Todd Bowles & Kevin Carberry on Team Chemistry & Baker Mayfield’s Resiliency | Bucs Total Access

Reporter Casey Phillips sits down with Tampa Bay Buccaneers Head Coach Todd Bowles and Offensive Line Coach Kevin Carberry after Week 13’s game vs. the Carolina Panthers. They talk about the team’s ability to execute despite challenges, the cohesion of the 11-man offense, and Coach Bowles’ hopes for this team moving forward.

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Todd Bowles.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Welcome into the Todd Bowles Show. Casey Phillips here with
head coach Todd Bowles. First of all, the reaction to
winning the coin toss, Tell me how that felt in
the moment.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
It was huge because LaMonte always takes tails because they
want the defense to go up first. And before the
game I said you need to pick heads, and then
overtime make sure you pick heads. And he won both losses.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Wow, he's our good luck term now as well? Is
that fair to say?

Speaker 4 (01:11):
When he wants to be, he's a good luck charm.
When he wants the defense to go out, he'll call
tails so funny.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
So tell me what did this win say about this
team and getting the overtime and what did it mean
to them getting to win this way?

Speaker 4 (01:24):
It was more about the growth from the first half
of the season, from the games we lost. It's about
finishing in two minute offensively did a very good job.
They did a very good job with the clock, with
the timeouts, getting the ball down in the field goal range,
and understanding what we practiced and taking it over to
the game. So that part was huge for us and
it meant a lot. It meant an awful lot from

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a toughness standpoint.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
And then man Bucky's game one hundred and fifty two
yards rushing thirty three receiving first over hundred yard rushing
game of his career. Now he has back to back
games with over one hundred and fifty scrimmage charge, first
rookie to do that since twenty nine. Team these last
two games in particular, but overall, just what have you
seen from the way the offense has chosen to use him,

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and the way he's coming on this last half of
the season to just be such a massive part of
this offense.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
He's gotten more comfortable with the offense, and the more
comfortable he gets, the more we can give him. From
a rookie standpoint, obviously him and Rashad have some big
runs in this ball game, but he has things you
can't teach. He can make people miss, he can make
people missing the open field, he can make people missing
tight spaces, and he played a heck of a ballgame
for us.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I feel like we've done a lot of these stats
where it's compared to other rookies what we've said with him,
but now looking also, he's fourth in the league in
yards per rush and yards per touch, behind Jamior Gibbs,
Saquon Barkley, and Derrick Henry. And that's it. So what
does that say to you about not just where he's
at from a rookie standpoint, but across the whole league
looking at running backs.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
He's definitely not a rookie right now, and I think
the whole league is looking at that and they see
that we have a player in what we have here.
So he's making grace. He understands the game so well
and he loves to compete. Again, he's the first player
in the building every morning, and you just love where
he's at mentally.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
And how do we feel about his health moving forward
seeing that he'd had that hip issue during the game.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
A little early right now, but we'll see how the
week goes for him.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
And then I know, first half you talked about the
kind of the growth of what ended up happening as
the game went on, But first half he only had
thirty two rushing yards with a three point five to
five yard average. What seemed to change first half to
second half for him?

Speaker 4 (03:28):
We committed to the run a lot more in the
second half than we did the first half. We kind
of shot ourselves in the foot early in the first
half with the turnovers, but in the second half we
kind of settled down, The offensive line settled down, Liam
started pounding the ball, and Shot and Buckie were making
some great runs.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
What stands out to you about the forty three yard
run and then especially some of the other guys that
contributed to making it a success Again.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
He made some cuts, He made some cuts to get
out in the open space. But they did a heck
of a job. Combo blocking up. The entire offensive line
did a heck of a job ball game, especially Tristan
was coming back from injury and playing the entire game
like that the way he did. Those guys played tall,
they played hard, they shook everything off at halftime, and
they got it done.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I also felt like the tight ends were a big
part of some of the blocking that was happening in
the game. How exciting is that to see when you've
got multiple guys out there at the tight end position
being able to be keys in that area.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
Tight ends, then wide receivers, specifically Trey Palmer. Trey Palmer
did a heck of a job block, and obviously Kate
and Payne and Cold do a heck of a job
as well.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
And then how about the touchdown that he got take
us through kind of that play and even that drive overall,
the fact that he got touches on eight of eleven
of the plays on that drive. What stood out to
you about those plays in that drive?

Speaker 4 (04:40):
That was his drive completely Again, we kept it on
the ground for the most part. He was pounding a rock.
The offensive line came off the ball great. He just
saw the openings.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
And then how about Rashot. I know he had his
thirty eight yarder to help set up that game winning
field goal. What'stood out about that run and that play
and his ability to.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Come in there like that, that was huge. That was
one of the players that again as well, it came outside.
He got a great block, He got a great block
from the old line, and when he sprung it outside,
he took it all the way down the field. Great
visions by him, great balanced by him, great getting the
getting the tackles off of them.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
And what did you see from the rest of Rashad's
game outside of that planet? Bucky got so much of
the attention there, But I know Vershot had some key
moments as well.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Rashot had some tough runs. He had some big runs
as well. Bucky's a little more shiftier, so his were
more exciting. But at the same time, Rashot and Buckie
has won two punch. It helped us immensely and he
played a heck of a ball game.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
And then Baker, I know he expressed that it wasn't
especially the first half he would have liked, but the
game overall, but take us through first of all, just
his couple interceptions and what seemed to go wrong there.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
Two errant throws. Two errant throws. We got it down
in short yards. The other side was wide open. If
he had have looked there, he would have had to play.
And then before the half gone on two minutes we
turned the ball over. We held it too long. But
he went into halftime, he shook it off, he came
back out, he made some plays, He got us down
the field in two minutes, and then he took us
down there in overtime.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
What does this say to you that essentially this is
not one of Baker's better games necessarily, but to see
that he is still doing what it takes to get
the win. What kind of things about his game allow
him to be doing that even when, as he said
after game, he felt like it wasn't a great performance
for him to still do.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
Enough, it wasn't, but he's resilient, and it's a team game.
He's resilient, and he gathered himself. He got himself back together.
He was composed in the second half. He understood what
he did wrong in the first half, and he went
out and he won the game for us.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
No, no, again, it's early in the week, But how
do we feel about his health and the way you
guys plan to keep an eye on that throughout the week.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
He's sore, he'll be sore this week, but I'm pretty
sure he'll be out there Sunday.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
And then I know, also, Mike Evans a guy you're
pretty excited to have out there on Sundays again. Yeah,
I mean, man, one hundred and eighteen yards, lots of
chunk plays. Just to see the success that he's having
again so quickly back from injury. It didn't feel like
he had to, you know, re get acquainted at all.
It felt like he just hit the ground running again
literally as well as metaphorically, and tell me just to

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have a game like that for him at this point
what that ended up meaning to the offense and what
it's like to have a guy come back from injury
like that and just be ready to go.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
He was huge. I mean, we needed every catch. He
made some big plays all throughout the game. He made
a big play in two minutes, He made some big
first downs, he made a hell of a touchdown grab
and Mike is doing Mike things, and we're glad to
have him back out there.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
You've watched a lot of football in your career. His
touchdown are there? Still does that play get you fired up? Excited? Surprise?

Speaker 4 (07:30):
You have?

Speaker 2 (07:30):
You just seen so much now that you are you're
hard to impress or does even things like that what
Mike does?

Speaker 4 (07:35):
It was impressive. It was more impressive when I saw
the replay. First, I thought it was just a regular
one hand to grab, but they're ready to get his hand.
Is to get his hand, one hand up there and
get his feet down with somebody hanging on him. That
was impressive.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
And what did you see it do to the rest
of the offense? And just the way that the defense
has to adjust.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
For him gives us energy. You got to double him.
If you don't double him, he's going to be a
problem all day. And when you double him, he's even
a problem. But it gives everybody energy, It gets everybody going,
and it helps you want to play.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Acy Phillips here with head coach Todd Bowles defensively man
two of the three first drives, three and out. I mean,
what did that tell you about the way your defense
was able to start things?

Speaker 4 (08:15):
They were focused, they were ready to play. We understood
the assignments. Those guys carried out. The communication was great,
the sudden changes that they had to go out there,
when we shanked the punt and when we got the
interception that put them down the red zone, they stood
up and they made some place.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
What's it like, even just early in a game with
that rhythm of where you guys are getting some three
and outs, but then the offense is also getting some
three and outs? How hard is that to kind of
manage in that moment of keeping everyone where they.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Need to be. It's not hard. It's just about defensively
not letting them score. It's a mindset and some mindset
they've had all week, in the last two weeks really,
and we just got to continue it.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I know, for our offense started with some of those
three and outs, started zero to eight on third down,
finished two of twelve. What did you see about why
the offense was kind of struggling to get going first
of all that then was able to kind of get
fixed a little.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Bit later, shooting ourselves in the foot with penalties, mining
mistakes here and there, got it together at halftime, came
back out played a lot better.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
I know that Caid was such a big part of
the offense while it was both Mike and Chris were out.
Now that Mike is back, it looks like Caid's production
has fallen off a little bit. Is that just out
of Mike's back and so there's less to go around?
Or is there something lately that has kind of affected
Kid's catch totals and yard totals?

Speaker 4 (09:29):
He cut his hair, that's worse stick anyway, cut his hair.
He cut his hair and his total went down. No,
but it doesn't have anything to do with this catch total.
We have some things to go downfield more. Kate was
doing more those things when Mike was out. We'll still
have him involved in quite a few things and he'll
be effective down stretch.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
How important was it to get Tristan back from injury?
And just what did you see is what it did
for this whole offensive line, run, game protection.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
Everything, Just to have him out there. I think it
got the offensive line excited. But and played the heck
of a ball game. You know, even half a Trystan
is more of anybody else. But he competed, He played
his butt off. You rarely could see him. He didn't
limp when he was out there, and he finished the job.
His hats off to him.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
And what did you see from the couple sacks that
there were? How much was it a protection breakdown, coverage sack,
Baker hanging onto the ball? What did you see from
each of them?

Speaker 4 (10:21):
I know one for sure was the coverage sack once
they had a pressure, we just got to get rid
of the ball earlier. And one they had good coverage on,
so you know, give him credit.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
And then I know you guys, defensively, stopping the run
always first and foremost on your minds. To be able
to hold Hubbard to just forty three yards rushing has
to be a pretty big win in your mind. What
did you see that your defense was able to do
well to slow him down when he's had a pretty
great year.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Getting off the ball up the middle started with Kanzi
and Vita obviously getting off the ball, but yeah, Yah
and Nelson played great on the outside. Golston came in
and made a bunch of plays, and the safeties in
the corners were tackling as well, So it.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Was a group effort.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
And yeah, overall for the defensive line, what stood out
to you about their game as a whole?

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Tough, all of them tough, I thought Canci really played
in the backfield all day. What plays he didn't make
he caused others to make. I thought yah Ya and
Nelly on the edge played very well and they played
strong on the outside and let the ball get around
the corner.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, take us through Anthony Nelson's force fumble.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
What stood out to you about that the fact that
he understood his assignment. We've been raking the ball the
past couple of weeks and for him they make that
play and going there and take the ball out of there.
That was huge for us because they were I can
field gold range. For us to get that out of
there and Nelly to be aware and have the wherewithal
to get that to get that ball out was huge.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, for what it meant to the game specifically, and
then to know even just what this game meant to
our season and playoff hopes. Is there a chance that
may be one of the most important plays all season.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
To date right now? And they'll be bigger ones coming.
So it's gonna be like that every week, and somebody
else is gonna have to step up and make plays
every week. And we got guys that's ready to do it.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
When you were watching the fumble, bounce around and seeing
yah ya go out, tell me what's going through your mind.

Speaker 4 (12:02):
I was like dive on the ball because it looked
like he was taking a sweet time trying to pick
up and run. And it was he finally got it
and gathered it and got it together, but he was
kind of tiptoeing around it. We're gonna have a discussion
about that discussion.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
I like that. Yeah, how about his game overall? I
know he got some pressure, tackle for loss, and just
what was his production part of that?

Speaker 4 (12:24):
He played well? I mean he played physical, he played tough,
he played hard, he set the edge well. And Mannelly
had the same stats. They both had a bunch of tackles,
a bunch of quarterback pressures, and a bunch of quarterback hits.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah. And what does it say about Anthony Nelson that
he has been leading outside linebackers in sacks when he
gets a lot fewer snaps than some of these other
guys of just the way he's able to take those
snaps and really make the most of them.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
He always makes most of his snaps. He doesn't get
that many fewer rips in the starters. We count on
him as a third starter anyway, but he played and
he came out. The more he's on the field, the
more plays he makes, and we can't be dumb as coach.
We got to play more.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Take us through kind of that end the game of
especially when Adam Field scores a touchdown. First of all,
just kind of what happened on that play and how
were you guys able to watch them everybody respond in
that and not kind of collapse with just thirty seconds
left and really know what needs.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
To be done, or we didn't really get back to
our zone. One guy didn't really get back to their zone,
so we gave a touchdown there. That was disheartening, to
say the least, But we had thirty seconds and three timeouts.
We went over the scenario and practice we've been going
over in the past few weeks. We've been going over
these things. Nobody panicked when we got the ball. Baker
hit Mike on a big play, and we got some

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other plays to get down there use our time out.
We were on the fringe of a field goal. We
needed a couple more yards and Sterling caught the ball
and got down real quick and we called timeout and
it executed just like we practiced it, and they didn't panic,
and it looked like we learned some lessons from the
first half of the season.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, And what was it like to be in these
crunch time situations where you already were going into the
game without multiple members of your defense and secondary and
then you lose kJ and you lose Mike Edwards and
you know you've got guys having to move around bringing
different guys in. How did that affect what you were
able to call and do? And then how those different
backups handled being thrown into the fire there?

Speaker 4 (14:14):
It affected a few things. But I thought they competed.
I thought Tavier competed. I thought JJ went in and competed,
and I thought they played tough. We didn't do everything
we could have done or wanted to do, But at
the same time, those guys did what they did well.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
And then how had Mike Edwards been playing prior to
getting hurt. In the week of Jordan being out.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
Mike was playing very well. He was off to a
good game. I mean, he played very well, he covered well,
he played the run well, and it was unfortunate for him.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Do we know much about his injury at this point
or how severe it could be?

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Not at this time he'll get an MRI tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
And then I know Christianizzian is a guy that just
feels like again, he has had to do so many
different things. He might be one of the bigger unsung
heroes of this defense. What's it out about his game
in the various roles he got to play.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
He's physical, he's physical, and he's fast. He's gonna make
some plays. Obviously, he's always around the ball. He may
miss a tackle here and there, but for the most part,
he's a very short tackler. He quick from A to B.
He's very tough, and he's very competitive. And I thought
his main coverage was very good.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
How about Jamel and Zion? What did you see in
their coverage?

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Jamel didn't get much action when he played off they
caught the one ball, but he played very good press covers.
I thought Zion played good the whole day. He got
some PBUs. He had about three PBUs. He played smart,
He used his head, he didn't try to use his
athleticism all the time. He really played a smart, heady
football game.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
I know you mentioned before that tackling had been a
big point of emphasis that you guys, especially during the
self scouting part of the bye week, it stood out
to you. Now, two games in after the bye week,
how do you feel about how it's going.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
We were better last week. I know we missed three
last week. I'm not sure. I mean we missed this time.
I know we missed the one against Brooks on the sideline.
We didn't miss too many. We still got a gang
tackle to the football though.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
And then how about for special teams some of the
stuff that stood out in terms of Chase, you know,
having to hit two really crucial field goals, and then
I know Gil also had a little bit of struggles
with at least you know, one punt and then the
kickoff landing zone issue. What were some of the things
behind that.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Chase played well. He missed a tough field goal, obviously,
going into the win, it was a stretch to get
there in the first place. But he made the game winner,
He made the game tire, and he played very well.
Gil had a rough day. He had a rough day.
Something we can have. We lost field position quite a
bit and luckily the defense held him out and held
him to three So we were okay there, But we

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got to punt the ball better. That'll cost to some ballgames.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
You se Phillips here with head coach Todd Bowles. All right,
facing the Raiders here at home. Let's start with Max Crosby.
This is a fun guy to go against, I'm sure.
Tell me what stands out about him?

Speaker 4 (16:53):
His motor, his motor, his effort, whether he's getting single,
double tripled, his motor, his effort, he's relentless getting back there.
He's been playing great football the past few years, and
seeing him in person, he's going to be a problem.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
What are the biggest challenges of facing someone like him?
What are the hardest things in terms of game planning
and preparing for that in matchups?

Speaker 4 (17:15):
Definitely, how you're gonna double them, how you're gonna chip them.
Where he's going to be because they move him around
quite a bit. He can really wreck a game.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
All by himself, and then someone else that's able to
wreck a game by himself. Brock Bauers as a rookie
is just having an amazing season. I mean, last game
one hundred and forty yards on ten catches and a touchdown.
Also had a game go for one hundred and twenty
six yards. How impressive is that? Specifically as a rookie
tight end.

Speaker 4 (17:41):
It's very impressive because he catches the ball like a
wide out and everyone knows he's getting the ball and
no one stopped him. Yet. He can be inside, he
can be outside. He can beat corners, he can be safeties,
he can be linebackers, he can beat all the above.
And then when you go put your best guy on them,
they getting in and put them in tight and he
can block. So he's going to be a problem I'm
to deal with on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
They've had a little bit of a revolving quarterback situation
so far the season out there. How much have you
seen that affect who they are and what they're able
to do? And then with now An O'Connell.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Out there, I think O'Connell did a great job against
Kansas City last week. He took him down. You know,
they were on the Cuspoper getting the field goal to
win the ball game with Aaron snap. But he plays
with vision, he plays smart, He goes through his reads.
He understands the offense very well. I think Scott and
Orbe do a great job of coaching him on what
he's seeing. So I like what I see when I

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look at him.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
What else stands out about their offense or some other
weapons besides those guys.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Huge offensive line, huge offensive line. They got two tight
ends with Meyer and obviously the big kid from Georgia
that can really catch the football. But they can run
the ball very well. They got to Kobe Meyers outside.
They can catch the ball really well. They do a
nice job with play action pass.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
And then how about outside of Max Crosby, the rest
of their defensive.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Front, huge upside on the inside, very big on the inside.
They got case on on the other sides, backers, they
played nickel coverage. Hobbs does a heck of a job.
They disguise very well. They can play man all over
the field at any time, So it's going to be
a challenge for us getting open because they play tight coverage.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I know this has been such an important stretch coming
out of the By. This is the only home game
out of the first five games back from the by.
Does that make it feel a little extra special or
a little different knowing that finally this is kind of
the one home game during this really crucial stretch.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Home or way, it's a playoff game, and we're happy
to be home so we don't have to travel and
it's happy to be in front of our fans, but
we got to come out Razor to play and give
them something to cheerbow.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
And then, finally, with it feeling almost like a playoff
scenario since the bye week, how do you keep the
team that high but not too high where then it
becomes too much.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Gotta play. You got to live for the moment. You
got to live for the moment. We take it day
by day. We work on ourselves. We try to correct
the little things so we can make the things easy
on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
All right, well, coach, thank you so much. As always,
we appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
You got it.

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Speaker 2 (20:23):
Welcome back into Buccaneers Total Access. First half of the
show we had head coach Todd Bowles. Now I'm so
excited to be joined by offensive line coach Kevin Carberry. Coach,
thanks for being with us, Glad to be here and
always great to have a coach in. After a win,
you get, you get a good one to talk about,
and a heck of a win in so many different ways.
First of all, just what didn't this mean to the team,
to your guys, specifically to get not only a win,

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but this kind of win in overtime when the other
overtimes had not gone how the team had wanted to.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, it was. It was an exciting win, for sure.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
And it's like the old saying goes, there's you just
need one more play, and plays plays its own nity
in regardless of the circumstances. But it's a sixty minute game,
a lot of plays, every play matters, and it just
worked out the way it did. It was a pretty
wild game that is exciting and just certainly had for
the guys while they played, especially when in those critical moments,

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you know, when they needed to be at their best,
their best was required.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
It showed, Yeah, and it felt like especially a lot
of situational football at the end of the game, a
lot of things that I'm sure you guys think about
in practice a lot, and took so much execution. I
mean especially thinking maybe got six seconds left, you need
a few more yards and to get to call time out.
There were just so many moments that were so big.
How proud of your guys were you that in away
stadium to have those many crucial moments situational football and

(21:42):
to keep their heads about them, right.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
So you're very proud of the mental toughness of the guys.
And I mean it was all love and everybody on offense.
But yeah, when it was hard, it was loud, challenging environment.
Guys went out and next Q did it at a
high level.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
I know early it took a little bit for the
offense to get going to the level that you guys
would have liked in the second half. So early on,
what did it just feel like, was a little bit
more challenging out there?

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Just uh, yeah, I was.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
It's just some self inflicted wounds across the board, some penalties,
bad snap, you know, the negative run that we'd like
to have back.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
It was.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
It was a challenging but.

Speaker 5 (22:20):
As pro football, that stuff happens, you know, you'd like
to elimit it, you know, be the best at the
things that we can control. Sometimes unfortunate plays happened based
on just playing as a good team.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
In pro ball.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
And but like I said, I mean the guys respond
on the right way.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
What were some of the big either adjustments or changes
or things that you saw that helped you guys get
going a little bit more, especially in that fourth quarter,
it was more so.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Just about us and focusing on us, focusing within and
executing our best. There's the way I would say it.
And so it wasn't necessarily you know, an adjustment or
anything that came up. You know, there were some things
that a couple of different things that's you know that
they do in every week that present themselves at you know, hey,

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you may not have practiced this or may not have
shown up on film, but you got to be adjust
to be able to adjust and go play.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Absolutely, I mean yet Bucky's game, I just it was unbelievable,
the stats, the numbers he was able to put up.
First of what is it like for you guys to
get to block for someone like him that is so electric?
And then just what were you most proud of your
guys for their contributions that. Of course, Bucky's always given
you guys credit and talking about the offensive line being
so crucial to his success. So what went really well

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blocking for him? And then how exciting is it for
your guys to to block for a guy that's that electric.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
Yeah, but he certainly is electric, but he's also physical,
he's very tough, and he's a fun guy to coach.
He's a fun got to be around. He's a great
young player. And yeah, it's exciting when when all eleven
are contributing to the offense and receivers are blocking. They
had some great blocks in the game of say, Titans

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did a gat jabbission on line running back sitt in
the holes at the right time, and so it was
exciting to see that, see that come to life.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, I think if we were to pick one storyline
even about this team of from last year to this year,
it is the run game that you know that in
recent years last in some of the yards per carry
and things like that. I mean, what a dramatic turnaround
into now this being such a strength of the team
and seeing that man when things aren't going well all
ofast and fourth quarter is just feed that run game,
and that's what every team, every offense, every coach wants.

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What do you think, obviously you're intricately involved in all
of the run game stuff. What do you feel like
has just clicked this year? What's working so well and
why that's a big swing to make go for you
that much of an improvement in an area of any game.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
Yeah, I would say this every years a new year,
when you're implementing your run game, starting the offseason in
the camp, then finding your identity as this season goes along.
And so, like I said, I'm it takes all eleven,
and it takes I would just say, hey, there's been
a just a great buy in from all eleven and

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being dedicated to the run game, Oline coming off the ball,
blocking the right way, hitting blocks the right way, and.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
Then just continuing to.

Speaker 5 (25:15):
You know, get better at as the season goes on,
get better at the funnel meltal techniques and the blocking
that we want and the runners hitting runs the right way.
Everybody just being all on the same page and doing
a good job.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
I would say it's a continuous process, and it's also
processed of for results.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
You know at times, you know, sometimes like you said
about Bucky or Shot that sometimes those guys are just
made great runs. It might have been blocked perfectly, but
guys are playing fast, guys are playing with confidence and.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Doing a good job.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
That's great. And I know, also getting Tristan back probably
just warms your heart as an offensive line coach having
one of the best out there to do it back
out on the field and just to see without him,
I mean, I know Justin School's done a great job,
but what does it mean when Tristan does come back?
What does that bring to this line and the difference
he can make in an individual game that we might

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not always see.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
I always say that there's an element of just like anything,
just the caliber of player that he is and the
caliber of teammate that he is. You have him out
there and.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
You feel like.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
It's just like you have a better a good player
out there that you feel good about having out there.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
And I just feel it's.

Speaker 5 (26:29):
Really that simple, you know, And to your point to
the to the other point of that is, I'm very
proud of what Justin School did and throughout this season
in his time of come off to the bench, playing
right and playing left, the way he's come in and
competed and really done a good job. And I'm very
proud of him the way he's coming and come off
the bench in those situations when it's been applicable. But

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you'rer point about having Tristan out there. He's a special
player and he certainly gives us an edge.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, as you mentioned the challenge of the right and
left part of Justin school having on both the right
and the left. We even talked about this when Tristan
was having to move sides in that. You know, for
some fans it just sounds like, oh, it's it's tackle
either way, or it's offensive line either way. But it
is so much more complicated than that. So just what
you've seen from Tristan's ability to switch sides and still

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be so elite, And then again for Justin to be
able to play both sides in the same season, not
knowing which one he'd necessarily be at before, explain how
impressive that is to be able to make those switches
right to left.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Yeah, for Tristan to make the switch, it's been impressive.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
You know.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
I remember watching him from Afar when he was playing
right at a very high level, and then from Afar
last year when he moved to left and just being
in the division, seeing the crossover film and what impressive
player he was.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
But there's still a curve.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
Of switching your stands, switching sides, switching your hand use
and pass protection is a big deal. And so and
then for Justin, you know, he had a lot of
his reps in training camp at left, with reps at
right and then having to go in at right two
in that stretch of the season when Luke was out.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
He continued to get.

Speaker 5 (28:03):
Better throughout that stretch there and then of getting all
his reps on the right side and getting comfortable there
and then being the backup tackle, that's backup swing tackle.
That's just part of the deal is you got to
find ways to get reps on both sides. We helped
facilitate that for him, but that's part of the job

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of the backup swing tackle is being comfortable playing on
both sides.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
We're talking offensive line coach Kevin Carberry. I know that also.
The Titans ended up playing a big role in the
blocking game a few different times in this last game.
And I'd just love to hear what the partnership has
looked like. And you guys, as a unit as an
offensive line with them and what you've seen in their contributions.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
To yeah, that he's done a good job.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
And you know, when you can put two tight ends
out there, there are certain looks you can get from
the defense that you can activate certain runs and get
those off. And all three of those guys, co Pain
and Kate have just done a good job and it's
just been exciting working in concert with them, and those
guys are being really an extension of the offensive line
in the run game.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
And then similarly, the running backs, you know, having to
step up in pass pro and that's always, you know,
one of the big deciding factors of how successful running
back can even be in this league is and usually
one of the big adjustments for them coming into the
NFL from college is getting ready for that kind of thing.
How have you watched I mean, even the running backs
knowing our wide receivers are so willing to block. Just
what all that adds and how you guys work to

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all be in concert together, right.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
So the quarterbacks, running back in the offensive line off
to be on the same page that relates to pass protection,
and Bucky and Rashad and talk you have done a
really good job of just buying in and taking ownership
of it in terms of pass protection, be it play
passes or drop back protection or a third down. And
even last night there were some good shots of play
pass protections so blitz pickups they had that were very

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very helpful.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, and we've seen Klidra got another sack. He and
Vita now both have six. Tell me just if you
were thinking about having to go against these guys from
an offensive line, ste how challenging would they beat a
game plan for and how unique is it when you
were getting that kind of push from the inside.

Speaker 5 (30:09):
Very challenging, you know, because you like Colijah that's got
twitch and juice and the ability to come off the rock.
That's unique, and then Vita is so strong and powerful,
and also for the athletic inside, it would certainly present
a big challenge keeping the inside of the pocket firm
and pass protection.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Do you have maybe a couple favorite plays from this
last game for your unit, because I feel like, especially
for those of us watching the game, we don't always
know either a what offensive line is being asked to do.
What they do well, we see the result of the play,
but are there things that your line did in this
last game that you were proud of their execution Specifically.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Sometimes there's runs and in the course of a game
that like might not get on Sports Center. But the
first run of the game was a two tight end run.
It it was just a physical, downhill six yard game
and it was a good way to start the ball game.
Within a fish run, guys are blocking, got some movement,
and so sometimes those when the when the blocking combinations

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of the individual blocks are executed, well, that's very exciting.
And when there's it's physically I said, it's not the
run might not end up on the NFL network, but
an exciting run nonetheless, because it's process over results. And
so I said, okay, well, hey we got a five
or six yard run here, but the combination was good.
It's gonna be continue to be a good run force

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throughout the ballgame or throughout the course of the season.
Let's continue to invest in it. And then I would
certainly say the run and overtime was well executed.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
That was exciting, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Right, We're going to take a quick break here on
Buccaneers Total Access brought to you by Advan Health. Will
be right back with more of it offensive line coach
Kevin Carvery. This is Buccaneers Radio.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
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Speaker 2 (31:56):
Welcome back into Buccaneers Total Access. We are joined by
offensive line coach Kevin Carberry. I know we always hear
about the importance of the chemistry of the offensive line.
Where do you feel like that stands now at this
point in the season, and then just what are the
things that as a coach you kind of look to
do to to help facilitate that.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
Well, it's a special group and these guys all get along. Well,
you can feel they're close.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Knit, you know, vibes, vibes, clos vibes.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
Yeah, that's a great way of putting it. There's definitely
some close knit vibes. You can feel that in the
meeting room. And for me, facilitating the chemistry that you
want to get on the field is in the mean
room and asking guys the right a question, asking them
for feedback, asking them, hey, tell me through your lens
because you're the one you're playing. You got the helmet,

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shoulder pads on you know, how do you see this
or that you can go next? Keep play fast, and
then what's the best way to communicate it among all
five guys, be it in the run game or the
protection game.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
And I'm sure also the you mentioned earlier, how you
know O line running back core, everybody's got to be
on the same page. The chemistry Baker has with this
O line feels unique and important. You know, I imagine
that that's that's great, Yeah, it's how much do you
see that impact? The way that it looks on the
field of knowing he's going to their dinners, he's going
to their turkey time event, that they're all buddies, and

(33:19):
and I mean, heck, he even feels like he kind
of plays like an offensive lineman occasional and not afraid
to put his head in there.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
No he's not.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
No, he you see that on film throughout the course
of the year, like just with the juice that he
plays with, the energy that he plays with. And I
think guy's feed off of that, and they appreciate it,
and certainly his personality is reflective of that and the
way he plays. And then I just think the offense.
Everybody appreciates the way he plays on the offense, not

(33:46):
just the offensive line. But I think his mentality, his spirit,
his leadership or eviden, the way he plays, the way
he leads a team, the way he gets along along
with everybody on and off the field. And I just
think guys appreciate that. I know I certainly do.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah. And how about his chemistry now with Graham Barton,
because we know bringing in a rookie center, that's a
very unique challenge and knowing how much they have to
be on the same page, They're you know, doing all
the protection calls, all that kind of thing. So how
have you seen he and Graham build a relationship And
where's their chemistry at at this point?

Speaker 5 (34:17):
And it's pretty good, and it's it's certainly always ongoing
and evolving. We're a training camp where an off season program,
training camp and twelve games in and it can always
continue to evolve and get better and continue to reach
a higher level and to prove.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
And I think they.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Always do a good job of talking in between the play,
talking to the huddle out of practice, talking in between
periods about Hey, what occurred, what's going to come up next,
and so just to kinds of flow communication between those
two guys and the other offensive linemen.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
And I know in terms of making those protection calls,
you know, if the center isn't doing it, it's a
lot of pressure on the quarterback. If you know the
center is able to do it, takes a lot of
pressure off. But also it's a rookie. You don't want
to put too much on him. How have you guys
handled the decision of when how much for Graham to
really be the guy making some of the calls and
putting how much you put on his shoulders his rookie year.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
It's been a lot. It's been a lot we put
on his shoulders.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
In conjunction with the quarterback, I would say it relates
to making calls in the run game. With the past game,
they got to work together.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. How have you
seen Hainsey also be able to step in and kind
of help Graham get ready in this process as a
guy who also kind of got thrown into a center
position when it hadn't been what he'd done before. How
important has that leadership mentorship been for your offensive line room.

Speaker 5 (35:38):
It's been outstanding. Rob's the ultimate professional. He's been awesome
and we're very fortunate to have him.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
I know that Luke also is a guy who You've
got a lot of guys on your line that have
had to change positions at different points right in their
career and even their time here. Luke has been so
interesting for all of us to watch these last few
years of again coming into the rookie and having to
change and then go back, and it just feels like
he's at such a great place from a confidence standpoint.

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Do you see that in meeting rooms and on the
field as well, that he's finally kind of come into
his own of like, this is this is my position,
this is me I feel good about this.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
I think so.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
And he's he's been accus a confident guy from when
I first got here. Yeah, which is what you want
in the tackle position, you feel able to play with confidence.
And yeah, he certainly sees that. He's got a great
personality about him, a great way about him, very workman
like mentality, and just I think you see in his
play style on the way he plays, but he's definitely
got the right mindset and mentality for the position.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
What are his biggest strengths that kind of pertains specifically
to the tackle position?

Speaker 5 (36:39):
I would say, you know, physically, just I think his
athletic ability. He had some plays yesterday it was either
getting on in the screen game or just protection. His ability,
his ability to redirect, his strength, his ability to achre anchor,
and then his hand use, which is something every lineman
in the league is continuing to work on it and
get better at and and sharpen those skills, and he's

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continuing to do so, and you've seen him develop going
back to camp.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
I imagine also with a guy like Tristan who is
so talented and successful, what are the things that you
can still be working on with him? Because no one's
ever perfect, no one's ever done evolving. So what are
the ways that you can take someone like him who
is so talented and still be working to improve with him.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
I think with all these guys, it's just developing a
toolbox that's unique to each player. And so I've been
fortunate to be around some other tackles and all of
them are different, and each of them have a unique
skill set, and be it a right tackle or a
left tackle, and Tristan's unique in his own way in
that he's a big man with that strong he's an anchor,

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and he's got unique ability I think going back to
his wrestling background in high school in Iowa of understanding leverage,
hand use and some of those things. But I would
say with all these linemen, especially with all tackles, they're
just developing a toolbox, so to speak, of different hand use,
different tools to use against certain rushers. Because all these
rushers that we go against each week present a new

(38:08):
They have their own toolbox, yeah, that we have to
combat and apply our tools to. And so each rush
is unique. If you just go back to Okay, Genevian
Clooney this past week, and then Burns and Thibodau at
the Giants week before, both all these guys.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Present anybody this year to help you.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
So they all present, but it's like that every week,
and they all present their own set of challenges they
have to prepare for.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
How about the idea of looking back at Graham coming
out of college, what were the things you saw in
him of you know, we've talked about some of these
other guys having to move around. What are the things
that you look at in alignment that say I think
he can do this other position that maybe he's only
done it a little bit maybe he's done it. Never
we've seen that with so many of these guys that
watching their college tape at one spot and saying, I

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think you in the NFL can be this other one.
What are the things about Graham that you saw that
then just say, yeah, I think this is a guy
that can be a center and be good at it.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
Starting with just the way he played. You could see
his understanding the game, his ability to bend, the physical
traits were all there, you know, his ability to run,
his ability to bend, his ability to finish blocks, get
remove at the point of attack, all the things that
you look for. And I would just say that from
his what you saw in film at tackle in conjunction
with him playing center his freshman year in twenty twenty
at Duke, you can just see it translate to the

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center position or guard for that matter. Yeah, however it
shook out, you know, but certainly the center position is
one that where okay, this could be a spotform.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Yeah, we're talking offensive line coach Kevin Carberry. What are
the hardest things about playing center that we don't always appreciate,
and especially maybe as a.

Speaker 5 (39:44):
Rookie, just the proximity of the defensive lineman right on
top of you, and then you.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Have to secure the football.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
The ball security starts with the center quarterback exchange and
it happens on every play, and so snapping the football
to quarterback properly and then having a block to defenders
round on top of you, and then we also sometimes
you're on the salad count on the road. I would
say those are some of the things that often get
overlooked in terms of like, Okay, you can't hear the quarterback.

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You have to use the salad cadence, and you have
to execute a high level and then protect or run
block against a good defender round a top.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Of your grill.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, sounds terrible to me. I feel like I heard
recently Coach Bowles has really been bragging on Graham and
Cody together of saying that he's forgetting that there year
one and year two, guys, what is it about Cody
that you've seen that he's playing at. I know you
weren't here last year, but to see the level that
he's come to this year, the growth in him and

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knowing especially that he was a bit of a more
small school guy coming in in that transition, just just
where he's been at at this point this season.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
He's continued to get better each week and continue to
develop and just get better each way and apply the
proper technique and fundamentals that are applicable in that game
plan of Okay, this is the team we're going against,
this is how we got to attack them, these are
types of fronts we're gonna see, or the type of
player we're going against. And he says, a workman like
attitude and just prout of the ways, continue to get

(41:16):
better each week. And all these guys are very mentally tough.
You know, I wouldn't just I'd just be saying, hey,
Cody's a very mentally tough guy. But all these guys are,
and they're all good pros, and you certainly enjoyed a coach.
But Cody, like I said, for Cody and particular, has
gotten better each week as of all these guys. And
that's that's the goal. It's a long season. I continue
to develop and get better and you know, so that

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you're hitting blocks the right way and playing well.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Yeah, And how about for he and Ben Brettison, what
are some of their biggest strengths at the guard position
and what they're asked to do.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
Yeah, they're both would I would say first and foremalth
they're both very tough guys mentally and physically. And Bread's
is a little bit it. I would say, you know,
thicker than Cody at this time. Just different body types.
They all have different body types and so but I
would just say the biggest thing for those is both
very mentally and physically tough. They're smart players, and they

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communicate well with the center and the tackles next to them.
And just you mentioned earlier about the chemistry and the
chemistry for the guards. Critical the chemistry and communication that
you're talking to the center and the tackle.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, that's a big deal. All right, We're gonna take
one more break here on Buccaneers Total Access. We are
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Speaker 2 (42:41):
Welcome back into Buccaneers Total Access. We're talking to offensive
line coach Kevin Carberry. It's your first year here, and
every time we have a first year coach on we
love to hear a little bit about their background decision
to come in. So tell me what you liked about
this job. What was really appealing to you about this
this group, this coaching staff and everybody that made you
want to come in here.

Speaker 5 (42:59):
Well, just you know, I had a background with coach Cohen,
you know, going back to LA and uh, when you
could be with somebody they have familiarity with, that's always
a positive. And so there's not a steep of a
learning curve coming in with somebody in terms of just
the staff dynamic and as the offensive line coach and
the coordinator being on the same page and talking the
same language, you know, you could get on the same
page in that regard. And then it's also good to

(43:20):
know that you're working with somebody that you trust and
that you know their personality, you know what type of
man and what type of coach they is, and that
that makes it easier. And then certainly from Afar going
against the Bucks, you know, help what type of program
this is. There's smart, tough, physical players here and uh,
just ess as you know that it's good you're going
into a good program.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, how about what is about Liam's scheme that a
works really well for the offensive line. You know, what
do you what do you guys like about coaching in it?

Speaker 5 (43:49):
I would just say that, you know, Liam does a
great job of putting guys in a position to be
successful running backs, receivers, offensive line, and we're always conscious
of that when we're game planning and as it relates
to the offense as a whole. It's something that we
have a familiar background with and it's something we both
believe in and then, like I says, ultimately as a well,
finding ways to put the guys in a position to
be successful.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
You mentioned your stop in LA with him in general,
take us through kind of you your coaching route of
how you got to this point, because you're one of
the people that I love that has the high school
to college and the pro experience. You've done it. You've
coached at all the levels, done all the things. Tell
me kind of how we got to this point.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
Yes, So I started coaching high school ball in Chicago
in the off season of playing in the Arena Football League.
It was just one of the things in my earliest
twenties and I was doing. And I worked at a
Calloh High School in Chicago and coach football there. Coached
everything and enjoyed it, and then got my foot in
the door in college football at University Kansas as your
graduate assistant and some stops there. And I was fortunate
to get my foot in the door at the Dallas

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Cowboys on Jason Garrett staff in twenty fourteen as an
offensive assistant. It was at the Washington Commanders at the
time with as the assistant the line coach there with
Bill Callahan, who was the old line coach in Dallas.
He brought me there and he's certainly a mentor of mine,
you know, they're from there. I was able to go
to Stanford as the offensive line coach with coach Shawn
you know, and then from there went to the Rams

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with coach McVay, who I was with previously at the Redskins.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yeah, that's so, I mean amazing that so many different stops,
and then hearing the Arena League. You also played in
NFL Europe, I.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Believe, Yeah, NFL Europe. It was.

Speaker 5 (45:16):
The training camp was actually right here in Tampa. The
hotel we stayed at was right across the street from
Jefferson High School.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
It's no longer there.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
I believe it was, uh say Double Tree maybe, Yeah,
it was right by the the Charlie Steakhouse there. Yeah, yeah,
right right across from Jefferson High School. That's and it
was perhaps of the soccer field somewhere.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
I don't remember.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
I know we did some scrimmagers at the University of Tampa,
but all six of the NFL Europe teams did their
training camp right here in Tampa.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
That's crazy. Yeah, So for you the playing experience of
doing you know, being around the NFL, being around the
arena in the NFL Europe, and I mean obviously college,
so many different stops and then so many different stops
coaching too. How did all those different experiences kind of
affect the type of coach you are? There are things
you've pulled from all these different experiences that have influenced you.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
Yea, absolutely.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
I mean everybody's a product of their past experiences and
you learn from you take away all the good things
and you can learn from. Okay, maybe I do some
things differently here, and I've been fortunate to be around
a lot of good coaches that have you know, learned
from and sutly learn a lot from the all the
coaches here, coach Bowls and all the other coaches on
our staff here as well. And it's not necessarily just

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specific to a position, but also Okay, how to approach
a player about something, how to coach guys, what's the
right demeanor to have with certain players, or whatever it
may be. There's all kinds of things you can learn
from coaches on either side of the ball, you name it.
But yeah, I've been fortunate to be around a lot
of coaches and good coaches.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
That I've taken a lot from.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
I'm talking offensive line coach Kevin Carvery, who are obviously
obviously all your Bucks players are the best guys you've
ever coached outside of the Bucks. Who are some of
the best guys you've got a coach or just players
that you're like, oh, like this is this is cool
to watch this guy.

Speaker 5 (46:53):
Yeah, there's a lot to mention I was. I was
fortunate to be around a lot of a lot of
good players. One of the guys always get a hard
time about this. I talked abut my first gut in
the late Jason Witten was playing for the Cowboys, and
so he was a great one of the all time
great tenants of all time and a great professional, and
I referred him to the on line once in a
while and.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
They kind of see it coming. They've heard it once
or twice, you know.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
And you know that my first year in Dallas, the
Cowboys drafted Zach Martin in the first round. He was
school had been around him, was a rookie, he was
he was a great player. And then went to Washington.
Brandis Sheriff was there. That was his second year. He
was the second year guard. He was playing a really
high level. And Trent Williams was there. He's still he
still going, He's still going. And so there's some good players.

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I was fortunate to be a really enjoyed coaching and
at Drew Dollman at Stanford's playing you know in Atlanta,
and I really.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Enjoyed coaching him as well.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
That's great. How about on the flip side, some of
the hardest guys you've had to game plan for that
just them by themselves have the potential to be tough.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
Probably have to say Pretz And against Aaron Donald was
a challe certainly a challenge un dexter at the Giants
s last a couple of weeks ago. He's a challenging
gott to go against. Special player, got a ton of
respect for him. Bosa and San Fran went against you
know quite a few times. A really special player and
a challenge to go against as well.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
You know.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
But like I said, each week presents a different set
of challenges. We'll have another one coming up this week
with Max Crush.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
That was going to be my next question that this
is a this is a guy that is just wild
to watch. Tell me what he's like to game plan for.
How unique he is of a player to try to
match up with.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
Sure, I would say the biggest thing about max Is
is his physical conditioning level is off the charts.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
The guy doesn't stop.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
I mean, I don't know how many games he's played
this year where he played every snap, which is rare
for a defensive end. And just the energy with which
he plays is off the charts. He's a unique guy.
He's a very unique pass rusher. There's not many guys
that have his skill set or his game like him.
In some ways is like a knuckleball pitcher. You don't
know where that yeah, you don't know where that pitches
can fall. And so he's certainly presented a certain challenge

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for us this week.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Do you since your players get extra excited when there
is someone like that they're going to go against, like
somebody that is pretty known or you know, accepted to
be really good around the league. Do you see it
get them maybe a little extra fired up.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
I think there's a certain challenge with it the guys
you got excited about, But like I said, mean there's
challenges every week, and it just in terms of the
interior line we went against starting with Washington with Jonathan
Allen and Doron Payne, you know Zach Allen and Denver
Elee McNeil, and Detroit Jalen and Philly, those two defensive
tackles of Philly were a challenge to go against. And
it's every week, And like I said, each week presents

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a special challenge.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
What about the rest of the Raiders defensive front outside
of him? What are the things that stand out to
you about them and things you're gonna have to look
out for.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
They play hard, They're big, physical group up front. Got
a lot of respect for the linebacker's Bulane and the
other linebacker Diablo, and they play hard. They present a
lot of different looks that we're gonna prepare for. And
it's it's going to be another week of a special
challenge for us.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
I know that for you know, some of the different
position groups or coaches, there are specific goals that you
guys set for your group, whether it's per game or
for the season. Do you guys have anything like that
or how do you sort of assess or set up
the things that you want your group to be able
to achieve?

Speaker 5 (50:19):
You know, I think for us it's not necessarily a
specific number or anything like that. You just want to
put good film on tape and you know what it
looks like and you can't quantity. There's certainly I mean,
certainly with running the ball, I'm protecting quarterback, there's numbers
associated with yards per carry, sacks, pressures, hits, yards per game,

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whatever that may be. That's certainly a statistic, right, But
to me, what's more important is process over results. Is
that like we're putting good stuff on tape, hitting our
blocks the right way in the run game, we're protecting well,
we're finishing plays, we're playing hard, and that when you
put the good stuff on tape, it's recognizable to me,
is what the ultimate goals was most important. That like

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when other teams put our tape on they say, hey,
this is a physical group. These guys finished blocks, they
protect well, they play together, They're on the same page,
and so while that's hard might not be able to quantify,
you can see it when it's in tape.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Do you feel like you have someone on the line
that you would say is the most improved so far
the season, or maybe even just one thing the line
has done well that has improved throughout the year.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
I would just say, fundamentally, I think the guys have
We've gotten better in terms of just how we come
off the ball on a combination, how we play. I
think our passport technique fund amounts of continue to improve.
I think I wouldn't say one guy's improved over another.
I think as a whole, I think the guys have
improved in some weeks. It hasn't been perfect. Some weeks
it hasn't, you know, been great. But I think over

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the course of the season, I think the guys have
certainly worked very hard to continue to get better and
then continue to work on community. Like we mentioned earlier,
communication at the line of scrimmage, in the meeting room,
on the practice field, so that chemistry is continuing to
evolve and continue to develop, trying to facilitate that and
keep that going because, like I said, those are the
guys you know, in between the lines. They got to

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communicate with one another and do a good job doing
so well.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Coach, thank you so much for your time. I really
do appreciate it and it was great to have you
on here.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
Absolutely, thank you.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
All right, that's going to do it for us on
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