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In this episode, we dive into Chapter 5 of the book, a powerful reflection on preparation, faith, and God's timely provision. Though the shortest chapter in the book, it's one of the most impactful—highlighting the heart behind celebrating your wins with humility and learning to prepare with excellence while leaving the outcome to God.
We break down the "153 Season"—a symbolic reference to the miraculous catch of fish in John 21. It's more than a number—it's a reminder that God blesses us with exactly what we can handle, no more, no less. Richie shares a transparent journey through seasons of scarcity and seasons of abundance, explaining how God uses both to mold us.
From construction metaphors and Proverbs 21:31 ("The horse is made ready for battle, but victory belongs to the Lord") to COVID-era pivoting and navigating business with faith, this conversation is filled with leadership gold.
We also explore:
* What it means to prepare like a warrior but trust like a child
* How to celebrate wins without losing sight of the One who gave them
* The story of diligence + obedience = divine alignment
* What Peter’s jump off the boat teaches us about prioritizing the blesser over the blessing
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
we're in chapter five of the book, which talks about
um, the swim, and primarily theconcept of the 153 season, um,
but to start off, talk to meabout preparation, preparation
(00:50):
um, yeah, this chapter, I think,was very important to um inject
something that was a sense ofall the hard work you're putting
in and where God rewards thosethose things.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So we wanted to have a.
I think it's the shortestchapter in the book.
Oh, is it?
Yeah.
It's the shortest chapter inthe book, but it's the one that
kind of shares all the accoladesof our company.
And not, I don't know if we madethe shortest intentionally it
might just be me just trying toget over it real quick.
But not to, to.
But see, that's the thing is.
We need to celebrate our wins,you know, and uh, and, and this
(01:27):
book intentionally shares aheart position.
Uh educates us on, like, youknow, release, shares my journey
on when god, you know I don'tknow what's the right word, but
like, and I have a hard timewith uh when you, well, you know
, like, in sharing that, becauseI never want to take glory for
(01:49):
ourselves.
So the book was like,intentional on structuring how
to position our hearts when Goddoes show up and bless you.
There you go.
You know, it's like it's like Idon't know, just my whole life
man, Like I've been in someamazing opportunities, right,
(02:30):
no-transcript.
Like John the Baptist says, youknow he must increase while I
decrease, and I've always hadthat heart of just.
You know, it's always been ahard for me to like share when
something goes well, and so thisbook, in this chapter, really
(02:50):
helped me like understand thosemoments when the blessings are
there and how to, how tocelebrate your wins.
So that's really what thischapter is is um sets the tone
of, uh, that heart position.
But what you asked waspreparation, I think is the key
to any kind of blessing with God.
(03:11):
There's a scripture in the bookProverbs 21, 31,.
The horse is ready for battleand victory is of the Lord.
That says a lot to me about,like when I'm in a construction
business, right?
So we have to do a lot ofpreparation and pre-construction
and most people think like, oh,here's the design, here's a
here's, here's the drawings,let's, let's go yeah.
(03:34):
Can you guys start next week?
And I always got to pausepeople.
I mean even in like a threemillion dollar project.
We get things signed.
We go through all thenegotiations and the contract
contract.
We get that thing signed.
They're ready to start in twoweeks.
And I'm like whoa, there's a lotof preparation.
Um, I mean, going from justcontractual, we sign with a
(03:55):
client, we got to start signingwith all the subcontractors.
There's trade agreements theygot to go out and final
negotiations get them locked infiguring out their timings, and
then you do that like 20 timesand then you take all those
schedules, pump them into yourschedule and figure out how the
best alignment is withmilestones that you can't miss,
to make sure those get in place.
You got to look in permitting,make sure that stuff's aligned
(04:16):
and getting all those things inplace.
You got to check with vendorsand lead times.
When you purchase somethingyou're on an Island and it's
some stuff takes eight to 12weeks.
You got to take those lines ifyou pay for that at this certain
time and when that aligns.
So it's just like all thispreparation man.
You got to go to the lot and dopreparation.
You got to mobilize, you got todo all this stuff, and so for
you to even start, man, it'slike it's the saying of an
(04:39):
airplane takes 80 fuel.
I don't know this is correct.
I just don't know if this iscorrect.
I just don't know, but anairplane takes about 80% of its
fuel to get in the air and thenthe rest of it is just glide
mode.
You know what I'm saying.
So that's the same thing withconstruction, but that's the
same thing in leadership andlife and with business is like
you know, preparation is key.
There's things there's sayingsof, you know, preparation meets
(05:02):
opportunity and I believe thatGod has opportunities out there.
Without us preparing andputting in the work you know
it's, those opportunities can bemissed and because there's, you
know there's a certain ladderor stair or pathway.
You got to get to the certaindoor and if you don't do what
you need to do, you may neverland at that door.
(05:22):
There is this movie in the bookthat I referenced, facing the
giants, and this pastor wastalking with the football coach.
He was just like going througha meltdown.
Like you know, I guess his wifecan't have kids anymore, bills
are at their final.
Like he's about to lose hishouse.
His car broke down, the thefootball team's losing.
(05:43):
He happened to hear that.
You know they're gonna fire himhe's getting everything, man
he's like dude, he's just likehe's a mess and he's just
sitting there and, uh, this, uhlike school pastor came like
coming through and he waspraying on all the lockers and
he just comes into his officeand he kind of gave him a story.
Man, he was just like there'stwo farmers, you know, and both
(06:07):
of them prayed for rain, butonly one of them actually
prepared the field and when therain came, who you think got the
crop?
And so I think that momentshifted and spoke to him like,
oh man, I need, I need to go towar, I need to prepare, I need.
Like, in his head was like Ihaven't been seeking God, I
(06:30):
haven't been like going at thisa different way.
I just kind of used my way andcame to an end, but I just kind
of stuck there.
And so, preparation, when youhear that scripture again, you
know, proverbs 21, 31 is, uh,horses prepared for battle, but
victories of the lords man, Ithink about, like, I really
think about that time, you know,like, if you're watching the
(06:51):
movie vikings or some of thoseold, old movies, they get on
horses and go to war, braveheartwith mel gibson, whatever you
know um, like just watchingthose movies and just just
thinking about them gettingready to go to war, right, and
so on the horse.
That means they got to travelto where they're going to get
ready for the battle, orwhatever the case is.
(07:12):
And so you can imagine they'rethinking all right, if this
scenario happens, like you know,if I got to fight a samurai guy
and he's coming with a sword,how am I going to block that?
So I'm going to need thisshield, you know Right right,
I'm not going to block that.
So I'm going to need this shield.
You know like they're thinkinglike, OK, if I'm in this, I'm in
a position where the guys arepulling out.
You know, this kind of weapon,this is how I need defense, this
is how I'm going to fight if Ifall on the ground yeah, so they
(07:33):
got.
Oh, but if I'm on the ground,if it's muddy is it raining
today?
So yeah, I probably should wearthese, kind Cause I know over
there they got the high weedsand I'm trying to trip when I'm
trying to fight, you know.
So what's happening is they'repreparing themselves for every
scenario before they get on thathorse and make sure the horse
can carry all these differentyou know, tools and just
(07:55):
different things that couldhappen.
And so I imagine, like when theyget on the horse, at that point
it's, it's heavy.
There's some things that theythey're like okay, I got to
prioritize now, you know okay.
Okay, I can't carry all this,I'm not even gonna make it, so
let's take these little thingsoff, I'm gonna keep these.
And so, anyway, long storyshort, they're getting headed
out to war, but the scripture issaying get your horse ready for
(08:15):
battle.
So that's what I just shared,but victories of the lord, and
so, um, it's a heart, postureand a perspective to do all you
know to do and let God do therest.
And that's really like theheart of my work ethic, the
heart of this chapter.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, Would you say that?
Would you call preparation aresponsibility at this?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good way to uh ask.
It's uh, it's stewardship ofwhat god's given you.
So, going back on like as anowner versus steward,
stewardship is takingresponsibility with all the
resources parenting god's takingyou to life and utilizing those
to the best of your ability.
So, yeah, I do think it's aresponsibility to do everything
(09:02):
you know to do before.
Because you know, there's thatother like story of the guy who
prayed to God every day Like hewanted to win the lottery.
Yeah, like man, I need themoney.
Man, look at my situation.
I need, I need the lottery'sexact amount.
I need.
Lord, please, let me win thelottery.
Pray every day, every day.
Pray, lord, let me win thelottery, let me win the lottery,
(09:23):
let me win the lottery.
And then finally he startedgetting upset, man, because the
lottery came here and went.
So he was just like.
So his next prayer was like God, he started pulling out
scripture.
Like man, yours says ask and itwill be given.
Like I asked man, like you know, and all this stuff.
And then God spoke and he waslike oh, you the lottery?
(09:43):
Like I was about to give it toyou, but guess what, man, you
never went and bought a ticket.
So you know, I say that to saylike it is our responsibility to
do all we need to do, becausethat's what unlocks the door for
God's opportunities, you know.
And so a lot of times we don'tknow what those are, but we just
need to do everything we needwe know to do, and that's the
(10:05):
key to God's doorways that hehas for us.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
That's cool because I think of it in.
I've heard relationship advicebefore where it's like, okay,
you want this particular partnerin your life, you want this
girl right, and you have allthese things that you prefer in
this person, but then you don'tlike, you just look for it and
(10:29):
you ask, but you don't evenprepare yourself to be the right
person for them.
It's funny because it's like,yeah, you got to, you know, get
a good job or work on yourhealth or whatever.
It is like you know and whenthe opportunity comes aka the
girl you try to, you know, talkto her or whatever, and like she
(10:52):
doesn't to her, you're notprepared.
In a sense You're not the rightguy for her because you're not
at the place where you know youshould be at or you know.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Does that make sense?
Oh no, you're nailing it, man,because we're.
I'm talking about war, but Ithink it also relates to
business, it relates to yourmarriage, it relates to being a
parent, like we need to do allwe know to do for your child,
right?
Yes, you know in every case,and I you know it's.
It's a bummer when I seesometimes and I mean I'm, I fell
in it too, but it's like youknow, the safety of the child's,
(11:19):
everything.
It's our responsibility to notthink about we're overdoing, but
but to set them up for success.
So, yeah, and not to burnanybody out on that thought, but
God has equipped us withexactly what we need in
knowledge resources for everysingle day.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
What I want to pause you there, but what you said was
actually big Cause.
I feel like parents willespecially new, new parents will
tend to worry about a situationversus being prepared for it.
I think that's huge man.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Well, that's the key of that.
Scripture is like we can't letworry and burnout weigh us down,
and there's a scripture aboutGod taking that.
And this is how it's thatscripture it's do everything you
know to do, but victories arethe Lord.
Yeah, that's the key.
That's the key.
The key is I'm doing everythingI can to do to protect my child
(12:10):
.
But now that I've doneeverything with the resources
that I've stewarded with my mindand everything that God has
given me and parents me to beable to be that parent, now I
need to know and trust victoriesof the Lord and that kid's safe
.
I don't need to worry nowbecause I did everything I need
to do.
Now, if you don't do everythingthat you know to do, trust me
(12:31):
that the world is set up to hurtyour child.
Yes, you know, and so God canprotect and God will.
But it is our responsibilityand duty to do everything that
we know to do.
That's good, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
That's cool because it does relate to everything.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It does, man it does.
And so to carry it back tobusiness, I think when the
greatest storms come or certainthings happen in business, or
whatever the case is like whenyou're preparing for war, you
want to be able to do everythingyou know to do in business.
You have 20 tasks.
You have eight hours.
You got to prioritize thosetasks.
(13:07):
You got to put them up on aboard, put them in your, your
notepad, whatever it is, and if,if the top five get done, you
did all you know you can do forthat day.
You can't conquer everything ineight hours.
You got to honor your eighthours, but do everything you
know to do.
Now.
Don't go on youtube and watch,watch podcasts for an hour when
you could be doing your tasks.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
You know what I'm saying you ain't talking to me,
dog.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
But see, that's, I think, to carry that home to one
single word, that's diligence.
Diligence is doing everythingyou know to do, and so it's our
responsibility to honor ourtimes and the times that we have
, for, whatever that case is,and do what we know to do, and
God will win the war, for youWill win.
Whatever that case is, and do,do what we know to do, and God
will win the war for you.
We'll win.
Whatever the battle is, or thevictory is going to be there.
(13:49):
Well said, bro.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Moving on.
There's a next chapter.
A portion of the chapter iscalled the right side of the
boat and it's a.
It's a story of Jesus tellingthe.
I was going to say the homiesthe disciples, hey, try this
side.
Homies the disciples, hey, trythis side, as small as it is.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
The change is right.
Yeah, it's huge, but can youtalk to me about that?
Well, just for the listeners tokind of break down the story a
bit, but this is time frame andcontext.
This is after jesus diedalready.
So jesus had died.
The disciples, peter, and thecrew, the fishermen crew, where
they haven't seen Jesus sincehis death.
So in their understanding he'sstill dead.
(14:30):
Yes, right, so that's like thecontext of the situation.
And so they have been fishermen.
They're professional fishermen.
They know the waters, they knowtheir boat, they know the
equipment.
They're like you put me on aconstruction site, man, that's
my world, that's my tribe,that's my arena.
I'm a professional, I amliterally a professional when it
comes to building homes.
(14:51):
That's what they are.
They're professional in theirfield and they're going out
fishing and guess what?
They're not catching fish,which is kind of it happens, but
odd for somebody who'sprofessional in that trade and
does it for a living to just notcatch any fish.
So that can already put aweight.
But the fact that who?
The moment that they're goingout, I don't think they've been
(15:11):
fishing like that for a long,for probably three years,
because they've been walkingwith Jesus, but now that Jesus
died there.
Guess what?
Guess what they're doing?
They're going back to their oldways because they don't know
what else to do right now.
So they're going back out to dowhat they got to do with this
get some fish and just goingback into survival mode.
You know what I mean.
But guess what?
There's no fish.
And they're getting ready towrap up for the day.
And this is a similar storywhen Peter first met Jesus.
(15:32):
So when Peter first met Jesus,it was almost a similar story.
So here they are same storygetting ready to wash their nets
, you know.
And then Jesus kind of yellsout close enough, he's on shore.
And from their perspective thisis like some strange random guy
.
Hey, just throw it on the otherside, no offended.
(15:53):
I would have been like, ok, notlike, go to, you know these
waters at this beach, you know,hey, actually there's some fish
over on the other side of themountain, right over there, you
know.
It's more like like yo, right,where, where your boat is, where
you've been stressing all daychecking for fish.
You, you guys, are tired,you're, you're dead, you're
already washing your nets,you're putting things away.
But just right there.
(16:14):
But on the other side of theboat, I'd have been like fool,
get out of here.
Yeah, get out of here, man.
But um, the voice theyrecognized.
Wait a minute, minute, whatvoice is that?
I've been around that voice forthree years.
I recognize that accent, Irecognize that voice.
And that's when diligence meetsobedience.
(16:35):
So you can be diligent,diligent, diligent, but not be
obedient.
So obedience is when God speaksand gives you what you need to
do.
I could have all the greatesttools, ray.
I could have your best.
To me, my favorite, like sitejob site, uh, table saw is a
dewalt.
(16:55):
Like.
I love the dewalt.
Table saw, the chop saw, youcan have all the best.
Yeah, I'm a milwaukee guy,though, when it comes to the
battery tools.
So.
So I got all my tools and allthese things Festool, vacuum,
festool chop saw on site.
I can look like the man.
But guess what, man?
I've had guys bring all thisstuff, set everything up and we
(17:16):
ain't got no power.
Battery's dead.
Whatever reason, the power goesout, you're done, man, doesn't
matter how decorated your toolsare right.
So I think diligence meets.
Obedience is when you take oneof your construction tools and
plug it into the power, man, andthen that's when it's game on.
So that's what happened, man.
(17:37):
They heard the voice of theLord, they recognized the voice
from having a relationship withthem and they were obedient.
They did all they knew they cando.
But what?
I'm?
Why?
I'm?
Why this is very importantbecause you're out there and
you're like man.
Richie said just do all I needto do and victory's mine.
True, do all you need to do,but guess what?
There are times you'll be onthe boat, just like peter and
those fishermen.
(17:58):
You did everything you know todo, you, you followed your old
list and guess what?
You?
You sitting there with nothing.
So yeah, richie's wrong.
Do all you need to do, butvictories of the Lord when you
plug into the power.
So when diligence meets, meetsobedience.
That's the key.
That actually, that's when yourkey, the key right Is is is is
(18:20):
your diligence, grabbing thetools and resources you know,
and obedience is where to putand what door to put it in.
It unlocks and opens the door.
So with that story, man, uh,yeah, they put it on the other
side and they said it says thefish.
There were so many, theabundance was so high they
couldn't even handle the amountof fish, but the net never broke
(18:43):
.
So whatever they could fit inthe net, fully maxed out of
abundance and blessings, man, uh, they couldn't, it couldn't
even.
It couldn't, it didn't evenbreak the net.
So it was like it was such asignificant, like blessing, like
it was.
It's like I knew how muchblessing you can handle before
your net burst.
(19:04):
So I I think there's like two,two sides of the the, the fence.
There's one where there's somuch stress, weight, life bills,
not pay, you know business,shutting down, so much like on
the negative side, weight, thatGod will say I won't give you
more than you can handle, togive you faith and assurance
that I'm going to put youthrough the fire, I'm going to
(19:28):
apply pressure in your life tostrengthen you and to bring you
back up, but I'm not more thanyou can handle.
But then the other side of thefence I think it's the same
thing with abundance he's goingto give you, bless you, but not
to detour you into like materialworld or to you know, you just
start going into addiction orlust or different things because
(19:48):
there's just too much abundance, you know.
And so I think there's bothsides that God can allow storms
to strengthen you and alsoabundance to strengthen you but
not give you more than you canhandle.
And that's what that scriptureand that story specifically
speaks to me is like there wasso much fish, but just enough
for the net that they can bringback to shore what you said
(20:10):
about, um, enough to enough toyou know, not derail you or or
get you too high.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You know, know, big-headed or whatnot, but I
feel like on another section Iguess of that.
I guess what I'm asking is howdo you protect yourself from
knowing if it's an abundance ornot, or it's a test?
You know what I mean.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, I think for me, going into Peter's reaction
when that happened, I think hisposture and his heart he didn't
even like when they caught thefish he didn't even like, I
don't think he realized what washappening, he just responded to
hearing the voice and so hejumped off the boat and swam to
(21:02):
Jesus and, just kind of like,left his team to to grab the
fish, and so I think his posturein his heart was number one is
when I was, me and Tiffany werein a season where things felt
like that season where theabundance was happening, we're
winning awards, we were, youknow, being recognized
nationally, we were getting anyjob we wanted.
I mean it was just like the netjust was like we're grabbing
(21:24):
everything, I mean everythingyou could think of was happening
that you would want in asuccessful, you know,
residential constructionbusiness.
But for me, man, I think me andTiffany know that I don't know
if I have the key to recognizingwhen it's abundance test or
blessing, to recognizing whenit's abundance test or blessing,
(21:45):
but I believe our heartposition can help give us the
lens and filter to see that,because I believe God gives to a
cheerful giver.
So what that means to me is ifyou have a cup and he's going to
pour blessings into it has tobe able to overflow into
somebody else.
Pour blessings into it has tobe able to overflow into
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somebody else.
And so if you're trying to justcontain it, I I believe that it
for me is like the.
It's a heart check, like, okay,what am I doing with this?
Like, am I worshiping it?
Number one am I chasing it?
Number two am I hoarding it?
So I think those three would belike a personal good, uh, yeah,
like a gauge for me to see.
Okay, or am I grateful, am Igiving and I don't have another
(22:31):
g?
Um, am I grateful, am I givingand?
Um, yeah, I don't have anotherg but that's good.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Uh, you answered the question on the dot Richie,
which is, you know, beinggrateful, like what Peter said,
I think.
Coming back to just anyblessing, and I think you talk
about it here briefly, it's,like you know, always being
grateful for the abundance orwhatever blessing that comes in,
(23:01):
abundance or whatever blessingthat comes in.
You mentioned that Peter wasmore focused on the blesser and
not the gift or the giver, andnot the gift, and there's a
portion here as well where it'staking a step back.
You know, when Jesus called outto Peter and them not knowing,
you know, as when someone youdon't know or but guess to him
(23:24):
it was he recognized the voice.
But for someone to take advice,um, from some random person,
and for your pride not to gethurt or whatnot, that must be
tough for you know.
How do you even?
Do you trust that voice or doyou just be like, hey, let's
just change it up and listen tothis random guy?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Well, yeah, I mean it could.
And I think I put in the bookin that kind of picture where it
was like, hey, there's thisrandom guy telling you to just
throw it on the other side.
But I believe also that whenyou carry a relationship with
the builder of all things, thatwhen he does speak, you
recognize who it's coming from,you know what I mean.
(24:05):
You'll have that filter ofunderstanding, that tone, that
that authority, that you knowall the things that you've.
They've walked with him forthree years.
So they had this relationship toknow, like, oh wait, I know
that voice, yeah, like this isfamiliar grounds, like, and so I
think their faith played.
But also I think theirrelationship played a role too
(24:27):
of being able to, you know,discern that you know it could
have been some random guy likesetting them up to do something
that they, hey, you need to goon this side and over there.
Actually, you know they couldhave died, you know, but, um, I
think there are just things inrelationship that they had that
just kind of helped themunderstand, like where that,
(24:49):
where that call was coming fromand where that message was
coming from towards the endingof the chapter, richie, there's
a concept that you introduce,which is the amount of fish that
they caught and how specific itwas, and it's called one3
season.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, yeah, can you walk me through that?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
going through our business journey.
You know, I, in my relationshipwith god, I, you know, in
different seasons, I'mconstantly studying the word and
when I was reading this storystory, it really felt like God
was like I had this question manlike why 153?
I don't, you know, like oddnumbers.
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When you do that, especially inyou know, it's kind of like in
business, right In contracting,I can say, hey, the houses, uh,
to build your house is going tobe one, 1.2 million.
Oh, okay, cool, it's like roundup, it's good to go.
But if I'm like, yeah, to buildyour house is 1.237, you know,
or you know 762.21 cents,they're going to be like, oh man
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, that's specific, specific.
So we actually used thatstrategy when me and my wife
bought a home.
When, uh, we're in negotiationstrying to buy a house and you
know they they wouldn't go belowa certain number, yeah, and so
you know, when you make an offer, you make a number and then so
we actually like, threw in avery specific number in there
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and it actually aligned with, uh, romans 828.
So we threw 828 in there, kindof like the number than 828,
yeah, and it, and we sent it off, we prayed and just trust God
that all things work togetherfor good, if this is what you
want.
And then he came back andoffered it and it was well below
the number he would say hewouldn't go below.
But I think what happened is itfelt like we took all the money
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out of our pocket, put it allon a pile, everything was on our
dresser, and we just added itup and that was the number.
Because even our realtor waslike hey, that's such a specific
number, like why not just roundit up?
He said in the realtor world weusually round this up just to
make the math easier foreverybody.
Can we just round this up?
And we're like no, we're like,we prayed about this, this is
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the number and this prayed aboutthis, this is the number and
this is what we're gonna sendoff.
So we sent it off and and heaccepted.
And you know the positionbehind that was like oh, number
one, just trusting god put allthose things, but why?
I shared that it was just sucha specific number.
I think it spoke to him sayinglike we believe that he was like
man, this I don't think they'regonna come back with another
offer.
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I think this was like all moneyon the table.
And so he was like this weprobably put him in a position
where he felt like I gotta takethis or not take it, and so he
ended up taking it.
So when I look at the fish, Ifeel the same way.
It's like 153 fish, like that'ssuch a specific number.
that's not like a roundup number, because we do that right, we
round up things to make easiermath, and I'm pretty sure they
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did that back then, but it was153 and I could just like I
always like put myself in thosepositions where I was on the
boat with peter and all theseguys and then they pull the net
up, you know, and he jumps out,he changed jesus, like all this,
and then the guys, they, theycome out, they round up all the
fish and they're like pulling itback and then here jesus is,
he's on shore and then they'repulling and they count all the
fish and it was like 153recorded, boom.
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So that 153 is what I want to.
You know I wanted to.
It spoke to me saying that doall you know you can do, god
will do the rest.
God will also open doors foropportunity when you follow, you
know your diligence, and andwhen you're obedient, he'll open
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the doors that he wants you tostep through, but also close the
ones that he doesn't want youin.
So it's like, imagine if youhave four streams, four roads,
you're like which one should Igo down?
He's going to make a tree fallon two of them and then the
other one, a truck's going tocome, turn, park and there's
going to be some blockings.
Only be one open.
That's the one.
So I believe 153 season isbasically our prayer, is our
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prayer to god open the doors youwant to open and close the ones
you want closed and same asthose fish.
We want 153 fish that you wantus to bring to shore and the
ones that don't make it.
Praise god.
So it was a heart of gratitudeand thankfulness.
For when we lose jobs too, you,you know saying okay, we, we,
we know that fish didn't make itto shore, only 153 did.
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An abundance of 153 is alsopart of that.
One, five, three season is whenyou're following, you know God,
and being diligent and tryingto be obedient as much as
possible, and he blesses youwith abundance.
He's blessing with you what youcan handle and then getting rid
of the fish that you can'thandle.
And that's to me is one, five,three man.
It's like he's gonna get youyour maximum capacity to shore,
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but the ones you couldn't handle, he just let them keep swimming
and that's good.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
That comes in a form of uh, in the previous years
with, with atn um, right beforethe big change in the world
which was COVID time Right, andI know you have a story that I
don't know if you want to getinto it, but it seems like that
was the lane that God opened upand it was like there were
multiple lanes and, like youwere mentioning, just things
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shut down and then this wasspecifically, everything just
worked out, and I don't know ifyou want to dive into that.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I mean, yeah, just real quick, quick, just
tangibleness in reality of ourbusiness.
And where this really came toplay, I mean covid, I mean we're
, we're growing.
You know, 2017, 18, 19 we wereon like this little growth spurt
nothing crazy, but you know, uh, we we had, you know, we won
our first luxury job.
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I think it was close to twomillion, which I think the
projects before that weresignificantly lower.
Yeah, so I mean, that was hugefor us.
So we were prepping and gettingthat one to get started.
I think it just started.
And then, all of a sudden, man,you know, I think we had maybe
30, 40 projects going on.
You know, a good amount of teamsworking with us and just things
flowing the COVID app buteverything shut down.
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Yeah, now you know me andTiffany both, you know, coming
from two house fires and I wantto say poverty setting, but
poverty setting, man growing up,and, yeah, and the sense of not
third world country but Americapoverty setting, and and
Tiffany living on the beach alsocoming up with us.
We just had no resources,nothing when we started our
company no money, no people toask for money.
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We didn't have any of that, youknow, we had nobody to reach
out to for any kind of resourcereally.
So everything was just from godor from us, just, you know,
trying to make it through.
And so when everything shut down, man, we're, we're almost like
everything we did was almost agamble, because the funds were
always like right there andtrying to grow, and so we,
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basically, we were just payingourselves just enough to get by,
and everything that was evenclose to profitable would go
back into the business to growit to a point to where we wanted
to get it and be able tosurvive this luxury.
So it was just tight as it was.
It was just tight, but we werebeing extra diligent, you know,
and in that season, I think wewere way ahead of the game using
technology.
We were using platforms thatwere CRMs, you know, project
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management, customer related,you know, management platforms.
The architects we work withwere digital blueprints, and
this is 2019 now.
So, you know, we were alreadydoing video calls.
Yeah, and nobody was reallydoing video calls.
We had to, like, you know, kindof teach them how to use it,
and so we're using virtualreality for our design.
So we're just one of thosecompanies trying to be a little
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tech heavy in the front, knowingthat this is where the future
is going.
We didn't, we just didn't knowlike it was coming so soon.
Yeah, so when covid happened,the whole world shut down.
We all know this.
But but for me it was like, ohmy gosh, like every client of
our thing, we had 30 somethingprojects say, we're, we're not
working, we can't do anythingnow, but I just I got, I got my
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office to pay, I got my manager.
You know, I'm just like I can't, I can't afford this even a
couple weeks, like this is crazy, like, yeah, we're about to
shut down, like you know, and sowe're just burning the fuel,
trying to think.
And then I felt like thosefishermen, like on the boat man
just not catching the thing, man, I was just like we're about to
hang the nets, you know.
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And so in that moment, man, youknow, we felt a leading from God
and a voice from God to saythrow your net on the other side
, you know, on the right side.
And so so we did, and tangibly,that meant like coming up with
a battle plan how we can execute, survive COVID.
This is in literally February,right Of 2020.
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Like, this wasn't like sixmonths later, this was the month
everyone shut down.
We wrote a whole battle plan onhow we would execute in the
field with COVID, withseparation, with all our workers
, with masks, with shields.
We had to give people breathingroom, to go out for like 10
minutes, come back in and work.
We just came up with a wholegame plan and put it all out on
paper.
We didn't have chat, gpt backthen.
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We just put all this stuff out.
Our managers we had actuallycreated this like seating zone
in our office where we couldhave meetings and there was like
six feet separate.
It was all this stuff beforeeven the six feet separation.
What thing was even out?
We were just kind of like howcan we operate in this matter?
And so, um, we were doingresearch and learning like, oh
wait, a minute, we'reconstruction.
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Guys actually can work.
They're considered, you knowwell, I forget the term was back
then, but essential.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I think it was.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
And so we had put together memos for all our
subcontractors who are just fearcrazy of going out because you
know everything we're seeing onYouTube in China, like man,
those guys are dropping likeflies I ain't trying to catch no
COVID, you know.
So we're all at this fearfactor going and all the clients
responded like no, I'm likedang.
So we did all that diligence,you know, and set our, got the
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horse ready for battle and sentit out, man and uh.
And we got one client thatcalled us and said green light,
go, man, yeah, go out of the 30,out of the 30.
And it was our luxury projectbecause they were still in the
mainland, they weren't here, youknow.
And so they were like man, go,you have the house, it's yours,
man, get it done.
So I called all, I sent out thememos to the subs and told them
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the game plan.
I let all the employees knowand everyone was like, yeah, we
need work, man.
So like, if you guys are greenlight, all their projects were
shut down.
So all of a sudden we were likewe were the 153 fish.
And so what I mean by that islike I had all the resources to
my like, my availability.
Now I had all the subs, all theworkers.
We had, no, all the jobs.
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So it was just like all of uson one job.
And I was like, oh man, this is.
We ended up like having arecord breaking efficiency of
finishing a project.
I think we finished this twomillion dollar project in like
six months.
And and so what happened after?
That man was, it wasaward-winning.
It went nationally, you know,locally, nationally, everyone.
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It just hit, hit the market.
It was on the front of twomagazine covers.
It was just like.
It was just like boom, like ohman, this was the one, five,
three season and this is whatGod had prepared.
And this is where diligence metobedience.
And just seeing God, you know,just hey, just go for it, throw
it to the other side and dosomething different.
Shift, make a pivot in yourbusiness right now, and that's
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what most businesses had to dowent through, you know, covid,
and your business didn't survive.
Just trust there's a new season, you know, for you, and I'm
pretty sure you're there now.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You know after all the seasons, so not to say that,
you know every storm everyone'sdifferent, but for us that's
how it went down man, that's acrazy story because, um, that's
just a a perfect example ofdiligence and obedience, uh,
paired together, because now I'mlooking at it's like because
those awards and all of thoseyou know accolades wouldn't have
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come unless you guys wereprepared to take the role and to
assume that role in thatposition that could tackle that
job and even the job in itself,that one out of 30, you know
clients that you guys had, andthe one being the biggest amount
.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
The one out of all of them that we needed to say yes
was the one that said yes.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
And then for everything to line up, with the
homeowners not being there,which allowed you guys to go in
the house and just you know whatdo you call it?
Or just being available, likenot being distracted by anything
, or you know, um, that's such aa crazy blessing if you think
(37:10):
about it yeah, it really was,because what a you know, it's
just so many things on thatproject alone.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I mean, the location of it was on primetime highway
where we had our sign out, youknow, permit was approved.
We ordered everything rightbefore COVID, so we had all the
materials there.
People saw it getting built asCOVID was happening, so it was
probably like watching a liveconstruction movie, you know,
like nothing else is happening.
But look man, they're buildingthis sick home right here while
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I'm going to get coffee, youknow, and so it just like opened
up so many doors for newclients, bigger projects.
It just it just shotgun dust,like to another level.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Leadership is a big thing for you, right, because
you want to be able to to leadyour crew with integrity and you
know efficiency.
But can you talk to me aboutleadership?
And there's a portion herewhich is jumping into the water,
right, and it talks aboutleadership, but can you talk
about that?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, it's a personal author note.
I just directly.
I think I say that this is likefrom the heart to CEOs and
business owners or leaders outthere.
Basically, I think our and Ijust shared this a little bit
briefly but I believe our heartposition is key in leadership.
This a little bit briefly, butI believe our, our heart
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position is key in leadership.
Like you know, when jesus didthrow out the um, his voice to
say hey, throw it to the otherside, the uh, peter, who was
leading the crew, jumped.
He tied, you know, I guess hehad taken off his stuff,
whatever shirt and garment to tofish and do his thing right.
So, out of whatever I don'tknow what the reason is he tied
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it back on just to get backready and jumped in the water
and swam 100 yards, which isabout a football field, I
believe, length, from the shoreto be at the feet of jesus man.
And so to me that was like areminder that our heart position
as owners is always, to youknow, run to our leader, right,
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our CEO, our business partnerand builder of all things, and
knowing where the source of allour resources are coming from
and knowing that that connection, that relationship is even the
reason why they even got thefish, because if he didn't even
speak, they would have just cameback empty.
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So I think Peter recognized twothings.
Number one is where the fishcame from and why they were able
to even have an opportunity tocatch them.
But number two is it's Jesusman, like it's the builder of
all things, it's my Lord andSavior.
This is.
He had a relationship and so hejust jumped off the boat and
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just swam straight to him.
It wasn't even about the fishand so to me that's like that's
our heart position.
I think all the time when Godspeaks to me, in the hardest
seasons or in the greatestseasons, I get it.
I just I have a gratefulness ofhim even speaking to me.
Considering all the stars inthe sky, the galaxies, the
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spinning of the earth and thesun and everything that's
happening on our earth andpeople struggling out there with
cancers and poverties and wars,I just feel like this little
grain in an endless sand beach.
You know, and he stillconsiders and knows my name and
still speaks to me.
Throw him to the right side ofthe boat, like why, you know,
sometimes it's like not tobelittle me or bring me down to
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say why would you consider me?
But that's really like myposition of the other side,
really like my position of theother side.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I'm so grateful he considers me to even be to call
me by name and to to consider mylittle issue of not catching
fish today.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
You know it's like, but in Jesus has these moments.
God has these moments where hewill, you know, show us miracles
or be there for us so we can.
That's what he wants, man.
He wants a relationship.
He wants our heart to be inthat position.
So that was my note to the CEOs.
Or if you're like a leader inany kind of company or a church,
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or you're just a leader of yourfamily, like when God speaks,
just have a heart position to begrateful and to always be in
alignment, of going towards him,drawing towards him.
And the scripture says when youdraw near to me, he will draw
near to you.
That's good.
So there is a quote in the bookfaith without action is dead.
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But action without faith missesthe whole point.
So faith without action is dead.
So basically what that says ismany people say you have to do
in order to have faith work.
Right, faith without works isdead.
That's basically what peoplesay.
But if you have works withoutfaith, you missed the whole
point.
So like if somebody were to doall the work and to arrive with
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these accolades without plugginginto God or whatever the case
is, and you're not having thatrelationship, you're missing the
whole point.
That's the whole.
That's it.
That's what Peter recognizesLike you can have.
You know, like what?
If they did catch the fish thatday and they were to bring it
in and they were diligent, theydid everything, they could look
at that as God's blessing.
But then I have the opportunityto sit with Jesus.
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Yeah, so you know, like, if youdo diligent, if you work in
diligence, and you're gettingblessed.
But if you're not jumping offthe boat towards Jesus, man,
you're missing the whole pointof all this.
Like, earth is temporary.
Everything's so temporary thatif, if we gain everything on
this earth and you lose yoursoul, what's the whole point?
Man Like, so I think therelationship part with Jesus is
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the most critical piece in allof this man, it's like who cares
if it's abundance and who caresif it's nothing?
Man, I want that relationshipbecause that's the whole point,
you know, and I want him to useme and that's why I'm diligent,
and so my cup can be emptied andready to be filled, to overflow
into others.
But faith without action isdead, true, but also, if you
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just do the works and you don'thave the faith, then what's the
whole point?
Speaker 1 (43:12):
You want to close this up, Richie?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah, so when the miracle happened and they gained
the fish, and then Peter swamto shore to find Jesus and
there's more to the story whichis out of context of what I'm um
, I don't say out of context,but you know what?
Peter uh, got reinstated forsome things that happened with
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him and Jesus.
But, um, before all that, whenPeter and the disciples came to
shore, uh, jesus already had afire going came to shore, jesus
already had a fire going, so hewas already knowing that they
were going to catch fish, theywere going to bring it to shore,
it was going to be 153 and theywere going to sit and have
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breakfast.
And he says that have breakfastwith me, you know, and that was
huge for me because, like I wassharing earlier, man, I have a
hard time with, like,celebrating those wins, because
I don't want to step out of thepocket of gratitude, as you were
sharing, and I don't want toget in this place like I earned
it or I deserved it or you know,and we can easily fall into
that because we're putting inthe work, you know.
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And so when I say we're puttingin the work, physically and
emotionally, we are attached tothe work we're doing, so we feel
everything we're going throughand the energy we're putting in
so there can be that.
It can be very easy to attachourselves that we earn that, you
know.
And so when jesus has the firerunning and the miracles there
(44:40):
and grateful, yeah, we're outworking all day.
When I say we, you know, justrelating with the fishermen,
we're out there working all day.
We're putting in the sweat andtears, we're using all our
resources, we're doing thediligence thing.
We even obeyed, out ofobedience to the voice we heard
to put on the other side.
We get all this fish.
We bring it back in.
Now.
This is a point where you knowit's okay to celebrate your win,
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have breakfast with Jesus, man,you know like that's now is it?
He said have breakfast with me.
So what that means is takingthe gain.
You know that you just gained,whatever it was uh, projects,
profits, products sold andsaying sit, have breakfast with
me.
You know, have breakfast withme.
Let's cut that fish up, let'sput it on the grill, let's put
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some seasoning on it, let's havesome conversation, let's smile,
let let's laugh, let's let thebreeze hit us while we're on the
on the shore, let's just havethis opportunity just to hang
and celebrate the fish we justbrought in.
You know, I mean, it's like,like, have breakfast with me.
That's what, like I'm I'mlearning is when there is a win
and there are gonna be hatersout there that's another thing
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too is, like you know, people,people are going to curse and
hate when you're winning andthey're not, but when you attach
Jesus to it and the testimonyto it, I believe it will speak
wonders.
And so I think it's OK tocelebrate, and that's what this
book was.
It was just a or not this book,but that chapter in the book
was just a short celebration andhaving breakfast with Jesus and
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just sharing like you know whatGod did.
And having breakfast with Jesusand just sharing like you know
what God did.
I'm grateful for it.
And I'm sitting and I'menjoying some fish with him,
some eggs, some bacon, you know,and like just whatever you know
breakfast you like.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Fellowshiping with the Lord, man Just fellowshiping
with the.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Lord man, can you imagine just sitting there with
Jesus having breakfast, man,after not seeing him and
thinking he's dead, and now he'salive and he's revealing that
to you and just the miracle youjust witnessed.
And so, yeah, just carryingthat, you know, with that heart
position when you know things gosouth in the valley and you
don't like it, or if they gonorth in a place where you feel
like you know it was a successor whatever it is, you don't
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like it if they go north in aplace where you feel like you
know it was a success orwhatever it is.
The true success is whateveryou do bring to the shore.
Make sure you're sitting downand enjoying that breakfast with
Jesus.
You.
we're in chapter five of the book, which talks about
um, the swim, and primarily theconcept of the 153 season, um,
but to start off, talk to meabout preparation, preparation
(00:50):
um, yeah, this chapter, I think,was very important to um inject
something that was a sense ofall the hard work you're putting
in and where God rewards thosethose things.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
So we wanted to have a.
I think it's the shortestchapter in the book.
Oh, is it?
Yeah.
It's the shortest chapter inthe book, but it's the one that
kind of shares all the accoladesof our company.
And not, I don't know if we madethe shortest intentionally it
might just be me just trying toget over it real quick.
But not to, to.
But see, that's the thing is.
We need to celebrate our wins,you know, and uh, and, and this
(01:27):
book intentionally shares aheart position.
Uh educates us on, like, youknow, release, shares my journey
on when god, you know I don'tknow what's the right word, but
like, and I have a hard timewith uh when you, well, you know
, like, in sharing that, becauseI never want to take glory for
(01:49):
ourselves.
So the book was like,intentional on structuring how
to position our hearts when Goddoes show up and bless you.
There you go.
You know, it's like it's like Idon't know, just my whole life
man, Like I've been in someamazing opportunities, right,
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no-transcript.
Like John the Baptist says, youknow he must increase while I
decrease, and I've always hadthat heart of just.
You know, it's always been ahard for me to like share when
something goes well, and so thisbook, in this chapter, really
(02:50):
helped me like understand thosemoments when the blessings are
there and how to, how tocelebrate your wins.
So that's really what thischapter is is um sets the tone
of, uh, that heart position.
But what you asked waspreparation, I think is the key
to any kind of blessing with God.
(03:11):
There's a scripture in the bookProverbs 21, 31,.
The horse is ready for battleand victory is of the Lord.
That says a lot to me about,like when I'm in a construction
business, right?
So we have to do a lot ofpreparation and pre-construction
and most people think like, oh,here's the design, here's a
here's, here's the drawings,let's, let's go yeah.
(03:34):
Can you guys start next week?
And I always got to pausepeople.
I mean even in like a threemillion dollar project.
We get things signed.
We go through all thenegotiations and the contract
contract.
We get that thing signed.
They're ready to start in twoweeks.
And I'm like whoa, there's a lotof preparation.
Um, I mean, going from justcontractual, we sign with a
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client, we got to start signingwith all the subcontractors.
There's trade agreements theygot to go out and final
negotiations get them locked infiguring out their timings, and
then you do that like 20 timesand then you take all those
schedules, pump them into yourschedule and figure out how the
best alignment is withmilestones that you can't miss,
to make sure those get in place.
You got to look in permitting,make sure that stuff's aligned
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and getting all those things inplace.
You got to check with vendorsand lead times.
When you purchase somethingyou're on an Island and it's
some stuff takes eight to 12weeks.
You got to take those lines ifyou pay for that at this certain
time and when that aligns.
So it's just like all thispreparation man.
You got to go to the lot and dopreparation.
You got to mobilize, you got todo all this stuff, and so for
you to even start, man, it'slike it's the saying of an
(04:39):
airplane takes 80 fuel.
I don't know this is correct.
I just don't know if this iscorrect.
I just don't know, but anairplane takes about 80% of its
fuel to get in the air and thenthe rest of it is just glide
mode.
You know what I'm saying.
So that's the same thing withconstruction, but that's the
same thing in leadership andlife and with business is like
you know, preparation is key.
There's things there's sayingsof, you know, preparation meets
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opportunity and I believe thatGod has opportunities out there.
Without us preparing andputting in the work you know
it's, those opportunities can bemissed and because there's, you
know there's a certain ladderor stair or pathway.
You got to get to the certaindoor and if you don't do what
you need to do, you may neverland at that door.
(05:22):
There is this movie in the bookthat I referenced, facing the
giants, and this pastor wastalking with the football coach.
He was just like going througha meltdown.
Like you know, I guess his wifecan't have kids anymore, bills
are at their final.
Like he's about to lose hishouse.
His car broke down, the thefootball team's losing.
(05:43):
He happened to hear that.
You know they're gonna fire himhe's getting everything, man
he's like dude, he's just likehe's a mess and he's just
sitting there and, uh, this, uhlike school pastor came like
coming through and he waspraying on all the lockers and
he just comes into his officeand he kind of gave him a story.
Man, he was just like there'stwo farmers, you know, and both
(06:07):
of them prayed for rain, butonly one of them actually
prepared the field and when therain came, who you think got the
crop?
And so I think that momentshifted and spoke to him like,
oh man, I need, I need to go towar, I need to prepare, I need.
Like, in his head was like Ihaven't been seeking God, I
(06:30):
haven't been like going at thisa different way.
I just kind of used my way andcame to an end, but I just kind
of stuck there.
And so, preparation, when youhear that scripture again, you
know, proverbs 21, 31 is, uh,horses prepared for battle, but
victories of the lords man, Ithink about, like, I really
think about that time, you know,like, if you're watching the
(06:51):
movie vikings or some of thoseold, old movies, they get on
horses and go to war, braveheartwith mel gibson, whatever you
know um, like just watchingthose movies and just just
thinking about them gettingready to go to war, right, and
so on the horse.
That means they got to travelto where they're going to get
ready for the battle, orwhatever the case is.
(07:12):
And so you can imagine they'rethinking all right, if this
scenario happens, like you know,if I got to fight a samurai guy
and he's coming with a sword,how am I going to block that?
So I'm going to need thisshield, you know Right right,
I'm not going to block that.
So I'm going to need this shield.
You know like they're thinkinglike, OK, if I'm in this, I'm in
a position where the guys arepulling out.
You know, this kind of weapon,this is how I need defense, this
is how I'm going to fight if Ifall on the ground yeah, so they
(07:33):
got.
Oh, but if I'm on the ground,if it's muddy is it raining
today?
So yeah, I probably should wearthese, kind Cause I know over
there they got the high weedsand I'm trying to trip when I'm
trying to fight, you know.
So what's happening is they'repreparing themselves for every
scenario before they get on thathorse and make sure the horse
can carry all these differentyou know, tools and just
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different things that couldhappen.
And so I imagine, like when theyget on the horse, at that point
it's, it's heavy.
There's some things that theythey're like okay, I got to
prioritize now, you know okay.
Okay, I can't carry all this,I'm not even gonna make it, so
let's take these little thingsoff, I'm gonna keep these.
And so, anyway, long storyshort, they're getting headed
out to war, but the scripture issaying get your horse ready for
(08:15):
battle.
So that's what I just shared,but victories of the lord, and
so, um, it's a heart, postureand a perspective to do all you
know to do and let God do therest.
And that's really like theheart of my work ethic, the
heart of this chapter.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, Would you say that?
Would you call preparation aresponsibility at this?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good way to uh ask.
It's uh, it's stewardship ofwhat god's given you.
So, going back on like as anowner versus steward,
stewardship is takingresponsibility with all the
resources parenting god's takingyou to life and utilizing those
to the best of your ability.
So, yeah, I do think it's aresponsibility to do everything
(09:02):
you know to do before.
Because you know, there's thatother like story of the guy who
prayed to God every day Like hewanted to win the lottery.
Yeah, like man, I need themoney.
Man, look at my situation.
I need, I need the lottery'sexact amount.
I need.
Lord, please, let me win thelottery.
Pray every day, every day.
Pray, lord, let me win thelottery, let me win the lottery,
(09:23):
let me win the lottery.
And then finally he startedgetting upset, man, because the
lottery came here and went.
So he was just like.
So his next prayer was like God, he started pulling out
scripture.
Like man, yours says ask and itwill be given.
Like I asked man, like you know, and all this stuff.
And then God spoke and he waslike oh, you the lottery?
(09:43):
Like I was about to give it toyou, but guess what, man, you
never went and bought a ticket.
So you know, I say that to saylike it is our responsibility to
do all we need to do, becausethat's what unlocks the door for
God's opportunities, you know.
And so a lot of times we don'tknow what those are, but we just
need to do everything we needwe know to do, and that's the
(10:05):
key to God's doorways that hehas for us.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
That's cool because I think of it in.
I've heard relationship advicebefore where it's like, okay,
you want this particular partnerin your life, you want this
girl right, and you have allthese things that you prefer in
this person, but then you don'tlike, you just look for it and
(10:29):
you ask, but you don't evenprepare yourself to be the right
person for them.
It's funny because it's like,yeah, you got to, you know, get
a good job or work on yourhealth or whatever.
It is like you know and whenthe opportunity comes aka the
girl you try to, you know, talkto her or whatever, and like she
(10:52):
doesn't to her, you're notprepared.
In a sense You're not the rightguy for her because you're not
at the place where you know youshould be at or you know.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Does that make sense?
Oh no, you're nailing it, man,because we're.
I'm talking about war, but Ithink it also relates to
business, it relates to yourmarriage, it relates to being a
parent, like we need to do allwe know to do for your child,
right?
Yes, you know in every case,and I you know it's.
It's a bummer when I seesometimes and I mean I'm, I fell
in it too, but it's like youknow, the safety of the child's,
(11:19):
everything.
It's our responsibility to notthink about we're overdoing, but
but to set them up for success.
So, yeah, and not to burnanybody out on that thought, but
God has equipped us withexactly what we need in
knowledge resources for everysingle day.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
What I want to pause you there, but what you said was
actually big Cause.
I feel like parents willespecially new, new parents will
tend to worry about a situationversus being prepared for it.
I think that's huge man.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Well, that's the key of that.
Scripture is like we can't letworry and burnout weigh us down,
and there's a scripture aboutGod taking that.
And this is how it's thatscripture it's do everything you
know to do, but victories arethe Lord.
Yeah, that's the key.
That's the key.
The key is I'm doing everythingI can to do to protect my child
(12:10):
.
But now that I've doneeverything with the resources
that I've stewarded with my mindand everything that God has
given me and parents me to beable to be that parent, now I
need to know and trust victoriesof the Lord and that kid's safe
.
I don't need to worry nowbecause I did everything I need
to do.
Now, if you don't do everythingthat you know to do, trust me
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that the world is set up to hurtyour child.
Yes, you know, and so God canprotect and God will.
But it is our responsibilityand duty to do everything that
we know to do.
That's good, yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
That's cool because it does relate to everything.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It does, man it does.
And so to carry it back tobusiness, I think when the
greatest storms come or certainthings happen in business, or
whatever the case is like whenyou're preparing for war, you
want to be able to do everythingyou know to do in business.
You have 20 tasks.
You have eight hours.
You got to prioritize thosetasks.
(13:07):
You got to put them up on aboard, put them in your, your
notepad, whatever it is, and if,if the top five get done, you
did all you know you can do forthat day.
You can't conquer everything ineight hours.
You got to honor your eighthours, but do everything you
know to do.
Now.
Don't go on youtube and watch,watch podcasts for an hour when
you could be doing your tasks.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
You know what I'm saying you ain't talking to me,
dog.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
But see, that's, I think, to carry that home to one
single word, that's diligence.
Diligence is doing everythingyou know to do, and so it's our
responsibility to honor ourtimes and the times that we have
, for, whatever that case is,and do what we know to do, and
God will win the war, for youWill win.
Whatever that case is, and do,do what we know to do, and God
will win the war for you.
We'll win.
Whatever the battle is, or thevictory is going to be there.
(13:49):
Well said, bro.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Moving on.
There's a next chapter.
A portion of the chapter iscalled the right side of the
boat and it's a.
It's a story of Jesus tellingthe.
I was going to say the homiesthe disciples, hey, try this
side.
Homies the disciples, hey, trythis side, as small as it is.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
The change is right.
Yeah, it's huge, but can youtalk to me about that?
Well, just for the listeners tokind of break down the story a
bit, but this is time frame andcontext.
This is after jesus diedalready.
So jesus had died.
The disciples, peter, and thecrew, the fishermen crew, where
they haven't seen Jesus sincehis death.
So in their understanding he'sstill dead.
(14:30):
Yes, right, so that's like thecontext of the situation.
And so they have been fishermen.
They're professional fishermen.
They know the waters, they knowtheir boat, they know the
equipment.
They're like you put me on aconstruction site, man, that's
my world, that's my tribe,that's my arena.
I'm a professional, I amliterally a professional when it
comes to building homes.
(14:51):
That's what they are.
They're professional in theirfield and they're going out
fishing and guess what?
They're not catching fish,which is kind of it happens, but
odd for somebody who'sprofessional in that trade and
does it for a living to just notcatch any fish.
So that can already put aweight.
But the fact that who?
The moment that they're goingout, I don't think they've been
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fishing like that for a long,for probably three years,
because they've been walkingwith Jesus, but now that Jesus
died there.
Guess what?
Guess what they're doing?
They're going back to their oldways because they don't know
what else to do right now.
So they're going back out to dowhat they got to do with this
get some fish and just goingback into survival mode.
You know what I mean.
But guess what?
There's no fish.
And they're getting ready towrap up for the day.
And this is a similar storywhen Peter first met Jesus.
(15:32):
So when Peter first met Jesus,it was almost a similar story.
So here they are same storygetting ready to wash their nets
, you know.
And then Jesus kind of yellsout close enough, he's on shore.
And from their perspective thisis like some strange random guy
.
Hey, just throw it on the otherside, no offended.
(15:53):
I would have been like, ok, notlike, go to, you know these
waters at this beach, you know,hey, actually there's some fish
over on the other side of themountain, right over there, you
know.
It's more like like yo, right,where, where your boat is, where
you've been stressing all daychecking for fish.
You, you guys, are tired,you're, you're dead, you're
already washing your nets,you're putting things away.
But just right there.
(16:14):
But on the other side of theboat, I'd have been like fool,
get out of here.
Yeah, get out of here, man.
But um, the voice theyrecognized.
Wait a minute, minute, whatvoice is that?
I've been around that voice forthree years.
I recognize that accent, Irecognize that voice.
And that's when diligence meetsobedience.
(16:35):
So you can be diligent,diligent, diligent, but not be
obedient.
So obedience is when God speaksand gives you what you need to
do.
I could have all the greatesttools, ray.
I could have your best.
To me, my favorite, like sitejob site, uh, table saw is a
dewalt.
(16:55):
Like.
I love the dewalt.
Table saw, the chop saw, youcan have all the best.
Yeah, I'm a milwaukee guy,though, when it comes to the
battery tools.
So.
So I got all my tools and allthese things Festool, vacuum,
festool chop saw on site.
I can look like the man.
But guess what, man?
I've had guys bring all thisstuff, set everything up and we
(17:16):
ain't got no power.
Battery's dead.
Whatever reason, the power goesout, you're done, man, doesn't
matter how decorated your toolsare right.
So I think diligence meets.
Obedience is when you take oneof your construction tools and
plug it into the power, man, andthen that's when it's game on.
So that's what happened, man.
(17:37):
They heard the voice of theLord, they recognized the voice
from having a relationship withthem and they were obedient.
They did all they knew they cando.
But what?
I'm?
Why?
I'm?
Why this is very importantbecause you're out there and
you're like man.
Richie said just do all I needto do and victory's mine.
True, do all you need to do,but guess what?
There are times you'll be onthe boat, just like peter and
those fishermen.
(17:58):
You did everything you know todo, you, you followed your old
list and guess what?
You?
You sitting there with nothing.
So yeah, richie's wrong.
Do all you need to do, butvictories of the Lord when you
plug into the power.
So when diligence meets, meetsobedience.
That's the key.
That actually, that's when yourkey, the key right Is is is is
(18:20):
your diligence, grabbing thetools and resources you know,
and obedience is where to putand what door to put it in.
It unlocks and opens the door.
So with that story, man, uh,yeah, they put it on the other
side and they said it says thefish.
There were so many, theabundance was so high they
couldn't even handle the amountof fish, but the net never broke
(18:43):
.
So whatever they could fit inthe net, fully maxed out of
abundance and blessings, man, uh, they couldn't, it couldn't
even.
It couldn't, it didn't evenbreak the net.
So it was like it was such asignificant, like blessing, like
it was.
It's like I knew how muchblessing you can handle before
your net burst.
(19:04):
So I I think there's like two,two sides of the the, the fence.
There's one where there's somuch stress, weight, life bills,
not pay, you know business,shutting down, so much like on
the negative side, weight, thatGod will say I won't give you
more than you can handle, togive you faith and assurance
that I'm going to put youthrough the fire, I'm going to
(19:28):
apply pressure in your life tostrengthen you and to bring you
back up, but I'm not more thanyou can handle.
But then the other side of thefence I think it's the same
thing with abundance he's goingto give you, bless you, but not
to detour you into like materialworld or to you know, you just
start going into addiction orlust or different things because
(19:48):
there's just too much abundance, you know.
And so I think there's bothsides that God can allow storms
to strengthen you and alsoabundance to strengthen you but
not give you more than you canhandle.
And that's what that scriptureand that story specifically
speaks to me is like there wasso much fish, but just enough
for the net that they can bringback to shore what you said
(20:10):
about, um, enough to enough toyou know, not derail you or or
get you too high.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You know, know, big-headed or whatnot, but I
feel like on another section Iguess of that.
I guess what I'm asking is howdo you protect yourself from
knowing if it's an abundance ornot, or it's a test?
You know what I mean.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, I think for me, going into Peter's reaction
when that happened, I think hisposture and his heart he didn't
even like when they caught thefish he didn't even like, I
don't think he realized what washappening, he just responded to
hearing the voice and so hejumped off the boat and swam to
(21:02):
Jesus and, just kind of like,left his team to to grab the
fish, and so I think his posturein his heart was number one is
when I was, me and Tiffany werein a season where things felt
like that season where theabundance was happening, we're
winning awards, we were, youknow, being recognized
nationally, we were getting anyjob we wanted.
I mean it was just like the netjust was like we're grabbing
(21:24):
everything, I mean everythingyou could think of was happening
that you would want in asuccessful, you know,
residential constructionbusiness.
But for me, man, I think me andTiffany know that I don't know
if I have the key to recognizingwhen it's abundance test or
blessing, to recognizing whenit's abundance test or blessing,
(21:45):
but I believe our heartposition can help give us the
lens and filter to see that,because I believe God gives to a
cheerful giver.
So what that means to me is ifyou have a cup and he's going to
pour blessings into it has tobe able to overflow into
somebody else.
Pour blessings into it has tobe able to overflow into
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somebody else.
And so if you're trying to justcontain it, I I believe that it
for me is like the.
It's a heart check, like, okay,what am I doing with this?
Like, am I worshiping it?
Number one am I chasing it?
Number two am I hoarding it?
So I think those three would belike a personal good, uh, yeah,
like a gauge for me to see.
Okay, or am I grateful, am Igiving and I don't have another
(22:31):
g?
Um, am I grateful, am I givingand?
Um, yeah, I don't have anotherg but that's good.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Uh, you answered the question on the dot Richie,
which is, you know, beinggrateful, like what Peter said,
I think.
Coming back to just anyblessing, and I think you talk
about it here briefly, it's,like you know, always being
grateful for the abundance orwhatever blessing that comes in,
(23:01):
abundance or whatever blessingthat comes in.
You mentioned that Peter wasmore focused on the blesser and
not the gift or the giver, andnot the gift, and there's a
portion here as well where it'staking a step back.
You know, when Jesus called outto Peter and them not knowing,
you know, as when someone youdon't know or but guess to him
(23:24):
it was he recognized the voice.
But for someone to take advice,um, from some random person,
and for your pride not to gethurt or whatnot, that must be
tough for you know.
How do you even?
Do you trust that voice or doyou just be like, hey, let's
just change it up and listen tothis random guy?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Well, yeah, I mean it could.
And I think I put in the bookin that kind of picture where it
was like, hey, there's thisrandom guy telling you to just
throw it on the other side.
But I believe also that whenyou carry a relationship with
the builder of all things, thatwhen he does speak, you
recognize who it's coming from,you know what I mean.
(24:05):
You'll have that filter ofunderstanding, that tone, that
that authority, that you knowall the things that you've.
They've walked with him forthree years.
So they had this relationship toknow, like, oh wait, I know
that voice, yeah, like this isfamiliar grounds, like, and so I
think their faith played.
But also I think theirrelationship played a role too
(24:27):
of being able to, you know,discern that you know it could
have been some random guy likesetting them up to do something
that they, hey, you need to goon this side and over there.
Actually, you know they couldhave died, you know, but, um, I
think there are just things inrelationship that they had that
just kind of helped themunderstand, like where that,
(24:49):
where that call was coming fromand where that message was
coming from towards the endingof the chapter, richie, there's
a concept that you introduce,which is the amount of fish that
they caught and how specific itwas, and it's called one3
season.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, yeah, can you walk me through that?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
going through our business journey.
You know, I, in my relationshipwith god, I, you know, in
different seasons, I'mconstantly studying the word and
when I was reading this storystory, it really felt like God
was like I had this question manlike why 153?
I don't, you know, like oddnumbers.
(25:28):
When you do that, especially inyou know, it's kind of like in
business, right In contracting,I can say, hey, the houses, uh,
to build your house is going tobe one, 1.2 million.
Oh, okay, cool, it's like roundup, it's good to go.
But if I'm like, yeah, to buildyour house is 1.237, you know,
or you know 762.21 cents,they're going to be like, oh man
(25:54):
, that's specific, specific.
So we actually used thatstrategy when me and my wife
bought a home.
When, uh, we're in negotiationstrying to buy a house and you
know they they wouldn't go belowa certain number, yeah, and so
you know, when you make an offer, you make a number and then so
we actually like, threw in avery specific number in there
(26:15):
and it actually aligned with, uh, romans 828.
So we threw 828 in there, kindof like the number than 828,
yeah, and it, and we sent it off, we prayed and just trust God
that all things work togetherfor good, if this is what you
want.
And then he came back andoffered it and it was well below
the number he would say hewouldn't go below.
But I think what happened is itfelt like we took all the money
(26:36):
out of our pocket, put it allon a pile, everything was on our
dresser, and we just added itup and that was the number.
Because even our realtor waslike hey, that's such a specific
number, like why not just roundit up?
He said in the realtor world weusually round this up just to
make the math easier foreverybody.
Can we just round this up?
And we're like no, we're like,we prayed about this, this is
(26:59):
the number and this prayed aboutthis, this is the number and
this is what we're gonna sendoff.
So we sent it off and and heaccepted.
And you know the positionbehind that was like oh, number
one, just trusting god put allthose things, but why?
I shared that it was just sucha specific number.
I think it spoke to him sayinglike we believe that he was like
man, this I don't think they'regonna come back with another
offer.
(27:19):
I think this was like all moneyon the table.
And so he was like this weprobably put him in a position
where he felt like I gotta takethis or not take it, and so he
ended up taking it.
So when I look at the fish, Ifeel the same way.
It's like 153 fish, like that'ssuch a specific number.
that's not like a roundup number, because we do that right, we
round up things to make easiermath, and I'm pretty sure they
(27:41):
did that back then, but it was153 and I could just like I
always like put myself in thosepositions where I was on the
boat with peter and all theseguys and then they pull the net
up, you know, and he jumps out,he changed jesus, like all this,
and then the guys, they, theycome out, they round up all the
fish and they're like pulling itback and then here jesus is,
he's on shore and then they'repulling and they count all the
fish and it was like 153recorded, boom.
(28:02):
So that 153 is what I want to.
You know I wanted to.
It spoke to me saying that doall you know you can do, god
will do the rest.
God will also open doors foropportunity when you follow, you
know your diligence, and andwhen you're obedient, he'll open
(28:23):
the doors that he wants you tostep through, but also close the
ones that he doesn't want youin.
So it's like, imagine if youhave four streams, four roads,
you're like which one should Igo down?
He's going to make a tree fallon two of them and then the
other one, a truck's going tocome, turn, park and there's
going to be some blockings.
Only be one open.
That's the one.
So I believe 153 season isbasically our prayer, is our
(28:46):
prayer to god open the doors youwant to open and close the ones
you want closed and same asthose fish.
We want 153 fish that you wantus to bring to shore and the
ones that don't make it.
Praise god.
So it was a heart of gratitudeand thankfulness.
For when we lose jobs too, you,you know saying okay, we, we,
we know that fish didn't make itto shore, only 153 did.
(29:06):
An abundance of 153 is alsopart of that.
One, five, three season is whenyou're following, you know God,
and being diligent and tryingto be obedient as much as
possible, and he blesses youwith abundance.
He's blessing with you what youcan handle and then getting rid
of the fish that you can'thandle.
And that's to me is one, five,three man.
It's like he's gonna get youyour maximum capacity to shore,
(29:30):
but the ones you couldn't handle, he just let them keep swimming
and that's good.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
That comes in a form of uh, in the previous years
with, with atn um, right beforethe big change in the world
which was COVID time Right, andI know you have a story that I
don't know if you want to getinto it, but it seems like that
was the lane that God opened upand it was like there were
multiple lanes and, like youwere mentioning, just things
(29:56):
shut down and then this wasspecifically, everything just
worked out, and I don't know ifyou want to dive into that.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I mean, yeah, just real quick, quick, just
tangibleness in reality of ourbusiness.
And where this really came toplay, I mean covid, I mean we're
, we're growing.
You know, 2017, 18, 19 we wereon like this little growth spurt
nothing crazy, but you know, uh, we we had, you know, we won
our first luxury job.
(30:23):
I think it was close to twomillion, which I think the
projects before that weresignificantly lower.
Yeah, so I mean, that was hugefor us.
So we were prepping and gettingthat one to get started.
I think it just started.
And then, all of a sudden, man,you know, I think we had maybe
30, 40 projects going on.
You know, a good amount of teamsworking with us and just things
flowing the COVID app buteverything shut down.
(30:45):
Yeah, now you know me andTiffany both, you know, coming
from two house fires and I wantto say poverty setting, but
poverty setting, man growing up,and, yeah, and the sense of not
third world country but Americapoverty setting, and and
Tiffany living on the beach alsocoming up with us.
We just had no resources,nothing when we started our
company no money, no people toask for money.
(31:07):
We didn't have any of that, youknow, we had nobody to reach
out to for any kind of resourcereally.
So everything was just from godor from us, just, you know,
trying to make it through.
And so when everything shut down, man, we're, we're almost like
everything we did was almost agamble, because the funds were
always like right there andtrying to grow, and so we,
(31:27):
basically, we were just payingourselves just enough to get by,
and everything that was evenclose to profitable would go
back into the business to growit to a point to where we wanted
to get it and be able tosurvive this luxury.
So it was just tight as it was.
It was just tight, but we werebeing extra diligent, you know,
and in that season, I think wewere way ahead of the game using
technology.
We were using platforms thatwere CRMs, you know, project
(31:52):
management, customer related,you know, management platforms.
The architects we work withwere digital blueprints, and
this is 2019 now.
So, you know, we were alreadydoing video calls.
Yeah, and nobody was reallydoing video calls.
We had to, like, you know, kindof teach them how to use it,
and so we're using virtualreality for our design.
So we're just one of thosecompanies trying to be a little
(32:12):
tech heavy in the front, knowingthat this is where the future
is going.
We didn't, we just didn't knowlike it was coming so soon.
Yeah, so when covid happened,the whole world shut down.
We all know this.
But but for me it was like, ohmy gosh, like every client of
our thing, we had 30 somethingprojects say, we're, we're not
working, we can't do anythingnow, but I just I got, I got my
(32:35):
office to pay, I got my manager.
You know, I'm just like I can't, I can't afford this even a
couple weeks, like this is crazy, like, yeah, we're about to
shut down, like you know, and sowe're just burning the fuel,
trying to think.
And then I felt like thosefishermen, like on the boat man
just not catching the thing, man, I was just like we're about to
hang the nets, you know.
(32:56):
And so in that moment, man, youknow, we felt a leading from God
and a voice from God to saythrow your net on the other side
, you know, on the right side.
And so so we did, and tangibly,that meant like coming up with
a battle plan how we can execute, survive COVID.
This is in literally February,right Of 2020.
(33:18):
Like, this wasn't like sixmonths later, this was the month
everyone shut down.
We wrote a whole battle plan onhow we would execute in the
field with COVID, withseparation, with all our workers
, with masks, with shields.
We had to give people breathingroom, to go out for like 10
minutes, come back in and work.
We just came up with a wholegame plan and put it all out on
paper.
We didn't have chat, gpt backthen.
(33:39):
We just put all this stuff out.
Our managers we had actuallycreated this like seating zone
in our office where we couldhave meetings and there was like
six feet separate.
It was all this stuff beforeeven the six feet separation.
What thing was even out?
We were just kind of like howcan we operate in this matter?
And so, um, we were doingresearch and learning like, oh
wait, a minute, we'reconstruction.
(33:59):
Guys actually can work.
They're considered, you knowwell, I forget the term was back
then, but essential.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I think it was.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
And so we had put together memos for all our
subcontractors who are just fearcrazy of going out because you
know everything we're seeing onYouTube in China, like man,
those guys are dropping likeflies I ain't trying to catch no
COVID, you know.
So we're all at this fearfactor going and all the clients
responded like no, I'm likedang.
So we did all that diligence,you know, and set our, got the
(34:29):
horse ready for battle and sentit out, man and uh.
And we got one client thatcalled us and said green light,
go, man, yeah, go out of the 30,out of the 30.
And it was our luxury projectbecause they were still in the
mainland, they weren't here, youknow.
And so they were like man, go,you have the house, it's yours,
man, get it done.
So I called all, I sent out thememos to the subs and told them
(34:49):
the game plan.
I let all the employees knowand everyone was like, yeah, we
need work, man.
So like, if you guys are greenlight, all their projects were
shut down.
So all of a sudden we were likewe were the 153 fish.
And so what I mean by that islike I had all the resources to
my like, my availability.
Now I had all the subs, all theworkers.
We had, no, all the jobs.
(35:10):
So it was just like all of uson one job.
And I was like, oh man, this is.
We ended up like having arecord breaking efficiency of
finishing a project.
I think we finished this twomillion dollar project in like
six months.
And and so what happened after?
That man was, it wasaward-winning.
It went nationally, you know,locally, nationally, everyone.
(35:32):
It just hit, hit the market.
It was on the front of twomagazine covers.
It was just like.
It was just like boom, like ohman, this was the one, five,
three season and this is whatGod had prepared.
And this is where diligence metobedience.
And just seeing God, you know,just hey, just go for it, throw
it to the other side and dosomething different.
Shift, make a pivot in yourbusiness right now, and that's
(35:54):
what most businesses had to dowent through, you know, covid,
and your business didn't survive.
Just trust there's a new season, you know, for you, and I'm
pretty sure you're there now.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You know after all the seasons, so not to say that,
you know every storm everyone'sdifferent, but for us that's
how it went down man, that's acrazy story because, um, that's
just a a perfect example ofdiligence and obedience, uh,
paired together, because now I'mlooking at it's like because
those awards and all of thoseyou know accolades wouldn't have
(36:28):
come unless you guys wereprepared to take the role and to
assume that role in thatposition that could tackle that
job and even the job in itself,that one out of 30, you know
clients that you guys had, andthe one being the biggest amount
.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
The one out of all of them that we needed to say yes
was the one that said yes.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
And then for everything to line up, with the
homeowners not being there,which allowed you guys to go in
the house and just you know whatdo you call it?
Or just being available, likenot being distracted by anything
, or you know, um, that's such aa crazy blessing if you think
(37:10):
about it yeah, it really was,because what a you know, it's
just so many things on thatproject alone.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I mean, the location of it was on primetime highway
where we had our sign out, youknow, permit was approved.
We ordered everything rightbefore COVID, so we had all the
materials there.
People saw it getting built asCOVID was happening, so it was
probably like watching a liveconstruction movie, you know,
like nothing else is happening.
But look man, they're buildingthis sick home right here while
(37:38):
I'm going to get coffee, youknow, and so it just like opened
up so many doors for newclients, bigger projects.
It just it just shotgun dust,like to another level.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Leadership is a big thing for you, right, because
you want to be able to to leadyour crew with integrity and you
know efficiency.
But can you talk to me aboutleadership?
And there's a portion herewhich is jumping into the water,
right, and it talks aboutleadership, but can you talk
about that?
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, it's a personal author note.
I just directly.
I think I say that this is likefrom the heart to CEOs and
business owners or leaders outthere.
Basically, I think our and Ijust shared this a little bit
briefly but I believe our heartposition is key in leadership.
This a little bit briefly, butI believe our, our heart
(38:29):
position is key in leadership.
Like you know, when jesus didthrow out the um, his voice to
say hey, throw it to the otherside, the uh, peter, who was
leading the crew, jumped.
He tied, you know, I guess hehad taken off his stuff,
whatever shirt and garment to tofish and do his thing right.
So, out of whatever I don'tknow what the reason is he tied
(38:49):
it back on just to get backready and jumped in the water
and swam 100 yards, which isabout a football field, I
believe, length, from the shoreto be at the feet of jesus man.
And so to me that was like areminder that our heart position
as owners is always, to youknow, run to our leader, right,
(39:10):
our CEO, our business partnerand builder of all things, and
knowing where the source of allour resources are coming from
and knowing that that connection, that relationship is even the
reason why they even got thefish, because if he didn't even
speak, they would have just cameback empty.
(39:30):
So I think Peter recognized twothings.
Number one is where the fishcame from and why they were able
to even have an opportunity tocatch them.
But number two is it's Jesusman, like it's the builder of
all things, it's my Lord andSavior.
This is.
He had a relationship and so hejust jumped off the boat and
(39:51):
just swam straight to him.
It wasn't even about the fishand so to me that's like that's
our heart position.
I think all the time when Godspeaks to me, in the hardest
seasons or in the greatestseasons, I get it.
I just I have a gratefulness ofhim even speaking to me.
Considering all the stars inthe sky, the galaxies, the
(40:15):
spinning of the earth and thesun and everything that's
happening on our earth andpeople struggling out there with
cancers and poverties and wars,I just feel like this little
grain in an endless sand beach.
You know, and he stillconsiders and knows my name and
still speaks to me.
Throw him to the right side ofthe boat, like why, you know,
sometimes it's like not tobelittle me or bring me down to
(40:39):
say why would you consider me?
But that's really like myposition of the other side,
really like my position of theother side.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I'm so grateful he considers me to even be to call
me by name and to to consider mylittle issue of not catching
fish today.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
You know it's like, but in Jesus has these moments.
God has these moments where hewill, you know, show us miracles
or be there for us so we can.
That's what he wants, man.
He wants a relationship.
He wants our heart to be inthat position.
So that was my note to the CEOs.
Or if you're like a leader inany kind of company or a church,
(41:15):
or you're just a leader of yourfamily, like when God speaks,
just have a heart position to begrateful and to always be in
alignment, of going towards him,drawing towards him.
And the scripture says when youdraw near to me, he will draw
near to you.
That's good.
So there is a quote in the bookfaith without action is dead.
(41:37):
But action without faith missesthe whole point.
So faith without action is dead.
So basically what that says ismany people say you have to do
in order to have faith work.
Right, faith without works isdead.
That's basically what peoplesay.
But if you have works withoutfaith, you missed the whole
point.
So like if somebody were to doall the work and to arrive with
(42:02):
these accolades without plugginginto God or whatever the case
is, and you're not having thatrelationship, you're missing the
whole point.
That's the whole.
That's it.
That's what Peter recognizesLike you can have.
You know, like what?
If they did catch the fish thatday and they were to bring it
in and they were diligent, theydid everything, they could look
at that as God's blessing.
But then I have the opportunityto sit with Jesus.
(42:24):
Yeah, so you know, like, if youdo diligent, if you work in
diligence, and you're gettingblessed.
But if you're not jumping offthe boat towards Jesus, man,
you're missing the whole pointof all this.
Like, earth is temporary.
Everything's so temporary thatif, if we gain everything on
this earth and you lose yoursoul, what's the whole point?
Man Like, so I think therelationship part with Jesus is
(42:47):
the most critical piece in allof this man, it's like who cares
if it's abundance and who caresif it's nothing?
Man, I want that relationshipbecause that's the whole point,
you know, and I want him to useme and that's why I'm diligent,
and so my cup can be emptied andready to be filled, to overflow
into others.
But faith without action isdead, true, but also, if you
(43:08):
just do the works and you don'thave the faith, then what's the
whole point?
Speaker 1 (43:12):
You want to close this up, Richie?
Speaker 2 (43:14):
Yeah, so when the miracle happened and they gained
the fish, and then Peter swamto shore to find Jesus and
there's more to the story whichis out of context of what I'm um
, I don't say out of context,but you know what?
Peter uh, got reinstated forsome things that happened with
(43:36):
him and Jesus.
But, um, before all that, whenPeter and the disciples came to
shore, uh, jesus already had afire going came to shore, jesus
already had a fire going, so hewas already knowing that they
were going to catch fish, theywere going to bring it to shore,
it was going to be 153 and theywere going to sit and have
(43:57):
breakfast.
And he says that have breakfastwith me, you know, and that was
huge for me because, like I wassharing earlier, man, I have a
hard time with, like,celebrating those wins, because
I don't want to step out of thepocket of gratitude, as you were
sharing, and I don't want toget in this place like I earned
it or I deserved it or you know,and we can easily fall into
that because we're putting inthe work, you know.
(44:18):
And so when I say we're puttingin the work, physically and
emotionally, we are attached tothe work we're doing, so we feel
everything we're going throughand the energy we're putting in
so there can be that.
It can be very easy to attachourselves that we earn that, you
know.
And so when jesus has the firerunning and the miracles there
(44:40):
and grateful, yeah, we're outworking all day.
When I say we, you know, justrelating with the fishermen,
we're out there working all day.
We're putting in the sweat andtears, we're using all our
resources, we're doing thediligence thing.
We even obeyed, out ofobedience to the voice we heard
to put on the other side.
We get all this fish.
We bring it back in.
Now.
This is a point where you knowit's okay to celebrate your win,
(45:00):
have breakfast with Jesus, man,you know like that's now is it?
He said have breakfast with me.
So what that means is takingthe gain.
You know that you just gained,whatever it was uh, projects,
profits, products sold andsaying sit, have breakfast with
me.
You know, have breakfast withme.
Let's cut that fish up, let'sput it on the grill, let's put
(45:22):
some seasoning on it, let's havesome conversation, let's smile,
let let's laugh, let's let thebreeze hit us while we're on the
on the shore, let's just havethis opportunity just to hang
and celebrate the fish we justbrought in.
You know, I mean, it's like,like, have breakfast with me.
That's what, like I'm I'mlearning is when there is a win
and there are gonna be hatersout there that's another thing
(45:43):
too is, like you know, people,people are going to curse and
hate when you're winning andthey're not, but when you attach
Jesus to it and the testimonyto it, I believe it will speak
wonders.
And so I think it's OK tocelebrate, and that's what this
book was.
It was just a or not this book,but that chapter in the book
was just a short celebration andhaving breakfast with Jesus and
(46:03):
just sharing like you know whatGod did.
And having breakfast with Jesusand just sharing like you know
what God did.
I'm grateful for it.
And I'm sitting and I'menjoying some fish with him,
some eggs, some bacon, you know,and like just whatever you know
breakfast you like.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Fellowshiping with the Lord, man Just fellowshiping
with the.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Lord man, can you imagine just sitting there with
Jesus having breakfast, man,after not seeing him and
thinking he's dead, and now he'salive and he's revealing that
to you and just the miracle youjust witnessed.
And so, yeah, just carryingthat, you know, with that heart
position when you know things gosouth in the valley and you
don't like it, or if they gonorth in a place where you feel
like you know it was a successor whatever it is, you don't
(46:41):
like it if they go north in aplace where you feel like you
know it was a success orwhatever it is.
The true success is whateveryou do bring to the shore.
Make sure you're sitting downand enjoying that breakfast with
Jesus.
You.
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