September 20, 2024 • 30 mins
In this episode of Building Billions, I sit down with entrepreneur and motivational speaker David Meltzer to discuss the journey from financial insecurity to creating lasting wealth and impact. We reflect on our personal experiences with success, the pitfalls of materialism, and the deeper purpose of empowering others to achieve greatness. Learn how to shift your mindset, embrace abundance, and align with your purpose to create massive impact in this episode.
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S1 (00:00):
As Branden Dawson here with another episode of Building Billions.
I have a very special guest, somebody that I've been
stalking for the last 60 months, five years, to understand, um,
how this person has become so successful and I'm so
excited to have him on my show. David, it is
such a pleasure to have you on this show. Would
you tell everybody who you are, what you've done, and
(00:22):
then I'll explain why I wanted to have you on
my show.
S2 (00:25):
Well, I appreciate that, Brandon. And I am here because
you've built quite a community with your partners, our friends
that we have in common. Uh, but my story, I'll
keep it simple. It's a story of three worlds. I
grew up in the world of not enough. As a victim,
I had a single mom, six kids, five boys and
a girl. I watched my mom. I didn't listen to her.
(00:46):
But luckily, by watching my mom, I learned about the consistent,
persistent pursuit of my potential. Uh, I also, uh, knew
my mom's work ethic. Uh, working two jobs. A single
mom packing my dinner in a paper bag. She was
the second grade teacher and filled up greeting cards at
convenience stores that I wanted to be rich. And so
(01:10):
to come on a show about making billions and impacting
billions is right up my alley. But at that time,
in the world of not enough, where you're a victim,
all I cared about was the one thing that was
missing in my life. And I focused only on what
was missing, which was a lot of money. Every stress
that I had, distress, dis ease was related to financial insecurity.
(01:33):
And so I resolved that problem when I got out
of law school, instead of taking $150,000 salary plus bonus
maritime oil and gas litigation job, uh, in 1992, I
decided to be an entrepreneur to sell legal research online,
despite my mom telling me the internet's a fad. Despite
(01:57):
when I first started the Supreme Court, Justice Scalia told
me that nobody would ever do research on a computer.
You needed books. And I do that because that's part
of the journey of making billions of creating a different
self-image is don't allow other people to limit it. And
no matter how much they love you or you love them,
(02:19):
they don't give you good advice. They give you advice,
especially if they love you. Uh, to keep you secure
and stable, not to expand your own limitations, but I did.
I moved into the world of just enough for me.
It's a very optimistic world. Uh, three months, I mean, sorry,
nine months out of law school. I was a millionaire.
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Three years later, we exited for $3.4 billion. And I
expanded my skills, my knowledge, and my desire to Silicon
Valley and Sand Hill Road, becoming and learning about venture capital,
something you're well aware of. And expanding my technology acumen.
And in 99. At 31, I was worth over $100
(03:02):
million running Samsung's data division. Their first data device, called
a convergence device in 1999. It was actually a windows device.
Apple didn't have a device yet. It was a windows
CE device. Uh, and I was married to my dream girl.
I had everything I ever dreamed of except for I
lived in the world of just enough for me. Trading
(03:24):
and negotiating everything I had, including giving, uh, I would
buy things I didn't need to impress people I didn't like. Uh,
in my relationship with money was actually, I believe now,
it wasn't just a hope. I believed money could buy
me whatever I wanted happiness, love, whatever it was I wanted.
But I was in store for a big lesson. As
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my mom told me I was lost. My dad told
me I was lost. My best friend Rob, since the
fourth grade, who actually asked my wife to go steady
for me because I was too chicken and even my
wife told me I was lost. I realized that the
only four people that were telling me the truth were
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the people that told me I was lost and that
money didn't buy love or happiness. And that's why I
was so empty, trying to numb myself by surrounding myself
with the wrong people and the wrong ideas. And it
only cost me over $100 million to figure out that
my mom, my dad, and my wife and my best
friend were all right. They were the only ones that
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actually loved me. And as I processed that, I hated
all four of them for telling me the truth. I
realized I only hated one person myself. And so over
the last 18 years, after losing everything, I have shifted
the paradigm of perspective of abundance. I now live in
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a world of more than enough. I give more, I'm
giving more, I receive more, and I ask for more
than more. And I now am able and capable of
giving more and more, being given more and more, receiving
more and more, and continually asking for more. You see,
the two ways you get to where you want to
be are either help someone get to where they want
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to be, or ask someone who's already there for help.
Which is why I admire you and Grant and Sharon
and everyone I know in your circles. Uh, to understand,
not only is it important to help other people get
to where they want to be, which is always been
part of my ethos, but more importantly, be humble enough
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to live in the infinite loop and ask someone who's
already there for help. And so that's my story. I
did skip one little piece, uh, when I was living
in the world of Poor Me, I ran the most
notable sports agency in the world, Leigh Steinberg sports and entertainment. Uh,
Warren Moon and I started a global sports marketing company. Uh,
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it just goes to show you how my perspective has changed.
If somebody years ago would have asked me, hey, tell
me about yourself. I would have started by telling you
I ran the firm that they made the movie Jerry
Maguire about. I even forgot I did that because that's
not really part of my ethos or mission. My mission
is to empower over a billion people to make a
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lot of money, help a lot of people, and have
a lot of fun.
S1 (06:15):
So well said. And this is this is exactly why
I wanted to to talk to you, because you and
I have some very similar, um, experiences, I'll tell you
that when I sold my business, um, my first business,
I took public at 29 years old, it was a
Warburg Pincus backed roll up strategy high school graduate voted
least likely to succeed and and punch through that at
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the peak of my career when finally, after seven years,
we were going to make money, I was launching global.
Everyone in on a strategic side was throwing money at me.
The only consolidator in the marketplace, the only guy with
an internet software that could run for wall locations in
the space. My private equity guy said, hey, good job.
It was, uh, may of 2001, I was at the
(06:58):
peak of my career. Like I'd just come off a
celebration Orient Express through the Australian Alps from a supplier
that gave me $20 million just to be able to
come to the US. They flew me home, said this
was amazing. Uh, we're selling your company now. We get
all of our money back, plus all of our money
or plus 100%. And sorry, that doesn't leave much for you.
(07:18):
It's been great. And, uh, of course my response was, nah,
that's not going to work. I'm not selling my company.
And they're like, you and everyone like you. So here's Dan.
He's going to come in and sell your company for us. And, uh,
it happened so fast. I had to start over and
I literally started over. Um, but what happened is I
had this idea of, of, of instead of raising capital
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and acquiring businesses, I would go out to business owners
and say, I'll make you my partner and the capital.
Instead of raising capital, I'll use the money you spend
with me for me helping you, and then I'll give
you equity in my company. If we're successful together, we'll
do a little exchange between our businesses. And I built
the Largest hearing care group that outperformed their peer group
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three and a half to 15 times, sold it for
77 times EBITDA to $1 billion company in 2016, and
wired $45 million out to my customers and said, thanks
for being my partners and all of my employees. But
in the window of that, I did eight years of
research on small business. What allows them to succeed? What
causes them to fail? All these other things. But to
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the main point, I all of a sudden got my
$100 million, which was my target as well, and I thought,
I remember when the wire came in, I was in
with my wife. We were in, um, Greece, and we
were there because the company that bought me, I was
presenting to their leadership team. And the next day when
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I was presenting The Wire came in the day before and,
and I just, I, I thought that would be a
game changing moment for me, but I just looked at
my my Morgan Stanley account and I'm like, I couldn't
even believe it. I was in a little bit of shock.
The main point, though, is for the preceding. I integrated
my business into theirs globally, and we grew them from
1 to 4.5 billion in 36 months. And then I
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was done. Well, I had spent ten years with this
dream of doing all these things. And then all of
a sudden I had that 100 million. I started running
around with my billionaire friends, and everything you described is
exactly what happened to me. Over the course of the
next 18 months, I entirely lost my purpose. I never
had felt more miserable. I felt better when they fired
(09:25):
me because I was pissed about something that when I
had all the money and I was like, just burning it,
feeling like a loser because I wasn't generating. I was
just buying everything you could buy. I never had been rich.
And I went through that same cycle. And, uh, and
so when I hear your story and then I hear
your purpose of converting your skill set from me, me,
(09:45):
me to them, uh, billion people. Well, your story. So
this is where it ties us together. When I was
trying to figure out with my wife, who's half my age,
and she's like, dude, I'm not going to marry you
because I, I, I'm with you because I saw this
superstar who's going to change the world, and now you're
giving up on it and you're getting fat, you're getting lazy,
you're getting you're playing golf all the time. And that's
(10:07):
not what I bought into. We need to do something different.
And that got my shit together. So she made a
list of the top social media personalities, as she had
recommended in 2018, that I look at these social media
personalities because maybe I could bring all my work to
somebody to partner with them and then bring it to
the mass quicker. I thought that was a dumb idea,
(10:29):
by the way. And you are on the list of
the top ten. And so we started watching you and
I'm like, I love the thing that immediately impressed me
about you. And I'm telling you this 20 1819, the
thing that impressed me about you is that you and
I both know that when you're sitting with someone and
they're acting like they had done it and they're talking
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about it and they're throwing out generalities, it doesn't take
us very long to know if someone actually did it
or not. You can hear, by the way they're communicating
about the granular things, and as soon as you start
asking some questions, their stories fall apart. You were one
of the few people literally out of the 50 she
started with. We got down to like 3 or 4.
(11:11):
I'm like, this guy is the realest dude I can tell.
He is a real guy. He's really done it. He's
really been through the muck and he really rebuilt it
because of the language you use. The funny thing is,
and I want to share this with our listeners. When
you pivot from okay, it's not about me anymore, it's
going to be about how many people I can bring
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on this journey. The only people that actually do that
are the ones that A made it, because if they
hadn't made it there, they're so focused on me and
b they actually have a servant mentality, because I have
a lot of billionaire friends that don't give a shit
about anybody else. They're like, I did it. I rang
the bell and I'm just going to focus on what
I want. So I knew you were the real deal.
You're a great guy. I just couldn't figure out how
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to plug what I did into what you were doing.
So you're on a mission to help a billion people?
We're on a mission to help a million ten-x entrepreneurs,
business owners, knowing that if we do that, we ten
x it again, we help hundreds of millions, if not
billions of people as well. We're so aligned in what
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our mission is with helping people and bringing them value.
We just do it a little differently. And I and
I wanted to tell you, I it was time I
needed to validate that I was a real guy because
no one knew who I was. I had no social
media following. Nobody knew anything about me. But I wanted
to come on and tell you how much I appreciate you,
because you inspired me and your commitment to help people
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and the commitment to your work ethic to do it.
And your message is unbelievably inspiring, and it inspires me.
And you and I have never talked about this, and
we've never you didn't understand any of this about me,
probably because I've never told anybody. But it was time
that I told you this because. But I needed to
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do something with myself. Otherwise it comes from. It's just
another fan that says, oh, I love your stuff and
you're great. But I wanted to tell you, thank you
for your message.
S2 (13:10):
I can't tell you how much that means to me.
And you know, Denis Waitley when I was young, he's
a famous. He's like a Zig Ziglar. If you don't
know who Denis Waitley is, he has trained millions of
people in sales, and he lived in San Diego, and
I was a young sales guy in my early 20s,
out of law school, and I thought I knew everything
at that time. I was a great sales person because
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I have a genetic and an energetic inheritance to sell.
But I sold the wrong way. I would oversell back
and sell, sometimes lie, manipulate, and cheat as a sales rep, uh,
to make more money. Um, and Denis Waitley tried to
teach me how to sell in an abundant way. He
taught me value was given to help people with more
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of what they like. Take away what they don't like.
And I was very resistant. Uh, I was 22, 22, 23, uh, 20.
About 25 when I met him out of law school.
And I was resisting because I'm like, do you know
who I am? Like, I'm the number one sales guy
in a multi-billion dollar company, and I'm only 24, 25
(14:16):
years old. I'm going to be the vice president of
sales at 26. We're going to exit for billions of dollars.
Do you know who I am? And he said to me, David,
I do know who you are, and I am planting
a seed under a tree that I may never sit under.
And I've been blessed to see people like you, but
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more importantly, Dennis Whatley, and tell him and thank him
for planting those seeds, because I am a tree and
he's still alive in his 80s that I gladly allow
him to sit under, and the philosophy of Ten-x and
of Grant, and you and so many other people. My
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philosophy is more than a billion people, because I'll never
limit myself, as you know. And I'm looking for a
thousand people like you and Grant who will empower a
thousand to empower a thousand. That's a million times a
thousand is a billion. And I take a different approach.
But I appreciate you and the differences in our approach,
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because that collaboration, that coordination and the intention that we
give it. You're one of the few people I know
that they do say, think, feel and believed aligned with
their divine direction. They know how to handle the divine
detours because we've been there before, and they understand the
divine time that it takes to get there. And so
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for you to acknowledge the work ethic that it takes, because,
as you know, sometimes you're just planting seeds and you
really need to see a tree or two along the
way when every single day, seven days a week, you're
trying to enjoy the consistent, persistent pursuit of your potential.
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When people are laughing at you, making fun of you,
scoffing at you, and even in social media, attacking you
even about your weight or your hairline, or worse, your family.
You know in your heart that if I keep on consistently,
persistently pursuing my potential, uh, that eventually they'll applaud you
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and I applaud you. And I appreciate the applause that
you've given me. And it's on our mission that we
both will be billionaires, probably in a different way than
most people imagine. We'll do it by empowering over a
billion people that buy from each other and sell for
each other for life. That's a guaranteed method of becoming
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a billionaire, 1,000%.
S1 (16:47):
You know, I think I think a lot of people
ask me what's what has changed for me once I
became wealthy and and and adding to my wealth and
and really it's it's like my circle is getting smaller,
not bigger. It's it's like the, the the true inner circle.
I've had so many mentors, you know, John Maxwell started
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through his books and Sharon through her books in the
early 2000. And then by 2010 and 11, I had
the benefit to ask them to come speak on my
stages and then build relationships, and then over the years
worked in their businesses with them, helping them becoming very close.
And so all of my mentors I met through books and, and,
and what I'm very proud of is every one of
them that I went deep on, I actually built a
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very personal relationship with. And when you talk about because
something that really struck out at me and I think
this is the problem I have with many of these
people on social media, they don't do what you just
did and they don't do what I do. And this
is why I think most of them are full of shit.
You acknowledged the person that gave you the wisdom invested
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in you and helped you change your life. You acknowledged him.
You communicated what they did and who it was specifically,
and you ingratiated them because it's real for you. And
that's the give back. I have been doing that every
day now for the last 15 years, even before I
met these people, which is why I ended up meeting them.
But it's I watch people come through my programs, and
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then all of a sudden I see them on social
media acting like they're an expert, and they're not even
quoting any of the stuff that they just learned the
weekend before from me. And they're making it look like
and sound like it's them. And, and there's plenty of
big names out there. And you, you and I, if
we were sitting by ourselves having a glass of wine,
we'd check the boxes together. But I would never do
it publicly. But there are certainly let's just.
S2 (18:37):
Say there are 19 year old life coaches out there,
which is one of the most courageous and baffling things
I could ever have seen on the internet.
S1 (18:45):
Well, there's also some 40 and 50 year olds running
around saying that they're 100 millionaires. When you and I
both know they're full of shit, so. Oh, yeah. So
so so the the the bottom line though is, you know,
when somebody really, uh, been there because they're so thankful
and appreciative of the people who shaped and molded them.
And I want to just talk to you for a
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minute about, because a lot of people ask me, I
do a series on mentors and how to find them
and how to how to how to build a relationship
with them and, and then how to add value back
to them. When you think about some of your mentors,
including the one you just mentioned, like what? What were
some of the things you did in order to ingratiate
yourself to where they care about investing in you?
S2 (19:28):
What a great question. So first I read their books. Uh,
so I'm like you, whether it was Wayne Dyer, Bob Proctor, uh,
the Napoleon Hill Foundation, whatever it was, I read the books,
so I knew at least a framework of what they
could help me with. I wasn't just ingratiated because John
Maxwell was famous, or Sharon Lechter was famous, or Kiyosaki.
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I read their books, not just once by the way.
I am still reading today for the sixth time, Rich dad,
poor dad. And it means something different today because I've
elevated my frequency and awareness through wisdom and faith, to
be given more of the gifts that he is given
in that book is incredible. Um, and so the first
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step was I was more interested than interesting. And then
I went out knowing their framework, and I asked questions.
I asked for help, and then I returned and said,
would it help you if I. Would it help you
if I some people, it was, hey, would it help
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you if I drove you to the airport? Some people was,
would it help you if I helped, you know, build
your sales force or whatever skills, knowledge or desire it
was that I felt was aligned with the person I
read about, and I took the time to show up
and to provide value with an appreciation of who they
were today and where they wanted to be in the future. And, uh,
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it wasn't until I lost everything that I started to
do this. I had no mentors. Uh, if I had
asked for help, I would still have, uh, ten times
the money I had. Uh, but I had to learn
that lesson because I always helped people. That was just
part of my culture, my family, my upbringing is to
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be of service and of value to others. But I
was cheating myself and others because I was a surface player.
I gave to receive. I negotiated and traded everything and
thank God they didn't have social media way back then
because all the content on me, you would I I'm
so clean because I started doing content after I learned
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these lessons. If not, there'd be a shitload of. And
I feel sorry for some of these young kids, right?
Because there's so much shitty content on them right now
that they're going to have a difficult time in their
social silo cleaning up their past. That is probably true
about every 20 something in the world. I am so
glad there was no cell phones, no picture taking, and
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no social media in my 20s. Or I'd be trying.
I'd have to use life brand to clean up so
much of my content, because everybody would be like, Dave
Meltzer is full of shit. Because I was Brandon, I
was full of shit, but I'm not. Today. I spend
minutes and moments every day being full of shit, and
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the minute I catch myself, I stop, right? I don't
pile on. I'm still. I'm human, I lie, I manipulate,
I cheat, I oversell, but I immediately stop when I
see my past, and I certainly don't look for my
past in other people. I look for what I want
to become in other people. And so that's how you
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find these mentors? By being of service and value and
being more interested than interesting.
S1 (22:48):
There's this, I mean, I've heard some of you I've
heard some of the things that you've talked about in
the past, and I listened to you and I'm like,
I there's no point in me even commenting to what
you just said, because if I did, I would say
exactly what you just said. And and that.
S2 (23:03):
Any honest person would. Right.
S1 (23:04):
Well, and that's the thing is, that's when you know
someone's legit versus listening to some of these guys just
pounding on how smart they are and how successful they
are and how they're the greatest in the world. Like,
I can't, I can't do that. You know, I, I
first thought that was Grant Cardone. We landed on Grant
Cardone because I had engineered and surveyed 10,000 business owners,
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you know, ten years worth of work, FTI out of Chicago,
millions and millions to understand consolidation, rollup theories, uh, understand
where businesses break or succeed, 97% go out of business.
I just wanted to understand, how do we help people
so they don't have to go the traditional route of
trying to raise capital to build their business? And how
do we keep them from going out of business? Because
if the business fails, 83% of those businesses have family
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orientation if the business suffers and struggles, the family suffers
and struggles and the community suffers and struggles. And I
used to sit up there and look at who is
funding the baseball field and who is funding the football field.
When I was in high school, and it was always
what we consider the kids with the wealthy parents. And
so as I got older, I'm like, how do I be?
How do I have kids that have wealthy parents who
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can fund the things that the kids need to be
able to do? And I used to think that way, like,
I want to be one of those guys someday. And
so it pulled me into success. And then I got
caught up in being the greatest, smartest guy in the world,
only to have the the correction happen in a week,
right from the peak to a week to the bottom.
And so when someone goes through that and then they
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come back, you can just sense that appreciation and that
commitment to make sure other people don't follow that pattern.
So when I was listening to you, and as I've
listened to you and as I hear you, it's just
so clear, concise, precise, succinct. It's things you you like.
You would only get there if you grooved it. Water
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over rocks.
S3 (24:54):
Yeah.
S1 (24:54):
And and yet. And yet there's so many false prophets
out there talking about stuff. And this is the. I'm
a non-social media guy. Uh, although I have to, because
of my business. Right. So when I first saw Grant Cardone,
I was like, no chance because his first video my
wife showed me. But after looking at Grant Cardone through Elena,
actually going to one of his events and seeing his
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work ethic, and then actually meeting him and talking to
him and realizing you have the promotion grant, and then
you have the individual, the human being who really is
committed and dedicated to, to to seeing and pulling people
to success. I was like, okay, there's something different here
than what I'm seeing on social media where you are
the opposite. You were like, I love this guy. I
just not sure how to work with him, with what
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I do versus what he does, but I just don't
think there's enough. I was with Sharon last week. We
gave her, uh, a lifetime achievement award at Ten-x ladies
with Elena. It was so amazing. I loved her to death.
She's been a mentor and a friend since 2008. Um,
and I was. I was thinking about you. Your name
came up earlier on this year, and I'm like, I
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have never called to just say how much I appreciate you.
That's that's literally why I wanted to do this podcast,
is to tell you, thank you for being a phenomenal
human being, for communicating from your heart and your head
and for being an example to other people. And I
see how much activity you have going on. And I'm like,
the guy is just driven and committed to helping others.
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And that is the total purpose of this podcast is
just to salute you and and your success.
S2 (26:28):
I gotta tell you, it's so interesting. Number one, I
look forward to doing more with you and please invite
me to speak on stages. I'm doing something. Are you
in Miami as well?
S1 (26:37):
Miami? Scottsdale. I live in Scottsdale and Miami. We go back, so.
S2 (26:40):
We're we're at the Aspire tour. Uh, the, uh, I'll
be there on the fourth, so please, I have a
big dinner that I want to invite you to. But
then I'm in Miami right after, uh, with Tim Story
and David Williams.
S1 (26:52):
Love, Tim. He's such a dear friend. I bet.
S2 (26:55):
He is. Yeah. We just. Invitations, not obligations, will put
us together. But it's interesting that you talk about Grant.
And I'll also throw in another good friend of mine,
Gary Vaynerchuk. Yeah, both of those guys. Uh, I didn't
like their videos, but that doesn't stop David Meltzer. And
it shouldn't stop you. If you don't like Brandon's videos
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or David's videos, or Grant's videos or Tim's videos or
Gary's videos, we'll get to know somebody. Um, and then
all of a sudden, you'll start appreciating their videos because
you'll understand. And, uh, I really got to appreciate Grant
because I invited him to one of my dinners that
was right across the street from his office. I think
(27:39):
it was in Fort Lauderdale or somewhere in Florida. And
and the fact that he showed up and he was
so present and engaged, Engage and he was so intelligent
and caring and sincere. I'm a frequency vibration person. So
you can't lie. Your frequency doesn't lie to me. You're
either a high frequency or you're low. And Sharon has
(27:59):
been a mentor. High frequency. Tim's story. You know all
the people around you. You're surrounding yourself. And then Gary
was the same way. Um, and so I want to
encourage people, uh, that. Look, if somebody has a community.
Find out why. If they have a community, because they
have a low vibration and they base things off of
scarcity and off of lying, cheating, manipulating and stealing, then
(28:24):
don't be a part of the community. But there's a
lot of people out there that you're not going to get, uh,
what they're saying, what they're doing, what they're believing, what
they're feeling by video. And so just like, you know,
you shouldn't date someone just because they're the best looking
person you've ever seen or the worst looking person. You know,
you want to get to know somebody. Do the same
(28:44):
thing with the video. And I would use if somebody
has been able to build a big community, find out why. Uh,
and those are some great people that you surround yourself with.
And I certainly want to be a part of that
in a bigger and better way and serve that community
and share my community with all of you as well.
And so if that was the sole purpose of this, uh, podcast,
(29:07):
I certainly am gracious in saying thank you for thinking
of me that way and giving me an opportunity I
do want to share with your community. I always offer
my book for free, so please, anyone out there, I
sign my book, I pay for my book, I ship it,
I pay for the shipping. So this is purely an
abundant effort to get people to understand the framework in
(29:29):
which I live my life and the community. I have
to make a lot of money, help a lot of people,
and have a lot of fun. So email me directly david@meltzer.com.
I will do that and I would love to be
a bigger part of your community. Brandon, thank you so
much for having me.
S1 (29:45):
Absolutely. And thank you for joining me on this episode
of Building Billions with Brandon. I enjoyed spending time with
you and honestly, just such a pleasure, David, to to
be able to speak to you in person and I
can't wait to get together with you. We will include
a link for your book in this podcast, and I
am certain you and I will do some bigger things together.
(30:06):
And thank you for joining me on the show today.
S2 (30:08):
It's done, it's done, it's done. Thank you, thank you.
S1 (30:10):
Appreciate you buddy.
S3 (30:15):
Great.
S1 (30:16):
Thank you man. Appreciate appreciate you. Cool.
S2 (30:19):
My team will send some invitations. I just want to
get together in person and however I can be of service. Uh,
I have a deal with Napoleon Hill that I think
has great synergy with what you're doing. Um, and so
we can kind of lend a bigger audience and credibility
with Napoleon Hill to what you're doing as well. So great.
I've been working on that. And just great timing to
(30:41):
get to know you better. So thank you.
S1 (30:42):
Yeah. Good. Well, thank you for for for for who
you are and what you do.
As Branden Dawson here with another episode of Building Billions.
I have a very special guest, somebody that I've been
stalking for the last 60 months, five years, to understand, um,
how this person has become so successful and I'm so
excited to have him on my show. David, it is
such a pleasure to have you on this show. Would
you tell everybody who you are, what you've done, and
(00:22):
then I'll explain why I wanted to have you on
my show.
S2 (00:25):
Well, I appreciate that, Brandon. And I am here because
you've built quite a community with your partners, our friends
that we have in common. Uh, but my story, I'll
keep it simple. It's a story of three worlds. I
grew up in the world of not enough. As a victim,
I had a single mom, six kids, five boys and
a girl. I watched my mom. I didn't listen to her.
(00:46):
But luckily, by watching my mom, I learned about the consistent,
persistent pursuit of my potential. Uh, I also, uh, knew
my mom's work ethic. Uh, working two jobs. A single
mom packing my dinner in a paper bag. She was
the second grade teacher and filled up greeting cards at
convenience stores that I wanted to be rich. And so
(01:10):
to come on a show about making billions and impacting
billions is right up my alley. But at that time,
in the world of not enough, where you're a victim,
all I cared about was the one thing that was
missing in my life. And I focused only on what
was missing, which was a lot of money. Every stress
that I had, distress, dis ease was related to financial insecurity.
(01:33):
And so I resolved that problem when I got out
of law school, instead of taking $150,000 salary plus bonus
maritime oil and gas litigation job, uh, in 1992, I
decided to be an entrepreneur to sell legal research online,
despite my mom telling me the internet's a fad. Despite
(01:57):
when I first started the Supreme Court, Justice Scalia told
me that nobody would ever do research on a computer.
You needed books. And I do that because that's part
of the journey of making billions of creating a different
self-image is don't allow other people to limit it. And
no matter how much they love you or you love them,
(02:19):
they don't give you good advice. They give you advice,
especially if they love you. Uh, to keep you secure
and stable, not to expand your own limitations, but I did.
I moved into the world of just enough for me.
It's a very optimistic world. Uh, three months, I mean, sorry,
nine months out of law school. I was a millionaire.
(02:40):
Three years later, we exited for $3.4 billion. And I
expanded my skills, my knowledge, and my desire to Silicon
Valley and Sand Hill Road, becoming and learning about venture capital,
something you're well aware of. And expanding my technology acumen.
And in 99. At 31, I was worth over $100
(03:02):
million running Samsung's data division. Their first data device, called
a convergence device in 1999. It was actually a windows device.
Apple didn't have a device yet. It was a windows
CE device. Uh, and I was married to my dream girl.
I had everything I ever dreamed of except for I
lived in the world of just enough for me. Trading
(03:24):
and negotiating everything I had, including giving, uh, I would
buy things I didn't need to impress people I didn't like. Uh,
in my relationship with money was actually, I believe now,
it wasn't just a hope. I believed money could buy
me whatever I wanted happiness, love, whatever it was I wanted.
But I was in store for a big lesson. As
(03:48):
my mom told me I was lost. My dad told
me I was lost. My best friend Rob, since the
fourth grade, who actually asked my wife to go steady
for me because I was too chicken and even my
wife told me I was lost. I realized that the
only four people that were telling me the truth were
(04:08):
the people that told me I was lost and that
money didn't buy love or happiness. And that's why I
was so empty, trying to numb myself by surrounding myself
with the wrong people and the wrong ideas. And it
only cost me over $100 million to figure out that
my mom, my dad, and my wife and my best
friend were all right. They were the only ones that
(04:28):
actually loved me. And as I processed that, I hated
all four of them for telling me the truth. I
realized I only hated one person myself. And so over
the last 18 years, after losing everything, I have shifted
the paradigm of perspective of abundance. I now live in
(04:48):
a world of more than enough. I give more, I'm
giving more, I receive more, and I ask for more
than more. And I now am able and capable of
giving more and more, being given more and more, receiving
more and more, and continually asking for more. You see,
the two ways you get to where you want to
be are either help someone get to where they want
(05:09):
to be, or ask someone who's already there for help.
Which is why I admire you and Grant and Sharon
and everyone I know in your circles. Uh, to understand,
not only is it important to help other people get
to where they want to be, which is always been
part of my ethos, but more importantly, be humble enough
(05:29):
to live in the infinite loop and ask someone who's
already there for help. And so that's my story. I
did skip one little piece, uh, when I was living
in the world of Poor Me, I ran the most
notable sports agency in the world, Leigh Steinberg sports and entertainment. Uh,
Warren Moon and I started a global sports marketing company. Uh,
(05:50):
it just goes to show you how my perspective has changed.
If somebody years ago would have asked me, hey, tell
me about yourself. I would have started by telling you
I ran the firm that they made the movie Jerry
Maguire about. I even forgot I did that because that's
not really part of my ethos or mission. My mission
is to empower over a billion people to make a
(06:12):
lot of money, help a lot of people, and have
a lot of fun.
S1 (06:15):
So well said. And this is this is exactly why
I wanted to to talk to you, because you and
I have some very similar, um, experiences, I'll tell you
that when I sold my business, um, my first business,
I took public at 29 years old, it was a
Warburg Pincus backed roll up strategy high school graduate voted
least likely to succeed and and punch through that at
(06:37):
the peak of my career when finally, after seven years,
we were going to make money, I was launching global.
Everyone in on a strategic side was throwing money at me.
The only consolidator in the marketplace, the only guy with
an internet software that could run for wall locations in
the space. My private equity guy said, hey, good job.
It was, uh, may of 2001, I was at the
(06:58):
peak of my career. Like I'd just come off a
celebration Orient Express through the Australian Alps from a supplier
that gave me $20 million just to be able to
come to the US. They flew me home, said this
was amazing. Uh, we're selling your company now. We get
all of our money back, plus all of our money
or plus 100%. And sorry, that doesn't leave much for you.
(07:18):
It's been great. And, uh, of course my response was, nah,
that's not going to work. I'm not selling my company.
And they're like, you and everyone like you. So here's Dan.
He's going to come in and sell your company for us. And, uh,
it happened so fast. I had to start over and
I literally started over. Um, but what happened is I
had this idea of, of, of instead of raising capital
(07:38):
and acquiring businesses, I would go out to business owners
and say, I'll make you my partner and the capital.
Instead of raising capital, I'll use the money you spend
with me for me helping you, and then I'll give
you equity in my company. If we're successful together, we'll
do a little exchange between our businesses. And I built
the Largest hearing care group that outperformed their peer group
(08:00):
three and a half to 15 times, sold it for
77 times EBITDA to $1 billion company in 2016, and
wired $45 million out to my customers and said, thanks
for being my partners and all of my employees. But
in the window of that, I did eight years of
research on small business. What allows them to succeed? What
causes them to fail? All these other things. But to
(08:21):
the main point, I all of a sudden got my
$100 million, which was my target as well, and I thought,
I remember when the wire came in, I was in
with my wife. We were in, um, Greece, and we
were there because the company that bought me, I was
presenting to their leadership team. And the next day when
(08:42):
I was presenting The Wire came in the day before and,
and I just, I, I thought that would be a
game changing moment for me, but I just looked at
my my Morgan Stanley account and I'm like, I couldn't
even believe it. I was in a little bit of shock.
The main point, though, is for the preceding. I integrated
my business into theirs globally, and we grew them from
1 to 4.5 billion in 36 months. And then I
(09:05):
was done. Well, I had spent ten years with this
dream of doing all these things. And then all of
a sudden I had that 100 million. I started running
around with my billionaire friends, and everything you described is
exactly what happened to me. Over the course of the
next 18 months, I entirely lost my purpose. I never
had felt more miserable. I felt better when they fired
(09:25):
me because I was pissed about something that when I
had all the money and I was like, just burning it,
feeling like a loser because I wasn't generating. I was
just buying everything you could buy. I never had been rich.
And I went through that same cycle. And, uh, and
so when I hear your story and then I hear
your purpose of converting your skill set from me, me,
(09:45):
me to them, uh, billion people. Well, your story. So
this is where it ties us together. When I was
trying to figure out with my wife, who's half my age,
and she's like, dude, I'm not going to marry you
because I, I, I'm with you because I saw this
superstar who's going to change the world, and now you're
giving up on it and you're getting fat, you're getting lazy,
you're getting you're playing golf all the time. And that's
(10:07):
not what I bought into. We need to do something different.
And that got my shit together. So she made a
list of the top social media personalities, as she had
recommended in 2018, that I look at these social media
personalities because maybe I could bring all my work to
somebody to partner with them and then bring it to
the mass quicker. I thought that was a dumb idea,
(10:29):
by the way. And you are on the list of
the top ten. And so we started watching you and
I'm like, I love the thing that immediately impressed me
about you. And I'm telling you this 20 1819, the
thing that impressed me about you is that you and
I both know that when you're sitting with someone and
they're acting like they had done it and they're talking
(10:50):
about it and they're throwing out generalities, it doesn't take
us very long to know if someone actually did it
or not. You can hear, by the way they're communicating
about the granular things, and as soon as you start
asking some questions, their stories fall apart. You were one
of the few people literally out of the 50 she
started with. We got down to like 3 or 4.
(11:11):
I'm like, this guy is the realest dude I can tell.
He is a real guy. He's really done it. He's
really been through the muck and he really rebuilt it
because of the language you use. The funny thing is,
and I want to share this with our listeners. When
you pivot from okay, it's not about me anymore, it's
going to be about how many people I can bring
(11:33):
on this journey. The only people that actually do that
are the ones that A made it, because if they
hadn't made it there, they're so focused on me and
b they actually have a servant mentality, because I have
a lot of billionaire friends that don't give a shit
about anybody else. They're like, I did it. I rang
the bell and I'm just going to focus on what
I want. So I knew you were the real deal.
You're a great guy. I just couldn't figure out how
(11:55):
to plug what I did into what you were doing.
So you're on a mission to help a billion people?
We're on a mission to help a million ten-x entrepreneurs,
business owners, knowing that if we do that, we ten
x it again, we help hundreds of millions, if not
billions of people as well. We're so aligned in what
(12:16):
our mission is with helping people and bringing them value.
We just do it a little differently. And I and
I wanted to tell you, I it was time I
needed to validate that I was a real guy because
no one knew who I was. I had no social
media following. Nobody knew anything about me. But I wanted
to come on and tell you how much I appreciate you,
because you inspired me and your commitment to help people
(12:38):
and the commitment to your work ethic to do it.
And your message is unbelievably inspiring, and it inspires me.
And you and I have never talked about this, and
we've never you didn't understand any of this about me,
probably because I've never told anybody. But it was time
that I told you this because. But I needed to
(12:59):
do something with myself. Otherwise it comes from. It's just
another fan that says, oh, I love your stuff and
you're great. But I wanted to tell you, thank you
for your message.
S2 (13:10):
I can't tell you how much that means to me.
And you know, Denis Waitley when I was young, he's
a famous. He's like a Zig Ziglar. If you don't
know who Denis Waitley is, he has trained millions of
people in sales, and he lived in San Diego, and
I was a young sales guy in my early 20s,
out of law school, and I thought I knew everything
at that time. I was a great sales person because
(13:30):
I have a genetic and an energetic inheritance to sell.
But I sold the wrong way. I would oversell back
and sell, sometimes lie, manipulate, and cheat as a sales rep, uh,
to make more money. Um, and Denis Waitley tried to
teach me how to sell in an abundant way. He
taught me value was given to help people with more
(13:52):
of what they like. Take away what they don't like.
And I was very resistant. Uh, I was 22, 22, 23, uh, 20.
About 25 when I met him out of law school.
And I was resisting because I'm like, do you know
who I am? Like, I'm the number one sales guy
in a multi-billion dollar company, and I'm only 24, 25
(14:16):
years old. I'm going to be the vice president of
sales at 26. We're going to exit for billions of dollars.
Do you know who I am? And he said to me, David,
I do know who you are, and I am planting
a seed under a tree that I may never sit under.
And I've been blessed to see people like you, but
(14:38):
more importantly, Dennis Whatley, and tell him and thank him
for planting those seeds, because I am a tree and
he's still alive in his 80s that I gladly allow
him to sit under, and the philosophy of Ten-x and
of Grant, and you and so many other people. My
(14:58):
philosophy is more than a billion people, because I'll never
limit myself, as you know. And I'm looking for a
thousand people like you and Grant who will empower a
thousand to empower a thousand. That's a million times a
thousand is a billion. And I take a different approach.
But I appreciate you and the differences in our approach,
(15:19):
because that collaboration, that coordination and the intention that we
give it. You're one of the few people I know
that they do say, think, feel and believed aligned with
their divine direction. They know how to handle the divine
detours because we've been there before, and they understand the
divine time that it takes to get there. And so
(15:40):
for you to acknowledge the work ethic that it takes, because,
as you know, sometimes you're just planting seeds and you
really need to see a tree or two along the
way when every single day, seven days a week, you're
trying to enjoy the consistent, persistent pursuit of your potential.
(16:02):
When people are laughing at you, making fun of you,
scoffing at you, and even in social media, attacking you
even about your weight or your hairline, or worse, your family.
You know in your heart that if I keep on consistently,
persistently pursuing my potential, uh, that eventually they'll applaud you
(16:23):
and I applaud you. And I appreciate the applause that
you've given me. And it's on our mission that we
both will be billionaires, probably in a different way than
most people imagine. We'll do it by empowering over a
billion people that buy from each other and sell for
each other for life. That's a guaranteed method of becoming
(16:44):
a billionaire, 1,000%.
S1 (16:47):
You know, I think I think a lot of people
ask me what's what has changed for me once I
became wealthy and and and adding to my wealth and
and really it's it's like my circle is getting smaller,
not bigger. It's it's like the, the the true inner circle.
I've had so many mentors, you know, John Maxwell started
(17:09):
through his books and Sharon through her books in the
early 2000. And then by 2010 and 11, I had
the benefit to ask them to come speak on my
stages and then build relationships, and then over the years
worked in their businesses with them, helping them becoming very close.
And so all of my mentors I met through books and, and,
and what I'm very proud of is every one of
them that I went deep on, I actually built a
(17:32):
very personal relationship with. And when you talk about because
something that really struck out at me and I think
this is the problem I have with many of these
people on social media, they don't do what you just
did and they don't do what I do. And this
is why I think most of them are full of shit.
You acknowledged the person that gave you the wisdom invested
(17:52):
in you and helped you change your life. You acknowledged him.
You communicated what they did and who it was specifically,
and you ingratiated them because it's real for you. And
that's the give back. I have been doing that every
day now for the last 15 years, even before I
met these people, which is why I ended up meeting them.
But it's I watch people come through my programs, and
(18:16):
then all of a sudden I see them on social
media acting like they're an expert, and they're not even
quoting any of the stuff that they just learned the
weekend before from me. And they're making it look like
and sound like it's them. And, and there's plenty of
big names out there. And you, you and I, if
we were sitting by ourselves having a glass of wine,
we'd check the boxes together. But I would never do
it publicly. But there are certainly let's just.
S2 (18:37):
Say there are 19 year old life coaches out there,
which is one of the most courageous and baffling things
I could ever have seen on the internet.
S1 (18:45):
Well, there's also some 40 and 50 year olds running
around saying that they're 100 millionaires. When you and I
both know they're full of shit, so. Oh, yeah. So
so so the the the bottom line though is, you know,
when somebody really, uh, been there because they're so thankful
and appreciative of the people who shaped and molded them.
And I want to just talk to you for a
(19:07):
minute about, because a lot of people ask me, I
do a series on mentors and how to find them
and how to how to how to build a relationship
with them and, and then how to add value back
to them. When you think about some of your mentors,
including the one you just mentioned, like what? What were
some of the things you did in order to ingratiate
yourself to where they care about investing in you?
S2 (19:28):
What a great question. So first I read their books. Uh,
so I'm like you, whether it was Wayne Dyer, Bob Proctor, uh,
the Napoleon Hill Foundation, whatever it was, I read the books,
so I knew at least a framework of what they
could help me with. I wasn't just ingratiated because John
Maxwell was famous, or Sharon Lechter was famous, or Kiyosaki.
(19:52):
I read their books, not just once by the way.
I am still reading today for the sixth time, Rich dad,
poor dad. And it means something different today because I've
elevated my frequency and awareness through wisdom and faith, to
be given more of the gifts that he is given
in that book is incredible. Um, and so the first
(20:13):
step was I was more interested than interesting. And then
I went out knowing their framework, and I asked questions.
I asked for help, and then I returned and said,
would it help you if I. Would it help you
if I some people, it was, hey, would it help
(20:33):
you if I drove you to the airport? Some people was,
would it help you if I helped, you know, build
your sales force or whatever skills, knowledge or desire it
was that I felt was aligned with the person I
read about, and I took the time to show up
and to provide value with an appreciation of who they
were today and where they wanted to be in the future. And, uh,
(20:56):
it wasn't until I lost everything that I started to
do this. I had no mentors. Uh, if I had
asked for help, I would still have, uh, ten times
the money I had. Uh, but I had to learn
that lesson because I always helped people. That was just
part of my culture, my family, my upbringing is to
(21:17):
be of service and of value to others. But I
was cheating myself and others because I was a surface player.
I gave to receive. I negotiated and traded everything and
thank God they didn't have social media way back then
because all the content on me, you would I I'm
so clean because I started doing content after I learned
(21:40):
these lessons. If not, there'd be a shitload of. And
I feel sorry for some of these young kids, right?
Because there's so much shitty content on them right now
that they're going to have a difficult time in their
social silo cleaning up their past. That is probably true
about every 20 something in the world. I am so
glad there was no cell phones, no picture taking, and
(22:01):
no social media in my 20s. Or I'd be trying.
I'd have to use life brand to clean up so
much of my content, because everybody would be like, Dave
Meltzer is full of shit. Because I was Brandon, I
was full of shit, but I'm not. Today. I spend
minutes and moments every day being full of shit, and
(22:21):
the minute I catch myself, I stop, right? I don't
pile on. I'm still. I'm human, I lie, I manipulate,
I cheat, I oversell, but I immediately stop when I
see my past, and I certainly don't look for my
past in other people. I look for what I want
to become in other people. And so that's how you
(22:42):
find these mentors? By being of service and value and
being more interested than interesting.
S1 (22:48):
There's this, I mean, I've heard some of you I've
heard some of the things that you've talked about in
the past, and I listened to you and I'm like,
I there's no point in me even commenting to what
you just said, because if I did, I would say
exactly what you just said. And and that.
S2 (23:03):
Any honest person would. Right.
S1 (23:04):
Well, and that's the thing is, that's when you know
someone's legit versus listening to some of these guys just
pounding on how smart they are and how successful they
are and how they're the greatest in the world. Like,
I can't, I can't do that. You know, I, I
first thought that was Grant Cardone. We landed on Grant
Cardone because I had engineered and surveyed 10,000 business owners,
(23:26):
you know, ten years worth of work, FTI out of Chicago,
millions and millions to understand consolidation, rollup theories, uh, understand
where businesses break or succeed, 97% go out of business.
I just wanted to understand, how do we help people
so they don't have to go the traditional route of
trying to raise capital to build their business? And how
do we keep them from going out of business? Because
if the business fails, 83% of those businesses have family
(23:48):
orientation if the business suffers and struggles, the family suffers
and struggles and the community suffers and struggles. And I
used to sit up there and look at who is
funding the baseball field and who is funding the football field.
When I was in high school, and it was always
what we consider the kids with the wealthy parents. And
so as I got older, I'm like, how do I be?
How do I have kids that have wealthy parents who
(24:09):
can fund the things that the kids need to be
able to do? And I used to think that way, like,
I want to be one of those guys someday. And
so it pulled me into success. And then I got
caught up in being the greatest, smartest guy in the world,
only to have the the correction happen in a week,
right from the peak to a week to the bottom.
And so when someone goes through that and then they
(24:32):
come back, you can just sense that appreciation and that
commitment to make sure other people don't follow that pattern.
So when I was listening to you, and as I've
listened to you and as I hear you, it's just
so clear, concise, precise, succinct. It's things you you like.
You would only get there if you grooved it. Water
(24:53):
over rocks.
S3 (24:54):
Yeah.
S1 (24:54):
And and yet. And yet there's so many false prophets
out there talking about stuff. And this is the. I'm
a non-social media guy. Uh, although I have to, because
of my business. Right. So when I first saw Grant Cardone,
I was like, no chance because his first video my
wife showed me. But after looking at Grant Cardone through Elena,
actually going to one of his events and seeing his
(25:17):
work ethic, and then actually meeting him and talking to
him and realizing you have the promotion grant, and then
you have the individual, the human being who really is
committed and dedicated to, to to seeing and pulling people
to success. I was like, okay, there's something different here
than what I'm seeing on social media where you are
the opposite. You were like, I love this guy. I
just not sure how to work with him, with what
(25:37):
I do versus what he does, but I just don't
think there's enough. I was with Sharon last week. We
gave her, uh, a lifetime achievement award at Ten-x ladies
with Elena. It was so amazing. I loved her to death.
She's been a mentor and a friend since 2008. Um,
and I was. I was thinking about you. Your name
came up earlier on this year, and I'm like, I
(26:00):
have never called to just say how much I appreciate you.
That's that's literally why I wanted to do this podcast,
is to tell you, thank you for being a phenomenal
human being, for communicating from your heart and your head
and for being an example to other people. And I
see how much activity you have going on. And I'm like,
the guy is just driven and committed to helping others.
(26:21):
And that is the total purpose of this podcast is
just to salute you and and your success.
S2 (26:28):
I gotta tell you, it's so interesting. Number one, I
look forward to doing more with you and please invite
me to speak on stages. I'm doing something. Are you
in Miami as well?
S1 (26:37):
Miami? Scottsdale. I live in Scottsdale and Miami. We go back, so.
S2 (26:40):
We're we're at the Aspire tour. Uh, the, uh, I'll
be there on the fourth, so please, I have a
big dinner that I want to invite you to. But
then I'm in Miami right after, uh, with Tim Story
and David Williams.
S1 (26:52):
Love, Tim. He's such a dear friend. I bet.
S2 (26:55):
He is. Yeah. We just. Invitations, not obligations, will put
us together. But it's interesting that you talk about Grant.
And I'll also throw in another good friend of mine,
Gary Vaynerchuk. Yeah, both of those guys. Uh, I didn't
like their videos, but that doesn't stop David Meltzer. And
it shouldn't stop you. If you don't like Brandon's videos
(27:18):
or David's videos, or Grant's videos or Tim's videos or
Gary's videos, we'll get to know somebody. Um, and then
all of a sudden, you'll start appreciating their videos because
you'll understand. And, uh, I really got to appreciate Grant
because I invited him to one of my dinners that
was right across the street from his office. I think
(27:39):
it was in Fort Lauderdale or somewhere in Florida. And
and the fact that he showed up and he was
so present and engaged, Engage and he was so intelligent
and caring and sincere. I'm a frequency vibration person. So
you can't lie. Your frequency doesn't lie to me. You're
either a high frequency or you're low. And Sharon has
(27:59):
been a mentor. High frequency. Tim's story. You know all
the people around you. You're surrounding yourself. And then Gary
was the same way. Um, and so I want to
encourage people, uh, that. Look, if somebody has a community.
Find out why. If they have a community, because they
have a low vibration and they base things off of
scarcity and off of lying, cheating, manipulating and stealing, then
(28:24):
don't be a part of the community. But there's a
lot of people out there that you're not going to get, uh,
what they're saying, what they're doing, what they're believing, what
they're feeling by video. And so just like, you know,
you shouldn't date someone just because they're the best looking
person you've ever seen or the worst looking person. You know,
you want to get to know somebody. Do the same
(28:44):
thing with the video. And I would use if somebody
has been able to build a big community, find out why. Uh,
and those are some great people that you surround yourself with.
And I certainly want to be a part of that
in a bigger and better way and serve that community
and share my community with all of you as well.
And so if that was the sole purpose of this, uh, podcast,
(29:07):
I certainly am gracious in saying thank you for thinking
of me that way and giving me an opportunity I
do want to share with your community. I always offer
my book for free, so please, anyone out there, I
sign my book, I pay for my book, I ship it,
I pay for the shipping. So this is purely an
abundant effort to get people to understand the framework in
(29:29):
which I live my life and the community. I have
to make a lot of money, help a lot of people,
and have a lot of fun. So email me directly david@meltzer.com.
I will do that and I would love to be
a bigger part of your community. Brandon, thank you so
much for having me.
S1 (29:45):
Absolutely. And thank you for joining me on this episode
of Building Billions with Brandon. I enjoyed spending time with
you and honestly, just such a pleasure, David, to to
be able to speak to you in person and I
can't wait to get together with you. We will include
a link for your book in this podcast, and I
am certain you and I will do some bigger things together.
(30:06):
And thank you for joining me on the show today.
S2 (30:08):
It's done, it's done, it's done. Thank you, thank you.
S1 (30:10):
Appreciate you buddy.
S3 (30:15):
Great.
S1 (30:16):
Thank you man. Appreciate appreciate you. Cool.
S2 (30:19):
My team will send some invitations. I just want to
get together in person and however I can be of service. Uh,
I have a deal with Napoleon Hill that I think
has great synergy with what you're doing. Um, and so
we can kind of lend a bigger audience and credibility
with Napoleon Hill to what you're doing as well. So great.
I've been working on that. And just great timing to
(30:41):
get to know you better. So thank you.
S1 (30:42):
Yeah. Good. Well, thank you for for for for who
you are and what you do.
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