August 13, 2025 • 31 mins
In this Beyond Sunday episode, Dina, Peter, and Pastor Seth kick off the Game On series by connecting the story of King David with the unlikely heroism of Super Mario. They explore how God often chooses the overlooked for extraordinary purposes, reminding us that true greatness isn’t about talent or status, but about showing up with a heart ready for God’s call.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome to Beyond Sunday, the King of Kings
podcast, where we dive a littlebit deeper into our sermon
series and see what we're takingBeyond Sunday.
My name is Dena Newsome and Ihave some great fun guests today
.
I don't know, guys, does thatput the pressure on?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yes, yeah, here's what I've learned about Sethh,
flick and montana.
This is peter bay of kim king'snorthwest.
By the way, in my short timeworking with seth is if, if you
say like, hey, it's gonna be agood day, he freezes like.
I've seen him just stand in onespot for like four or five
minutes at a time not speakingat all.
Yeah, he doesn't even move.
It's like I don't know if he'srebooting or what's going on.
(00:43):
Have you ever seen the scared?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
goats, or like you scare the goat and they just tip
over.
That's me in most socialcircumstances.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, I've noticed that He'll make the goat sound,
and then just tips.
Oh yeah, check it out.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So like you do this thing right here and you go eh,
that's a with goat sound.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Alright and goat impersonations.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
It's a lot of goat boy from Saturday Night Live
from back in the day, that'sgood stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Chris Catan right.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I think it was Jim Brewer.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Chris Catan was themonkey boy.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I don't remember what he was called.
There was a lot of animal boysat the time.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I like that this is where we're going with our
podcast conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
All right.
So getting a little bit more ontrack, this week we started a
new sermon series called Game On, where we are looking at some
biblical truths through fouriconic video games.
So my question to open us uptoday is what video game from
your childhood were you justkiller at which one did you love
to play?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
All right, so old school stuff.
Super Mario Brothers 1, I knewwhere all the level ups were,
and my other one was Contra,because there's this like famous
code that almost anybody whogames knows and that is for
those who listen up, up downdown, left right, left right, b,
a, b, a, select start if you'redoing two players, but that's
like deep cut stuff.
But anybody who knows konamigames.
(02:08):
It's the same code like unlockcode for all of them.
Uh, but my favorite I thinkthat I was really proficient at,
was golden eye from james bond.
With the n64 I would pick oddjob and he would throw his hat
and like take people out.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It was like the og fortnight wow yeah, so growing
up, my parents were strictlyagainst video games.
The only time we were allowedwas that we would rent an entire
system on our birthday.
Wow, go over to debbie's soit's sinful except on, or
unacceptable, at least except on, a birthday right, and then you
could play video games for 48straight hours until the
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basement just smelled like onesweaty Cheeto, and then it would
go back to Debbie's video andwe wouldn't touch another game
until my brother's birthday.
So this is like the Mardi Grasof video games for you, oh for
sure, and so we're terrible atevery video game ever created,
but the ones we enjoy the mostwere Tecmo, super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Ooh, yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Not Tecmo Bowl, tecmo Super Bowl Super.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Bowl.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Ken Griffey Jr Baseball Mm-hmm.
And then, yeah, I thinkGoldeneye was a big part of our,
because you're a little olderthan me, but not much.
It was a big part of ourchildhood.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
It's huge.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah.
So if you haven't checked outGoldeneye, you will not be
impressed when you look at itnow, but for us it was as good
as it gets.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Oh yeah, I dusted it off for the kids and I was like
this is the best game you'llever play.
This is the first four-playergame outside of Nintendo track
and field.
It's going to blow your mind.
And I turned it on and theyjust kind of walked away.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It was a step up from Wolfenstein, but that's about
it.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
What console would you rent for your birthday?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Was it an.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Atari.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
No, I'm not that old, it was Super Nintendo.
Thanks, I'm not that old, yeah,when I started, it was Nintendo
, and then we got up to SuperNintendo, but by the time N64
was out, we were no longerrenting systems.
You were owning.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
No.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I've never owned a system in my life.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Still not to this day .
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Well, we do have this thing called a Nex, and there's
no controllers, it just does awhole thing off body movement,
that's actually kind of cool, itis really cool, and so you can
do home run, derby and tennisand driving and whatever, no
controllers whatsoever.
You must save so much money onbatteries, oh my goodness.
Yes, yes, although all thememories money we save on
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batteries it goes towards likethe rc cars.
It burns through a battery inlike 12 minutes, so yeah, so I'm
a wee bit older than you, gentswait.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Um, that was, and are you saying that we?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
yeah, and when I grew up, the game system that we had
was the Intellivision, whichwas like the first competitor to
the Atari, which was theoriginal OG game console, and my
dad would not buy an Ataribecause he got a deal on an
Intellivision and he was anaccountant and very cheap,
(05:01):
frugal, yeah, frugal, veryfrugal.
But on the Intellivision I wasa master at Qbert.
That was my game, qbert.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I've seen Qbert on Wreck-It Ralph Yep.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Qbert was my favorite game and half of it was I liked
.
It was simple you just had tohop on the cubes and turn them
the right color, but there wassomething very appealing about
the sound that Q-Bert make, theblurp that it would make when
you hopped on the cubes.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
And I loved it.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
My older brothers did not like Q-Bert, but I enjoyed
it.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Was he the hopper?
Yeah, so he did the hopping.
He's a good guy.
Yeah, he looked like a good guy.
Yeah, he was.
He looked like a buddy.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
He looked like someone that would blurb.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, he's a blurber, for sure, but in the best way.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yes, but with my kids .
When we got video games, whenmy kids got older, Super Smash
Brothers was the one that Icould hold my own on that.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I just randomly move things around and hit the
buttons.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Button mashing is the way to do it, but I can hold my
own.
We're going to hear about thatone.
I know In a couple weeks, andthat'll be the first time I've
ever even seen an image of thatgame.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Oh yeah, we might need to bring that here and play
.
I think you would be fun toplay Super Smash Brothers with.
Yeah or I could be like theannouncer.
Well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
There's a pause there .
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I just think I would enjoy your excitement at trying
to figure out the chaos.
It's a little bit chaotic and Ithink that's an environment you
thrive in there you go thePeter Bay story.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That's a ringing endorsement, figuring out the
chaos.
That should be the subtitle ofyour movie.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
There you go.
Not a book, just a movie.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, that's right Straight to film.
You couldn't read Straight tostreaming.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You couldn't read Straight to streaming.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It would be inauthentic for it to be a book.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
All right.
So in our message series,Pastor Zach Zender is leading
this and he opened up this weekwith Super Mario Brothers, which
is a game that I honestly like.
I know Mario and the story ofMario, but I have never really
intently played Super Mario, sosome of the game aspect was like
I know the idea of thepower-ups and stuff, but it was
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a little bit foreign to me.
But it's a very popularlong-running mini offshoot games
from Super Mario Brothers and,like when he opened us up, this
was a really great message tostart with.
What are you guys taking beyondSunday from this opening game
on message?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That hours and hours of my childhood were not wasted
because I got all of thereferences, at least.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, similar to reading.
I've probably only played thatgame a handful of times.
I did see the movie but yeah,the way that he tied in just how
normal person Mario is and I'venot played the game, but I
totally know who Mario is andconnecting it to David of the
Bible, yeah, it was a brillianttie-in and actually because when
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I think of David I think of theheroics and then the terrible
sins and man after God's ownheart.
I rarely remember he was just adude watching sheep and not
even brought out when Samuelasked for all the sons to come.
So it was.
It's cool to think of David inthat way.
And then it's humbling formyself too, like as I think my
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tendency, and probably atendency of a lot of people, is
to think down on myself.
So God's got a plan for me,whether I feel great about it or
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, I really liked the tie-in between Mario just
being normal and David justbeing a boy and us feeling like
we don't have anything amazingto offer.
That connection was what reallyspoke to me about this one.
So one of the phrases thatPastor Zach said at the start
was kind of God selects who theworld rejects.
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The story that he—the Bibleevent that he was talking about
was from 1 Samuel 16, and it'sthe anointing of David.
So I don't know if one of youwant to kind of summarize kind
of what happens in that littlestory when Samuel goes to find
the next king.
But then Zach talked about howGod selects who the world
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rejects.
And how did that hit you guys?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, let me describe , describe it and then Seth you
correct it.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
This is a fun game.
You'll be great.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And so there's this prophet.
His name is Sammy.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
No, I'm just kidding.
No, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I like it, samuel, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
And God's like you're going to find the dude, the
next king dude, and it's goingto be over at this guy's house.
And who was his name?
The guy.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Jesse.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
And so then he goes over to Jesse's house and he's
like bring out your sons, nothis daughter, cause that'd be
Jesse's girl and that would be atotally different reference
whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Brilliant stuff right here.
And so then all these bros comeout and Samuel was like, oh,
not this guy, not this guy.
And and Jesse's like well, thisguy looks real good.
Nope, not him either.
And he keeps going and going.
They're all nose.
And then Sam stops and he'slike what's going on?
I was told I'm going to anointsomebody here.
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Where is he?
You missing one?
Like what, what happened?
And then Jesse's like well, yougot to check by the sheet.
And then he's like well, yougot to check by the sheet.
And then he's like no, we'restaying right here, don't sit
down.
I don't, you're not sitting,nobody's sitting down, no, water
breaks.
So then David comes, like Ipicture David walking.
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He's like and then he comes up,and then Sam's like whoa,
that's the guy.
And then he gets anointed.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, actually, that's really on point, nice
yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So how do you see this idea of David being the
eighth one, you know, the onethat Jesse wasn't even going to
bring out, and Mario being justa normal plumber?
How do you see this play out inyour life or in our culture,
where God selects who the worldrejects?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Okay.
So one thing that I think goesbeyond Sunday here is God had
been preparing David in thefield and preparing his
character in the field before hewas even selected.
So I mean one of the stories weknow about David when he was in
the field, before he was evenselected.
So I mean one of the stories weknow about David when he was in
the field is that he hadalready protected the entire
flock from the attack of a bearand he was able to, with the
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hand of the Lord, go againstthat bear, take him out, and
then a lion.
So it's like, in each one ofthese things he's been tested in
his character, tested in hisresolve out in the field.
So we may not have seen what wasgoing on with David.
Jesse may not have seen whatwas going on with David.
Samuel certainly didn't seewhat was going on with David,
but God did, and he was craftingDavid's story to get him to
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that point.
So it looked like obscurity,but actually that's only from
our perspective, it's not fromGod's perspective, and I think
that's what we can take fromthat is that there's a lot of
obscurity that we think that weenter into being just normal
Mario people.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And that's not really the case.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
God's preparing us for something incredible.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I really liked just the continued idea of David was
just there.
Like you said, he was alreadybeing prepared.
This wasn't something he wasasking for, but he was the one.
Samuel was not even there, forthe double portion Eliab that's
my favorite phrase of the day isdouble portion, and I just want
Zach to walk around and say itwith his arms like this the
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whole time Double portion.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Like he's beefy.
Yeah, double portion.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
That's going to be the phrase I now try to work
into conversation.
I love it, but he looked likewhat Samuel was imagining a king
was going to look like, butthat's not who God had selected.
So Pastor Zach kind of moved onand talked about sometimes your
mission starts well beforeothers can see you.
Can you speak to a time thatmaybe you've seen this?
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Either a—words are hard today.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Words are hard.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Another biblical reference or something in the
world that you've experienced?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, being a teacher and then working in kids
ministry for many years and,dina, you came from kids
ministry as well.
I think we got to witness it,even when we didn't know we were
witnessing it with these kidswho, some of them, are really
attentive and they want toplease you, and some of them
it's like, well, what are youdoing today?
And, regardless of theirtemperament, what God does with
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them as they grow up, and thekid who just always looks like
they're messing around, and nowthey're leading a church it's an
incredible thing to see how Godhas fashioned and honoring that
.
We get to be a part of it tosome degree, more so for their
parents and grandparents, whohave done that work and that
reminder of, regardless of ourtemperament, regardless of how
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goofy we are, regardless of howwell you think that kid is
listening, god is crafting andworking on that kid in that
moment.
So I got to see that inteaching and kids ministry.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
And I would agree, having worked in a church, with
a school and having had beenthere for a really long time.
It was amazing to see young menwho I knew when they started in
high school and then getting achance to do premarital
counseling with them and to seethem get married and have their
child baptized and become likefull on contributing members.
Deep disciples of Jesus isgreat Biblically, though.
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I mean.
We can even look at a characterlike Ruth, who you know a lot
of bad things were happening inher life.
She lost her husband, she losther brother-in-law, she lost her
father-in-law and was basicallyjust going to wander around
with Naomi.
But then, you know, as she wasbeing prepared, she went to go
glean in the fields.
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Happened to be Boaz's field andGod was cultivating that
relationship the whole time.
Boaz, and then eventually, ruth, because of the
Kinsman-Redeemer relationship,came together who then had Obed
who then?
Had Jesse who then?
Had David, and so it's kind ofneat to see the way that God had
crafted.
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Ruth and her character told thatstory in relative obscurity for
us to know about, but now she'sa part of Jesus's genealogy and
David is in there and Jesus isin there.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Because of that, yeah , the Bible is riddled with
people who didn't think thatthey were the right person.
I mean all of the disciples.
You have Moses, like I can'ttalk to him over and, over and
over again.
It's it's god saying no, Ichose you I love that.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Do you want to know what the hebrew actually is
there?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
what is?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
when he rejects the, when he rejects god, he's like
my tongue's too fat, isn't thatawesome?
Like hey, I got a message foryou.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I'm sorry, my tongue's too fat that is awesome
, like he got stung by a beeright on the tongue the bee of
the spirit that would be.
That would be tough, though, ifyou had a real fat tongue
that's how I would sound yeah,that's yeah, but over and over
and over again.
People who do not feelqualified, and that reminder
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that that god um doesn't callthe qualified people.
He qualifies each of us aswe're called, into his mission
field.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, I really, like Pastor Zach said, the world may
overlook you, but God sees you,no matter where you are.
And I think of for years, 10years running I went and did
mission work in Hong Kong everysummer and did VBS and I never
knew who our team was going tobe.
We would take youth from ourteam, like high schoolers and
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sometimes college kids from ourchurch and from other area
churches, and I never knew whoour team was going to be.
But I always knew, once we cametogether, god had been working
in them and how they were goingto be the right part of our team
or just what we needed when wegot to Hong Kong and then how
they were going to be the rightpart of our team, or just what
we needed when we got to HongKong and then how they were
going to influence the kids thatwe got to share the gospel with
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over there.
That it was always the rightperson for the job, even when I
would be like, oh, come on, thiskid.
Like, really, this kid doesn'tknow how to speak, he didn't
have a fat tongue, but he neversays more than two words at a
time.
And we'd get to Hong Kong andit was a totally different
ballgame.
He was speaking very eloquently, or people who were really shy
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were really outgoing, or weneeded those shy people to
relate to some of the kids, andit was just always how God put
that all together, just what weneeded, okay.
So Zach talked about four pointsrelating to our mission.
So, talking about mission, andI just want to know kind of how
you relate to these four points.
So, number one your mission maystart in obscurity, which we
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kind of touched base on.
Number two your mission is lessabout your highlights and more
about your heart.
Three, your mission is fueledby his spirit.
And four, your mission startswhere you are, not when you're
ready, but when you show up.
And, like I said, one of thosethat really spoke to you, or how
do you relate to thoseregarding your life mission?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, interestingly, I think most times in my life I
would have answers for all ofthese, except for point three,
and right now I feel like pointthree is where God is impressing
a lot right now, in that movingin the spirit, and part of that
is because I truly believe thatthe fruit of the spirit is
foreign to this world.
And so when people see someonewho is suffering with cancer and
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they're joyful, they can'tunderstand it.
Or they see someone who haspeace in a horrendously tough
situation, how can this even bewhere they see kids who have joy
, um, who live in a third worldcountry, and and so I, the fruit
of the spirit, living with thatum, not because, like I'm
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trying really hard to do that,but because god gives it to his
kids and then we work to grow it.
I think that's been a big onefor me is to know the Holy
Spirit dwells in me and hasgiven me his fruit and it
matters.
And for the people outside itdoes make an impact because
they're seeing God and his lovethrough the way I get to live.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I'd say I would put number one and number four
together that there's a startingin obscurity and you're still
called to show up, and I thinkthere's way too many people that
they start in obscurity andthen they self-select to stay
there because they're too,intimidated.
They think that there's no waythat they could be used for
something important or engagingor valuable.
And so, rather than coming outof the pasture to the calling,
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they just kind of stick aroundand they would rather dwell in
obscurity than serve the Lord,because it's scary and it takes
a lot of courage.
David could have just stayedout there with the sheep and
nobody would have batted in aneye, because that was his job.
It was comfortable for him, heknew what to expect.
It might have been dirty, buthe knew exactly what to expect
day to day.
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But instead he responded to thecall to come and submit himself
to Samuel, and Samuel then wasable to meet that with a grander
calling than what he had everexperienced before.
And I just wonder how manypeople within our church, how
many people listening to thispodcast, are being called to
something greater.
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But right now they've said nobecause they're afraid, and I
guess I would just want toencourage that anybody that is
listening to this right now.
You know you're called to dosomething.
Somebody needs to hear this.
I don't know who it is.
Stop saying no and startshowing up.
Show up first with your heart,allow that to be cleansed by the
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Lord, to take away all of thatfear, and then show up and just
wait and see what he's going todo.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It could be scary.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It will be scary, but it's going to be worth it, and
it was worth it for David.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, when he talked about all you need to do is show
up, that's the one that reallyspoke to me.
There's a I'm a sports moviefanatic, like I really enjoy
sports movies, and there's areally bad movie from I don't
know early two thousands aboutum, it's called hardball and
it's Keanu Reeves and he's likea gambling addict and gets roped
into coaching this and it'sbased on a true story.
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That's why it stuck out to me.
But he gets roped into coachingthis baseball team from the
projects and one of the thingsthat he says to them at the end
of the movie is thank you forshowing up.
I'm blown away by your abilityto show up.
And that line always stuck withme because it didn't matter if
they were, you know, winning thegames or playing their best
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effort.
They were facing hardshipsoutside of the field and they
were still showing up for theteam.
And that's what I thought ofwhen Zach started talking about
showing up.
I was like God is blown away byour ability to just show up and
let Him use us, but we justhave to be willing to let Him
direct us.
From that and that reallyjumped out at me.
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Okay, so when Pastor Zach waskind of wrapping up his message,
he did a little take on somenumbers in the Bible.
So I wrote it down so I couldmake sure and get it right.
So I'm going to read it.
And then I just want to know,like, what do you guys have to
say about this, or what extra doyou know about it, or anything
In the Bible.
Number six is for man, for sin,and all of us have a story of
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six In the Bible.
The number seven is forcompletion, or perfection, and
all of us have been madecomplete by the perfect,
complete grace of Jesus ChristIn the Bible.
The number eight is newbeginnings.
What if the phrase I am numbereight is a beautiful thing
Because your story is not over?
If you've had six chapters ofsin and then been redeemed in
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seven, your chapter eight is notover.
Your story is not done.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
How does that speak to you guys?
Well, a lot of that tie intothe numbers when it comes to
like theology actually has to goback also to the days of
creation and then fall andredemption, and so there are six
literal days of creation.
God rested on the seventh dayand then after that rest is
where we jacked it up, and it'safter that that Christ brings
the new day, based off of hisresurrection, and so that's one
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of the reasons why we celebrateSunday as you know, not only
Easter, because it happenedthree days after there was
crucifixion on a Friday, butbecause that would be like an
eighth day recreation, but evenlike an old school architecture.
when you go into an older church, like a Catholic church or an
older Lutheran church, you goand you look at the font and the
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majority of baptismal fonts arecreated as eight sides on the
outside of it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Have you seen that before, where it's like an
octagon?
Yes, but I've never thoughtabout it that way.
You should see Peter and I'sface right now.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
We're both like blown away by this knowledge, if you
look at older baptismal fonts,they usually have eight sides,
and that's because this is anold theology, a good theology
about being recreated due tobaptism, and I just think
because he had talked about thatas well and we had just had
baptism.
Sunday here, not too long agoso there have been many people
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that had their opportunity in afont of sorts or cistern, or
whatever it is that we can callit, but either way it's baptism
and it's connecting to therecreation that we get to
experience in Jesus.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Wow, yeah, I am a new creation because of Christ.
Yeah, I am a new creationbecause of Christ and my
incredible achievements don'tdefine me and my incredible
disappointments don't disqualifyme.
Because of Christ I'm a newcreation.
So that whole explanation ofthe eight side, I have noticed
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that with baptismals I had noidea why I never knew that.
With baptismals I had no ideawhy I never knew that connection
.
So that's a powerful picture.
So next time I'm in an oldschool church and I see that
baptismal that's a beautiful.
I am number eight.
Like here you go, here you goagain.
I think an interesting thingwith our walk as Christiansians
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is, unlike a book, we kind ofcycle back at times and we live
back in the earlier chapters and, um, like we've forgotten what
happened in chapter seven, whenchrist died for us and paid for
the price, and we don't livelike chapter eight and onward
christians.
So that that's a, that's partof that picture, that that
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redemption, like I, I can messup, I can blow it, but the
forgiveness doesn't go away likewhat christ did, even if I'm
living like a one through six,um, christian.
Do you know what that just mademe think, oh, all right, what
do you got, because I'm sayinglike, just like mediocre stuff,
and then he's making this stuffgreat.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
No, no, you're talking about like one through
six, one through seven.
But what about Acts 1.8, whichis what we're called now to
bring the gospel to Jerusalem,judea, samaria and to the ends
of the earth?
And so now, not only are we theones who are redeemed, and in
our number eight kind of, youknow, like identity, but in our
acts one, eight, calling, we'renow called out of obscurity and
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into service for the Lord, andwe've got a very specific target
, that's sweet yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
It's about knowing your mission.
That was kind of the theme forthis one this week's thing.
So what are your finaltakeaways from this message
about Super Mario in our Game Onseries?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, I mean I'm excited for the other three
games, none of which that I'veplayed hardly at all.
But I love the imagery and thefun of games and then connecting
it to God's word in a powerfulway.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I love looking into the breadth of David and his
character, because there is somuch to his experience that
every regular Mario type person,mustachioed or not, uh, could
connect to.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Because there is early David who is?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
impetuous and just does what he's called to do.
There's the David who's amusician, who sits in the court
of Saul after he's anointed tobe the next king.
He's still called to serve thecurrent king.
There's the David who actscrazy with the Philistines and
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hangs out with his enemies for areally long time.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
There's the.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
David who actually becomes the king.
There's the David who mournsthe death of a child.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
The character of David is incredibly complex, and
so I'll give a shout out nowfor those who would love to see
a little bit more behind thescenes on this, If you haven't
seen House of David yet it is anexcellent program.
It does a very good job of atleast telling the biblical story
of David's life.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Season one is out on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I don't work for Amazon, I don't get sponsorships
or anything, but the eightepisodes that they do have
really help bring this story tolife.
And yes, they add artisticflair in this.
But the whole point is not tomake it the Bible.
The whole point is to show youthis TV show, introduce you to a
character and then make you saywait.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Is that in the Bible?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
And then you go back and you read the actual word of
God that's living and active,and we have number eight stories
because of the Jesus, of theBible, so I would definitely
suggest people go take a look atHouse of David too.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, I'm excited just looking into more of the
story of David, because I feellike most of the time when we
talk about David, we talk aboutone window of his life and
that's the story that peopleremember.
That resonates them and theydon't ever look at the whole
piece together.
So that's an exciting piece ofthis for me.
What really stuck with me, thefinal takeaway for me, was when
Zach said the world crownstalent and God crowns character,
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and that kind of tied it alltogether for me, because here's
David, who has this incredibleheart and becomes a hero because
of it quote, unquote hero andMario, who has an incredible
heart, who chooses to do theright thing and save people and
help people even when it's hard,and becomes a hero.
And how we can be the hero inour own story when we discover
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our mission and let God workwithin that.
But it comes with God crowningour character and having the
right heart and having the rightcharacter with it, and that
spoke a lot to me.
So I would be remiss if I didn'tmention that we are giving away
a few Nintendo Switch 2consoles, if you're listening
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and you would like to invite afriend to come and join you to
experience this message series.
You can go to our website,kingofkingsorg, slash game on
and you can invite a friendthrough the website and you'll
be entered to win one of theconsoles that we'll be giving
away at the end of the month.
We're going to give away one ateach campus.
It'll be an exciting time.
So next week we'll dive intoweek two of this message.
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So, peter, I just feel like youalways close us out now, when
you're here.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
So what would you like to do for this one?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, we're going to do a Barry White closeout, so if
anyone wants to add to it, theycan.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Anyone at all.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, if anyone in this room wants to add to that,
they can.
So here we go.
Hey there, you heard thatmessage on Sunday, I know you
did.
You heard about God's love foryou.
Are you a little David?
Are you?
Are you number 8?
Well, if so, sunday's done,monday's, here, go get it baby
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live life like Monday afterSunday I'm done nothing better
is going to come after thatcrushed it.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Live life like Monday After Sunday.
Wait, yeah, I'm done.
There's nothing better that'sgoing to come after that Crushed
it.
Welcome to Beyond Sunday, the King of Kings
podcast, where we dive a littlebit deeper into our sermon
series and see what we're takingBeyond Sunday.
My name is Dena Newsome and Ihave some great fun guests today
.
I don't know, guys, does thatput the pressure on?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yes, yeah, here's what I've learned about Sethh,
flick and montana.
This is peter bay of kim king'snorthwest.
By the way, in my short timeworking with seth is if, if you
say like, hey, it's gonna be agood day, he freezes like.
I've seen him just stand in onespot for like four or five
minutes at a time not speakingat all.
Yeah, he doesn't even move.
It's like I don't know if he'srebooting or what's going on.
(00:43):
Have you ever seen the scared?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
goats, or like you scare the goat and they just tip
over.
That's me in most socialcircumstances.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, I've noticed that He'll make the goat sound,
and then just tips.
Oh yeah, check it out.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
So like you do this thing right here and you go eh,
that's a with goat sound.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Alright and goat impersonations.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
It's a lot of goat boy from Saturday Night Live
from back in the day, that'sgood stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Chris Catan right.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I think it was Jim Brewer.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Chris Catan was themonkey boy.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I don't remember what he was called.
There was a lot of animal boysat the time.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I like that this is where we're going with our
podcast conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
All right.
So getting a little bit more ontrack, this week we started a
new sermon series called Game On, where we are looking at some
biblical truths through fouriconic video games.
So my question to open us uptoday is what video game from
your childhood were you justkiller at which one did you love
to play?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
All right, so old school stuff.
Super Mario Brothers 1, I knewwhere all the level ups were,
and my other one was Contra,because there's this like famous
code that almost anybody whogames knows and that is for
those who listen up, up downdown, left right, left right, b,
a, b, a, select start if you'redoing two players, but that's
like deep cut stuff.
But anybody who knows konamigames.
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It's the same code like unlockcode for all of them.
Uh, but my favorite I thinkthat I was really proficient at,
was golden eye from james bond.
With the n64 I would pick oddjob and he would throw his hat
and like take people out.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It was like the og fortnight wow yeah, so growing
up, my parents were strictlyagainst video games.
The only time we were allowedwas that we would rent an entire
system on our birthday.
Wow, go over to debbie's soit's sinful except on, or
unacceptable, at least except on, a birthday right, and then you
could play video games for 48straight hours until the
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basement just smelled like onesweaty Cheeto, and then it would
go back to Debbie's video andwe wouldn't touch another game
until my brother's birthday.
So this is like the Mardi Grasof video games for you, oh for
sure, and so we're terrible atevery video game ever created,
but the ones we enjoy the mostwere Tecmo, super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Ooh, yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Not Tecmo Bowl, tecmo Super Bowl Super.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Bowl.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Ken Griffey Jr Baseball Mm-hmm.
And then, yeah, I thinkGoldeneye was a big part of our,
because you're a little olderthan me, but not much.
It was a big part of ourchildhood.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
It's huge.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah.
So if you haven't checked outGoldeneye, you will not be
impressed when you look at itnow, but for us it was as good
as it gets.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Oh yeah, I dusted it off for the kids and I was like
this is the best game you'llever play.
This is the first four-playergame outside of Nintendo track
and field.
It's going to blow your mind.
And I turned it on and theyjust kind of walked away.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
It was a step up from Wolfenstein, but that's about
it.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
What console would you rent for your birthday?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Was it an.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Atari.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
No, I'm not that old, it was Super Nintendo.
Thanks, I'm not that old, yeah,when I started, it was Nintendo
, and then we got up to SuperNintendo, but by the time N64
was out, we were no longerrenting systems.
You were owning.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
No.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I've never owned a system in my life.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Still not to this day .
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Well, we do have this thing called a Nex, and there's
no controllers, it just does awhole thing off body movement,
that's actually kind of cool, itis really cool, and so you can
do home run, derby and tennisand driving and whatever, no
controllers whatsoever.
You must save so much money onbatteries, oh my goodness.
Yes, yes, although all thememories money we save on
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batteries it goes towards likethe rc cars.
It burns through a battery inlike 12 minutes, so yeah, so I'm
a wee bit older than you, gentswait.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Um, that was, and are you saying that we?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
yeah, and when I grew up, the game system that we had
was the Intellivision, whichwas like the first competitor to
the Atari, which was theoriginal OG game console, and my
dad would not buy an Ataribecause he got a deal on an
Intellivision and he was anaccountant and very cheap,
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frugal, yeah, frugal, veryfrugal.
But on the Intellivision I wasa master at Qbert.
That was my game, qbert.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I've seen Qbert on Wreck-It Ralph Yep.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Qbert was my favorite game and half of it was I liked
.
It was simple you just had tohop on the cubes and turn them
the right color, but there wassomething very appealing about
the sound that Q-Bert make, theblurp that it would make when
you hopped on the cubes.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
And I loved it.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
My older brothers did not like Q-Bert, but I enjoyed
it.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Was he the hopper?
Yeah, so he did the hopping.
He's a good guy.
Yeah, he looked like a good guy.
Yeah, he was.
He looked like a buddy.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
He looked like someone that would blurb.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah, he's a blurber, for sure, but in the best way.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yes, but with my kids .
When we got video games, whenmy kids got older, Super Smash
Brothers was the one that Icould hold my own on that.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I just randomly move things around and hit the
buttons.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Button mashing is the way to do it, but I can hold my
own.
We're going to hear about thatone.
I know In a couple weeks, andthat'll be the first time I've
ever even seen an image of thatgame.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Oh yeah, we might need to bring that here and play
.
I think you would be fun toplay Super Smash Brothers with.
Yeah or I could be like theannouncer.
Well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
There's a pause there .
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I just think I would enjoy your excitement at trying
to figure out the chaos.
It's a little bit chaotic and Ithink that's an environment you
thrive in there you go thePeter Bay story.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That's a ringing endorsement, figuring out the
chaos.
That should be the subtitle ofyour movie.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
There you go.
Not a book, just a movie.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, that's right Straight to film.
You couldn't read Straight tostreaming.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
You couldn't read Straight to streaming.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
It would be inauthentic for it to be a book.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
All right.
So in our message series,Pastor Zach Zender is leading
this and he opened up this weekwith Super Mario Brothers, which
is a game that I honestly like.
I know Mario and the story ofMario, but I have never really
intently played Super Mario, sosome of the game aspect was like
I know the idea of thepower-ups and stuff, but it was
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a little bit foreign to me.
But it's a very popularlong-running mini offshoot games
from Super Mario Brothers and,like when he opened us up, this
was a really great message tostart with.
What are you guys taking beyondSunday from this opening game
on message?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That hours and hours of my childhood were not wasted
because I got all of thereferences, at least.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, similar to reading.
I've probably only played thatgame a handful of times.
I did see the movie but yeah,the way that he tied in just how
normal person Mario is and I'venot played the game, but I
totally know who Mario is andconnecting it to David of the
Bible, yeah, it was a brillianttie-in and actually because when
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I think of David I think of theheroics and then the terrible
sins and man after God's ownheart.
I rarely remember he was just adude watching sheep and not
even brought out when Samuelasked for all the sons to come.
So it was.
It's cool to think of David inthat way.
And then it's humbling formyself too, like as I think my
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tendency, and probably atendency of a lot of people, is
to think down on myself.
So God's got a plan for me,whether I feel great about it or
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, I really liked the tie-in between Mario just
being normal and David justbeing a boy and us feeling like
we don't have anything amazingto offer.
That connection was what reallyspoke to me about this one.
So one of the phrases thatPastor Zach said at the start
was kind of God selects who theworld rejects.
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The story that he—the Bibleevent that he was talking about
was from 1 Samuel 16, and it'sthe anointing of David.
So I don't know if one of youwant to kind of summarize kind
of what happens in that littlestory when Samuel goes to find
the next king.
But then Zach talked about howGod selects who the world
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rejects.
And how did that hit you guys?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Yeah, let me describe , describe it and then Seth you
correct it.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
This is a fun game.
You'll be great.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
And so there's this prophet.
His name is Sammy.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
No, I'm just kidding.
No, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
I like it, samuel, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
And God's like you're going to find the dude, the
next king dude, and it's goingto be over at this guy's house.
And who was his name?
The guy.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Jesse.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
And so then he goes over to Jesse's house and he's
like bring out your sons, nothis daughter, cause that'd be
Jesse's girl and that would be atotally different reference
whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Brilliant stuff right here.
And so then all these bros comeout and Samuel was like, oh,
not this guy, not this guy.
And and Jesse's like well, thisguy looks real good.
Nope, not him either.
And he keeps going and going.
They're all nose.
And then Sam stops and he'slike what's going on?
I was told I'm going to anointsomebody here.
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Where is he?
You missing one?
Like what, what happened?
And then Jesse's like well, yougot to check by the sheet.
And then he's like well, yougot to check by the sheet.
And then he's like no, we'restaying right here, don't sit
down.
I don't, you're not sitting,nobody's sitting down, no, water
breaks.
So then David comes, like Ipicture David walking.
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He's like and then he comes up,and then Sam's like whoa,
that's the guy.
And then he gets anointed.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, actually, that's really on point, nice
yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So how do you see this idea of David being the
eighth one, you know, the onethat Jesse wasn't even going to
bring out, and Mario being justa normal plumber?
How do you see this play out inyour life or in our culture,
where God selects who the worldrejects?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Okay.
So one thing that I think goesbeyond Sunday here is God had
been preparing David in thefield and preparing his
character in the field before hewas even selected.
So I mean one of the stories weknow about David when he was in
the field, before he was evenselected.
So I mean one of the stories weknow about David when he was in
the field is that he hadalready protected the entire
flock from the attack of a bearand he was able to, with the
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hand of the Lord, go againstthat bear, take him out, and
then a lion.
So it's like, in each one ofthese things he's been tested in
his character, tested in hisresolve out in the field.
So we may not have seen what wasgoing on with David.
Jesse may not have seen whatwas going on with David.
Samuel certainly didn't seewhat was going on with David,
but God did, and he was craftingDavid's story to get him to
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that point.
So it looked like obscurity,but actually that's only from
our perspective, it's not fromGod's perspective, and I think
that's what we can take fromthat is that there's a lot of
obscurity that we think that weenter into being just normal
Mario people.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And that's not really the case.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
God's preparing us for something incredible.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I really liked just the continued idea of David was
just there.
Like you said, he was alreadybeing prepared.
This wasn't something he wasasking for, but he was the one.
Samuel was not even there, forthe double portion Eliab that's
my favorite phrase of the day isdouble portion, and I just want
Zach to walk around and say itwith his arms like this the
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whole time Double portion.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Like he's beefy.
Yeah, double portion.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
That's going to be the phrase I now try to work
into conversation.
I love it, but he looked likewhat Samuel was imagining a king
was going to look like, butthat's not who God had selected.
So Pastor Zach kind of moved onand talked about sometimes your
mission starts well beforeothers can see you.
Can you speak to a time thatmaybe you've seen this?
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Either a—words are hard today.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Words are hard.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
Another biblical reference or something in the
world that you've experienced?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, being a teacher and then working in kids
ministry for many years and,dina, you came from kids
ministry as well.
I think we got to witness it,even when we didn't know we were
witnessing it with these kidswho, some of them, are really
attentive and they want toplease you, and some of them
it's like, well, what are youdoing today?
And, regardless of theirtemperament, what God does with
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them as they grow up, and thekid who just always looks like
they're messing around, and nowthey're leading a church it's an
incredible thing to see how Godhas fashioned and honoring that
.
We get to be a part of it tosome degree, more so for their
parents and grandparents, whohave done that work and that
reminder of, regardless of ourtemperament, regardless of how
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goofy we are, regardless of howwell you think that kid is
listening, god is crafting andworking on that kid in that
moment.
So I got to see that inteaching and kids ministry.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
And I would agree, having worked in a church, with
a school and having had beenthere for a really long time.
It was amazing to see young menwho I knew when they started in
high school and then getting achance to do premarital
counseling with them and to seethem get married and have their
child baptized and become likefull on contributing members.
Deep disciples of Jesus isgreat Biblically, though.
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I mean.
We can even look at a characterlike Ruth, who you know a lot
of bad things were happening inher life.
She lost her husband, she losther brother-in-law, she lost her
father-in-law and was basicallyjust going to wander around
with Naomi.
But then, you know, as she wasbeing prepared, she went to go
glean in the fields.
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Happened to be Boaz's field andGod was cultivating that
relationship the whole time.
Boaz, and then eventually, ruth, because of the
Kinsman-Redeemer relationship,came together who then had Obed
who then?
Had Jesse who then?
Had David, and so it's kind ofneat to see the way that God had
crafted.
(15:18):
Ruth and her character told thatstory in relative obscurity for
us to know about, but now she'sa part of Jesus's genealogy and
David is in there and Jesus isin there.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Because of that, yeah , the Bible is riddled with
people who didn't think thatthey were the right person.
I mean all of the disciples.
You have Moses, like I can'ttalk to him over and, over and
over again.
It's it's god saying no, Ichose you I love that.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Do you want to know what the hebrew actually is
there?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
what is?
Speaker 3 (15:44):
when he rejects the, when he rejects god, he's like
my tongue's too fat, isn't thatawesome?
Like hey, I got a message foryou.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I'm sorry, my tongue's too fat that is awesome
, like he got stung by a beeright on the tongue the bee of
the spirit that would be.
That would be tough, though, ifyou had a real fat tongue
that's how I would sound yeah,that's yeah, but over and over
and over again.
People who do not feelqualified, and that reminder
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that that god um doesn't callthe qualified people.
He qualifies each of us aswe're called, into his mission
field.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, I really, like Pastor Zach said, the world may
overlook you, but God sees you,no matter where you are.
And I think of for years, 10years running I went and did
mission work in Hong Kong everysummer and did VBS and I never
knew who our team was going tobe.
We would take youth from ourteam, like high schoolers and
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sometimes college kids from ourchurch and from other area
churches, and I never knew whoour team was going to be.
But I always knew, once we cametogether, god had been working
in them and how they were goingto be the right part of our team
or just what we needed when wegot to Hong Kong and then how
they were going to be the rightpart of our team, or just what
we needed when we got to HongKong and then how they were
going to influence the kids thatwe got to share the gospel with
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over there.
That it was always the rightperson for the job, even when I
would be like, oh, come on, thiskid.
Like, really, this kid doesn'tknow how to speak, he didn't
have a fat tongue, but he neversays more than two words at a
time.
And we'd get to Hong Kong andit was a totally different
ballgame.
He was speaking very eloquently, or people who were really shy
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were really outgoing, or weneeded those shy people to
relate to some of the kids, andit was just always how God put
that all together, just what weneeded, okay.
So Zach talked about four pointsrelating to our mission.
So, talking about mission, andI just want to know kind of how
you relate to these four points.
So, number one your mission maystart in obscurity, which we
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kind of touched base on.
Number two your mission is lessabout your highlights and more
about your heart.
Three, your mission is fueledby his spirit.
And four, your mission startswhere you are, not when you're
ready, but when you show up.
And, like I said, one of thosethat really spoke to you, or how
do you relate to thoseregarding your life mission?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, interestingly, I think most times in my life I
would have answers for all ofthese, except for point three,
and right now I feel like pointthree is where God is impressing
a lot right now, in that movingin the spirit, and part of that
is because I truly believe thatthe fruit of the spirit is
foreign to this world.
And so when people see someonewho is suffering with cancer and
(18:32):
they're joyful, they can'tunderstand it.
Or they see someone who haspeace in a horrendously tough
situation, how can this even bewhere they see kids who have joy
, um, who live in a third worldcountry, and and so I, the fruit
of the spirit, living with thatum, not because, like I'm
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trying really hard to do that,but because god gives it to his
kids and then we work to grow it.
I think that's been a big onefor me is to know the Holy
Spirit dwells in me and hasgiven me his fruit and it
matters.
And for the people outside itdoes make an impact because
they're seeing God and his lovethrough the way I get to live.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I'd say I would put number one and number four
together that there's a startingin obscurity and you're still
called to show up, and I thinkthere's way too many people that
they start in obscurity andthen they self-select to stay
there because they're too,intimidated.
They think that there's no waythat they could be used for
something important or engagingor valuable.
And so, rather than coming outof the pasture to the calling,
(19:46):
they just kind of stick aroundand they would rather dwell in
obscurity than serve the Lord,because it's scary and it takes
a lot of courage.
David could have just stayedout there with the sheep and
nobody would have batted in aneye, because that was his job.
It was comfortable for him, heknew what to expect.
It might have been dirty, buthe knew exactly what to expect
day to day.
(20:07):
But instead he responded to thecall to come and submit himself
to Samuel, and Samuel then wasable to meet that with a grander
calling than what he had everexperienced before.
And I just wonder how manypeople within our church, how
many people listening to thispodcast, are being called to
something greater.
(20:28):
But right now they've said nobecause they're afraid, and I
guess I would just want toencourage that anybody that is
listening to this right now.
You know you're called to dosomething.
Somebody needs to hear this.
I don't know who it is.
Stop saying no and startshowing up.
Show up first with your heart,allow that to be cleansed by the
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Lord, to take away all of thatfear, and then show up and just
wait and see what he's going todo.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
It could be scary.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It will be scary, but it's going to be worth it, and
it was worth it for David.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, when he talked about all you need to do is show
up, that's the one that reallyspoke to me.
There's a I'm a sports moviefanatic, like I really enjoy
sports movies, and there's areally bad movie from I don't
know early two thousands aboutum, it's called hardball and
it's Keanu Reeves and he's likea gambling addict and gets roped
into coaching this and it'sbased on a true story.
(21:21):
That's why it stuck out to me.
But he gets roped into coachingthis baseball team from the
projects and one of the thingsthat he says to them at the end
of the movie is thank you forshowing up.
I'm blown away by your abilityto show up.
And that line always stuck withme because it didn't matter if
they were, you know, winning thegames or playing their best
(21:44):
effort.
They were facing hardshipsoutside of the field and they
were still showing up for theteam.
And that's what I thought ofwhen Zach started talking about
showing up.
I was like God is blown away byour ability to just show up and
let Him use us, but we justhave to be willing to let Him
direct us.
From that and that reallyjumped out at me.
(22:06):
Okay, so when Pastor Zach waskind of wrapping up his message,
he did a little take on somenumbers in the Bible.
So I wrote it down so I couldmake sure and get it right.
So I'm going to read it.
And then I just want to know,like, what do you guys have to
say about this, or what extra doyou know about it, or anything
In the Bible.
Number six is for man, for sin,and all of us have a story of
(22:28):
six In the Bible.
The number seven is forcompletion, or perfection, and
all of us have been madecomplete by the perfect,
complete grace of Jesus ChristIn the Bible.
The number eight is newbeginnings.
What if the phrase I am numbereight is a beautiful thing
Because your story is not over?
If you've had six chapters ofsin and then been redeemed in
(22:50):
seven, your chapter eight is notover.
Your story is not done.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
How does that speak to you guys?
Well, a lot of that tie intothe numbers when it comes to
like theology actually has to goback also to the days of
creation and then fall andredemption, and so there are six
literal days of creation.
God rested on the seventh dayand then after that rest is
where we jacked it up, and it'safter that that Christ brings
the new day, based off of hisresurrection, and so that's one
(23:26):
of the reasons why we celebrateSunday as you know, not only
Easter, because it happenedthree days after there was
crucifixion on a Friday, butbecause that would be like an
eighth day recreation, but evenlike an old school architecture.
when you go into an older church, like a Catholic church or an
older Lutheran church, you goand you look at the font and the
(23:46):
majority of baptismal fonts arecreated as eight sides on the
outside of it.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Have you seen that before, where it's like an
octagon?
Yes, but I've never thoughtabout it that way.
You should see Peter and I'sface right now.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
We're both like blown away by this knowledge, if you
look at older baptismal fonts,they usually have eight sides,
and that's because this is anold theology, a good theology
about being recreated due tobaptism, and I just think
because he had talked about thatas well and we had just had
baptism.
Sunday here, not too long agoso there have been many people
(24:20):
that had their opportunity in afont of sorts or cistern, or
whatever it is that we can callit, but either way it's baptism
and it's connecting to therecreation that we get to
experience in Jesus.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Wow, yeah, I am a new creation because of Christ.
Yeah, I am a new creationbecause of Christ and my
incredible achievements don'tdefine me and my incredible
disappointments don't disqualifyme.
Because of Christ I'm a newcreation.
So that whole explanation ofthe eight side, I have noticed
(24:54):
that with baptismals I had noidea why I never knew that.
With baptismals I had no ideawhy I never knew that connection
.
So that's a powerful picture.
So next time I'm in an oldschool church and I see that
baptismal that's a beautiful.
I am number eight.
Like here you go, here you goagain.
I think an interesting thingwith our walk as Christiansians
(25:15):
is, unlike a book, we kind ofcycle back at times and we live
back in the earlier chapters and, um, like we've forgotten what
happened in chapter seven, whenchrist died for us and paid for
the price, and we don't livelike chapter eight and onward
christians.
So that that's a, that's partof that picture, that that
(25:39):
redemption, like I, I can messup, I can blow it, but the
forgiveness doesn't go away likewhat christ did, even if I'm
living like a one through six,um, christian.
Do you know what that just mademe think, oh, all right, what
do you got, because I'm sayinglike, just like mediocre stuff,
and then he's making this stuffgreat.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
No, no, you're talking about like one through
six, one through seven.
But what about Acts 1.8, whichis what we're called now to
bring the gospel to Jerusalem,judea, samaria and to the ends
of the earth?
And so now, not only are we theones who are redeemed, and in
our number eight kind of, youknow, like identity, but in our
acts one, eight, calling, we'renow called out of obscurity and
(26:20):
into service for the Lord, andwe've got a very specific target
, that's sweet yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
It's about knowing your mission.
That was kind of the theme forthis one this week's thing.
So what are your finaltakeaways from this message
about Super Mario in our Game Onseries?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, I mean I'm excited for the other three
games, none of which that I'veplayed hardly at all.
But I love the imagery and thefun of games and then connecting
it to God's word in a powerfulway.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I love looking into the breadth of David and his
character, because there is somuch to his experience that
every regular Mario type person,mustachioed or not, uh, could
connect to.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Because there is early David who is?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
impetuous and just does what he's called to do.
There's the David who's amusician, who sits in the court
of Saul after he's anointed tobe the next king.
He's still called to serve thecurrent king.
There's the David who actscrazy with the Philistines and
(27:35):
hangs out with his enemies for areally long time.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
There's the.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
David who actually becomes the king.
There's the David who mournsthe death of a child.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
The character of David is incredibly complex, and
so I'll give a shout out nowfor those who would love to see
a little bit more behind thescenes on this, If you haven't
seen House of David yet it is anexcellent program.
It does a very good job of atleast telling the biblical story
of David's life.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Season one is out on Amazon Prime.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I don't work for Amazon, I don't get sponsorships
or anything, but the eightepisodes that they do have
really help bring this story tolife.
And yes, they add artisticflair in this.
But the whole point is not tomake it the Bible.
The whole point is to show youthis TV show, introduce you to a
character and then make you saywait.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Is that in the Bible?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
And then you go back and you read the actual word of
God that's living and active,and we have number eight stories
because of the Jesus, of theBible, so I would definitely
suggest people go take a look atHouse of David too.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Yeah, I'm excited just looking into more of the
story of David, because I feellike most of the time when we
talk about David, we talk aboutone window of his life and
that's the story that peopleremember.
That resonates them and theydon't ever look at the whole
piece together.
So that's an exciting piece ofthis for me.
What really stuck with me, thefinal takeaway for me, was when
Zach said the world crownstalent and God crowns character,
(29:00):
and that kind of tied it alltogether for me, because here's
David, who has this incredibleheart and becomes a hero because
of it quote, unquote hero andMario, who has an incredible
heart, who chooses to do theright thing and save people and
help people even when it's hard,and becomes a hero.
And how we can be the hero inour own story when we discover
(29:23):
our mission and let God workwithin that.
But it comes with God crowningour character and having the
right heart and having the rightcharacter with it, and that
spoke a lot to me.
So I would be remiss if I didn'tmention that we are giving away
a few Nintendo Switch 2consoles, if you're listening
(29:44):
and you would like to invite afriend to come and join you to
experience this message series.
You can go to our website,kingofkingsorg, slash game on
and you can invite a friendthrough the website and you'll
be entered to win one of theconsoles that we'll be giving
away at the end of the month.
We're going to give away one ateach campus.
It'll be an exciting time.
So next week we'll dive intoweek two of this message.
(30:08):
So, peter, I just feel like youalways close us out now, when
you're here.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
So what would you like to do for this one?
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, we're going to do a Barry White closeout, so if
anyone wants to add to it, theycan.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Anyone at all.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, if anyone in this room wants to add to that,
they can.
So here we go.
Hey there, you heard thatmessage on Sunday, I know you
did.
You heard about God's love foryou.
Are you a little David?
Are you?
Are you number 8?
Well, if so, sunday's done,monday's, here, go get it baby
(30:48):
live life like Monday afterSunday I'm done nothing better
is going to come after thatcrushed it.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Live life like Monday After Sunday.
Wait, yeah, I'm done.
There's nothing better that'sgoing to come after that Crushed
it.
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