Can You Overcome the Fear & Uncertainty of AI While Maintaining Your Voice In Business? | Kinsey Soderberg - Business With Chronic Illness

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Nikita Williams (00:00):
Hello, everybody, welcome.
I know I kind of took a reallyquick sabbatical there from the
podcast and I haven't done thatin a few years.
I just really needed to takethe space and I'll be doing a
whole nother episode on thistopic or just sharing with you a

(00:20):
little bit more about why andwhat's been going on with that.
But I am super excited tointroduce you to this episode
because we're going to betalking about AI.
I have been using it in someway, shape or form to help me
get some time back and it issuch a huge resource for me when

(00:40):
it comes to dealing with brainfog and just not having all of
the energy in the world to dosome of the things I used to do
with ease.
And also, ai has been one of myfavorite tools more
specifically in the creating andmanaging of my podcast.
I cannot tell you how much timeI save having some of these

(01:03):
tools, but in this episode we'regoing to be talking with one of
our guests that we've had onthe show before, so I'll leave a
little sneak peek for you tolisten to that in a second here.
But we're going to talk abouthow to use AI authentically.
We're going to talk about thethings you need to put in place
to make AI easy for you, so thatit sounds like you.

(01:24):
Just some of the basic thingsyou need to know about AI,
regardless of where you'rehearing it from.
Just some things that helps youto keep focused on what's
working, what's not working, aswell as just some rules to kind
of have in the back of your mindthat helps guide your process
in using this amazing tool.

(01:46):
And I'm doing this in aconversation with a really great
guest.
So all I have to say I can'twait for you to jump in.
Here's a little sneak peek andstay tuned for the rest of the
episode.

Kinsey (01:56):
It is kind of one of those things where it's like you
know, okay, when it comes toour brand's authenticity, if
it's important to you, then makeit important to you.
And in the age of AI, as moreand more people are using these
tools and it's becomingrecognizable, your brand
authenticity is more importantthan ever and it's going to
allow you to stand out even moreso.

Nikita (02:22):
Welcome to Business with Chronic Illness, the globally
ranked podcast for women livingwith chronic illness who want to
start and grow a businessonline.
I'm your host.
Nikita Williams and I went fromliving a normal life to all of
a sudden being in constant pain,with no answers to being
diagnosed with multiple chronicillnesses and trying to make a
livable income.
And trying to make a livableincome, I faced the challenge of

(02:45):
adapting traditional businessadvice to fit my unique
circumstances.
With chronic illness, feelingfrustrated and more burned out
than I already was.
While managing my chronicillness, to becoming an
award-winning coach with aflexible, sustainable online
coaching business, I found thesurprisingly simple steps to
starting and growing aprofitable business without
compromising my health or mypeace.

(03:06):
Since then, I've helped dozensof women just like you learn how
to do the same.
If you're ready to create athriving business that aligns
with your lifestyle andwell-being, you're in the right
place.
Together, we're shifting thenarrative of what's possible for
women with chronic illness andhow we make a living.
This is Business with ChronicIllness.

(03:32):
I'm so excited to have Kinsey onthe show again.
If you all are OGs of theCrafted to Thrive community, you
already know that Kinsey hasbeen on here and a part of my
journey, just as having anawesome business bestie, if you

(03:53):
will, in my community, in mycorner, and I'm just so excited
to have her on.
It's been forever since we'vehad her on the show or even on
Instagram.
We used to do lives togetherand everything.
But she has gotten some reallycool things in relation to AI

(04:15):
and y'all know I kind of love AIbut I also kind of am not like
an expert in it, and Kinsey hasdefinitely kind of stepped into
that role and I thought whobetter to have on the show to
talk about it?
So welcome Kinsey, welcome back.

Kinsey (04:27):
Oh, my goodness, thank you so much for having me back,
nikita.
I'm so excited to be here.

Nikita (04:32):
I am so excited, one of the biggest things.
Before we get into the wholeconversation, some of the things
that I want to say first aboutAI is that a lot of people,
especially my chronic illnesswarriors, know a couple of
things.
They know it saves some time,or it will at least, and they
know it's something they can'tavoid.
It's kind of like whentraditional photography changes

(04:54):
and trenches and more intodigital photography.
You weren't going to run awayfrom that being the fact.
It's.
It's here, however, there'squestions, and so I know there's
a lot of questions that peoplehave about how can it be
authentic, how can it actuallysave you time, is it worth your
time and all of that jazz, andwe're going to answer some of
those questions, but before wedo, what has been up, girl?

(05:17):
What has been up?

Kinsey (05:21):
Oh, so many things, lady .
I'm so glad you asked.
Yeah, I know Basically.
You know, since we last talkedand your OG listeners probably
know me as Kinsey from Feel GoodSocial and you know it's so
funny I feel like over the yearsa lot of things change for your
brand.
You make lots of differentpivots and all that stuff and

(05:43):
there's still, like so many corethings that just stay the same,
right, and especially if youcan really get to the authentic
brand that you are trying tobuild from the get go and just
be like, okay, these are myvalues, this is why I'm showing
up all that stuff, right.
So for feel good social, youknow, a lot has changed in the
backend what we offer and howyou know, kind of how we help

(06:05):
people and at the same time, wejust still are solid in that
foundation of just helping downto earth entrepreneurs show up
online authentically withoutwasting your time or selling
your soul, right, that's likethe core.
Oh, I just like spilled mycoffee at me.
I.
This is why I can't hold mycoffee and talk and talk at the

(06:26):
same time, because I talk withmy hands, okay.
So, anyway, yeah, so that'sstill what we do, you know, with
feel good social and whatnot wereally like focus on the core
messaging for your brand thatfeels aligned with you.
You know how to show up withconfidence, how to sell in a way
that's not icky or sleazy, andalso you know how to show up on

(06:47):
Instagram and all the placeswithout wasting your time in a
way that works for you, right?
So that is kind of how feelgood social is like, aligned and
honestly, too, that is what weare now bringing into our new
sister brand, authentic ai,right?
So you know, about a year ago, Iwas first starting to hear

(07:09):
about the ai buzz.
You know what I'm like, whatare all these things?
And I'll be honest to you, withyou.
My first thought was, uh, thissucks.
Like, isn't the internet fakeenough as it already is?
Like, what's this going to doto our creativity and our
critical thinking skills?
I was like our robot's going totake over the world.

Nikita (07:29):
You know, like that sort of stuff.
Yeah, my robot has come to life.

Kinsey (07:33):
Terminator.

Yeah.

Kinsey (07:35):
No, I know I love using all of the 80s analogy like
robot movies for references andstuff with my new brand.
But yeah, anyway, you know,about a year ago I was like oh
man, I was such a curmudgeonabout AI, if we're honest.
And then I, you know, kind ofwas just on this long two hour
drive to go do something and Iwas listening to podcasts and I

(07:57):
had one of those like long driveepiphanies where I was like, oh
, I am just kind of afraid ofthis new technology, right, like
it's change.
I don't know how to use, Idon't know how to implement it,
like, and if I'm worried aboutpeople using it in an unaligned

(08:17):
or unauthentic way or anythinglike that, like why not turn
toward it, get curious about it,learn more about it and then
think how can we make this workfor us, right?
So that's kind of how AuthenticAI was born from the values and
all that stuff.
When it comes to my Feel GoodSocial brand, I'm kind of taking
that to AI technology and justgetting curious about how can we

(08:40):
use this in a way that feelsaligned with us, how can we keep
it approachable for us and howcan we make it work for us and
not the other way around, right?
So that's kind of what I'vebeen up to in the past year.
Now I've just been reallytrying to deep dive into AI
technology and AI tools and letme tell you it's a lot, but it
is really, really helpful, andyou know we're figuring it out,

(09:06):
so that's why I'm here today.

Nikita (09:06):
It's so cool, though, kinsey, because it does really
align with like feel good,social in a way, because you're
what I've always like admiredand like really loved about.
Like you and your brand.
It is truly like finding thatstory, finding a way to tell
your story and also serve yourpeople, and with AI, that is

(09:31):
kind of like you said.
It's kind of like the elephantin the room, like how do you do
that authentically wheneveryone's putting like I, this
is what I imagine, and so y'allplease bear with me I imagine
like this, like machine, whichit technically is.
Let's be real, this machine,and we're all like plugged into

(09:52):
it and we're all sending ourso-called information and it's
deciding, you know, whether ornot it's good, not good,
relevant, and is a part of usall being kind of like chopped
up, right, and I think there's aweird feeling when it comes to
like AI when I think about it,but I know that there are people

(10:15):
using it authentically in a waythat really aligns with telling
their story, and I also feellike your brand has kind of
always been the place wherepeople can go to be themselves,
so I know that, whatever you'regoing to be talking about AI,
it's like it has to be relatedto that, because there is no
other way that Kinsey can belike.

(10:36):
It has to be authentic.
So I loved when I saw you startlike sprinkling things out
there with this and I was like Ican't wait to see what she does
.
Because one of the things that Itold everyone when AI started
coming around like with myclients and my community is,
like all these experts quoteunquote about AI are newbies,

(10:57):
just like everybody else.
Okay, so they might be spendingmore time and hours on there,
but they're still discoveringhow these things, tools, work.
So don't beat yourself up thatyou don't know all the things,
because literally this is reallynew in the context of how we're
using it.
Ai has been around way morethan you know chat, gpt it has

(11:20):
been around before that, but theway that the masses can now use
it has definitely changed.
So what has, in your, like yousaid, you were kind of like I
don't know.
I don't know if I want to bedoing this, but if I'm going to
do it, I got to make it work forus.
What was the biggest stickypoint for you in that Like I got

(11:43):
to make this work for for meand then, like the people, I
want to serve.

Kinsey (11:47):
Oh yeah, oh for sure.
And I just have to say too,like, definitely I.
I have trouble calling myselfan AI expert.
I've been using AI nerd more, sojust cause, that's what more
aligns with me, but exactly it'slike anyone and everyone can
feel like they're behind when itcomes to this and really the

(12:08):
shift is remembering that likeno, you're actually just like on
the forefront in a way.
You know everyone is justlearning about AI technology.
I do not feel like an expert atall when it comes to a lot of
stuff with AI technology and Ifeel like, you know, I do know
somewhat and I want to share andI want to continue learning
together.

Right.

Kinsey (12:28):
So, yeah, for sure, if you're feeling behind, you're
not.
But when it comes to the stickypoints with AI, oh for sure,
there were so many.
I have felt all the things.
I had to go through the ringerwith myself when it came to,
like, the mindset shifts of thisstuff Because, like I said, you
know, my one of one of my mainissues that I was having with it

(12:50):
was the authenticity thing.
For sure, of course, isn't theinternet fake enough as it is?
It's like the first thing thatcame to mind and you know I will
say that, as more people areusing AI technology, I am seeing
more and more recognizable AIwritten content.

Nikita (13:08):
Oh my God Right, yes, I can spot it a mile away.
People, I can spot it a mileaway.

Kinsey (13:18):
Today on my Authentic AI Instagram, I'm like putting on
Instagram stories.
Like I got three emails thatstarted with the subject line
unlock the power of today.
You know like no, you know,stop telling me to leverage
things.
You know, not everything iscrucial.
Like all these, like differenttropes that you can totally pick

(13:38):
out now.
But it is kind of one of thosethings where it's like, you know
, okay, when it comes to ourbrands, authenticity, if it's
important to you, then make itimportant to you.
And and in the age of AI, asmore and more people are using
these tools and it's becomingrecognizable like your brand,
authenticity is more importantthan ever and it's going to

(13:59):
allow you to stand out even moreso.

Right.

Kinsey (14:01):
So, uh, I love that and also, ultimately, like, you, are
the gatekeeper of your brandand you're allowed to use these
tools in the way that alignswith you and use them and make
sure that everything that'ssending your way is through the
filter of your brand and feelsauthentic to you, right?
So it's kind of a non-issue, aslong as you stay the head of

(14:23):
your brand and you don't let AIrun the show, which I don't
think any of your people will.

Nikita (14:28):
Yeah, no, I mean, I saw on LinkedIn because I've been
dabbling in LinkedIn lately butI saw on LinkedIn this post that
was like, you know, if you useAI to its like non-primed,
non-finesse, non-branded up kindof version, it's okay in a

(14:54):
pickle, like a literal pickle,it was like literally a pickle,
but it's not anything.
You want to be using like all ofthe time because you're so
right.
Using like all of the timebecause you're so right.
That's the first thing Ithought with AI is, like, as
helpful and as useful as Ibelieve it is and can be and
will be, how much more importantis the human factor needed?

(15:17):
Like we need to continue.
Like that is the thing thatpeople are going to crave.
More to your point about all ofthose email subject lines.
Like we are going to be so likewhere's the people at Cause
this, ain't it?
So I love.
I love that being the taking tothe point that we are the
gatekeepers of that.
We ultimately have the say inhow we're going to tweak this to

(15:40):
keep it human.

Kinsey (15:42):
Yeah, I mean, and ultimately, too, like I like to
say that authentic AI takes ahuman first approach to AI, and
what I have found is that whenyou bring your own brand,
opinions, ideas, personality tothis software and allow it to

(16:04):
help you with those right, it'sabout amplifying your own
expertise, amplifying your ownbrand, not replacing it, right,
not having it do the work foryou, having it help you along
the way, right, and so that'show you get the most unique
responses out of it.
It really is how you can workwith it and have this tool help
you without being like write me10 blog posts, you know.

(16:28):
Like I was just writing a salespage for my new course
yesterday and I was like thiscourse is not for you if you are
just like looking to churn outlike as much content as possible
and not care about like thequality or the alignment.
Right, like, because you knowthere are people out there using
AI for that and, honestly, it'snot even just like an alignment

(16:48):
value thing.
That's an issue with that.
It is becoming like a strategyissue too, because Google is
putting out all these updateswhere it's like shutting down
websites with like kind ofcrappy content that isn't
helpful, right?
So it's like, no, like this isthe most strategic way to do it.

Nikita (17:28):
It's the most aligned way to do it and it's going to
be AI, if you're like me.
I have been playing with it, Ihave used it, me and Chachi.
I call it Chachi because theperson that I learned AI from.
She calls it Chachi and I justthink it's the cutest name ever
to call ChachiBT.
So when you hear me say Chachi,I'm talking about chat, gpt, ok
, people, but Chachi and I haveconversations all of the time

(17:49):
because I love using the app onmy phone, because you can
literally have a conversationand you can record things which
obviously you guys hello, that'slike my life, right?
So it has made it easier for meto kind of frame Chachi to be
more like how I want it to bewhen I'm asking it to create or

(18:13):
finesse something that I've saidwith my style.
But what is the hardest?
What is the hardest step of oneat accepting that AI is okay?
And then number two how do youlike start dipping your toe into
it?
Like, how do you start using it?

Kinsey (18:32):
Yeah, I love that you called it that you call it chat.
That is like so much easier tosay than chat GPT too, and, like
I have trained myself to beable to finally say chat GPT
correctly, because I could notspit it out for the longest time
.
But okay, so let's think aboutthis.
So, when it comes to juststarting to dip your toes into

(18:55):
using tools like chat GPT andall that different stuff, I
think, firstly, it can be like,you know, a little bit scary
feeling to get started, or youdon't know, you know, like, how
to use it or what to ask it.
You know you're worried aboutthe tech and all that different
stuff, and so there's just likea little bit of a hurdle getting
over that.
First, like opening it up andtyping something into the chat

(19:17):
window, right.
So if you haven't done that yetthat is where I would start I
would probably just open up chatGPT you know just Google
ChatGPT it's free and then justlike introduce yourself, right,
just like if you don't know whatto say, if you don't have a
specific question to ask, thenjust introduce yourself, tell it
a little bit about your brand,you know, and it will suggest

(19:39):
ways that it can help you, whichis kind of fun, right, and if
you're over that initial hurdle,then the biggest challenge is
the overwhelm of possibilities.
I would say, all the differentthings that this can do, and or
just like realizing, like whatit actually can do and what it
can help with you, it with you,with I can't say.

(20:01):
But you know, just like it's sofunny because at first it's
like a little bit of a fear tostart using it, and then after
it's a little bit of theoverwhelm of oh my gosh, there
are so many things I can do withthis, there are so many ideas.
That's throwing my way and allthe different stuff.
So I always like to tell peopleto, once you get over that
initial hump, kind of start slow, you know, take it one task,

(20:25):
one tool and one day at a timeand really think about the ways
like, how can AI help me in mybusiness?
How can I incorporate this intothe workflows that I already
have established and that areworking for myself and my
business and all that stuff?
Because, too, once you kind ofget into that AI world, a lot of

(20:47):
people, there's a lot of AIpushers out there.
That's what I've been callingthem lately where they're like
you're not using AI for this yet.
Oh, you're not having it writeall of your emails for you and
all of your captions.
You're not using this tool orthat tool or that?
Oh, you have to try this tool.
And I'm like guys, no, this islike way too overwhelming, right
?
So like just remembering thatlike you don't have to use it

(21:10):
for everything, and like you canslowly start to get curious
about it, integrate it into yourworkflow and then, slowly, as
you get more used to it, you'llbe able to figure out the ways
that it works for you moreeasily, right, so just take a
deep breath and it's going to beokay.
Also, having an organizationsystem like a Google doc open is
great for that anxiety that youfeel when you're like there's

(21:32):
so many good ideas here, but Ijust have to choose one.
But I don't want to lose allthese ideas.
And and then you can kind ofturn into that deer in
headlights where you're like Idon't know what to do.
You know, just having a Googledoc to help you like organize
your ideas is really great too.

Nikita (21:46):
Yeah, so that's a real thing, especially if you ever
asked Chachi, what can I do withthis?
You're like and you're like oh,I didn't have a clue.
I only thought of two of thosethings on that list.
I didn't think of any of theother ones.
But speaking of what to do withChachi, like what are some of

(22:08):
the first things someone can usein order to give them some time
back, in order to give themsome, some creative juice, even
if, if you will, oh yeah, andagain, you know there's so many
different ways that you can usethis tool.

Kinsey (22:27):
I'm going to list a few, not even close to all of them,
and so, and you know, just takewhat feels like the most helpful
for you today.
Right, but you know, I thinkthat when it comes to tools like
chat, gpt, that are generativetext tools and stuff, a lot of
times people the first thingthey think about it is like

(22:48):
right, I'm going to have itwrite my emails for me, I'm
going to have it write mycaptions for me, all that
different stuff.
And yeah, that's great, butthat's actually not even my
favorite way to use it.
Necessarily, that's great, butthat's actually not even my
favorite way to use it.
Necessarily, I really love touse it for ideation.
I will break.
I have, I'm an Enneagram seven.

(23:13):
I have so many shiny objectideas every day and I'm like
will brain dump all of mydifferent ideas into chat GPT
and be like help me organizethis into something that's like
tangible, help me outline this.
I will go back and forth withit, asking it questions.
I'll be like oh, I really thinkthat we need to add a part here
that kind of has to do withsomething like this.
Can you help me, like solidifythis idea or like do you think

(23:33):
that is a good idea?
You know I'll ask it like andor I'll have it play like
devil's advocate like what arewe missing here?
Like what would be theobjections to this?
You know I'll have it play likedevil's advocate, like what are
we missing here?
Like, what would be theobjections to this?
I love using it for idealcustomer profiles.
To getting into the head of myideal customers is wonderful.
I love using it for outliningmeeting notes and or podcast

(23:55):
episodes or whatever it is.
Throwing transcripts from mymeetings or my podcast into it
and have it pull quotes for me,have it write show notes for me,
have it.
If it's a client meeting, haveit write an action list for me
or to do list, you know, foreach of us.
You know whatever that lookslike and, of course, you know
brainstorming content ideas,creating a content calendar, all

(24:18):
that different stuff.
Content calendar all thatdifferent stuff.
It can also like help yourespond to client or to just
emails in general.
Right, and this is actuallysomething you could automate if
you wanted to with like Zapieror something you could connect
chat GPT to your Gmail and haveit automatically read every
email and draft a response foryou and and you could have it

(24:44):
send the response.

Nikita (24:45):
You could automate that I don't think that that is yeah
but as nifty stuff.

Kinsey (24:52):
no, yeah, you can totally connect it with zap to
your gmail and it'll just draftlike response for you and then
all you have to do is go in,read the email, read the
response and like changewhatever is needed to be changed
and then hit send Right Like.
So that's a really coolautomation thing that you could
do.
There's just so many thingsgirl.

Nikita (25:16):
Yeah, it's kind of interesting because when I was
talking with a client recentlyabout podcasting and she was
like I want to start a podcastbut it's so hard, and I laughed
and I didn't mean to like laughat her, but I was like I started
my podcast back in 2017.
None of these AI tools didn'teven exist.
The editing portion, I mean,the script, wasn't even on a

(25:36):
blip Squadcast wasn't evenreally there.
I don't think, like all ofthese tools that we use now to
just take the content we'reproducing and then create stuff
and then edit stuff.
Like I have saved so much timein my process of just having
some of these tools.

(25:57):
So it's not just chat GPT,right, it's.
There's so many other tools.
It's this new tool that I'musing, called Fathom, for my
meeting notes.
Oh my God, it is the mostamazing AI companion in your
Zoom meetings ever.
I don't have to send anythingother than a link because it
already has outlined liketakeaways and it directly

(26:19):
connects it to, like, a specificpoint in the conversation that
we were talking about, likesomeone can click on and it goes
right to that that timestamp,versus like a human having to do
that, Like the computer alreadydid it Right.
So there's just so manydifferent ways.
Like you said, there'sdifferent apps.
It's not just chat, it's notjust Chachi as much as we love

(26:41):
Chachi, it's great, but there'sother AI tools now that you can
use for other form automations,and I didn't know that about
Gmail.
That's cool.
There's something about that,though, that kind of freaks me
out, which is I don't wantChachi reading all my emails.
You know, like I'm okay withyou not doing that I have a

(27:04):
person doing that at this pointand I'm good with that but I
don't know about Chachi readingall of that.
So, like that's another thingthat's really of a concern for a
lot of my clients.
So privacy and like worryingabout the security around.
You know, can I trust this notto be like sent out to the

(27:25):
universe meta?
You know how is that?
How are you, how are younavigating that, or what have
you found to be things toconsider when that comes to that
?

Kinsey (27:36):
Yeah, definitely, I know that is such a legit concern.
For sure, no-transcript right,because, for example, chat gpt

(28:10):
is allowed to use anything thatyou input into the platform to
train its future models.
that doesn't mean it's so funnyto see all these things coming
out, because you know somepeople I think it was samsung
was trying to sue open aibecause they're like part of our
new code got out or so I don'teven know what happened and,

(28:31):
like you know, it doesn't meanthat, like anything you put in
it, there is always gonna turnup, like on google, like word
for word, exactly what you input, but the platform could learn
from the knowledge that you putin there and possibly integrate
it into results that it'ssharing with other people, which
then means that your ideasmight not be considered your own

(28:55):
in the future necessarily.
You know what I mean.
Although, if you have beensharing, you know, if you are
one of those OG people who hasbeen just sharing this knowledge
with people online, then you dohave copyright, you know
protection, which is great, butyou know all this stuff is just
evolving as more tools arebecoming more mainstream.
But it is important to knowthat, like what you put into

(29:18):
chat, gpt can be used unless youdo upgrade to the teams version
, which then that automaticallydoes not use the information you
input into it to train itsfuture platforms, and I'm pretty
sure there's a toggle on andtoggle off for privacy stuff if
you're using the pro version ofchat gpt.

(29:38):
So just to keep in mind withthat, but also, too, I think
that it's important for us tothink about allowing the people
who we are working in tandemwith to opt in to using ai tools
as well, right?
So whenever I'm using ai toolswith client work and whatnot, I
will make sure that I just askthem permission to be able to

(30:00):
throw our meeting notes intochat GPT to be able to do
whatever.
If I'm working with a likeoffer, launch, client or
something you know, and I reallywant to go back forth with chat
GPT to brainstorm and helpcreate her copy and whatnot,
then I will make sure that I askher permission and my people
have never had an issue withthat so far.

(30:20):
If they have any hesitations, Iknow how to explain it to them
and all that other stuff.
But you know it's not just chadgpt, it's also, you know, fathom
, for example, and I don't knowas much about fathom, but like I
have heard a couple of horrorsor sorry it's not whatever, uh,
but you know of people having anAI meeting assistant, you know,

(30:41):
and then the settings justbeing automatically, that's
automatically jumping into everymeeting that you have and
recording it, and having peopleget mad at them because they're
like I don't want this meetingrecorded or like put out there,
right.

Nikita (30:55):
So, yeah, I will say about Fathom just real quick.
There is a setting in thebackend that, before it pops
into someone's screen, there's away for you to say, hey, are
you okay with this?
Because, like hello, it's justlike kind of like Zoom has that,
like do you want to be recorded?

(31:15):
Like thing that pops up whenit's recorded.
Fathom has the same exact toolof being like hey, this is you
know such and such and you havesuch and you have to opt in for
the permission.
But, yeah, y'all ask permission.
We are in these weird timeswith things I feel like, with AI
being like asking permission.
It's to use these tools,especially in a client

(31:38):
relationship or letting themknow it is a tool that you will
be using and if they have anyissues with it, to let you know.
So I totally agree with you,especially, and I would also add
to like, if you're going to useAI, that I have found like with
I don't know transcripts orsomething, even from a podcast
or from a conversation, is toremove people's names, like

(32:01):
identifying, like locations andnames, and things like that from
the text.
That I have found is reallyhelpful as well.
Most of us just know at thispoint, like, let's be real, this
is my own like thoughts aboutAI Kinsey.
I mean, where do we think theygot this stuff in the first
place?
Like we're.

(32:21):
I mean, granted, are we hearingmore things about privacy laws
and all this kind of stuff andlike pixels and how those things
?
But literally for years theyhave been listening to our
conversations anyway.
So it's kind of like to me.
It's like this was just aninevitable like evolution of
what we were alreadyexperiencing in a way anyway.

(32:41):
And so at least now we know andwe can choose to like opt in
versus being like, kind of likein this weird verse of like oh,
is that happening, or is thatnot happening?
Or wait.
I was on my phone, I was justtalking to my friend and it
popped up an ad of the exactthing I was just talking about.
Like these things were alreadyhappening before we even are

(33:02):
saying yes to them.
So it's just something to putinto context.
I think, around like privacyquote unquote when it comes to
using AI.

Kinsey (33:13):
I totally agree.
I mean it is.
It's pretty funny, like whenyou kind of start using AI tools
in general, you're like, oh,I've been like using AI tools
for years and or oh, that's AI.
You know, like this has beenaround.
It's just now that we'rebecoming.

(33:33):
It's becoming more mainstream,more understood and the tools
are more accessible to us to beable to use ourselves Right.
So, yeah, it's really cool, it'sjust being aware.
I always just encourage peopleto understand how they feel
about it themselves Right.
And also, especially if you areworking with clients and you're

(33:55):
using any tools like this, justprep yourself for the
conversations.
You know like your clientsmight have questions, so prep
yourself with yeah, this is whyI'm using it, this is how I'm
using it and this is why it'snot that scary.
But you do have the opportunityto say no to using it if you
want, like whatever it needs tobe.
Prep yourself with that, justso that you're not like caught
off guard and scared.

(34:16):
But these kinds ofconversations are definitely
going to become more and morelike normal for people as we're
all working together.

Nikita (34:24):
And I also think if you pay for a tool, you have a
little bit more privacy andconnection with the tool that's
using AI.
So, yes, there are a lot offree versions of things.
My husband works in the techworld and he's always talking
about like these forums that usecertain chat GPT for like code
and all like all this stuff.
Don't ask me because that's notmy world, but like it's free

(34:46):
source, anybody can come in andgo in and no one's paying for it
.
But when you put somethingbehind a paywall, usually
there's a little bit moreprotections, not just for you,
but also for the people who areallowing you this use, this use
the tool.
So that's something to considertoo.
Um, I definitely pay for thepeople who are allowing you to
use the tool, so that'ssomething to consider too.
I definitely pay for theupgraded Chachi just because I

(35:07):
feel like, okay, there is someprotection there and you can
also put like what I have foundvery useful.
So this is like a little trickfor you all and I think you
mentioned this before but, like,if you don't know what these
privacy terms are and all thesethings, use the free version of
Chachi and just copy and pasteall that and say what does this
mean?
And like layman's terms, andthen you'll be like, oh then you

(35:31):
kind of know, like in withinlike two minutes, versus you
having to read the whole thing.
Just something to put out thereto save you some time.
They put out there to save yousome time.

Kinsey (35:41):
People say that they've used that for like like
contracts and stuff too, likereading contracts, Like is there
anything I should be concernedabout here or whatever, and like
yeah, it really is nice forsummarizing, for sure.

Nikita (35:54):
So when it comes to time like, how much time does it
take to start using these toolsand does it really save you time
?

Kinsey (36:07):
I love this question.
It's so true because it can bea time suck, just like
everything else.
Girl, I think that the reasonI'm like loving approaching AI
technology so much is because Idefinitely relate it in so many
ways to Instagram too.
You know what I mean.
Like, it can be a time suck andit doesn't have to be in one
that right.
So like that, I think it'sreally important to definitely

(36:31):
like, as you start to dip yourtoes into the world of AI and
stuff, really be thinking aboutwhat do I need help with?
Right and like, how can I fitthis into my workflow, my tasks,
in a way that makes sense andis going to save me time and not
get sucked down and or settingboundaries right Of like getting

(36:53):
sucked down the rabbit holethat can become chat a
conversation with Catchy VT.
So it's like you know, reallythinking about I I have it right
, copy for me for sure, and Iespecially think that I use it
more to write copy for me when,because I am testing it so much
for, like my students andwhatnot right and trying to

(37:15):
figure out like differenttechniques and whatnot, but I'm
fairly decent at writing copyand like writing my own captions
and whatnot Right.
So what I will do is like startwriting something and when I
hit a like block that's when Igo to chat GPT and I have it
like help me work through theblock, right, so I'll copy paste

(37:36):
exactly what I've alreadywritten into chat GPT.
I'll give it context of.
This is what I'm going for andthis is where I want the post to
end up, or like this is thepoint that I'm trying to make,
right, or whatever it is, andI'll have it finish the post for
me, and or what I'm like.
I want to say this thing, butlike I can't, I don't know how

(37:56):
to say it.
You know, like of those littlethings that would have taken me
freaking an hour before right Tolike find the perfect way to
say it, and so it is so muchfaster to work through with chat
GPT, right and so, and so it'sreally, um, once you start using
it, you don't have to have itright, every single piece of

(38:18):
copy for you.
You know, remembering that,remembering that it's a tool to
help you in the process, andalso, I think, improving your
critical thinking anddecision-making skills, is good,
too right, because, again, it'slike endless possibilities,
endless options.
You can have chat GPT, rewritesomething for you.

Nikita (38:38):
A thousand times, you know.

Kinsey (38:41):
Yeah, and so it's like just being able to really like
think okay, is it like onceagain, progress over perfection
or whatever it is you know likeis this good?
Okay, we're doing this, we'retaking it, we're rolling, we're
keeping like the momentum goingRight.
So I think it definitely cansave you time and it's really.

(39:06):
But it's also like keepingyourself in check, making sure
that you're using it for whatyou need to use it for, making
sure that there's differenttechniques you can use as well
to get it to give you what likeas close to what you want from
the get-go versus.
I know that another timesucking situation with chachi pt
is like teeth trying to getwhat you want out of Chachi.
You go like try to use it forlike a quick question and all of

(39:27):
a sudden, 30 minutes later,you're like it would have been
faster if I would have just donethis myself.
Right.
So it's like also just kind oflike improving your like smaller
.
You know easy promptingtechniques to make sure that
you're using it in a way that'sgoing to be helpful for you
instead of being like a pain inyour you know like so true.

Nikita (39:49):
Oh, my gosh, that's so true, it's huge.
I have found prompting is veryimportant for my use of chat GPT
.
But when we talk about time,and you're so right, it's like
every tool y'all, like, everytool you can like, there's good
versus evil in every tool, likethis really is, and it's the
same thing with chachi.

(40:09):
So, like for for the person whois like all right, all right,
kenty, you kind of sold me onthe fact.
I should at least start dippingmy toe into this.
Let's say that they are going touse this to help them with
their emails, right?
And I'm going to say emailsjust because y'all know me, and

(40:30):
emails, pray, we work together.
We work together, but pray, no,y'all know me and emails are a
love-hate relationship, okay,y'all know me and emails are a
love-hate relationship, okay.
So I am not a writer, eventhough people keep telling me
I'm good at writing and I'm likey'all are cute, y'all just
don't know.
I just say what I'm saying andthen I ask Chachi to make it

(40:52):
sound like me, but keep it clearand quick.
But anyway, how can someonelike start using it for like
quote, unquote emails Like theywant to start sending, like
nurturing emails.
They want to start sendingsales emails.
How do they incorporate orcreate a foundation of steps to
infuse their authentic brandinto creating emails?

Kinsey (41:17):
Oh, I love this too, because I literally kind of got
sidetracked.
I've, girl, I have, like youknow, my feel-good social
projects going on in myauthentic AI project.
I'm like, but it's kind of okayfor my like shiny object brain
in a way, you know, so it worksfor me it's fine.
But I literally just did thisthe other day.
I wrote I was like I just gotinto the zone I was working on

(41:39):
an authentic AI project.
All of a sudden I was like, oh,I have to go write this thing
for feel good social.
And I hopped over there and I'mlike in the zone I'm using
Chachi Petit to write a newwelcome sequence for this summit
that I'm going to be a part of.
And it's like branding ritualsfor fiction authors, right.
And I was like, shoot, I can'tjust use my normal welcome

(42:00):
sequence because it's reallyaimed at entrepreneurs.
I was like I really need todraft a whole new welcome
sequence for these fictionauthors who are coming onto my
list for branding thatintroduces them to feel good
social and then authentic AI andall that different stuff.
So I go over to my ChatGPT and Ihad it write this whole email

(42:23):
sequence with me.
Like it didn't write it for me.
It wrote it with me, right, butit literally took like it took
me like an hour for like fiveemails that I'm really proud of,
you know, and I was like, wow,this is awesome, so it totally
is possible.
But the reason I was able to dothat is a few different things,
right?
The first thing that we need toalways remember especially

(42:46):
especially if you are gettingChatGPT right copy for you, but
really anything, if you're usingit for anything in your
business is we need to trainChatGPT on our brand persona,
right.
So this is something that morepeople are talking about online
in the AI space.
But they weren't enough,especially when I first started
dipping my toes into it ispeople are just like dishing up

(43:09):
all the prompts, like 100prompts for whatever you know,
and they're not like sayinganything about.
Tell chat GPT who your brand is,chat gpt who the heck you're
speaking to, aka your idealcustomers, and also tell chat
gpt what your brand'spersonality, persona, writing
style, tone of voice is right.

(43:31):
And that's really where it'shelpful for the copywriting part
, because if you can change onyour tone of voice and writing
style then it will dish upsomething that way more sounds
like you from the get go thanlike if you don't at all right.
So training on your brand isthe very first step.

(43:51):
And then I will say, for theemail writing thing and the
email sequence especially likethat or writing blogs or even
creating your social mediacontent plan and stuff, I like
to start big picture and slowlymove in or go in like a step by
step way, right.
So a lot of times people willgo to chat and be like write me

(44:13):
a blog post or write me an emailsequence and they're expecting
just like seven emails like allperfectly worded straight out of
chat A random person that itdoesn't know anything about.
That it doesn't know anythingabout.
Yeah, exactly.
So, for example, with my emailsequence I just wrote for the
fiction writers you know italready knows feel good, social,

(44:37):
what our values are, our brandopinions, what we offer in
general.
I've trained out my brand voice, all that stuff, right.
But then, specifically for thisemail sequence, I went to it.
I told it exactly how peopleare coming onto the list through
like a brand rituals freebie,right, I'm telling it who these
people are fiction writers.
You know it actually helped mecreate the freebie in the first

(44:58):
place.
So like it already knew all thedetails of that, right.
But then I was like let's writethe welcome sequence for this.
I think that I want email one tobe drop off the sequence.
Email two is going to besharing more like basic
resources.
Email three is introducingmyself and like sharing a
personal story about branding.
You know.
Email four is going to be this.
Email five is going to be this,and I gave it the strategy.

(45:19):
Then it helped me create anoutline.
And then we dove even deeperinto individual emails and how
we want those emails to go andfinally we got to like the
writing part of each individualemail and like just breaking it
down in those steps and likegiving it the strategy and
really giving it direction wassuper helpful.
So like don't just go to chatGPD and be like help me write an

(45:40):
email.
You know you have to give itthe strategy, you have to train
it on your brand, right?

Nikita (45:45):
yeah, that was so good.
That little clip alone isreally good for anyone who's
like, how do I use this thing?
Uh, that's huge and you'reright, there's only it.
It was you and one other personthat I heard talking about how
to infuse your brand into chat,like chat GPT, and everybody

(46:07):
else is like, oh, here's aprompt.
I'm like, yeah, but you aremissing the other piece which is
like the prompt for who and forwhat.
What business like this is whywe get these emails and this is
why Chachi still cannot, evenwith these sometimes, like brand
personas, still uses the reallyannoying things like unlock and

(46:29):
transform and like the wordsthat you're like trying to strip
it.
It can't because everyone keepsusing the same prompts without
giving it its brand and itsperson that it's like it's not
getting specific enough.

Kinsey (46:42):
So that was really good, really good tips there oh, I,
yeah, if you want me to godeeper into like making it, like
training it on your brand voice, I totally can, because yeah,
that's one of those things too.
I'm such a word nerd like Ihave so been enjoying like
getting chat to get to try, liketrying to get chat to be to

(47:05):
sound like me and guys.
Just so you know for context,like I have probably only word
for word used, copy pastedsomething from chat to be like I
mean never.
I got like I've gotten reallyreally close to word for word,
just like changing two words up.
I got like I've gotten reallyreally close to word for word,
just like changing two words upmaybe or something like two

(47:28):
times.
I think Right, and still likethe stuff that it dishes up for
me is so similar to me, to myvoice, and like what I want to
say and how I want to say it,because I've trained it, that I
still write things in like fiveminutes and like I make like 10
changes usually to the copy thatchat GPD throws my way and
stuff.
And or if it's just likedeleting emojis, cause over
emoji usage is another one orexactly swapping out words Like

(47:51):
yeah, Unleash is another wordloves any unword.
It's so weird.

Nikita (47:57):
It's like I, I this is a tangent, I'm sorry, I'm like
why do we talk like that innormal life?
I really am like I.
I'm like I don't think weactually like humans actually
talk like that.
I think I don't often, likebefore chat GPT, I don't often

(48:17):
hear people saying unleash andlet's transform, like I hear
more specific, specificdescriptive adjectives and verbs
and it's so interesting thatgirl Chachi has just kind of
like taking those words and saywe're just going to pump them up
into this little word that weall use and I'm like I am tired

(48:40):
of seeing this.

Kinsey (48:41):
You know, you know I mean of course there's like so
many different reasons and stuff.
But especially if you are usingChachi PT, if you're, you know,
one of those popular things tobe like act as a marketing
strategist, be a you knowcopywriting expert, act as a
marketing strategist, be a youknow, copywriting expert, and

(49:01):
those are words that copywritersuse and that's marketing
language Right.
So like there's that, and also,just like I mean there are
buzzwords that are just likeloves to use its power language
Right, and it is kind ofconvincing sometimes.
You know, like a lot of timespeople use that when it's it's
action language, it's probablyit's like how chat gpt is being
trained.

(49:22):
It's it's the little nuances inthe way that we're asking it to
do things that and it and ittries to please us and it tries
to give us what we want.
But exactly, I'm like I use the.
So I've been getting crucial alot lately in my chat GPT, like
everything is fricking crucial.
I'm like I say important, and Isay important without the T,

(49:45):
cause I'm from Indiana, you knowlike no, but like yeah, it's
like having those little things.
It's like I always read, rereadthrough things.
I'm like is this something Iwould say every day.
Is this how humans talk?
No Do they say importantinstead of crucial.
Yes Do they say.
You know, I'm trying to think Ihave like go.
I have like all these little goto words in my pocket that I'll

(50:06):
just like swap out if Chachikeys, is it because I think you
said this earlier, even if weask it not to use specific words
.
That's one of the hardest thingsto really get chat gbp to like
not, do you know?
I will yell at it too.

Nikita (50:21):
I'll be like I told you not to use emojis and it'll be
like I apologize, you know hereyou go, like I'm like, oh,
whatever, yeah, well, I thinkthere's something, too, I want
to bring to this.
It's like it's a new tool.
Have fun with it, you know.
Yes, get like training aroundhow you can best use it, become

(50:45):
very well versed in it andknowing how to use it Kinsey has
she'll share with you guys.
She has lots of tools that canhelp you.
But also, like it doesn't haveto be this thing that's out to
get you either, like I thinkthat's important to say Earlier
in the conversation I wastalking about like how, back in
the day, digital photography waslike shunned upon for a while

(51:09):
and now we have such a beautifulworld of digital art in
different ways and now, even now, like I have a client right now
who has started using filmphotography and digital and it's
like creating these beautifullike images of the two worlds
kind of coming together, and Ithink there is there's room for
you to have fun and play insteadof just being like so worried

(51:32):
that it's like out to get you orthat it's going to take your
time, or like it's a new tool.
And I think we have to bring ourcuriosity and creativity to
using new tools, especially ifyou're a business owner,
especially if you especially forall my chronic illness warriors
.
If you are trying to save somespoons, this is a tool that can
help you.

(51:53):
It's not a tool that.
That that's not like.
It's not foolproof.
There's nothing that'sfoolproof right, there's nothing
that's foolproof, but it'sdefinitely helpful.
Think about when they startusing AI for automation,
marketing and just the like.
Personal use, because I use ita lot for personal things like

(52:25):
researching, doctors and allthis other kind of stuff.
But, like, how, what are somethings that you would say are
your top three things whenthinking about AI?

Kinsey (52:36):
Oh yeah, oh, the top three.
Okay, I know Well, I think wehit on like a lot, quite a few
of them.
You know like I might end upjust sharing a few, more than
three, but I'll try to keep it.
But you know, firstly, bringingyour own brand to it.
It's up to you to tell it whoyour brand is and who it's
speaking to, and also bring yourown ideas.

(52:57):
Tell it who your brand is andwho it's speaking to, and also
bring your own ideas to it, yourown expertise to it.
Like I said, like I think thatone of the best ways to use it
to get it to help me do my workmore quickly is to I gave it the
email welcome sequence strategy.
I wasn't like what is an emailwelcome sequence strategy for
this?
I't like what is an emailwelcome sequence strategy for

(53:19):
this?
I was like here is how I wantthe sequence to go, and or like
if I wouldn't have known whatemail I wanted for email for in
the welcome sequence, I mighthave asked it that, but I didn't
just expect it to give meeverything I kind of like guide
it along and work with it.
And same thing with, like, mybrand voice and all those
different things.
So bringing yourself to theseand using them as an assistant

(53:42):
tool is always great.
Remembering that the goldenrules of chat GPT, which is that
it is not always correctFirstly, it's not always factual
and it's not always correct foryour brand, right?
So just remembering and it canbe very convincing.
So just remembering to alwaysmaintain autonomy over the

(54:05):
output.
Remembering this is aconversation.
This isn't a perfect tool, and Ilove what you just said too,
because you know we do tend tothink of this as just another
tool.
Like, you go to Google and youGoogle something and you're
pretty much going to get thesame search results.
This, like every time youGoogle, right, unless, like, if
you Google the same thing,within five minutes, each other

(54:26):
the same things are going to popup.
That is not the same forChachiBT.
That's why it is called AI,artificial intelligence.
It has a mind of its own andit's really funny if you kind of
start thinking of it as abumbly assistant sometimes or
whatever it is like, then youcan kind of like find more humor
in the times when it doesn'tnecessarily give you what you

(54:49):
want, right, like, and it'shilarious.
Now, I've been on so many chatGPT trainings.
I've trained on chat GPT myselfand I swear, every time I like
attend a chat GPT training bymultiple different people,
there's something that pops upthat the people are like oh,
this didn't happen when I usedthis prop before and we all just

(55:11):
kind of laugh about it becauseit's chat GPT.
Oh, chat GPT, you know.
And so just remembering thatfor sure.
And then, yeah, just likeremembering that, like, you're
allowed to use AI in how,whatever way you want to use it
for you you know you don't haveto be using it for all the
things you know.
you can use it to automatethings, you can use it to write

(55:33):
things for you, but like at thesame time.
If you don't like, that's okay.
If you start slow, that's okay,because it's just like anything
else it can get, it can be easyto get sucked into.
Now I have to learn all thesethings Like.
There's so much like.
It can be so much moreoverwhelming and like.
And especially when people aretelling you you have to do this,
you have to do that.

(55:53):
I ran into that when I went toa podcast conference.
It was like everybody was beinglike you're not doing video
podcasting, I'm like shut up.
Like no, it doesn't work for me.

Nikita (56:04):
You're not alone.
You're not alone.
I was the same person,everybody's just.
I'm just getting into likehaving video as as a part of
being like for the marketing ofthe podcast it's.
I still have no plans to starta video podcast.
I have no plans for it, none.

Kinsey (56:21):
Thank you.
Okay, here's, here's my thing.
Okay, this is what I telleveryone.
I'm like okay, I startedauthentic AI podcast thinking,
yep, I'm going to go for it, I'mgoing to just buckle down, I'm
going to do video podcasting andguess what I did it.
I posted episode number one andI didn't post another episode
for like a month and a halfbecause I couldn't get the

(56:41):
freaking videos done.
So guess what?
Instead, I'm just doing audio.
That's manageable for me.
I can put it out there, and Ihave gained so many students.
I have gained so many newaudience members to my email
list.
I have, like, made so many newconnections because I'm showing
up in the way that I am capableof.

Nikita (57:04):
You know, girl, that's a whole nother episode about
doing what works for you so youcan show up and actually do the
thing.
We already know.
We already know, but we're notgoing down that road today.
Thank you so much for comingand keeping it real, about
keeping AI authentic and realfor you.
What are some tools that youhave?

(57:26):
I will vouch for Kinsey's toolsagain right now.
One of the points that she saidare the three things about
approaching it with you.
About approaching it with youIf you're working with a coach
or a mentor or a consultant,nine times out of the 10, they
are giving you the strategy youneed in order to do this thing

(57:46):
and instead of using it like, oh, now I want to create a new one
, use the strategy that yourcoach or your mentor gave you
and give it to Chachi to helpyou create this thing.
You don't have to go and try toreinvent the wheel and beat your
coach.
That don't make any sense.
People Some of my clients havebeen using a lot of your course

(58:12):
that you have and some otherthings I think they have been
using, like some cheap checklistsheets I don't remember, but
they've been telling me they'vebeen using it to like formulate
the strategy that I've giventhem in their business with
Chachi in order to create someof the content and things like
that ideas.
So tell us a little bit aboutsome of the things you've got.

Kinsey (58:35):
Oh, totally.
I'm so excited to hear thatyour clients are using my stuff.
I love it.
So, yeah, okay.
So free stuff, free stuff.
We have the podcast which Iinterview experts and also just
like dish up practical,practical, approachable tips for
sure.
So, authentic AI podcast.
Just Google that on yourpodcast platforms.
I also just released I'm soexcited about this.

(58:58):
I'm calling it the authentic AItech toolkit because I know
tech overwhelm is real when itcomes to AI tools and, like so
many out there, how do youchoose what's right for you?
And like also wait, what wasthat one tool that that one
person told me about, like Idon't know?
So I created a free, just likeonline digital hub, a library,

(59:20):
where I'm just like adding allof the recommended tools that I
hear from podcast guests in ourauthentic AI community.
So it's all tools that havebeen tried and tested for
various things, right?
So if you're just interested inwhat tools should I choose,
then that's a really greatresource and also my brand
persona for Chachi PT minicourse, I think, is what a lot

(59:42):
of your clients have been using.
So that really helps.
It's an hour long ish courseand I give you all the prompts
and step-by-step stuff.
You need to train Chachi PT onyour brand persona, right.
So we walk you through theprocess of telling Chachi PT who
your brand is, what you care.
We walk you through the processof telling Chachi PT who your
brand is, what you care about,who you're speaking to, who your

(01:00:03):
ideal customers are, and thenthere's two methods for training
Chachi PT to sound like you and, on your brand voice, to write
copy for you and whatnot, and soI share both of those in the
mini course too, depending onwhich one works for you.
So, yeah, those are probablythe best resources.
I'm about to launch a contentmade easy with ChatGPT course,

(01:00:25):
which I'm super excited about aswell, and that's taking it a
little bit next level withcontent creation with ChatGPT.
So if anyone's interested inthat, that should be coming soon
, yeah.

Nikita (01:00:34):
Very, very cool.
Yes, I, like I said, check itout.
We'll have the links to the, toall of the stuff in the show
notes and you can connect withKinsey there and learn all about
both brands Authentic AI andFeel Good Social.
And yeah, thank you so much forbeing here.
This was fun and it was lovelyto catch up with you.

Kinsey (01:00:56):
Oh, thank you so much for having me, lady.
I've so enjoyed it.

Nikita Williams (01:01:02):
That's a wrap for this episode of Business
with Chronic Illness.

Nikita (01:01:05):
If you would like to start and grow an online
coaching business with me, headto the show notes to click a
link to book a sales call andlearn how to make money with
chronic illness.
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