July 16, 2025 • 38 mins
Dina, Pastor Seth, and Chad continue the Don’t Skip This series in this Beyond Sunday episode with a look at the unexpected story of Ehud in Judges 3. They explore how God often works through what the world sees as weakness, reminding us that our differences might be exactly what God wants to use for His purpose.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome to Beyond Sunday, the King of Kings
podcast, where we dive a littlebit into our message series and
find out what we're takingBeyond Sunday.
My name is Dena Newsom and I amexcited that I have some brand
new guests to the podcast today.
Go ahead and introduceyourselves, guys.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
All right, can I go new guy number?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
one.
I think you can, I'll be numbertwo, all right.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That has a lot to do.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Did you plan that?
No, okay.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Sure, uh, my name is Seth Seth Flick.
I get to be the campus pastorhere at the Millard campus.
Uh, I'm married to a wonderfulwoman by the name of Melinda and
I'm going to shout out to myboys because they listened to
the podcast.
So I'm going to say hello toNoah, micah, elijah, judah and
Luca, who I know is going tolisten to this as soon as it
gets uploaded, all right, and.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I'm Chad Kelly.
You'll understand why welaughed at number two here in a
little bit, but I'm the studentintern here.
King of Kings as well.
Just started the same day asSeth a couple of weeks ago.
I'll shout out my wonderfulwife, Caroline, and Seth's boys
as well.
They love you too.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I just feel like neglected if I don't shout out
Seth's boys, so you know heyguys.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Oh yeah, it was so good to kick.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
All right.
Well, I did meet them when youcame for your visit.
They all came and got t-shirtsfrom me.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh, that's where they got the next steps through.
Yes, you are their secondfavorite person.
The first favorite person isGreg, because Greg was like you
guys need some free stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yes, yeah, greg literally walked them over and
said, hey, we need shirts forthese boys and I was like, who
are these boys?
Because you were not with them.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
These five random guys.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
But it was great.
Yeah, all right.
So I don't know if you guysknow this, but this week is a
big holiday.
It is World Emoji Day.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I thought you were going to say World Emojium Day.
Wow, that's perfect.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
You tied it up perfectly the number two
connections.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So World Emoji Day.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So my question for you to start today, is what
emoji do you use most often andwhat emoji do you hate when
people use whoever wants to gofirst all right, I can go with
the one that check his phone tosee which ones he uses the one
that I like the least is the twohands that are like trying to
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most people use them for praisehands, but I'm pretty sure
they're supposed to be like highfives yeah.
And like I do high fives at thegym and I do high fives outside
, but I don't think it's applied, do?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
you have one that you , that you just don't like.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
That's probably it.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Just because it's misapplied, that's it.
Favorite one, though, is likethe crying emoji face, because I
sent a lot of reels to the kidsand to Melinda with that in
there.
Like as in.
Like, it's funny, right?
Please affirm my sense of humor.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
The laughing crying one yeah, all right, all right,
I got it.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, I don't have a least favorite.
All emojis have a place here,in this, in this uh there's this
really good movie you shouldwatch.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's called the emoji movie.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
You'd love it.
Oh yeah, but I was lookingthrough and I couldn't see a
single emoji that I that I donot like, so yeah, my favorite
emoji is the face palm emoji.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I am a big fan, I use that.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I use that very often .
Um, my second favorite, uh,which cause I use it often with
my face palm is the shruggingemoji.
Just like that, yep.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, did you use it with like the, the slashes and
the dash before you could do theactual emoji.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
No, I didn't, I just I was not that that uh cool then
.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah, you can be cool now and not use the actual
emoji and then do that instead.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
My least favorite emoji this is the case before we
even started the conversationtoday is the poop emoji only
because I have a son and when hewas he got his first phone ish
device when he was about 10, andso poop was really funny and so
we would get the poop emojisall the time.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I don't love the poop emoji but you know, moving on
from this is a wonderful segue.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Actually, how many times can we talk about poop in
one day?
Speaking of poop?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
you know we had our week three message of hey, don't
skip this, our message seriesthat we're doing right now, and
Pastor Greg Griffith kind oftook us into Judges for this
Bible event and it is in Judges3 if you wanted to kind of look
up and check up on your own.
(04:37):
But I don't know, I forget nowwho won the rock paper scissors.
Seth and Chad were doing rockpaper scissors.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I won the rock paper scissors.
Seth and Chad were doing rockpaper scissors.
I won the rock paper scissors.
Fortunately, chad won, soChad's going to give us like a
little 10-second kind ofoverview.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh, 10 seconds Well.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I mean 30, 60, whatever you need Like a little
overview of this Bible eventbecause it may not be one that
you're familiar with.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah.
So before we jump into theactual details of the story, the
grander picture of the judgesis Israel messes up, they do
something that's evil on theside of the Lord, and then they
realize they messed up.
Something bad happens.
They're overrun by a country, aking, someone in particular,
and they cry out to the Lord andsay, hey, we need help.
And it's this cycle of sin,cycle of judges.
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They mess up, they need a God,and then he sends a judge.
And a judge can be simplydefined as someone who God sends
to save his people.
This judge then goes and doesexactly that save God's people.
They're good.
They're back up to the top ofthe cycle.
Next chapter boom, didsomething evil on the side of
the Lord.
Back to the cycle, over andover and over again.
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And this story is my personalfavorite story in the Bible, or
not book in the Bible excuse me,story in the Bible, because I'm
left-handed.
In this story we have a hood, ahood, a hood.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
All right, a hood, just say it with confidence and
no one will correct you ExactlyI shouldn't have said anything.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yep, my bad A hood.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
E.
However, you pronounce thatgreat.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Ehud, it is.
He is God's judge, who's chosenfor this story, to release them
from the Ammonites andespecially from King Eglon,
correct?
Is it Eglon or Eglon Shouldhave just been confident again.
But whatever it is, EglonAwesome.
Eglon, and we'll talk about thisin a little bit.
But he is a fat king, probablya big, big fat guy.
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I don't want to, I don't wantto get in too many details, but
he's.
He's heavy, he's a hunky guy.
Um and the uh, a hood goes toKing Eglon.
There's a lot of ease in thisstory.
Eglon's house, the palace orwhatever, and says um which it
goes through security.
But the thing is with Ehud.
He's unique because he'sleft-handed.
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That's why he's.
This is my favorite story inthe Bible, because I'm
left-handed, and in Bible timesthey would check the left side
for swords because everybody isright-handed.
Not many people wereleft-handed, so they wouldn't
check the right side where Ehudwould have kept his sword.
So he gets through securitywithout being caught.
The sword is in his cloak.
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He gets through no metaldetectors, then Gets through TSA
, scot-free and goes up to KingEglon and says hey, I have a
secret for you.
And so King Eglon says oh yeah,let's do it, Follow me into my
chambers and you can tell me thesecret.
Sends all of his servants out,locks the door and you can tell
me the secret.
Sends all of his servants out,locks the door, he stands up, he
says I have a message from Godfor you.
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King Eglon stands up inexcitement and bang Ehud stabs
him in the belly and his fatgoes around the sword so much
and it cuts his bowel.
So, number two poop goeseverywhere and King Eglon dies
and the servants.
Well then, Ehud climbs out thebathroom window and escapes, and
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the servants just think KingEglon's going to the bathroom
for a long time.
Until it's an uncomfortableamount of time, they go and
check on him.
And Pastor Greg made the jokethat, oh, when your spouse is in
the bathroom and you're like,are you?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
okay.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Is everything good in there.
That was the feeling that washappening for these servants and
they go in and check on KingEglon and he's dead.
But this allowed the Israelitesto be rid of their captor and
be saved through Ahud, the judge, the savior for the Israelites.
And they had I think it was 80Israelites and they had.
everything was 80 years, 80years of peace, 80 years of
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peace after that.
So that's the story, and thenwe're not going to get into it,
but chapter four, the.
The first verse is after ahood's death, the Israelites
again did evil on the side ofthe Lord Shocker.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
There's an old meme that I used to love that would
say God said don't do the things.
People said yeah, we won't dothe things.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Then they did the things.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
And it just repeat, repeat.
We are sinful human beings.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
That was longer than 10 seconds, but that's the
overview of the A-Hood story.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, this is this.
Hey, don't skip this Bibleevent for this week.
So now hearing the message,what are you guys taking beyond
Sunday?
What was like your firsttakeaway or something that
really stuck with you from thismessage?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
All right, I'll give you a break, because you just
got through all of this and youdid it right, so it's Ehud.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Okay, I actually looked it up, is it really?
Yep, I've said Ehud my entirelife, so Ehud is
transformational for me.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yes, so Seireh is what that's called, and then
it's Eglon, like a dozen eggs.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Like eggs, it's like a short E sound.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Okay, got it.
So that's a Se-goal for thosekeeping track at home, for the
Hebrew scholars, all right.
So here's what I took away fromthis, and Chad and I were
actually talking about thisearlier, and Chad and I were
actually talking about thisearlier.
So you have this awesomecontrasting story where you see
what a king of men actually willbring for his people.
And so in this you see thisking who was we'll just be
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really nice and call him Rotundor Rubenesque or something else.
That's really kind, but he wasfat.
That's what it says here in thetranslation of scriptures we're
reading.
So how does a king get fat?
How do you think a king getsfat?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I mean lots of food, lots of not exercising, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
So is this the guy that's going to be leading
everybody out in battle?
Is this the guy who's going tobe thinking about his people?
You know, like we have thismantra in our culture of leaders
eat last.
And that's all about how youshould serve your people before
you serve yourself.
And this is what a king lookslike when it's a king of men.
And so he's become fat, he's nolonger out in the front lines,
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he's no longer leading hispeople, but he is getting all
the rewards for being a leader.
And so what happens?
Well, this guy takes advantageof his people and lords over
them the power and the authority.
And what does he get for that?
Like a John Wick styleassassination, where something
sharp goes into this man'sabdomen and what comes out are
the fruits of his labor.
I mean, that is kind of ametaphorical way to understand
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it, like, realistically the poopcame out, but metaphorically
that's what you get.
But now you contrast this toJesus, because we're thinking
about this beyond Sunday, andyou have a King of Kings and a
Lord of Lords, one who does notlike try to Lord it over his
people.
In fact, taking on the name ofKing only happens, like, while
he's on the cross, and it'ssomething that's given to him.
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And it's a totally differentkingship, because he's here to
lead his people to be out front,to not have a home, to not eat,
but provide provision for the5,000 when they're hungry, or
the 4,000 when they're hungry.
And yet, even though theviolence is the same, the
outcome is completely different.
So he gets pierced through hisabdomen, but what comes out is
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blood and water, you know,showing us what he gave for us.
So his kingship is verydifferent, and now, because his
kingship is different, we wantto follow him in a different way
.
We don't follow like an Eglontype leader, because we're going
to get something out of itWe'll be elevated and we can
abuse people then.
Instead, we want to be likeJesus and serve like he does,
and so we'll give up what we cangive up.
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We'll be radically generous andwe will be courageous in the
way that we live our lives, likehe was.
So that's what I'm taking awayfrom Sunday is this connection
to the Lord, and I think we'regoing to talk a little bit about
that a little bit later too.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, that's great.
What about you, Chad?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I mean he loves left-handed people.
Come on.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
They're not sinister.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Right, not sinister.
Yeah, yeah, so I'm God'sfavorite.
Is what I hear?
No, for real.
I think it's related to thatthat God chooses people that
aren't fit for the job.
Almost he makes people fit forthe job.
The classic adage God doesn'tcall the equipped, he equips the
called.
And for me personally it's likedang.
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God calls me.
It doesn't matter what I'vedone, what experience I have,
who I am, but it matters who Iwill be through the Lord,
through Jesus, who he'sequipping me to be.
And in this stepping into thisnew role of student ministry,
like it's scary.
A lot of days I have impostersyndrome.
I don't feel like I can do whatI'm called to do.
Yet God calls me and he's goingto equip me because of the call
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.
I can feel confident in that,in that equipping of what's
going to happen in these, inthis next year and the next.
Who knows?
God knows how far.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So yeah, yeah, that's really good.
I think the biggest thing forme that I took out of this one
was just the intentionality andthis has kind of been a running
theme for me the last coupleweeks in these stories that are
kind of like off the beaten path, but God is so intentional in
them intentional in choosing thepeople that he wants to reveal
more about his son, about hislove, about his power, about how
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he protects his people,whatever it is.
He's so intentional about it.
It's not happenst it.
It's not happenstance, it's notlike oh, this guy was just in
the right place at the righttime.
It was very intentional, andthat's just a reminder to me of
how powerful God is and how hecontinues to have our backs.
Okay, so Greg kind of walkedthrough three different points
that he wanted to talk about,and so the first one that he
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talked about was God sees whatothers overlook.
How did that speak to you, orwhat struck you about that in
your own life, or about thismessage?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Well, chad talked about how Ahed was a character
that could be overlooked, but Ilove the idea of all of the
guards that were thereoverlooked this really obvious
thing that you could actuallykeep a weapon on your other leg,
and so I wonder how many times,you know, if you kind of switch
that around a little bit, wedon't think we have the weapons
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that we need to involve, beinvolved in spiritual warfare,
or we don't think we have theweapons that we need to be able
to reach out with the gospel andwe had, like, this other
awesome piece of equipment on usthe whole time and you only see
it in retrospect and you'relike, oh, my goodness, what else
is the Lord blessed me with sothat, like, I don't have to be
afraid of not being adequate ornot feeling like, oh, maybe I am
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an imposter here, cause I thinkthat's something that anybody's
listening to this right now isgoing to lean into, because I
cannot tell you how many timespeople talk to me about in their
jobs, in their life as a dad,as a mom, I don't know what I'm
doing.
Yeah, and I think that's thebest place to start is I don't
know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Admitting that.
Yeah, jesus, knowing that'swhere it is.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
What are my tools?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
And you know, we just pick up the scriptures and we
find, wow, this is an amazingarsenal of tools.
Yeah, I mean it's.
It's just that, like too manytimes, um, when I was in college
, when I was on campus ministry,um, at Concordia university,
texas, it was scary to like stepinto, like praying for people
like our, our, our campus pastor.
Some people on campus wouldtake us around and say, all
right, we're doing a prayer walk, find five people and go pray
for them.
Go up to them and ask, hey,what do you need to pray for?
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And don't say I'll pray for you, do it, pray for them right in
that moment.
It's like I don't have thewords to pray for somebody in
the moment.
That's scary.
It's scary to go and pray forsomeone.
I don't know what if I just saythe wrong thing, what if I do
the wrong thing?
And you told us the other daythat Peter Bay, when he's at
restaurants, he asks to pray forhis servers.
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He says what do you need prayerfor?
And then he prays for him.
That's just stuck with me.
What a simple way to witnessand to have a conversation.
A waiter, a waitress, somebodythat you have an interaction
with, you're guaranteed to ifyou go out to eat.
How simple is that?
Just to say hey, how can I prayfor you?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And I'm surprised at how vulnerable people are just
knowing you in that scenario.
I mean, they've known him for15 minutes or whatever, and I
don't know if it's easierbecause they think they're never
going to see him again.
But people like will be oh,this is what's going on in my
life.
You could pray for that, youknow.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Right and we'll pray like God, put people in my path,
do all these things, and thensomeone's right in front of us
and we'll have no idea.
We won't think like, oh, thisis who God's calling me to pray
for right now, this person who'sserving me literally.
What would it look like for meto flip that script and serve
them for a second?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You know it's interesting.
You talked about Peter and so,for those who are listening that
may not know, Peter is campusdirector at our Northwest campus
.
I had lunch with him yesterdayand he started talking to the
person that was helping us outat the restaurant.
He got his name and then withinfive minutes, they were
scrolling through his socials.
And this guy was telling themall about this clothing business
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he has and where his likeinspirations came from and
talked about movies he has andwhere his like inspirations came
from and talked about movies.
So to that point of uh justlistening to somebody who
probably feels like they're kindof being objectified or used as
a tool and, you know, like noteven seen.
Uh, god, put them right intheir path.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah, so cool, so so small of a thing and you don't
have to go ask for people, likefollow them on social media, do
all these things with thewaitress, but like just asking
for their name or one thing thatI've, that I've heard and
learned such an important piece.
When you're, when you're withpeople in homelessness asking
for their name the weekend, wecan do just the, the facelift of
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here.
Here's some money, here'ssomething, something on when
you're driving past, but what itlooked like to say like, hey,
what's your name and who are you?
Take two minutes out of yourday to make that time to just
see where God's working, seewhere he's moving and just be
intentional with people.
Do something that that didn'tseem like a spiritual moment but
that God could use that to turninto a spiritual moment.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
But just be, oh, go ahead I was going to say be
really careful, because if theirnext line to you is, I have a
secret message for you from Godyou might want to protect your
abdomen because apparentlythat's what happens here.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I was going to say you take the time to do that and
you make someone feel known andnot overlooked.
We're talking about how Godsees what others overlook.
They servers often feeloverlooked.
You know, people don't treatthem like a person.
You know what I mean.
They're just there to delivermy food and take my order.
Homeless people, you know, orpeople that are standing on the
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side of the road.
They feel overlooked, peopledon't recognize them.
A lot of people won't even makeeye contact, you know, and so
just making them feel like ahuman, that they are known and
they are valued.
You can't solve all theirproblems, but can you pray for
them, can you at least see them?
Yes, yeah, okay, I really likedhow God chose Ahud, because of
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the difference.
Like again it's thatintentionality for me which,
like I said, running theme forthis series.
But just this was what made himspecial.
You know, this was what madehim equipped to do this job
because he was left handed, heknew that this assassination was
going to be able to be executed, you know, in a way that was
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not going to draw a bunch ofattention to him or get him
killed.
That was just because he wasdifferent.
And I really enjoyed when Gregwas talking about all the ways
that left-handed people wereforced to be right-handed or-.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Tie their arm behind their back.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And I can imagine it's probably even worse in
Bible times you know what I mean.
Like that, it was just more outthere, okay.
So Pastor Greg then moved on tohis second point, which was
God's strategy is oftensurprising.
What spoke to you about thispiece of things?
Just that God's strategy isoften surprising.
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I feel like I'm surprised byGod all the time.
So this to me, like it was nota surprise that God's strategy
is surprising.
But in the case of some ofthese Bible events, like then I
understand more about, okay tothe people at this time, this is
really surprising.
Like that was what stuck to me.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I mean, every time I make a plan for my life, it ends
up being very different.
You can see God working in allthose differences of what I
expected.
Very different.
You can see God working in allthose differences of what I
expected.
And if we look to Jesus in theNew Testament, it was like man.
People thought he was going tobe this grand, glorious king who
had all the power, all theglory.
Yet he was.
It was different.
It was a different sort ofpower it was.
It was a power of relationshipsand a power to bring people
together and love people, not togo to the kings, the all the
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people that had so much powerand influenced them, but
influencing the ones that wewouldn't expect the tax
collectors, the prostitutes, thepeople that nobody else would
touch but that Jesus would usethem and use those interactions,
use the things that we didn'texpect for God to use for his
power and for his glory.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I was thinking about something very similar, and that
is how he uses the mostsurprising things, but nothing's
ever a surprise to him.
So like there's so muchintentionality that we've
already talked about already,and like how he even coordinated
the birth of ahead to besomeone who is left-handed, and
that could have been surprisingto everybody else and it could
have been surprising for us toread, but it wasn't a surprise
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to him so what other things doeshe have in front of us?
so this isn't just a like, thisthing that seems like it could
be a bad thing and then you seesomething good come of it.
You can also see it in terms oflike when in life do you think
that the Lord can work insomething that's really bad to
provide joy?
Not because of the bad thing,but despite the bad thing he's
still bringing it and I thinkthat just shows the presence and
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the impact of his ministry.
It's not like at all times youare expected in bad situations
to just be like pouting andmournful, but how often as a
pastor I've seen people in deepmourning also have these
beautiful moments of joy andlaughter that allows them to
live.
And if they were just to stayin that like morose state, I
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have no idea how they would makethe next step or eat their next
meal.
But because the Lord gave themsome life, because a little kid
came into their life and gavethem a hug, and that made the
difference for the day.
I think it's huge to acknowledgeyes he can do surprising things
, but he can also do surprisingthings when you don't expect it,
for your benefit, for joy andpeace despite chaos and
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everything else.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
That's really good.
So Pastor Greg made his thirdpoint as being God delivers
through the unexpected.
So that's kind of likesurprising, but not exactly the
same God delivers through theunexpected.
How did that speak to you orwhat did that make you think of?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I mean, like what you just said, Seth, I think death
is one of those things that Godtends to deliver in, always
delivers in, but we never expectit, because in this worldly
life, it's this one thing that'sstill nagging on us, that is
inevitable for each and everyone of us until Jesus comes back
for the second return.
It's hard Like it.
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Whenever there's a death orsomething, it's just like
there's a loss, there's, there'sa morning and there's something
that that is then missing, um,and yet, like you said, there's
many, many times that I've seenpeople in mourning, in death,
that have just had a joy andsomething about them that makes
no sense.
(23:45):
That makes no sense to you, toanybody else, even to themselves
sometimes.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, connecting death and unexpected how many of
Jesus' followers expected himto die.
Now, keep in mind, this isafter he told them three times
like this is going to happeneverybody Uh, I'm going to be
handed over into the hands ofsinful men, I will be beaten, I
will be uh and I will die, andon the third day I will rise.
And they didn't expect eitherone of those things to happen.
(24:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Cool story, bro.
Uh, where's my bread?
Uh, but they don't expect himto die, die.
In fact, even some of thepeople that were at the foot of
the cross are like, well, havethem call Elijah, maybe he'll
come.
It was kind of ironic that theysaid it that way, but his
followers didn't believe he wasgoing to die, and so that's why
they're all sad and such whenthey're in the upper room.
And then the other sad part ofthat is it's been three days.
(24:36):
They should have been expecting,like, oh, he died.
He said he's going to be backon day three.
It's day three.
We're up in this upper room notfor fear of the people that are
pursuing us, and that's whatthe scripture says.
No, they're up there.
They should be up there waitingfor him to return, but they
don't.
And it is to their startlementthat he actually like I don't
even know how he does that withhis body, because he's raised in
(24:58):
bodily form, but somehow heStar Treks right into the upper
room.
Yeah, I don't know how he didthat, but, that being said,
death was unexpected, but then,even more so, his resurrection
was unexpected.
So you really take a look atlike okay well, they got it
wrong sometimes and they were asclose as humanly possible to
(25:22):
walking with Jesus in ministryand maybe that gives us a little
bit of margin, as well as hisdisciples that we're not going
to get it right all the time.
But there are some things weshould get right, and that is he
did die for our sins and we canexpect that he's going to
connect us to his resurrection,and that's why I love like Bapt
(25:45):
Sundays coming up here at Kingof Kings and how many people
have been met in unexpected waysover the last few months
through so many differentministries.
Now are going to be connectedto the unexpected new life that
they never thought they'd haveaccess to, so praise Jesus for
that.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Well, it reminds me, like too many times in my life,
god's done a miraculous thingand it's like, wow, I can only
look back and know that that wasfrom God.
And in the moment, though, Iwas like God's not going to fix
this, this is going to behorrible.
Whatever this happened in mylife, it's it's unfixable.
Or something happened in mylife and I don't think God's
going to do anything about it.
(26:15):
And then, bang, he does itagain.
And the next time comes upwhere something could happen, or
I do something wrong orsomething goes not to exactly my
plan, and I'm like, all right,god's not going to do anything,
I'm just going to be here.
And then bang, he does it again.
It's like, over and over andover, and God works for that
unexpected moment, the time thatyou, you promises that he makes
to us, the promise that theygave the disciples, that he's
(26:37):
going to come back.
They didn't believe him, theydidn't understand what it meant,
and he came back.
And I mean, I can imagine everyday, we all go through moments
where we don't believe God'sgoing to do anything special.
We're just living our life withno purpose.
And then, bang, somethingamazing happens, like, wow, that
was awesome God.
Then next day you forget itagain.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yep, and if you want to take that and make that
lesson portable for anybodywho's listening, go listen to
Sons of Sunday.
It's a Christian band.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
It's like a super band.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Brandon Lake, stephen Furtick.
They got a song called God Didit and it's just a litany of all
of the amazing things thatnobody expected that God did and
I think for me it's acelebration and a hope of if he
did all those things.
Look at all the promises he hasfor us in the future.
He's going to do that too,despite, you know, the
brokenness and our expectationsand everything else.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, take heart in that truth and the promise that
God's faithful, that he's goodand he's amazing, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
That's great.
That's great.
So you kind of touched base onthis a little bit already, Seth.
But, like Greg asked, how doesthe story of Ehud parallel the
story of Jesus as a deliverer?
And he touched base on a coupleof pieces.
You kind of elaborate a littlemore.
How does that question speak toyou?
What are the similarities thatyou guys see, the parallels
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there?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Do you want to go Sure All?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
right, yeah, I mean it's the whole book of Judges
and the book of Kings, the firstand second Kings as well.
I mean it's it's the whole bookof judges and the book of Kings,
the first and second Kings aswell.
Um, god is or excuse me, jesusis the perfect fulfillment of
all of the broken judges, of allof the the broken Kings, um,
the broken priests, all of thebroken, broken things in this
world.
Um, jesus is the perfectfulfillment of that.
So every time I read in thebook of judges of Samson who
(28:14):
messed up, numerous, numeroustimes, of all the people who met
the judges that were notperfect, that were imperfect and
that led an imperfect solutionto the problem, because yet
again the Israelites did whatwas evil in the sight of the
Lord.
Yet Jesus came back, has diedfor us on the cross, and he's
coming back again.
(28:34):
That won't end with us doingevil in the sight of the Lord
again.
When he comes back, that secondtime it'll be the end of death,
the end of all things sad, evil, horrible, and it's the perfect
fulfillment of these brokenjudges, because those were
temporary fixes for a very deep,deeply rooted issue in all of
(28:55):
our lives, and Jesus is thateternal fix for the issue of sin
, death and the devil.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, and I actually kind of had something similar
too as I was reflecting andpraying on it, because the good
thing is I got a chance to seeGreg's messages before they get
preached and so.
I've been an opportunity tokind of marinate with it for a
while.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
So you're cheating is what you're saying, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I'm cheating hard is what I'm doing, but what I think
is interesting is Ehud goes inthere and he kills Eglon and
then that problem is dead.
And I think connecting that toJesus is important as well,
because in the Old Testament, asyou guys probably know, there's
this thing called types, and sothere's a priest type and
(29:37):
there's a prophet type, andthere's a prophet type and
there's a king type, and theyall fulfill some aspect of that
role, but then they getfulfilled, like filled, all the
way up in Jesus.
So there's an ultimate prophetand an ultimate priest and
ultimate king.
But we don't often talk aboutjudge and in this case, like
Eglon was judged and death wasthe verdict, and then Ehud comes
(30:02):
in and kills this problem andin the same way, jesus comes in
and wrestles death on us.
This is why one of my favoritescriptures in the whole wide
world is God made him, who knewno sin, to become sin so that we
might become the righteousnessof God.
And to me what that means isJesus took death onto him,
wrestled it on the cross and ashe died, he kills death and he
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kills wrath against sin.
And as he rises, he haswrestled death and sin away from
us.
And if he won that wrestlingmatch, my biggest struggle is
not to go back and regrapplewith the thing that's already
killed the old sins, the guiltthat came with that, the shame
that came with that.
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And that's so freeing to knowthat Jesus won that victory over
sin, death and the power of thedevil.
And if he did that already, mynext steps in sanctification and
following after him are ones invictory where, like it's not an
inevitable conclusion, I'mgoing to go back to the same
problems.
No, jesus killed it, it's gone,and so I just love the idea of
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this is like thrown a shadowtowards Jesus, like if you look
at this, you'll get a glimpse ofwhat the real fulfillment of
this type is going to bring,what really can happen in a
person's life.
So you know, some people wouldlike skip past these areas and
judges and be like and they'lldo this in the whole of the Old
Testament, they'll just go rightto Jesus.
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I don't realize how ultimatelypractical a teaching like this
is, and that's actually what Iappreciated about Greg's message
is that it wasn't this likehistory lesson about Old
Testament Israel.
It was.
This is how this applied tothem, and now that we see this
really well now.
You know how it applies to us,how much more valuable are you
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as a servant in the kingdombecause of it.
So that kind of teaching, Ilove it.
It's deep and it's focused onJesus and I just felt like it
was a blessing to the wholecongregation here.
Things like that.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, well, people often forget, like the Old
Testament is the book for theJewish faith, and that Jesus is
not, yes, at the start of a newchurch, but he's the fulfillment
of the Israelite people.
He's the fulfillment of theIsraelite people, he's the
fulfillment of the Jewish faith.
Christianity is the next stepof the Jewish faith for God's
eyes, for his vision, for thisfaith and people can separate
(32:30):
those like oh, I'm just a NewTestament person, I don't touch
into the Old Testament much, but, like you said, it has much
depth.
It has so much meaning becauseit's the precursor to Jesus.
It's the Old Testament where ithas the depth.
It has so much meaning becauseit's it's the precursor to Jesus
.
It's the old Testament where ithas the old covenants, all
these things with so muchhistorical richness and value
that Jesus not only changes butbut fulfills.
(32:50):
That he fulfills the promisesset in the, in the old Testament
, and that's why he taught fromthe old.
Testament oh exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, he's 12 years old.
Can you imagine, if our Kidmankids stepped up and they're like
I will now recount to you thebook of Isaiah.
That's awesome.
You can keep doing that.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
All right.
So, as we wrap up today, whatare your final takeaways from
this message?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I'm going to have to come up with a really good poop
story because the other teachingteam pastors had the
opportunity and I don't know ifI can pass it up.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know howI'm going to do it, but You've
got some time I do.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
September.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
If you ever hear just a random poop story from Seth,
you'll know why.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I'm testing.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I'm floating the idea .
You're floating what?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
There we go.
I'm glad that we're back tothis point of kindergarten humor
again, like we got real deepwith typology.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
We got to go full circle, Dude.
I'm working with middleschoolers.
This is my whole jam.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Poop.
Humor is half of it.
Oh, it's awesome yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I mean, I think for me it's just like that, it's
simple.
But God uses unexpected people,he uses unexpected things and
that's how he fulfills his, hisdream for us, his love for us.
Um, yeah, what?
What are you guys dealing within your life that has that that
you think has no meaning orisn't going to affect your life
(34:17):
beyond just a hard day?
But what would that look like?
To say God, how are we going touse this horrible moment for
your, your, your beauty, for,for your fulfillment, for your
grace, and in my life, to teachme something, to, to show me
something new and to to totransform me into who you, you
want me to be?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I love that, the way that you put that, because that
shows that it's not to try tocall that bad thing a good thing
.
It's trying to say that Jesusis present and makes some
beautiful things despite somechaos and some nasty things.
And that's so much better thankind of that false view of what
Christianity sometimes pushes.
And that is false view of whatChristianity sometimes pushes
(35:01):
and that is well.
You know your child got hurtand here's why you know it's a
really good thing.
No, it was terrible and and Ithink that causes people not to
be able to actually grieve- Uhand, uh, it also puts this like
real fake view of whatChristianity is.
No, if something is grievingworthy, then you should grieve.
Uh, it was a gift that God hadgiven to you and somehow it got
broken or busted or gone now.
But what's beautiful about theway that you're describing that
(35:23):
is?
But Jesus is still there, Right?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
And how amazing is it that we serve a God that is
powerful enough to make thosehorrible, broken things into
something beautiful.
To turn these graves intogardens, the Brandon Lake song,
graves into Gardens just is likeincredible with that.
The graves into gardens, thebones into armies, all these
different things that he canturn these horribly broken
things into something beautiful.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Is that Brandon Lake?
Or is that Elevation Worship?
I mean, he sings it.
I've heard him sing it before.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I'm not sure.
Actually, I'm sure Elevationwrote it, but it's a great song.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Oh, it's amazing.
I think every church has, sinceit came out, sings that on
Easter.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
That's kind of fitting.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I really liked the idea of how God can use each of
us, which is, you know, a lot ofus feel unworthy or we feel
broken or we feel less than, butGod can use any of us, and I
like the quote from Ben Franklinthat Greg used and it was hide,
not your talents, they weremade for use.
What's?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
a sundial in the shade and I really liked that
about it, doesn't?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
you may not think it's something special.
I'm sure Ahud didn't think hisleft-handedness was something
special at first, when he wasbeing shunned or having his hand
tied down potentially orsomething like that, but it was
special in the grand purpose ofwhat God was gonna do with it.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah Well, and if you haven't listening, taken time
to figure out who you are andwhat you are, you got to know if
you're a sundial or not If youtry and tell the time.
If you're not a sundial, you'renot going to do much good.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
If you're a.
You might be an Apple watch,right?
If?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
you're an Apple watch .
You try and stand in the sun.
You're just going to not.
No one's gonna be able to seepurpose Right.
Yeah, and but doesn't King ofKings have a spiritual giftings
test?
Speaker 1 (36:59):
We do have a spiritual gifting test.
You can find it on the websiteor in the app.
Yeah, that's a great thing, andthe other thing that we have
talking about purpose coming upis we're starting a new thing
here at King of Kings calledpizza with purpose.
And our first one takes placeat the Millard and Northwest
campuses.
It's coming to Fremont soon,but at Millard and Northwest
it'll be on August 10th from1230 to 2.
(37:19):
You can register online Checkthat out in the app or on our
website too.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Find out more information and if anybody's
listening that has a heart forstudents, email me at Chad, at
kingofkingsorg.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
We'd love to see you guys jump in with students If
your spiritual gifting is poopjokes.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Email me immediately.
I need you guys on my team.
Email me immediately.
I need you guys on my team.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yes, alright well, thank you guys so much for being
here we will hear the lastmessage in this series next week
and until then, let's keepliving our faith beyond Sunday.
Thank you.
Welcome to Beyond Sunday, the King of Kings
podcast, where we dive a littlebit into our message series and
find out what we're takingBeyond Sunday.
My name is Dena Newsom and I amexcited that I have some brand
new guests to the podcast today.
Go ahead and introduceyourselves, guys.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
All right, can I go new guy number?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
one.
I think you can, I'll be numbertwo, all right.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That has a lot to do.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Did you plan that?
No, okay.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Sure, uh, my name is Seth Seth Flick.
I get to be the campus pastorhere at the Millard campus.
Uh, I'm married to a wonderfulwoman by the name of Melinda and
I'm going to shout out to myboys because they listened to
the podcast.
So I'm going to say hello toNoah, micah, elijah, judah and
Luca, who I know is going tolisten to this as soon as it
gets uploaded, all right, and.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I'm Chad Kelly.
You'll understand why welaughed at number two here in a
little bit, but I'm the studentintern here.
King of Kings as well.
Just started the same day asSeth a couple of weeks ago.
I'll shout out my wonderfulwife, Caroline, and Seth's boys
as well.
They love you too.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I just feel like neglected if I don't shout out
Seth's boys, so you know heyguys.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Oh yeah, it was so good to kick.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
All right.
Well, I did meet them when youcame for your visit.
They all came and got t-shirtsfrom me.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh, that's where they got the next steps through.
Yes, you are their secondfavorite person.
The first favorite person isGreg, because Greg was like you
guys need some free stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yes, yeah, greg literally walked them over and
said, hey, we need shirts forthese boys and I was like, who
are these boys?
Because you were not with them.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
These five random guys.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
But it was great.
Yeah, all right.
So I don't know if you guysknow this, but this week is a
big holiday.
It is World Emoji Day.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I thought you were going to say World Emojium Day.
Wow, that's perfect.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
You tied it up perfectly the number two
connections.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So World Emoji Day.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So my question for you to start today, is what
emoji do you use most often andwhat emoji do you hate when
people use whoever wants to gofirst all right, I can go with
the one that check his phone tosee which ones he uses the one
that I like the least is the twohands that are like trying to
(02:22):
most people use them for praisehands, but I'm pretty sure
they're supposed to be like highfives yeah.
And like I do high fives at thegym and I do high fives outside
, but I don't think it's applied, do?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
you have one that you , that you just don't like.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
That's probably it.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Just because it's misapplied, that's it.
Favorite one, though, is likethe crying emoji face, because I
sent a lot of reels to the kidsand to Melinda with that in
there.
Like as in.
Like, it's funny, right?
Please affirm my sense of humor.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
The laughing crying one yeah, all right, all right,
I got it.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, I don't have a least favorite.
All emojis have a place here,in this, in this uh there's this
really good movie you shouldwatch.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's called the emoji movie.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
You'd love it.
Oh yeah, but I was lookingthrough and I couldn't see a
single emoji that I that I donot like, so yeah, my favorite
emoji is the face palm emoji.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
I am a big fan, I use that.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I use that very often .
Um, my second favorite, uh,which cause I use it often with
my face palm is the shruggingemoji.
Just like that, yep.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah, did you use it with like the, the slashes and
the dash before you could do theactual emoji.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
No, I didn't, I just I was not that that uh cool then
.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yeah, you can be cool now and not use the actual
emoji and then do that instead.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
My least favorite emoji this is the case before we
even started the conversationtoday is the poop emoji only
because I have a son and when hewas he got his first phone ish
device when he was about 10, andso poop was really funny and so
we would get the poop emojisall the time.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I don't love the poop emoji but you know, moving on
from this is a wonderful segue.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Actually, how many times can we talk about poop in
one day?
Speaking of poop?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
you know we had our week three message of hey, don't
skip this, our message seriesthat we're doing right now, and
Pastor Greg Griffith kind oftook us into Judges for this
Bible event and it is in Judges3 if you wanted to kind of look
up and check up on your own.
(04:37):
But I don't know, I forget nowwho won the rock paper scissors.
Seth and Chad were doing rockpaper scissors.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I won the rock paper scissors.
Seth and Chad were doing rockpaper scissors.
I won the rock paper scissors.
Fortunately, chad won, soChad's going to give us like a
little 10-second kind ofoverview.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh, 10 seconds Well.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
I mean 30, 60, whatever you need Like a little
overview of this Bible eventbecause it may not be one that
you're familiar with.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah.
So before we jump into theactual details of the story, the
grander picture of the judgesis Israel messes up, they do
something that's evil on theside of the Lord, and then they
realize they messed up.
Something bad happens.
They're overrun by a country, aking, someone in particular,
and they cry out to the Lord andsay, hey, we need help.
And it's this cycle of sin,cycle of judges.
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They mess up, they need a God,and then he sends a judge.
And a judge can be simplydefined as someone who God sends
to save his people.
This judge then goes and doesexactly that save God's people.
They're good.
They're back up to the top ofthe cycle.
Next chapter boom, didsomething evil on the side of
the Lord.
Back to the cycle, over andover and over again.
(05:42):
And this story is my personalfavorite story in the Bible, or
not book in the Bible excuse me,story in the Bible, because I'm
left-handed.
In this story we have a hood, ahood, a hood.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
All right, a hood, just say it with confidence and
no one will correct you ExactlyI shouldn't have said anything.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Yep, my bad A hood.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
E.
However, you pronounce thatgreat.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Ehud, it is.
He is God's judge, who's chosenfor this story, to release them
from the Ammonites andespecially from King Eglon,
correct?
Is it Eglon or Eglon Shouldhave just been confident again.
But whatever it is, EglonAwesome.
Eglon, and we'll talk about thisin a little bit.
But he is a fat king, probablya big, big fat guy.
(06:25):
I don't want to, I don't wantto get in too many details, but
he's.
He's heavy, he's a hunky guy.
Um and the uh, a hood goes toKing Eglon.
There's a lot of ease in thisstory.
Eglon's house, the palace orwhatever, and says um which it
goes through security.
But the thing is with Ehud.
He's unique because he'sleft-handed.
(06:46):
That's why he's.
This is my favorite story inthe Bible, because I'm
left-handed, and in Bible timesthey would check the left side
for swords because everybody isright-handed.
Not many people wereleft-handed, so they wouldn't
check the right side where Ehudwould have kept his sword.
So he gets through securitywithout being caught.
The sword is in his cloak.
(07:07):
He gets through no metaldetectors, then Gets through TSA
, scot-free and goes up to KingEglon and says hey, I have a
secret for you.
And so King Eglon says oh yeah,let's do it, Follow me into my
chambers and you can tell me thesecret.
Sends all of his servants out,locks the door and you can tell
me the secret.
Sends all of his servants out,locks the door, he stands up, he
says I have a message from Godfor you.
(07:27):
King Eglon stands up inexcitement and bang Ehud stabs
him in the belly and his fatgoes around the sword so much
and it cuts his bowel.
So, number two poop goeseverywhere and King Eglon dies
and the servants.
Well then, Ehud climbs out thebathroom window and escapes, and
(07:50):
the servants just think KingEglon's going to the bathroom
for a long time.
Until it's an uncomfortableamount of time, they go and
check on him.
And Pastor Greg made the jokethat, oh, when your spouse is in
the bathroom and you're like,are you?
Speaker 1 (08:04):
okay.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Is everything good in there.
That was the feeling that washappening for these servants and
they go in and check on KingEglon and he's dead.
But this allowed the Israelitesto be rid of their captor and
be saved through Ahud, the judge, the savior for the Israelites.
And they had I think it was 80Israelites and they had.
everything was 80 years, 80years of peace, 80 years of
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peace after that.
So that's the story, and thenwe're not going to get into it,
but chapter four, the.
The first verse is after ahood's death, the Israelites
again did evil on the side ofthe Lord Shocker.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
There's an old meme that I used to love that would
say God said don't do the things.
People said yeah, we won't dothe things.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Then they did the things.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
And it just repeat, repeat.
We are sinful human beings.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
That was longer than 10 seconds, but that's the
overview of the A-Hood story.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, this is this.
Hey, don't skip this Bibleevent for this week.
So now hearing the message,what are you guys taking beyond
Sunday?
What was like your firsttakeaway or something that
really stuck with you from thismessage?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
All right, I'll give you a break, because you just
got through all of this and youdid it right, so it's Ehud.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Okay, I actually looked it up, is it really?
Yep, I've said Ehud my entirelife, so Ehud is
transformational for me.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yes, so Seireh is what that's called, and then
it's Eglon, like a dozen eggs.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Like eggs, it's like a short E sound.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Okay, got it.
So that's a Se-goal for thosekeeping track at home, for the
Hebrew scholars, all right.
So here's what I took away fromthis, and Chad and I were
actually talking about thisearlier, and Chad and I were
actually talking about thisearlier.
So you have this awesomecontrasting story where you see
what a king of men actually willbring for his people.
And so in this you see thisking who was we'll just be
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really nice and call him Rotundor Rubenesque or something else.
That's really kind, but he wasfat.
That's what it says here in thetranslation of scriptures we're
reading.
So how does a king get fat?
How do you think a king getsfat?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I mean lots of food, lots of not exercising, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
So is this the guy that's going to be leading
everybody out in battle?
Is this the guy who's going tobe thinking about his people?
You know, like we have thismantra in our culture of leaders
eat last.
And that's all about how youshould serve your people before
you serve yourself.
And this is what a king lookslike when it's a king of men.
And so he's become fat, he's nolonger out in the front lines,
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he's no longer leading hispeople, but he is getting all
the rewards for being a leader.
And so what happens?
Well, this guy takes advantageof his people and lords over
them the power and the authority.
And what does he get for that?
Like a John Wick styleassassination, where something
sharp goes into this man'sabdomen and what comes out are
the fruits of his labor.
I mean, that is kind of ametaphorical way to understand
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it, like, realistically the poopcame out, but metaphorically
that's what you get.
But now you contrast this toJesus, because we're thinking
about this beyond Sunday, andyou have a King of Kings and a
Lord of Lords, one who does notlike try to Lord it over his
people.
In fact, taking on the name ofKing only happens, like, while
he's on the cross, and it'ssomething that's given to him.
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And it's a totally differentkingship, because he's here to
lead his people to be out front,to not have a home, to not eat,
but provide provision for the5,000 when they're hungry, or
the 4,000 when they're hungry.
And yet, even though theviolence is the same, the
outcome is completely different.
So he gets pierced through hisabdomen, but what comes out is
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blood and water, you know,showing us what he gave for us.
So his kingship is verydifferent, and now, because his
kingship is different, we wantto follow him in a different way
.
We don't follow like an Eglontype leader, because we're going
to get something out of itWe'll be elevated and we can
abuse people then.
Instead, we want to be likeJesus and serve like he does,
and so we'll give up what we cangive up.
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We'll be radically generous andwe will be courageous in the
way that we live our lives, likehe was.
So that's what I'm taking awayfrom Sunday is this connection
to the Lord, and I think we'regoing to talk a little bit about
that a little bit later too.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yeah, that's great.
What about you, Chad?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I mean he loves left-handed people.
Come on.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
They're not sinister.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Right, not sinister.
Yeah, yeah, so I'm God'sfavorite.
Is what I hear?
No, for real.
I think it's related to thatthat God chooses people that
aren't fit for the job.
Almost he makes people fit forthe job.
The classic adage God doesn'tcall the equipped, he equips the
called.
And for me personally it's likedang.
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God calls me.
It doesn't matter what I'vedone, what experience I have,
who I am, but it matters who Iwill be through the Lord,
through Jesus, who he'sequipping me to be.
And in this stepping into thisnew role of student ministry,
like it's scary.
A lot of days I have impostersyndrome.
I don't feel like I can do whatI'm called to do.
Yet God calls me and he's goingto equip me because of the call
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.
I can feel confident in that,in that equipping of what's
going to happen in these, inthis next year and the next.
Who knows?
God knows how far.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
So yeah, yeah, that's really good.
I think the biggest thing forme that I took out of this one
was just the intentionality andthis has kind of been a running
theme for me the last coupleweeks in these stories that are
kind of like off the beaten path, but God is so intentional in
them intentional in choosing thepeople that he wants to reveal
more about his son, about hislove, about his power, about how
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he protects his people,whatever it is.
He's so intentional about it.
It's not happenst it.
It's not happenstance, it's notlike oh, this guy was just in
the right place at the righttime.
It was very intentional, andthat's just a reminder to me of
how powerful God is and how hecontinues to have our backs.
Okay, so Greg kind of walkedthrough three different points
that he wanted to talk about,and so the first one that he
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talked about was God sees whatothers overlook.
How did that speak to you, orwhat struck you about that in
your own life, or about thismessage?
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Well, chad talked about how Ahed was a character
that could be overlooked, but Ilove the idea of all of the
guards that were thereoverlooked this really obvious
thing that you could actuallykeep a weapon on your other leg,
and so I wonder how many times,you know, if you kind of switch
that around a little bit, wedon't think we have the weapons
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that we need to involve, beinvolved in spiritual warfare,
or we don't think we have theweapons that we need to be able
to reach out with the gospel andwe had, like, this other
awesome piece of equipment on usthe whole time and you only see
it in retrospect and you'relike, oh, my goodness, what else
is the Lord blessed me with sothat, like, I don't have to be
afraid of not being adequate ornot feeling like, oh, maybe I am
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an imposter here, cause I thinkthat's something that anybody's
listening to this right now isgoing to lean into, because I
cannot tell you how many timespeople talk to me about in their
jobs, in their life as a dad,as a mom, I don't know what I'm
doing.
Yeah, and I think that's thebest place to start is I don't
know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Admitting that.
Yeah, jesus, knowing that'swhere it is.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
What are my tools?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
And you know, we just pick up the scriptures and we
find, wow, this is an amazingarsenal of tools.
Yeah, I mean it's.
It's just that, like too manytimes, um, when I was in college
, when I was on campus ministry,um, at Concordia university,
texas, it was scary to like stepinto, like praying for people
like our, our, our campus pastor.
Some people on campus wouldtake us around and say, all
right, we're doing a prayer walk, find five people and go pray
for them.
Go up to them and ask, hey,what do you need to pray for?
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And don't say I'll pray for you, do it, pray for them right in
that moment.
It's like I don't have thewords to pray for somebody in
the moment.
That's scary.
It's scary to go and pray forsomeone.
I don't know what if I just saythe wrong thing, what if I do
the wrong thing?
And you told us the other daythat Peter Bay, when he's at
restaurants, he asks to pray forhis servers.
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He says what do you need prayerfor?
And then he prays for him.
That's just stuck with me.
What a simple way to witnessand to have a conversation.
A waiter, a waitress, somebodythat you have an interaction
with, you're guaranteed to ifyou go out to eat.
How simple is that?
Just to say hey, how can I prayfor you?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
And I'm surprised at how vulnerable people are just
knowing you in that scenario.
I mean, they've known him for15 minutes or whatever, and I
don't know if it's easierbecause they think they're never
going to see him again.
But people like will be oh,this is what's going on in my
life.
You could pray for that, youknow.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Right and we'll pray like God, put people in my path,
do all these things, and thensomeone's right in front of us
and we'll have no idea.
We won't think like, oh, thisis who God's calling me to pray
for right now, this person who'sserving me literally.
What would it look like for meto flip that script and serve
them for a second?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
You know it's interesting.
You talked about Peter and so,for those who are listening that
may not know, Peter is campusdirector at our Northwest campus
.
I had lunch with him yesterdayand he started talking to the
person that was helping us outat the restaurant.
He got his name and then withinfive minutes, they were
scrolling through his socials.
And this guy was telling themall about this clothing business
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he has and where his likeinspirations came from and
talked about movies he has andwhere his like inspirations came
from and talked about movies.
So to that point of uh justlistening to somebody who
probably feels like they're kindof being objectified or used as
a tool and, you know, like noteven seen.
Uh, god, put them right intheir path.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Yeah, so cool, so so small of a thing and you don't
have to go ask for people, likefollow them on social media, do
all these things with thewaitress, but like just asking
for their name or one thing thatI've, that I've heard and
learned such an important piece.
When you're, when you're withpeople in homelessness asking
for their name the weekend, wecan do just the, the facelift of
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here.
Here's some money, here'ssomething, something on when
you're driving past, but what itlooked like to say like, hey,
what's your name and who are you?
Take two minutes out of yourday to make that time to just
see where God's working, seewhere he's moving and just be
intentional with people.
Do something that that didn'tseem like a spiritual moment but
that God could use that to turninto a spiritual moment.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
But just be, oh, go ahead I was going to say be
really careful, because if theirnext line to you is, I have a
secret message for you from Godyou might want to protect your
abdomen because apparentlythat's what happens here.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I was going to say you take the time to do that and
you make someone feel known andnot overlooked.
We're talking about how Godsees what others overlook.
They servers often feeloverlooked.
You know, people don't treatthem like a person.
You know what I mean.
They're just there to delivermy food and take my order.
Homeless people, you know, orpeople that are standing on the
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side of the road.
They feel overlooked, peopledon't recognize them.
A lot of people won't even makeeye contact, you know, and so
just making them feel like ahuman, that they are known and
they are valued.
You can't solve all theirproblems, but can you pray for
them, can you at least see them?
Yes, yeah, okay, I really likedhow God chose Ahud, because of
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the difference.
Like again it's thatintentionality for me which,
like I said, running theme forthis series.
But just this was what made himspecial.
You know, this was what madehim equipped to do this job
because he was left handed, heknew that this assassination was
going to be able to be executed, you know, in a way that was
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not going to draw a bunch ofattention to him or get him
killed.
That was just because he wasdifferent.
And I really enjoyed when Gregwas talking about all the ways
that left-handed people wereforced to be right-handed or-.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Tie their arm behind their back.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
And I can imagine it's probably even worse in
Bible times you know what I mean.
Like that, it was just more outthere, okay.
So Pastor Greg then moved on tohis second point, which was
God's strategy is oftensurprising.
What spoke to you about thispiece of things?
Just that God's strategy isoften surprising.
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I feel like I'm surprised byGod all the time.
So this to me, like it was nota surprise that God's strategy
is surprising.
But in the case of some ofthese Bible events, like then I
understand more about, okay tothe people at this time, this is
really surprising.
Like that was what stuck to me.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
I mean, every time I make a plan for my life, it ends
up being very different.
You can see God working in allthose differences of what I
expected.
Very different.
You can see God working in allthose differences of what I
expected.
And if we look to Jesus in theNew Testament, it was like man.
People thought he was going tobe this grand, glorious king who
had all the power, all theglory.
Yet he was.
It was different.
It was a different sort ofpower it was.
It was a power of relationshipsand a power to bring people
together and love people, not togo to the kings, the all the
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people that had so much powerand influenced them, but
influencing the ones that wewouldn't expect the tax
collectors, the prostitutes, thepeople that nobody else would
touch but that Jesus would usethem and use those interactions,
use the things that we didn'texpect for God to use for his
power and for his glory.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I was thinking about something very similar, and that
is how he uses the mostsurprising things, but nothing's
ever a surprise to him.
So like there's so muchintentionality that we've
already talked about already,and like how he even coordinated
the birth of ahead to besomeone who is left-handed, and
that could have been surprisingto everybody else and it could
have been surprising for us toread, but it wasn't a surprise
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to him so what other things doeshe have in front of us?
so this isn't just a like, thisthing that seems like it could
be a bad thing and then you seesomething good come of it.
You can also see it in terms oflike when in life do you think
that the Lord can work insomething that's really bad to
provide joy?
Not because of the bad thing,but despite the bad thing he's
still bringing it and I thinkthat just shows the presence and
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the impact of his ministry.
It's not like at all times youare expected in bad situations
to just be like pouting andmournful, but how often as a
pastor I've seen people in deepmourning also have these
beautiful moments of joy andlaughter that allows them to
live.
And if they were just to stayin that like morose state, I
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have no idea how they would makethe next step or eat their next
meal.
But because the Lord gave themsome life, because a little kid
came into their life and gavethem a hug, and that made the
difference for the day.
I think it's huge to acknowledgeyes he can do surprising things
, but he can also do surprisingthings when you don't expect it,
for your benefit, for joy andpeace despite chaos and
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everything else.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
That's really good.
So Pastor Greg made his thirdpoint as being God delivers
through the unexpected.
So that's kind of likesurprising, but not exactly the
same God delivers through theunexpected.
How did that speak to you orwhat did that make you think of?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
I mean, like what you just said, Seth, I think death
is one of those things that Godtends to deliver in, always
delivers in, but we never expectit, because in this worldly
life, it's this one thing that'sstill nagging on us, that is
inevitable for each and everyone of us until Jesus comes back
for the second return.
It's hard Like it.
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Whenever there's a death orsomething, it's just like
there's a loss, there's, there'sa morning and there's something
that that is then missing, um,and yet, like you said, there's
many, many times that I've seenpeople in mourning, in death,
that have just had a joy andsomething about them that makes
no sense.
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That makes no sense to you, toanybody else, even to themselves
sometimes.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, connecting death and unexpected how many of
Jesus' followers expected himto die.
Now, keep in mind, this isafter he told them three times
like this is going to happeneverybody Uh, I'm going to be
handed over into the hands ofsinful men, I will be beaten, I
will be uh and I will die, andon the third day I will rise.
And they didn't expect eitherone of those things to happen.
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Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Whatever?
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Cool story, bro.
Uh, where's my bread?
Uh, but they don't expect himto die, die.
In fact, even some of thepeople that were at the foot of
the cross are like, well, havethem call Elijah, maybe he'll
come.
It was kind of ironic that theysaid it that way, but his
followers didn't believe he wasgoing to die, and so that's why
they're all sad and such whenthey're in the upper room.
And then the other sad part ofthat is it's been three days.
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They should have been expecting,like, oh, he died.
He said he's going to be backon day three.
It's day three.
We're up in this upper room notfor fear of the people that are
pursuing us, and that's whatthe scripture says.
No, they're up there.
They should be up there waitingfor him to return, but they
don't.
And it is to their startlementthat he actually like I don't
even know how he does that withhis body, because he's raised in
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bodily form, but somehow heStar Treks right into the upper
room.
Yeah, I don't know how he didthat, but, that being said,
death was unexpected, but then,even more so, his resurrection
was unexpected.
So you really take a look atlike okay well, they got it
wrong sometimes and they were asclose as humanly possible to
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walking with Jesus in ministryand maybe that gives us a little
bit of margin, as well as hisdisciples that we're not going
to get it right all the time.
But there are some things weshould get right, and that is he
did die for our sins and we canexpect that he's going to
connect us to his resurrection,and that's why I love like Bapt
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Sundays coming up here at Kingof Kings and how many people
have been met in unexpected waysover the last few months
through so many differentministries.
Now are going to be connectedto the unexpected new life that
they never thought they'd haveaccess to, so praise Jesus for
that.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Well, it reminds me, like too many times in my life,
god's done a miraculous thingand it's like, wow, I can only
look back and know that that wasfrom God.
And in the moment, though, Iwas like God's not going to fix
this, this is going to behorrible.
Whatever this happened in mylife, it's it's unfixable.
Or something happened in mylife and I don't think God's
going to do anything about it.
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And then, bang, he does itagain.
And the next time comes upwhere something could happen, or
I do something wrong orsomething goes not to exactly my
plan, and I'm like, all right,god's not going to do anything,
I'm just going to be here.
And then bang, he does it again.
It's like, over and over andover, and God works for that
unexpected moment, the time thatyou, you promises that he makes
to us, the promise that theygave the disciples, that he's
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going to come back.
They didn't believe him, theydidn't understand what it meant,
and he came back.
And I mean, I can imagine everyday, we all go through moments
where we don't believe God'sgoing to do anything special.
We're just living our life withno purpose.
And then, bang, somethingamazing happens, like, wow, that
was awesome God.
Then next day you forget itagain.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yep, and if you want to take that and make that
lesson portable for anybodywho's listening, go listen to
Sons of Sunday.
It's a Christian band.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
It's like a super band.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Brandon Lake, stephen Furtick.
They got a song called God Didit and it's just a litany of all
of the amazing things thatnobody expected that God did and
I think for me it's acelebration and a hope of if he
did all those things.
Look at all the promises he hasfor us in the future.
He's going to do that too,despite, you know, the
brokenness and our expectationsand everything else.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah, take heart in that truth and the promise that
God's faithful, that he's goodand he's amazing, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
That's great.
That's great.
So you kind of touched base onthis a little bit already, Seth.
But, like Greg asked, how doesthe story of Ehud parallel the
story of Jesus as a deliverer?
And he touched base on a coupleof pieces.
You kind of elaborate a littlemore.
How does that question speak toyou?
What are the similarities thatyou guys see, the parallels
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there?
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Do you want to go Sure All?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
right, yeah, I mean it's the whole book of Judges
and the book of Kings, the firstand second Kings as well.
I mean it's it's the whole bookof judges and the book of Kings,
the first and second Kings aswell.
Um, god is or excuse me, jesusis the perfect fulfillment of
all of the broken judges, of allof the the broken Kings, um,
the broken priests, all of thebroken, broken things in this
world.
Um, jesus is the perfectfulfillment of that.
So every time I read in thebook of judges of Samson who
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messed up, numerous, numeroustimes, of all the people who met
the judges that were notperfect, that were imperfect and
that led an imperfect solutionto the problem, because yet
again the Israelites did whatwas evil in the sight of the
Lord.
Yet Jesus came back, has diedfor us on the cross, and he's
coming back again.
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That won't end with us doingevil in the sight of the Lord
again.
When he comes back, that secondtime it'll be the end of death,
the end of all things sad, evil, horrible, and it's the perfect
fulfillment of these brokenjudges, because those were
temporary fixes for a very deep,deeply rooted issue in all of
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our lives, and Jesus is thateternal fix for the issue of sin
, death and the devil.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, and I actually kind of had something similar
too as I was reflecting andpraying on it, because the good
thing is I got a chance to seeGreg's messages before they get
preached and so.
I've been an opportunity tokind of marinate with it for a
while.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
So you're cheating is what you're saying, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I'm cheating hard is what I'm doing, but what I think
is interesting is Ehud goes inthere and he kills Eglon and
then that problem is dead.
And I think connecting that toJesus is important as well,
because in the Old Testament, asyou guys probably know, there's
this thing called types, and sothere's a priest type and
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there's a prophet type, andthere's a prophet type and
there's a king type, and theyall fulfill some aspect of that
role, but then they getfulfilled, like filled, all the
way up in Jesus.
So there's an ultimate prophetand an ultimate priest and
ultimate king.
But we don't often talk aboutjudge and in this case, like
Eglon was judged and death wasthe verdict, and then Ehud comes
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in and kills this problem andin the same way, jesus comes in
and wrestles death on us.
This is why one of my favoritescriptures in the whole wide
world is God made him, who knewno sin, to become sin so that we
might become the righteousnessof God.
And to me what that means isJesus took death onto him,
wrestled it on the cross and ashe died, he kills death and he
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kills wrath against sin.
And as he rises, he haswrestled death and sin away from
us.
And if he won that wrestlingmatch, my biggest struggle is
not to go back and regrapplewith the thing that's already
killed the old sins, the guiltthat came with that, the shame
that came with that.
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And that's so freeing to knowthat Jesus won that victory over
sin, death and the power of thedevil.
And if he did that already, mynext steps in sanctification and
following after him are ones invictory where, like it's not an
inevitable conclusion, I'mgoing to go back to the same
problems.
No, jesus killed it, it's gone,and so I just love the idea of
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this is like thrown a shadowtowards Jesus, like if you look
at this, you'll get a glimpse ofwhat the real fulfillment of
this type is going to bring,what really can happen in a
person's life.
So you know, some people wouldlike skip past these areas and
judges and be like and they'lldo this in the whole of the Old
Testament, they'll just go rightto Jesus.
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I don't realize how ultimatelypractical a teaching like this
is, and that's actually what Iappreciated about Greg's message
is that it wasn't this likehistory lesson about Old
Testament Israel.
It was.
This is how this applied tothem, and now that we see this
really well now.
You know how it applies to us,how much more valuable are you
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as a servant in the kingdombecause of it.
So that kind of teaching, Ilove it.
It's deep and it's focused onJesus and I just felt like it
was a blessing to the wholecongregation here.
Things like that.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yeah, well, people often forget, like the Old
Testament is the book for theJewish faith, and that Jesus is
not, yes, at the start of a newchurch, but he's the fulfillment
of the Israelite people.
He's the fulfillment of theIsraelite people, he's the
fulfillment of the Jewish faith.
Christianity is the next stepof the Jewish faith for God's
eyes, for his vision, for thisfaith and people can separate
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those like oh, I'm just a NewTestament person, I don't touch
into the Old Testament much, but, like you said, it has much
depth.
It has so much meaning becauseit's the precursor to Jesus.
It's the Old Testament where ithas the depth.
It has so much meaning becauseit's it's the precursor to Jesus
.
It's the old Testament where ithas the old covenants, all
these things with so muchhistorical richness and value
that Jesus not only changes butbut fulfills.
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That he fulfills the promisesset in the, in the old Testament
, and that's why he taught fromthe old.
Testament oh exactly.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, he's 12 years old.
Can you imagine, if our Kidmankids stepped up and they're like
I will now recount to you thebook of Isaiah.
That's awesome.
You can keep doing that.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
All right.
So, as we wrap up today, whatare your final takeaways from
this message?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I'm going to have to come up with a really good poop
story because the other teachingteam pastors had the
opportunity and I don't know ifI can pass it up.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know howI'm going to do it, but You've
got some time I do.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
September.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
If you ever hear just a random poop story from Seth,
you'll know why.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I'm testing.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
I'm floating the idea .
You're floating what?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
There we go.
I'm glad that we're back tothis point of kindergarten humor
again, like we got real deepwith typology.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
We got to go full circle, Dude.
I'm working with middleschoolers.
This is my whole jam.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Poop.
Humor is half of it.
Oh, it's awesome yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I mean, I think for me it's just like that, it's
simple.
But God uses unexpected people,he uses unexpected things and
that's how he fulfills his, hisdream for us, his love for us.
Um, yeah, what?
What are you guys dealing within your life that has that that
you think has no meaning orisn't going to affect your life
(34:17):
beyond just a hard day?
But what would that look like?
To say God, how are we going touse this horrible moment for
your, your, your beauty, for,for your fulfillment, for your
grace, and in my life, to teachme something, to, to show me
something new and to to totransform me into who you, you
want me to be?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
I love that, the way that you put that, because that
shows that it's not to try tocall that bad thing a good thing
.
It's trying to say that Jesusis present and makes some
beautiful things despite somechaos and some nasty things.
And that's so much better thankind of that false view of what
Christianity sometimes pushes.
And that is false view of whatChristianity sometimes pushes
(35:01):
and that is well.
You know your child got hurtand here's why you know it's a
really good thing.
No, it was terrible and and Ithink that causes people not to
be able to actually grieve- Uhand, uh, it also puts this like
real fake view of whatChristianity is.
No, if something is grievingworthy, then you should grieve.
Uh, it was a gift that God hadgiven to you and somehow it got
broken or busted or gone now.
But what's beautiful about theway that you're describing that
(35:23):
is?
But Jesus is still there, Right?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
And how amazing is it that we serve a God that is
powerful enough to make thosehorrible, broken things into
something beautiful.
To turn these graves intogardens, the Brandon Lake song,
graves into Gardens just is likeincredible with that.
The graves into gardens, thebones into armies, all these
different things that he canturn these horribly broken
things into something beautiful.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
Is that Brandon Lake?
Or is that Elevation Worship?
I mean, he sings it.
I've heard him sing it before.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
I'm not sure.
Actually, I'm sure Elevationwrote it, but it's a great song.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Oh, it's amazing.
I think every church has, sinceit came out, sings that on
Easter.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
That's kind of fitting.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
I really liked the idea of how God can use each of
us, which is, you know, a lot ofus feel unworthy or we feel
broken or we feel less than, butGod can use any of us, and I
like the quote from Ben Franklinthat Greg used and it was hide,
not your talents, they weremade for use.
What's?
Speaker 3 (36:18):
a sundial in the shade and I really liked that
about it, doesn't?
Speaker 1 (36:21):
you may not think it's something special.
I'm sure Ahud didn't think hisleft-handedness was something
special at first, when he wasbeing shunned or having his hand
tied down potentially orsomething like that, but it was
special in the grand purpose ofwhat God was gonna do with it.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Yeah Well, and if you haven't listening, taken time
to figure out who you are andwhat you are, you got to know if
you're a sundial or not If youtry and tell the time.
If you're not a sundial, you'renot going to do much good.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
If you're a.
You might be an Apple watch,right?
If?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
you're an Apple watch .
You try and stand in the sun.
You're just going to not.
No one's gonna be able to seepurpose Right.
Yeah, and but doesn't King ofKings have a spiritual giftings
test?
Speaker 1 (36:59):
We do have a spiritual gifting test.
You can find it on the websiteor in the app.
Yeah, that's a great thing, andthe other thing that we have
talking about purpose coming upis we're starting a new thing
here at King of Kings calledpizza with purpose.
And our first one takes placeat the Millard and Northwest
campuses.
It's coming to Fremont soon,but at Millard and Northwest
it'll be on August 10th from1230 to 2.
(37:19):
You can register online Checkthat out in the app or on our
website too.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Find out more information and if anybody's
listening that has a heart forstudents, email me at Chad, at
kingofkingsorg.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
We'd love to see you guys jump in with students If
your spiritual gifting is poopjokes.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Email me immediately.
I need you guys on my team.
Email me immediately.
I need you guys on my team.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yes, alright well, thank you guys so much for being
here we will hear the lastmessage in this series next week
and until then, let's keepliving our faith beyond Sunday.
Thank you.
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