In this episode of Building Billions, I sit down with UFC fighter Michael Chandler to discuss optimizing health, wellness, and maintaining a competitive edge. Chandler opens up about the unexpected news of Conor McGregor pulling out of their highly anticipated lightweight bout. Plus, we get an inside look at his game plan as he prepares for a rematch with Charles Oliveira at UFC 309. From strategy adjustments to mindset shifts, Chandler breaks down how he’s preparing to reclaim his shot at the lightweight title. From the impact of precision-based health protocols to the importance of pushing limits both mentally and physically, this episode dives into strategies for becoming the best version of yourself.
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S1 (00:00):
It's Brandon Dawson here, CEO and co-founder of Ten-x Health.
I am sitting here with a very good friend of mine,
an example of what optimal health actually looks like. Michael
Chandler from the UFC. We're going to be talking about
how to optimize your human health, your wellness and your competitiveness,
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how to keep that edge, that 1% edge to be
the best version of yourself all the time. Michael, thanks
for being on the show, man.
S2 (00:29):
Thank you for having me and I'm happy to be here.
S1 (00:31):
I see you got a ten x health shirt on.
S2 (00:33):
I did, and um, talk a little bit about why
you're sporting the brand, man. Well, I mean, obviously I
have tried to help hold myself to a high standard
and associate with high standard individuals and engage in high standard, uh,
activities to optimize this time that I have on this planet. Right.
(00:55):
We only get one life. We only get one body. Um,
and I get one shot at this, uh, quest around
the world quest around the earth. And I just am
constantly trying to, in my sport as a father, as
a husband, as a businessman, as a human being, just
trying to peel back the layers of any information and
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techniques and ways that I can become better. Um, and
Ted obviously comes from that.
S1 (01:23):
So talk a little bit about like your the first
time I met you was with Grant and Elena Cardone.
So you had a personal relationship with the founder of
the Ted movement, grant card. And, uh, and then we
launched the Ten-x health brand after that. What was the
first thing that caught your attention with the Ten-x Health brand?
S2 (01:42):
Um, so obviously knowing how Grant is and his his
mind for becoming better, right. Whether it's better in business,
becoming better in every area of life. Right. That's that
is the whole idea behind Ted. So let's not just
meander around this world and be average as then be
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average in business. Have an average life and there's nothing
wrong with those who are there. But we can always
be better. We were created for so much more than
we give ourselves credit for. You know, we were created
for so much more impact and so much more squeezing
out every ounce of this life that we can with
this one shot that we give. And obviously that has
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been his mindset. And then obviously with Ten-x health, um,
you know, obviously fighting in the UFC, I saw firsthand
my boss, Dana White, um, and how he went from
admittedly very unhealthy, overweight, low energy, was in pain, bending
over to tie his shoes, um, to now the healthiest
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he has ever been at the oldest he has ever been.
He at now. Now at his age, which is 50.
S1 (02:50):
Yeah, I think we're. Yeah. I think he's maybe a
year younger to me. I think he's.
S2 (02:53):
55, 55. Right. He is healthier now than he ever
has been in his entire life. And isn't it so
great how the UFC is flourishing? More is other business
adventures are flourishing more he is flourishing more as as
the CEO, as the president, as the guy who is
running the UFC. Um, so that really caught my eye.
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And then as I was watching it from afar and
doing all my own research and peeling back the layers
of the studies and all of the, um, literature out there. Um,
it was just a no brainer for me because I
get one shot at this fighting thing that I can
do it as long as I possibly can. And at
38 years old, I'm kind of the one of the
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guys who is still competing at a very high level
at my age, and it's kind of unheard of. So
I've been doing it right, but I wanted to get
that extra little 1%.
S1 (03:42):
So I remember Dana the first time we met with him,
he was a little skeptical that this teaneck's health thing
can work. Um, today, fast forward three years later. Now
it's two and a half years gone. He literally looks
like he could fight today.
S2 (03:59):
Yeah, he looks like one of the guys on the roster,
not the guy in charge of the roster. And isn't that.
S1 (04:05):
Amazing, that transformation from what you remember 2 or 3
years ago to what we both see today, a guy
that's full of energy, full of life, able to to to.
Like you said, I've watched him launch a couple different
businesses just in the last few years, all successful. Um,
and have the amount of energy he has. I saw
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him in Saudi Arabia for the first, uh, Saudi Arabia fight,
that the UFC fight that they ever did here a
few months ago. And he landed cold, plunged. He was
on a three day fast. He was full of energy,
full of fire. And then the fight was over. He
took off and he went and did his next mission.
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Like the guy looked like he was just ready, you know.
And so when you see that as someone that's that's
an ingredient. So you talked about Grant Cardone. I mean,
Grant is ten years older than I am.
S2 (04:56):
I know it's.
S3 (04:56):
I.
S1 (04:57):
Don't think.
S2 (04:57):
A lot of people realize that Grant is in his 60s. Yes,
he's 66 years old. I don't think people realize that.
You know, like, oh, he's ripped. Definitely.
S1 (05:05):
You next to each other flexing.
S2 (05:06):
Yeah.
S1 (05:07):
I mean, now you got me doing it. So the
two of you together flexing on stage next growth conference was,
like so badass. And to think that he's 66 years
old and, and, uh, and full of life and full
of energy is is is amazing. So you saw this
as potentially a competitive edge, huh?
S2 (05:27):
Oh, 100%. I mean, you know, it's to me you
have to like you said, Dana was a little bit skeptical, right?
We we live in a world where there's you can
get so much information and you have to really get
your information before you just make a knee jerk reaction
or a knee jerk, knee jerk decision. Right? So obviously,
as an athlete, I've been ingrained in how to get
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as much out of my body as I possibly can
since I was 14 years old was when I started
you hand to hand combat has now been 24 years.
I've been dedicating my life to this. So I've been
in that space for a long time. How do I
go from a young boy to a young man, a
young man to a man and a man to a
champion and highest of levels of fighting and try to
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get as much as I can. So once I started
diving into the research of it all, um, here at testimonials,
hearing the anecdotal evidence from people that I've been around,
obviously seeing Dana do it. Um, to me it just
became a no brainer because you can do all the
physical reps in the gym and you can eat right
in the kitchen. And, and, and there's these certain things
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that you have to do. But then there are all
these extra curriculars that can be added to your repertoire,
be added to your program that will not just optimize
you from a physical standpoint, but even a spiritual and
an emotional standpoint as well. As for me, it's another
thing that I get to add that I know I'm
seeing benefits from. So then I'm keeping promises to myself.
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So then I in turn increase my self-image. And it's
not just about me and my performance. I owe it
to my wife, who I've promised to my sons, who
I've made a promise to my fans who I have
around the world, who who watch me and enjoy being
entertained by me. I owe it to all of them.
Plus my creator who created me and gave me these
gifts to not just be good, but to be great.
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And if I want to be great and extraordinary, if
I want to get to that level of extraordinary, it
has to be extra. It has to be continuing to
do new things, reading new research, trying new things. And
then once you find those things that work, stick into them,
like your life depends on it.
S1 (07:28):
And for example, you just got your blood work done. Yep.
We're doing an evaluation. Our doctors are looking at your
blood work. Um, you've done the precision genetics. So you
get the whole report on what you should eat, what
you shouldn't eat based on your genetics, and then matched
with your blood, and then the type of workouts you
should or shouldn't be doing, the type of, uh, the
type of, um, supplements that you should or shouldn't be
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taken all this information in order for human And when
you when you look at all that and you see
this technology that's available because this wasn't really available a
few years ago. I mean, we're at the cutting edge
of this where the leaders and pioneers of it. When
you look at that data and that information and you think, wow, this,
this amount of content and information, in fact, it's what
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prompted you to be like, how how do I get
involved with you guys on this? Because this is this
is precision based wellness and health and accuracy. And when
you when you think about that as an average human being,
getting a guide on exactly based on your genetics and
your blood. How to systematically improve your life, what you
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should be ingesting, what your food sources um, that your IVs,
precision IVs, all this precision based health and wellness that
didn't exist five years ago. When you think about the
competitive advantage of accessing that for the average human being,
what what are your thoughts relative to the things because
you're seeing the inside of what we're doing? Yeah. I mean,
it's just it's.
S2 (08:54):
Such a no brainer and it's such an aha moment
because yeah, just think about your business or think about
my relationship with my wife. Imagine if there was just a, a,
a pamphlet that said, hey, this is exactly how you
should handle every single one of these situations. This is
how you should handle every situation with your kids. This
is how you should handle every single situation. When you
show up to your business, whenever you want to show
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up and speak, whenever you want to show up and
do a training. Whenever I want to go into a fight,
and I was able to open up a book and said,
this is exactly what you need to do to win.
We're kind of winging it when we're when we're when
we're training and we're putting together a game plan, we
don't know for sure if it's going to work. We
don't know how he's going to show up. There's so
many of these other aspects of it. But when it
comes to you and your human body, you have one
human body and there's billions of things happening to it
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every single day with what we are ingesting or what
we are not ingesting, or how much activity we are
not doing or how we're training. If there was an
owner's manual, there's a reason your vehicle comes with an
owner's manual and every single aspect of it, from the
bottom of the tires to the top of the roof. Everything.
It's an all encompassing. And then you can learn how
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to get the most out of your vessel that you have,
because we've taken it for granted, you know, and I
even said on stage the last time we spoke, it's
like you can probably be pretty successful and kind of
just be a, a very below average because we've seen it. Right?
We've unfortunately we've seen enough people who they're very unhealthy
and they're sick and they're tired and they're like, but well,
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they made it to a decent A level. But what
is their real what was their real potential. Right. It's
not necessarily about getting to a certain level. It's about
getting to the best level that you are supposed to
get to. And how much talent are you leaving on
the table? How many deals are you leaving on the table?
How much impact are you leaving on the table? How much?
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How much am I leaving on the table if I
don't reach that full potential? And we've. And now with
the cutting edge, the forefront of it with the cutting
edge of this spearhead. That is, we can show you
every single thing that you need to know about your
body from a genetic test or from a genetic standpoint,
that stuff that does not change and that you can
take your blood. Today. We can make some changes, make
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some tweaks, learn some things, and then six months from
now you get another, another blood test. And now things
have changed. And now we can make even more improvements.
And then six months after that, even more improvements. It's
it's not many things in life. Do you get an
exact blueprint for how to do it perfectly. And this
is this is just that. So for me, I know
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I'm performing at a great level. I know I do
things right, but if I want to be extraordinary, I
have to know exactly, precisely how to train and precisely
how to eat, supplement and recover. Well, now.
S1 (11:39):
When you think about that, that includes things like, you know,
we were taught we were joking around about how cold
is your cold punch, right? So talk a little bit
about this superhuman protocol that you've been incorporating into your training.
And what's the result of that?
S2 (11:53):
So I this last training camp, I was doing it
consistently every single day. And then I would come home
on the weekends and do it in Nashville as well.
So I would do every day. I would do the
cold plunge, then the UAE exercise with oxygen therapy, then
upstairs to do the pimp or to do the red light,
and then the pimp first thing in the morning and
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the pimp at night. So tranquility at night to go
to bed, vitality in the morning to kind of get
me up and going, um, sometimes the red light session
in the morning. So I was kind of just no, uh,
no amount is too much. So I would just be like, oh,
I'm bored, or hey, I want to read this book.
I'm just going to read it while I'm laying on
the mat, or I'm going to watch some film while
I'm laying on the pimp mat. And I had so
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much more energy for this camp and so much more
clarity to me. I always explain training camp like there's
this certain amount of weight that's on you, right? Because
there's a lot of subconscious weight. You know, we talk
about I trained for 16 weeks for one fight, and
that one fight is one night at one arena in
one cage against one guy, and I get one opportunity
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to do it. So there's that subconscious pressure. Even though
I've gotten very good at managing it since I was 14,
there's still this subconscious pressure and there's always this weight.
You know, I know I'm doing enough, but am I
doing it perfectly? Am I doing it? Am I doing
it the right way in order to be successful in
that one opportunity? The weight was so much different this
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training camp, because I feel like I had so much
clarity happening, which gave me more energy. And then it's
a compounding effect of a good day turns into another
good day, which turns into another good day. And it
has a compounding effect from a cellular health. I think
we we take it for granted. The fact that, you know,
all we see is clothes and skin and eyeballs and hair. Right?
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But there are how many trillions of cells inside of
your body. So actually going all the way down to
that cellular level, um, man, it's, uh, it has taken
it's taken my physical Performance to the next level, but
also mental when I know I'm doing what I need
to do right. Whenever I maybe I'd want to sit
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on the couch and I don't want to go jump
on the cold plunge, but I'm going to go do
it because I made a promise to myself. So you
get the physical aspects of it. And also carrying that torch,
knowing that every time I did it, every time I
did the whole protocol, every time I did my training
and did everything else, I'm doing it not just for me,
doing it for my wife and my kids, onlookers and
and my one shot at this life that I get.
S1 (14:19):
So let's talk about this, this big preparation you're doing
because you were, uh, man, you a couple months ago.
A month ago, I was watching some of the videos
and talking to you and seeing you. You could tell
the level of intensity getting prepared for this Conor McGregor fight. Um,
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and and you were pushing and pushing. I can just
see it. I could see the percolation of the anticipation
of that 15 minutes. Right. And so, um, talk a
little bit about because I think a lot of people,
they get, they get this enthusiasm and excitement about something
that's going to happen in their life. And then all
of a sudden it either doesn't happen or it gets delayed,
(15:02):
and then they completely deflate themselves, right? And then it's
even harder to start over for some people, like business
owners that are, uh, I see it when they're just
about ready to sell their business, and then the deal
falls through, right? And then they're like, oh, I don't
want to go back to work. I don't want to.
I was already mentally checked out. And you think about, okay,
so you're you're you're optimizing yourself mentally physically. You're getting
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in that, that zone. And then all of a sudden
somebody calls you and says this fight is not happening.
S2 (15:30):
Yeah. That was a very tough phone call. You know,
and it was you know, for me it was it
was the I had been training for it for six months. Uh,
not 100% because because the way we do our training
is like, I can't be going as hard as I
go in training camp all the time, or else my
body would fall apart. You know, you gotta incrementally go through, uh,
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periods and seasons that you go through. I'm training and
I'm staying in shape where I'm working on. I'm working
on strength, or I'm working on cardio. I'm working on skills.
But for that ten weeks leading up to that fight,
I was fully focused on that training camp against one
guy on June 29th. Right. And about a week prior,
rumblings started happening about a possible injury or a possible
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fight in jeopardy. And I just always had the confidence
to expect to see that the fight was going to happen,
and I stayed. I stayed optimistic all the way until
that phone call rang, you know? But when that phone
call came, it was very, very tough, you know? And
it's not just because of how being to fight with
Conor McGregor was, and the whole world was going to
be watching, and it was the brightest lights and the
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biggest platform and the biggest paycheck. It was it was
just as human beings, we we get let down in
these certain circumstances. And just like you said immediately, it was,
I am human. I am prone to wander. I felt
sorry for myself for a second. Right. And sometimes we
need those seasons of stagnation. We need those seasons of
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feeling sorry for yourself. We need those seasons of of oh,
woe is me to remind ourselves how truly strong we are.
We are truly resilient. We are. And how, um. And
this is something I, I picked up from you as well,
and how sometimes these things are the things that our
legacy is going to be built upon. Maybe right now,
in this moment, I am living through the most trying
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time of my career. Such a a huge setback and
letdown that my legacy and the way that I responded
to this, my legacy is going to be written from,
you know, um, so I gave myself an oh, woe
is me for a couple of days. Yeah. And then
I realized my life and my legacy and my worth
as a human being and as a fighter is not
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tied to this one fight. It will eventually work out
whether I fight him or I fight someone else. So
I started making some phone calls. You were one of them. Hey,
can we get together? Can you? Can I go? Be
of service. Put me to work. Right? Because sitting idle
is not good for me, you or anybody. We need
to be moving forward. We have to take action. Um,
being decisive and making decisions and moving forward and having
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movement breeds so much more confidence than sitting around between
our four walls and thinking about, uh, the bad things
that have happened to us and.
S1 (18:10):
Isolating yourself and being alone. Get yourself out there, man.
S2 (18:12):
That's what I did for a couple of days. Right?
And and man, I and and even even this too.
And and my wife is so supportive in this regard.
I was like, she's like, hey, listen, we love you.
I know you love your children, and I know you
love me and I'm your best friend. We are. But
she's like, but maybe you don't need to be here
right now. Like go, go, get on a stage. Go
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speak with someone. Go be with people who you are
like minded with and people who have gone through similar struggles, like,
you know, that marital relationship is, is so, so important.
But it's it's not the only relationship in your life
for certain seasons, right? You know, so she was like, hey,
go out, get on the get on a plane and
go somewhere, go do something. And then, lo and behold,
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I did my first trip. I went out to California
and filled in the TV show with my friend and,
and then, uh, got back energized. I was like, man,
movement is good, you know? And then booked a couple
podcasts via zoom and then booked a podcast in person
in Nashville. It was like, whereas prior, when I've had
these setbacks or let downs, it's like, well, I'm just
going to sit here and feel sorry for me. You
withdraw a bit. Yeah, until something comes by. Right. You know,
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and not this time.
S1 (19:17):
So that's why you're such a great example for the
Ten-x brand. I mean, if you the thing that attracted
me to Grant Cardone is he's like, once you've attained
your goals, you were thinking too small. Yeah. So ten
x your goals again. And when you hit them ten
x them and get just keep going. If you have
the skill and you can find the internal fortitude and
have the will, then just keep moving towards a stated
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objective or goal and ten x that after you've achieved
it and I think about you as a person, I
think about you as an athlete. Um, and I look at,
I look at the different areas of your life. I
see you tensing and focusing on tensing all the areas
of your life, because you and I both, like you said,
we don't think about Dana. If Dana White would have
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been the Dana White of three years ago, would he
have started so many new businesses and and had so
much success? Because I'm watching him as the Dana White,
the entrepreneur, not just the Dana White, the CEO of
the UFC. And he is such a brilliant guy. And
the things he touches turn to gold. But if he
let his if he let his health dictate who the
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Dana White of the future is, he probably wouldn't be
as creative. He probably wouldn't have as much energy and
he probably wouldn't be like to me, I view him
right now like, this guy is so wise on how
to build things and how to start things and how
to market things like Grant is a genius on promotion
and marketing, but the closest thing I've seen To a
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Grant Cardone when it comes to knowing how to promote,
knowing how to market, knowing how to build is Dana. Yeah,
and what a waste it would have been if he
wasn't optimized with his health to have the energy to
just continue to create because he's just getting into his prime. Yeah.
I mean, if you look at all the stuff he's
touched turned to gold. So as an example to to
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me or to you, we see these people in our lives.
Grant is that person to me, Dana, for me and
for you. And we start being around those people and
it becomes contagious. We're like, we got to be healthy.
We got to be. We got to have energy. We
got to keep moving. We got to keep fighting. We
got to keep winning. And I see you as a person.
I met you as a UFC fighter, but I see
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you now as a person, right? As a human, as
a friend, as a peer, and the heart to win
and the internal strength to push. I was watching you
on some of your training stuff, and I was just thinking, man,
I don't know if I could do I just don't
know that I could push myself that far and that hard.
And then I get around you or Ray Lewis or
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somebody to start, and they're like, come on, get in
this thing and work out. I'm like, I don't know, man.
And then you get in there and you're like, maybe
I can do it. Maybe I can push myself further.
Who are those people in your life? Who do you
look to and have you look to to say, I can? Yes,
I love it.
S2 (22:06):
Well, number one, to to sum all of that up,
you never know how far you can go unless you're
willing to go too far, you know. And I've always
been that guy who I'm always going to push myself
outside the comfort zone. But, you know, for me, it
started back in my college days with Coach Smith, who
was our coach, and he he continued to push us
and always let us know that there was another gear.
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And he always did it in a, in a, a
very stoic way. It was it wasn't brimstone and fire
and it wasn't, you know, it wasn't crazy harsh. It
was like I you're telling me I have another gear
and I want to find that other gear, not for me,
but for you and for the greater good of our team. Right. Um.
And then now it's my. My coach. Who? My coach. Henry. Who?
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Down in in Florida. He's my head coach. Robbie Lawler
is a UFC Hall of Famer, former world champion in
the UFC. He is one of my coaches as well.
He is a guy who is quiet with his words,
but loud with his actions and how he how he
handled his entire career. And then, yes, watching watching, uh,
Dana and watching him, even though he is my boss and,
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you know, we we have negotiations with the UFC and
I am fighting under him. I'm watching him from an
entrepreneurial lens because I've always had that entrepreneurial spirit, and
I've just taken so many lessons from the physicalities of
hand to hand combat that I can then translate into
the realm or the arena of building business and making
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money and being entrepreneurial and and creating relationships and increasing
my relationship capital. Um, and then from, from a very
little bit softer. Um, but also just as intense is
my wife and my two sons, you know, obviously my
two sons as the cornerstone of what I'm creating, this
masterpiece that I'm creating every day for them. But my
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wife is also a hard charging, get, get after it individual. Um,
she has her own career and she works extremely hard. Um,
so it's it's she is one of my main motivators.
So it's been, uh, it's been very good.
S1 (24:09):
So can you get some? Yeah. Can you just get
a little. Let's take care of me, dude. Yeah. Take
care of the guy. You know, stop sitting on your
ass over there. So when you talk about your wife,
I can just see it in your eyes, right? Having
great partners in your life is extremely important because they'll either.
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If you have the wrong partner, they'll be calling you back.
I've been in an environment where someone could be easily
saying like, well, you care, Michael. You mean you already
had a successful career. Why are you working so hard?
Who cares, you know. Let's just go do the next
thing and relax a little bit. And you. You deserve
to chill. And you deserve to have it easy now.
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And like, if you have the wrong people in your life,
that's the kind of conversation they're having. If you have
the right people, they're like, dude, you haven't even done
half of what you can do yet. You need to
get off your ass. You need to go out there.
You need to pound the ground. You need to hit
the target. Like like if depending on those influences you
have in your life, if you're surrounded with the wrong people,
they can just constantly pull you off target versus being
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around the right people that are going to push you
to be the best version of yourself. And when you
talk about your wife, I can see it light up.
She is one of those people that's like, get off
your ass, go get that cold plunge.
S2 (25:27):
Yeah, 100%. 1,000%. Because I because I, you know, we
are the closest to our, our spouse and our children
and who he lives underneath our roof. Right. And I
see the way she lives her life, you know, in
her similar but also different ways. And the little the
little daily disciplines that are non-negotiables for her and her
standards that she has set that she is going to
(25:49):
do every day. Right. Um, and we are each other's
greatest cheerleader. We are each other's greatest support system. Um,
mainly because for me, I love having a wife who
is career driven, who works. And that may not be
everybody's household unit, but it works very well for us
because she has the unique perspective that I will be
(26:11):
very understanding when she needs to go off on a
business trip, or needs to go travel, or needs to
put in a long workweek, or needs to work late,
long hours. And she understands what I need to go
to training camp and work extra hours, or go travel
to go do some promotional type thing or or one
of my obligations. And we get that with each other
so much. Um, and yeah, I mean, having having a
(26:33):
supportive partner, um, having a partner who honestly, I think
there's this very interesting thing where I think she's the
hardest worker I know, and then I'm the hardest worker
that she knows, and it's the most respectful and respectful
thing that we love the most about each other. Um,
outside of all the emotional side? Yeah, it's like she
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has so much respect for me because I'm always trying
to be better, and I have so much respect for
her because she's always trying to be better. And and truthfully,
I think conversations like this, it's a call to action.
Because truthfully, you know, we all come from different upbringings
and different different parent situations or different paths or different
wounds and insert the people that have been stymied and
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certain people have had their wings clipped and certain people
have had limits put on them. And it's up to
people like us who have already seen that light and
realized that there's so much more out there to inspire
and motivate them to just get 1% better today. Just
do one thing today to take a step forward today,
and then watch yourself be 2% better tomorrow and 2%.
S1 (27:36):
And that's really what it boils down to. If you're
going to be at the best version of yourself and
compete at the highest levels. You have to look for
the increments. It's not the big, huge swings, it's the increments. Right.
So let's talk about your gearing back up. It's coming. Right.
So September. Oh I wish.
S2 (27:56):
Hopefully.
S1 (27:58):
I've heard that it's supposed to happen.
S2 (28:01):
I don't know I don't know if it's happening in September.
Oh okay I don't know. Now there's, uh it's we
should be fighting in September. Unfortunately. The pinky.
S1 (28:12):
The pinky.
S2 (28:12):
Pinky toe. The pinky takes longer than.
S1 (28:14):
Six weeks or.
S2 (28:15):
Eight weeks. I'll tell you what you know. You know,
we're ready. Um, it's, uh, I think it'll be a
little bit longer than that, unfortunately, but by the end
of the year.
S1 (28:25):
Would you have fought with a broken pinky toe?
S2 (28:27):
I would have fallen. Broken? And not just because it
was Connor. I mean, I've still to this day, I've
never missed weight. And I've never pulled out of a fight,
never missed a wrestling match. Um, part of that is luck.
Part of that is, you know uh, being, being having
a well enabled body. And part of it is me
just gritting my teeth and never, never not showing up,
but undefeated in that regard. Yeah. So it's tough. Yeah.
S1 (28:50):
Well, it started in the next cold plunges. Yep. You
guys sitting in there for 26 minutes? Yeah. Yeah. 38 degree.
S2 (28:58):
Water. Yeah. Cold. Yeah. Las Vegas, Nevada. The Ultimate Fighter 31. Um, luckily,
I had started kind of cold exposure before that challenge.
Because they don't tell you what the challenge is going
to be. Um, and then all of a sudden, you
just show up, they open the doors, and we saw
the two pro plunges and saw the ten x on
the side and the two units sitting there. I was like, okay,
(29:19):
we're definitely getting to the ten x Pro plunge. And
then Bruce Buffer is there about to start reading, uh, trivia,
which whether I was in, obviously they were thinking, okay,
if we put him in cold water, they're not going
to be able to think as well for that long.
But I would have lost. I would have lost the, uh, trivia. Anyway,
I don't really know my mixed martial arts trivia that well,
but it was just insult to injury that I was
in 37 and 38 degree water for 20 something.
S1 (29:42):
Yeah, it was supposed to be ten or something, right?
S2 (29:44):
Yeah. They kept messing. Yeah, it's show business, right? Yeah.
Reality TV, it's like, oh, hold on, can we redo that?
And I'm like, no, you can't redo that. I am
in cold water right now. People making mistakes. And I'm like,
oh dude, we gotta we gotta wrap this up.
S1 (29:57):
Yeah. Dana. Dana was like. I was not happy they
were in that freezing cold water for 27 minutes. I know.
S2 (30:02):
I don't think they they I think they kind of
surprised Dana because I think, you know, obviously at that point,
Dana had been a huge proponent of ten-x. And the
wind spread the word so much, right, that he was
and he was pro budget every day. And, uh, I
think the producers were gone. Dana didn't love this. And like, yeah,
maybe Dana would have loved her for five, maybe ten minutes,
but 20 something. Yeah.
S1 (30:24):
Well, look, so you're you're going to be ready when
it's here. You're going to be ready. You're going to
be physically ready. You're going to be emotionally ready, and
you're going to be structurally ready. Because I know you
and I know you're looking forward to it. Yes And
so the one thing I'll just tell you is being
your partner at Ten-x Health, having you be such a
(30:44):
great example for Grant Cardone and the Ten-x brand. Um,
it's it's it's it's awesome for us to get to
work with you. Your integrity as a human being, as
a family man. Uh, it's really super cool, dude. And
I have so much respect for you. I am so
excited about what we're going to build together as well. Um,
(31:04):
and and and just watching you get in there and
crush your opponent and and then to see what's next.
Because I know you. I know you're going to keep iterating.
What's next? That's one thing I know about you I
don't stop. We keep moving, you know, and.
S2 (31:19):
And that's why that's why it's it's like is is
so much more beautiful when you realize that we were
created for community and created for relationships. And the maximum
amount of impact is made when you create meaningful relationships
with like minded, equally yoked individuals, you know, so what
you guys are doing, how you guys are constantly just
(31:40):
moving forward with your zeal for life. And yeah, it
is important to pat yourself on the back and stop
and smell the roses, enjoy the fruits of your labor,
but you're never doing it for very long. It's just
long enough to say, we did it, baby. Let's go
to the next thing. Right? And that's that's I think
we're so equally yoked in that. And I can't wait
to smash car or smash whoever it is. But we
(32:01):
keep on fighting and then we, uh, we, we take
Ted to all corners of the globe as far as
the east is from the west. And, uh, get the
word out that that this life and the human spirit
was created for so much more than we can even
think or imagine. But it takes the right steps and
the right people to help you get there.
S1 (32:19):
Yeah, man. So, so well said. I can't say it better.
So I want you to know I appreciate you coming
on the show. Uh, Grant Cardone specifically wanted me to
relay to you how much he appreciates you. And, uh,
we're really looking forward to watching you crush it, crushing
it with you, and killing it in life. Thank you.
You got it. Awesome.
UU (32:36):
Thank you, thank you.
It's Brandon Dawson here, CEO and co-founder of Ten-x Health.
I am sitting here with a very good friend of mine,
an example of what optimal health actually looks like. Michael
Chandler from the UFC. We're going to be talking about
how to optimize your human health, your wellness and your competitiveness,
(00:21):
how to keep that edge, that 1% edge to be
the best version of yourself all the time. Michael, thanks
for being on the show, man.
S2 (00:29):
Thank you for having me and I'm happy to be here.
S1 (00:31):
I see you got a ten x health shirt on.
S2 (00:33):
I did, and um, talk a little bit about why
you're sporting the brand, man. Well, I mean, obviously I
have tried to help hold myself to a high standard
and associate with high standard individuals and engage in high standard, uh,
activities to optimize this time that I have on this planet. Right.
(00:55):
We only get one life. We only get one body. Um,
and I get one shot at this, uh, quest around
the world quest around the earth. And I just am
constantly trying to, in my sport as a father, as
a husband, as a businessman, as a human being, just
trying to peel back the layers of any information and
(01:18):
techniques and ways that I can become better. Um, and
Ted obviously comes from that.
S1 (01:23):
So talk a little bit about like your the first
time I met you was with Grant and Elena Cardone.
So you had a personal relationship with the founder of
the Ted movement, grant card. And, uh, and then we
launched the Ten-x health brand after that. What was the
first thing that caught your attention with the Ten-x Health brand?
S2 (01:42):
Um, so obviously knowing how Grant is and his his
mind for becoming better, right. Whether it's better in business,
becoming better in every area of life. Right. That's that
is the whole idea behind Ted. So let's not just
meander around this world and be average as then be
(02:02):
average in business. Have an average life and there's nothing
wrong with those who are there. But we can always
be better. We were created for so much more than
we give ourselves credit for. You know, we were created
for so much more impact and so much more squeezing
out every ounce of this life that we can with
this one shot that we give. And obviously that has
(02:23):
been his mindset. And then obviously with Ten-x health, um,
you know, obviously fighting in the UFC, I saw firsthand
my boss, Dana White, um, and how he went from
admittedly very unhealthy, overweight, low energy, was in pain, bending
over to tie his shoes, um, to now the healthiest
(02:44):
he has ever been at the oldest he has ever been.
He at now. Now at his age, which is 50.
S1 (02:50):
Yeah, I think we're. Yeah. I think he's maybe a
year younger to me. I think he's.
S2 (02:53):
55, 55. Right. He is healthier now than he ever
has been in his entire life. And isn't it so
great how the UFC is flourishing? More is other business
adventures are flourishing more he is flourishing more as as
the CEO, as the president, as the guy who is
running the UFC. Um, so that really caught my eye.
(03:13):
And then as I was watching it from afar and
doing all my own research and peeling back the layers
of the studies and all of the, um, literature out there. Um,
it was just a no brainer for me because I
get one shot at this fighting thing that I can
do it as long as I possibly can. And at
38 years old, I'm kind of the one of the
(03:33):
guys who is still competing at a very high level
at my age, and it's kind of unheard of. So
I've been doing it right, but I wanted to get
that extra little 1%.
S1 (03:42):
So I remember Dana the first time we met with him,
he was a little skeptical that this teaneck's health thing
can work. Um, today, fast forward three years later. Now
it's two and a half years gone. He literally looks
like he could fight today.
S2 (03:59):
Yeah, he looks like one of the guys on the roster,
not the guy in charge of the roster. And isn't that.
S1 (04:05):
Amazing, that transformation from what you remember 2 or 3
years ago to what we both see today, a guy
that's full of energy, full of life, able to to to.
Like you said, I've watched him launch a couple different
businesses just in the last few years, all successful. Um,
and have the amount of energy he has. I saw
(04:25):
him in Saudi Arabia for the first, uh, Saudi Arabia fight,
that the UFC fight that they ever did here a
few months ago. And he landed cold, plunged. He was
on a three day fast. He was full of energy,
full of fire. And then the fight was over. He
took off and he went and did his next mission.
(04:45):
Like the guy looked like he was just ready, you know.
And so when you see that as someone that's that's
an ingredient. So you talked about Grant Cardone. I mean,
Grant is ten years older than I am.
S2 (04:56):
I know it's.
S3 (04:56):
I.
S1 (04:57):
Don't think.
S2 (04:57):
A lot of people realize that Grant is in his 60s. Yes,
he's 66 years old. I don't think people realize that.
You know, like, oh, he's ripped. Definitely.
S1 (05:05):
You next to each other flexing.
S2 (05:06):
Yeah.
S1 (05:07):
I mean, now you got me doing it. So the
two of you together flexing on stage next growth conference was,
like so badass. And to think that he's 66 years
old and, and, uh, and full of life and full
of energy is is is amazing. So you saw this
as potentially a competitive edge, huh?
S2 (05:27):
Oh, 100%. I mean, you know, it's to me you
have to like you said, Dana was a little bit skeptical, right?
We we live in a world where there's you can
get so much information and you have to really get
your information before you just make a knee jerk reaction
or a knee jerk, knee jerk decision. Right? So obviously,
as an athlete, I've been ingrained in how to get
(05:48):
as much out of my body as I possibly can
since I was 14 years old was when I started
you hand to hand combat has now been 24 years.
I've been dedicating my life to this. So I've been
in that space for a long time. How do I
go from a young boy to a young man, a
young man to a man and a man to a
champion and highest of levels of fighting and try to
(06:08):
get as much as I can. So once I started
diving into the research of it all, um, here at testimonials,
hearing the anecdotal evidence from people that I've been around,
obviously seeing Dana do it. Um, to me it just
became a no brainer because you can do all the
physical reps in the gym and you can eat right
in the kitchen. And, and, and there's these certain things
(06:28):
that you have to do. But then there are all
these extra curriculars that can be added to your repertoire,
be added to your program that will not just optimize
you from a physical standpoint, but even a spiritual and
an emotional standpoint as well. As for me, it's another
thing that I get to add that I know I'm
seeing benefits from. So then I'm keeping promises to myself.
(06:50):
So then I in turn increase my self-image. And it's
not just about me and my performance. I owe it
to my wife, who I've promised to my sons, who
I've made a promise to my fans who I have
around the world, who who watch me and enjoy being
entertained by me. I owe it to all of them.
Plus my creator who created me and gave me these
gifts to not just be good, but to be great.
(07:13):
And if I want to be great and extraordinary, if
I want to get to that level of extraordinary, it
has to be extra. It has to be continuing to
do new things, reading new research, trying new things. And
then once you find those things that work, stick into them,
like your life depends on it.
S1 (07:28):
And for example, you just got your blood work done. Yep.
We're doing an evaluation. Our doctors are looking at your
blood work. Um, you've done the precision genetics. So you
get the whole report on what you should eat, what
you shouldn't eat based on your genetics, and then matched
with your blood, and then the type of workouts you
should or shouldn't be doing, the type of, uh, the
type of, um, supplements that you should or shouldn't be
(07:50):
taken all this information in order for human And when
you when you look at all that and you see
this technology that's available because this wasn't really available a
few years ago. I mean, we're at the cutting edge
of this where the leaders and pioneers of it. When
you look at that data and that information and you think, wow, this,
this amount of content and information, in fact, it's what
(08:11):
prompted you to be like, how how do I get
involved with you guys on this? Because this is this
is precision based wellness and health and accuracy. And when
you when you think about that as an average human being,
getting a guide on exactly based on your genetics and
your blood. How to systematically improve your life, what you
(08:33):
should be ingesting, what your food sources um, that your IVs,
precision IVs, all this precision based health and wellness that
didn't exist five years ago. When you think about the
competitive advantage of accessing that for the average human being,
what what are your thoughts relative to the things because
you're seeing the inside of what we're doing? Yeah. I mean,
it's just it's.
S2 (08:54):
Such a no brainer and it's such an aha moment
because yeah, just think about your business or think about
my relationship with my wife. Imagine if there was just a, a,
a pamphlet that said, hey, this is exactly how you
should handle every single one of these situations. This is
how you should handle every situation with your kids. This
is how you should handle every single situation. When you
show up to your business, whenever you want to show
(09:14):
up and speak, whenever you want to show up and
do a training. Whenever I want to go into a fight,
and I was able to open up a book and said,
this is exactly what you need to do to win.
We're kind of winging it when we're when we're when
we're training and we're putting together a game plan, we
don't know for sure if it's going to work. We
don't know how he's going to show up. There's so
many of these other aspects of it. But when it
comes to you and your human body, you have one
human body and there's billions of things happening to it
(09:38):
every single day with what we are ingesting or what
we are not ingesting, or how much activity we are
not doing or how we're training. If there was an
owner's manual, there's a reason your vehicle comes with an
owner's manual and every single aspect of it, from the
bottom of the tires to the top of the roof. Everything.
It's an all encompassing. And then you can learn how
(09:58):
to get the most out of your vessel that you have,
because we've taken it for granted, you know, and I
even said on stage the last time we spoke, it's
like you can probably be pretty successful and kind of
just be a, a very below average because we've seen it. Right?
We've unfortunately we've seen enough people who they're very unhealthy
and they're sick and they're tired and they're like, but well,
(10:21):
they made it to a decent A level. But what
is their real what was their real potential. Right. It's
not necessarily about getting to a certain level. It's about
getting to the best level that you are supposed to
get to. And how much talent are you leaving on
the table? How many deals are you leaving on the table?
How much impact are you leaving on the table? How much?
(10:42):
How much am I leaving on the table if I
don't reach that full potential? And we've. And now with
the cutting edge, the forefront of it with the cutting
edge of this spearhead. That is, we can show you
every single thing that you need to know about your
body from a genetic test or from a genetic standpoint,
that stuff that does not change and that you can
take your blood. Today. We can make some changes, make
(11:06):
some tweaks, learn some things, and then six months from
now you get another, another blood test. And now things
have changed. And now we can make even more improvements.
And then six months after that, even more improvements. It's
it's not many things in life. Do you get an
exact blueprint for how to do it perfectly. And this
is this is just that. So for me, I know
(11:26):
I'm performing at a great level. I know I do
things right, but if I want to be extraordinary, I
have to know exactly, precisely how to train and precisely
how to eat, supplement and recover. Well, now.
S1 (11:39):
When you think about that, that includes things like, you know,
we were taught we were joking around about how cold
is your cold punch, right? So talk a little bit
about this superhuman protocol that you've been incorporating into your training.
And what's the result of that?
S2 (11:53):
So I this last training camp, I was doing it
consistently every single day. And then I would come home
on the weekends and do it in Nashville as well.
So I would do every day. I would do the
cold plunge, then the UAE exercise with oxygen therapy, then
upstairs to do the pimp or to do the red light,
and then the pimp first thing in the morning and
(12:13):
the pimp at night. So tranquility at night to go
to bed, vitality in the morning to kind of get
me up and going, um, sometimes the red light session
in the morning. So I was kind of just no, uh,
no amount is too much. So I would just be like, oh,
I'm bored, or hey, I want to read this book.
I'm just going to read it while I'm laying on
the mat, or I'm going to watch some film while
I'm laying on the pimp mat. And I had so
(12:34):
much more energy for this camp and so much more
clarity to me. I always explain training camp like there's
this certain amount of weight that's on you, right? Because
there's a lot of subconscious weight. You know, we talk
about I trained for 16 weeks for one fight, and
that one fight is one night at one arena in
one cage against one guy, and I get one opportunity
(12:55):
to do it. So there's that subconscious pressure. Even though
I've gotten very good at managing it since I was 14,
there's still this subconscious pressure and there's always this weight.
You know, I know I'm doing enough, but am I
doing it perfectly? Am I doing it? Am I doing
it the right way in order to be successful in
that one opportunity? The weight was so much different this
(13:15):
training camp, because I feel like I had so much
clarity happening, which gave me more energy. And then it's
a compounding effect of a good day turns into another
good day, which turns into another good day. And it
has a compounding effect from a cellular health. I think
we we take it for granted. The fact that, you know,
all we see is clothes and skin and eyeballs and hair. Right?
(13:36):
But there are how many trillions of cells inside of
your body. So actually going all the way down to
that cellular level, um, man, it's, uh, it has taken
it's taken my physical Performance to the next level, but
also mental when I know I'm doing what I need
to do right. Whenever I maybe I'd want to sit
(13:57):
on the couch and I don't want to go jump
on the cold plunge, but I'm going to go do
it because I made a promise to myself. So you
get the physical aspects of it. And also carrying that torch,
knowing that every time I did it, every time I
did the whole protocol, every time I did my training
and did everything else, I'm doing it not just for me,
doing it for my wife and my kids, onlookers and
and my one shot at this life that I get.
S1 (14:19):
So let's talk about this, this big preparation you're doing
because you were, uh, man, you a couple months ago.
A month ago, I was watching some of the videos
and talking to you and seeing you. You could tell
the level of intensity getting prepared for this Conor McGregor fight. Um,
(14:40):
and and you were pushing and pushing. I can just
see it. I could see the percolation of the anticipation
of that 15 minutes. Right. And so, um, talk a
little bit about because I think a lot of people,
they get, they get this enthusiasm and excitement about something
that's going to happen in their life. And then all
of a sudden it either doesn't happen or it gets delayed,
(15:02):
and then they completely deflate themselves, right? And then it's
even harder to start over for some people, like business
owners that are, uh, I see it when they're just
about ready to sell their business, and then the deal
falls through, right? And then they're like, oh, I don't
want to go back to work. I don't want to.
I was already mentally checked out. And you think about, okay,
so you're you're you're optimizing yourself mentally physically. You're getting
(15:25):
in that, that zone. And then all of a sudden
somebody calls you and says this fight is not happening.
S2 (15:30):
Yeah. That was a very tough phone call. You know,
and it was you know, for me it was it
was the I had been training for it for six months. Uh,
not 100% because because the way we do our training
is like, I can't be going as hard as I
go in training camp all the time, or else my
body would fall apart. You know, you gotta incrementally go through, uh,
(15:51):
periods and seasons that you go through. I'm training and
I'm staying in shape where I'm working on. I'm working
on strength, or I'm working on cardio. I'm working on skills.
But for that ten weeks leading up to that fight,
I was fully focused on that training camp against one
guy on June 29th. Right. And about a week prior,
rumblings started happening about a possible injury or a possible
(16:13):
fight in jeopardy. And I just always had the confidence
to expect to see that the fight was going to happen,
and I stayed. I stayed optimistic all the way until
that phone call rang, you know? But when that phone
call came, it was very, very tough, you know? And
it's not just because of how being to fight with
Conor McGregor was, and the whole world was going to
be watching, and it was the brightest lights and the
(16:34):
biggest platform and the biggest paycheck. It was it was
just as human beings, we we get let down in
these certain circumstances. And just like you said immediately, it was,
I am human. I am prone to wander. I felt
sorry for myself for a second. Right. And sometimes we
need those seasons of stagnation. We need those seasons of
(16:56):
feeling sorry for yourself. We need those seasons of of oh,
woe is me to remind ourselves how truly strong we are.
We are truly resilient. We are. And how, um. And
this is something I, I picked up from you as well,
and how sometimes these things are the things that our
legacy is going to be built upon. Maybe right now,
in this moment, I am living through the most trying
(17:19):
time of my career. Such a a huge setback and
letdown that my legacy and the way that I responded
to this, my legacy is going to be written from,
you know, um, so I gave myself an oh, woe
is me for a couple of days. Yeah. And then
I realized my life and my legacy and my worth
as a human being and as a fighter is not
(17:39):
tied to this one fight. It will eventually work out
whether I fight him or I fight someone else. So
I started making some phone calls. You were one of them. Hey,
can we get together? Can you? Can I go? Be
of service. Put me to work. Right? Because sitting idle
is not good for me, you or anybody. We need
to be moving forward. We have to take action. Um,
being decisive and making decisions and moving forward and having
(18:02):
movement breeds so much more confidence than sitting around between
our four walls and thinking about, uh, the bad things
that have happened to us and.
S1 (18:10):
Isolating yourself and being alone. Get yourself out there, man.
S2 (18:12):
That's what I did for a couple of days. Right?
And and man, I and and even even this too.
And and my wife is so supportive in this regard.
I was like, she's like, hey, listen, we love you.
I know you love your children, and I know you
love me and I'm your best friend. We are. But
she's like, but maybe you don't need to be here
right now. Like go, go, get on a stage. Go
(18:33):
speak with someone. Go be with people who you are
like minded with and people who have gone through similar struggles, like,
you know, that marital relationship is, is so, so important.
But it's it's not the only relationship in your life
for certain seasons, right? You know, so she was like, hey,
go out, get on the get on a plane and
go somewhere, go do something. And then, lo and behold,
(18:54):
I did my first trip. I went out to California
and filled in the TV show with my friend and,
and then, uh, got back energized. I was like, man,
movement is good, you know? And then booked a couple
podcasts via zoom and then booked a podcast in person
in Nashville. It was like, whereas prior, when I've had
these setbacks or let downs, it's like, well, I'm just
going to sit here and feel sorry for me. You
withdraw a bit. Yeah, until something comes by. Right. You know,
(19:16):
and not this time.
S1 (19:17):
So that's why you're such a great example for the
Ten-x brand. I mean, if you the thing that attracted
me to Grant Cardone is he's like, once you've attained
your goals, you were thinking too small. Yeah. So ten
x your goals again. And when you hit them ten
x them and get just keep going. If you have
the skill and you can find the internal fortitude and
have the will, then just keep moving towards a stated
(19:39):
objective or goal and ten x that after you've achieved
it and I think about you as a person, I
think about you as an athlete. Um, and I look at,
I look at the different areas of your life. I
see you tensing and focusing on tensing all the areas
of your life, because you and I both, like you said,
we don't think about Dana. If Dana White would have
(20:01):
been the Dana White of three years ago, would he
have started so many new businesses and and had so
much success? Because I'm watching him as the Dana White,
the entrepreneur, not just the Dana White, the CEO of
the UFC. And he is such a brilliant guy. And
the things he touches turn to gold. But if he
let his if he let his health dictate who the
(20:25):
Dana White of the future is, he probably wouldn't be
as creative. He probably wouldn't have as much energy and
he probably wouldn't be like to me, I view him
right now like, this guy is so wise on how
to build things and how to start things and how
to market things like Grant is a genius on promotion
and marketing, but the closest thing I've seen To a
(20:45):
Grant Cardone when it comes to knowing how to promote,
knowing how to market, knowing how to build is Dana. Yeah,
and what a waste it would have been if he
wasn't optimized with his health to have the energy to
just continue to create because he's just getting into his prime. Yeah.
I mean, if you look at all the stuff he's
touched turned to gold. So as an example to to
(21:06):
me or to you, we see these people in our lives.
Grant is that person to me, Dana, for me and
for you. And we start being around those people and
it becomes contagious. We're like, we got to be healthy.
We got to be. We got to have energy. We
got to keep moving. We got to keep fighting. We
got to keep winning. And I see you as a person.
I met you as a UFC fighter, but I see
(21:28):
you now as a person, right? As a human, as
a friend, as a peer, and the heart to win
and the internal strength to push. I was watching you
on some of your training stuff, and I was just thinking, man,
I don't know if I could do I just don't
know that I could push myself that far and that hard.
And then I get around you or Ray Lewis or
(21:50):
somebody to start, and they're like, come on, get in
this thing and work out. I'm like, I don't know, man.
And then you get in there and you're like, maybe
I can do it. Maybe I can push myself further.
Who are those people in your life? Who do you
look to and have you look to to say, I can? Yes,
I love it.
S2 (22:06):
Well, number one, to to sum all of that up,
you never know how far you can go unless you're
willing to go too far, you know. And I've always
been that guy who I'm always going to push myself
outside the comfort zone. But, you know, for me, it
started back in my college days with Coach Smith, who
was our coach, and he he continued to push us
and always let us know that there was another gear.
(22:29):
And he always did it in a, in a, a
very stoic way. It was it wasn't brimstone and fire
and it wasn't, you know, it wasn't crazy harsh. It
was like I you're telling me I have another gear
and I want to find that other gear, not for me,
but for you and for the greater good of our team. Right. Um.
And then now it's my. My coach. Who? My coach. Henry. Who?
(22:50):
Down in in Florida. He's my head coach. Robbie Lawler
is a UFC Hall of Famer, former world champion in
the UFC. He is one of my coaches as well.
He is a guy who is quiet with his words,
but loud with his actions and how he how he
handled his entire career. And then, yes, watching watching, uh,
Dana and watching him, even though he is my boss and,
(23:12):
you know, we we have negotiations with the UFC and
I am fighting under him. I'm watching him from an
entrepreneurial lens because I've always had that entrepreneurial spirit, and
I've just taken so many lessons from the physicalities of
hand to hand combat that I can then translate into
the realm or the arena of building business and making
(23:33):
money and being entrepreneurial and and creating relationships and increasing
my relationship capital. Um, and then from, from a very
little bit softer. Um, but also just as intense is
my wife and my two sons, you know, obviously my
two sons as the cornerstone of what I'm creating, this
masterpiece that I'm creating every day for them. But my
(23:54):
wife is also a hard charging, get, get after it individual. Um,
she has her own career and she works extremely hard. Um,
so it's it's she is one of my main motivators.
So it's been, uh, it's been very good.
S1 (24:09):
So can you get some? Yeah. Can you just get
a little. Let's take care of me, dude. Yeah. Take
care of the guy. You know, stop sitting on your
ass over there. So when you talk about your wife,
I can just see it in your eyes, right? Having
great partners in your life is extremely important because they'll either.
(24:33):
If you have the wrong partner, they'll be calling you back.
I've been in an environment where someone could be easily
saying like, well, you care, Michael. You mean you already
had a successful career. Why are you working so hard?
Who cares, you know. Let's just go do the next
thing and relax a little bit. And you. You deserve
to chill. And you deserve to have it easy now.
(24:53):
And like, if you have the wrong people in your life,
that's the kind of conversation they're having. If you have
the right people, they're like, dude, you haven't even done
half of what you can do yet. You need to
get off your ass. You need to go out there.
You need to pound the ground. You need to hit
the target. Like like if depending on those influences you
have in your life, if you're surrounded with the wrong people,
they can just constantly pull you off target versus being
(25:16):
around the right people that are going to push you
to be the best version of yourself. And when you
talk about your wife, I can see it light up.
She is one of those people that's like, get off
your ass, go get that cold plunge.
S2 (25:27):
Yeah, 100%. 1,000%. Because I because I, you know, we
are the closest to our, our spouse and our children
and who he lives underneath our roof. Right. And I
see the way she lives her life, you know, in
her similar but also different ways. And the little the
little daily disciplines that are non-negotiables for her and her
standards that she has set that she is going to
(25:49):
do every day. Right. Um, and we are each other's
greatest cheerleader. We are each other's greatest support system. Um,
mainly because for me, I love having a wife who
is career driven, who works. And that may not be
everybody's household unit, but it works very well for us
because she has the unique perspective that I will be
(26:11):
very understanding when she needs to go off on a
business trip, or needs to go travel, or needs to
put in a long workweek, or needs to work late,
long hours. And she understands what I need to go
to training camp and work extra hours, or go travel
to go do some promotional type thing or or one
of my obligations. And we get that with each other
so much. Um, and yeah, I mean, having having a
(26:33):
supportive partner, um, having a partner who honestly, I think
there's this very interesting thing where I think she's the
hardest worker I know, and then I'm the hardest worker
that she knows, and it's the most respectful and respectful
thing that we love the most about each other. Um,
outside of all the emotional side? Yeah, it's like she
(26:54):
has so much respect for me because I'm always trying
to be better, and I have so much respect for
her because she's always trying to be better. And and truthfully,
I think conversations like this, it's a call to action.
Because truthfully, you know, we all come from different upbringings
and different different parent situations or different paths or different
wounds and insert the people that have been stymied and
(27:15):
certain people have had their wings clipped and certain people
have had limits put on them. And it's up to
people like us who have already seen that light and
realized that there's so much more out there to inspire
and motivate them to just get 1% better today. Just
do one thing today to take a step forward today,
and then watch yourself be 2% better tomorrow and 2%.
S1 (27:36):
And that's really what it boils down to. If you're
going to be at the best version of yourself and
compete at the highest levels. You have to look for
the increments. It's not the big, huge swings, it's the increments. Right.
So let's talk about your gearing back up. It's coming. Right.
So September. Oh I wish.
S2 (27:56):
Hopefully.
S1 (27:58):
I've heard that it's supposed to happen.
S2 (28:01):
I don't know I don't know if it's happening in September.
Oh okay I don't know. Now there's, uh it's we
should be fighting in September. Unfortunately. The pinky.
S1 (28:12):
The pinky.
S2 (28:12):
Pinky toe. The pinky takes longer than.
S1 (28:14):
Six weeks or.
S2 (28:15):
Eight weeks. I'll tell you what you know. You know,
we're ready. Um, it's, uh, I think it'll be a
little bit longer than that, unfortunately, but by the end
of the year.
S1 (28:25):
Would you have fought with a broken pinky toe?
S2 (28:27):
I would have fallen. Broken? And not just because it
was Connor. I mean, I've still to this day, I've
never missed weight. And I've never pulled out of a fight,
never missed a wrestling match. Um, part of that is luck.
Part of that is, you know uh, being, being having
a well enabled body. And part of it is me
just gritting my teeth and never, never not showing up,
but undefeated in that regard. Yeah. So it's tough. Yeah.
S1 (28:50):
Well, it started in the next cold plunges. Yep. You
guys sitting in there for 26 minutes? Yeah. Yeah. 38 degree.
S2 (28:58):
Water. Yeah. Cold. Yeah. Las Vegas, Nevada. The Ultimate Fighter 31. Um, luckily,
I had started kind of cold exposure before that challenge.
Because they don't tell you what the challenge is going
to be. Um, and then all of a sudden, you
just show up, they open the doors, and we saw
the two pro plunges and saw the ten x on
the side and the two units sitting there. I was like, okay,
(29:19):
we're definitely getting to the ten x Pro plunge. And
then Bruce Buffer is there about to start reading, uh, trivia,
which whether I was in, obviously they were thinking, okay,
if we put him in cold water, they're not going
to be able to think as well for that long.
But I would have lost. I would have lost the, uh, trivia. Anyway,
I don't really know my mixed martial arts trivia that well,
but it was just insult to injury that I was
in 37 and 38 degree water for 20 something.
S1 (29:42):
Yeah, it was supposed to be ten or something, right?
S2 (29:44):
Yeah. They kept messing. Yeah, it's show business, right? Yeah.
Reality TV, it's like, oh, hold on, can we redo that?
And I'm like, no, you can't redo that. I am
in cold water right now. People making mistakes. And I'm like,
oh dude, we gotta we gotta wrap this up.
S1 (29:57):
Yeah. Dana. Dana was like. I was not happy they
were in that freezing cold water for 27 minutes. I know.
S2 (30:02):
I don't think they they I think they kind of
surprised Dana because I think, you know, obviously at that point,
Dana had been a huge proponent of ten-x. And the
wind spread the word so much, right, that he was
and he was pro budget every day. And, uh, I
think the producers were gone. Dana didn't love this. And like, yeah,
maybe Dana would have loved her for five, maybe ten minutes,
but 20 something. Yeah.
S1 (30:24):
Well, look, so you're you're going to be ready when
it's here. You're going to be ready. You're going to
be physically ready. You're going to be emotionally ready, and
you're going to be structurally ready. Because I know you
and I know you're looking forward to it. Yes And
so the one thing I'll just tell you is being
your partner at Ten-x Health, having you be such a
(30:44):
great example for Grant Cardone and the Ten-x brand. Um,
it's it's it's it's awesome for us to get to
work with you. Your integrity as a human being, as
a family man. Uh, it's really super cool, dude. And
I have so much respect for you. I am so
excited about what we're going to build together as well. Um,
(31:04):
and and and just watching you get in there and
crush your opponent and and then to see what's next.
Because I know you. I know you're going to keep iterating.
What's next? That's one thing I know about you I
don't stop. We keep moving, you know, and.
S2 (31:19):
And that's why that's why it's it's like is is
so much more beautiful when you realize that we were
created for community and created for relationships. And the maximum
amount of impact is made when you create meaningful relationships
with like minded, equally yoked individuals, you know, so what
you guys are doing, how you guys are constantly just
(31:40):
moving forward with your zeal for life. And yeah, it
is important to pat yourself on the back and stop
and smell the roses, enjoy the fruits of your labor,
but you're never doing it for very long. It's just
long enough to say, we did it, baby. Let's go
to the next thing. Right? And that's that's I think
we're so equally yoked in that. And I can't wait
to smash car or smash whoever it is. But we
(32:01):
keep on fighting and then we, uh, we, we take
Ted to all corners of the globe as far as
the east is from the west. And, uh, get the
word out that that this life and the human spirit
was created for so much more than we can even
think or imagine. But it takes the right steps and
the right people to help you get there.
S1 (32:19):
Yeah, man. So, so well said. I can't say it better.
So I want you to know I appreciate you coming
on the show. Uh, Grant Cardone specifically wanted me to
relay to you how much he appreciates you. And, uh,
we're really looking forward to watching you crush it, crushing
it with you, and killing it in life. Thank you.
You got it. Awesome.
UU (32:36):
Thank you, thank you.
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