines
Golf Course and he's got theonly three of the.
What do you call these Buttons?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
that it snaps into.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, it's a snapback , so he only has three of them
and it still fits me like achild.
So, in honor of that, I'm goingto finish off by doing my best.
Zach Zender impression.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Oh, wow, great.
And you're wearing my hat andI'm wearing the hat.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
You can't see this, but I'm wearing the hat.
I've never done a Zach Zender.
I doubt that I bet you have.
Hey, king of Kings.
No, that's me, that's me, holdon Kings.
No, that's me, that's me, holdon.
Okay, zach Zender, here withthe Red Letter Challenge.
King of Kings, thank you forloving the Lord and following
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Jesus and living the red life.
This is terrible.
Hey, keep living Monday likeyou learned on Sunday.
Is that the tagline?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
No, let's keep living our until next time.
Let's keep living our faithbeyond Sunday.
You can go ahead, Zach Zanderit out.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
King of Kings, until next time, keep living your
faith like Sunday.
Loving it Nailed it.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Nailed it Beyond Monday.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Beyond Monday, Sunday you.
Welcome to Beyond Sunday, the King of Kings
podcast, where we dive a littlebit deeper into our Sunday
message and see what we'retaking beyond Sunday.
My name is Dena Newsome and Iam honored to have back two of
my favorite guests.
Oh, that's so nice.
Yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm Julie Easley, just kidding.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
What would you say 50% of these podcasts?
We don't say our real names,that seems accurate, I would say
100% of the last five.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, something that we think works.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
it probably doesn't, and we just keep going with it.
But I'm going to say who I amtoday.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I'm Zach Zender, and you didn't ask, but I'm the
multi-site director of King ofKings.
Yeah, and I did not ask.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Nobody asked, I just wanted to say it.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I'm glad you could say that you are right, though,
like what an ineffective way tostart a podcast.
Like I'm not going to tell youmy name just because I want to
be difficult you my name justbecause I want to be difficult
or try to be funny.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
So ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I'm Peter Bay campus director of King's Northwest.
Happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Thanks for coming today, guys, and I don't know if
you know this, but this weekthere are two, two big
international food days.
It is no, not inter, it's justnational.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
I upscaled it a bit too much.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
That's good, because I don't know international food
very well French fries.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
National Lasagna Day this week and also National
Chili Dog Day, so my questionfor you is which one's your
favorite, if you had to pickbetween lasagna and chili dog?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, for me this is easy Lasagna hands down.
One because it's represented byone of the greatest cartoons of
all time, garfield, and twobecause it's got cheese and like
those wide, what are they?
Is it lasagna pasta?
Is that what it is?
Those shells?
You mean those big, wide shells?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, whatever the pasta is.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I don't know what the name of the noodles.
Is it not lasagna noodle?
It's like a whole pan of noodleI'm not a chef, I don't know, I
don't cook.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Well, yeah to have meat and cheese and whatever
that pasta is all together chilidogs.
I don't know that I've ever hada chili dog that I've enjoyed
and not stained my clothes withQuick Google search.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
It is just a lasagna noodle, so that's good.
I would go chili dog.
Yeah, yeah, I'm a chili dog guyand I would not only put chili,
I'd put cheese, or if it'squeso, that's even better.
I'd put some diced onion onthere and I really think that.
(02:49):
Is there a food?
Tell me this.
Is there a food that can gocheap and inexpensive all the
way up to like fine dining as ahot dog?
You're starting to see hot dogsat fine dining restaurants
charging ridiculous amounts forit, but you can also pick an
eight pack up still for probablya couple few bucks at a grocery
store.
I think it's such a versatilefood I'm going chili dog all the
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way.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
All the way, I'm definitely a lasagna girl.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I knew I was in the presence of enemies.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
You know what I?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
don't know that.
I would say a hot dog, reallylike.
They may be trying to bill itlike a fine dining experience,
but that doesn't make it one.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
This is a podcast.
I once listened to a podcastall about hot dogs and how
famous and popular the hot dogis getting in these fine dining
institutions.
So isn't that a commercial?
I once listened to a podcastand give you useless knowledge.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
I'm a big fan of hot dogs.
Don't get me wrong, I thinkit's the chili that throws me
off.
Now, the best hot dogs are theones with the natural casing,
because they just like, they popand they're juicy and they're
just.
It's incredible, incredible, aburst of flavor in every bite.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Are you?
I'm a Wimmers hot dog fan.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Wimmers huh.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Wimmers red hot dogs.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Those red ones freak me out.
What's going on with that?
Aren't those banned now?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I've been here a while in Nebraska.
I still don't know that.
I've gotten used to that.
The red ones.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
That's what they serve at the stadium, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
It is yeah, what stadium?
Memorial Memorial Stadium.
I've not been there.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yes, you have.
That's ridiculous.
I just haven't had a hot dogthere for a while.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
I've been there All right.
So this week on Sunday wasPastor Roger Timer's last
message.
And he is— I doubt thatQuestionable retirement.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
No, he's retired, but he'll keep preaching all over
the place as he entersretirement.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
He talked a little bit about his retirement hobby,
paramotoring.
My question is what will yourretirement hobby be?
What do you think right now youwill take up as your retirement
hobby?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Easy answer for me.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Like for sure I will sure I will be the hobby you
already have.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Oh, okay, I was going to say golf, okay, so the one I
was going to say that's not soeasy, that I've always wanted to
do and maybe, maybe at thattime I'll have time for it, as I
actually I never learned how toplay an instrument and I'd like
to learn how to play the guitar.
So I'm going to go.
I'm going to go retirement.
Maybe I become a guitarist.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, I think I'll go back to a job that I worked for
eight summers in high schooland college, back to the old
stomping grounds of Taco Bell,and I'll just just work in Taco
Bell till I die.
I loved working at Taco Bell.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Speaking of things, I just saw it was a video, a reel
that were the three mostnastiest, grossest, dirtiest
restaurant chains in America.
Number three was Chipotle,number two was Burger King,
number one was Taco Bell.
And it's just ridiculousbecause it's not.
It's great, right, pete?
(06:04):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
You know what?
I worked there eight summersand I still eat it.
Yeah, it's just fear-mongeringreels that are out there.
It really is.
People are like it's great toeat meat, or whatever Talk about
rats and rat droppings andstuff.
Sure, Occasionally you walk ina Taco Bell and you can't lift
your feet off the ground becauseit's so sticky.
But give us a break.
People are having a good time.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I have a friend that used to work at a mall pizza
chain.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Sbarro's.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well, I don't know, I'm not going to name it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Why.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Their boss told them when they were stirring the
sauce, if they lost the longspoon that they could just stick
their hand in to the big saucepot like elbow deep and stir it
with their hand.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, that's why you didn't say the name.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah.
Oh boy, that was a long timeago, but that kind of ruined it
for me.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
The boss gave permission.
Yes, that was their that is sofunny, yep, just stir it up to
your elbow.
That is so funny, yep, juststir it up to your elbow.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Needless to say, mall pasta, pizza places are not my
retirement hobby.
I think I would like to crochet.
I know how to crochet.
I vaguely remember I crocheteda few things when I first became
a mom, but I just think thatseems so soothing and I don't
know something Good for you.
(07:27):
All right.
So Pastor Roger's message wasdon't plan for retirement plan
for heaven.
What are you guys taking beyondSunday?
What stuck out to you?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I was really grateful for his message.
It was an early line, rightbefore he said that.
That stuck with me.
It was like sunscreen, apply itnow for benefits later.
And I wrote that down and Ithought that's really good and
that was what he brought in.
Don't just plan for retirement,plan for heaven.
That sometimes, when we keepour eyes focused on heaven,
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eternal long-term, you do giveup or sacrifice something that
you can get for today, but it'llbe better long-term, and
especially with sunscreen.
Nobody likes putting sunscreenon.
It's awful, but you do itbecause your life's going to be
better if you put it on and I'veseen the effects of not putting
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it on myself and it's painful.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Yeah.
So Pastor Roger Timer was thedirector of Kids Count
Ministries for years and years.
He created the curriculum.
I got to come in as director ofKing of Kings right after Roger
, which is very intimidating.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Big shoes to fill.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh my goodness, he's one of the greats of all time,
and I had to learn very early ondon't try to fill his shoes,
but just try to stand on hisshoulders.
Essentially, and so blessed byyears and years of working with
Roger Incredible humility,incredible idea factory, and to
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hear him last week was an honor.
So, yeah, I mean my takeaway isjust how blessed I've been to
get to work with someone likeRoger Timer.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, I really just enjoyed how much he talked about
love just so much about love inseveral different points, in
several different ways, and Ijust thought that was a great
start to a message.
All right.
So he talked a little bit aboutPsalm 90, verse 12.
And his version of it was lifeis like a toilet paper roll as
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it ends, it goes faster andfaster.
But that's not what that Psalmreally says.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I didn't even fact check it.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
I was just like.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I quoted it immediately.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It says Our TV, the Roger Timer version.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Teach us to number our days so that we may gain a
heart of wisdom.
How did that verse speak to you, guys?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, he gave another quote that I still don't
understand, so maybe you guyscan help me.
I wrote it down.
It says don't let your dayshape your life.
Let your life shape your days.
Someone unpack that.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Yeah, I wrote that down too.
He said that right after hetalked about purpose, and so
when you have purpose, you canshape your days, whereas if you
don't have purpose, you justlive your days and eventually
the days end and like, what wasit all for?
So, really, what I took fromthat phrase was I need to have a
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purpose in my life so that mydays actually matter and I'm
pointing to something as opposedto haphazardly going with
whatever wherever the waves andthe wind takes me.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, can you read that verse again from Psalm?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Teach us to number our days so that we may gain a
heart of wisdom.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah, so when you combine those two thoughts?
Thanks for explaining that,zach.
You're welcome.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
When you combine those two thoughts, I mean the
imminent end of my days, because, if not, what am I living for?
That's sobering and can beterrifying or can be inspiring.
Yeah, I think I haven't seenthis phrase and I actually I'm
processing out loud as I'msaying it with you right now,
because I haven't.
I don't know what it means asmuch, but I haven't.
When I think of wisdom, I thinkof mind, and this is like a
heart of wisdom.
So that's interesting, because Idon't think of about a heart of
wisdom, I think about a mindfilled with wisdom, and so,
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obviously, what I take from thisverse teach us a number are
days like there's there is anend to this and, again, the
wisdom the wise thing to dowould be to know that that end
is coming and to form yourpurpose around.
If this is going to end, atsome point, my life should more
point to where I'll be next,which is eternity, and so
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there's a mind that has thatwisdom.
But I think the more weunderstand that, the more we
live with that heart of wisdom,and that, like, my real call in
this place is yeah, embody Jesus, but love is is really the
thing that Jesus embodied.
And so, as I number my days,not only will I get wisdom, but
I'll also get a heart thatactually is more loving and kind
(12:31):
to those that I interact with,and some people around me have
said that would be good that I,if I get one of those we'll call
him the.
Grinch.
I got different names for him,but you, you also listen really
well, right?
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, like a brick wall, wow, wow.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Well, I don't even believe that.
I just, I just like playing.
He just likes to play into it.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Yeah.
So in light of that, roger alsoasked what is your purpose Like
?
How did that strike you guys?
What do you guys feel?
He talked a little bit aboutwhat God's word says our purpose
is and how that relates to whatwe do.
How did that jump out at you?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yeah.
So, zach, maybe you rememberthis was maybe a year ago you
challenged people it could havebeen two years ago to create
life purpose statements and Ithought that was really good and
at that time my purposestatement was to be an
encourager with joy to thepeople around me.
(13:35):
And I created that out of likehow God made me, because if I,
if my life purpose, is somethingthat doesn't naturally fit how
God made me, it's going to be aconstant struggle.
Um, but God didn't make me tobe an encourager Like I.
I get to coach girls golf atConcordia high school and, uh,
it's so funny the first day ofcoaching last year that one of
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the girls said are you a biggolfer?
I said I'm big and I golf.
She said are you really good?
I said at encouragement.
She's like so you're not goodat golf.
I was like don't tell yourparents, please.
But learning how God made youand then, accordingly, creating
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a life goal or a purpose out ofthat was really helpful advice
and it's helped me to reframe.
When I'm getting frustratedwith other things is like okay,
go back to my target, encouragepeople to joy.
I can do that.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, whenever we talk about purpose, I think
we've got to look at the twotypes of purpose.
I think if cause that's where Ithink sometimes we get we get
off like our, our macro purpose,like the purpose that everybody
has is to glorify God, and Ithink we do that through through
following him as a disciple, solike that's the purpose that
the three of us and anyonelistening I feel like have in
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common.
The micro purpose is wherethings get, in other words,
what's your individual purposeis where things can get a little
more hairy and sticky and Ithink, really where people not
all, I think some struggle withthe macro, like that first thing
, but I think a lot of peoplejust like what does that mean
for me?
And so that's where Peter, likeyours, you know, is what are my
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gifts and what are my strengths,and I think looking at those
and developing that is reallyimportant.
And so my purpose, I feel like,is that I help all people
become greater followers ofJesus.
I do that in my own way,through communication, through
podcasts, through relationship,through preaching.
It's the one kind of commonthread throughout, I would say,
(15:33):
my work at King of Kings, mywork at Red Letter, but then
also just my personal life as adad, as a husband and with the
people I'm around, and some arefar more intentional, some of
those roles and some are alittle less, but that's the one
I think common thread throughwhat I do is in some way shape
or form.
I'm hoping this is going tohelp people with that macro
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purpose.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
So anyway, when I feel like I'm struggling, I
really just break it down to thebasics, which is like love God
love others, you know love yourneighbors, yourselves, and just
love God, love others, and thatsimplifies it for me that I can
start there.
Then everything else is gravy,but I can start just with that
simplicity.
Gravy, but I can start justwith that simplicity.
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So, in talking about fillingyour days with purpose, pastor
Roger kind of highlighted threeways to fill our days with
purpose, and he took these fromEphesians 5, but his points were
to keep your heart on theSavior, keep your chin on the
windowsill of heaven and keepyour feet planted on solid
ground.
How did those jump out at you?
Or was there one that reallyspoke to you more than the
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others?
Or what were your notes fromthere?
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, first off, one of the things he said is the
answer is not to try harder, andthat's an important thing for
me to.
To remember, last week I got tobe part of something really
incredible the youth gathering.
Lcms youth gathering happensevery three years.
It was in new orleans this yearand three years from now it'll
be san antonio and um incredibleevent 20 000 youth and adults
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and I was part of the stadiumteam.
I was a planner for that.
So two and a half years ofplanning culminated last week.
Our theme was endure incredible.
And when I got back I was justfeeling like exhausted and it
was hard to get plugged backinto reality.
And my co-director, formerpastor here at Kim King's, now a
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pastor in Federal Way ofWashington, dan Weber, sent an
email to the team and he prettymuch wrote a mini message and it
was wonderful.
But his whole landing spot wasthat he got to see it was a
near-death experience is what hecalled it.
He said oftentimes when we hearnear-death, we think of
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something scary.
He said, but this is asnear-death as I've gotten,
because I got to see a glimpseof heaven as 20,000 people
rejoiced in unison.
And so when Pastor Roger talkedabout putting your chin on the
windowsill of heaven.
I thought back to some of thosemoments, putting your chin on
the windowsill of heaven.
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I thought back to some of thosemoments, just like there was
this moment where it was on anauxiliary stage in an acoustic
set and the band was singingwhat a friend we have in Jesus
and the words were on thescreens in the front, but the
whole crowd just turned andfaced that little stage and it
was like we don't need the wordsand people just saying and it
was beautiful and that was likea.
We don't need the words andpeople just saying and it was
beautiful and that was like a.
It was a glimpse of heaven, itwas sweet.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah, I think as he was going through it, my brain
is always like, uh, what, whatcan I grow in and where am I
okay?
You know where my strength ofmind be?
So that's where my brain goes alot of times when I hear
preachers preach.
And in addition to like as apreacher like you can't not
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evaluate them as a preacher and,like you know, take something.
Or there's a thought sometimesthat one preacher has that he'll
say it a certain way and I'llthink of it and I'll, you know,
hang on to it for future.
But for me, as I'm looking atthose, I'm like, yeah, probably
the one I can grow on is that,first one, keep your heart on
the Savior.
How to bucket, that isn'treally important, that you know
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our lives, that our bucketsgetting filled, and I think
sometimes that's probably mybiggest challenge is just
continuing to fill that bucketand not just pouring out,
pouring out stuff based on mypast, my history, my seminary
experience, my knowledge, myexperiences, right, and so cause
I think I can, I can moreeasily go that direction, and
(19:46):
that's good that I have thoseexperiences in that education,
that theology, that training.
But it but I still need to befilling my bucket up more often.
And so that's when I definitelyfeel like, yeah, I need to keep
making sure that it's full sothat whatever I'm pouring out is
fresh water and not what stopsat a fresh water, stale water,
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salt water, salt water.
There you go, and then, I think, the windowsill of heaven.
I feel like the last couple ofyears that's been a huge growth
of mine, and a strength of mineis to get out of this natural
eye and get on.
I like to think of it on thatside of the clouds and think
about Jesus on the throne inheaven with the angels
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encircling and the worshipthat's happening up there.
And I gave a message like a yearand a half ago here called
postures, and it's one of my I'dsay my top three or three
favorite messages of mine, andI've had the opportunity to
preach it for other times atdifferent places, and one of
those was just a week ago, andso it's like that has continued
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to keep my mind and my brain andmy eyes on that side of the
clouds and to remember that thisisn't all there is, and I think
, especially with my work ongenerosity, it's coming out
later really, that heaven focusis a huge piece of that, and so
I need to keep filling my bucketso that I can pour out stuff.
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But I do feel like those imagesare more vivid now than they
were for me a couple of yearsago, and I totally agree with
what you said, peter, that theyouth gathering does that for
that sort of near-deathexperience in a positive way,
because that's the magnitude ofit.
It's so beautiful and to thinkthat we're going to get that
like times, who knows how much,it's going to be awesome yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I really liked when he said keep your heart on the
Savior.
It made me think kind of inline where you were talking
about.
You know that verse that teachus to number our days so that we
may gain a heart of wisdomwhere normally we would think
mind, I would think a lot.
You keep your mind on theSavior.
You know you're makingintentional choices to serving
Him, to talking about Him, tosharing His light, whatever it
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is, but keeping your heart onHim.
How does that direct youdifferently?
How does that lead with emotion?
How does that lead with love orjoy?
Which then leads me back to thelove God, love others.
I just did a summer connectgroup with just kind of a random
group of people and we did aright now media study by Bob
Goff called Love and Chaos andit was really just talking about
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showing love.
In this culture where we kind ofhave forgotten to show love
first, everybody judges andpoints fingers and talks about
this or that you know, and itreally talked about loving your
neighbor and loving your enemy.
Like there was a whole week onloving your enemy and it was
just who is my enemy?
Like who are the people that Idon't like or that cause me
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issues, you know, and how can Ishow them love?
But when he was, keep yourheart on the Savior, just all of
that really came to the surfacefor me.
These things that I've beendoing this last six weeks or so,
that, oh okay, that's where myheart is pointed and I'm talking
about all this love and reallyjust focusing it on him and not
so much the earthly level but onwhat he's doing.
(23:01):
Yeah, all right, so, as we kindof wrap up here, what are your
final takeaways from thisRoger's last message?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah, mine is going to be less about the actual
content of the message thoughthe content was great and more
just the privilege and honor ofserving alongside and under
Roger.
Uh, you know, when we movedhere in 1993, he wasn't quite
here yet, but he came a coupleof years after that and so I got
to experience not a lot ofhands-on but underneath his
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direction for, you know, half adecade, and then coming back 20
years later and then still beinghim, being here and serving
with him for four years, it'smore.
I'm grateful for the man thatRoger is, and I feel like in our
day, with our social media,technologically crazed world,
(24:00):
there are a lot of stories aboutpastors who fail, who fizzle
out, and there are a lot morethat don't fail and fizzle out
but are faithful, and Roger isone of those.
And so anybody that's doneministry and not just pastors,
but anybody that's done ministryfor more than four decades and
(24:20):
finishes well, I'm just likekudos man.
I want to be you Like, at theend of the day, well done, good
and faithful servant Proud ofyou.
I love you, I'm happy for you, Ihope retirement's awesome for
you.
You've made a difference in waymore people's life than you
know, and we're going to honorhim this Sunday at our Millard
campus and the content was great, but I was just so happy for
(24:45):
him.
Thanks, dude, you're awesome.
So, yeah, I want to be you.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I'm going to actually go the opposite route on this
one.
Yeah, I want to be you.
I'm going to actually go theopposite route on this one.
I'm kidding, I don't know whatthe opposite route would be.
No, I'll finish with a piece ofthe content, though.
He gave a picture at the endthat I've never thought about in
my life.
He said that there are thingsthat we hold on.
Let me remind myself things wecan do here on earth that we
won't be able to do in heaven.
(25:13):
What I was like.
There's this blasphemy.
You're gonna end it with beinga heretic, and then he was.
He talked about like forgiveness, like if there's no, if we're
not hurting each other in heaven, like that's an earthly thing.
So do it well as christforgiven you, go and forgive
(25:33):
others.
You talked about reaching themarginalized and the faithless
and really within the scope ofhis message of purpose and days
are numbered to end the messageand send me and hopefully many
(25:56):
others, thinking about theprivilege I have of doing just
that.
So yeah, pastor Rogers the manside note I got to do a baptism
on Sunday and the family thatwas there.
They they came and they hadextended family who had never
been to our church and I said,oh, today's a fun day.
We actually get to hear amessage from Pastor Roger Timer,
(26:18):
and the guy said he was mysoccer coach and the number of
people who have told me that inOmaha over the years is more
than you'd think.
So the impact that he's had,not only in pastoring but also
in a life of living for God andoutside of his job, has been
amazing.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I've only known Roger for a couple years, like I've
known of him, you know, butreally it's the stories that
people tell about him andeverything is, you know, with
joy and with love.
And so I really thought he saidat one point when we are well
loved by God, we can love well,and I thought that just really
(26:57):
sums up him.
He knows he's well loved by Godand he shows love to others
well.
So, yeah, thank you guys somuch for being here we will be
back next week.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Tina.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Well, maybe not you.
Thanks, You're welcome.
Is this our swan song, dina?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
No, it's not your swan song, but you know, as we
wrap up speaking of song, youknow it's become a tradition.
Now, peter, when you're here,so you know what?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I don't know if I'll do a song today, so you can't
see me had all day from a lovelygolf course called Castle Pines
Golf Course and he's got theonly three of the.
What do you call these Buttons?
Speaker 3 (27:39):
that it snaps into.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, it's a snapback , so he only has three of them
and it still fits me like achild.
So, in honor of that, I'm goingto finish off by doing my best.
Zach Zender impression.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Oh, wow, great.
And you're wearing my hat andI'm wearing the hat.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
You can't see this, but I'm wearing the hat.
I've never done a Zach Zender.
I doubt that I bet you have.
Hey, king of Kings.
No, that's me, that's me, holdon Kings.
No, that's me, that's me, holdon.
Okay, zach Zender, here withthe Red Letter Challenge.
King of Kings, thank you forloving the Lord and following
(28:20):
Jesus and living the red life.
This is terrible.
Hey, keep living Monday likeyou learned on Sunday.
Is that the tagline?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
No, let's keep living our until next time.
Let's keep living our faithbeyond Sunday.
You can go ahead, Zach Zanderit out.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
King of Kings, until next time, keep living your
faith like Sunday.
Loving it Nailed it.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Nailed it Beyond Monday.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Beyond Monday, Sunday you.
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