All Episodes

June 23, 2025 39 mins

There’s a secret club in Canada. And trust me, you don’t want to be a member. 


If you’re in this club, your first response when you hear news about bombs and death and carnage in the Middle East is not to hop onto Twitter or Facebook to post your political opinion about it. Your first response is to make a long-distance phone call to try to find out if your family and friends over there are still alive. 


Lebanese Canadians are in this club, Palestinian Canadians are in this club, Jewish Canadians are in this club. And last week, hundreds of thousands of Iranian Canadians joined the club too. 


Today we talk to two Iranian-Canadians with very different perspectives about what’s happened since Israel attacked Iran last week and what it could mean in the future. 


Credits:

Host: Jesse Brown

Caleb Thompson (Post Production), Bruce Thorson (Senior Producer), max collins (Director of Audio), Jesse Brown (Editor and Publisher)


Fact checking by Max Collins

Additional music by Audio Network


Follow Our Guests: 


Amir Attaran Bluesky 


Kaveh Shahrooz Twitter



Sponsors: 


CAMH: CAMH is building better mental health care for everyone to ensure no one is left behind. Visit camh.ca/canadaland to make a donation.


BetterHelp: Visit betterHelp.com/canadaland today to get 10% off your first month.


Single Key: Try it out for yourself: use the promo code CANADALAND to get your first SingkeKey report free at singlekey.com.


If you value this podcast, support us! You’ll get premium access to all our shows ad free, including early releases and bonus content. You’ll also get our exclusive newsletter, discounts on merch at our store, tickets to our live and virtual events, and more than anything, you’ll be a part of the solution to Canada’s journalism crisis, you’ll be keeping our work free and accessible to everybody.  

 

You can listen ad-free on Amazon Music—included with Prime.


Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mark as Played

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

24/7 News: The Latest

24/7 News: The Latest

The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.

Stuff You Should Know

Stuff You Should Know

If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.