Forty-Seven: God Doesnt Make Mistakes

Looking at this notion that people born one way are sinners while people born another are gods perfect creation.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hello, Welcome into another episode of The Brett Mason Show
them the aforementioned Brett Mason. I'm so happy to have
you joined me today. If you listened to previous episodes,
you know that the Brett Mason chose not for the
faint of heart, not for the closed minded, not for
those rigidly entrenched in dogma religion, politics, anti science. I

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have little, if any tolerance for any of that. Just
today's episode will not disappoint if you are here to
either embrace those things or hate on them, because we
will be talking. Well, it's going to be a two
for really. Obviously by clicking you already know that the
title of that episode is The God Doesn't Make Mistakes.

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I reminded of a song that I heard a trillion
times in church. My mom and dad amazing people, by
the way, my aunt and uncles all of them amazing,
and so and my dad and two of my uncles
and another one of my aunts, all all phenomenal people
who I love dearly. We're in a singing group and
I grew up boy I just as a kid, I

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was forced to go to their practices on like Thursday night,
when I'd rather been doing anything else, but you know,
it created my love of music, which was a big
part of my life and stuff. But they had this
one song they sang. It's called the God that Cannot Fail.
Here's a sampling of the lyrics from that in case
you've never heard of a Southern gospel song. Oh he's
the great God, Jehovah, so greatly to be praised. He's

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the God that will take us over every mountain sin
has raised. Boy, I could talk for hours on that
one line right there, Out of all the gods been worshiped,
there's a difference. You can tell. He's the only one
that ever gave his son. He's the God that cannot fail.
In my path away from belief, it became very apparent

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to me and continues to be more apparent to me
all the time that when you create an environment where
the being you worship literally can't fail, you enable him
to not be able to fail. I was telling a
friend of mine it's been some months ago, I don't know,
maybe over a year ago. We were having a discussion
about this type thing, and I'm like, you know, what
if Christians, and not just Christians. I don't want to

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speak on Christians, but if everybody. If every human would
give their fellow human the benefit of the doubt and
the low bar to success that they give their God,
what an amazing world this would be. There's an analogy
that I ran across on YouTube one day, just you know,

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you search for something and then you start seeing these
recognitions pop up, and I got down this rabbit hole
and I found this video on the the Great milk
Jug Paradise. And so a man hypothesized that his milk

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jug answered all of his wishes or prayers if you will,
And so every time he needed something or desired something,
he would beseeched the milk jug. You know, this is
what I need. Please, you know, help me with this,
this is what I need. And the milk Jug would
always answer with yes, no, or wait. And if you

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give the milk jug that latitude, the milk jug literally
will never fail you. The thing that you're seeking will
either happen it won't happen, in which case you can
just say, in its infinite wisdom, it decided to not
give you what you were asking for, or it will

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happen six months from now, and you can say, see,
the milk jug knew I needed to just wait for
quote unquote insert whatever reason you come up with here,
and just in a phenomenal analogy for the very low
bar that's set for God. Now I have intimate knowledge
of the Christian God and Jesus because I grew up

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in it, and I've spent hundreds and hundreds and hundreds
of hours studying the Bible. I can't speak so much
for the other religions all that much, although I've studied
them a little bit. But I know there's never been
a more clear example of setting the bar so low

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that it's just beyond ridiculous. One of the key verses
and components of the Christianity I was raised them because
you heard it read. If wasn't read every church service,
I would be shocked. But maybe they skipped a church
service every now and then, but it was. If any
among you be sick, let them call for the elders

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of the church, and they will lay hands on them.
And they shall no ifs, hands or butts, no maybes,
no what ifs, no conditions do these things. If you're sick,
call upon the elders of the church. The elders of
the church will lay hands upon them, and they shall

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sha l is a very powerful word. They shall recover. Now,
to me, that's a pretty unambiguous verse in the Bible.
It's if, ever, there were a verse that was straightforward
and simple and plain, with a clear set of instructions
and a clear promised outcome if you follow those instructions,

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that verse is it. It's just cut and dried. You
can make no bones about it. Here it is. Yet,
I guess in my lifetime I've probably literally seen thousands
of people call upon the elders of the church, and
the elders of the church laid hands upon them and

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pray to prayer of faith. That doesn't say that in
that verse, but some other verses do it. I've heard
that said, and the people didn't recover. They died. My
mom one of them, my dad one of them, my
grandma one of them. Basically everybody that every died ever
died one of them. I saw people who had relatively

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minor issues, you know, get prayer. I remember this one
young lady who had I don't know why she came
to my mind, but I was thinking about her the
other day. But she had this gastric bypass surgery, you know,
to lose weight, and after she had that surgery. She
just had problems all the time, and she lived maybe
a year, a year and a half. She's always had problems.
You know, she didn't die right away. I don't know

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how many prayers she got from the elders of the church,
but it was a ton of them. Ultimately she's succumbed
to you know, complications from that surgery. So how do
Christians reconcile this? How do they reconcile it? Well, they

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have set the bar very low in a similar way
as to the milk jug analogy. They will come with, well,
he did answer the prayer, and he said no, or
in the case of things like you know, I need
a new job, or you know, we need a new
truck or whatever, and they don't get one, and you

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just you go through months and months of just you know,
hardship and whatever trying to get through this issue that
you really need to resolve, and then at some point,
whether it be six months or a year down the road,
it finally gets resolved and they say, see, God did it.
He just said Wait when really what happened was the
people buckled down for that year and they scrimped and
saved and they picked up an extra job and sold

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some stuff and borrowed and just did all this stuff
and finally, you know, wound up getting the truck or
the stove or getting the door, you know, whatever it
was that they could couldn't handle at that time, and
they finally get it handled. And instead of giving themselves
credit for it, right, they're the one that did all
of it, got through it on the wrong. Great resilience,

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great strength, great fortitude, things you should be proud of.
That's the That's the thing I hate about religion and
Christianity is like you can't take credit for anything. It
doesn't matter how hard you work or how hard you try,
or what you'd overcome or what resilience you have. Whenever
there is a positive outcome, God did it. He did it,
and without him it would not have happened. And so

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so that's the other thing, you know, oh yeah he
did it. He just you know, God said, wait, because
he knew I needed to go through all that stuff. Well,
I don't find it. I don't find that. I don't
find that in that particular verse right there. You know,
My mom battled cancer for right at five years. The
elder laid hands on her countless times. There was a

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quote unquote elder that told my mom that didn't matter
how much he prayed for her, that if she didn't
have enough faith, it didn't matter. It didn't matter how
much faith he had. That if she didn't have no faith,
well that's why she wasn't getting healed. My mom had
more faith than anybody that ever walked this planet. My
mom was a believer to the core. I still want
to go find that quote unquote elder, that preacher and

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just punch him in the throat. I still think about it.
I still may one day. I don't know. If you
find him one day at the er with his throat punched,
I guess you'll probably know I'm the one that did it.
A kid, A kid. I don't like violence. I would
be too afraid of what would happen to me. But
I think about it often. My mom was at one
of the lowest points in her journey. She was just

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racked with pain and misery that was unending, and she
was in a truly hopeless state at that time, and
she went to church that night, drug herself to church
feeling as low as maybe in the top on the bottom.
Ten times. I ever saw or low. She was in
the box because she had a lot of really bad
low spots, so I don't want to say it was
the worst one, probably one of the bottom ten. She

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drug herself to that church that night, looking for hope,
looking for relief, looking for an answer, and that piece
of shit did that to her. But I digress. Humans
have flaws, so I'd rather go back to making this
about this God that doesn't make mistakes and can't fail.
By the way, I'm getting to a point that this
has a theme I haven't even gotten to yet, which

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will become a parent here in the near future. But
I just want to go through these things, so you know,
I remember posting on Facebook because I didn't want anybody
to make the mistake and do it. But I remember
after my mom died. I don't know if it was
that day or the next day or something, but I
posted on Facebook. Better or not, anybody come up to
me and tell me that God finally healed my mom,

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that she's healed now, because death is not healing. But
that's another way that their God never fails, because it's
the lowest possible. If we would set such a low
bar for success for our kids, and our siblings, and
our parents, and our coworkers and people. If we would
set such a low bar of success for them, the
world would be such a much better place. There would

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be so much less judgments, so much less condemnation, because
you cannot fail in a more epic way than allowing
somebody that you are praying for to be healed to
die like that. That is the ultimate failure. There's no
greater failure than that, Like you have failed in the
grandest way possible. But Christians turned it into a success.

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And oh she's healed now, she'd never feel pain again.
Well yeah, because she's dead now. Oh yeah, but she
in heaven now. And I mean, prove it, prove it,
prove it. You're gonna prove it using the same book
that said if the elders laid the hands on her,
she'd recover. You're gonna use the same book because you know, anyways,

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I know it probably agitates a lot of people to
listen to, maybe some people I care about. I have
many people who I love and value dearly who are
just as adamant believers as my mom. And to that point,
I would say I love them dearly. I cherish them dearly.
I think they're amazing people, far more amazing people than
I am. I just I just don't believe what they believe.

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As far as that goes, like, I don't see the
evidence for it. I've seen zero evidence for it my
entire life, and I continue to see zero evidence for it.
And I see how you can make up some ways
that stuff is happening, but it not really happening. So
that's a big preamble to the actual part of this.

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If you think that's controversial, it's about to get a
lot worse. Let's put it that way. So the reason
I brought up this whole concept and this whole notion
is to talk about these people who are have reached
the point in their life where, for whatever reason, whether
it be mental health or just severe depression, internal pain, torment, whatever,

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they have finally come to the decision that they really
need to transition, whether that be from a operating in life,
going from operating in life as a female to a male,
or operating in life as a as a male to
a female. Because the Christians, and I suppose all religions

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is the Abrahamic religions anyway, would say, well, God don't
make the mistakes. And let me tell you right now,
God don't make the MISTAKEE they is born. He's born,
he got a weaner, he got some test. That's a
man and you can't change it. God don't make no mistakes. Well,

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I mean a again, it's it's interesting to me that
they can be so certain of things that are surrounded
by uncertainty. When I was younger, and I don't know
how old I got, I know into my early twenties
and maybe I made it into my mid twenties before
this person passed away. But I grew up around and
knowing a person in my community who was UH. I

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really don't know how to describe what they were, but
presumably they had They either had two sets of sexual
organs or you know, their their hormones and mentality and
stuff that matters. I'm not sure which it was, but
I know that they had a quote unquote male name,

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and UH, in many ways did look and look and
talk and walk like a male. But but my understanding
is that I guess they were born. I don't know. Look,
I don't want to get too fear into it, but
I know for fact that that person wasn't born male

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or female. They just weren't. And I know how difficult
their life was trying to deal with that and navigate it.
Now at that time, procedures and surgeries and medical treatments
and other things I guess really didn't exist too much
to help in that regard. Besides that, this person probably
didn't have the means to make it happen even if

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it did. But I do remember that that person was
a good person. I remember that. But God didn't make
a mistake. There, didn't mess up. She's got person's got
two sets of genitalia. That's not nothing wrong with that
as normal bullshit, excuse my French, but bullshit. What I

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have found in dealing with these religious zealous, these people
who are just so entrenched in that they don't see
things any other way. And that's the one thing I
loved about my mom. My mom was a believer. She
was a diehard, she was hard to the core. But
she also would say, you know, there's some things that
I just I'm not so sure about and I have
questions about, and I don't believe I should be taking

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a hard stance on that because it don't affect me,
and this person's going through and This is one of
those examples of what she would of how she would
feel about that. She also felt that way about homosexuality.
So I know, you know a few people she and
I both know in common that are homosexuals, and she

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loved them dearly and cherished them. But one of them
in particular, she's talking about what a fabulous human they were.
And I agree, absolute fabulous human. And this person was
going through hardships with family who were, you know, trying
to navigate that in a very religious family that just
believes you're wrong. You going to hall, which is horrible

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for this person. It was a great person. And you
tell me this person don't know. I mean, this is
what's crazy. You try to tell me this person don't
know that they're wrong. It's them they know. And then
you'll hear this argument is, well, that's that's that's the
work of the devil. Well, that is I should work
as the devil. I should work at the devil right there. God,

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don't make no mistakes. Devil messing with them, Devil in there,
messing with their mind. So we have we can, we
can verifiably prove. Now there's been enough people that have
gone through us that have just, you know, been born

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with a penis and went through the first eighteen years
of their life with one, knowing the whole time that
they just aren't a male. They don't feel like a male,
they don't act like a male, they don't think like
a male, they don't talk like a male. They don't
have ambitions of a male, they don't have desires of
a male. And I have any of that. It's all female.
Everything in them operates as a female. It's so they
got a penis, and then they finally get old enough
and they start having these procedures and they transition, and

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for the first time in their life, they're not suicidal.
They're not depressed, they're not ready to go jump off
of a bridge. They finally feel like I can you know,
I can exist in the world as who I am,
which is regardless of how much hate and bitterness I
get from these psychopaths, is still better than what I
grew up in. And you tell me that they're wrong,

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that the devil did that. No, show me a one.
Show me a devil. First of all, I defy anybody
to show me a devil. Produce one. Sorry, I swore
I wasn't going to get like super animated. But it
just bugs me because these people use this religion to
cause people torment and pain. It ain't none of your

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freaking business. First of all, whether you're right or whether
you're wrong, it ain't. They ain't hurting you, they're not
harming you, and they have zero effect on your life.
Zero effect do they have in your life, So even
if they are wrong, what do you care? So I

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mentioned this in another episode, but I'll bring it up again,
this whole this whole thing about being gay. And you
hear this last today, but you're still hear it some
But I know when I was growing up and then
to my twenties and on, it was a choice. They
choosing that lish style, man, That's what they're choosing, that

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life style. They making a choice, man. And I heard
one of the most i opening things I've ever heard
by somebody one day, and I'm not smart enough to
have thought of it, but once I heard it and
it resonated, I'm like, oh, I'm using that all the time.
And it was simply this, if you believe, if you
believe that being gay is a choice, if you believe
that you choose to be sexually attracted to a person

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of your same gender. If you believe that is something
you can simply choose, you can just go you want today,
if you're a man, if you can just you can
wake up today and you know what, Today, I choose
to be attracted to penis. I would love one of
those in my mouth and in my anus and be
excited about it. If you can do that, then I'll
believe you that it's a choice. I ain't never seen

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anybody else yet that did it. Because it's not appealing
to you, it revolts as most people. And then the
people that it's not revolting to they at least you know,
it just doesn't register. And oh no, I don't. It's
not a choice. There is something that there was something different,

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and we have emerging science. Well it's more than emerging now.
It was emerging science fifteen years ago, but we have
continued science that chose many variety of factors and things
physiologically that caused this. Ain't a devil either, They ain't
once found a devil in there. I set all this

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that to say this this whole God don't make no mistakes.
God don't make the mistakes. That's a chillish that's a
chillish you made, or that's your devil in there. The
devil callst you to on a transition because you've got
a dangler down there. You got some danglers and a wangler,

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and that's the way the Good Lord wanted it. And
he don't make no mistakes. If that's true, and the
Good Lord don't make no mistakes with births, explain to
me cleft lips and cleft palates. Explain to me that
is that God wanted those people to be cursed with
cleft lips and cleft palates so that they have problems eating,

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they have problems breathing, they have problems drinking, they have
problems sleeping. That's what God wanted because that is something
that can be corrected with surgery and medical procedures. If
you believe that God had that person born that way
because that's the way he wanted it, you should be
against babies with cleft lips and left palots getting surgeries.

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Why would you want man screwing up something that God made?
Because God made that, He made that, God created that perfection.
That is perfection. Why are you fucking with it? Why?
Why are you fucking with it? Why? Are you trying
to fix their lip and stuff? Why are you trying
to make them happier and healthier and able to function

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and go through life better? Why are you doing that?
You're fucking up what God created. Heart defects, ranginging from
those that can just merely cause some physical discomfort or
maybe physical limitations all the ways to those that can
be deadly. All of them can be repaired. Not all
of them, but many of them can be repaired with

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surgical procedures. So many many cases, the person can go
on the fill it to live a full and healthy
life with a heart that functions on them. You got
these valve replacement surgeries and these other type surgeries, the
whole in the heart surgery, and that there's several different
ones of them. Why are you Why are y'all in
there fucking with that? That God don't make no mistake.
He wanted that heart to be like that, and you

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can't tell me that he didn't. He said, God, it
ain't no mistake. God ain't made no mistake. Or mister
devil did that? The devil telling you that? The devil too? You,
Dad said, how ridiculous that sounds. You're insane that sounds.
I could go on and on. There's so many of them,

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I can't even pronounce any on Epicity idius, a congenital
defect that causes the urinary outlet be above its normal position,
causes incontinence and sexual dysfunction. Pulmonary sersuation with explonary gross
that can be surgeally removed that would other cause cause
huge physical limitations in the lung. Club foot. Baby's little

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foot is twist it and completely backwards and out of position.
That can be repaired or fixed and made better with surgery. Hernias.
Baby's born with hernias. Hernias ranging from on the minor
side of just being physically limiting or discomfort, all the
way to being deadly where you have a strangled hernias
that can cause death. I mean all this, Why are

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you fixing that? Why are y'all operating on that? Clearly
God wanted that baby to have that? Why are you
fucking with God's perfection called God? Don't make no mistakes.
Neural tube defects, acrosyndactily, I don't know how to pronounce that.
And ophithalmia, I don't know how to pronounce that. Break adactively.
I don't know how to pronounce that central ray deficiency.

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You ever seen those people? It looks like their middle
middle finger or middle two fingers are missing in their hand.
Looks like the claw of a lobster or something. That's
what that is. It causes pain, it causes limitation and function.
They can help people like that with surgeries. Why y'all
fucking with that? Clearly God wanted that person have a
claw for a hand. Why are you in there fucking

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with it? God, don't make no mistake, boy, I'm never
going to get this one. Congenital blaphorom blaphrom femosis. This
is a congenital microcephaly caused severe epilepsy, abductive thumbs, abnormal genitalia,

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abnormal thyroid function. They have surgeries that can contact, correct,
or improve many of those things that come as a
result of that congenital defect. Why y'all want to be
fucking with that? God did that? God don't make muh steaks?
Do you send no doctors in there messing with that.

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Don't send no doctors in there messing with God's perfection.
That is exactly how God intended that child to be.
Why you fucking with it? It's nonsensical. The whole thing
is onsensible. If a baby can be born with a
claw for a hand, a cleft palate, extra genitalia, two

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sets of genitalia, messed up thyroids, holes in their heart,
and all that stuff. If all that shit can happen
and be bad and be unhealthy and be wrong and
cause misery or loss of life, or a not near
optimal life or a shortened life. If all that can happen,
and under God's perfect plan, but we can fix it. Surely.

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God sometimes fucks up the wiring in somebody's brain, and
he gives them a brain wired up like a woman
and genitalia wired up like a man. If he can
fuck up one thing, he can fuck up all the things.
And who are you to say that it ain't like that?
Who are you? You're not there, you're not in their body,
you're not living with their mental torment and anguish. It's

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not you. You're not the one that has to suffer
through life with it and try to live the best
life possible like that. It doesn't affect you, with all
due respect, sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up.

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So the one thing I would say, where I do agree,
we can find some common ground. I don't think five
year olds should be having transgender surgery. I don't think
seven year olds should probably be having transgender surgery. I
don't think ten year olds should probably be having transgender surgery.

(27:35):
I think it's borderline, but still probably not something twelve
year olds should be considering. Once we start getting it
around sixteen years old or something. Perhaps, just perhaps there's
people in the room more qualified to deal with that
than you or I, that namely being the child who's
now had been going through this for sixteen years, namely

(27:56):
the child's parent who has been in the house with
him for sixteen fucking years, and the doctor who has
probably been seeing that child for two, five, ten, sixteen
fucking years. Just perhaps I'm just just throw it out here,
just perhaps those people are better at making that decision
than you and me. Just perhaps, just perhaps, just perhaps

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they're a little bit better informed, just perhaps they have
more experience with it, Just perhaps they maybe have some
medical knowledge that you and I don't fucking have, And
just perhaps it ain't none of our fucking business. Just perhaps,
And so my understanding this process is, and I've done
quite a bit of reading on it, something I dare

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say most people that are opposed to it and shout
from the rooftops by like a bunch of goddamn morons
probably ain't read shit about it. But I have because
I believe you should study stuff and you should be
informed about stuff that you have a strong opinion about.
And so this process generally begins with some type of
a hormone enhancement. This hormone enhancement, will you know, generally

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affects the way that person thinks, enhances the way they think,
and right almost immediately, you can see in many many
cases where for instance, where a person born as a
female but they just really have been just felt like
they're male their whole life, just just from almost day one.

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It takes a little longer because I've had some test
strong replacement therapy myself, and I know this doesn't click
kick in like taking an aspirin. But you know over
time that person now suddenly starts having these physiological effects
that match their brain and suddenly they feel more at peace,
and they feel more at ease, and they feel like,
oh wow, this something fits now. But I know that

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this is a process. I don't know that I know
that they don't just go in there and have a
meeting in a doctor's office, and the next week they're
whacking their wianers and testicles off. It doesn't work like that.
It's a process that happens over time. It also includes
therapy and counseling, consultations with those type medical professionals, doctors, surgeons, parents,

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the whole nine yards, and it happens out over a
long length of time, so that if a child did
begin this process at sixteen, let's say for an example,
they would be well over eighteen by the time any
type of surgery happened, if it ever happened. Because it
is a complicated and quite frankly expensive procedure that many
of them don't often quite make it too. But they

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at least get the physiological part right, They at least
get the hormonal balance right, so that the hormonal balance
matches what's going on in the brain. And just connecting
those two and making them match up in the right
kind of way, the person just feels so much better.
They don't feel suicidal anymore. They don't want to jump
off of a bridge anymore. They don't feel like there's
no reason for the beer. They don't feel like they're
the most outcast, isolated, different, fucked up, twisted. Does my

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life even matter person on the planet anymore? And how
can you be against that? Like? How freaking narrow minded
and wallowing and ignorance do you have to be to
be against that? I don't understand it. Ain't you? Oh
but God, God, don't make no mistakes. Well, I mean

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tell that the baby with the whole in its heart
when it was born. I feel like I've pushed my
luck with this episode is by as far as I
should push it up till this point. I'd like to
reiterate something I said earlier. If you're a believer, I

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love you. I don't think you should push your beliefs
on other people. And as long as you don't do
that and try to force your religious beliefs from a
two thousand year old document written by ignorant sheep herders,
then I support wholeheartedly your right and ability to believe
that belief with all the passion, vim burger and dedication

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that you possibly can muster. And I support it and
I will love you through all of it. But when
you start trying to write laws and shit to force
some of that chin on me, or somebody else. You've
crossed the line. You've said that some ancient old writings
by ignorant sheepherders, oftentimes anone ofous authors who didn't have

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the balls to put their real name on the document
that was being written. Well, what are you talking about. Well,
let's just start with the Gospels. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and
John was not written by Matthew, Mark Luke or John. Matthew, Mark, Luke,
and John were all dead when those books were written,
long dead. I could go on and on. I could

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name some out of the Old Testament for you. I
can name some epistles of Paul that the majority of
all Biblical scholars agree are forgeries that Paul never wrote.
I could go on and on, But I wan't. You
still have the right to believe all that stuff. I
support your right to believe it, no matter how nonsensical

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I think it is. I support your right to believe it.
This America, this is the Homer religious freedom. You should
be free to worship in any way you see fit,
as long as it does not come any closer than
the nose on the tip of the nose on the
end of my face. Once your beliefs push past the
tip of the nose on my face or the tip

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of the nose on somebody else's face. Once your beliefs
pushed through that, now you've moved into territory that I
don't support anymore. Once you get legislatures to pass laws
that force your religious beliefs on people who don't believe that,
you've gone too far. Religion is a personal thing. It's
not a national thing. It's not a law thing. It

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wasn't when Jesus was alive. Jesus never politic for anybody
to be emperor. Jesus never politic for anybody to be
the local Jesus never politic for the who should be
the tax collector. Jesus never politiced for any of that shit.
Just didn't have time for that. He said, it doesn't matter.

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He also never said when somebody was in power that
they weren't, that's not my emperor, other than the fact
that I'm not of this world and I answer to
a higher power. Now in America, people say, well, that's
not my president because there's the other guy's my president,
which is totally not biblical. There's nothing biblical about that.
If you think there's something biblical about that you, with

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all due respect, you haven't read the Bible, like you've
heard some verses that some preachers have told you in church,
but you haven't read the Bible because Jesus would flatly
reject all of that. Jesus would set you down on
the side of a mountain and say, you fool, you've
placed your trust in this man over this man. Do
you not know that I and the Father are the

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ones who controls the world and all the things that
are in it, and we're always working things to go
in the way that we want them to go. We
don't need your freaking help. We don't need his help,
whoever that the person you like is, And we don't
need the other guy's help. We don't need either one
of them's help. Doesn't matter which one of them's in power,
it's irrelevant. That's what Jesus will tell you. And that's
not me making some shit up. That's biblical because I've

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read the Bible. That's biblical, because I've spent many, many
hundreds of hours in the Bible. I know a lot
of you don't know it because that's not the verses
they talk about when you're in church. They nitpick and
choose which verses they talk about, and they repeat them
ad finitem over and over. It's the same verses over
and over. I remember church, same verses over and over.

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Every now and then, you'd have a preacher to come
through and grab some antiquated verse out of some book
in the Old Testament nobody ever reads, and he'd turned
it into a sermon. But he almost always turned it
around and used it to back up one of those
other verses that they always talk about every Sunday. But
for the vast majority of the Bible, nobody's ever laid
eyes on. They just have it. Most Christians have never
laid eyes on the majority of the Bible. They believe

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in it, they think it's the ultimate truth, but they
ain't read it. Now, if you and studied it, If
you think something is the ultimate truth, that, if it
is the foundation of everything that matters, but you haven't
read it, how ignorant are you. Nevertheless, I support your

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right to believe. I would defend your right to believe
to the bitter end if it came down to it,
I wouldn't God forbidden. There's a phrase I'm sure you
like that. It came right down to it at some point,
I guess I would have to risk my life for it.
I believe it strong enough that I suppose I would.
It would suck for me, but especially since you want

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to force your stuff on me and I don't want it,
but I would defend it. I'd say, no, this person believes,
and they believe it's for them and their husband, and
this is the way they believe, and this is the
way they want to live, and this is how they
want to pray, and that you don't mess with them.
That's their right, this is how they want to raise
their kids. To leave this stuff. That's their right, that's
their religious right. Everybody has that in America. But once

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you start moving over and trying to make laws out
of it, I don't defend that anymore. I won't die
for that, I won't fight for that. I won't stand
up for that, not for a minute, because that's bullshit.
That you're now turning your religion into a government, into
a theocracy. That's what i Ran does, that's what Saudi
Arabia does, That's what other heavily religious theocracies in the

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Middle East of done. You see how that turns out,
all right? I went on longer than I intended. I
appreciate you being here. I love you genuinely because you're
my fellow human. I want the very best for you.
If you're a transgender, if you are having issues in
those areas, that just my very best wishes for you.

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If you're one of those people having the elders pray
for you and lay hands on you and hoping that
you recover, my very best wishes for you. I hope
that happens for you. I've been there, I've seen it,
and I know what it's like where it's like that
I need this, I really need this. This is the
only thing probably that we'll fix it. And you know,
unfortunately I don't. I've never seen where it did. But

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I genuinely hope you're the one. I do. I genuinely
hope you're the one if you're in that situation. With
all my heart, I do and with that conciliatory, peaceful,
genuinely from my heart expression, I will end this episode,
and I thank you for being here.