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November 7, 2024 87 mins
CartaCapital e o ‪WashingtonBrazilOffice‬ (WBO) transmitem uma edição especial do podcast Brazil Unfiltered para debater o resultado das eleições presidenciais americanas e como a vitória de Donald Trump contra Kamala Harris poderá impactar o futuro das relações entre Brasil e os Estados Unidos.

O encontro conta com a participação de:
  • James Naylor Green, presidente do Conselho Diretivo do WBO
  • André Pagliarini, professor de História e Estudos Internacionais na Louisiana State University
  • Vânia Penha-Lopes, professora de Sociologia no Bloomfield College
  • Thais Reis Oliveira, editora executiva de CartaCapital
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