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was looking over at Goldie. I thought it was falling
asleep over there. You know, definitely not, jeez. Not When
Solar joins me on Zoom, He's on it like Vonics boy,
he's hitting it, and I was like, looked at you
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thinking you were gonna do it. I know, I wanted
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Solar that you're joining me here in studio right now
today because we have a guest Peter Sue now Peter
Sus from Green Check Verified. He's out of New York.
Thank you for joining us again. Peter. It's always a
pleasure to have yours. You'll be on another podcast talking
about Green Check Verified and everything that they do. But
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I wanted to bring you on the show, Peter, because
the other day Solar and I talked about this uh
new dispensary that was opening up in New York and
you being in New York. Naw I, Um, you're born
and raised in New York Taiwan. Well, you know, I
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don't know if people have heard that podcast yet, but yes,
you were dropped off. No, I'm just kidding you. Immigranted
and e s L. English is a second language over there.
And some irony you saying immigranted. Why because you know
it's wrong. It's not a real word. It's not immigranted. Immigranted, No,
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not immigranted. You're an immigrants. Immigranted is not a word.
You know. I've made up words my whole life. Dog,
I've checked this out. Here's a funny story. When I
was a sp president, I used this word called obliabilities
and my vice president goes he what he means is
your responsibilities and your obligations. I go, see, that's my boy,
brand Cooper knows what I'm talking about. That's my dog,
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and the presidents today are doing it. So that just
goes to show you. I may have a job in
Paul antics still and so Peter I did that with you.
You're immigrated, which means bottom line is you're an immigrant,
as we all are. But you know, you came from
Taiwan and we're in New York City most of your life.
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So Solar and I did a podcast the other day
and we talked about this new Can you change that
back to how it sounds? Thank you? A new dispensary
about to open up in New York And by the
time you're listening to this, I'm sure it's opened up,
but it's opening up in Manhattan's Greenwich Village. Is the
second dispensary that's gonna be opening up out there. But
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tell me a little bit, Peter, how is the cannabis
whole vibe out there? Because we've seen footage and I
feel like it's the most craziest thing I've ever seen.
For instance, is it really true and not made up
that they realistically have people selling weed on owners out
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of like boxes and like clear boxes and bags and
pop ups like literally pop ups, like a tart pop up. Yeah. Yeah, unfortunately. Yeah,
we have, um call it illegal dispensaries everywhere, and um,
you know Washington Square Park you walked through. We're to
be fair, that's where people always got their joints right.
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But now they're out and open with with like tables
and stuff like that. So it has become a problem
because it's moving so fast, right, I mean, you just
had the first store, was that December twenty nine or
something that opened up. I forgot around that one. But
then the other one just opened up last Monday, I
believe smacked, right, Joe, Yes, good memory, They're smack just
opened up in Greenwich Village. Correct. So it's just still
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I mean, because US California is it's kind of like
not watching your kids and watching a little brother. You know, Yeah,
you were in this game for a little while. Now
your brother wants to get a little brother wants to
get in the game, and kind of ease them into him,
you know, you know what I mean, But then you know,
pretty soon you're your brother's just you know, taking on
so much, you know. I mean the New York you know,
Legacy Markets obviously is going to be there with those
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pop ups you're saying, there boxes and tarps and stuff. Again,
that's what going on in the Corner game, right, Yeah,
I mean lately, at least in the city, the enforcement
has gone up significantly, presumably due to you know, now
that legal stories are are finally opening up there. They're
trying to support that business more. But it has become
a problem. Honestly. We we have vans illegal ones that
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that like ice cream truck. Yeah yeah, literally driving around
Time Square illegally parked by the way, and so um.
You know, in the city of New York, you you
would need a to part in the health as well
as avengers license, right, And if it's cannabis, then you
also need a cannabis license. And because you're not selling fruit,
you're selling cannabis, and so these things have none of
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the three you know. So but yet there they are. Yeah.
And you not only are you a senior VP at
Green Check verified, you're heavily involved in the cannabis ace overall.
If I'm not mistaken, give me some of the credentials
that you have in the cannabis space. I know you're
like part of the Asian cannabis community. Please explain everything
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you're that you're doing in the space. Sure. So on
the banking front, uh why, I very recently finished a
term with the n CIA, the National Cannabis Industry Association.
I was on the Banking of Financing Committee. I chair
the New York City Cannabis Industry Association's Banking and Financial
Services Committee. I am a an advisor for the Minority
Cannabis Academy and I'm the treasurer of Asian Cannabis round Table.
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Can I break you up? Okay? First of all, the
last show we did with Mr Peter Sue, I felt
like I was sent through a Harvard business class. He's
this guy. All his acronyms that you guys mentioned on
the show, um, everything you know on your Lincoln page.
It was just it was free game. So if you
if you listen to that episode, it was free games.
He's I'm intrigued by him. Elvis, Thank god Elvis sent
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him to us, and you flew in from New York
to to be on the show. So now that you're
so heavily involved in the space as you see the
space growing in cannabis, are you proud saying? Because I'm
sure you're, you know, proud New Yorker, but where it's at. See,
I didn't realize that there's these ice cream trucks out
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there like that. I'm just gonna call my I scream trucks.
But you know you're calling him just a mobile van
or whatever, like the Scooby Doo van, Like, Hey, you
want to buy some weighty little kid like are they
even checking people's ideas or do you even know? Like, well,
it's crazy is that you don't know? Is um you
know it as you woke up to something, Dan or whatever.
Do you necessarily know what you're buying? Right? So the
reality is, is is it hemp a ride for example, you
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have no idea what you're buying. I mean, Peter, I'm
gonna go on a fucking different limbit said. If I
was buying it from Goldie, which you know what I mean.
Goldie may have sold a bag or two in his time,
Do I know what I'm getting through him? Maybe he's
my boy? Yeah, you know what? Never so weird, okay,
But my point is you're buying it from somewhere and
and a lot of times you don't know where they're
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getting from. You gotta trust quote on quote, your boy
or your girl whoever, your your your hook up period.
So if you're looking at the van that's in the neighborhood,
I'm not so worried me personally, Like when I look
at that, I do think it's great for everything to
be regulated. Don't get me wrong, I think it's appropriate.
Just like Lettuce and tomatoes and everything else should be.
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I think the cannabis should be as well. But when
you say that to me, that's where the black market
is popping so hard, because why I'm not going to
spend that much on an eighth when I can still
buy it now for thirty five bucks. You know, I mean,
are called Daniel and be like Daniel hook it up,
you know what I mean? And uh well, actually, funny enough,
our markets flooded with your products, not you like California products.
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What what do you see out there? Yea? What brands
come out big? A lot of them like literally had
metric tags like these are legit, Like I'm sure you
got the cookies, the Dizzies and all those guys. So
guys like Burner, who do you oh not Burner like cookies?
I mean Burner Like okay, gut is. Do you think
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it's real or do you think they're knockoffs? I think
they're real. There's a counterfeit issue actually the industry right now,
there's a huge counterfeity and the d c C has
you know, knocked on some of the people we worked
with and saying you know, hey, you got this, this
and that, And people have told me This isn't me.
I've been founding fighting counterfeit for years now, you know,
and I will see you d C C. I get
these guys off the sholves. You know. I feel it's both.
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I feel like there's a lot of backdoor deals that
you know, we want to push this all over the place,
and you know, and and let's just face it, you
know they had to do it. That Leaka is coming
in in a lot of industries, right, thank you. They
call it a gu from my head was going they
called it a ghost shifting. So you know, let's say
we we shut down the store tonight and hey, you
know it's a lot we go back there, we we
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we run off hundreds of units. You know, whatever measurement
you want to go by. That that's that's real much doable.
Not only that, you guys, there there's markets for this
in all different avenues of stores. Meaning guess what clothing.
That's why we have the Ross dress for less because
if I couldn't sell all my clothes at Macy's, I'm
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selling him now to Ross, selling him to t J Max,
I'm selling him to these other places. It's the same
kind of concept backdoor deal. But but I think the
the illegal backdoor deals when you're yeah, that's I'm just
saying those are legal. When the little boy, I mean,
I had a friend, you know, in high school who
worked at North Shrman stock room. You know he was
picking up seven jeans, true Legion pants, you know all
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the done I design of ship. Selling off the back end.
You know that's called stealing. That's not a backdoor deal
from a company doing it. That's your boy stealing, guy.
I mean, you know what I mean, man, I when
I was younger, when I worked at Kentucky Fried Chicken,
I would take the leftover chicken and take it to
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school and sell each piece for a quarter back in
the day. You know what I'm saying. So if you
wanted to know how much went home with you back,
I mean, will we get a picture, Joe, Yeah, there
at least old and I put that on everything. Dog,
I'll be selling you Give me a dollar and I'll
give you five pieces. Bootleg Oh no, it's not bootlegs
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was fresh from KFC the night before. Yeah, I mean
it's cannabis talk one. Oh, we're gonna cut back talk
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on Instagram. Aunt Rocket, I'm just sure seeds, Peter. I'm
so happy you're here with us today. I'm gonna get
into the high five with you in a bit. But
hearing all your accolades and cannabis or what you did
and what you're doing, um, especially with green check verified,
but knowing what the pulsay is out there, because like
I said, Solar and I were talking, have you been
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to the first legal dispensary that opened up in Yeah?
Are you doing their banking? Well, I'm sorry, Uh, yes,
our client is doing their banking. Oh really, you guys
are helping working with us directly, but yes, my clients
and so with the from not Mistaken thirty six new
license are gonna be distributed out in New York. They
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said twenty that they want to make sure that are
popping by this year, a second dispensary is opening up.
Probably by the time you're listening to this now. It's
just gonna which where we're recording this with Friday within
a couple of days from now. But what do you
see because I feel this like sadness for the legal
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ones that the first one and the second one popping up.
When if I have one in Green rich and one
in the West, where was it at east or whatever
it's at in a different borrow? I think there's two
in each borrow. Yeah, I mean I shared the story
on a different podcast, and I can right now they're
both in like sort of the Lower Manhattan arenet know,
they're both in Manhattan's village each other? Are the illegal
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corner shops and those vans that you described, are they
right by those as well? That's that's what I mean.
That's why I feel bad because say Solar, say we own,
all three of us own a illegal one. We all
go in on it and we get our license because
you know, one of us has a social whatever whatever,
and then Goldie's over there and Daniel's over there. They're
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all selling illegally over there. The police not doing nothing
about this. What they are they are? Um you know,
I want to get the city's shout out here. I
think they have put in a lot of effort, especially recently,
to actually crack down on that. Um uh. But yeah,
like like that. There's a lot of unlicensed shops operating
illegally um and real storefronts. I've seen it. I've actually
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seen people that have a full on storefront dispensary. And
like in Brooklyn, we've interviewed one of the guys. It's like, yeah,
well he's running it like it's legal, but it's not
price sheets and everything like right up front. Yet it's
everything but the license. Basically, it's the whole bluebirnt of
how it should run, but it's not running. And one
of the reasons that I feel like, correct me if
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I'm wrong, but like you know, the mayor said right
off the bat after that first shop opened, as we
mentioned the other day, is we're going to battle the
black market. You guys aren't gonna say, we're gonna make
it so you guys can't thrive here. And the reddick
they're using is how you know, fental fentanyl is becoming
a huge issue out here from California, New York, everything between.
There's a fencinyl crisis in America. Now. I we keep
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hearing reports, you know, we do this thing this all day.
How the illegal cannabis market is their products are getting
tested positive for FENCYL. So that's kind of like the
backing behind it, kind of why they want to regulate
these guys. So it's just creating that safe space of
like meet us through our stuff is getting tested Goldie
Daniel back there and they're they're not power to them.
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If you guys are in the legal market and you
guys test your stuff, great, but there's nobody behind you're saying, hey,
you guys have to test this before you put out
in your story. Well, like Peter mentioned earlier on the
first break, like you don't know where you're getting it from,
which I agree with your theory, even though I was
contradicting it saying, well we didn't know when when we're
still getting it where. That's why I do like the
legal market, and that's why, especially here in California, actually
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across everywhere, the average person that goes into a dispensary
it's fifty five and over, which is you know, even
more ironic because you're looking at buying trusted cannabis and
it's an avice market. The new the new users, not users,
the new, the newcomers of the industry. Right, So therefore
you know, I am a firm believer in having regulation.
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I wish it was all fifty statewide because then it
makes it easier. I really like what Michigan is doing
more with the laws there as ironically talked to uh
Jesus name is drawn to blank from Hellman groups Brian Buckley,
and Brian Buckley's working with so many governors in this
and that, and he was breaking down rules and laws
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to me, and he's saying, look what they're doing, a
miss and Joe, this piece is good. Here. What they're
doing over there is good. And my point is if
we can get everybody to just realize the best best
best from each state of what they're doing. I mean
to get on a federal level, that'd be ideal. Right,
once we want to be able to get there. I
don't know how or where that's going to even happen,
because California is overcharging everybody by all means taxes for this,
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for that, and then you know, no attack towards you
by no means, Peter. But even to get banking costs
about a thousand bucks a month to get your bank account,
where if you had a liquor store doesn't cost that.
If you had a regular T shirt store, doesn't cost that. So,
but it is what it is. It's not you, Peter,
it's not you know, It's just is what it is.
But I don't like it. Well, if you want to
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reduce crime, let these guys bank, Let these guys have
a bank account. Nobody wants to stack x amount of
cash on I mean, because we're now paying extra taxes
for our dispensery. Using this analogy, if we three have it,
Goldie and Daniel over there are not paying for the
banking that we've got to do now extra because we
do want to have legal banking, and it's legal and
it's great for us. But now what does that mean?
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That means our profits hurts more? And so now you
only have two stores opening up right now in New
York that are that are popping? Are you seeing that
these are Do you feel like they're gonna thrive or
do you see I mean, because you're working too. If
I'm not mistaken with the actual mayor, do you are
you like in tide with with the city, like your
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organizations that you're a part of actually work with a
lot of the political entities in New York. Well so,
so Mayor Adams had a advisory Council, of which I
was a part of. UM under Cannabis n y C
it's more of so under Dashida Dawson's leadership, it's it's
it's a little bit different now, but I did have
a role with advisory Council. Yeah. Um, you know, is
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it thriving. Yes, I mean that the first day they're
the lines are four hours long. People waited on four hours.
But of course pointing out there's some novelty to that, right,
so like like that might wear off. You know, it's
at some point you products gotta stand its home, so
we'll see, you know. Now. One thing to point out
is it was definitely like a hurry up and wait
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kind of situation in New York, New York City especially
right like they're they were having some issues rolling out,
rolling out really and then suddenly it was like I'm
going to assume there was some politics and pr involved,
like we gotta open the store because the governor has
already said we'll could open the store. That's how you campaign. Yeah,
I mean they were saying twenty stores by the end
of twenty two. We got one, so you know they're
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saying it by the end they're gonna have twenty stores now,
so you know, first quarter, right, we're gonna start rolling
out stores and uh not just New York City, all
over the state, you know. Uh So on the one hand,
it's it's going as fast as it can. On the
other hand, they're clearly well behind, right, and that it
is the summation of everything that that we're talking about, right, Like,
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why is there so much trouble? They just gave such
a long way, right, Like like people started looking around
saying like, well, none of these guys getting busted. I'm
gonna open the store too, you know. Um, And now
they're they're catching back up right now. Now they have
to go out there and and like start sweeping up
all this stuff. Um, will they succeed? I mean, we'll
we'll see, right, Like we we had a lot of
these um memberships, right, so instead of buying a product,
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you pay for a membership. So on paper, they're not
breaking any laws, right, you didn't buy it. I bought
legal services. I bought a T shirt, right, but I
bought for a hug or whatever. Yeah, So so we
had a we had a ton of those U uh,
you know, you're you're joining a club, be joining a membership.
You're not buying a product which on paper, based on
our our our REGs, there was no sale of products
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which which is which is what is written in the REGs.
We gifted you this correct and that of course has
now been been explicitly banned by by the states. So
as you're a part of these committees, do you feel
like where it's going is happening the right way? Um?
I think they're really trying. I mean, we we've put
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a lot of effort into social equity licenses, right, so
the first retail licenses, right, this is written into law.
First retail license are going towards people with marijuana convictions
in the state of New York. So again, hats off
to the state, hats off to the city that this
is what we want to do. If you've been negatively
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impacted by the War on drugs, you're going to go
head of the line. Now that it's an actual industry,
and multibillion dollar industry. Um. Having said that that, the
rollout has been challenged and as a result, I think
they put themselves and unfortunately to your point, you know,
some of these new stores opening up are not just
stacked up against other retailers they're stacked up against corner
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shops and people with boxes, you know. Um. Now, I
think from a safety perspective, it's an interesting perspective, Like
if you have an illegal shop in we literally have
three in like Times Square, right, you know, three like corners. Yeah, yeah,
it's in Times Square. Bro Um. If you've been to
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Time Square, this cops every three ft you know. So
so those those guys have round the clock police protection.
But you know it's funny, you I mean, you've been
in New York, New York, Like, I feel like they
casually smoke way more than they do out here, you
know what I mean. Like, remember when I used to
visit New York, Like I was telling you, man, my
cousins and all their friends, would you be smoking in
Times Square? Smoking on the street? And it's like, damn,
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what are we sure this is a legal out here?
For a second, I was like, it's New York legal,
But I mean people are smoking up there. People are
you know holiday you know, you know. Well, So not
to get too nerdy, but I think there's this issue
of the sort of conflating the difference between decriminalization and legalization. Right,
So if you legalize, there's a system, follow this path.
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This is how you get this is how you get
a license, This is how you sell ship. Right, if
you decriminalize, that means there's there's no crime. There's no crime.
So we actually had a situation where uh and and
there's an article you could look this up there they pulled.
So they asked a bunch of the local ags like, hey,
we got all these attorney generals. So we're talking county
prosecutors people like that, and they're saying, hey, we got
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all these illegal shops everywhere. Why aren't you guys doing
something about him? Half of these prosecutors hold said, we're
not sure what crime we would charge them with. Right,
So because they criminal is it not a crime? What
do you do about it? Dude? You just made my
mouth drop right now because about that. But telling it's
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illegal though, Right, you have a product, you have to
have a license to sell, but there's no license. Well
let's let's but now there is because now you've got
thirty six that they're giving out. You know, they gave
thirty six, so now it's a different scenario. Correct, correct now,
But at the time that you say that, you're right,
what crime are they breaking? You stacked up all these
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people that that is coming to the same conclusion going well,
what the funk right? And decriminalizing not a crime, there's
no crime, Like what are they can charge me with?
You know, like the vans we talked about at one
point they grabbed a bunch of them, you know, tot
them and everything like that. You know what they charge
them with illegal prokerma tickets. It's hilarious. It's not hilarious,
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but it's just meant for them. Right now, we're gonna
get you for this, like the al capone stuff. We're
gonna get so so they will call it petty you
to death. You know. They don't want to put people
in jail, which makes sense, but they will find a way.
Like he does an illegal shop. Hey, you know you've
got too many lights. Hey you have an own registered business,
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Hey doesn't registered? Grow, you're using different utilities, you know, etcetera, etcetera.
They'll always find a way. They'll always find a way.
Your hands on the pulse out there, you're dealing with
license and legal cannabis entities with green check verified that
you're a senior VP with How are these people that
you're dealing with in New York feeling about you know,
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this circus that's going on there. Uh, you know, I
think cautiously optimistic. I mean, people are still pushing hard
trying to get licensed. Right. Um. The problem is, yeah,
you're spending money, time, effort into opening a store, and
we're talking hundreds of thousands of millions of dollars, right,
and anyone could just pop up a shop for like
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almost no money. Right, So cautiously optimistic people are still
doing that, still putting in the effort, still putting in
money and just praying. I think, you know, but I
think big picture, right, like it's gonna work out. This
is the biggest market between California New York, these are
the biggest markets, right. So of course, well New York
to number one market in the country because there's so
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many people, it's overpopulated. So I mean when you look
at that, and then you look at cannabis being out
there everywhere, and literally I've seen four pop up like
a tent and then it just they're selling right there
under a tent like with little boxes, which to me
is the most It's like gross scout cookies, right, Like
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you go to the store and you buy gros Scout cookies.
It's literally leave the same concept that I've seen. Is
that true or not true? Still, it's true. Unfortunately, it's
it's a little bit of a ship. Like I'll call
you mind. Let's say I brew my own moonshine and
you might buy it off from the street. Which if
you're gonna go for the moonshine commercial, because moonshine, let's
be really you gotta make it, you know, it's a
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it's an entity, you know about moonshine where you get
it from some guy off the street, because that's how
it's me that's the theory behind moonshine. But now they
have moonshine. They slapped a sticker on it. Now they
sell an Albert you love, we'll get some moonshine. Is
there a moonshine really being sold now like that? Oh? Yeah,
that's how it started. That's the origin of moonshine. Of
how it's like, does anybody ever come to your barn
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ask you for moonshine? Yeah? Yeah, I've had get that
moonshine rod. It's always those guys, you know who who
think they're a part of a biker organization. Yes, who
following style that attitude strong I formed a double yeah,
right basically, but no, I mean I don't want to
see the same you know, trans transcendence. But it's like,
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you know, it's I brew my own beer, but I
can't go sell it outside, right, Yeah, I gotta go.
You know, if you think about it, that there's a
little bit of a almost a role reversal. Right, so
say say you buy um anything alcoholic by beer forty ounds.
You know, you can't walk around Times Square with your
forty it's illegal. You can walk around with your jointing
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and you can't smoke it, absolutely, So the cops aren't
busting nobody for smoking. It's not illegal recreationally, it's not illegal.
You can walk down the street. I mean, I'm sure
you guys have similar to large now within a couple
of hundred yards of schools and stuff like that, a
couple of those regulations. You can't have a storefront church around, well,
the store cannot be But if you were walking, if
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you're just walking around smoking and uh, there is no
crime that the police officer can charge you with it.
They can't even stop you. Actually, yeah, that's a little
more laxed in over here. That's it's it's like a
weird role reversal. So you go into a store in
Manhattan which is illegal, which is a lead goal store.
You buy forty you cannot walk around and drink it.
You walk into an illegal store, you can't walk around
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this book. That is crazy to say it like that, dude,
because there's only one at this moment right now, and
you know, when you're listening to this are probably too.
But for us, there's only one legal store in the
state of New York right now, only one recreation story. Okay,
so that record, Sorry my bad. Medicinally, you still have
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to have your car all the twenty one. You gotta
have your medical car twenty one. And then there's two
recreational storefronts, right one and then the other one is
actually a pop up so okay, yeah, that's the smacking about.
And then we're gonna have a bunch of We're gonna
have a bunch more that that's opening. You know, short,
they're gonna man, yeah, if I understand the New York
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market both like, man, you know they're gonna be I'm
gonna ask you, I want you to think about this
when we come back, Peter, We're gonna take a break
right now. But when we come back, where do you
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wait for Cally Effects to be out there and go
to New York. Yeah, the ne Sea before we get
into the high five. Like I said, I was asking
about the boroughs that are gonna be out there, because
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when I was reading the story the other day on
the show. If I'm not mistaken, I could probably find
it pretty damn fast. Among the thirties six lions awarded
by the state, thirteen were awarded to businesses, based across
New York City's five boroughs, three in the Bronx, Foreign Queens,
Foreign Manhattan, and two in Staten Island. Now, we have
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a native here that's been there since he's been nine
years old, So let's just call it raised damn near
born in New York City. You've seen it all. Where
do you think is going to be the most profitable?
Are the most cannabis soul? Period? Man? And why I
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would have said Queen's personally because it's like so many
people in the Queen's area, Like, if you've ever been
down there, see what you want to call Queen's is
a lot of the legacy market Manhattan, you have a
lot of tech correct tech finance kind of those guys.
But I think it would be my vote. Right where
do you stay at I'm on Lone Island, I'm in
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the suburbs, Okay, I got cousins in Landing beach Man. Yeah,
so because it's the spot where everybody goes to visits. Yeah,
I guess so. But that being said, I'm curious now
for Los Angeles, Well, that goes to show you to
the ones on Sunset are killing it, like the medmen
on Sunset because of the novelty that it's med men.
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That one's the biggest one in Vegas. The uh the
Planet thirteen in Vegas just really pulls it. I mean,
that's one supplying the Santa Ana one. Who can the
emergence of lounges. I don't know if you guys are
on that game yet. The cannabis lounges. Those are starting
to pop up in California. We work with Elevations Nations.
They got the cannabis friendly hotels too as well, so
tying into tourism. Um, I think, yeah, that's the lounge aspect.
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Two of it is, are there lounges that you're seeing
pop up in in Manhattan? Like the illegal legal whatever?
They have to be all illegal, But I mean do
they have them there now? Is that like they do?
Of course, there's nothing legal there about it? Is that?
What the well it's legal to sit up and smoke.
I mean, if it's that's my point, ass you don't
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get it there. As long as I don't get it
at the lounge, I can come to the lounge. But
I keep in mind in the city, the city specifically,
there is a no smoking rule. So if you have people,
what do you mean in Manhattan, the city that the
city of the city. Yeah, the boroughs as well. Yeah,
there there's no smoking rule cigarettes like indoors. I mean
that's when you started going legal that they do that.
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Orange County too as well. It's like, oh, yeah, cannabis
is legal, but I'm saying cigarettes cigar as you can't
ban it all just and I want to say, have
cigar lounges. So in order to do that, you have
to have like there's very specific rules about like air
you have like rooms for example, Like you walk into
that room, for example, and you can smoke there, but
as you're walking through here, you can't something like that.
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You know, so you can't. It's you the storefront. You
can't smoke at the storefront, cannot You can go to
the lounge next door, but you have to buy product
from the lounge. You can't take what you got from
the storefront into the lounge and consume. You have everything
you consume. These are draft racks, like like these REGs
are not out yet, but yeah, like that that's the
thinking that they don't want you to cross different business verticals,
which I think is gonna make it hard, right, Like
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like who does that. You know, I'm telling the colleague
of ours. It's like when you when you used to
go to your buddy's house back in the day, you know,
pick up and then he gives you a dab and
you go home Like I just took a dab. I
don't even need to touch this. Yeah, I mean, who's
gonna tell me, hey, I'm patting you down. I'm gonna
take that joint out your pocket. I don't get back
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to a restaurant the restaurant style. It's if if I
if I let's say I go to Albertson's and I
buy myself a turkey. I'm not gonna go to you know,
Sizzler or Mastros everything in between and bust out this turkey.
I need to buy a turkey from the restaurant. Imagine.
I've had people try to do it. I've had people bringing,
oh yeah, let me get well. You know, I've gone
to movies and taking my own candy in there. You know,
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I'm actually ordered food at the club. Like I'm in
the club and v I P and I'm like, you
ain't gonna food bring my food to the door, and
I'm an order what I want, Like I can't bring
and then you walk out and get it and bring
it back in the they're gonna bring it to me.
I gotta tell you, our strip clubs have something that
that steakhouses. But yes, really, and I don't know, got
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a nice snapper too. Are you inviting us? You know,
the Gold Club in San Francisco used to go the
best wings, the best tacos. And it's not even like
the strip club I have. I've had finance tech people
tell me that we go there on our lunch breaks.
I don't know whether it's you know, sanitary. I'm sure
it's fine. You know that's non sanitary. I mean, as
long as they keep the spoons away. Friends breaking. Yeah,
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I met a girl at the Gold Club that ruined
my relationship once. Man, this girl spent four days there.
My girlfriend was in Mexico. You know, it's a dirt
back back then. Yeah, I think she did it. I
think you did it. Yeah, the Gold Club and Sapphire
and man, it's oh god, I'll just when you said
the Gold Club, my heart just druck legendary. And I'm
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sure you know the one, and what's the one on Broadway?
The come on, you know, you just don't want to say,
oh my own legendary Oh Farrell Theater, Oh Farrell Theater,
Mitchell Mitchell brothers. Yes. Oh they had the flashlight room
the whole night. I had another one from there. I
pulled one day. Oh god, there's no sex in the
champagne room, no matter what they say, she pulled you, Joe.
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You know, back then it was all about the dog.
I had purple hair, silver front to you know what
I mean. I was just the big radio guy. Yea,
we will get into power exchange. But yeah, going back
to Yeah, so its lounges. I think it's a great
I think it's going to be a great business from
New But are there how many like right now, Peter
in your head? Do you really know of like, Okay,
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we can go to this lounge, like if you were
calling some of your boys to go smoke in New
York right now? Is there literally spots where you can
go to? Yeah, three or four well known ones. One
just gotta shut down recently, you know, there is so there.
They are trying to shut them down, but they just
pop up and it happens. Oh, I mean they're not
just trying, they're doing it that they are the like
raised boom boom room. Are they like running in with
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like the You ain't never seen that? What was that?
The Lightnie Murphy h tickets to the poorest part of Queens.
I just had this exact moment just right there. I
love it, man, but no, I mean it happened down
the street over here in honey, you're looking for mega accommodation. Yeah.
So do they run in like with enforcement, colde enforcement
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and everybody in there gets tickets, even if you're just
a patron or. How does that work? Um? No, it's
usually about sweeping the products. They're not trying. They're not
trying to you know, cut them about it. What do
you mean sweeping the products? It's legal though, so how
did that? It's not license? Not license because they're selling
us there too. It's remember California back and then the
governor gets it from sweeping it up and then they
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go sell it legally with their potna and stuff. You know,
I see what you know. I didn't make that accus. No, no, no, no, no,
I definitely do we get a camera five on Golden Gold,
the one making an official right there, he's in New
York selling himself. Say, you know, Governor and yeah, I
forgot you, the governors, your boy okay, yeah, as you
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know all these people, Peter, is it like are you
trying to come up with solutions as well to like
are they asking you do you know of anything? Or
like is it usually too and you're you know, you're
helping out minorities that are trying to do it legally? Yeah? Yeah,
I mean they usually reject what I say, but do
they really I should say reject, But none of my
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ideas have ever been taking into effects. A lot of
know it alls in this business, you'll see. Well, Peter,
something we like to do with a lot of guests
that we have on the show is we'd like to
do the high five and like to get to know
about your cannabis use. So we're gonna do this with you,
and it's so you're gonna join me with and to
go with the two and the four. Okay, question number
one with you, Peter Sue from New York City. Green
Check Verified. You can check out his company. If you're
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and get hooked up, go to green Check Verified and
they'll make your official like a referee with a whistle.
How old. Are you the first time you smoked cannabis? Peter?
And where'd you get it from? I was twenty one.
It was actually the night of my birthday. My friends
are all sitting around, you know, sitting a circle, and
was passing the joint um. And prior to that, I
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would always I would chill, you know, I would pass,
but I didn't puff. And then one night, you know,
went around, I started puffing, kept passing it and I
want some one point here, somebody going is he is
he puffing? Yeah? This is your birthday? Were you all
drinking that night? Was your first time drinking that night? No? No,
because you drank before and then birthday you consume. That's interesting.
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So at least you smoked legally. Well, well, no, it
wasn't legal then. I'm sure. No, No, it was still igal.
I don't want to but yeah, it wasn't legal back then. No. Yeah,
well I was a nerdy kid. I didn't hang out
like like I was. I didn't do that. Well, and
you're a military kid as well, you know what I'm saying.
So that's that shows a lot I mean a lot
of military cats. Necessarily. The you know, theory is they
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weren't doing Were you in service when you were twenty one? No,
you weren't. Okay, it was were you in service before?
Or after? After? Right after that? Yeah? Oh dang? After school?
Did they ask you when you were going? Did you
ever smoke weed? Uh? You know, I don't think so,
I don't. I don't think they aspect then, don't tell
only that I was working canvas. Question number two of
the high five, what is your favorite way to use cannabis? Okay,
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so I'm gonna be, you know, totally honest, right. I
am not a regular user. I have lately been doing
more like the tinctures and and drinks and stuff like that.
But I'm not much of a smoker. So I don't
smoke at all. Brother, No, I don't smoke. I've been
sober twenty four years. I don't drink. I don't smoke weed,
don't smoke flour. I mean, when I was injured with injuries,
I used cannabis for medicine. But I don't smoke a joint.
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I have smoked a joint in over twenty four years. Actually, recently,
I was on this podcast and it almost felt like
it was like a setup. But I was like this.
It was like, Peter, Sue, you're the chair of this,
you know you're the vice chair of that, and uh,
you're write for rolling Stone Cannabis Culture Council. You know,
what's your how do you how do you smoke? What's
your favorite product? And I'm like, I don't you know
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what I mean? And guys like us, Peter, I'm an
advocate for it, Like I look at this plant as
strictly medicine but also leisure and pleasure. Knock the socks
off if that's what you want to do. But I
see the benefit of cannabis hands down, you know what
I mean, from the financial aspect of it to the
medical aspect of it. And I see from little kids
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benefiting from it to adults selling it benefiting from it
so well. I would say this from in my banking career, Um,
I've never heard anyone be more passionate. I've never heard
people say like, oh I love this, This saved my
life until I got into cannabis. People love it like
it's a culture. People like live it, you know. And
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there's so much anecdotal proof and evidence of that being
uh true, from military backgrounds PTSD to soccer mom coming
home and not drinking wine all night and you know,
having a calm down that way, our dad coming o
from work and not needing to drink a six pack
of beer or whatever just to you know, come come
and see everybody. It's like smoke a joint, take a hit,
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and well you think about this from a business perspective, right, Like,
so just the stuff that we know of, right, like
sleep management and pain management, let's say inflammation, but like
cbdor whatever. You know, these are all multibillion dollar industries
by itself, right, and and in in this product and
this plant it does it all, which is kind of crazy, right. Um,
(40:23):
somebody said this one, so I don't want to it's
I can't attribute. I don't remember we said it. But
they were like, you know, if we discovered this plant
somewhere and it wasn't called cannabis, right, we didn't know
what it was. We just discovered in a random valley somewhere,
we would be like, stop depressed that we need to
study this thing, the miracle plant. And as you say,
study it, it's still infant all of what it can do.
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It's like we don't have like all the other medicines
that we use, all the other plants on this planet
that we're talking about, and companies that are out there
usually utilizing these plants, they've exhausted every plant and folks,
that's what it has me so intrigued about the cannabis plant.
Is it They still don't know how much it can do.
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I mean the the jazz deal right with the epidoles
that that's a multibillion dollar deal. And that's one particular
CBD right, CBD heavy, that's the epidoles um. That's one
one cannabinoid exactly, and they still don't know how many
it casts the plants. And once you do this cannabinoid
with that cannabinated, it's making this and making that. It's crazy.
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Question number three of the High five with Peter Suit
Craziest place you ever use cannabis are smoked? Um, sorry,
I got a boring story. We would be No, I
don't have anything crazy. That circle with your friends when
it was, you know, that could be crazy or moving.
Twenty first birthday, that's definitely crazy. Man. I remember smoking
my first uh they called him dabs you know, extraly whatever.
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On my twenty one birthday was the first time ever dabbing.
That was not the dice you want to dab. Take
your first dab on your twenty first birthday. I've never
I had to spend my twenty first birthday in the
Buffalo wild Wings because there was a rolling black out
and southern California. I don't know if you guys remember
that two thousand and eleven, but yeah, that was mine.
So it's but I'm looking forward to the next time
I'm somewhere really crazy cannabist. We'll find something crazy coming up,
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don't worry about it. Question number four of the High five,
what is your go to Munchy's after you get high
or just in general? Well, unfortunately I don't have to
go to munchy then. Um, you know, I'm not much
of a munchy person. When you're when you're feeling kind
of eb I like, uh okay, I really like like
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fruity ship, you know, like like strawberry shortcake ice cream.
That's okay. What's the Ben and Jerry's not what they
got the famous for Ben and Jerry's one. I know
what you're talking about too, but he said Strawberry. I
went to that Strawberry Garcia. Yeah, I'm a fat kid boy,
don't let me pull out my fat card. What oh yeah,
(42:53):
Jerry Garcia three plus right here. I'm still got waistline here.
You know, I gotta tell you, guys of little ice creams,
a little fetish secret that I got going on this
past two weeks that I've been doing Goldie. I'm almost
ashamed to admit this on the mic, but don't you guys.
I've drank some beer and I'm gonna admitt it here.
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Root beer that is, and vanilla being ice cream. I've
done about that's a root beer float. Don't say six gallons.
Don't say it, okay when you say gallons for this.
I bought two gallons of vanilla bean. That was a
third gear. I've done three gallons. I got a fourth
gallon at the house right somebody call? He called, and
(43:40):
I bought you ready for this? The A and W
root Beer menis W root Minis. So I'm doing the
minis and I've done at least well, let me see,
I've already bought a the little thing. There's the eight pack.
It's not a twelve package because they're minis. And I
bought another one, so I'm two packs in. I haven't
finished this. I can one, but I finished the first
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pack already. We need Hey, let me tell you, guys
how cold it is. Though. When I was three hundred plus,
I used to sleep walk downstairs and make a root
beer float at three three in the morning. Just Fatty
mc daniels over here, would you make sure that you
buy it from a regulated license shop? Though I got
(44:22):
these ones from I had to go to um Walmart
because Walmart has the Mini A and W's. And this
is you guys, don't realize this. I haven't told nobody this.
This is like my secret. I do it at night too,
after I put the kids in the bed, like nobody
knows what I'm doing. I feel like right now, like
I feel relieved that I told somebody because I'm literally, well,
(44:45):
you guys know, I've been on this health kick for
a while right now, and this is didn't still look great.
And my point is that's my little crack habit right now,
you know what I mean, Like I'm I'm fetishing all
my being in moderation. Joe thing of my moderation. This
fool said he's on his fourth gallon this week, So no, no, no,
not this week, dog, I'm talking about I've been doing
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it for about I've been having two weeks now, No,
a little longer I've been I've been on at least
a month now, so so we've definitely discussed ship club
steak and root your floats just on this and you
for this. I got this cup that I use. It's
just about this big right and perfect side for the
little the rouper to fill it up, perfect side for
me to fill up the ice cream. And I'm sitting
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here getting ready to go to a doctor's appointment on Friday, going, Okay,
they gotta check my A one C and everything else.
I'm like, you know, I've been a diabetic. I shouldn't
be doing it at all. Yes, he's gonna order some
rub floats into the club next time along with his wing.
I'm a root beer float junkie, though, dog, it's like
my go to, Like I'm realizing that's my like habit.
They don't have to find you a natural way because
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root beer is only prune soda. We gotta make a
way to where you soda. You didn't know that, did
you know root beer is a prune? Or No, that's
Dr Pepper dark pepper? Is that what? I like that?
But my thing is the A and W. You know
what I'm saying. I like that. I like the A
W one. I think it might be a class whatever class,
(46:10):
but I think sparks sparks root beers. I think makes
so my wife see me doing it about you know,
a month. I've been on this kick for even before this,
it was my kick, like random kick. But right now
I'm on a junk. I've been buying an abundance. And
she went and got the healthy root beer, which is
(46:31):
like clear looking, you know what I'm saying. It just
comes from Whole Food. It was a regular grocery store,
but it's like this new kind of can, like sugar whatever. Dog.
I'm like, and I made and the cans are still
in the fridge, and I'm like, I want that A
and W. I don't want that. Question number five with
the High five with our guy Peter Sue from New
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York City Green Check Verified Peter, if you could smoke
cannabis with anyone dead or alive, who would be and why? Oh? Um,
I guess would have to be Snoop dogg Yo. Why
so that's just because I want to go for it,
you know what I mean? Like I hear he does
like like seven bloods a day or something like that.
I'm sure if I'm a personal blood roller. His son
(47:16):
was actually just here last week, Julian. Yeah, great guy.
He's got this brain called stuff. Cannabis. They make amazing.
Some are infused, some are nonfused. But it's a great project.
Who's his personal you know, I don't think. I don't know.
But she got a raised not too long ago too. Yeah,
I'm sure he did a raise in a healthcare place.
That's what I want. I want, I want like that.
I want that treating, you know, right. Snoop Dogg always
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gets so many people. I mean, he's one of those
you know. I've been in a room when he handed
me a joint. After the movie The Wash came out
and it was me, Snoop dog Dr Dre and Bishop
Don Magic wand we're in a hotel in Beverly Hills
and it was the press junkhit for that movie, and
we're all upstairs. It was really cool because we were
downstairs at first and they go, Joe, this is do
(48:01):
the interview up there because we want to smoke. Because
they did a bunch of interviews, and then by the
time they got to me. They just wanted me to
come upstairs because I worked at Power one of six,
the big hip hop station out here in l A.
And we went up there and hung out and me
being Mr Sober repassing me the bland smelted and passed
it along. Man, it was great. So this is gonna
sound a little weird, but I think of Snoop Dogg
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as like kind of like Lego. Like so if you
think about Lego when we were much younger, right, like,
it was kind of a boring business, right, So the
Lego of our of our childhood is a completely different
company than Lego is today. You talked about building blocks
versus what it's whatever looks like today, right, But fundamentally
the product hasn't changed. There's still just a little pieces
(48:43):
of plastic, right So, so in other words, they've been
able to morph their business model without actually changing their business.
Snoop Dogg, it's the same Snoop Dogg, but his his
business model is completely different right now, Like he was
n w A. Now he's he's family friendly. He's doing
ship with like what they stew it right, Yeah, yeah,
(49:03):
that's right, he's not he did you know what he
called himself snoop line that one. Well, I mean and
he's and now he owns death Row. Yes, so he's
still the same there, right. I actually start last Thursday here,
I had a clear from chapter two agency. Bring you
some death Row cannabis. How is it tasted great? I
would hope so. I mean their death Row beer was
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the reason we all start smoking weed, pretty much. Let's say,
let's let's be real. I mean, I don't know, I
go back to the double dutch bus. Dog. Let me
tell your sugar Hill game. You mean that's me when
I'm smoking, you know, I mean the double dutch bus
coming down the street, moving pretty fash. You better shuckle
yo bus, trail your hair and cut the driver is
(49:48):
gonna take you to a double dust affair. Come on,
get on, double Dutch bus, the double Dutch Bus, Peter Sue.
It's great to have you here and to contribute to
New York cannabis. How long before you think they really
shut down the black market? There? Is it gonna be
like California and just strive forever because we've been legal
(50:11):
now for since two thousand and sixteen. If I'm not mistaken,
and you know, take down the seventeen and the black
market is still pretty strong here. Uh do you see
it being the same in New York or do you
think these politicians and the police are going to shut
it down and try to make it right for the
people that are trying to open it up legally. Um,
(50:34):
you know, it's a good question. I I don't know
that they'll ever, you know, shut it down right, like eradicated,
what if the turn is you know? Um? You know?
Does she to Dawson who who runs who's the cannabis
are from New York City? She has she has a
great way of putting it. She said, it's really about
the consumers, right, get the consumers and that the market
will will take care of itself. Um. And and I
(50:56):
love the way she she views it. So yes, I
think we have good leaders that that really are focused
on it. Um. I hope the plan works. And I
think those consumers are like what we used to call
out here when the first one legal it's designer designer cannabis,
designer weed, where it's like you had those big brands
saying like, oh, it's you know, forty percent, it's this
isn't that? So I think those consumers will be into
(51:17):
that first. But what I mean people like me, it's like,
I don't need THHC we you know, cannabis, you know,
give me a good tent. I'll throw a little back
when they're and I'm good, Goldie, what's you laughing at?
I don't want that that strong either. No, I agree
with you for what It makes me think of a
girl that we had on here with her and her
pops from Humble. Yeah. What I'm saying like Halle yeah,
(51:39):
good good memories. Yeah, Halley was like, you know, when
I'm smoking to joint all day, I don't want a big,
strong one in the middle of the day for lunch.
I want a nice little common too. Because you can't.
You can't just get rid of the high. I mean
you can't. Actually, there's another company I'm gonna talk about
actually later on. We'll talk about that later. Really Milk,
I mean the old milk Boy company. High be gone
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and into spray to spray to your tongue just like
an take shirt and it can snap you out of it.
That's called meth. That's called crank or yes, I mean yeah,
I mean I used to do that when I was
too drunk. I'm gonna I'm off, Okay, Okay, I'm not drunk. Mark, Hey,
give me another miror it's Cannabis Talk one on one. Peter,
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